Okay, well let's get underway, they might.
So welcome back, everybody to the crown of command and of
course, I'm joined here with my wonderful co-host all the way
from Australia, Sydney, Australia.
Its kind of XA going mate. Yeah, pretty good.
How are you not too bad at all? It's a Sunday morning and we're
just sitting back relaxing and enjoying a hobby time and we
thought we would do something a little bit different.
This time. Usually we have and we, you
know, always will do like a shout out to the community and
what people are doing out there. And they're sort of hobby, hobby
space and hobby land, wherever they have might be and around
the world. But what we might do is more of
a because I you know talk to you about it this week, more of a
visual thing. Let's let's record these in
video and then post them up on my YouTube channel so people can
actually see the stuff that people are doing rather than
just us talking about it. So hopefully people will enjoy
both the audio and visual Representations of of the stuff
that we're talking about an hour shoutouts this time.
So yeah. So guys when when this podcast
goes out, there will be a video that's going to be uploaded with
a video of as talking about. It was going to be slightly
edited in places, of course. But that way, if you just want
to have a look at the at the pictures and all the eye candy,
we can do it at my YouTube channel, which is a link in the
show notes Below in this podcast, wherever you Wherever
you're wherever your podcast. Host is you'll see a disk like
the show description and all the links will be down there to
access the YouTube channel. If you weren't aware that there
is one for the crown of command, but without further Ado, mate,
let's begin with Discord. And you want to shout some
shouts and people out on our every lead painting section
hemming. Yeah.
So first up, just looking at one casting flattened one casting by
scales. Probably one of Few Warhammer
fantasy characters that I actually know because of reading
by doors, classic indeed are really like that.
Yeah. Especially the great details.
Anything, I could get the tiny little teeth and the eyes.
There's no way I could do that very good.
It's gonna take like the probably outstanding part of
that paint job, which is really hard to get is the effect of
having on his on his nonmetallic blade there.
He's got like little edges. It's See, I've been there and
that you got to highlight the edges and yeah, doing that is
really difficult so I think that's a really excellent job.
He's done all that fantastic to scroll up to the Phoenicians.
So this is one of two photos. That's, I guess like a leader.
But he's done these cinch nights and the standout for me is just
like the crazy amount of detail like on The Firs and stuff like
that. It really sort of melds
together. Well, I don't know what addition
they are or any of that sort of stuff and if then widen or New
or Old or a mix, but they look fantastic.
The back shots, just so amazing. Yeah, I love all that sort of
stuff makes mixtures of Furs and things.
It's crazy. And the leader, the leader that
he painted, which is the picture below that.
It's got some stunning details on the horse.
It's got like a Cthulhu technical mouth and like this
castable like I know, it's barding or flesh.
You know, well often with these cows horses and they're just a
conglomerate of everything who knows if they're even remotely a
horse anymore. Yeah.
Just crazy. It's really good.
Yeah. I like the tiger stripes and I
think the yeah and your overall I know that this is Jimmy from
the old world lives podcast. If people don't know who the
Phoenicians is, that's Jimmy from the podcast are in Sweden
and I know he's like a mad converter.
And pay to he loves all that kind of aspect of the Hobby and
he's always doing stuff for more than hi.
I'm so, or more time I should say.
And now, he's doing something for Fantasy battles because he's
a, obviously, an avid 6th edition player, but he's also
wanting to try some of the Early Edition.
So I think this will be part of a unit that is using for his
fourth additional fifth edition battles.
I think with his brother. It's a quite sick.
Yeah. Her and painting obviously
showing off more completed spacewalks.
Never get tired of seeing these just those crazy happening on
the legs and sleeves and stuff. Like great, attention to detail,
perfect painting, you know, tinted 10.
Fuckin oh look at that thing, it's amazing.
Yeah, now they're amazing, they're really good, great
source of inspiration, especially for me as I'm, you
know, making my way. Way through my talks and
painting them bit by bit. So it's really nice to see these
beautiful bad moons and freebooters and all that kind of
thing. Pop up from Highland painting.
We're going to give them a bit of a have a look at his
Instagram, maybe a bit later as well.
But yeah, fantastic work. On these and I was having a look
at beaky's hobgoblin card. Mmm.
Yeah, yeah. Now that foot is a, is it
fuzzle? The person who's designing
these? They're like, it's really
pretty. Okay.
I think it's I think his user name or his online besides else.
Yeah, something like that. Sorry if I'm wrong but you know
he's he's doing all these designs himself in 3D and then
people are able to print them out to use as cows dwarves or
hobgoblins. Coughs really nice scale.
Work here with the red. Now I think this is Andreas be
key, so he's done a really nice work.
Just making those really nice subtle highlights on each of
those scales. Just a little bit.
Yeah, that'd make me go cross-eyed doing that.
But yes, you can see these 3D designs are really nicely crisp
prints. When you do print them out,
depending what printer? Don't get me started on printers
of that know, anything about the other ask myself about Those
because I don't know anything about them.
So the higher the printed, the higher, the greater printed the
higher the print I guess that's right now pack us did.
He's got those Talon Rough Riders.
Hmm not those horrible new Scopes that Games Workshop is
made. Yeah these are fantastic.
Hardly ever see Rough Riders let alone how on Earth Riders so
well done man. Look at them crazy yeah.
Whether or not they're even effective in game.
That's another thing that thematic wise.
And, you know, I feel a bit of points up.
Fantastic. So are these conversions like as
in all models and they've been cut, just a heads, being cut off
and replaced on the bodies or what her know about that because
I think they might have released its Helen Roughrider, right.
But there's probably a few bits and pieces glued onto them
there. So I'd say some of its
conversion Yeah. Don't I think there are Talent
arthritis because the original Rough Riders were those are
chilling. Guys, if the huge big like
Genghis, Khan himself. Yeah, they're awesome, but I'm
pretty sure that's how I'm got some Rough Riders and don't
forget the original Imperial Guard, Rogue.
He later tried Euro ones. Who would just basically, like,
Proto kbands. You know, let's all sing too.
Okay, there you go. Very well done.
Now, someone who Really sort of stepped up to the plate because
of my whinging is Fortis. So all of the next sort of these
photos are by 4. So he's got epic rice.
A lot of These are 3D printed as well.
Yeah, so just goes to show you, you know, the technology just
isn't there mate. You know the amount of people
who just don't think 3D printing is there?
I just moronic like the the eight Ate Kale like eight.
Sorry a case kale and carrots. And a lot better though.
I like that name a perilous Journey that would put that in
the oven. Yeah, yeah, okay scale 3D
printing is nuts. But the the really outrageous
part of this is that this is epic scale and he's so much
detail on them. It's just going.
So very, very good painter. He's also God The scaled-down
battlefleet gothic ships, so you can cram more ships on a
tabletop sort of thing, and, you know, beautiful basis.
Obviously, you know, hit that with an airbrush and get a
masking tape and stuff. Do some Cosmic scenes, but,
yeah, it's a cool concept. I've never played with that sort
of scale down BFG, but I've heard about it to get more ships
on the, on the now, right? Yeah, yeah.
So, something muscle actually mentioned to me first very, very
cool. But he's also done, things like
chaos, wolves BattleTech Warhammer, like fantasy stuff,
just just outrageous. So, definitely popping the.
Every LED painting section and have a slope brows of all of
your stuff which is really cool. How stores are painted
excellently, obviously. Yeah, so there's more of these
Fazil that we got fat. Brazil fabric, that builds all
right. Coughs, coughs, coughs, coughs,
coughs. Okay, nice but yeah, really
good, really good work on these two so evil.
Purplish Lee countries purple skin.
Yeah yeah, great basis. Great phonetic.
You started the nice. I like the purple skin tones and
that kind of thing but it yeah shows off the sculpt and the And
how good they are. Because as we all know, cast
wolves fourth edition castles, I just, you know, like just out of
people's Financial reach to get to acquire them.
