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Look, guys, thank you very much 
again for joining us today. 

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I know it's sort of in the 
middle of your daytime or 

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afternoons there over in the UK 
or Germany or wherever you might

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be. 
But we've got a bit of a special

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here for the podcast and the 
Craner command talking all about

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bring out your lead because it 
was a bit of a special event 

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this year in 2023 as it was the 
last time it was going to be 

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held at the the venue at the 
Foundry, the War Games Foundry. 

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And I really wanted to ask you 
on to as some of you, it's your 

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first time to ever attend the 
event so that we can get more of

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a sort of a, I don't know, 
visual description, you know, 

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mental description of. 
And, you know, just to try to 

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imagine what it's like walking 
through the the big sort of 

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arched, stable doors or whatever
they are at the front there and 

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walking in there and 
experiencing what bring out your

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lead is and what it's all about 
and why it's so, why it's such a

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popular venue for old hammerers 
and just war gamers alike. 

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So I thought maybe we could ask 
a few people here and Jack, I 

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think maybe we'll ask you mate 
1st and what was your 

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experience? 
Is this your first time to 

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attend? 
Bring out your lead. 

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This is my first time to attend.
I did actually a little bit of a

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scouting exhibition exhibition 
to the Foundry a couple of weeks

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before, just so I, you know, I 
could find a place. 

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But yeah, first time to bring 
out you there. 

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It's just fantastic. 
It really is. 

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It's like being a very festival 
sort of atmosphere, very, very 

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friendly. 
Yeah, they're really, really 

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pleasant. 
I kind of wish I'd gone previous

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years actually, in kind of 
necessarily knowing people there

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is going to have a game. 
I kind of didn't go before. 

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And then, no, it's absolutely 
great, really, really friendly 

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place, you know, really 
fantastic. 

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And the foundry obviously limits
the time to go see it now. 

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But it's worth a pilgrimage and 
it's right and right because the

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kind of model collection there 
is, you'll see things you 

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recognize. 
So it's quite peculiar seeing 

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things you've seen in old white 
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Just so I sat there on display 
and that's it's really, really 

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great, excellent. 
I'm glad everyone had positive 

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experience. 
I think anybody who goes to 

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bring out lead comes away 
feeling that they, you know, 

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they had wished they'd come, you
know, many years before that. 

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So that's really good that you 
had a really good experience. 

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Now clan did. 
Is it your first time? 

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Either you're a veteran now. 
No, it's my first time as well. 

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Yeah, I I only found out about 
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I could have gone last year. 
I was just. 

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I found about just in time. 
But I had a wedding to go to 

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instead, my brother in law's 
wedding. 

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So this was my first time, Yeah.
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Well, yeah, as arched, it's just
such a great setting for it, 

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such an old hammer setting for 
an old hammer event. 

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I mean, the carriage caught 
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I mean, it's like walking into 
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modeling workshop in White 
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In some ways. 
Like the area, like once you get

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off the main road into the 
village where it is and you walk

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up to it, it's just. 
Just down to like the huge oak 

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trees and stuff, you can kind of
it's you can kind of almost see 

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that maybe they went there 
because of all the themes they 

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were into. 
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something out of the 3rd edition
rule book. 

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It literally does. 
Actually, that's a really good 

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Durkin observation. 
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enjoyable that I think that kind
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was wonderful and that like you 
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Feel to it. 
It felt very yeah kind of family

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and you could like obviously I 
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and their kind of links and 
stuff but you could just you 

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could just pick up on that kind 
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Feel that you know this whole 
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been in and out of that family 
all the way along kind of stuff 

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like yeah seeing the stuff in 
the in the shop there wonderful 

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and that the the shop felt 
really like I like how the the 

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guy at the till is like. 
Nestled behind he's got a round 

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till desk in front of him, but 
on that they've got the original

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metal master of the polystar in 
Mighty Fortress and he sits 

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behind that as like his little 
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Yeah, seeing all the old stuff 
in the cabinets, it's fantastic,

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all the old. 
I love seeing the old like black

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lined like war bands from from 
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Like I I saw some of the. 
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they had the. 
Steal occults hybrid like the 

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Ork hybrids that they once did. 
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The jeans steal the limo. 
Everything in that real clear 

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black lining, bright color thing
that, yeah, it was like looking 

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at those white dwarf pages for 
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kind of thing. 
And so Viking, we'll be all 

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glyphs and stuff on them. 
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Great place, really good. 
I know. 

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Yeah. 
They were just really welcoming 

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like I didn't. 
I almost quite quickly didn't 

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feel like it was my first time 
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By an Ansel there and stuff. 
She was just, she's really good.

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But. 
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done because we had your little 
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She was like, straight away. 
She was like, Oh yes, we'll make

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this happen kind of thing in a 
real friendly way. 

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It was good. 
That that was incredible. 

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I can't believe that was a 
thing. 

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So getting Kev Adams to carve, 
carve your faces onto a goblin, 

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some absolutely fantastic. 
So yeah, my son's got a little 

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little goblin of his own. 
Wonderful, wonderful. 

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That's great guys. 
And I know that Marcel, it was 

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your first trip as well. 
You travel internationally from 

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Germany to the UK to visit, 
bring out your leg for the very 

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first time. 
So what was your first 

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impression, man? 
Yeah, as the guy said before, it

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was really friendly atmosphere, 
like minded people all around 

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you. 
You could just stop by a table 

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looking, asking questions. 
Everyone was forthcoming. 

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And the staff from the Foundry 
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helpful. 
I'm really happy I restrained 

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myself of buying historical 
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has a lot of ranges for that, 
and seeing all the display cases

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with the old Games Workshop 
miniatures there was just mind 

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blowing. 
It was good to. 

