1 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,000 Okay, welcome to the crown of command. 2 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:37,600 I'm Josh and with me here I have friends from Italy. 3 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,400 France. How are you? 4 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:42,100 Hi, how are you? Not too bad mate. 5 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:44,500 Thank you very much for joining us all the way from Italy. 6 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,300 It's very late in the evening for you there and it's quite 7 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:52,500 early for me here. But mate, it's really exciting 8 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:56,600 to have you on because I love to having guests on from all around 9 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,600 the world talking about their passions for the hobby. 10 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,099 So Franz had a do Discover tabletop games and miniatures. 11 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:11,100 And discovered tabletop games during an holiday. 12 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:19,800 I was 10, I think, and I saw my first role playing shop And I 13 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:28,200 was with my grandfather and I wanted to go inside and I felt 14 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,300 in love with the few meanings bad painted. 15 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:36,400 They they were exposing in a box and I bought my first 16 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:38,000 Miniatures. It was a Reaper. 17 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:42,000 I think I could have it some work. 18 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,900 Oh, that's great. That was, was the gaming scene 19 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:52,900 in Italy, then at that time when you discovered Miniatures and 20 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,700 and wargaming, and that kind of thing was it quite popular there 21 00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:01,400 as a hobby choice? No, not so much because I was 22 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:09,500 very, very young and toward the end of 80s, I think during 90s 23 00:02:09,500 --> 00:02:14,100 year. Yeah, you need to re also my 24 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:22,300 City, open it one of the first shop and this way I I met wore 25 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:27,900 armor for the first time and because he the shop sold only 26 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:32,300 what I'm rubbing enters I think. And so I started to buy boxes 27 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:38,000 and Miniatures just to collect them and later, I discovered the 28 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,700 game beside the mediator and I Our to play wear armor with the 29 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:48,700 5th edition and during the 90 years, the also the tournament 30 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:56,300 movement improved very fast. The beginning, just the club and 31 00:02:56,300 --> 00:03:01,600 some shops offer. Some place to play. 32 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:09,800 But during 96-97 there was some important tournament and the 33 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:15,000 beginning of the new century, we had the first Grand tournament 34 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:23,400 in Milan. I remember I played Hey, that's 35 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,500 excellent. So, it was a, it was a grand 36 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:27,400 total amount of 50 dish. It was that right? 37 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Yeah, I played a lot of Torment. I started with them motormen 38 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:38,600 near home and I played a lot of ground to remain in Italy who 39 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,300 also UK and I played a lot of ATC competition until ninth 40 00:03:43,700 --> 00:03:49,700 ninth age Division, I play wrong 5:30, Shinto 9th Edition, well. 41 00:03:49,700 --> 00:03:53,600 Okay, hit any like personalities from Games Workshop, like any of 42 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,900 the studio stuff come down to the Grand tournaments in Italy, 43 00:03:57,100 --> 00:04:00,200 what story? Did any of the, you know, like 44 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,900 the Rick Priestly or antechambers, come down from the 45 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:09,800 studio. In his first Grand tournament 46 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:15,300 was Was quite small in a very beautiful place but a small 47 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:22,500 place and later during the years, the tournament growed up, 48 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:28,000 not as the UK grown to around. But we have some some nice 49 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:35,800 events also in Italy and later, also games day will started and 50 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:42,600 I think that, you know, the Europe because they The event 51 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,800 made by games warship was similar, I think. 52 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,700 Yeah. Recently you had a big 53 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:53,000 tournament. They're in Italy. 54 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:56,800 Now this is the old hamburger old Hammer event is this the 55 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,300 very first time you've hosted in run, ran this event? 56 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:06,800 I organized this event because I stopped to play warmer 57 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:16,400 competitively way some years ago and because of family kids and 58 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:25,000 they age and as I restart to collect just to collect and In 59 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,800 The Collector words, overall on Facebook and social media, I 60 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:37,400 discover really nice word made by great people, and I found 61 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:44,900 that the Italian movement collector, mood need something 62 00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:48,600 new. And so I try to organize this 63 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,000 event with the tournament 6th edition warmer. 64 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:59,100 But overall with The painting competition with a great price. 65 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:03,600 They all the demon sculpted by his Bonnie and painted by very 66 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:13,400 easily to Golden Eagle winners and a market, an expo space. 67 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:19,000 Great bar restaurant and workshop with the famous painter 68 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:26,900 and famous people and we had 150 People's was a great success. 69 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,300 Well 150 people. Yeah, that's amazing. 