And then how many years will it take to actually get at a proper
Army together. Having bought up, small army,
lots and that kind of thing. So this is a great way to get
cows towards back onto your hero.
Hammer tables. Yeah 3D printing just makes this
old Hammer stuff more accessible especially if you And stuff like
as and guns. Which absolute flogs on eBay are
selling for like, you know, 60 USD for a blister of or carms
you go stuff yourself. You know you get that stuff
printed on Cults, 3-D or thingiverse or whatever.
There's multiple different people who have made alternate
or carms for your old metal Orcs And and Space Marines, and all
that stuff. So, yeah, a lot of a lot of cool
stuff here. Whisking Is he did an imperial
assassin, salt and Demon, this sculpt sort of struck fear into
most people's hearts. This was the absolute bastard
that existed before modern assassins came out.
He had usually appear next to your troops due to the polymorph
in card because he could take three will get cards.
And then he just loved a Vortex Grenadier.
You Commander, you know? Well, Done game over like yes,
very, very pretty model. He's done at Justice.
Hmm. I know been wishing Wizards
been, he said, he had like his own frustrations painting.
The thing I wouldn't even bother attempting.
It very nice. Yep.
Always been does a fantastic, fantastic job.
And I think this is for a commission I believe I'll demon
or I don't know old it. Sorry.
If it's a fox, right? You mentioned that before I
apologize. If it's the old and demon that
says, I think this is for somebody else but he's entering
it on. Anything you don't like well
somehow. Others will end up with.
Yeah yeah how it's going to jump to the modeling Workshop into
the next section? I jump around a bit it's just
how I did. So yeah I just wanted to point
out here. Either malstrom is a bit of a
like a balsa wood and cardboard wizard.
So showed off this sort of instruction heart.
He's also posted up like some completed.
Stuff like a building and a modular river, which you'll see
up there with. That's pretty cool.
That reminds me of the old, you know, using bits of cardboard
and putty and stuff like that. You can and you know in a
fantasy game. You pretty much just had to like
an annoying River, some hills and maybe a heart if you are
lucky. That was pretty much.
It reminds me, I need to finish off my my River tutorial.
It's it's almost done. I just need to finish off
something. Start painting the actual
sections, but it's very similar to what what he's done here.
I made mine out of like thick card as well that it's like a
high density foam. And so you don't need MDF,
because MDF is really hard to Carton and to shape into things
like this if you want to know a certain Arrangement.
So but obviously it's the most durable material but yea thick
card is a great way of getting And around that.
And as long as you can stop it from warping, then you're right?
You can make nice Rivers. Yes, 022 things that have come
up recently in the modeling section.
A Lot are two different types of fences, right?
So, One for Fantasy, being the sandbag or stone walls, which
hummin Deca, he's showed off. He's doing some of that.
Very, very nice. You know, I like it and then
also you've got a whole bunch of people like clam and odd gets
hot or Ted showing off their different train so Clem.
He's got the classic sort of wheat Fields made on a card.
Sorry carpet. And then the Old flocked
hedgerows, and that sort of stuff.
And then Ted showing off chain link, fence, and barrels and
crates. Now, Clem also showed off some
mesh fences that he did years ago, hmm, as well as a cute
little lizard man Temple. He made when he was like a wee
lad. But look at, look at the
weathering on. Yeah.
Ted's chain-link fence. So you can buy that chain-link
material like online from Hobby sauce and stuff, right?
And then just use, yeah, some some polls or Chopsticks or
whatever. Amazing material.
He even put in a little one-man gate, which is so cute.
Yeah, tiny little details, perfect.
I have to find that right? Because we can see that you can
see the building process for a lot of these other projects as
Well, it's not like just a finished, so finished article,
you can see the people, you know, things and giving the
work-in-progress shots, which is important as well.
Looks like something that I have to walk through it work.
Yeah. Maybe in the same one, maybe you
don't actually go to work. Maybe it's just a dream in your
intestinal top but you're right. It's like the guys put put in
there like sort of steps and progress shots which is
fantastic. And if you ever I need to ask a
question about how to build something, or do something just
ask in these channels because think the guys will eventually
get around to responding to, and, you know, that genuinely
looks like metal, but it's must again, it's been painted and
weathered. It's great.
Excellent work, because great, guys.
Yeah, very good. and I'll just gonna Yeah, skip to the
Warhammer 40K. Seconded bit on there?
Yeah. Now Chris Chris told me last
night when I was chatting to him, that he's trying some easy
and it's this thick Guardians. Yeah, excellent.
Cheesy. Good painter.
Yeah, it's just kick that off and he's debating on whether or
not to put a symbol on the forehead.
You know, one of those will Elder one, that's normally
something, it probably means something really insulting.
An elder, good work, man. But I think, yeah, I'd probably
put like, a little symbol on there.
But yeah, check out Tower of skulls is showing off the east
space fools and and Orcs. And yeah.
Cheesy a really nice man. I specially like the Orcs that
he's painting. The, I can bad memes colors,
very chunky. And you can see one of the at
least one of the sculpts in his Orcs nightmare Miniatures that
guy. Back.
Yes, he died in the fall. Is the foreground one as well?
I think the one in the middle. Yeah.
I think you're right. I can't, I there's so many of
them and they look how they fit in with Naz drag.
Yeah, dude. Well they fit in.
Yep, it great. Yeah, exactly.
It's Alternatives not me. Micha's.
Go and check them out. Yep.
Not that was granted by Diego but we love to be but yeah, it's
great guy and he doesn't really Full stuff.
So we need. We're going to feature more of
his, his upcoming, kickstarter's.
I think there's one that he's doing there for ogres.
I believe coming up soon, or trolls or something like that.
Yeah. So he's always doing something,
something old Hammer related. So, yeah, cool.
And when we scroll up, Yeah. Obviously I had to battle on
Friday night so we can't do all that success.
Turn into our squats was a bit messy.
Yeah. So you're he's been doing a
quite a few Miniatures and he did an extra armed Squad.
Hmm you don't see these often know so it's pretty cool to see
that you were killing a few of those before in your last.
Yeah. I blew one up.
He was on a track, unfortunate accident.
Yeah Micah that's That's awesome.
Really. Enjoy that a lot night.
Yeah. So speaking of secured, if you
have a look at Captain crayon, he's been doing some harlequins
that that's another type of model.
I'd never attempt to paint too hard, too much detail.
I saw someone was suggesting instead of just a normal flocked
base, you can get these printable bases that have Deck
of cards sort of like, you know, hearts and and something like
that on the basis. That would be really a little
let me, because the Harlequin Army is kind of like a deck of
cards, you got, you know, Solitaire and stuff like that.
So, yeah, it's interesting. But yeah, very cool.
Good work. Captain crayon, awesome.
If we jump over to the Warhammer fantasy section shirt again, has
been working on his rat. He's he's done like a character.
He's done. Some normal skaven.
He's also done some of those plague ones that plague rats.
Okay, the plague monks. Yeah.
And I think, yeah, if we scroll up a little bit, you can see, JT
posted a few like, battle picks as well that he had Infinity,
there's one over. Yeah it's like a Hydra or
something flaming unit that's hilarious.
Things playing fourth edition which is great.
It's my classic all-time favorite edition but boy.
Oh boy, I'd hate I Hope you had some spills to kill it.
Kill that Bloody Hydra with because it would be just
wrecking him wrecking, that, or Goblin players day if that thing
got loose. But I think it did actually, I
think he's giant ended up like in combat with it or something.
From what I was reading that. Yay check it out.
That's pretty funny. But this is what happens if you
don't kill the Hydra in time. It's just going to just engulfed
in flames and your poor little goblins will be a shriveled and
fried. I'd and eating for breakfast, or
dinner or lunch. So there.
Yeah, awesome. I don't know that.