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Watched them again on Sunday, 
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more not so crowded because 
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And then I managed to get on my 
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shelves. 
You normally wouldn't do that if

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the shop is crowded and then you
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Terrain and miniatures at the 
bottom like all the old made 

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houses and and and St. treats 
from the White Wolf are there 

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and you could look at them from 
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have the room to move around a 
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really great and and also 
meeting Kev Adams was my 

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personal highlight because I was
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thing. 
But then the other guys did it 

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and I thought, come on, it's one
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charity. 
So I just grabbed A blister of, 

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I don't know, late medieval 
captains to get my face sculpted

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on one of them. 
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opportunity I have to take and. 
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and take my money moment that 
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Yeah, and the day before we went
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Just regarding the old hammer or
hero hammer stuff I'm interested

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in, Foundry was so much worth it
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world it was just one side of 
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there and that was the old 
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And the rest of course, I mean I
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want to sell. 
So if you're into the old stuff,

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visit the foundry. 
Definitely wonderful. 

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Okay, that's good. 
I'm glad you had a really good 

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first impression of visiting 
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well and visiting Lama World. 
So that's all. 

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Great that you can do that all 
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of each other because they're 
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But we also have a veteran of 
bring out your lead and that's 

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kettle trout. 
Kettle trout. 

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How are you going, mate? 
I am all right. 

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Thanks. 
Nice to be here, yeah. 

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Thank you very much for joining 
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So you've. 
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consecutive years, I take it. 
Yeah, to bring. 

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It. 
This year was the. 

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I think it's the fourth time 
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there are obviously people 
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longer than I have but yeah 
since since I first went I think

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in 2018 I've. 
I've made the effort to go back 

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each year and because of it's, 
you know, it's a really 

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enjoyable event and I've you 
know as well, in addition to 

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seeing lots of lovely old 
miniatures and games and people 

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doing. 
A lot of stuff specifically for 

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Boil, making custom boards or 
running scenarios that we don't 

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often see where I've made 
friendships of people that with 

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people that I've met there. 
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year we'll arrange to have a 
game or, you know, and we've 

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made some kind of enduring 
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the hobby, just from people that
I've met there again, which is 

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like prognosis saying it's a 
really open and welcoming 

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environment. 
Of like minded people and what 

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can be, you know quite a small 
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So yeah, that's I really enjoy 
it as an event. 

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I think Marcel makes a good 
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the three days from the Friday, 
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because of the number of 
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different character and you 
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busier generally. 
Which means there's a lot of 

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stuff going on, but maybe it's 
more difficult to see the the 

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foundry cabinets or you know, 
but there's less space and stuff

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to move around. 
So you should maybe appreciate 

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what Findry has to offer outside
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Better on Friday or this Sunday 
when there's more space to kind 

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of get in about stuff. 
I like that we had a kind of 

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Crown of Commands table as a bit
of a base camp for us, actually,

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that was quite handy. 
That makes a big difference as 

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well, definitely, yeah. 
That works out really well. 

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So Garthy does the table 
bookings as really good at 

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organizing that and trying to 
combine. 

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Disparate bookings and and sort 
of make sure you have access to 

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some you know the same table if 
you have consecutive things 

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booked and it's very good at 
adapting on on on the day to 

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find make it as convenient as 
possible for everyone who's 

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there. 
So if I can maximize the number 

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of people who are, you know, so 
that all the tables are 

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constantly in use but in the 
most efficient way possible. 

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So yeah, big credit to him for 
that. 

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So Yep, absolutely. 
Garth James being the main 

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organizer for bring out your 
lead since its conception and it

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would have been pretty emotional
I think at the end to say well, 

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not goodbye, but you know to 
say, you know this is the end of

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this time this 10 year tenure at
the War Games Foundry. 

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And of course they're going to 
move at some point into a new 

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location and and the bring out 
your lead event will live on in 

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another location and I I presume
within somewhere within 

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Nottingham as it's the lead belt
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going to be there somewhere. 
So yeah, I'm interested to know 

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what kind of games are being 
played there and about the 

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Chronic Command table and what 
games you guys played. 

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So Marcel, could you tell us 
about what games did you play on

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the Chronic Command table? 
I brought my dwarfs from Germany

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to bring out your lead, so I 
made just a small list and. 

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Because it's Dwarves, I don't 
have to bother with magic items 

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and such stuff, and I played I 
think 2 games, First was against

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Klem's Goblins, and I think the 
last game was also against 

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Klem's Goblins, but it. 
Yeah, and it was, it was really 

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fun. 
We had a we had a lot of fun 

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just rolling dice and it was not
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And also the atmosphere with the
other guys in the room, we were 

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located playing and having fun, 
but that was just cool. 

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And of course seeing the other 
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And sadly I missed one game 
where they played the. 

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This Prutonian Joust game from 
the White Wolf that was really 

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well made? 
Yep. 

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And sadly, I missed that. 
I only saw it and then it was 

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packed up. 
That was quite sad. 

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But yeah, okay, maybe next time.
And I. 

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Think I, said Martel. 
They're planning to bring it 

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back next year, so there you. 
Go. 

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Yeah, even better. 
Okay and. 

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For me, yeah. 
Not to highlight, but really 

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nice to see because I just sat 
next to the table and watched. 

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It was a game of what's it 
called? 

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Starfleet Battles, the 
forefather of Battlefleet, 

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Gothic and Space Fleet. 
Yeah, yeah, Starfleet is the 

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Star Trek thing. 
Yeah, Space Fleet. 

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And that was just great because 
the rules were so weird 

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compared. 
To. 

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Newer GW rules because you had 
to roll in that box lit with 

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your V6 and making critical hits
and stuff like that. 

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And it was just a fun to watch 
because there was a chain 

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reaction with explosions and 
suddenly half the board was 

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empty because all the ships just
exploded. 

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Yeah, that was really, really 
nice to see because you don't 

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see that game I think very 
often. 

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And just a quick shout, I know 
you mentioned the Protonian A 

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Jousting game and you and 
Cameron, he actually emailed me 

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because he helped me out with a 
scan of one of the GW catalogs, 

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the Red Catalog to make a 
T-shirt print at some point And 

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he would like to, he would, he 
wanted to join us this evening. 

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But I said mate, I think we've 
just got too many people and it 

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might be just a little bit 
crowded, you know, in terms of 

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voices and you know, people 
wanting to talk and that kind of

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thing. 
So I might bring them but him 

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and his friend on at some point 
as a Bring Out Your Lead Part 2 

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podcasts at some point in the 
future. 

