1 00:00:06,300 --> 00:00:09,000 Welcome back to another episode of The Chronicle and podcast as 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,500 we go forward without interviews. 3 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:15,000 We have a special one here. We yogin from Sweden. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,800 You might remember you're going from our I'll be book reviews 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,400 and that kind of thing now on the playlist called podcast. 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,800 But I thought I'd just take your gun away for a little bit. 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,100 Just have a sit down and chat with him and just talk about his 8 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:34,500 origin stories. How you got into the Hobby in a 9 00:00:34,508 --> 00:00:35,900 little bit about his torment history. 10 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:41,400 He played a lot of Tom has extensively in Sweden, there and 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,600 even after fit addition with other other various editions 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,800 later. So yeah, we're really good time 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,100 to sit down and chat to some bit of hobby together, and so, hope 14 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:51,800 you hope you guys enjoy this interview. 15 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:53,400 Okay. We'll catch you on the other 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:59,500 side. Okay, so welcome back. 17 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:03,000 Everybody to the chronicle. Now podcast this time I'm joined 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,300 with jörgen, hey, you're going to Hawaii of it. 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,300 Hey, I'm fine. Thank you. 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,600 That's good. I'm really glad that you. 21 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:13,600 You could take the time to come and talk to me this evening, 22 00:01:13,900 --> 00:01:17,400 because as many people would know their heard your voice 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,800 before when you did some collaborations with Joe and 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,900 Caspar. The only books in that kind of 25 00:01:25,900 --> 00:01:28,800 thing, but yeah, I really wanted to get you on this personally 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,400 just so that we can learn a bit more about you and your history 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,900 and how you got in the Hobby and that kind of thing. 28 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:37,600 So I'm going to let you go, you're going, we're going to do 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,700 some hobby time guys. Like we're just going to do that 30 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:41,600 with some painting and that kind of thing in the background. 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,900 But yeah, you can you just you just talk about how you got into 32 00:01:44,900 --> 00:01:48,300 the hobby made and what got you into fancy battles? 33 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:51,000 And that kind of thing? Yeah, sure. 34 00:01:52,500 --> 00:01:57,900 I really got into foul. Fantasy back in the early 90s 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:04,600 because of my father, he introduced me to Fantasy by the 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:11,100 Lord of the Rings. Yeah he and I were reading them 37 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:17,200 together when he was trying to make my English better and after 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:23,400 a while, we had just moved to a new town and I got Brands and 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,600 one of those Once had a big brother and they had just bought 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:36,200 the fourth edition starter back in 93 and the one with elves and 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:42,400 higher High Elves. And the goblins and well I was 42 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,400 really fascinated when I saw it on his shelf. 43 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:54,800 So I asked him about what it was and he told me it was a War game 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,300 and you were fighting with Elson goblins and I was like wow 45 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:07,100 that's like Lord of the Rings. He he didn't ask me if I wanted 46 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:10,800 to try it out and I couldn't say no. 47 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:20,500 So, I was given the goblins and he had High Elves and let's just 48 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:24,400 say that I probably lost already in the second turn or something 49 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:32,300 like that, but I was hooked. So I asked him if there were 50 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:37,300 other races and stuff like that and he showed me some kind of 51 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:44,600 add our biggest. I think it was Or six pages as 52 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,500 an ad. And in there I saw the picture 53 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:56,400 of the 4th edition box subset for chaos and I was like, wow, 54 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,000 that is really cool. What is that? 55 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:07,100 And he told me about chaos and that picture alone had me hooked 56 00:04:08,100 --> 00:04:17,700 So I asked my father to take me to the town the next day and I 57 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,899 bought some baseman and some carrots Warriors. 58 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:28,800 The monopoles ones from early fourth edition and some paints. 59 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,300 And then I went home and started painting. 60 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,500 I wasn't really new to painting because me and my father had 61 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:42,500 been That building models like a cars and stuff. 62 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:50,400 So this was just something that took two interest into one so 63 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,100 that's where it started. Noise by that's awesome. 64 00:04:56,100 --> 00:05:00,000 And and so so called have your father, introduce you into 65 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,300 fantasy and Lord of the Rings and that kind of thing. 66 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:07,200 I think my father would be really happy if I just got out 67 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,600 of the whole thing altogether, I think he said to me that if I 68 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,200 spent as much time working on models and painting and in my 69 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,000 hobby, as I did with my school work, I would be in a genius by 70 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,900 now. So so it's nice to hear that 71 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,700 apparent. Like some other people. 72 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:26,100 I know that got them into the Be, it's really, really nice to 73 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:31,100 hear. So he probably need didn't think 74 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:33,600 I would get death caught up in that. 75 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,200 Yeah. But little did he know that? 76 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,500 Yeah, you, you know, all these years later, you be still 77 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:42,700 talking about it and still reminiscing about all those 78 00:05:42,700 --> 00:05:47,400 times of encountering that first, you know, the cows box 79 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,200 set, and falling love with chaos and like, kind of stuff in 80 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,800 collecting an army. Yeah, we actually got to listen 81 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,600 to see your Army on the Chronic event podcast Community page. 82 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,200 And yeah, I was really, really quite struck at how beautifully 83 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,200 painted it was made. So like I said, you're a bit of 84 00:06:06,207 --> 00:06:09,300 an avid painter and toddler before you even got into the 85 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:14,800 hobby, is that right? Yeah, I had tried it out a bit. 86 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:20,200 I'm, I wouldn't say Avid but we had built some models and I had 87 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:27,100 painted like, cars and Military stuff and such things. 88 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:31,400 Cool. Okay, I got into the same way. 89 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,500 I got invited to Mia model kits and that kind of thing when I 90 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:41,000 was, you know, 14 15 and then ya got into the through the 91 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,900 Miniatures, through here. Request, did he request ever 92 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:48,400 come into your hobby hobby house at all with you and your father 93 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,800 at all at some point. And well, nothing to my own 94 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,800 house, but of course, there were friends that had it. 95 00:06:56,900 --> 00:07:02,800 So, Made it a couple of times, but I never really got here, 96 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,100 request myself and many years later. 97 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:11,600 I kind of regretted it little bit. 98 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:19,900 I wanted a board game and forth that Warhammer Quest was selling 99 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:24,900 for a bit too much. So I actually got into dungeon 100 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:29,400 Saga from antique and have a play quite It a bit with some 101 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,100 friends little bit like role playing. 102 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:38,000 So I'm the GM and there the adventures. 103 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,600 Yeah, yeah. I think that I think I've never 104 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,500 played that the dungeons like but I know it's like an evolved 105 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,300 version of he request. Basically it's like a distant 106 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:50,900 modern version of it. Very, very similar. 107 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,700 Yeah. Okay, that's cool. 108 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,500 So was so the cows Army was at the first Army. 109 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:03,000 You have you ever really sort of got into apart from the Goblins 110 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,200 that you played and dabbled with in the starter set. 111 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,100 So it was chaos like the first first love for you. 112 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,300 Yeah, definitely. When I got that box I mean it 113 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:19,400 was a huge box compared to the other Army books and I didn't 114 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,900 really know why first but it has Lots of cards and stuff but I 115 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:30,100 was flipping through the pages and I just loved everything. 