I'd really love to see people play fourth edition, so please
keep those fourth edition picks coming at sets.
It's very heartwarming. Yep, please upload them wherever
you can. Now in the war Master section,
you've got a few bits and pieces in here.
So, on the lam, that's a 2,000 points of lizard, men,
beautifully painted. All right.
I know, you know fan, I love Them.
Yeah, look at that. See them?
Which is great. So those are those buggers and
identify them they're just like specks of color, specks of blue
and orange and Relic great and then Marcel's also got an in big
Imperial force that is pain and up.
Scroll up there. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Mmm, same tank. Yeah dude on a flying chicken
horse. Yeah, look at the data.
That's yeah, yeah, very nice and some cannons.
I think very cool. Hmm.
So you have Island. Yeah.
So he's ready to play. He's got some yeah, some other
units in their lives and how it is.
Yep, very cool. Yeah.
That was pretty much like the the highlights that I was going
to go across cool. Alright.
Other thing I wanted to mention was like in the YouTubers
Community section Shannon use that as sort of like a Nexus Hub
to dump the idiots in from YouTubers that you like.
That's, that's what I try to do. And if you're a content creator,
also, make sure you dump your videos and they don't rely on me
to do it. But anyone who see something old
Hammer that they think is cool, Chuck it in there and people
want to see this stuff, it just sort of you can't rely on you.
Tube you, send you your subscriptions and things.
It's so broken and rubbish. So yeah.
If you want people to have a look at something, Chuck it in
there, people like Ed from minisodes.
He says me hanging out content lately and it's just so good and
you know obviously yourself the amount of videos coming out
recently. It's it's really great to see.
Yeah, I'm really happy because he really is now you know, he's
latest video got like 10,000 views so far.
Which is amazing so he's really is really is you know, he's
channels, you know, just going to Skyrocket now.
So that's excellent cuz he's put a lot of work into those videos.
A lot more way, more way more time and effort than I ever do
in my videos. Mine are just sort of, you know,
here it is. This is what it is.
It's not going to be, you know, edited like is actually that
it's very rural. But these got these, these guys,
you know, they're doing some really excellent work out there
and making very professional videos content, so they should
be Corded. And they should be, you know,
light and subscribe and share it around a lot more.
So yeah, just say, I Johnny Watson gaming and I'm always
bored, never boring. Yeah, it's got some turnout
stuff, really great stuff. And yeah, it always board never
boring. He's covering stuff that a lot
of people won't touch like, you know, space Crusade and then
turn it back and it's like that. So yeah, check him out, man.
And old hammered. There's that's the that's some
yeah Terry that's who I'll be interviewing in our podcast
today. Really really nice guy from the
states and I'm really happy for him because again he did a he
did the tiered attack unboxing and when I first saw it it went
to 17,000 K views. And I congratulated him in an
email and when I went to interview, MIT went to like
seventy seventy thousand so he just went off the charts.
Need either. He doesn't know why but it's for
some reason that grabbed a lot of traction on YouTube and I'm
really happy for him because yeah, it means he's getting
recognition for his his efforts and hard work.
He puts into making those really high quality videos with he and
his partner who do that. So really get to see.
So if you're up yeah like kind of except if you're a Creator or
if you want to be a Creator and start sharing your content, this
is a great channel to post it up and find other people's stuff.
Other people's work. Are we go is tear into the
attack. So go check that.
I really, really interested in this one.
And and Guy, some dice Hammer, if you guys are listening to
this, really enjoy your videos on seconded from Germany.
So yeah, it's more of a worldwide thing.
Not just in America, not just in the UK but other people from
different countries, making their own videos and bringing
their own flavor, which is awesome.
Yeah, good, right guys. All right.
Okay. Well, so I think that will now
finish up our coverage. Of and thanks kind of picks for
a coverage of Discord will just have a look.
Now at some Shadows I want to give to people in our in our
other communities. So we're going to have a look
here, I'm going to start with Instagram.
And now, I've actually made a lot of connections on Instagram
with various different painters and hobbyists, and I want to
give a few people. A bit of a shout out.
We'll start with wraith wisp now, wraith Wisp.
Who is doing these wonderful old hammer style, paint jobs on
these really old models and they look absolutely wonderful.
I need to put this sort of dark, you know, backgrounds in on,
which gives it more of an atmospheric feel to them.
And it is still essentially, it's all those really nice
colors, dark deep colors, he puts on these Miniatures and,
you know, bike. He always comments in my my
photos and stuff when I post them up and my style is
obviously Completely different. It's a completely different in
contrast to what he does but he appreciates the old style of
here, a hammer, the red error. And I really appreciate this
kind of really old hammer style as well because it's, it's very
evocative of the time period. So he does some really good work
and dreams, and sell and sell era 40 cases.
So, and pray that I love it weather.
Yeah. So, the weather is great and
puts a little work in these bases and he does some work in
progress shots here. So you can see and video
sometime. So, yeah.
If you're looking for Content, there's a lot there's a lot of
stuff on Instagram, that really surprised me actually how many
people, how many creators are out there doing their own thing
and showing off their work on Instagram.
So it's really good to see. So rate with, I hope you are
keep supplying us with more old Hammer content or I enjoy that.
Now the next person I want to highlight is Gobo Gobo, hey,
which is a great user name and he also entered the old and
Demon with this entry here, which I didn't realize, but it
was inspired by my 1998 entry for Golden demon which was a
goblin writing a Squig. And he mentioned me in here to
say that he really liked that conversion when he saw it and he
said, he said, I'm going to try to do the same thing.
But I really like his idea better, because he's actually
using a night Goblin writing gobbler, which is awesome.
And it's just a great idea. Great Concepts conception and
well concept and its final realization looks even better.
Now that it's painted and he's entered now old and Demon.
I wish him all the best of luck and hopefully he will come or
way if not the winner, then definitely with some kind of
recognition for his his idea of and, and Execution, really nice
games. Got some other wonderful staff
here, really great benefit. This black org unit really like
that a lot. So yeah, really good stuff.
So yeah, I don't think Instagrams, all about boobs and,
you know, people doing silly stuff or cooking steaks or
whatever. There's also a lot of old Hammer
stuff here as well. Looking states on the Rocks, -
yeah, cook cooking, steaks are rocks that.
Come on a lot. I don't know why.
By now, this is Highland painting a course with some
excellent. Excellent examples of really
beautiful painting, beautiful basing.
And yeah modern techniques in with a bit of the old sort of
style techniques throwing there as well.
So yeah, really, really liked a lot of what island paintings
doing and rightly. So he's getting noticed and
getting a lot of people really inspired by what he's doing,
especially with these Orcs and stuff so great work as we sort
of seen before. So I won't, I won't go over that
again. Now the person I want to share
Shout out to, I think it's Giovanni is his name.
But there's gol cart Barney. I mean, your Carney amazing.
Amazing. I can't, you know, elaborate
enough. How good these these spacewalks
he's doing just incredible. The Banners are just wow.
You know, like, you know, I like to think of myself as someone
who likes to banners and does a fairly good job, but this guy is
doing some really crisp banners, you know, where you can't see a
brush stroke or You know that they just beautifully done
Beauty. So smooth and the painting on
the flesh tones and all the different color Hues, the users
on the skins of the Orcs and everything about the whole
execution of these are just perfect.
So yeah, just amazing and if you want inspiration, if you're
doing spacewalks come to this guy's Instagram page and please
check him out and yet please follow him because he's doing
really good stuff. Look at these Gretchen awesome.
Some Traders. Yeah, it's a challenge to work
out. What's actually on his Banner.
Yeah. Looks like a gorilla Fist and a
blood, Angel helmet. And everyone has a different
interpretation. Yeah, this is, this is the one
of the highlights for me. This one here.
I don't really add five more. That is the best eyeball ever
ever made. And the, and the champion
writing it. Is also stocking looking model.
