Hello everybody, thank you again for tuning in for another Gorg
talk this week and hope you guys are really doing well.
This is the 1st of April so I can see blue sky, which is
wonderful to see because we've had quite a rainy start to
spring and it's a lot more rain to come apparently.
So hopefully not, hopefully not all day.
Hopefully we'll have some breaks.
Nice blue sky and warm weather, but it's lovely to see all the
cherry blossoms now almost in full bloom and really
brightening up the place. And again, April's my favorite
time of the year, probably because of the sakura trees.
It's, I don't know, it's just the yeah, the change in the air.
It's just that changing coming out of the the cold winter into
a nice warmer climate. And I can put on my, my, my
thongs and T-shirt and shorts on again, not a thong, but thongs.
They beat sandals. Just get that thought out of
your mind now, please, guys, if you especially if you're eating
something. So yeah, beat sandals on shorts
and T-shirt. That's the way I like it.
Nice and casual. Very Aussie.
And yeah, no, it's just a nice time to, you know, get out there
and do things that you've probably been missing out on in
the in the in the, you know, the deep of cold winter.
So an army parties and, you know, going on trips or whatever
and a lot of gaming. So I was really happy and
fortunate to go down to the game store on Sunday to meet up with
James at JVC paints. Really nice guy.
And we got to play some Test of honor.
So it was the first time we got to play Test of Honor, I think
since last last summer time, I think.
I think when Nick was here was kind of the last time we ever we
played Testament from memory. Anyway.
It's been such a long time and it shows you how time has flown
by. So that was really good.
He whipped my ass both times. Now we're playing the campaign
narrative campaign for that. So we're recording lame
information and next time we get to meet up, he's going to show
me how to play Bold Action Second Edition and probably like
a small game of that and one another small game of Test of
Honor. We'll try to do it every every
quarter basically, because it's quite a hike for him to get
there and it's quite a bit of a hike for me to get there.
So we'll see how we go with that.
But yeah, I'm really glad to get that sort of started to get some
gaming in there. So thanks again, James and I
look forward to meeting up with you again, mate.
Having a few beers and rolling some dice.
So for you guys, let's have a look to see what you've been
working on over the last week or so.
I think we sort of touched on all the made to order stuff
that's been delivered to people's doors.
So it's good to see people are getting those, getting their
rock lobbbers, black orks and walk begins.
And people have been celebrating with photos and pictures of the
models, which were really nice and enjoy those guys, some
beautiful toys in there. Ted's working on some more Blood
Angel tactical Marines, and they look wonderful in that Monopo's
style and bright red. Blood Angel.
Well, I think it's black blood red, I think, isn't it?
From Nostalgia 94? But yeah, beautiful, vibrant
color schemes. Also, Matt's got a new case for
his cave squeak, his own little independent case.
How special is that? So it's a his brother's friend's
gift. It's very nice of him.
Jim's working on some Imperial artillery with lovely red cannon
barrels and also white. Yeah, that's that's a really
cool looking scheme actually. I don't know if it's like a snow
type scheme or some other kind of camera scheme or whether it's
based around that sort of Necromunda or Necromundia Legion
or whatever that which Jim's working on really striking as an
army so far and Lee's working on his his advance your request
stuff. So it's been lovely to follow
that too. Now I, I can't remember if I
mentioned this last time guys, so I apologize if I'm repeating
this. It's quite possible that I am
repeating this, but again, Chris and all the other guys who who
enter the challenge, even those who dropped out, who've
maintained and stayed with the challenge and they've got their
thousand points of an army together.
So Chris has got his nice army shot of his wood elves.
So it's really nice to see with his commander, mage triads,
Archers, a giant eagle and board answers.
So it's really nice to see that. And I know Cameron's also
followed up with some pictures of his castles, which are
equally really impressive. Adam's got some beautiful night
goblins here on the bench or on his painting tray that he's
working through, which looks very reminiscent of EFA's Night
goblins, I think. Look really nice, mate.
So wonderful to see. I can see you're enjoying that,
that's for sure. And lost.
Ericsson's giving us a glimpse at Chainsaw Warrior now.
I did see this for sale here in Japan, and as you can play it
solo, it sort of attracts me to give it a go because that would
be nice just to show on the channel as well and playing
through a solo game of this. So I'll need to go and check if
it's still available, mate and see if it's still there.
Maybe there's some missing components.
I've got a feeling that's what the deal was with that one.