70 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:36,000 Sq6 in the tournament and all the rest for the collateral 71 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,500 events or just to, to see the market to buy to trade was very 72 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:43,600 nice, just just ate a delicious food. 73 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,800 You had a really good restaurant set up there. 74 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,400 I see the bar and the restaurant was very important for the 75 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:58,100 success of the event. And we, it's A preview most very 76 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:03,200 probably we repeat the events during the ATC competition. 77 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,600 That's the will be organized in Italy in August the first 78 00:07:07,700 --> 00:07:13,900 weekend of August and after the success of the event ATC 79 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:18,000 organizer ask the to organize something, all down there, 80 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,100 inside the ATC competition. Why was it 6th edition? 81 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:23,400 But who came to that decision in the end? 82 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Did you ask if Ready to say, hey, we can't, I ask him to 83 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,000 play. It's a trade Union between the 84 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:38,900 really old armor 4th and 5th edition and a play again, quite 85 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:44,100 nice and fast to play as opposed to play, you know, 4th and 5th 86 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:48,400 edition, which is the you know, the additions that I I play and 87 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:55,500 probably most famous for the 90s but I guess the only Difficulty, 88 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,600 if you're running a fifth edition, told him it is that 89 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,100 everyone has a box set of the magic. 90 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Yeah. Sure. 91 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,400 The cards that you can probably get. 92 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,500 You can really get away if if one had like a custom-made set 93 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:13,400 of Windsor magic cards and just their spell cards for the day. 94 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:15,900 I mean, I think you could you could probably do it, you could 95 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:19,000 organize it, you could get pre planned ahead of time. 96 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:23,500 I mean, that's the only way to get around it that you can find 97 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,000 some kind of Service and you just print off all the cards and 98 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,300 then give it and make it available to all the people in 99 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:31,800 the day. Yeah, that's probably one. 100 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,700 One way you can do it. Try in the future, why not? 101 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,900 Yeah, I mean, you know the the guys in Poland, the pretty 102 00:08:37,900 --> 00:08:41,000 successful at it which is awesome to see. 103 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,100 But yeah, no, I can understand why six would be probably the 104 00:08:46,100 --> 00:08:49,000 the choice that most people would take, but it'll be lovely 105 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,200 to have maybe, you know, different editions played it. 106 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:57,400 Different years. So maybe in future old Hammer, 107 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,700 Italian events. We could have 50 additional 108 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:02,400 fourth edition or even Third Edition. 109 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,400 I mean, it's, it's old Hammer. So I'll have a really, you know, 110 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,500 associated with the Third Edition, the old editions of the 111 00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:13,200 game different from being that the mass for on-demand but it's 112 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,800 very hard to play in the tournament. 113 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:18,600 Yeah, that's very true. There are also two important 114 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,700 reason behind the choice of the sixth edition. 115 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:29,400 The first one was that in 6th edition, you could play or the 116 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:35,400 Army's Tom Kings and all gray exist during the 6th edition 117 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:39,800 before the Army range could be smaller. 118 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:45,300 And the second thing was the organization, the card, the 119 00:09:45,300 --> 00:09:50,100 magic object of the boxes you need for Carol's for real of 120 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:52,600 chaos. It's quite difficult but we will 121 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,900 try. I love that. 122 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,900 So is this your favorite edition of whatever? 123 00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:02,300 My favorite favorite? I think the fifth edition also, 124 00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:09,300 if I want my best prices during the 6th and the 7th edition ATC, 125 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,300 Italian Championship Grand Touring, it UK tournament word 126 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,100 during the sixth Vision was very, very improved, a lot of 127 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:23,300 tournament, a lot of big tournament and we start to play 128 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,300 in the Europe. The sixth edition in the fourth 129 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:31,800 and fifth edition. Just few people came in UK or 130 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:41,800 abroad play Not So Young. Yeah. 35 40, will the age of the 131 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,400 most player really 35 to 3035? That's really young, there are 132 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,700 25 for it. Yeah, well that's that's I'm 133 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:50,500 really surprised about that. Okay. 134 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:52,300 So you're very young guy then, friends. 135 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:56,200 Well, you're a lot younger than me 45. 136 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Sorry. Okay. 137 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:04,000 Right. 