116 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:37,400 I read about it and I am I really have been a fan of the 117 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,400 way. They had chaos back in the 90s 118 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:47,500 and even earlier, when I read that later on the 80s, the realm 119 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:53,700 of chaos books, The Big Red One from I think 87 and a green one 120 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:58,600 from 91. And yeah, I've I've collected 121 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,700 many armies over the years, but chaos has always been in my main 122 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:12,900 Army and the one I fall back to and always build upon and as for 123 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:18,900 the Army I showed on the podcast community and Facebook pages it 124 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:26,600 was actually A very small army compared to what I have but it's 125 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:31,700 an army built out. I love Nice by. 126 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:34,800 Did you but you'd actually painted army back in the 90s? 127 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:41,500 No, no, no, that are me. I put up and was a project. 128 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:52,500 I started in 2016. I just had my first kid and like 129 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:57,800 everybody else, I thought it was going to be like having a long 130 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,000 vacation to be home with the kid. 131 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:08,000 I was so wrong but the idea was to build the Army and painted. 132 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,900 While the kid was, it didn't go all too well and yeah, as you 133 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:18,500 see I'm I wasn't done until a couple of weeks ago. 134 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,400 Cool. I got this is I just didn't I 135 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,200 didn't read that part. Sorry, I just thought I just 136 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:25,800 thought. Wow, if your guys playing this 137 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:30,200 like when he was like in the 90s this would have been voted best. 138 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,600 Paid that Army for sure. Like every single toilet you 139 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,900 ever went to It getting on some type of thing because that's 140 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:41,400 what you're sort of really brought on for with Joe and 141 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,200 Caspar was that your Tom experience is quite extensive, 142 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,300 would you like to sort of go into your tournament experience 143 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:50,700 and how you got into playing tournaments there? 144 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:58,600 Yeah, sure it was like this. That back in the late 90s we had 145 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:06,000 a couple of local stores which were Going to promote themselves 146 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:12,600 by having tournaments. And it was I think around 97 or 147 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:19,200 98 and well I just wanted to play with other people. 148 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,200 Try it out and I got into my first tournament. 149 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:32,100 I got trashed by lizard-men. The first game I got a loss 150 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:38,400 against Hiles. My second game, I got a loss. 151 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:44,000 My third game versus demons of chaos, which had just been 152 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,100 released in the realm of chaos book. 153 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:54,400 So you could pure demon Army. And then in my final game, I 154 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,900 actually met the highest player who had built his army, pretty 155 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:04,600 much on what models he had just like me and we had a great time 156 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:08,200 and in the end, I won my first game. 157 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,200 I had been trashed, despite having a great winning record 158 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:20,400 amongst my own gaming group, barely ever lost with the chaos 159 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,200 or me, I played. But when I got to that 160 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,000 tournament, I got trashed, but it motivated me. 161 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,700 And I learned a lot, especially against the lizard-men player 162 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:36,300 whom told me about the flail of skulls and Jade amulet and not 163 00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:43,200 bringing Save 100-point items and stuff like that and it black 164 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:49,500 jammed, my chaos lord, well he had all the nasty things in his 165 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:56,400 sleep and well I learned a lot and I don't know why but 166 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,600 whenever I get into something I really get into it. 167 00:13:02,300 --> 00:13:06,000 So I decided that I would play more tournaments. 168 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:15,000 I would start winning games. and I think I played around 25 169 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,900 tournaments per year in that time and the best result was 170 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:24,100 probably 99, just before six Division and I joined the 171 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:29,900 Swedish natural Nationals and there came a top eight placement 172 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:36,700 Yeah, cuz Sweden has like a reputation for hosting massive 173 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:40,500 Wonder events, isn't it? Like, from what I, what I hear 174 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:43,200 anyway, from from the time of 6 Edition and that kind of thing. 175 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,400 It was like a, it was like the, you know, the place to be at 176 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:52,400 when you wanted to run all attendees National tournaments 177 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,400 for hammer. Yeah, the tournaments were big. 178 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:03,500 I think most term would drawing around 60, 70 people when it was 179 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:06,900 the Nationals. And even the small local ones we 180 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:15,800 had like 24 to 30 players was a huge game, especially during 6th 181 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:22,500 edition as you mention the. But even later on 7th and 8th, 182 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,500 there were the Swedish company over. 183 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:29,000 Right. Last night. 184 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,500 Cool. Well, I'm glad you got your 185 00:14:31,508 --> 00:14:34,400 first win and then that sort of that sort, of course, you know, 186 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:39,500 we continue this tournament scene and and it's good. 187 00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:41,100 I think Tony was have do have its place. 188 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:44,300 I mean, some people maybe don't particularly like tournaments 189 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:47,400 because of the nature of the torment but I met a lot of great 190 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,100 people and I made a lot of good friends. 191 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:53,800 Through tournaments two people, I would have never met any other 192 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,500 like normally I don't think and just by chance just met up with 193 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:01,300 them and Out and stayed friends with them for a very long time 194 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,900 and game with them exclusively for a long time too. 195 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:07,000 So yeah, it's one of us do bring that. 196 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Yeah. Sense of like, you know a lot of 197 00:15:09,008 --> 00:15:12,400 people coming together, you get a lot of experience playing 198 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,800 different armies and seeing what they're sort of, you know, 199 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:18,300 they're Loadout is for what they're taking. 200 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,900 So, yeah, it does bring a lot of value to your game, doesn't it 201 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,800 paint ornaments a lot? Yeah, not only do become a 202 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,900 better player. You, as you mention, you get a 203 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:34,100 lot of friends. I had a lot of new friends back 204 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:38,500 in the late 90s and early 2000s that I would never have played 205 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:39,600 with. If it wasn't for the 206 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,700 tournaments, we met through tournaments and we just 207 00:15:43,700 --> 00:15:49,800 continued playing afterwards and hook up and trying out different 208 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,000 lists and sometimes just playing narrative games. 209 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,600 Nowadays, nowadays, I don't attend many tournaments. 210 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,400 I was One last year, and that's what's in a tradition. 211 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,700 Otherwise, I just want to meet people and play with them and 212 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,200 have fun. I don't care as much about 213 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,900 winning or losing nowadays, but I won't fold if you know what I 214 00:16:17,908 --> 00:16:19,700 mean. I know, it's me. 215 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:24,100 Yeah, I'll do all that man. I'll do the folding on those 216 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:28,000 occasions. Yeah, unless I've got pretty. 217 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:30,500 Lucky though, you like the last we talked about playing Joe and 218 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:32,600 Caspar? Yeah, so that opens my eyes and 219 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,700 playing other people to from different countries. 220 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:39,800 It's sort of it's broadened my perspective on, you know, how 221 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,600 they how they run armies. And what they, what their 222 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,800 philosophy is on taking armies and units of that kind of thing. 