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But he said it would be a great 
honor if you can mention us and 

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the game that we played at Bring
Out Your Lead. 

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I did see pictures of it looked 
absolutely amazing. 

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It instantly reminded me of Dave
Andrews, the diorama he made I 

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think for Games Day at one point
during the 90s. 

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And then it became a White Dwarf
game that you could you could 

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get an access through White 
Dwarf magazine. 

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So yeah, it would be really nice
to have seen that they look 

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really, really pretty on the 
table. 

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There's a lot of, a lot of the, 
I mean, This is why we do this 

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is because it looks like 
fantastic set up on the table. 

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But you could wander around and 
just look at just armies that 

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have been lovingly curated for 
kind of decades, I think in many

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cases. 
And yeah, there's a lot of going

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around just looking at. 
That the fantastic armies people

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have created of our own Mr. 
Kennel, I suppose we call you, 

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not right amongst the top of 
them, seeing something that's 

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been first hand. 
It was a pleasure really and 

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haven't seen them on the 
discord. 

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So thank you. 
Can you tell us about what army 

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you brought today to the event 
and what games you played on the

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day? 
So over the course of the 

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weekend I ended up mainly 
playing third edition fantasy, 

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which is kind of really my main 
interest. 

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I brought an Goblin army and a 
Thimmer army with me, and yeah, 

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over the course of the weekend 
can switch those in the night. 

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I also ended up playing a bit of
bunging bowl. 

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On Sunday, which was like a nice
change of pace, and I played a 

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bit of Blood Bowl previously, 
but I never played Dungeon Bowl,

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so it was interesting. 
It's good fun, Yeah, that sounds

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amazing, mate. 
So yeah, I mean, it's a pretty 

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broad church as sort of a term 
They use a lot now in war, 

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gaming, podcasts and that kind 
of thing. 

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But Bring Out Your Lead is not 
exclusive to 3rd edition of 

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course. 
It spans many generations of 

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games and different systems, and
I think even Garth said if you 

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want to play A to Sigma, just 
play A to Sigma. 

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Just book a table and start. 
Yeah. 

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I think it's very inclusive in 
that sense, yeah. 

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I think technically the only 
stipulation they have for. 

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The type of miniatures and the 
type of games that are played is

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that any models on the table 
must be painted, and that's the 

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only stipulation that they have 
so open to all manufacturers, 

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from The Dark, Deep, Distant 
Past Three to Modern, Games 

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Workshop or any other 
manufacturing. 

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I definitely saw a game of 6 
edition fantasy being played I 

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think on the Sunday surely? 
I think people were playing 

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Gloss Grave and Star Grave and 
really modern stuff. 

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I think there might even have 
been some people playing work, 

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right? 
But I was speaking to some of 

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the old guys and the real 
original people and. 

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In the pub on on Saturday and 
one of them was retelling a 

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story where one year they had an
enormous siege battle and that 

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was quite early in the history 
of putting out your lead. 

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Before it was the carriage court
when the foundry was still based

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on, and I think it was an old 
Babatois in Nottingham. 

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They organized an enormous siege
game, the 3rd edition rules, 

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with two armies advancing on 
one, and one force advancing on 

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the fortification and everyone 
brought. 

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Pieces of their own mighty 
fortress and Brian Ansell as the

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Fort was being set up, 
disappeared and came back with 

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the original metal master, which
I don't think was on display at 

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that point. 
Put it down on the table and 

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Dave Gilson, I think, politely 
removed it from the table and 

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said to Brian Ansell they 
wouldn't be using it because it 

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was unpainted. 
And therefore not eligible to be

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used. 
If there's one game I would love

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to see, it's the Gilson 
brothers. 

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You know, touting it out on the 
table top. 

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Marcel, you were involved in 
some altercation, I believe, 

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with the Gilson brothers. 
We won't carry you. 

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I didn't really saw it because I
suddenly got hit by a I don't 

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know, was it a Magic Spell card 
or a Magic item card. 

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It's a flyer. 
They were just no doubt. 

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Yeah, yeah, it was a very funny,
very funny account. 

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I mean, I feel sorry if you got 
hit back in the head, but I 

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mean. 
If you're going to get hit in 

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the back of the head by 
something, Marcel, I mean, you 

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know, luckily it was just a 4th 
edition Magic card, so it wasn't

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too bad it. 
Wasn't the master of the mighty?

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Flatters. 
No, no, I mean that. 

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In. 
A way. 

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And I mean that's that just. 
That just shows the atmosphere 

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because the guys at the table 
there behind us, they had a 

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blast and really into it And 
then and they said oh sorry, and

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of course no problem at all. 
I handed the card back and they 

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continued, as did we, so no 
problem at all. 

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As long as the fists and blood 
was involved between the gills 

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and game, I'm sure everything 
will be fine. 

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Yeah, now you guys, So you 
played 4th edition too, didn't 

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you? 
You guys played 4th edition on 

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the Chronic Command table. 
Yeah, that's correct. 

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Yeah. 
And I don't know, maybe Ken, you

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also played third edition or was
it poorly 4th edition? 

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No, I'll start with 4th edition 
in the end, cuz that's yeah, 

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what we kind of have more of. 
I mean, my list was still 

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largely. 
Those third edition army books 

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based on SO I still use the 
three sizes of catapult and 

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stuff, but yeah, all 4th edition
I actually played. 

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Lovely, lovely. 
Again, see unluckiest dwarfs in 

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the whole world I've. 
Never seen. 

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I've never seen goblin Chariots 
do so well. 

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They did everything that you 
dream they can do. 

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Then they managed to break. 
Yeah, teach me how. 

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Teach me how. 
Clem, I need to know how, mate. 

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Mine does disintegrate before 
they even reach the target. 

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So you've got to give me some. 
Chariot. 

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It helps. 
It helps. 

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You have 5 organ guns that cause
more casualties to themselves 

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than you want to be. 
Yeah, yeah, that's true. 