Yeah. So just just great.
Just fantastic. So be inspired guys.
Go. And check out Instagram.
Check out these artists. Yeah.
Follow them and comment and show them encouragement.
So the keep going is the original brainy dog?
Brandy dog. Didn't mention the Brandy dog,
this terilyn. I So yeah, this is branded
analysis. This is your sparring partner
down to Sydney. Isn't it me?
Yeah, usually keeps, my husband is Ella.
Well, hopefully, he became your butt with his face walls, and
they're so beautiful. Yeah, awesome.
They just tremendous. Yeah.
He I think it takes him a long time to do his work but they are
just absolutely stunning when they're finished.
The hardest part is he has a full-time job and yeah and yeah.
Chips away. At what is doing so it's it's
pretty crazy so he needs a lot more, a lot more credit for some
of the stuff he's doing now. He's doing the old, sorry, the
old and Hammer as well. Yeah, one of your managers me.
Yeah. Yeah.
He had a lichter that it was just missing a bit.
So I just gave him a whole lichter.
It's funny. He found all these sort of,
like, mold damages and stuff like that and I think a lot of
the Lichter models that there's not terrible sculpting so he's
been painting it and fixing errors like in the casting and
all this sort of stuff. I had an original inbox when I
gave him and yeah that the things you pick up when you're
painting the model and must be so frustrating.
Hmm. And just one thing to point out,
you seen the shoulder pad here on this, this will fear?
No, comment fucking out. Let me know primer.
Now now Brandi dogs, a little bit unique Maybe to a lot of us.
And then the hobby, he doesn't actually Prime any of these
models, he just paint straight over the middle.
Now, I've seen this done before, back in the 90s, some guy walked
into our store at Oxford Street and he started his painting over
a model. He just took out the blister.
We thought he was nuts, but obviously Brandy dog is also in
the same boat of, maybe it's a new movement out there.
I don't know. But please, please seal your
Miniatures, if you're going to do this because the paint will
just literally flake off and chip off at a At a touch.
So you need to really look after your models.
If you're going to do that way, but it gets beautiful results.
What can I say? You know, his results in a stand
for themselves. So yeah, obviously it works for
him. Anyhow, guys are that's
Instagram. Hope you enjoyed that now over
to our Facebook group, just very quickly with at Ted Gunderson,
these finishes backdrop, which thanks Ted it was inspired by my
video so I'm really happy that's helping people with their
backdrops painted backdrops. And, you know, don't be, don't
be too intimidated by it. I mean people should just try it
and have fun and and, you know, I'm no expert at it at all.
I just enjoy doing them because they're just a fun part of the
hobby that's relates to this, this error in, in white dwarves
and battle reports because they always use these hand painted
backdrops and they would use that as a backdrop to showcase
the models or the battle scenes or and end the battle reports
and that kind of thing. So well, Ted that looks amazing.
David Rod as well as been hard at work on his Dogs of War army
as well. So doing a really fine work
there on his units and he's got some bug leans towards he's done
as well. So yeah, it's having a great
time doing that which is fantastic.
So good to see their David working hard mate, who asked we
can be highlight here, but Ed's video now for the tyranids
second edition Tara did, so we have a lot of different mixed
Content here. Some video though guys were
going to leave it here. Thank you very much.
Check out the check out the links Below in the podcast and
we'll catch you again next time. Thanks again carnufex yep.
Thank you. Sarah on.
Okay bye-bye. What we talked about today,
what's on your mind buddy? Well, bye firstly, now if people
who who don't know who you are Terry and where you're from can
you please tell our viewers and listeners?
Yeah exactly yeah we're at where you are in the world and what do
you do? Well, my partner and I'll in we
live in Colorado USA and we've been here.
Gosh, I've been here since the late 80s.
I think originally I'm from Alaska.
So I was born and raised in Fairbanks Ask her.
So that's where I got started with the hobby.
But yeah, so we're in western United States.
Brought okay night. And now I discovered you through
your YouTube channel, now, the old hammered YouTube channel.
So that's sort of catered to a lot of these older games that
we're sort of interested in as well.
Like, how did this all start up for you mate?
Well, you know, I think you're really the expert on this stuff.
I'm I would not count myself as an old hammered expert, other
than that is the time that I got started in the hobby.
So I was a done. Engine dragons player, back in
the late 70s, and we were playing a lot of TSR games, you
know, Boot Hill, D&D top secret stuff like that.
And one of the games we played was a tabletop game called
swords and spells by Gary gygax and another fellow.
I can't remember his name but it's kind of a rank and flank
type game that you we use sort of in conjunction Dungeons and
Dragons. And so we were kind of into that
but then in the 80s and the late 80s My guys around town started
getting into war hammer. There was a local comic shop in
Fairbanks and started carrying the product and the so.
Yeah, they would. It was, but it was a primitive
sort of Warhammer. It's basically half a dozen guys
would show up with a handful models on a Sunday afternoon and
we would make up some sort of scenario with a very loose grasp
of the rules which were at the greatest anyway.
Right there a little bit. What's the word I'm looking for?
Their heart was in the right place.
And the story, The World building was great and all of
the fluff and you know, the artwork and everything, the
rules themselves, you know. So it was basically just people
would argue and whoever argued the loudest, that's how the
rules were interpreted but we would play with five whoever
showed up, you know bring whatever yelled are pirates,
your Orc in the middle buggy, you know you're handful of you
know the old Rogue Trader, B Keys, the plastic ones and just
play it that way and that had such an impact on me.
I enjoyed that so much and I saw a meme a couple of weeks ago not
to quote a meme but it talked about old video games.
If it says, it's not that the game is that great.
It's how you felt about it when you were playing it and that's
what kind of gets burned into your brain.
And so and then, second edition blood Bowl came out.
And I got a copy of that, we play that whole bunch.
And then, you know, then I went off.
I got a job, I left home. I threw a lot of my stuff in the
dumpster because they only had so much room in the truck.
I take things with me and so a lot of my old games like divine,
right? And Empire, the pedal throne and
things like that got tossed. This was our worst hundreds of
dollars now, but I kept my copy of blood Bowl second edition and
I kept my old be keys and I kept my old work Dreadnought and all
that stuff. And I always figured I'd get
back into it some day and then, you know, Life happens.
But at some point you kind of reach a stage where it's like
well I'd like to do that I like to dig that stuff out again and
just play around a little bit and also I was really sort of
digging some of the things that were happening on YouTube with
the hobby, you know, wil Wheaton's tabletop.
I don't remember that you or, you know, many wargaming and
it's like, yeah, I like I like watching the games being played,
I like being able to participate that way.
And so when I kind of started thinking Around with YouTube and
various camera configurations, and we converted a room in the
basement to a game room, a little studio, and started
playing some sort of obscure indie games.
And that's because I'm stubborn C.
So I wouldn't do the games that everybody wanted to watch.
I do this really obscure out of print stuff.
And we did get a following, but it was pretty small.
And so it's some point. You just have to decide.
Well, is there anything that we can do this?
That we would like to do that. We can do that seems to resonate
with an audience and that's kind of where we landed.
So the channel used to be called Skirmish war games and we just
kind of did everything. People would say we're all over
the place. Yeah, we are all over the place
but I think over the last 18 months or so we've kind of
drilled down and and sort of listen to the audience and
started doing some things that people are resonating with or
resonating with the viewers and that's kind of where we're at.
So it's just it's a A creative Endeavor and I love it self
indulgent but I kind of enjoy it, I guess.
Yeah. And I really love a lot of your
videos and congratulations again because I think it's been a week
ago or something, two weeks ago that I congratulated on
seventeen thousand views for your tears, attack old
happening, I think 70,000. It's now 77,000 might.
That's right. So YouTube as you know, Josh can
I call you Josh? Is that okay?
Yeah, of course. Absolutely.