223 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,800 It's quite interesting now that we're sort of started the 224 00:16:48,808 --> 00:16:54,600 podcast, it's sort of broadening our scope and range of people 225 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,100 from different matters and that kind of thing and what they 226 00:16:57,100 --> 00:17:00,900 value and what they - and, you know, take it, or leave it kind 227 00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:04,500 of thing and it's quite interesting. 228 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,900 So, yeah, getting getting a lot of that playing experience, 229 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:10,700 which I must admit. I didn't really have during the 230 00:17:10,708 --> 00:17:13,300 day because it was it always busy painting my armies. 231 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:16,700 So we didn't really end you know based on where I am in the 232 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:19,500 world. It wasn't such a big huge Gaming 233 00:17:19,500 --> 00:17:25,900 Community anyway, so But yeah, it's it's always good to play 234 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:30,100 different people. And Yeah you sort of always come 235 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:33,700 away with something new or some way to look at something 236 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:43,400 differently every time you play. So let's talk about chaos. 237 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:49,100 What would be your your preferred fifth edition kind of 238 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:51,700 build these days? What would you take? 239 00:17:53,900 --> 00:18:00,400 Well, I am I really like everything about chaos but I 240 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:05,300 prefer The Mortals, it's something about this. 241 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:12,700 Unseen horror, you know they're looking very bad ass and you 242 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:15,100 don't know what's under that helmet. 243 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:21,000 Unknown horror as they talked about in that why Friday the 244 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,900 13th got so big as well with Jason and his hockey mask. 245 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:27,900 Don't really know what's under there. 246 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,100 I like that. And I think some of the Great's 247 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:37,700 models Games Workshop has ever released, are the chaos Mortals, 248 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:42,400 various versions of Celtic warriors and Chaos nights. 249 00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:48,400 So, if I'm when I'm playing nowadays, I always try to 250 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,300 include chaos Warriors, and Chaos nights, even even if they 251 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:56,100 might not be the best option versus that. 252 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:02,500 Opponent. And I've been I don't care as 253 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:07,900 much about getting the best Bill, but rather care more about 254 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:13,000 having the best looking models, which, which brings me to one 255 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:20,200 problem the harpies. Yes, there's some ugly bitches 256 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:27,100 but they are. I mean, stat-wise. 257 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,900 In the entire game. And that's one exception I've 258 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:37,600 made. I don't like taking them, but I 259 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,900 know that if I'm having a small Elite army with Warriors and 260 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:45,900 nights, I need to stop at least one war machine from mauling 261 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:49,200 them. So, the big question is, did you 262 00:19:49,208 --> 00:19:51,700 guy would just go with the happy with the big boobs or to go to 263 00:19:51,708 --> 00:19:55,200 the Harvest of the clause? Which one I go with the claw 264 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:03,000 ones because that's the That's the ones I was raised with no, I 265 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,700 wanted to but I've been looking at those I've even been looking 266 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:10,800 at the sum of The Foundry harpies because they're quite 267 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,500 decent at Alternatives. Oh yeah, cool. 268 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:16,900 Okay, I haven't seen those actually. 269 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:19,700 I need to go and check them out. Yeah, they look a lot like the 270 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:22,400 80s harpies. Cool. 271 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,200 Okay. That's good to know, right? 272 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,900 Thanks a lot. Yeah, I'm the same. 273 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:30,400 I'm in the same boat like, you know, the harpies like, you 274 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,700 know, they look awful either way. 275 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:38,200 I don't, yeah, I haven't really seen like good examples apart 276 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:44,500 from everyone, I think. One of one of the guys on the 277 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,800 Community page or on the hero have a page posted up some unit 278 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,200 of harpies looks quite decent but they're the ones who are 279 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,000 sort of either half naked bodies. 280 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:58,300 And yeah I quite like the old aesthetic tissue chaos to the 281 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,200 old aesthetic. I really like more. 282 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,400 Like the Third Edition. Look to the models, had more 283 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,900 character Yeah to them as well. Yeah. 284 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,800 Now we talked about maybe I think before as well because we 285 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,400 do that cash review and and I played, I played a game recently 286 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:19,300 with Casper using the fourth edition box set that you talked 287 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:22,100 about before it was your first little love into chaos. 288 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,300 Yeah. Is it you or is it still your 289 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:28,400 preferred rule set for or your army book for building your 290 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,300 cows? Armies with addition or fourth 291 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:33,500 edition or is it the fifth edition? 292 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,300 Well Actually do a mix. That's the good thing about 293 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:42,300 having old rules. That's you can ask your 294 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,200 opponent's if some things are, okay. 295 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:50,400 So we like the war band style of the fifth edition book better. 296 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:57,800 It's a bit harder to abuse. But having said that we did 297 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:03,700 allow, if you take a license, you can take demon allies and 298 00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:08,200 basement allies for Example in a mortal Army without needing to 299 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,800 have a warlord for those as well. 300 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,200 So that means I can bring 25% demons and or 25% basement or 301 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:22,200 something like that. So it's it's a mix. 302 00:22:22,900 --> 00:22:27,400 It's mainly with the fifth edition rules but with some 303 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:33,300 fourth edition added in and I prefer the fifth edition chaos 304 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:37,800 rewards because I think the fourth edition are actually too 305 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,700 good. Autumn about that might because 306 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:44,300 of the last game I played was the first kind of like cause I 307 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:46,100 thought that I'll get the doc boxset here. 308 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:49,900 Now the first going to play I had I don't think I've ever I 309 00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:53,000 drew about four or five cars or six cards or whatever. 310 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:58,500 Then I got one car that says lose all your cards and Gifts 311 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:01,600 immediately. And the other one was to turn 312 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,600 one of my guys into a cow spawn. So, Yeah, I didn't I didn't have 313 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,300 the best best of luck in the first first game using chaos 314 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:12,800 after all these years. But yeah, I do love the fourth 315 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,000 edition said because of the chaos gifts, I love that, I 316 00:23:17,008 --> 00:23:18,500 love. Just love that mechanic in the 317 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,600 game that gives you sort of. It's almost like free magic 318 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,500 magic items basically. Yeah. 319 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:26,900 It's good. It's very good and it's a it's 320 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:29,400 cool. But what I don't to get really 321 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,200 is. Why does he just have 322 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,100 regeneration for one Turtle? Why does he only have Horns for 323 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:40,500 one turn. I mean I get white just one turn 324 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:43,800 because it's would be even more powerful otherwise. 325 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:50,000 But it kinds of strange for me. But it's the same with the fifth 326 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000 edition. You have a mutations there as 327 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,700 well but you roll one mutation for the entire unit, then why 328 00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:59,200 would all of them have the same mutation? 329 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,100 Yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah, that's it's a nice little 330 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:06,500 mechanic that through in there. I really like cards, I like 331 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,800 cards and games. Basically, now fourth edition 332 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,200 does have the gifts as well. What's the main difference 333 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:19,300 between the two? Well, the rewards are or the 334 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:23,400 gifts are different, of course, because in fourth Division, I 335 00:24:23,408 --> 00:24:25,500 think you draw to each turn, right? 