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I've been on the sore end of a 
organ gun in my time. 

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I know the feeling. 
So that's wonderful, Okay. 

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That's really good, guys. 
That's really good now. 

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Yeah, you played now. 
Jack and Marcel and Clam, you 

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guys play together. 
Who also was at your table? 

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Timothy and Roger, Who's Maddox 
on on the Discord? 

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Oh, right. 
Mad old brother. 

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So I dragged along my brother 
and son as well. 

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Oh, OK, good. 
That's good. 

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Lovely. 
That's wonderful. 

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Yes. 
It's a very much a family 

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inclusive thing, isn't it? 
Bring it. 

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Lead. 
You can. 

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It is kids along and they can 
have fun. 

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They can do stuff. 
I mean, I'm sure there's a lot 

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of participation games. 
Hell to bring a letters, is that

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right? 
You know you can. 

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So there was, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, a lot of people bought, 

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bought their kids along, which 
you know, I mean it was summer 

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holidays, so I kind of pretty 
much had to, but I was slightly 

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worried he'd feel a little out 
place, but there were a lot of 

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kids there and so it was so 
friendly. 

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He just had a great time to sort
of wander around asking people 

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about their their natures. 
And I think we spotted a couple 

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of Youtubers we watched and he 
just warmed up and introduced 

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himself to them. 
Pretty bold for a six year old, 

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but there you go. 
And there he got to play, He 

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got, he got to play in that 
participation game of what was 

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it called? 
It's like Net Commander rules, 

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but it was Helsridge, Helsridge.
So he got to play alongside Eric

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from Eric Tolby Workshop on the 
game there on Saturday, which he

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loved. 
So yeah, it's very family 

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friendly. 
I'll probably be bringing him 

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back next year as well. 
Yeah. 

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I'm also curious of what you 
actually ate on the day because 

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I know that Dinanza was, you 
know, has her own catering 

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company and she provides all the
food and that kind of thing. 

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So you've got like a bar and 
things you can, I presume you 

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can order to eat and that kind 
of thing. 

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So what guys did you actually 
What guys did you guys what did 

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you munch on during the day? 
Kendall. 

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Kendall. 
Trout. 

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What did you munch on mate today
on that, on the? 

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I think the pick of the boil 
food for me is the breakfast 

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rolls. 
So they offer you like a hot 

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breakfast roll with a selection 
of eggs, sausages, bacon. 

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You know, just like I could feel
English English breakfast in the

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roll if you like, right? 
And that sets you up for a good 

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a good day's gaming and you know
pretty reasonably priced and. 

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Yeah, that's. 
Right. 

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That would be. 
Yeah, all that patron was 

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really, really friendly. 
And yeah, yeah, well priced. 

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Like, yeah, especially 
considering that's your only 

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option really, unless you're 
going to. 

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Exactly. 
It feels. 

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It doesn't feel like they're 
trying to gauge attendees for to

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make money out of it. 
It's very much within the 

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spirit, the spirit of the event.
Yeah. 

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Yeah, even. 
Just keep playing games, 

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basically like. 
Yeah, it's right now. 

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It's there to fill you up. 
Yeah, I, like, had a real 

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friendly feeling of being. 
It's nice to kind of be a bit 

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institutionalized now and then, 
isn't it? 

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Like when you're at something 
like that and everything's laid 

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on and it is like being a kid 
again Because you don't, you 

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just play your game. 
You don't have to think. 

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Oh, yeah, At some point I've got
to sort out dinner for the 

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family and that it's like just. 
Well, they'll come and let you 

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know when dinner's ready and 
stuff like that. 

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Exactly. 
Reasonably priced beer as well, 

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which is nice, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
I think and that's in stark 

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contrast to a lot of other 
events where companies or brands

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who will take advantage of the 
closed atmosphere and charge 

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rates for. 
Just really basic food and drink

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that's much more than you'd 
expect to pay in a different 

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context. 
And yeah, I don't know. 

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I just don't get that impression
that from boil that that's what 

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the foundry are trying to do. 
It's, yeah, very generous and 

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reasonable and functional. 
And yeah, like for. 

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Home cooking. 
Really nice stuff, but Yep, 

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00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:28,710
sounds wonderful. 
Now, did you get to rub 

451
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:32,510
shoulders with any big names? 
Any personalities there? 

452
00:26:32,830 --> 00:26:37,590
Old guard from GW at all, guys. 
Marcel, you got to talk to Kev 

453
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:43,270
Adams here. 
Yeah, because we did the Skyping

454
00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:49,470
thing and that was done. 
We got our pictures taken by one

455
00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:53,910
of the phone free stuff and he 
handed them over to Kev Adams. 

456
00:26:55,060 --> 00:27:02,260
And I don't know, after one or 
two hours we could look if he's 

457
00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:06,140
done with it. 
And he didn't ask, he just 

458
00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:09,340
headed me by miniature because 
I'm almost bald. 

459
00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:12,380
So it was really easy for him to
recognize me. 

460
00:27:13,220 --> 00:27:17,420
The same with clan. 
And I was just, I just said a 

461
00:27:17,420 --> 00:27:20,700
few words to him that I wasn't 
planning doing that but for 

462
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,740
charity. 
And it's so nice that he's doing

463
00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:26,950
it and he. 
Just shook my hand and I was 

464
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:32,430
really like, Oh my God, that's 
cause I yeah, the realization of

465
00:27:32,430 --> 00:27:36,310
that and and that's that's it. 
Now I just didn't want to ask 

466
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:40,710
him more questions because he 
was doing that job there and in 

467
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:47,270
the afterthought I'm kind of 
sorry because also Tony Eklund 

468
00:27:47,270 --> 00:27:51,790
was there and he had binders 
with the original. 

469
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:59,240
Drawings of his black and white 
art and he just allowed people 

470
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:08,320
to go through this binders and 
most of it as I remember was 

471
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:17,160
from the old Weimar fantasy role
play the artwork and I saw one 

472
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,730
of my old time favorite in it. 
That was an adventure that was 

473
00:28:21,730 --> 00:28:24,290
published in The White Dwarf, 
and it was about an Alvin 

474
00:28:24,290 --> 00:28:30,530
necromancer and I was too shy to
ask him if it's for sale. 