It's a Fickle beast and it amazes me looking at the other
YouTubers, and there's some great YouTubers out there and
then there's some other people that are I'll just say they're
manipulative, you know, and that's not necessarily a bad
thing. If people watch the content and
they enjoy it, but they're not really contributing anything
cost if I don't think. And that's, that's fine, you
know, there's a place for that but it's weird.
What gets the Clicks in the views and so a lot of our stuff
that I think we put a lot of effort and a lot of the battle.
Arts and things like that from some indie games that are pretty
darn good. Don't get a lot of views.
They kind of have a slow burn. They'll get views consistently
over a long period of time but then we just had a couple of
unboxings that turn it attack at 70,000.
We did a unboxing up some Russian stuff two years ago, I
think 10 a log, you know, some Warhammer knockoffs from Russia
that got about 60,000 views and then fall out waste on warfare.
We did the gas station, train kit.
And those were our biggest one so it's like it's there's no
Rhyme or Reason to it the stuff you put the most energy and does
not necessarily equate into viewership.
Not all. I know the views shouldn't be
the primary focus when you know as as YouTubers as creators and
we're doing this because we love doing it and we want to you
know, but it's gives you a little bit of satisfaction.
Are you get a little feedback positive feedback and it keeps
you going, right? We need an encore.
Now, 14 Attack gameplay video. Ooh, yeah.
We you know we're yeah we get a lot of that when we, you know,
we used to just do a lot of battle reports and we put a lot
of energy into that and it just didn't get us anywhere.
We had a real good cult following of people who really
enjoyed that. But we have to balance that out
now because you could put 50 hours into producing a battle
report and maybe get 1500 views. Yeah.
And so you, then you need to balance.
Dance it out with just for your sanity.
You know, there's some other things we can do that are
quality that are interesting that people are going to, you
know, relate to that don't cause as much, you know, brain damage.
So it's sort of a, it's sort of a struggle right now, to balance
it out, to do the stuff. We'd really like to do that is
labor intensive and also balance it out with some stuff that's
quicker that gets more views. So I'm sure there's a magic
formula in there somewhere. I'm sure there is made and you
know, you know, I really enjoy watching your videos because of
those you know, those old classic GW games and the end.
Yeah. Production values and the way
you care for these old games and you know, your way you want to
present it and give it as much love and attention as possible.
And I think that's really respected and enjoyed by lot of
your viewership. Especially the old old, have a
rhino, armored assault vehicle from. 1988 is classic old Rhino,
which is such a great iconic model.
And, you know, things like that sort of, you know, sort of
Inhaling back to the good old days that we would find, you
know. Okay.
Can I throw something in school? One of the things that's kind of
sort of an undercurrent of the channel is that we have a lot of
my own models that I'm slowly working my way through.
But I am a slow painter guy. Takes me about eight hours to do
one model from start to finish. That's kind of the place I go
at, but we we buy a lot of collections that are in
disrepair. We buy a lot of things that
people are done with or we finding.
Now a lot of not only Praises lightly, The original owners
have either they're through with their models or they have passed
away. So we have picked up a couple of
collections where we buy it and then instant Dusty cases and we
ask the seller. You know where did you come by
this? Oh I got this at an estate sale
or my buddy died. He left this to me or, you know,
something else. And so in a lot of cases, what
we're trying to do is take some of this old artwork.
Basically, these old metal sculpts that someone has put a
lot of time into get them fixed up.
If they need to be fixed if there's chips or broken pieces
or if they need to be based or whatever and get them on the
table top so that everybody can enjoy them.
I mean, I don't even know who these people are.
I don't know. The original source of a lot of
this stuff, but I kind of feel like if we can kind of lovingly,
restore it, and get it back on the table and a video or two,
then everybody gets to enjoy it. And in some way the person's
Artistry there, do you know the craft that they put into their
hobby lives on a little bit and who knows?
How long digital Antennas going to survive, but it might outlive
all of us. I don't know.
But that, this one thing we like to do is get the artwork back on
the table if we can. Yeah.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Level the Outlook and especially the, the old catalog YouTube,
you reviewed. Yeah.
That's the very first catalogue of a I ever saw pains workshop
and got me into the hobby, basically.
And I just love going through that because it just brought
back so many good memories, and I think that's what people why
people come to your channels, that, you know, you're invoking,
the group great memories, they had, when they They first got
into the hobby. Well, hit him right in the feels
right? Yeah, that's it.
No, I really love that because I, of course I don't have that
catalog now. I mean, I don't know where it
went pretty in the bin, you know, years and years and years
ago, but I would love to have that again, but just looking at
that as a video, you know, just thought, you know, display back
straight back to when I was 17. When I first got there and I was
from Games, Workshop in a self-addressed, self-addressed
envelope. After getting here request, and
that set me on this massive journey into games, which are
going and painting and That kind of thing was such a great, you
know, Voyage. So have you, have you been
playing all the way through or did you, do you have a gap in
your hobby? Life?
I really have a big gap. It was kind of, like, I got to
the end of, was it 98 or 99 1999, and I sort of just gave up
on games worship because it will just changing too much to
dislike and I just didn't really enjoy what they are producing
then and And I've got into other things and I sort of kept on
painting, but it just wasn't I wasn't gaming as much then, but
it's only until what three years ago now when I feel really
started crying a commander, I really got back into getting all
those opens like yourself and, you know, picking up all those
games that I love. Because it was like, you say,
you know, it wasn't really the rules that made the game's
great. It was just how you felt about
it at that time. And and sure enough, yeah I
think the rules. Yeah, okay.
They're a bit wonky and in places, but you sort of make you
get sort of, you know, sort of iron them out and get through it
and better, wait for the for the Miniatures.
And for the, you know, the times you have with playing with your
friends and laughing about things.
When you take gum, you know why? I think it's a little different
in your case. You're able to feel these
enormous model is your excuse me, you're able to feel these
enormous armies, and you are a world-class painter.
So the Army's look terrific and you have a love of the rules.
So if you really have the rules kind of down, you can sort of
navigate them I struggled with. I mean, I bought Third Edition,
we're Hammer fantasy and Roman chaos and I sort of struggled
figuring it out, you know, so it never and plus the quantity of
models necessary and the size of the table and then you got to
find counterparts who also have armies to play that.
There's a there's a lot of investment in that not only in
money, but in just time to To figure it out and, you know, get
everything on the table. And so I think I think if you
look at the channel or just where we're at these days, is we
like the old models? I'm I have nothing against the
new models. Mmm.
I don't really want to buy them and I don't I don't like that.
We bought a kit of, I think the necromancy enforcers, you know,
the, the nikamoda cops and I open up the box.
I pull it out. It was like a million little
plastic parts and decide that. Like no.
No, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
Same thing with some rulebooks. Now, somebody says, hey, check
out this rule book and it's 400 pages and its small type and,
you know, it's a tightly bound book.
You can't really crack it, open very wide.
It's like no, I'm not. I'm not doing that.
I it's too much like work. It's too much like, you know,
learning a new language or something.
I just can't do it at the stage of my life.
My brain issues, bungee. So we really like getting the
older models. We like using them in small
quantities. Because that's what we have and
there's a lot of interesting rule sets that it doesn't matter
what models you're using now, and the rule sets can be real
Breezy, 32 Pages, 64 Pages, maybe 16 pages and that's a lot
of fun. You can absorb it, you can play
it if there's pieces. You like you can sort of Tuck
those way for later and steal them for house.
Rule that Yeah, it's getting old models on the table, and maybe
with some fresh rules that are a little more sporty and just
having a ball, you know, trying to trying to have some fun
weekend. It's nice that used to be
incorporating the old models, but in like you say, well, these
Indie Games, you giving them a good shout and giving them a
good girl. But then using sort of the old,
you know, middle Hammer old Hammer models, right?