35 45. Yeah, that's good. 138 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:10,100 And now was the atmosphere very competitive or was it really 139 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:13,600 friendly and people just laughing and having always very 140 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,100 friendly? First of all because the 141 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:20,900 tournament was in a very clear way on the info pack that the 142 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:24,100 tournament would be not competitive to make the roux. 143 00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:29,500 We for the player. We had two or three, but no one 144 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:34,700 called they were never called No call for the free, the player 145 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:38,400 could resolve. The matter that between them. 146 00:11:39,100 --> 00:11:43,200 It was very nice that most fear. That's great. 147 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,800 That's excellent. It's good to see ya. 148 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,900 It was they had some kind of award for the best Sportsman 149 00:11:48,900 --> 00:11:51,700 because usually in the old old tournament saying that have like 150 00:11:51,700 --> 00:11:53,800 a best Sportsman award and that kind of thing. 151 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:58,800 Did you have that kind of Wood on the day award the price. 152 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:01,200 So yeah. So like basically you have like 153 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,600 the regular pliers of what second third or whatever. 154 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:12,800 We have a special price printed. The complexity, with the image 155 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,400 of the events. It was a jumble actually, a very 156 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,800 nice artwork with old under the Italia for Lee and the date 157 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,700 first, second, third and best army. 158 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:31,400 And for painting, I told you, we organized a special price and 159 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,000 all the demon was very, very nice. 160 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:40,600 And it was a real success for the painting, a competitors, and 161 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:45,000 the painting competition was a fast painting. 162 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:52,300 And so we as a present, we left all the models to the painters 163 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:58,800 after the competition. And we have some some gadget for 164 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,600 play where a or the T-shirt with the image of the events. 165 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:07,500 Nothing. So it's really good and now, as 166 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:11,700 such for the totem, it you had some kind of trade stool there 167 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:15,500 so people could bring like a Brink we select bringing by or 168 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:20,700 bring in cell kind of thing there. 169 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:26,000 So did a lot of people bring goods to Sell on the day or 170 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,600 trade Brands you had, like it's on break that people bring it 171 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,100 because I saw a photograph sort of lots of tables full of 172 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:34,500 Miniatures. Old Miniatures, that people will 173 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:36,200 either selling or trading on the day. 174 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:43,300 Yeah, the Royals are, there were six big tables with six, big 175 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:52,800 seller and other three, four tables for the players that they 176 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:59,000 want you, they could expose Your army or tried to trade some 177 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:05,600 meanness and I think the Expo moment was the best moment in 178 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,400 the events. We've all really, really full of 179 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,900 people. It was near the bar and so a lot 180 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:15,700 of people start to drink and then to buy me haters and then 181 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:20,600 to give money to the painter for the painting service and or 182 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,000 trade the Miniatures, the boat with other boxes. 183 00:14:25,900 --> 00:14:27,600 Very nice. A lot of people. 184 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:33,800 I'm very proud of this part of the event and that's excellent. 185 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,000 Our yeah, I would really enjoy that part, I think, just going 186 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,400 through and be like going in one of those old local game stores 187 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,100 and finding all these wonderful small Treasures on the tables. 188 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:50,400 Yeah, that'd be excellent for some some nice boxes on the 189 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,800 table. Yeah, 200 blisters. 190 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:57,600 Yellow and red. Wow, private, even yes. 191 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:04,100 Hi. I will bring some of my boxes to 192 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:13,100 trade and very nice. It depends if you really need it 193 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:19,200 or not we don't have any friends but yeah but yeah you said 194 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,100 you're a collector and you know as soon as I was aware of you on 195 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:27,000 Facebook, you had a lot of pictures especially old Hammer 196 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,000 like really old Third Edition stuff. 80s Collectibles. 197 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:35,200 So how how extensive like how large is your collection now 198 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,400 now, now it's quite a bit. I finished all the boxes set 199 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:46,600 from 80s and I miss just five metal box, metal box. 200 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,500 It said from 90s. Oh, really? 201 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,300 Yeah. And I completed all the Chenery. 202 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:58,600 You sides. Make that lick my ass. 203 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,100 Master Charles overbooking often all the scenario all the 204 00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:08,500 villagers and a lot of. But the central point of my 205 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:15,600 collection are the collection of the military service related to 206 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:21,300 the old arama, the old Games Workshop games and so gangster 207 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:27,100 daughter who Lone Wolf, paranoia Judge, Dredd Gothic horror. 208 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:31,900 This is the the center My collection and and it's a model. 