475
00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:35,770
That's the thing I regret. 
Maybe I will do it next year or 

476
00:28:35,770 --> 00:28:40,930
so, I don't know. 
Wonderful okay any other guys 

477
00:28:41,130 --> 00:28:43,210
cuz I know John Blanche had 
attended. 

478
00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:47,010
I don't know about many other of
the and other personalities. 

479
00:28:47,010 --> 00:28:49,010
I know that you know Jervis 
Johnson's been there. 

480
00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:51,450
Rick Priestly, he's attended in 
previous years. 

481
00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:54,890
Did anybody else come along from
the? 

482
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:58,330
Robin DS Yeah, I got to shake. 
Shake your hands and say hello 

483
00:28:58,330 --> 00:29:02,370
to Robin DS and John Blanche 
when I was obviously party. 

484
00:29:02,690 --> 00:29:05,050
Star Trek say anything, but 
that's great. 

485
00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:09,210
It was a place to meet them. 
I think Gary Morley was there, 

486
00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:12,610
but I didn't see him. 
Yeah, no, he was there. 

487
00:29:13,650 --> 00:29:15,550
I'm pro. 
And Prouds there, I think. 

488
00:29:15,550 --> 00:29:16,830
I think Prouds too. 
That's great. 

489
00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:22,150
I spoke to him, yeah. 
I think Trish Cardin as well, of

490
00:29:22,150 --> 00:29:22,830
course. 
Yes. 

491
00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:26,110
Trish yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Okay, Robin. 

492
00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:29,830
Jews really enjoyed it when you 
told him his 90s white dwarf 

493
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:31,710
editorials that you're happy to.
Talk. 

494
00:29:31,790 --> 00:29:36,230
Yeah. 
Yeah, totally fanboyed. 

495
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:38,030
Robin Jews. 
Well, Robin Jews, White Dwarf is

496
00:29:38,030 --> 00:29:39,190
the best. 
White Dwarf aren't. 

497
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,320
Yep. 
I'll have to. 

498
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200
I'm actually going to agree with
you, Jack there. 

499
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,000
I think that that time, that's 
when I first got into the hobby 

500
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,480
and I think that's my sort of 
pinnacle time of White Dwarf. 

501
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,360
It it there was smaller, but 
they just contained so much, so 

502
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,920
much goodness in there. 
There was so much great stuff, 

503
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
so much great content. 
Yeah, that's great. 

504
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,960
I'm really glad that really glad
that Robin Jews. 

505
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,840
I didn't actually know that he 
attended that event. 

506
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,880
So that's excellent to hear And 
Gary Morley too. 

507
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,720
That's amazing. 
That's great. 

508
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,100
So a few new faces coming to see
what's happening, what's all 

509
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,540
this excitement and talk about 
with Bring out your Lid. 

510
00:30:12,540 --> 00:30:13,660
So that's good. 
They're coming there to 

511
00:30:13,660 --> 00:30:16,820
reconnect with their fans and 
talk to the people that, you 

512
00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:18,420
know, really appreciate their 
work. 

513
00:30:20,580 --> 00:30:24,380
So it was. 
Really to Kev as much as I did, 

514
00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:27,340
because when I went back to 
check that if my model had been 

515
00:30:27,340 --> 00:30:29,500
done, he had just got on 
sculpting it. 

516
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:32,460
So I got to stand there with him
for a bit while he was 

517
00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:35,860
sculpting, He said, oh wow, you 
really do look like a dwarf, 

518
00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:39,260
didn't you? 
You're the spitting image of a 

519
00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:40,460
troll. 
Say mate Clint. 

520
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:42,500
And that that is a compliment, 
my friend. 

521
00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:49,580
Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, he
he got. 

522
00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:51,660
I think that helped that I went 
back because then he got to 

523
00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:53,580
sculpt like kind of from talking
to us as well. 

524
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:57,300
And he's a real nice guy. 
He's just really, really like 

525
00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:59,300
chilled out to him with him 
while he's sculpting. 

526
00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:02,580
But he works real fast. 
But it like relaxed as well. 

527
00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:05,660
It's kind of, yeah. 
Surprisingly fast, actually. 

528
00:31:05,660 --> 00:31:09,380
I can't believe how many. 
So the individual kind of custom

529
00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:12,020
sculpts he did in the course of 
the day and they're all really 

530
00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:13,380
good. 
Like you could tell straight 

531
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:16,580
away who was who was who. 
Yeah, and some. 

532
00:31:16,660 --> 00:31:19,700
Of those, but also that they're 
very definitely came out of 

533
00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:21,700
sculpts as well, you know. 
Oh, yes. 

534
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:22,540
Yeah. 
Yeah, definitely. 

535
00:31:22,540 --> 00:31:27,740
Yeah. 
I was going to say claim you 

536
00:31:27,740 --> 00:31:30,620
actually remind me of Mark 
Jones. 

537
00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:33,140
Mark Jones was. 
I think he still works at Games 

538
00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:38,300
Workshop, but when I worked 
there in the 1994, you know, he 

539
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:41,620
was like a real troll Slayer 
when he had the red beard, the 

540
00:31:41,620 --> 00:31:45,460
red, the red long hair, and he 
had all these hairs and braids 

541
00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:47,220
with all the beads and stuff 
like that. 

542
00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:48,780
Like he just looked like a troll
Slayer. 

543
00:31:48,780 --> 00:31:50,820
It was amazing. 
So you sort of look like him. 

544
00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:51,940
Actually, you reminded me of 
him. 

545
00:31:53,260 --> 00:31:56,610
Yeah, remember. 
Yeah. 

546
00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:59,010
If you look at look at the old 
white dwarves, mate, Mark Jones.

547
00:31:59,010 --> 00:32:02,130
You look at Mark Jones's photo, 
yeah, he's a spinning image of a

548
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:03,810
troll, say. 
I mean, he obviously does it 

549
00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:05,130
intentionally to look like a 
troll. 