But in the sort of these what they call miniature Take type
games where you just get you collection of figures and throw
them on the table in the way. You go kind of thing so that's
pretty cool. Yeah.
Our local game store. We have they let us come in on
Tuesday nights for a miniature agnostic games.
And it's nice of them because they don't make any money on
that. I mean, they make their money on
Warhammer and Star Wars Legion and Magic the Gathering and
dungeon dragons and stuff like that so they don't make any
money off these indie games. They let us come in but they
they screw up the name, it's supposed to be Miniatures.
Agnostic. Game night but they have
agnostic miniature Gamers shirt and someone thinks is just like
a religious group or I will stop and no it's not this is not an
understatement. On organized religion says
agnostic, in terms of the miniature is not in terms of his
own personal beliefs. Hey so I got a question for you
Josh. Mmm.
Okay. Can I throw a question back at
you know absolutely go for it. So what are some if they're what
are some kind of What's the word white elephant is in the word?
What is the word for model that you'd really like to get your
hands on that? Seems elusive, but you'd really
like to have in your collection if you could get it at a
reasonable price, can you rattle off a couple of those?
It maybe you'd like to have but, you know, mile down yet.
So actually. Yeah.
Because I've sort of got this
bug for rogue Trader Orcs now, Rogue Trader talks have been
something. I didn't collect when I was in
the hobby initially and it always admired Kev Adams Space
Orcs, I just found them. Just very interesting design
wise, but it wasn't until maybe two years ago that through a
trade for painting. Kind of deal with David in the
United States but I could get my hands on a lot of these old
classic. You know, Road traitor like
early very early 90s designs so now it's kind of a hunter's on
forgetting, all of them all that I can to to fulfill all the
different Clans in this sort of Road Trucker.
In 40K sort of project them on now.
So that's probably that's probably my biggest thing.
Like, just getting a lot of like the Mad boys getting all of
those. I mean, that would be a great
collection to have all the Bali designs.
All of calves. Different variants of walk,
boys, that he did for that. I think it's probably the
classic range and I think that's probably, if I can look back in
a time in games, which of History, I think that was just
the Golden Age of of, Opting, I think that that brought out the
best of care of and it just brought at this wonderful range
of individual models and great character.
And in the designs that, yeah, I'd love to get my hands on
those which are, you know, they're pretty pricey and
they're not always available in the second-hand Market.
But yeah, made I think that's probably my my go-to at this
stage. How about you sir?
Have you have spares small? As you can use to treat out?
Say, you know, I've got a ABS, I can trade these outputs and
works to be honest. I don't, I've sort of collected
up, sort of collected, the things that I really needed.
And and I do have a couple of actually I'm in the in the
process of getting ready, a couple of awk vehicles from
Rogue Trader that I don't think I'll ever get to paint.
And I, you know, I've already painted one.
I don't need five Freight for example.
So I'm willing to just, you know, trade those off or sell
those off to get the models I need.
And so in the, in terms of Having like leftover stuff.
I don't really have a lot of leftover stuff I've sort of got
stuff I want and need kind of thing.
Nothing. You can part with things that I
don't really want to part with because it's took so long to get
them. And you know, I was very
fortunate to have those things that I just do not want to ever
have to go through the process. Right of stuff anymore.
You know what I mean? Right, I got you.
Yeah, but you know, I mean your collection must be quite sizable
and obviously you've got the basement to I hate all that, all
that stuff? Yeah.
But well, like I'll give you a couple of tips.
Yeah, you're if you're interested, it's cool.
I think one of the things is we've noticed in a couple of
occasions that people will spend that eBay.
It's easy to overspend. But sometimes you just get lucky
and, you know, we bought a couple of batches where we just
a bunch of loose old GW metal, 19 bucks, 21 box, and then you
start picking it apart. It's like, oh, here's a couple
of genestealers. Here's some really old, dwarves,
your somebody from the, which is The Grudge of drawing or
something like that. The queen Helga or whatever.
And so, it's funny what you can find in a batch.
But we've also found is, if you're not afraid to drop five
or six hundred dollars now, that's a lot of money, right?
That's a lot of money, but if we have some money in the PayPal
account, or if we've made some money off the channel, we kind
of consider that to be disposable, you know?
And and sometimes like I said, you'll get someone who is
selling something from an estate sale or selling a bigger
collection once it hits a certain price threshold.
People will shy away from it. They won't, they won't drop five
or 600 even though if you look at it and say, you know, these
are some old Minis and they are well painted and if you broke it
down by model, the each model would be you know on its own
would be $25, $30, whatever because of the rareness of the
model and the butt. So we have done that, we bit the
bullet on a couple of occasions that, okay, we're going to buy
this because if we busted it up and sold it back in pieces, we
could recoup Ooh, most are all of our money.
Hmm. But in the meantime and we
haven't, we've never done that. I haven't sold anything back on
eBay but that's my justification is like it's not, you know, I
could always put it back out into the world but we use it
right. And so it's like what what how
much would it cost me to buy that to buy that individual
figure and then paint it or have it painted?
Because you know I can't I paid at my level.
I don't paint a you know professionals level that's
That's time, that's a lot of things.
And so if you, if you are willing to do that and even if
you say, well, let's say I buy some big collection, maybe, I
could sell half of it back and recoup the money, you know, so I
don't know. It's it's an extravagance.
But like I tell people, I don't gamble, I don't smoke, I don't
drink. I don't own a bass boat.
I don't do any of that stuff. So amortized over a year, it's
really not that bad. I'm pretty good.
Yeah, my not me. The same.
But after I drink, I don't gamble or don't smoke anymore,
but yeah. But yeah, I sort of, I set a
limit my, my, my purchases purchases, or the sort of goals,
like, hobby goals to things like, okay, I really, really
wanted this or this is something I had in the past.
I really want it back in, if I can get, if I can recoup,
everything that I had back when I was in my 20s and I'd be
really happy and I can look at my collection now.
It's think, you know, I'm so blessed that I've got all this
stuff. It's all painters in my cabinet.
I can play with it any time I've got You know, years of
enjoyment, I don't need everything and I think, you
know, I think people get in that trap, they need to have
everything. I did of all the armies and
you'd have all the books and I don't think you really need to
have that. I think you just need to be
content with the things that really bring you the most joy
and the other stuff, you know. And you know, I mean, I think
there is an element of obsessive-compulsive behavior.
Yes. Yes.
I'll be and certainly I have it and some of the people that I
hobby with, have it. Yeah.
And what we've kind of discussed Gust is it's okay to have tubs
full of see, terrain building bits and pieces if you use them.
Yeah, you know it's okay to collect that stuff.
If you if you sit, you know. Like here's one of the things we
try to do is okay, we're going to, we're going to do some
stuff. We're going to spend four hours
on Sunday afternoon. I'm going to build something, so
I'm going to go into the tub. I'm going to pick something that
needs to be built or primed or painted or something and finish
it just get it finished. Not worried about doing the
whole set, not worried. Building a whole city, just
finish one piece and get it on the shelf.
And if you do that consistently, you can Whittle it down.
But if you try to say, I got to finish everything, that's in
this tub, you just going to be overwhelmed.
Now, the better thing to do would be not to fill the tub to
begin with, but once you have Try to whittle it down like I
think earlier in the fall we had a bunch of old mordheim train
filled cardstock stuff. Yeah, that I had picked up here
and there and it was in terrible shape.
It was Dusty at cobwebs on it, all the, you know, plastic
pieces and separated from the cardstock pieces.
And we just took a day to two days, actually, dusted it off.
Got it cleaned up, made some basis for it.
Got it, you know, all back in fighting form and it's such a
great feeling because now it's not just sitting there.
They're in a box, you know, disintegrating its back on the
table. And now it's back on YouTube and
and other people can enjoy it. So yeah, I don't quite know what
to say. I'm a little ashamed sometimes
but I looks like sounds like it's going to go home and it's
in a good place and you know you're enjoying don't judge me.