But I'm glad you're enjoying your time in lieu from work and
enjoying some of that. Good to see we don't know much
about it. I know it's some board game geek
as well, but basically he says it's a game that was made in
1987 by GW. It also it was also a solo game,
so maybe it's only a solo game. You basically have 69 minutes to
save New York from being destroyed by a chaos creature
known as the Darkness and his minions like zombies, chaos
agents, and mutant beasts. The clock countdown and the
random card generating sorry generating dungeon.
For what? For want if a better word make
for a tense game. I measure find and destroy the
Darkness this morning with only three minutes to spare.
I needed to roll an 11 or better on 2D6 to kill him in the last
round as a sorry with my last round of ammo and I rolled 12.
Doesn't get much closer than that.
That's great, so good to see you mate.
So it looks like a pretty intense game isn't it?
Maybe a lot of swearing on my part with dice rolling, that's
for sure. If it relies on intense dice
rolling, you're guaranteed of that.
Jim Bob's gone off and looking for some inspiration for his 6th
edition siege campaign is going to have with his friends and
he's gone somewhere in, sorry, Northumberland.
He's in Northumberland on holiday and he came across this
beautiful looking castle. Wow.
At Warkworth, Warkworth, Warkworth, Warkworth.
That's a, that's a good one. Warkworth Castle.
Definitely got an empire Britannian vibe about it.
Yeah, it's really impressive landmark, if anything,
historical landmark. So glad you're enjoying your
holidays, babe, even though I think he did comment to say
you've sort of freezing your bollocks off there.
I can just imagine how cold it is.
But it had beautiful blue sky that's in the background of that
castle. I got to say, Cameron's got his.
Yeah, we talked about that a little bit before anyway, but I
know a lot of these guys have finished their challenges.
But he's got his picture of his now completed red Taurus or
great Taurus, which is awesome to see.
And 80s putting together or frustratingly putting together
semantic cores. These must be from the epic 40K
range I presume. Or Armageddon that came later,
but looks like they're coming together nicely now, mate.
And it may be that the missiles are separate by the 1st and
second photo, so that's interesting.
Don't know why they did that, but yeah, I thought that would
have been just better just having all of them all together,
all in the same piece on the same model.
That's a weird one. Now, if I didn't mention it
previously, the royal Orc was held at the bedroom Battlefields
Discord. And I woke up while I was
already awake actually before it started at 5:00 AM.
And we got to do this kind of like a you sort of you choose
one of the characters listed in in the in the forum post or in
the Discord post. And if you're lucky enough to
grab a character, which I was a great angry mind fist, no one
had taken him as yet. And Mark posted something about
to say like, you know, if you want to and if you want to get
involved, you know, pick a character and come and join us.
It's really cool event that David ran for us that day.
And he was sort of kind of organizing and and, you know,
doing the bouts between the two different characters.
And it's like a bit of a boxing match and of elimination.
Once you eliminated a character, you go through the next round
and you face the next challenger and blah, blah.
And to much to my surprise, and maybe some maybe seem
unbelievable to some people, but my dice rolls and those fuck
dice didn't fuck me over. So I actually managed to win it
incredibly. So I was very, very happy about
that. And to give the dwarves a bit of
a bit of a, yeah, resounding victory over all the nastiness
that they had there. I think they had the Green
Knight. I think Ted was doing the Green
Knight. I think he bowed out really
early, though. Akron Techless was in there.
Techless also bowed out really early, too.
What else? Who else was there?
Etcetera. And I'm missing some other ones,
sorry. But there was a few few nasties.
No greater demons, thankfully. But yeah, so my, I don't know
how many points he is in 4th and 5th edition now, because I'm
going by sort of Renaissance points.
I think he's 300 points in Renaissance.
I think he's about 500 or 600 points maybe in 4th and 5th
edition is really expensive, but that Akron models like 750
points or something like that. But he managed to overcome Akron
in the end to reach a title to grab the crown of command and
wear it proudly. So yeah, it was a good, good
event. So I hope we do something like
that again in the future. Los Ericsson's having fun with
all of his really early 80s old lead that he picked up in a job
lot and thought it wouldn't look too out of place in his already
now very well established second edition Chaos Army collection.
So he's got this. Looks like a troll.
Troll disciple master says here holding a whip and if there if
there's a whip, there's a way that's right.
And he's going to whip his chaos acolytes into a verberous
bloodlust, no doubt. So yeah, nice looking, nice
little war band you couldn't get putting there together mate.
So thanks again for the history lesson because again, I think a
lot of us, including myself, have never seen these models
before. So if anything, it's this great
little account of seeing modern day paint jobs on all these
classic models now, which are well into their almost 40th
year. And they must be really soft
metal too, presuming A and they're actually lead.
These would be these, these ones would contain lead.
So don't, don't eat your, don't eat a Danish while you're
putting these together mate, when you're cleaning them up
because you could find yourself feeling a little bit underwell.