550
00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:06,850
Say he loves dwarves and that 
kind of stuff. 

551
00:32:06,890 --> 00:32:10,690
But yeah, but yeah, might be. 
One of those things where you 

552
00:32:10,690 --> 00:32:15,410
can't meet because you're so 
ginger, you can't be in the same

553
00:32:15,410 --> 00:32:19,170
place as they were. 
Yeah, that's great guys. 

554
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:21,340
Awesome. 
So like you would have walked 

555
00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,860
around the different tables and 
that kind of thing during the 

556
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,500
during the three days that or 
two days or whatever, How many 

557
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:28,820
days you were there, What was 
the highlight? 

558
00:32:28,820 --> 00:32:30,220
What was it? 
Because I know you know Tom 

559
00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:32,220
Reynolds, another member of our 
discord here. 

560
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:36,110
He puts on some outstanding 
epic, epic space marine battles,

561
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:38,550
which I would love to. 
That's one of my dreams is go 

562
00:32:38,550 --> 00:32:42,230
and play with Tom on his epic 
boards because they're all sort 

563
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:45,830
of modular and he does a 
fantastic work on terrain and 

564
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:47,710
miniature painting. 
It's kind of one of the the 

565
00:32:47,710 --> 00:32:49,990
spectacles of of the show, I 
think. 

566
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:53,150
What was your sort of highlight 
of the show? 

567
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:54,670
Kendal trap. 
What do you think mate? 

568
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:57,750
What was your sort of pinnacle 
table your dream? 

569
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:04,540
I this year I got to play a game
with with a guy called Steve 

570
00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:07,700
Biels who's kind of one of the 
original old timer guys and he 

571
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:11,860
has a really good blog called 
Somewhere the Tea is Getting 

572
00:33:11,860 --> 00:33:14,940
cold and you know he's not 
updating it as much as he did 

573
00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:17,180
you know in the kind of blogging
heyday. 

574
00:33:17,660 --> 00:33:22,540
But he he he's got like a really
interesting take on old timer 

575
00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:27,420
and makes a lot of really 
unusual armies and terrain like 

576
00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:30,870
in in previous years. 
I think the first year I went to

577
00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:37,110
Boyle he had brought with him a 
Hurst art molds reconstruction 

578
00:33:37,150 --> 00:33:44,150
of the Temple of Rig which is 
from a very early Sithdel 

579
00:33:44,150 --> 00:33:51,790
compendium or second edition 
scenario about an Amazonian 

580
00:33:51,790 --> 00:33:55,030
temple Illustria and like he 
stays up in. 

581
00:33:56,140 --> 00:33:59,220
In the Lake District for Cumbria
and he'd driven down with this 

582
00:33:59,420 --> 00:34:02,580
thing in the back of his Land 
Rover that I think weighed in 

583
00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:08,860
excess of 20 kilos, the plaster 
brick three story temple. 

584
00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:16,139
And then this year he brought a 
really odd or creative kind of 

585
00:34:16,219 --> 00:34:19,460
corrupted Chaos influenced 
Empire army. 

586
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,800
Using a whole lot of weird 
foundation rules. 

587
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,639
So he had mixed mixed units of 
Pikeman and crossbowmen. 

588
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:35,360
He had a small allied undead 
faction of, you know, kind of a 

589
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,639
vampire with a unit of raised 
zombies. 

590
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,560
He had a unit, a peasant levee 
with a plague carp in the middle

591
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:49,320
of it, and it had sort of plague
census bearers like. 

592
00:34:50,469 --> 00:34:55,150
Almost like Scaven chip types 
that came flying out of it when 

593
00:34:55,150 --> 00:34:58,870
they were approached like Goblin
fanatics, you know and a giant 

594
00:34:58,870 --> 00:35:02,830
Wicker man that you use as like 
an animated construct giant. 

595
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:07,550
So yeah, just like a creative 
use an unusual ones, like 

596
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:10,630
something that's a bit a bit 
different. 

597
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:13,270
So it's always really 
interesting to see, you know, 

598
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:16,390
people making their personal 
tapes on. 

599
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,000
On army composition and setup 
and he also puts a lot of effort

600
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,960
into how he paints and presents 
the miniatures. 

601
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,000
So it was really good fun and 
he's a very generous opponent, 

602
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,360
so that was good fun. 
My highlight? 

603
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Like yeah, that's wonderful, 
mate. 

604
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680
This sounds like the true spirit
of Old Hammer. 

605
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,560
Yeah, exactly. 
Personalization to your army and

606
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,420
that kind of thing. 
So a lot of freedom given there.

607
00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:50,500
And of course you're a very 
skilled painter and conversion 

608
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:54,700
artist as well. 
So what did you take your famir 

609
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:56,500
army to bring out your lead this
year? 

610
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:00,700
Yeah, it did. 
And I've finished the I've been 

611
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,020
working on a land dragon 
conversion thing, which I 

612
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:08,980
thought I've had in mind for 
finishing and time, so it was 

613
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:14,220
good to get that on the table. 
And yeah, it caused a bit of 

614
00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:15,260
damage. 
We used that. 

615
00:36:16,510 --> 00:36:20,110
As a war mammoth so that using 
the war mammoth rules in 3rd 

616
00:36:20,110 --> 00:36:25,550
edition with a with kind of 
three Vienna Finn warriors on 

617
00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:27,270
it. 
So yeah. 

618
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:30,110
Took a bit of took a bit of 
punishment getting across the 

619
00:36:30,110 --> 00:36:34,510
table from a lot of empire 
cannons and some a hail of 

620
00:36:34,510 --> 00:36:38,350
Rudolph arrows but yeah did a 
bit of damage once it once it 

621
00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:40,390
got in about the enemy lines. 
So yeah. 

622
00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:44,470
Was that a dragon? 
That's the prize winning dragon.

623
00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:47,650
Yeah, put it in the painting 
competition then. 

624
00:36:51,810 --> 00:36:54,250
Yeah, that sort of alludes just 
before we get to the other guys 

625
00:36:54,250 --> 00:36:56,730
stories, but that alludes to the
painting competition. 