You can share with with the Greater Community on YouTube in
that kind of thing and they can they can enjoy you enjoying a
kind of thing and I mean they get a they get a good bright
kick out of that. So That's the most important
thing. So, but yeah, mate.
That's wonderful. So I've all your prized
collection that you have there in the basement, what do you,
what do you value the most? Like what's your sort of
treasured game or? Well, let me also, just, I used
to work with a guy named Rad mate.
And he was a military guy and he was about as wide.
As he was tall, he was built like a barrel, right?
Yeah. And he was and he's not with us
anymore. Sadly, but he was a classic car
refurbisher so he would buy these cars, he would fix them
up. And one thing he always told me
was, he said, you can't get too attached to anything because
it's all just metal and it goes away.
Everything in life is ephemeral, right?
So it's just stuff and yeah. So, I don't get too overly
attached to it, but there are some of the old mordheim, one of
the collections we did pick up. Was it a gentleman who had a
bunch of old More Time figures, he passed away.
He gave them to a friend, the friend soleimani Bay and we
picked up the lot and the just great.
They do not only are they great classic figures.
Great classic GW Metals but they're painted to a high
standard and it's a work of art, right?
Hmm. And then we have some old row.
Trader Eldar like early early, early stuff and do you remember
around? I know Sandman is Netflix show
now, but you suppose you were watching comic books back in
maybe they late 80s, early 90s. I forget how old you are.
Not not that old, maybe when the sandwich just turned 49, but I
never, I know. Okay, yeah.
I'm never never been a comic person made to be honest.
Well, Neil gaiman's the Sandman, hmm.
I was sad, man, is an old all Comic book character because
back to the 30s, I think. Wow.
But that was a guy in a gas mask with a gas gun, fighting Nazis
and stuff and then boom, the nilgai been the writer
reimagined him as being sort of the Lord of dreams and he wears
this helmet. He's got this really kind of
bizarre helmet, that kind of covers his whole face and it's
got big emerald, bug eyes and sort of a little snout on it.
Yeah. And I think that, I don't know
if that was the same same time frame, but I don't know if those
Eldar. Spire the Sandman or the Sandman
inspired the Eldar, or if they're both pulling out the
same aesthetic, you know, maybe there's some common influence,
but they, there's these old Rogue Trader Eldar and they have
all these Stones up and down their arms and was always a
little Jewels, all over them. And they have the big kind of
insectoid full-face helmets with the big eyes.
And just so, so lovingly detailed and sculpted by a human
mind, you and actual human. Being sculpted those things by
hand, you know, not a computer not, not an AI, you do not not
maximizing the amount of detail on a scoped and created those,
and they're just, just really wonderful.
And so, it's like that. It's not only, is it a, a nice
sculpt. That's a piece of art, but
somebody lovingly carefully rendered them within, you know,
paint. So I don't know.
I think 50. Years from now if they're not
they don't get destroyed in a house fire or thrown in a
dumpster by accident or something like that, they will
still be very collectible and I don't and not to knock anything
it's being done today. You know if people love it by
all means you know they should love what they love mud.
I don't know if the if the Plastics are going to be that
collectible, mmm. You know what I mean?
Pray melt melt in the cell. They're just as the Earth gets
hotter. The plastic was that bad?
Right? Well they're produced in volume,
it's just not the same, I don't know, I don't maybe and maybe
I'm just maybe I'm just biased because I know what I like, but
I think some of that stuff will still be seen as as a work of
art you know, for as long as it's around.
It's really interesting actually Terry because the more people
are coming to contact now with the younger that they're a lot
younger than me. So in some cases you know 20 25
years younger than me they really appreciate the old.
Tough even though there's no Nostalgia ties to the on stuff,
they really like the old stuff. They like the metal Miniatures,
the artwork and they get dragged into it that way.
So it's really, it's really great to see that younger
generation of Gamers and that really appreciate the old stuff
as much as the new stuff. Now there is a picture in Rogue
Trader. Are you mostly a Warhammer
fantasy guy? Did you ever play?
I love fantasy or a lot of things but you never played
early 40K. Never played early from the
cave, okay? So in Trader.
You know the first book in the whole series written by Rick
Priestly but a lot of other people contributed and it was
based on ideas from other books, you know, like laser burn and
space fairs. And there were Publications that
preceded that were they kind of cherry pick some ideas.
That was kind of rolled into Rogue Trader but there's a an
illustration in there. Back when Space Marines were
not, you know, these genetically there.
I don't even know what the Space Marine.
Laura's right now, they're not the big giant Premier Skies.
They were just basically crazy dudes from the feral worlds or
from The Hive cities or whatever, kind of that the
antisocial types and they took them and they stuck him in power
armor and they juice them up a little bit and they unleash them
on the world but there's a picture.
An illustration of a couple of Space Marines on a city street
and a guy in a mohawk is tagging a wall.
He's basically a graffiti artist and their rousting him, so they
got him up against the wall is pick.
Spray can is on the And and they're basically sitting there
with a bark batons calling it in.
So that is what I think of when I think of Space Marines are not
necessarily these giant Warriors, you know, traveling
across the universe and you know fighting the cosmic forces of
evil there on street level you know beating up the local Punk's
or tagging the wall or you know smoking in public or I suppose
walking on the grass or whatever.
So it was yeah it's a whole different Yeah, the word I'm
looking for but it's it's a whole different feel to it, it's
not necessarily quite so heavy, right?
Yeah. No, I tell the inside till they
get that. Yeah, I think, you know, going
back and listening to rip Pressly talking about Road trade
and how it was developed and during that time, and during the
political time in London, England, during the sort of the,
the, the pop culture that of that error with, you know, I'm
not a big Judge, Dredd fan. But I can see now the
correlations in the terms of artistry in terms of the the
writing and the background, it's all, it's all in.
Fused with their the things that inspired them as when they were
when they were young and it's you know, put injected into 40K
and that's how it sort of started.
So it's yeah. You know, it well and they
probably never considered back then that it would take off and
become this big, I mean it's fine when you're a smaller
company and you want to make something a little bit, cheeky a
little bit subversive and it's like, fine, we sell a few
copies, it'll be great to be great if we can make our money
back on this but then when you become a gigantic will
Corporation, you know, with a market cap, upwards of a billion
pounds or whatever it is and you're selling your IP to video
games in the comic books, and you got a deal going on with the
streaming services and all of that.
You cannot stop writing the tiger, right?
You can't afford just to make some little thing and be cheeky.
You have to be pumping Out product every every month to
keep those numbers out because you got shareholders and the
board of directors and the CEO and all that.
So it's a completely different thing.
They could they could afford. Board to be a little goofy.
Yeah. Back in the 80s and the early
90s. Because the stakes were not
there. And they probably, you know,
they didn't have a bunch of shareholders breathing down
their necks, and it's Ron. Yep, that's what I do will
change in it. You know, when that change hands
of ownership and, you know, became this big Global, you
know, you know, it is what it is, right?
Yeah. Comes with advantages.
I mean yeah crack got a lot of product.
Yep. You know he just the idea that
they have been producing these novels you know for going on 35
years or whatever. So of the depth of the universe,
it's the beauty verse is deep and it is vast and there's a lot
of Storytelling that goes on within it and I can't think of
anything. Comparable unless you think of
like Star Wars maybe but that's that's the inverse, right?
That's the the story came first and then the games came later
and kind of tacked onto that whereas Warhammer built its own
Universe from the ground up. Yeah, that's right. - yeah, it's
a fascinating peanut bit of History if you go back to listen
to Rick Priestly and he's lot of interviews he's doing now.
Talking about, you know the the days of the early days.
I let the 80s and working in the studio and how he sort of got
into it and And the early forming of the company.