336 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:27,200 Yeah. Yeah. 337 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:34,900 In 50 relation, there's a Deck with 12 gifts and you roll to D6 338 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,600 at the start of the game. When you draw that many cards, 339 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:45,400 and some have cards are played immediately, like Asians are 340 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,400 played at the start of the game and others are used in the game. 341 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:58,600 And it says, when lat, Takes his first leadership test or play 342 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,600 this when an opponent plays, a spell or something like that. 343 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:09,400 A little less powerful, but also a little less fun. 344 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,100 I can admit to that. Yeah, I think that's why I 345 00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,800 prefer the fourth edition. I'd like the fourth edition cast 346 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,100 because it has all those nice options that you have. 347 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:26,000 You can take a whole mix of beasties and the cows was, and 348 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,500 trolls and minotaurs and centaurs and you know, whole 349 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,700 wide range of different things and it's quite a bit. 350 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,500 Kind of like a mix of basically, what Third Edition cows was 351 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:41,200 like, I think is basically very thin to that. 352 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,400 And, you know, I'm a big fan of Chaos in Epic, the Space Marine 353 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,000 game as well and it's basically modeled exactly the same as 354 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,600 that. It's got, its got the count 355 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,600 gifts, if it's got the gift system as well. 356 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,400 So you got a little cars that you can give to and Hannity 357 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,800 booster units, and that kind of thing. 358 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,900 Plus, it's got a whole Motley Crew of all different kinds of 359 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:05,400 units that you can. Take overs, and that kind of 360 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,900 stuff. Yeah. 361 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,000 So I've always been I've always had a soft spot for the fourth 362 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,500 edition more than the fifth edition. 363 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:16,500 But I know that fifth edition is probably most preferred you know 364 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:22,700 calset to have now I suppose. So let's move on to modeling 365 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:26,800 like what what sort of hobby projects are you up to now at 366 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:34,900 the moment? well, about a year ago, I was in 367 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:41,100 a Challenge a painting. A painting challenge where I 368 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:47,500 started my first Elf Army. Yeah, I did a Wood Elf Army made 369 00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:54,100 for if 50 decision and I got to around 1200 points when 370 00:26:54,600 --> 00:27:01,900 everybody else quit so well. So I'm trying to finish this 371 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:05,900 Army up to 2,000 points, just like my chaos Army. 372 00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:10,500 I had done. After that, I'm in the crown of 373 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:17,600 command podcast painting challenge to do a small dwarf 374 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:23,200 Army using the fantasy Warriors towards by Nick. 375 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:31,600 Leland, it's free plastic monopoles versions one with 376 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,600 crossbow. One with great weapon and one 377 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,700 with spear and you can still get them from Um, em4 Miniatures, 378 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:44,000 very cheaply and the idea with this Army is to paint it. 379 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,400 For my son who is very much into my figures at the moment, okay. 380 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:59,000 So I was aiming to if I do this I will give him give it to him 381 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,400 as a birthday present when he turns five is excellent. 382 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,400 So these these plastic the plastic multi-part kits of it. 383 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:15,300 No monopulse. Just like the ones back in 384 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:19,900 fourth edition when Warhammer had their regiments. 385 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,000 Okay. Right. 386 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,600 I haven't actually heard of this, I'll look forward to 387 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,600 seeing pictures of these when you actually get them style. 388 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Start painting them or whatever because yeah, the kind of 389 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,200 command painting competition is very, very close to starting 390 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,000 now, isn't it? Yeah, I think it's one week away 391 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,600 or something like that. Yeah. 392 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,500 So that's a, that's excellent. I'm glad you're a part of that 393 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:47,500 site. I wasn't sure. 394 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:49,300 I was, I didn't actually know that you were actually 395 00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:53,700 participating in it so and I know I did you can do dwarves. 396 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:56,500 That's awesome. Yeah. 397 00:28:57,100 --> 00:29:00,600 And the only downside is, of course, it's only free poses. 398 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:08,000 So the entire Army will probably be slightly boring to watch just 399 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,100 the same models over and over again. 400 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:16,200 When I'm showing my progress, but I think it's great for a 401 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,600 five-year-old because they won't break and he can play with them 402 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,000 in any way he wants to. So I don't worry about them and 403 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,400 they're so cheap. I mean you can get 50 models I 404 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:34,600 think for $10 that's awesome. Yeah it's very good price. 405 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:40,300 So I had these lying around for ages because I actually got the 406 00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:43,600 game fantasy Warriors back in 95. 407 00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:51,800 When my father he bought it to me because he fought it was 408 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,100 warm. And yeah, back then I was a very 409 00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:01,900 disappointed. It wasn't one, but well, they've 410 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:05,900 been laying there in a box, and I have been painting the Orcs, 411 00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:10,500 which are in it and now I figured that. 412 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Well, my son is interested in an army and dwarves are a good race 413 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:22,100 to start with if he actually gets into gay me because, well, 414 00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,300 that's easy to play. Yeah, exactly. 415 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:26,400 Memphis. Right, that's good. 416 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,900 That's awesome. I'm really looking forward to 417 00:30:27,908 --> 00:30:30,400 that. That's Brian. 418 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,100 I don't know if I want to give I gave my son some Miniatures, but 419 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:39,400 they're all from the Super Dungeon explore there. 420 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,500 Like an undead kind of box set. I bought many years ago. 421 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:50,000 It's full of like skeletons and witches, and giant spiders and 422 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,100 stuff like that. So yeah, I don't think he, I 423 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:56,200 don't, he likes to me, I'll give him some other Miniatures to, 424 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,600 from the ice, The Song of Ice and Fire as well, but he broke 425 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,600 Some of the weapons and stuff often already. 426 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,500 So I'll need to glue them back on, so, but yeah. 427 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:10,300 My son takes a quite an avid interest in my Miniatures, and 428 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,000 he likes rolling the dice and that kind of stuff. 429 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,700 So, yeah, it's nice. It's nice that we're sort of 430 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,400 passing on our love of the Hobby and Miniatures and that kind of 431 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,000 thing to our our sons and that kind of thing or daughters or, 432 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,700 you know, whichever it might be. So that's right, man. 433 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,400 Nice one. So do you, do you still actively 434 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,300 play the hero Hammer gangs in your community? 435 00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:44,400 Yeah, I actually do it was kind of funny because I had one 436 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:50,100 opponent from back in the day and we continue playing when 437 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:55,100 edge of Sigma was released. We both quit for a while, tried 438 00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:59,900 out Kings of War but then we thought, nah, we had the most 439 00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:07,800 fun back in the 90s, you know, Nostalgia about it. 440 00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:11,600 But Yeah, we decided to play fifth edition again. 441 00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:19,600 So we played a couple of games and I started a Blog and put out 442 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,700 some names there and some of the Miniatures are painted in all of 443 00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:31,200 a sudden a person contact contacted me through the blog 444 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:37,300 and told me he was in the city next city like which likes? 