So you're always going to be careful about that.
Ted's working away again on his Blood Angels, absolutely
sublime. So I can really see he's
enjoying doing that project now and we look forward to seeing
more updates on that. Lee is got his crew of four
adventurers now done. These are the prototype metals,
these painted up, which look absolutely glorious.
So well done Lee, you've ticked another little milestone there
made in your Warhammer advent or advance your request adventures.
So we look forward to seeing a video for that on the beneath
the flagstones YouTube channel at some point in the future with
an update. Now Matt's got his Matt's got
his painting desk arranged. I don't know how he paints on
that. It's it's incredible to see, but
he's got his wall colors box there I see in the background
and looks like he's he's always got gadgets around Matt.
He loves his gadgets. He's a gadget man.
So that's good to see you're enjoying your hobby time, mate,
when you've got time there with Mr. Jett and I forget the other
cat's name, Missus Jett. Maybe I forget Shiro.
That's Adam. He's got his undead models
painted, some crossbowmen and some cavalry.
And he told us that he has a YouTube channel.
So I put a link in here. I'll put a link in the show
notes. If I remember.
It's called the LED, not a LED adventure.
What was it called again? The LED realm.
So I did check out a couple of videos there over the weekend
just briefly and really nice sort of modern sort of style,
kind of, you know, presentation and but very, very well produced
videos and great some great painting tips using contrast
paints. We did all those undead models.
So if if that would be of interest to you, I'd certain
definitely take on what check it out.
At least follow his painting and sort of model painting army
collecting video guide and blog as he collects all the models.
He's actually got all the entire undead army assembled and based
and everything. Now he's just going through
paste painting them up. So it's going to be for the doom
of the Revenge Lord. Sorry, Revenge of the Tomb Lord.
I'll put that ass about. And also just as a huge
collection of undead miniatures that is accumulated over the
years. So yeah, it's really nice to
just follow the progress and look forward to seeing more of
that in the future. So well done, Adam, and good,
good. Good to see how that's coming
along, mate. Matt's got a classic English
dinner, baked beans, fried egg, sausages and chips with some
tomato ketchup and a beer in the Hop Goblin glass.
So he doesn't get more British than that, does it?
Classic stuff Had that went down, mate.
Well, without any without any reflux at the end of it.
And Los Ericsson's also entertaining us with some more
history lessons here from Citadel on some pre slaughter
Vikings, which look really nice actually.
Again, I don't know, I've never seen these models before.
Maybe they're actually that's at Foundry, War Games Foundry.
Maybe you can still buy those models.
I don't know. It's quite possible actually.
And I did have the intention of opening up the the hobby
hangovers to everybody, the free members as well.
But again, we've had that same dickhead coming in and trying to
sell a MacBook to people and getting people's details and
emailing them, all that kind of stuff.
So again, I had to just revert it back to only paid patrons.
So that's a shame. You know you want to do the
right thing, but then you've got Dicks on the Internet so
unfortunately you just can't or they're bots or something or
whatever. So that's, that's unfortunate.
Tony's got a lovely banner that he's painting up with some very
awky looking glyphs, and Sula Fox also has a wonderful
collection, very vibrantly painted too.
I think he might be using a lot of contrast paints in painting
up these classic CC series. Scaven and his heroes for his
adventures. That's either dwarf there
though, so maybe the dwarf is the last one to paint perhaps,
and he's got that classic cave troll.
I've got one of these as well to do for our adventures in
adventure request. My God I wish I had more time,
more time in my life. Maybe I should just go to
contrast paints and get things done a lot quicker.
Seems like the right way to go. I might have to give them a go
actually. Like seriously, give them a go
for inks of anything. Get some express fillet of
paints the and use them as inks, ink washes and stuff like that.
I definitely have some epic squats I want to do with with
that contrast method in the future as well.
Adam's got some red ballooned fanatics here, which look
absolutely charming. So Red Nose Day in the old
world, you've got red bald phonetic day for the phonetics.
So it looked great. Great mate.
And Matt's piped in here as well.
So you and Matt are going this in unison now with your night
Colin Army. So you've got a lot to catch up
on because Matt's well ahead of you, mate.
So he's got some arches he's showing off and he's got some
plastic walk Bowman that he's picked up as well from maybe
eBay or something. So that's great to see some army
picks there of his staff. And we have John Phillips got
some nice historical stuff here as well.
These are Norman Knights, I believe.
Yeah, finish the Knights from the Norman War Band.
A bunch of spin to do next. Yeah, great to see.