209 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:38,600 But I hope to finish. Also this project in few months 210 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,100 crossing fingers. Yeah, that's great. 211 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,200 And what is the most prized piece of your collection? 212 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Like, what's the most? What's the piece that you love 213 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,400 the most? You cannot ever separate with 214 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,100 part with. So what's your favorite pasta? 215 00:16:55,100 --> 00:17:00,800 Expansive Wars and ears and will be Be the chicken driver. 216 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,400 What's the chicken Dragon? Sorry, please refresh my memory. 217 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:09,400 It wasn't on the front page of an 80s catalog from games water. 218 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:16,400 It's a dragon big as a chicken. Is it? 219 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,400 Is it like, is it like a really small dragon in comparison to a 220 00:17:20,408 --> 00:17:23,500 lot of the, like the emperor, Emperor, dragon, or the great 221 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:27,800 spine Dragon, it's very small for four or five times. 222 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,700 The of a dragon. Yes. 223 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:32,200 Very big. Wow. 224 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,800 And my favorite modest is my first model boat on the bay and 225 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,900 it's the golden Paradigm. It's a very normal mode is not 226 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:52,400 so rare and not so hard to find but it was my first DB model but 227 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:58,900 both only be and I have it. The first Rogue always. 228 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,800 If you could go back in time. Like if you met dr. 229 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,300 Who and he could take you back in time to the 90s or the 80s 230 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:09,200 and you could go to a game so Ship Store anywhere in the 231 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,700 world. Where would you go and what 232 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:16,000 would you like to buy? I'd like to buy the last seven 233 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,400 eight more than from gotta quarter and judged right? 234 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:27,200 So I finished all this serious, I can find them now, it's more. 235 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:32,000 More than a year that I am looking for them, but I can find 236 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,500 the last models, right? Okay. 237 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,700 That's great. Excellent. 238 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,000 I'll just read and he got a gotta cough but the color was 239 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,800 the name Games Workshop, gave to to do series. 240 00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:50,100 They never had the royalties about to Lou but they prepare 241 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:57,200 and printed a series of I think 60, 70 min. 242 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:03,300 Otters and they changed the name and called them, gotta call from 243 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:07,400 the word of the natives is clearly the to war, okay? 244 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,000 All right, I'm not familiar with this particular range of of 245 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,400 model. It's very nice. 246 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:18,500 Try to check the catalog or so Legend So some sites but very, 247 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:22,600 very nice models. Yeah, it's out that it sounds 248 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,000 like it's a it's it's something from like maybe mid 80s or 249 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 something like that. Yeah 8787. 250 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,300 Yeah yeah. I just have an 89 the golden age 251 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,100 at that. Do any, you know, do you know 252 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:37,100 anybody who actually plays Third Edition in Italy? 253 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,000 This kind of game, I really like the really ever played them. 254 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:44,900 I have the boxes, I have the books are the meanest, but I 255 00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:49,300 never tried to play. Well, hopefully, we can get you 256 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:55,000 in contact with the old Hammer community in Italy, because I'm 257 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,600 sure there is one because I know Pain. 258 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,200 Has their own old Hammer community, and of course, the UK 259 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,900 does. And usually every country has 260 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,900 some kind of Third Edition Community there. 261 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:10,300 So hopefully, we can get you in contact with those people 262 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,700 friends and so you can actually start playing the game that you 263 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:15,000 collect all these Miniatures for. 264 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:17,300 That'd be great to see. I have not gone to with the 265 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,400 player with all really hold a player. 266 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:22,200 We have to to create the movement. 267 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,200 I think you need to lie before. The sixth edition is very hard 268 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,600 to To find players. I think, I know someone is 269 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,100 trying fifth edition, but not the third, or the fourth or, or 270 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:40,200 the older game different from where I am. 271 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,900 And what games do you play these days? 272 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:46,300 Like at the moment what are your favorite games to play the last 273 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:48,300 year? They try and the road when I'm 274 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:52,900 around the world because of I have a kiss that he is a 10, he 275 00:20:52,908 --> 00:20:56,900 tried if you like it and we are playing underworld. 