445 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,500 I don't know. Maybe Free year pin miles away 446 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,400 and he asked me if I wanted to play with him and I was like, 447 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,300 yeah, sure why not? And so we got a couple of games 448 00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:56,400 together and then we try playing some games versus some Danes who 449 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:07,600 were arranging an old or event? And then maybe six months months 450 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:16,800 ago, I got contacted by another person via this log and he asked 451 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,600 me if he could join us and I was like yeah, sure. 452 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:26,900 And he had a broader as well. So those as well, I have only 453 00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:31,300 played a few times but I'm actually going to play them this 454 00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:36,500 Sunday. Freeway battle using 50 Vision 455 00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:41,900 rules but trying to combine it with the 8th Edition, Triumph 456 00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:50,900 and treachery set. So yeah, I'm still playing not 457 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:56,600 as much as I used to, but about Eight to ten games per year, 458 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,200 okay? That's still pretty good that 459 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,100 Mike. That's all right. 460 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,300 Yeah. Yeah, being a father to. 461 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,600 I'm quite happy actually get that time. 462 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,199 Exactly. Yeah, since I started doing this 463 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,100 remote gaming, I haven't played like this is the most amount of 464 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,699 games I've ever played in my life. 465 00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:16,500 Like, you know, I would never get this kind of opportunity to 466 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:19,000 play so many games are so many people. 467 00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:21,400 So it's been a bit of a blessing, really. 468 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,300 So we'll have to get you one, you can. 469 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:29,800 So you can teach me the ropes and he slammed me down in a in a 470 00:34:29,808 --> 00:34:32,900 game at some point if it's addition like Casper did Casper 471 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:35,900 destroyed me last game so I'm sure you do. 472 00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:39,400 Yeah, I like you too but I didn't see the ending. 473 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,400 It gets cut off or something. Fine, I didn't have it on time. 474 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,199 I had had it set up with the charge and everything but I 475 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:49,600 didn't turned on as one of those silly mistake it cut off right 476 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,199 at the end that basically Casper just Destroyed me. 477 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,100 And I think everything was, but pretty much running off the 478 00:34:57,107 --> 00:35:00,800 table by the end, except for my general, and he killed my 479 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,100 wizard. So yeah, it was pretty much game 480 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:08,200 over big time. So yeah, it was a good 481 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,800 experience of playing it person who's being like a real seasoned 482 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,600 veteran like yourself, that knows the ins and outs of 483 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,900 everything, especially through. I, I saw the list here. 484 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:31,100 I would never use on the elf wizard in a dwarf or me, but 485 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:36,200 it's good that he did because he wasn't, he was totally opposed 486 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,300 to doing the drafting at first and I said, come on yeah come 487 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:40,000 on. Yeah, Joe's. 488 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,900 Done it for so many times and everybody's doing it now so you 489 00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:44,800 know just do it once and it gets so he did it. 490 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,600 So I thought okay you want to take the allies and I thought, 491 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:53,700 okay, that's okay, no problem. So given that given that given 492 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,500 that Grace there to take the Allies, it's fine. 493 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,100 And you play the chaos ball entirely wrong as well. 494 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:04,200 I know you pointed out on YouTube channel night, so that's 495 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,000 good, cause I couldn't find a buddy rules for it. 496 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,000 I was looking for the rules for it in the book and I couldn't 497 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,600 find anything about it, but, you know, being me, unprepared 498 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,700 unprepared so, that's nothing unusual. 499 00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,800 I should have read the rulebook ins and out like, you know, 500 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,800 totally I knew that was going to cover but some point having 501 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,900 chaos born. At some point that you were 502 00:36:23,908 --> 00:36:30,300 saying, it's basically the profile of the like a regular 503 00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:33,000 human. Is it or the profile the model 504 00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:38,300 into spawn. So if you took a basement, 505 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:41,800 right? Yeah, so then you would take the 506 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,700 basement and you roll a D6 and apply that money. 507 00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:49,400 You draw that many gifts and applied to it and it actually 508 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,800 has those like for the rest of the game. 509 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,200 That's quite good. And yeah. 510 00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:57,700 And it moves Ted to D6 so that thing you did right? 511 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000 But you can't actually engage it in hand-to-hand combat. 512 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,200 Really? Yeah. 513 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,600 It's very specific about it just like yeah, goes through units 514 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,700 like the same A fanatic would do or something like that. 515 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,800 Okay, so it hits a unit. It does d 6, D, 6 string, five 516 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,700 hits. Is that right? 517 00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:23,200 Like a fanatic nice? It does the same amount of 518 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,600 attacks as the model house. So probably drawn some extra 519 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,700 text from the gift, right? And that you hit with the spawn, 520 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,700 like a normal and it just moves through the unit so they can't 521 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:40,700 actually hit back. Core engage. 522 00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:42,400 Wow. So they can actually physically 523 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,100 charge it because we just go. We can't eat the front of you 524 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,900 Casper. Used the fifth edition rules 525 00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:58,400 instead. Yeah, so yeah that's why I don't 526 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,500 think he knew what the fourth edition will rules were either 527 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:02,700 and he just needed a fifth edition one so that's fine. 528 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,600 Yeah, that's good. Okay, we got, we got through it 529 00:38:05,607 --> 00:38:08,300 in the end and now I know. So thanks very much for your 530 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:10,100 input. I really do appreciate Three 531 00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:14,300 back night because the I should have read the book in more 532 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:16,900 detail, but it was quite a quite of a weird night because we've 533 00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:21,300 got all the times mixed up. So what I thought was going to 534 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:25,100 be playing like 5 hours earlier or three hours earlier, it 535 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,600 wasn't the case. So here's a bit of a mix-up in 536 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,500 times and that kind of stuff. So But it became done and 537 00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:37,000 castles happy. And yeah, so that was the main 538 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,300 thing. But, you know, I'm still, I'm 539 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:46,200 still intend on playing fourth edition chaos, for now with that 540 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,600 we're now I've got Jesse's Army here and because I don't, she 541 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,800 have a causal Army, but I just enjoy having books to read 542 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,500 through like yourself, just look through the books with Nostalgia 543 00:38:57,500 --> 00:39:04,000 reasons and that kind of thing. Yeah, it's got a lot of really 544 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,600 great artwork. And if you like, you know, 545 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,900 Adrian Smith and really old hammer style artwork in there, 546 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:16,200 which I really love. And yeah, so I can just really 547 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,200 appreciate the artwork and that kind of stuff. 548 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,100 Okay so moving on. Okay, so you've got you've got 549 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,000 to be with Community there, you've got you see you mentioned 550 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,900 something about a Blog that you have? 551 00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:29,600 Can you tell us a bit more about the blog? 552 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,900 Well, it's not a huge blog with many followers. 553 00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:44,300 I have like 50 regular readers. It's not much but I try to I 554 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:50,100 started it back in the day when I was just about to start the 555 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:55,800 chaos Army I showed and I was reading a lot of old Hammer 556 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,200 blogs and taking inspiration from that and fought. 