Wonderful. I love to see all that kind of
stuff as well. I think I've painted a lot of
these for my mate Jack. I'm painting some stuff up for
now actually. I've got a ballista to do for
him too this month on the painting Commission desk.
But yeah, I painted a lot of these guys up many years for him
ago, a lot of these Norman Knights and stuff like that.
Great models. And Jim's, he says, ready to
prime, I think, ready to varnish.
I think maybe on his command on then onto the command unit for
his ballistic and not ballistic. His ballisters.
What are the other ones called? I forget there's so many
different names of the imperial tanks and not all that burst up
on it, but loads of different types of artillery he's got
lined up there. Matthias has also finished the
call of the Crown challenge so well done to you mate.
He's got his last entry for March, which are some, I don't
know, dagger sword welding guys. I can't remember the name of the
regiment looked really nice though.
Really nice metallic metals on there.
Non metallic metals and he's got a lovely.
Final photo of all the stuff he's painted for the challenge,
which is great. Really cool to see.
John Phillips also got his now this is pretty cool.
Maudean collection for Imperial Guard with great banners on
there and that's a huge collection of stuff.
So it was a nice surprise this week as he went through and
dusted off these old miniatures that he painted many years ago.
I haven't played 40K in years, but it is fun to dust these guys
off again for a photo shoot. Yeah, absolutely mate.
Really nice. And Matt's got his combat cards
out, his Orphan Goblin comic cards.
Nice 1 / a glass of Mackendrick's blended Scotch
whiskey. What man, The man's doing it in
style, that's for sure. And looks like Jim has finished.
I love all those banners on the command vehicles too, but it'll
be a really vibrant looking, you know, Imperial Garden.
I mean, that's for sure. Looks very nice indeed mate.
You're definitely holding up the the epic banner for all of us
that maybe aren't doing any epic at the moment, but definitely
inspiring many out there to do and pick up a brush and start
painting some epic stuff there as well.
Ted's got his final army pig done and sorted, which looks
lovely. All the greenskins he's painted
over the several months that we've been part of the
challenge, which I think the final one was those rivet
trolls, weren't they? So a little fantastic mate.
So well done to you mate. Excellent to see Ted somewhat
actually, yeah, on my YouTube channel for those who were
interested. He said I've he's basically time
stamped one of my really old videos between the orcs and the
sisters of battle. You know, it was a real, I think
maybe I don't know how many years ago, three years ago maybe
when we did that, me and Paul. So I don't even remember it.
But obviously a lot of a person with a lot of time, time on
their hands to do that. But thank you very much for
doing it. That's that's really nice to
see. I think Ed said you should have,
he should have time stamped all the times.
I swear it might die. So I think that's a good
suggestion. Actually, we should add that to
the comments and see what he says.
And bearded turtles. Ewan Cameron, he's back.
Haven't seen Ewan for a while. So he's got some BFG blast
markers. So are these official ones ready
printed ones? I have absolutely no idea.
I don't know much about Battlefleet Gothic, but looks
like he's enjoying putting these little blast markers together
and, and I don't know if you have to paint those or they just
see through like that. I'm not sure.
Again, I really don't know much about it, never played the game
myself. Matt Matthias has got his elder
army all now displayed here, probably for a future Cowabunga
painting challenge. No doubt he's going to slice
that pie into all that pizza, into different sections and
different squadrons and maybe run that as a, or you could do
that over a couple of painting challenges.
Maybe he's got enough stuff there.
So it's really nice to see. He's getting the old R out and
he has another dreadnought somewhere.
So yeah, he says it should be a solid force when it's all
painted up. He needs to get some more
sweeping Hawks and Wraith guards.
Yeah, I think it's only got 1 Wraith guard.
And how many sweeping Hawks has he got?
Not that many. In fact, I don't see any right
here now, but yeah, we'll need some of those just to flesh out
the army a bit more, but that's great to see.
Whilst well done, Ted's finished, his almost done, he
says of his tactical squad. Looks awesome with the decals on
there, the skulls on the knee pad, the sort of lightning bolt
sit Insignia on the side of the boot there as well.
The yellow blood drop and all the bolt guns are now in place.
Yeah, it's really coming together really nicely.
Ted, I'm really happy for you for this one.
It's one of my favorites so far in that in that cow bunga
challenge, that's for sure. And Lee has surprised us with a
very rare sculpt of the Wizard's Apprentice.
I've never seen this model before, but obviously it came
out during the time of the Terror of the Dark expansion for
Advancer request and I don't even remember seeing it because
I never had that book anyway. But obviously in the back it's
got the the profiles of all the different and like different
character types and stuff like that.
These will be like hench men and it must be featured in there.