276 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,100 Now look yeah, yeah, it's very nice. 277 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,100 I have to admit it, I don't want to be here too, but the game is 278 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,500 really an art work. I think is very fast, is very 279 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:18,400 funny, it's very easy to play and it could be played as a 280 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:24,700 simple game or I think if you play competitive is more 281 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:28,700 complicated than warmer. Very nice. 282 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:36,300 But we are also playing with the heroquest combat rules with my 283 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:40,800 kids, 10 and 6. All the Imperial campaign 284 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,800 role-playing that all the, the old series of role-playing 285 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:51,300 campaign from warmer debt. Over a shadow over begin often 286 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:57,200 and for, because of the age of my son, we are playing with the 287 00:21:57,300 --> 00:22:02,400 Heroquest rules for the combats, with the dice special dyes, and 288 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:07,600 it's nice. We play sometimes, but they like 289 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,800 it and so on. I could read the story because I 290 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,500 had the collection, but I never read them. 291 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:21,300 And so I found a treasure in my, my home. 292 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,700 That's wonderful. So there you go. 293 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:26,500 You creating the community already with the kids so that 294 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:29,400 will remember all this stuff. And I have this big collection. 295 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,100 Ya later on that they probably will pick up and play with your 296 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:36,200 friends. Yeah, right. 297 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:37,800 Yeah. We love the old books. 298 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:39,500 Yeah. Me too. 299 00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:43,000 Ooh, I love the old books and actually some guy here in Japan. 300 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,300 Had posted a whole collection of role-playing books. 301 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:49,900 The old very first edition. Rock will have a role play. 302 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,400 Yeah but yeah though the prices were just way out of our reach 303 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,300 now which is a shame because I love all those old books that 304 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,500 are very nice. Yeah. 305 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,200 Very big dish. Yeah. 306 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,200 And the internal artwork is just amazing. 307 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000 I'll just buy it for that because into my work sister 308 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,500 awesome. It was like a bee. 309 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:15,900 Some years ago, 15 years ago, the price was very low for this 310 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:23,900 kind of books. I do I think the Facebook Market 311 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:30,300 didn't exist eBay I really don't know 15 years ago but in Italy 312 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:36,000 you could find some first edition book for few years, 20 313 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,800 years Spotify. Yeah and so I bought all this 314 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:46,000 area during the time lucky you I never I never read a book just 315 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,800 now with the kids I started and they Great. 316 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:54,300 So, in future years, I take it. You are planning already for 317 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:58,900 next year, 2023 or this year. Sorry, it would be 20, 22 maybe 318 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:01,300 or 2023. You're planning a next old 319 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:05,800 Hammer, Italian, Italy event. Sorry, yeah, I told you that, 320 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:11,900 you know, ghosts need to see, organizer asked to create an old 321 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:16,500 a corner, but it will be more than a quarter because they want 322 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:23,300 tournaments that like 22 also have more dime tournament and 323 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:31,500 open tables for free games. We play and painting competition 324 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:37,700 and Export Market Zone. All the old a event again in 325 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:43,800 international because it is, he is really I think the most 326 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,800 important International war on terror. 327 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,500 Games events for tournament and it's nice because the ninth 328 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,500 Edition. Right? 329 00:24:55,500 --> 00:25:01,400 Age were honor between behind the old. 330 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,800 The old armor would be nice. I think. 331 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,300 Yeah. If you can get more people 332 00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:15,200 playing the older editions than the say that now we are asking 333 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:21,900 to the international. Teams to to ask their Country 334 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:25,600 For Old a player. So we could try to make 335 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,000 international order more events and tournaments. 336 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,400 Let's see. External users Rock today, 337 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,000 right? Yeah, if people were interested 338 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,500 internationally or within Italy, what's the best way of getting 339 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:42,900 in touch in touch with you? Is there a special group on 340 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:45,200 Facebook that you have that you run for that? 341 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Sure for me with Facebook but also with Facebook page ATC 342 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:56,200 Italia pasado. So they could ask directly to 343 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,400 the organizer for hotel for accommodations. 344 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,900 For for all. I will just organize the 345 00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:09,300 tournament and I will have the information from the ATC 346 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,600 organizer. It's not a problem, okay, that's 347 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,000 what they could have all the information in with just one 348 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:16,600 context. Great, okay. 349 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Well, I'll put the in Put some links Below in the show notes, 350 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,300 so people who are interested, can click on those and follow 351 00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:28,300 them. You you later, my phone is gone. 352 00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:32,200 That's a that's my latest problem. 