It's really interesting and I really, I'll leave some links in
the show notes, but maybe you yourself tell you want to listen
to at some point because it's yes, it's a fascinating to hear
it piece of history there that we could sharing with a lot of
people now on podcast. Not mine.
I don't know why that's not mine but yeah another podcast that
he's talking to other people about it.
But hey Terry. Look, I've taken up a lot of
time. It has been a fascinating chat
with you today. Are really talk too much.
Oh, no. Not at all.
Right, please. We have to have you back on
because I'm four, I'm sure we're going to find some.
Kind of old hermit or Hammer subject or something, about some
aspect of the hobby that we can get you back on my in talk.
Talk to us about it. But it's been really interesting
to talk to you. And thank you very much again
for your time. Well, thank you Josh and you are
a master painter. I really in awe of the stuff,
you're able to produce think he's, I think he's a shame.
You're on the other side of the world.
Yeah, - okay, we'll need to talk.
We need to talk about that. All right, what's in there?
It's you to my take a have a good day.
Bye bye. All right, bye.
Hi everyone. Its GJ here with another call of
the crown update. This is going to be our second
to last update. We've entered a final month of
the challenge. Not everybody knew that may was
always part of the challenge. So some people have finished
their armies and April a congratulations to those that
have finished some others have sadly had to drop out.
This is a recurring theme at some point life.
Just gets in the way and people have withdrawn from The
Challenge. Always, almost always, I
believe, saying a word of thanks for participating and sharing
that. Even though they were not able
to finish the challenge, they still had a lot of fun
participating, and it had really helped them get along.
And that just warms my heart because that's the whole purpose
of the challenge to get people to paint their armies.
We've had in Toto. All around 12,000 points
submitted for April, which puts the total of the challenge
painted so far, add well over 130, 120 thousand points, which
is just an amazing number and a great effort on everyone's bars.
I'm really happy to see all the entries and at this point, you
start to reckoned. Sni's people's Army's and
painting Styles and some really nice works and conversions in
there. Sadly, I was not able to submit
something for myself for my own two challenges for my basement
and my ogres because I have been sidetracked with another project
and I've simply been too busy to do anything else apart from that
one project. So without further, Ado, let's
take a look at some entries and are some that that really stand
out. The first one is that I want to
mention is Alexander radek, which I probably mispronounced.
He got a high elf Commander with a battle standard and that is
the high elf charioteer from the fourth edition.
Chariot kit. He works really well as ABS be
so great job there. I'd like to a point out also,
Andy bunner who has a dwarf Cannon, I don't believe these
are, this is, this is, I think a flame Cannon, but I do not
recognize these Miniatures might be that, I just don't recognize
this get or it might be that they aren't from, GW bad, moon
Gobo submitted, a fantastically painted orc warlord on wyvern as
first, I believe this is the exact model for tradition as
Slaughter a model, the Banners are just amazing.
It's the well what's the score? This is the red.
Is that evil son logo? I'm not sure does.
It might be something 40K related but what he's got to do
back banners and they are split down the middle but the imprints
continues. So yeah, very well done.
You got some lovely. What are these reich's got Food
Nights by a blue in VT and I Should Skip some of the Goblins
at least because I tend to focus on them for some reason Dan then
he put in some dwarf Corliss very very nice models of leave.
These are the old metal Marauder models I'm not sure.
He put some bow strings on there but I'm not sure if these are
part of the models or if I'm just mistaken and these are
Plastic kits after all, they do not great.
Either way, let's see, we've got David rod with the red yellow
render, Loop over the mercenary General, the disorder support
and type General on foot. Great model, there Frogger
submitted, some armored skeletons or other armored
skull? Just regular skeletons, maybe.
But they have those coffin, lid Shields.
Very well done. Great paint job there.
Hetero. I another Orton Goblin layer new
put in some night goblins on spiders and a couple of stone
trolls very well done. Ilka and I'm sorry, I'm not
going to pronounce your last name, Dogs of War, some Vespers
Vendetta. The what are they two Duelists
with the The Sword and Dagger and these are painted to a very
realistic. Standards.
I wish I could do it like that very well done, James st.
Cyr, some chaos War hounds with a chaos Chariot and a chaos
Knight with a whip that has the that's pushing forward.
War hounds gepard. Dunning has submitted his dark
elf. Dragon, he painted the rider,
the last month. And now he's Got the dragon.
Joe Simon stalker. From the zombie Fame.
He has a necromancer, which is painted with a very nice, crisp
standards and the details in the book.
The necromancers holding is just amazing.
So go check that out. Let's see.
What have we got here? Very nice.
Hi, Al V rho by John moravsky. This is I believe the plastic
kit yet. Later era plastic kits that
also. I painted to a very realistic
standard Johnson, do he's doing a combined high off and dwarf
Challenge. And he's some usually submits, I
believe one unit from each. So now he's got ten, white
lions, and they are sort of facing off against dense layers.
So, yeah, I'd like to see how is that battle goes.
Joseph Justice. He submitted several or entries,
just finishing his Challenge. And another one who finished his
challenge is Marcel. Marceau, your shoe has submitted
It's layers for his final final entry.
Matt Barker always lovely to see one of his collages which is
this how you pronounce it. This is like it's a several
pictures mashed into one in this case of some chaos sent hours.
Let's see what else have we got here.
Well, we've got a lot. So now I do wish I could shout
these all out Marcia. He has some What are these days
are? Fell bats and rates and also an
orc battle standard-bearer, really nice models.
We've got some dark elf troops, a dread Lord, and a cauldron of
Blood by Maury beIN some more dark out here by pyotr a
sorcerer or sorceress, I don't know only Dark Pegasus.
The Richie covers has submitted to shop the and I believe these
are based with actual sand from the Egyptian desert.
I can't be 100%. Certainly didn't say it but I do
know that he went there to to base some Miniatures while he
went up for work. But then he brought some
Miniatures for basing as well. No, they can say unit of to
tagging guard and for some reason, I see See, I put up a
picture with them facing away from the camera, so I might have
just gotten the wrong picture, I'll put up the wrong place, I
have to check that. Let's see who else?
Roger who's got a hero on a pegasus returning hero on the
Pegasus surrounded by some Squires and there's a beastmen
for Sam Clayton, which is an egg that's hatching, and where, Or a
bird head is coming out on one side and two human legs are
coming out on the other side. I don't want to don't even want
to know what happened over there.
Steve Quinn. Some fantastic widows were they
nice BSB? We've got sun zhi, with some
armored skeleton. Warriors darkened with some
chaos. Dwarf, boo centers and a
Hobgoblin on a wolf. Let's see to Elms has said, this
is going to be my last entry because I can't, I don't have
time to paint anymore. He didn't finish the challenge
but he did submit a wonderfully painted very colorful giant as
well as a Fanatic in a lovely red, and black color scheme.
So, yeah, I like to eat it. Also, submit his finished Army
pick or at least what has been finished so far.
So you will see that in the The final month or at the end of the
final month. Let's see.
Finally a, your brush Crush has a goblin Shaymin, a forest
Goblin shame, and with a little spider familiar and they managed
to look both menacing and very cute.
So yeah, lots of lovely pictures.
As always, I hope that you take the terrible to take a look at
them, you can find them On the My Block GJ's Workshop, dot
wordpress.com and I also dropped the link on the crown of command
discourse and the crown of command Facebook group.
Thank you so much everybody for your submissions.
It's a great pleasure to host a challenge like this and I do
wish you all the best of luck for the final month, just in
case you haven't finished yet because I know that when I'm
recording and probably especially Ali.
When this is broadcast, some more people will have entered
their final entries. Now, for those of you who
haven't best of luck and yeah, please go go check out the
entries even if you're not in a challenge yourself and just drop
some compliments here and there because these people have done
an amazing job so far. And I can't wait to see all of
the completed our me pictures and to do a final recap of this.
This challenge. Thanks for listening and see you
next time.