But yeah, it must be very rare man, because I've never seen one
before. And hands, it's got this
gorgeously looking unit of hobgoblin hacks X-Men with their
Shields and also saying how professionally done it is.
And it's got like a little Ruth Pickles something holding up all
the Shields, then that's stuck into a piece of foam.
And he's, you know, done it really nicely.
All the Shields are on the sprues, which is something I
actually did as well. That's a good idea.
Like a nice little hold and frame to hold them into, which
is easy to clean up when you slip them out of the frame and
put some metallic paint on there.
Looking very nice indeed. And Jim Bob has got some classic
second edition play Marines, which is really nice to see.
Really lovely and very atmospheric paint jobs I must
say. Actually so.
Very good to see mate. And also, you've got some nice
Osprey books in the background there, I see.
Probably for bold action, no doubt.
And and. Then Ted's got them all done,
the Blood Angels are finished, so hurrah and then?
I saw this morning plus. Ericsson said we are about
influence when he went away for a long weekend with the wife and
came back with this. Most of the non miniatures
content is in the main box. So he's talking about Epic Space
Ring second edition here. Just missing a couple of
objective markers and the Warlord Titan template seem to
have a lot more buildings than the original set.
So sadly the war horde box wasn't complete but has a has
that is full of the original space rings from the box set.
Sadly the elder naughts and Titan are missing and a few
other assorted plastics, mostly dread noughts and chaos robots.
Still, for £50 it felt like a good an opportunity to pass.
So it felt like too good an opportunity to pass by.
It's going on the back burner for now as I have other projects
to go on it to get first, so it's great to see you've caught
the epic bug. And you've got an excellent.
Starter set of stuff there mate, so it's enough to keep you
occupied. Now, if you do need any help,
just let us know and we'll sort you out with, you know, what
you've got there once you get around to actually starting it
and we can see how much stuff you have and what kind of army
you can put together with it. And he's also followed up.
With another post because I know he's really busy with his with
his pre pre slaughter citadel project at the moment.
A really nice looking wizard there alongside the Vikings.
Very much a sword and sorcery type Merlin from Excalibur sort
of style looking wizard with his very cool looking cloak, I must
say. Lovely free hand on that.
And Jim as surprised again with another platoon of Imperial
Guardsmen. I love the color scheme.
Green uniforms, yellow helmets with a wonderful banner.
So that's going from strength to strength that project.
And Adam, a Doom, he's stuck in one and he's just just laying
around waiting for another for me to hang on.
Just waiting. Sorry.
Just laying around waiting for me banner to dry.
OK, so it looks like he's got his little gobbo banner.
Banner bearer here with a banner he's just recently painted up,
which looks absolutely beautiful.
Love all the rings poking through the bad moon here.
Yeah, so it's lovely. So excellent to see.
Adam. That project's coming along
beautifully for you, mate. Very happy to see.
Indeed. OK guys, well, that wraps up all
of the hobby hangovers. I hope you enjoyed me going and
covering all of that for you today.
And. Just in closing, I'm going to
add a little interview I had with a person on our discord.
He's sort of the youngest member, I think he's about 14
from member that's ZK on our Discord.
So I'm going to add that to the end of this Gork talk today.
So I hope you enjoy that little short interview.
With him today. And, and I'll start working on
some more podcasts. It's been a while, sorry guys,
that I've posted anything up here in terms of audio content,
but I do have at least, I think two or three in the bag now at
least. So I'll get cracking onto that
guys and get those up as soon as I can for you.
Thank you again for your patronage for March.
I really appreciate that. And I'm going to get stuck in
the work. I've got some things to do
before Friday before Max comes up with his man of war or fleet.
I've got the the skating fleet to get to get to to be done.
Can't talk obviously, as you can tell.
And I've got my I've got Scott's Baron's war stuff.
I want to finish off today as well and get a video up on the
swords and socket channel in the next day or so, and I've got the
terrain to do for. For next week's.
Battle report with the EPI when he comes up on Tuesday.
So I've got a lot of stuff to do in the org wive and probably be
the the focus point for this coming thank August Friday.
So guys look, I'll leave you with this short interview.
Hope you guys enjoy it and I will catch you again next time.
Thank you very much for listening and we'll see you next
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Thanks Zay for. Joining us today you're.
Welcome. Yeah, I appreciate that, mate.
So we recently got to chat on Discord and I talked with you
and Aaron on there and, and I could hear in your voice you
sound a lot younger than we did. So I, I, I posed the question,
how old are you? And he said you were 14 mate.
Yep. Wow.
OK, so now that's even younger. Than when I actually got into to
the hobby back in 1990 or 1989, I was I think 17 or 16 when I
got into the hobby. So yeah, that's amazing that
you've discovered it. So how about we talk about what
about about yourself and how you actually discovered these?