626
00:36:56,730 --> 00:37:00,850
Now every year bring out Lead 
does support a support the 

627
00:37:00,850 --> 00:37:04,250
artists that work all year round
to paint their wonderful 

628
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:06,690
miniatures, to put in the 
display cameras for other people

629
00:37:06,690 --> 00:37:09,930
to have a look at and look in OR
and aspire to. 

630
00:37:09,930 --> 00:37:12,970
So there was a painting 
competition this year as well. 

631
00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:17,260
Now, Kendall, can you tell us 
about that? 

632
00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:21,980
Like how many people entered and
what kind of entries won on the 

633
00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:27,380
day. 
So it's a really and generally 

634
00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:28,900
in keeping with the spirit of 
Boil. 

635
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:32,900
There is a painting competition,
but it's not a hugely 

636
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:36,820
competitive thing. 
It's quite casual. 

637
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:43,460
There's a cabinet but open and 
people can stick in. 

638
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,320
The models that they want and 
they use a raffle ticket system.

639
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,480
So you write your name in the 
book and put one raffle ticket 

640
00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:01,120
under your model and Tony Gates 
and Garth tend to do the judging

641
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:06,280
in conjunction with someone else
over the course of you know, 

642
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,960
each year. 
And I think this year it was 

643
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,080
Trish Cardin who was involved 
with a pair of them. 

644
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,870
Broadly, they have. 3 
categories, a single model unit 

645
00:38:15,870 --> 00:38:21,150
or squad and large thing, but 
they remain very open and will 

646
00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:25,750
award additional prizes at their
discretion for whatever else 

647
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:30,910
they think or categories 
depending on what's available. 

648
00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:36,310
And yeah, I think this year it 
was definitely busy with a lot 

649
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:42,580
of things and I'd say generally.
Saturday this year I think was 

650
00:38:42,580 --> 00:38:47,540
probably the busiest and 
attendance I've seen that boil. 

651
00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:51,380
So consequently there was a lot 
of models entered. 

652
00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:58,420
But there's again a whole range 
of stuff and like you see on the

653
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:03,420
tables from really very early 
old hammer, you know classic 

654
00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:05,780
Threeslaughter Citadel 
miniatures, right through to 

655
00:39:06,340 --> 00:39:11,260
modern AOS kits, you know, and. 
It's all welcome and all 

656
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:13,740
appreciated. 
Hey, that's excellent, mate. 

657
00:39:13,740 --> 00:39:15,860
That's wonderful. 
Yeah. 

658
00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:18,820
Sadly, old man paints. 
Phil is not here today, but he 

659
00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:24,180
won with his pretty amazing now 
dragon diorama. 

660
00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:26,220
What's the name of the dragon 
again? 

661
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:28,140
What's the name of that? 
Great. 

662
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:30,460
Great Spine Dragon. 
That's it. 

663
00:39:30,460 --> 00:39:34,220
The Great Spine Dragon, and I 
think he picked up from a Bring 

664
00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:38,600
Out Your Lead event previously. 
Yeah, in someone's back, in 

665
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,240
someone's boot of their car or 
something like that. 

666
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,960
I think there seems to be 
another sort of a thing offset 

667
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,520
onto Bring Out lead. 
You can beat people in the car 

668
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,680
park and you can buy stuff off 
them and that kind of thing as 

669
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,120
far as I know. 
Yeah, there's definitely a 

670
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,280
degree of swapping and trading 
that goes on, yeah. 

671
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,200
But you know, again, it's one of
the few rules of boil is that 

672
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,690
they are. 
That because Foundry are 

673
00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:06,610
offering use of their commercial
site for free that you don't 

674
00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:11,770
conduct any sales or trades on 
their site, which is perfectly 

675
00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:13,370
reasonable. 
Absolutely. 

676
00:40:14,330 --> 00:40:16,610
Yeah, absolutely. 
And Jack, what was your 

677
00:40:16,610 --> 00:40:18,650
highlight made of bring it in 
lead this year? 

678
00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:22,570
It's gonna sound terribly 
saccharine, but actually it was 

679
00:40:22,570 --> 00:40:25,090
just kind of meeting the guys in
the Discord in real life it was,

680
00:40:25,490 --> 00:40:28,610
yeah, it was lovely. 
Nice to put some faces to names.

681
00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:30,380
Wonderful. 
That's wonderful. 

682
00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:31,340
That's really great. 
Yeah. 

683
00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:34,180
I'm really glad that people 
actually reconnecting and 

684
00:40:35,020 --> 00:40:38,420
actually connecting in the 1st 
place to meet up in person, to 

685
00:40:38,420 --> 00:40:43,380
actually meet each other. 
And you know, it's not just sort

686
00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:46,180
of a correspondence 
communication. 

687
00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:49,060
Now you can actually meet in 
person and play some games 

688
00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:50,780
together, which is the main 
idea. 

689
00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:53,620
Marcel, how about you, Matt? 
What was the highlight if you 

690
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:59,000
bring out your lid? 
For tables, I would say it was 

691
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,840
the old Hammer table here. 
Cattle Trout was also gaming on 

692
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,240
because that was just amazing. 
All these armies and units 

693
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:12,040
beautifully painted in the old 
hammer spirit. 

694
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,520
That was just awesome. 
And as Jack said, just meeting 

695
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,320
the people not only here, our 
guys from the Discord, but just 

696
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,680
walking around having like 
minded people around you. 

697
00:41:27,620 --> 00:41:31,980
Yep, that's wonderful, man. 
And I think that's sorry. 

698
00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:34,220
I was just going to say, I think
that's really in keeping with 

699
00:41:34,220 --> 00:41:37,060
the spirit of Boil. 
That kind of really grew out of 

700
00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:41,740
a group of bloggers kind of 
finding each other's content 

701
00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:45,500
online and deciding to meet up 
in person and making an 

702
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:49,260
arrangement to do similarly to, 
you know, what happened this 

703
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:51,940
year with the kind of command 
guys booking a table and going 

704
00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:54,180
to the event. 
But the whole kind of genesis 

705
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:58,300
Unboil was strangers meeting on 
an online community and deciding

706
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,700
to get together in person to 
play some games. 