557 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,800 Yeah, I can do one. And yeah, it takes a bit of 558 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,500 time, but I have been able to update it about once per month 559 00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:12,900 for about four years now. Oh, cool. 560 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,400 I'm really Keen to be become a follower, so let us know what 561 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,500 the address is, right. And I'll put it in the show 562 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:23,900 notes and I want to check it out. 563 00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:29,200 Yeah, I'm curious because kind of hard to pronounce it in 564 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,000 English. I see. 565 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,300 Okay, right. Okay, it's it. 566 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:44,800 I have a in an old username from when I was starting on forums 567 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,400 and stuff back in the early 2000's, when forums were the big 568 00:40:50,400 --> 00:41:01,700 thing, and it's really a game short, for my name along with A 569 00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:04,300 rhyme which would then mean handsome. 570 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:11,200 So it's it's sneak fish but it would probably. 571 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,600 It would mean like handsome, Jurgen does, the wife is a wife 572 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,200 agree with this username. Yes. 573 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:26,600 Okay. Okay, that sounds good. 574 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,200 Okay. Well I'll drop it in the show 575 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,700 notes make for the podcast so people can go and check it out. 576 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:33,600 Just to see your nice nicely painted Miniatures in your 577 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,300 progress. On your chaos, only. 578 00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:38,700 So that'll be cool. Yeah. 579 00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:44,300 Now other any other games of the 90s that took you interest 580 00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:46,400 during that time or was it only just fantasy? 581 00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,800 No no I played for the K second edition as well. 582 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:56,300 Yeah, I had a chaos Army there as well. 583 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:58,900 Of course, I love the cows. I love the cows in second 584 00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:00,900 edition, man. Was brilliant. 585 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously we taking like with my 586 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,900 taking all these beasts, because I'd like a fantasy only then. 587 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:10,200 So, I like all these awesome metal beastmen and metal cows, 588 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,700 Warriors, and minotaurs, and trolls. 589 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:14,500 You can do everything. And second division was 590 00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:15,600 brilliant. I love it. 591 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,700 Yeah, it was great. I sold it off when first edition 592 00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:31,400 was released actually but yeah I also played a bit of blood bowl 593 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,500 back then. Yeah. 594 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:43,100 Chaos team and actually the start him I think it was like 595 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:47,400 yeah plastic human team which I just added on Olga and the star 596 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,900 player too. And we played a lot of old 597 00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:58,000 because yeah, it's much faster and then a game of Warhammer. 598 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:04,800 So it took interest out of a lot of friends who like the 599 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,600 Miniatures and stuff like that, but weren't really into playing 600 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,200 games of two free hours. Yeah. 601 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:18,600 So we hardship Global Community back in the late 90s as well. 602 00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:21,600 Yeah, that's that's again we really want to get back into as 603 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,200 well because I really have good memories of blood Bowl. 604 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,800 It's a great little game, quite little board game that you can 605 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:33,100 still enjoy the Warhammer wackiness of the 90s. 606 00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:35,700 Yeah, definitely. Because it just emphasizes that 607 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,700 immensely. I think in blood Bowl, it's got 608 00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:41,900 every single crazy Rule and every crazy, you know, element 609 00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:45,000 in those, those death zone cards at that kind of stuff. 610 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,100 I just love it. Yeah, such a great little game. 611 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,500 Yeah. Indeed I intend to teach my son 612 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:56,100 at one day. Yeah me too. 613 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,400 That's cool. Excellent. 614 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,400 I'm glad you're getting. You're getting your boy involved 615 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,200 in it. That's nice. 616 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:11,200 Yeah, yeah, I don't want to push it on to him, but when he says 617 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:17,000 showing interest by himself then I am gladly, what would you say 618 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,000 in English encouraging? Promote it. 619 00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:26,700 Yeah. Is the wife again with two main 620 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:32,200 or is she not into the hobby? She's not into a miniature 621 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:39,900 gaming, but we play other games, she played a bit of Magic. 622 00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:46,500 The Gathering with me fight, extensive for a while, as well. 623 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,100 You see, as I said, when I get into something, I get into it a 624 00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:56,700 bit too deep. Yeah, I had to power 9 and 625 00:44:56,700 --> 00:45:01,700 everything and we're playing tournaments and And yeah, I did 626 00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:07,200 well as to I was the reigning. A local Champion for two years 627 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,800 in a row in vintage, the type one with where it could have the 628 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,400 Black Lotus and everything. But then I started studying. 629 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,900 So I sold off a lot of it, but we still have a couple of decks 630 00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:25,300 left, which we play with every now and then. 631 00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:29,300 Okay? And yeah, we play other games as 632 00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,200 well. Well, such as old style. 633 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:40,800 Munchkin stuff like that. Munchkin. 634 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,900 Yeah. No, it's okay. 635 00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:45,500 Well, that's good, least. You got some bit of, you know, 636 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,100 family hobby time and gaming time. 637 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:54,600 That's good. Yeah, my wife into this, this 638 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,900 really really simple card game, but it's so good. 639 00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:02,700 It's it's based on the dungeon and Dragons license. 640 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,600 But it's just like a fun card pack where you got like, four 641 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,700 different characters and that basically, it's just like a PVP, 642 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:16,500 PVP type game where you kill the other other character using 643 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:19,500 cars. This is a card base game, it's 644 00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:23,000 really fun and it's your duty of is really really quick and it's 645 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,200 easy and fun to play that. I've got a lot of my students at 646 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:31,500 school playing it and my wife even enjoys playing it so it's 647 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:34,600 good to just have something. You know, it doesn't relate to 648 00:46:34,607 --> 00:46:38,000 Miniatures but something that you know you can involve your 649 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,500 other your better half into planning something as well. 650 00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:44,000 So that, you know, you know, you've got something that can 651 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,800 entertain them or get them involved in some something 652 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:53,200 somehow, Yeah. What's the game called? 653 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,600 A very good question. I think it's just escaped me 654 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,100 that. I think it's called I don't know 655 00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:01,500 what it's called actually now that's terrible. 656 00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:02,500 I've been planning it for so long. 657 00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:08,400 It's just terrible dungeon. Dungeon Mayhem, I think it's 658 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,000 called dungeon Mayhem. Yeah, I've got going into the 659 00:47:14,008 --> 00:47:18,000 atmosphere to it from in here in Japan and I was so. 660 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,300 So, you know, so impressed by thought I've got to grab this 661 00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:26,000 game and I think the kids will love it at school and, and sure 662 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,100 enough they did. So we played every week now and 663 00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:30,800 my wife's even really hooked on it now. 664 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,500 So, yeah, it's a really fun game. 665 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,700 It's really cheap to buy and you'll have, it's really quick 666 00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:39,300 to place. Oh yeah, I recommend that for 667 00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:42,300 your, your wife and your kids. Later on it because even even 668 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:44,000 young kids getting can get into it. 669 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,900 You can play it. And it's, yeah, it's good value. 670 00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:52,600 Yeah, that sounds great. New computer games at all that 671 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,100 you're into. And that's nowadays. 