How, how you actually discovered war gaming and toy soldiers and
that kind of thing. Oh.
Yeah, sure. So I believe I was like nine
years old and I was very interested in the military
history. So I was really into just like
the, the model kits for like Tiger tanks and airplanes and
the like. I forgot what they're called,
like Airfix. Oh yes, Yep.
Stuff like that. And I like I loved army men for,
for my childhood, like when I was like 5 and to nine years
old. So I started started getting
into historicals. So the first game I think I
played was a bolt action because I was just interested in the
models at first. I don't think I knew.
There was a game either behind Bolt action until I got a until
I got more into it, right. So yeah, historicals, I'd say
mainly credit. What?
What was your? First faction in bolt action
then or army I? Believe it was the Italians.
I could be wrong though. All right.
Yeah, OK. That's an.
Interesting choice what what made them so special during
World War 2 I just. Found them.
Kind of like the underdogs and more interesting and I.
Did more like. A African theatre like a themed
cool. Actually I I quite.
Like that theatre, you know, the, the camouflage and all that
kind of thing. And the, the Germans look so
cool in that camouflage as well. And camouflage.
Yeah, and I feel like it's not. As as talked about, you know,
doesn't get it like the Stalingrad treatment.
Yep. Yep, that's true.
OK, that's good. So I I.
Think I can hear you sort of tinkering and rattling around
the background? What are you working on at the
moment? So I just finished two of my
second edition of Orc Goth Boys and now I'm working on my my
last silver helm, right? Yes, and I have.
To send off those two silver Helms to you either today or
later this week so you can complete.
The silver. Helm unit there.
So it's really nice to see you you you're sort of collecting
the the older editions that I truly love to the 4th edition
box set and the second edition 40K box set.
So how did that all come about? So I believe I was I think 8
years old and I found I walked into a GW not it was it was a
hobby store I think. I don't think it was a, it
wasn't GW licensed, but it was a hobby shop within a comics,
trading cards and stuff like that.
And I went there 'cause I wanted some odd like Marvel Zombies.
I don't know if you know what that is.
Comics. So I went in there looking for
comics. Then I saw a bunch of a models
and I was like, Oh yeah, these look cool.
And I kind of just like lumped them in with like other things
that I hadn't played like, oh, that's got to be like Alien and
Predator or something like. Yeah, so this was around the.
Tail end of 8th edition, maybe, maybe ninth was already
happening, but still 8th edition books being sold, but probably,
probably probably on clearance. Yep, that's.
The that's. The way that.
Sort of they turn a churn and turn around additions these
days. So it must be very frustrating
for people who are playing games of current Games Workshop to
have all those meta changes and all the rules changes.
And I think they're going to 11th edition or something now
for what I hear. But luckily I'm not in that
game. I'm still stuck in 1991 and 1992
and I feel much. Better.
For it to be honest. And no rule changes.
Yeah, no rule changes. And you know, it's funny because
today I was talking to Chris about doing this epic little
epic mini campaign we're putting together and we're going back
into White Dwarf issue 172 to play out some scenarios that we
haven't actually tried yet. I've tried one of them.
But you know, you've got so much content in the old White Dwarf
issues with all the added, added articles and stuff to supplement
your game systems. You could play these games for
years and maybe not actually cover everything.
So that's one of the things you've got on your side there is
OK, you've got you're only 14 mates so you've got many years
ahead of you to explore many different kinds of way of ways
of playing and armies and stuff to play in 40K in fantasy, so.
Let's. Get down to the So you, you, you
just, you went to the Games Workshop.
Did you discover? Like did someone sell you these
box sets or did you have to go out and try to find them on eBay
or something like that? So.
Originally I got into like 8th edition, so I was playing 8th
edition and 9th for a while. So when I walked into there, I
think the old like Orc paint set was being sold for like 8th
edition with the the boys that were I I quite like those boys
actually. Yeah, think the the 6th edition
they're released but the GW kept them for a couple of years.
They were in the the. Starter set with the
Ultramarines I believe they've always got.
Ultramarines. Haven't they?
Is that like they post the boys still?
Yeah. So.
I collected for 8th and 9th and did that for a couple of years
and then I sort of fell out of love with the hobby.
I had a couple of armies and I sold most of my armies on on
eBay and just kind of moved on with it.
OK, well, what was the what? Was the thing that got you back
into it then. So I don't know if you know who
Midwinter Minnie's is. He's a pretty big YouTube.