353 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,300 But yeah, be good for people to get to prepare themselves. 354 00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:38,600 If they want to go and to find out more information about the 355 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,600 event itself, and when it's being held and what games being 356 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,100 played, and that kind of thing, they might just want to turn up 357 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:45,900 this. If there's a big trade trade 358 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:49,400 whole thing, they might want to turn up to, Can you know have 359 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,900 something nice to eat and drink and socialize and get some good 360 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:58,300 trades on the day, who knows? Yeah, it's very important for 361 00:26:58,300 --> 00:26:59,700 and will dominate event in my opinion. 362 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:01,600 Yeah, me too. I think so too. 363 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,700 It's really the bar and the restaurant and also the lunch is 364 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:11,100 not the usual launch of a tournament. 365 00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:17,400 Now, 10 minutes as neck, go to play, it was a real lunch, one 366 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,500 hour. The table. 367 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,600 We finished thermite, very last very, very tight o'clock in the 368 00:27:26,608 --> 00:27:32,100 afternoon because of the lunge pose but it was good. 369 00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:35,400 I think yeah we got time to actually sit down, enjoy your 370 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,500 meal and yeah have a good chart of what that more events I think 371 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,600 and of course you're in Italy. I mean, you know, you know the 372 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,800 heartland of good food mates. Oh yeah, yeah. 373 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:47,300 No it's good wine. Good wine as well. 374 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,900 Yeah, I'm there. Halfway there. 375 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,300 All right. Well, that's great friends. 376 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:52,800 Thank you very much for coming on today and sharing your story 377 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,300 and telling them were in Japan. Japan. 378 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,600 Yeah. Well, this myself and a couple 379 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,700 people make. That's it. 380 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:04,700 That's, that's right. We're gonna have something. 381 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Yeah. Yeah. 382 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,200 If we can organize some kind of trip over to Italy, I'll be 383 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,300 there because I've got, I've got three cousins which are Italian, 384 00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:18,300 which I haven't seen since. Wow, I don't know since I was 385 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:22,500 six years old, so be great to go and visit them and visit Italy, 386 00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:26,900 and take my family over be great, but it's a great. 387 00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:31,000 Yeah, but yeah, we can only dream, we can only drink a sure. 388 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:35,300 It's yeah, be lovely to go over there and well, see your 389 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:39,400 wonderful country experience of food and, and great wine and 390 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,800 maybe pop over for a tournament. If if, if everything works out. 391 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,900 But yeah, you don't believe me. Something about Japan. 392 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,100 Yeah. Yeah, we can, we can do it. 393 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,000 We can do it doing like an exchange thing. 394 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,200 Where, you know, I come over there. 395 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,000 Or you come over here like to come? 396 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,700 Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Be good, man. 397 00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,900 Yeah, it's in the list. Well, I would love to have, I 398 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:02,100 would love to do something like that. 399 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:07,600 Like, have like an old Hammer, Japan event, but I, I would, you 400 00:29:07,608 --> 00:29:10,900 know, if we did it, it would mainly consists of foreign 401 00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:12,800 players. I don't think many of the 402 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,900 Japanese players would come, I think, because, you know, G 403 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,900 Doubles introduced during 95-96 in Japan. 404 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:26,200 So 5th edition was the very first translated box that they 405 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,300 had here. And, you know, no one plays 406 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,100 fifth edition in Japan to my knowledge. 407 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:36,900 I think only one person that I can think of has a collection of 408 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:41,000 fifth edition models and stuff, but I think if they were running 409 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,300 anything, it will be modern Games Workshop stuff. 410 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,500 But we could, we could sort of cater for the modern than the 411 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:49,600 old and that kind of thing. If you're doing something here 412 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,600 but yeah, he knows. Okay Reba thanks it was a 413 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,500 pleasure but it's a good good. Yeah, really good to catch up 414 00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:00,300 with you. I really hope that this event in 415 00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:04,400 Italy grows and grows and becomes bigger each year and 416 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,900 more people come out and know about it and hopefully, yeah, 417 00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:12,000 this interview will get you a few more people signed up to 418 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,800 come this year back. So all the very best. 419 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,200 Enjoy your games of will hammer and roll playing with the kids 420 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:18,800 and Care. Really. 421 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,300 Thanks.