672 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:03,700 I don't play time. I used a lot back in the day. 673 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:09,200 I mean, I played the Warhammer, all the word, different 674 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,500 versions. I mean, shadow of the Hornet 675 00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:16,500 rat. Oh man, Mark of chaos and their 676 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,400 RPG as well, Warhammer online and 40K ones as well. 677 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:31,300 But Both the Warhammer Total War, which I think is a great 678 00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:35,100 game, but it takes up a lot of time. 679 00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:40,200 So I haven't really played through all the races, but they 680 00:48:40,207 --> 00:48:43,800 stay true to the Old Law, which I like, yeah, I've never played 681 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,500 that game. I would love to just have like 682 00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:51,400 an old rig setup. So I could play the old, like 683 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,300 Shadow the whole rat and dark. I win again. 684 00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:57,600 Nothing be quite happy to do that because it's part of the 685 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,900 nostalgic kick and he got sort of the old Hammer here. 686 00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:07,200 A Handler Vibes coming through those games that I can see. 687 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,900 Yeah I can see why the the the total war hammers really 688 00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:14,000 popular. Now with many people. 689 00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:19,500 Cool. Okay man. 690 00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:22,600 Now, I don't have time. I'd like yourself, I just don't 691 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,200 have time. I think the last game I got was 692 00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:28,400 Banner Saga. The trilogy, my PS4. 693 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:32,700 And I think the first day I got it, I started playing with my 694 00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:36,700 son grabbed the the case. And he wanted to take the art 695 00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:38,700 book as likable art book in it as well. 696 00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:40,700 And there's a disc in it and he wanted to grab it and I said, 697 00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:44,400 no, I don't grab it. And and he started crying and I 698 00:49:44,408 --> 00:49:46,600 thought, okay, well forget about I don't think I can play this 699 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,100 game. For now, just until they get a 700 00:49:49,107 --> 00:49:51,900 bit older and we can play it together, we can sit down and do 701 00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:55,200 it together. But it's sometimes we don't see 702 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,100 what I think. I downloaded the Lord of the 703 00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:01,400 Rings Lego game and my son was excited to try that with me. 704 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,600 So we try to play that together so I think eventually we'll get 705 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,300 to it. I think just one is a little bit 706 00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:09,400 older he's almost four years old now. 707 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,400 So yeah, I think another couple of years, he'll be able to play 708 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,700 georgiy, be able to teach me how to play games basically. 709 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,900 Lie on the PS4 and it doesn't worry me because I've got so 710 00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:22,200 many hot pot so much hobby stuff to do that. 711 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,400 I don't really have time to play games anymore. 712 00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:30,100 So but yeah, no it's good. It's another, another extension, 713 00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:33,500 to our sort of hobby time, basically playing games that 714 00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:35,000 kind of thing in the PS4 or whatever. 715 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,500 Cool. Okay, so I think what we'll have 716 00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:43,900 to do is get you on. If you, if you're willing to 717 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:50,400 give me a game, a remote game at some point we'll hammer and if 718 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,300 that's a possibility, what what, what faction would you like to 719 00:50:53,300 --> 00:51:00,000 play? Oh, I need. 720 00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:03,100 I would actually like, to try something new. 721 00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:10,300 You see, I played a lot of armies, but there's certain 722 00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:15,800 armies, which I just never got into, or didn't play a play 723 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,300 because maybe one of the friends were playing it and stuff like 724 00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:22,000 that. So I would like to try 725 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,000 something. I wouldn't be Used to and just 726 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,100 to see how they play and stuff. Well, what I'm is. 727 00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:35,200 Haven't you played before? Well, as I told you, I just 728 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,000 started my first Elf Army last year so I haven't played. 729 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,300 I haven't really played with any of those. 730 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,500 Not even my videos, I've tried them once and I have never 731 00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:50,400 played with high heels and I have never played with dark 732 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,300 elves. I just weren't two elves. 733 00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,400 I were more of the yeah. Then I wanted the bad guys. 734 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,300 I played I played on Played chaos. 735 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:10,000 I played the I even had a small case War for me, but with the 736 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,800 Third Edition models, because I wasn't a big fan of the big hat 737 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:21,400 era. So and I have played Empire. 738 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:28,700 I've played Brito. Nia I feel I have never played 739 00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:32,800 lizard-men actually, I have tried a couple of games but I 740 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:38,100 just thought they were so cheesy and easy mode to play, so I have 741 00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:44,000 actually never yeah. Yeah. 742 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,200 But that I think that depends on the bill of course, but if you 743 00:52:48,207 --> 00:52:52,200 do skiing spam, it feels like it's an oath to win, almost. 744 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,600 Yeah, I know. I know, I know. 745 00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:59,600 Things and trying to beat them. Every time I play my local rival 746 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,800 here, John Joe, with his Lisbon Army, those skinks just you 747 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,600 know, there's the bane of my existence. 748 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,000 I don't know what to do with and I think maybe next time I'll 749 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:13,100 just I'll bring a can of deodorant with a lighter and 750 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:14,900 just burn them because they're all plastic. 751 00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:17,900 I think I might just set them alight with some kind of many 752 00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:21,000 flamethrower. And that'll be the end of those. 753 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,100 Yeah. Yeah, about this. 754 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,300 Fire. Good way to deal with skinks. 755 00:53:28,300 --> 00:53:36,400 Exactly ways in the game. I mean, I flame Cannon. 756 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,300 For example, with dwarfs fire-breathing with chaos, those 757 00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:43,200 are actually very good to do with the Skins. 758 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,200 I'm just worried that he's gonna, he's gonna bring my 759 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,900 garlic up to Dallas and get a lucky shot on my pilot and 760 00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:51,000 that's the end of it because you got, you could, it's got so many 761 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,800 bows. Damn, bear on, you know what I 762 00:53:52,808 --> 00:53:54,700 mean? Like, and yeah, they're real 763 00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:57,700 real troublesome. The end and strength for some 764 00:53:57,700 --> 00:54:00,500 reason that poison really strong. 765 00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:03,600 There's a dog again. I remember the hair dog last 766 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,300 time. There's always got something to 767 00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:06,800 say. He does like the Skins as well. 768 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,100 So I'm glad your dog doesn't like this game sets, good as 769 00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:12,500 he's putting his two cents in nice one. 770 00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:19,700 Now, I'm a man, I would be up for, like, trying in some Elf 771 00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:21,800 Army, okay? But don't you have any elves, 772 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,200 painted, or I don't actually have any elves assemble as such 773 00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:27,300 they have you played all can goblins before? 774 00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:43,600 Yeah, but not not much, I was introduced by my, I played quite 775 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,500 a while with the Orcs and goblins in the beginning because 776 00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,600 I didn't have my own Army painted yet. 777 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,800 I have always said, I only want to paint with play with painted 778 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,200 models. So I played the auction goblins 779 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,500 for a while, but that's a long time ago, I mean that must be 780 00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:10,000 Goblins and I will take the dwarves, okay? 781 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,700 As a my to make yeah we say I don't have I don't have the 782 00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:16,900 greatest at the moment, but we're going to fix that. 783 00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:20,800 I think, I think Joe was going to set up his own gaming rig at 784 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,100 home with the cameras and all that kind of stuff. 785 00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:26,500 He's got all the armies and or just about all of them anyway. 786 00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:32,700 And I think he's going to basically take the like a shared 787 00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:37,000 responsibility of doing games live streams at home that he can 788 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,400 invite guests like yourself and other people to play various 789 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,800 different armies and that kind of thing. 