Yeah, yeah. So I saw his video of him
opening the second edition box set and I was like Oh yeah that
looks it looks pretty cool. So I bought a thing amount of
post plastic space marines and started painting them up.
And that was. Thinking I think a year ago, OK,
well that's a good this. Is a good, This is a good
question maybe for you because you've entered the hobby into
the multi plastic in multi part plastic sprues and all that kind
of thing. We've got a booklet instruction
set and that kind of thing. I've, you know, I put down, I
put together modern miniatures and sometimes it became can be
quite intimidating. How did you find the difference
between that and all the plug in, you know, two piece Marines?
When I bought mine, they were, they were already assembled.
Oh, there you go. So I didn't.
I didn't get that kind of experience until later when when
I bought my my Orcs. Gotcha, second edition.
Yep. Well then the Gretchen, the One
Piece, and then the orcs just had the bolt around.
Didn't they separate? And of course, the base.
So that must have been much more, much as like someone who's
probably just getting into and not necessarily starting into
the tabletop hobby, but certainly for painting and
everything, that must be a much bigger relief having such
smaller amount of parts to put together.
Yeah, I. My bit my bit box is certainly
certainly smaller, but they were way easier to assemble and
stuff. Wonderful.
OK, that's great. Now, is it just the 40K second
edition and 4th edition box that they have?
Do you have any other games? I also have Gorgon worker.
Cool. Yeah, we talked about.
That yesterday, didn't we Gorkamwalka and you were hoping
that I could bring that to the channel at some point.
And we saw I've never played it, but I think looking at the way
that Richard and I don't know if you know the bringing Battle
gaming YouTube channel, but Richard and Jason, they play
they played some of these Gorkamwalka scenarios.
So it looks like like we talked about just some trucks, some
boys and I can use the doctor Sport terrain here and we can
probably get the rules somehow either as PDFs or as actual
physical copies and. Apart.
From that I think it's just second edition 40K rules.
Apart from that, yeah, vehicle. Rules.
Yeah, yeah. Vehicle rules, yeah.
They're very similar to a. 2nd Ed.
Yep, OK. Well, yeah, we'll have to have a
look into it. And thank you for for for
suggesting it, because I've never really had that on my
radar. So it's something I should
really try. As it's a 90s game, we should
definitely give it a go. So.
Yeah, I find it. More fun to play the Necromunda.
To be honest, I think Necromunda is very similar to it, but I
like the vehicle aspect a lot. Yeah, I suppose the modern.
Necromunder has gone that way. They've gone into the vehicles
and it's, you know, they've got a mix of the two.
I guess now I'm looking at it but.
I like. The theme better.
The Gorka Moka theme, I like the theme more that we've got all
clans fighting each other like in a Mad Max world, you know?
So it's the theme sort of grabs me a little bit more than
Necromunder, if I'm being honest.
So yeah, OK, we'll have to look into that and see how we go get
some grots and boys together and and then you've got the Digger
Knob expansion. Did you got the?
Have you got the Digger Knob expansion at all?
Oh no, I. Haven't I haven't been
interested in them right now just mostly building up my my
boy gangs of orcs and grots. But I do want to get to them
eventually. Are you?
More of a 40. K sort of person or more of a
fantasy type guy? Oh God, I, I don't.
I don't think I could pick. Honestly, I I really don't think
I could pick. OK, I mean.
I I. I really enjoy certain aspects
like 40 Ki think is more more forgiving to paint than fantasy,
but I like fantasy's rules a little bit better.
Right, OK. So yeah, like I think we talked
about this yesterday too. You haven't actually played
these games as yet. Yeah, no, I.
Have not played. I played one.
I played one game of fantasy but it was a very short one and then
second edition 40K. I've just read the rule books a
ton of Times Now so I could probably play a game.
Oh, that's good. That's.
That's definitely. Something I want to do, would
you be interested in? Playing a remote game with one
of the guys here on discord. Yeah, me and me and.
Chris set up a Space Hulk game. She'll be on Friday.
Excellent. OK, well, I'm happy to hear
that. And that's nice.
That way you can you can actually experience the games,
but not actually have it in quite physically in front of
you. Just roll the dice and someone's
moving the miniatures around. So I think that might be a
really good way of getting into it as a little little gateway in
for you. And that way you can learn the
games, and when you do find someone who's interested in
giving it a go, you're already prepped and ready to roll, you
know? So that'll be good.
Yeah. I'm hoping to find someone more
and just hopefully find someone in my area at least.
Yeah, I've. Noticed on discord you did post
up for any players in the. Now this is the New York City
area of the US that. You're in more upstate.
More upstate, but right, Yeah, OK, well, if.