790 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,400 So yeah I'm very limited to what I can feel but I think they'll 791 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,800 be nice. If you can bring, you know, Army 792 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,100 do you play when you first started playing war hammer and 793 00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:54,800 I'll play the army that. I first really fell in love with 794 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,800 in Warhammer playing with the dwarves will definitely have to 795 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,200 do something like that. I think organ and In the future, 796 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,400 man. Yeah, baby. 797 00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:06,600 Yeah, I'd love to do that. Yeah. 798 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,000 What you got? Moses Aeneas, craziest bunch of 799 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,100 loons you'll ever find in the old world, with the or goblins, 800 00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:15,200 that's for sure. Nothing. 801 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,800 Yeah. Nothing will be guaranteed to 802 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,400 work as you want it to, so that's nice. 803 00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:23,600 But yeah, that'd be good. That'd be cool. 804 00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:31,900 I enjoyed auction goblins. I just never got around to paint 805 00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:34,400 an army of itself. That's quite a long dedicated 806 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:40,200 processor itself in calluses. Quite it's quite a comfortable 807 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:46,000 sized Army to paint, I think. But it or goblins can be What? 808 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,000 In excessive like 150 models or something like that? 809 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:54,100 Maybe in certain cases? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 810 00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:56,500 I can understand why that would be quite off-putting. 811 00:56:56,500 --> 00:57:01,100 For some people, I'm still not finished painting line or Goblin 812 00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:05,000 Army, so I could I could easily paint another few more units for 813 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,100 it. But yeah, any kind of scenario 814 00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:12,700 that you really favored like is it just pitched battles that you 815 00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:15,500 really favored the most? Or is it any kind of scenario 816 00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:17,300 that you like? No. 817 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,700 No, no. I don't like each other and 818 00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:27,800 that's actually because not much tournaments, were pitched 819 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,300 battle. So I played so many pitched 820 00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:36,600 battle than tired of that. Whenever we play, we always roll 821 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,300 for scenario. I don't mind anything, but I 822 00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:42,900 just don't want to play normal pitched battle. 823 00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:50,300 Every time I would rather have a small Mission or some, some 824 00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:55,800 other Wing condition than just the kill death and kill dirt and 825 00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,700 take the table Corp. Yeah, I totally agree with you. 826 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,000 I like know I was going to say, I totally agree with you mate. 827 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,400 I'm sort of a bit over the whole pitch battle thing. 828 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,200 Now, I really want to get into playing some nice theme 829 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,900 scenarios, like the campaign sets did and all the other 830 00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:16,500 scenarios in the game in the battle book. 831 00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:19,200 So we'll definitely do one like that. 832 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,000 Or we get one of the guys in the communities that make up a 833 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,000 scenario for us to play. I think that'll be quite fun to. 834 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:31,600 Yeah, yeah. Alright. 835 00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:34,000 Okay, you're gonna I think we might wrap it up tonight, mate. 836 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,800 So thank you very much for being a guest here on the commit crime 837 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,400 blog and podcast in a pleasure talking to you finally. 838 00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:48,000 Thanks for having me. I just hope that we can get a 839 00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:53,100 game organized for us to play soon and in the next month or so 840 00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,200 late. But until then, I hope you and 841 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:02,600 your family stay safe out there and Yeah, you maybe you can. 842 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:08,400 Well, I've Li you and your you and Joe and Caspar on the, the 843 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,400 flail of skulls podcast can review more army books for us 844 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:19,500 within the future for us, man. Yeah, I know, I'm going to be on 845 00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:23,900 the lizard, man, at least. Yeah, Joe wanted me back despite 846 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,000 I haven't played with the lizard man, but he's like, yeah. 847 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,700 But you face them a lot, haven't you? 848 00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:34,700 And I, yeah, I faced them a lot. So he wanted me on that one, at 849 00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:37,600 least, well, you've got one of your biggest fans right in 850 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,500 casca. He loves he loves you, but he, I 851 00:59:40,508 --> 00:59:44,700 think he thinks you bit of an idol in the Warhammer community, 852 00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:49,900 He agrees, he agrees to everything you say so he must be 853 00:59:49,900 --> 00:59:57,400 doing something right man. Yeah, I've noticed it's like 854 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,900 this and when I told him why I liked it and as yeah I like it 855 01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:11,100 too now but yeah I have played a lot back in the not as much. 856 01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:20,100 I have been granted a nice memory and I remember stuff well 857 01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:22,700 so that's good because of you Going to terrible memory. 858 01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:25,700 That's why I'm doing these YouTube streams because that 859 01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:27,700 way, I can never forget my battles. 860 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,600 So it's going to be nice to people back on over the years. 861 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,500 As long as YouTube still alive, that's how I can. 862 01:00:35,500 --> 01:00:38,800 I can look back at the people I've played and, and the games 863 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,500 are played over the years. Would be nice. 864 01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:42,600 Yeah, build a nice collection stuff. 865 01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:46,700 And looking at your profile picture on the thumb. 866 01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:49,400 Screw on my here, you're not quite a handsome devil mate. 867 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,800 So I'll give you that. You're the, you're the handsome 868 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,900 yorgen. Okay. 869 01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:04,300 Okay, my friend take care. Okay. 870 01:01:04,300 --> 01:01:06,300 And we'll catch you in the next one night. 871 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,200 Yeah, you could. I will definitely get you back 872 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,200 on soon. Yeah, take him. 873 01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:13,600 Okay, bye. You too. 874 01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:24,200 Bye. Okay, well, thank you very much. 875 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,900 We appreciate your concern, time to take it out of his busy 876 01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:33,900 schedule and now he's got a young family there as well, like 877 01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:37,200 myself and like many others. So yeah, it's nice to sit down 878 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,000 and give it a hobby and bit of a bit of a chat one-on-one because 879 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,300 I hadn't had the opportunity before. 880 01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:47,400 So thank you to him again and I hope you found it interesting 881 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,900 and something just bit more relaxing in the background as 882 01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:54,200 you do some hobby time as well. Now, there are many, many more 883 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,700 interviews planned. Next, we're going into the world 884 01:01:57,700 --> 01:02:00,100 of Epic Space Marine. So we've got a lot of people 885 01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:03,600 from the middle Homer. Epic community that I want to 886 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:09,200 bring on in the future talkin about my newfound Obsession 887 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,900 which is epic Space Marine that might bore you to tears. 888 01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:15,400 I don't know perhaps. Yeah, what's going to the 889 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,000 podcast? Going to change and different 890 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,200 types of topics and themes and that kind of thing of different 891 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,300 game system. So hope you enjoy. 892 01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:25,400 Those coming up in the future example, if we have a few gifts 893 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:30,800 that we want to bring one and talk to about that and you know 894 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,500 we might bring on some beautiful who specialized in a second 895 01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:39,100 edition, Man. O War and other systems of that 896 01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:41,200 era too. So not only one fantasy but 897 01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:44,400 other systems to so you find those enjoyable. 898 01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:46,900 Okay guys, will take care out there and we'll see you in the 899 01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:48,100 next one. Okay, bye-bye.