You're listening to this. And you're in the upstate areas
of New York City. Get us get in contact with ZK on
our discord and hopefully you can meet him somewhere at A at a
game store to play some old retro games of 40K or fantasy
together. That'd be really good.
I'd like to see. That yeah, that's that's the
dream. Here, Yeah.
So how about with the painting? Now you've shown us some
pictures of all the stuff you're painting at the moment.
Are you using sort? Of modern GW paints or have you
got a selection of different kinds of paints?
I'm just sort of curious about how people enter the hobby
nowadays, how they get into the painting process of things.
So I. Never sold my paints from when I
was in 8th and 7th. Not 8th, not 7th, 8th and 9th.
So I still had a majority of my paints, but another really good
resource that I found was a midwinter minis video for speed
painting works with contrasts and then Dred paints.
Also another very good creator. He has a lot of good videos on
scathing. So that's those words just said,
you know, recommendations for what type of pants I should use
and what ones provide good coverage and have good colors
for that sort of 90s vibe. Yeah, cool.
Yeah, I. Like mix style when he used a
lot of contrast paints to get all those really nice effects on
his miniatures, which is yeah, can certainly.
Speed. Things up for you, that's for
sure. So that's good.
I'm glad you're getting some inspiration from Youtubers out
there because. That would be the.
Sort of. The way that people.
Would approach the hobby nowadays.
They could just go and find online to find a video, get some
good examples, tips and hints and off they go.
That's great, yeah. So just he the Youtubers I think
provide good examples of what like like when I got into the
hobby, I wanted like a contrast for work flesh, but I couldn't
really find one. And then a couple of Youtubers
used what's it called, got ripple flesh, which is a
contrast for a more lighter green skin look.
Right, OK, cool. Well, I'll have to give them a
go. One day I need to give the Valeo
what they called speed paints I think.
I think they're called speed paints I.
Can't remember now any I'll have to give them a go.
I'm, I'm, I'm curious because I like, I would like to try the
yellows and oranges and and those kind of hues of colors.
I think that would really work nicely on on like a.
Bone or a? White underlay on a model for
Epic maybe would be good for textures and stuff like that.
Would be really nice for flat open surfaces.
I don't think that work really well because like if you have
like Space Marine armor, it's just not going to work so well.
But if you've got like nice textured, nice textured areas, I
think the contrast would work perfectly for that, yeah.
Yeah, cool. The army painter Actually they
have AI. Think a set you can buy that
comes with a bunch of main primary colors for speed
painting. OK.
Right I've. Heard about them as.
Well, yeah, there's so many different paint ranges out out
there at the moment. Yeah.
But being in America, you have probably a lot of big stores
that carry many different kinds of products that you can you can
get, which is really good for. You surprisingly not.
I only have AI, have a GW store which is 46 minutes away, and
then I have a local hobby shop which is 32 minutes away and
they're both relatively tiny. OK.
But you could. Like online online stores, you
can buy stuff online. I guess we had to.
Yeah, online. Is pretty good here.
Yeah, yeah, online is really good.
OK, so. With just going back, just
backtracking a little bit when you sort of got into the bold
action scene and everything. Did.
You enjoy like the the sort of
social aspects of getting together with guys and and
friends and playing and rolling dice and that kind of thing.
I I did, I really did. Bolts action was more social,
but even in my area, Bolts action isn't really played.
There's only a handful of players, maybe like 1-2 or
three. So I've played a couple of games
of that, but the rule set is, I think, way easier.
So you can just sort of convince people to play it, like even
people who have never played a war game in their life.
Yeah, that's that's true. I mean, you're not alone.
I think there's a lot of people in isolation who are into gaming
and miniature painting and that kind of thing and struggle to
find people to. Play games with.
So I think our Discord is a really nice breach for that
where you can locate players or you can alternatively, you know,
have a remote game with somebody and try something out.
Yeah, I think it's a. Really great.
Like also a resource for figuring out like for like what
models is which like certain scopes and stuff.
And just, I do think it's a good resource and everyone is very
helpful, yeah. Yeah, we've got a.
Great community of people there. To help you out and that kind
of. Thing which is good yeah nice OK
well that's great well was able I I think we've pretty much
wrapped up everything for today in our interview so thank you so
much again for coming on today we.
Wish you all the best. Of luck.
And I hope that you enjoy your game of space Hulk this Friday
with Chris and let us know how that how you got on with that
and and we just hope we can find a player for you.
That's maybe around your around your age someone who's, you
know, in high school or whatever or middle school and.
That would be interested. In giving, giving those games a
try. So best of luck for you, Zay.
Thank you. OK mate, take care.
Thanks. Thanks a lot.
Take care. Josh, have a good day.
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