707
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:03,900
And I think it's really good 
that, you know, that continues. 

708
00:42:04,540 --> 00:42:07,460
Yeah, one of the beauties of our
Discord is that you guys aren't 

709
00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:09,340
really strangers. 
You've been talking to each 

710
00:42:09,340 --> 00:42:12,980
other now in our paint and chat 
sessions for years. 

711
00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:15,580
Now you know a good number of 
years, two or three years. 

712
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:19,340
So it's just nice that you 
actually met in person to put a 

713
00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:23,300
face to the name kind of thing, 
which is great, which is really 

714
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:25,020
good to see. 
Now Clem, what was your 

715
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:26,620
highlight? 
Might have bring out your lead 

716
00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:30,500
this year. 
Well, yeah, so many and some 

717
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:34,340
quite similar, yeah. 
And definitely the meeting 

718
00:42:34,340 --> 00:42:37,940
everyone again, the core of the 
Crown armies together to fight 

719
00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:40,900
was really good, cuz yeah, like 
I said, we've been working on 

720
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:43,980
that. 
It was like six months the 

721
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:46,420
challenge. 
Eight months to challenge. 

722
00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:50,100
But yeah, to actually get those 
together on the table and be 

723
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,540
able to play a load of games 
with them when we've kind of 

724
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:55,980
threw the paint and chat work on
those armies together, I think I

725
00:42:55,980 --> 00:43:01,660
thought that was really good. 
Yeah, just, yeah, give it a real

726
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:04,300
feel of, yeah, kind of achieving
something over the course of the

727
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:06,740
year. 
That was, yeah, it was real nice

728
00:43:06,740 --> 00:43:09,580
to bring those in. 
Yeah. 

729
00:43:09,580 --> 00:43:12,660
Meet Kev Adams again. 
That was really good. 

730
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,040
The tables wise, I loved the 
huge. 

731
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,960
Now is it Princep's Tom and the 
Huge. 

732
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,000
It was used for 2nd edition 40K 
and then it was all modular and 

733
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,560
it had proper like dug in like 
gullies for the rivers and 

734
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,160
stuff, but it all would just 
swap in the buildings. 

735
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,080
It all worked perfectly for 
Space Marine as well for Epic. 

736
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,720
That was a really impressive 
board. 

737
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200
That Wickerman giant you 
mentioned? 

738
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,350
Get a little worried about that?
Yeah, it's just a straight kit 

739
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:52,710
that unconverted that's 
available from a small company 

740
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:57,310
in Northumbria called In State 
Castings, but they've got some 

741
00:43:57,310 --> 00:44:01,870
interesting drain and they also 
make some really good 28 mill 

742
00:44:01,870 --> 00:44:05,110
scale ships. 
That's an interesting thing. 

743
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:10,990
Yeah, just, yeah, seeing so many
games, you know, seeing people 

744
00:44:10,990 --> 00:44:15,590
playing. 1st Edition Space Hulk 
and yeah, I was quite busy with 

745
00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:18,430
Quarter to the Crown games and 
just looking at stuff. 

746
00:44:18,430 --> 00:44:23,590
So I didn't really play in as 
many participation things as I'd

747
00:44:24,070 --> 00:44:26,710
like to in the future. 
But it was just seeing them all.

748
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:31,590
It's yeah, just got such a good 
selection of like seeing Full 

749
00:44:31,590 --> 00:44:33,190
Tilt being played. 
That's really good. 

750
00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:39,670
Yeah, that whole thing. 
And sorry for Marcel getting hit

751
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:41,470
in the back of the head, but 
yeah, the. 

752
00:44:42,330 --> 00:44:45,130
The Dave Gilson magical missile 
thing, that was. 

753
00:44:47,290 --> 00:44:49,970
That library, and it just kind 
of, it was like, Oh yeah, there 

754
00:44:49,970 --> 00:44:52,090
it is. 
It's a shame to miss that. 

755
00:44:52,090 --> 00:44:54,450
It'd be really funny, but I just
want to see the Gilsons play 

756
00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:56,250
against each other because I 
know they've got some kind of 

757
00:44:56,250 --> 00:45:00,250
heated rivalry between the two 
brothers, so it would have been 

758
00:45:00,250 --> 00:45:02,090
just really funny just to watch 
them play a game. 

759
00:45:02,090 --> 00:45:05,610
It would be just hilarious. 
So yeah, guys, it's. 

760
00:45:05,610 --> 00:45:09,330
And it often, yeah, it often 
continues on in the pub, on the 

761
00:45:09,770 --> 00:45:12,990
on the Saturday night it's 
spelled doesn't necessarily stop

762
00:45:12,990 --> 00:45:15,790
when the day stop rolling. 
Boy, okay. 

763
00:45:15,870 --> 00:45:19,390
It sounds like a real, real 
laugh, like a British sitcom or 

764
00:45:19,390 --> 00:45:20,550
something. 
I'll be sitting through like 

765
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:21,910
faulty towers or something like 
that. 

766
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:25,350
But yeah, but guys, look, it 
sounds like an amazing event. 

767
00:45:25,350 --> 00:45:29,910
And you know, I'm really glad 
that you guys got to go there 

768
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:33,990
and witness it for at least the 
final time that it's going to be

769
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:36,670
held at. 
Is it Newark in Nottingham, 

770
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:40,670
where the current foundry is 
situated? 

771
00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:42,470
But. 
Like I said, it's not the end. 

772
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:46,230
It's going to continue on as 
long as, you know, the Ansels 

773
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:49,310
want to host it and they have 
the premises that will 

774
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:53,350
facilitate such an event. 
And if not, I'm sure they'll 

775
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:56,270
work out something with Garth 
that they can find some other 

776
00:45:56,270 --> 00:46:01,430
place where they can host it and
Diane can do the catering and 

777
00:46:01,430 --> 00:46:05,230
everything for it and have you 
guys there again in the future 

778
00:46:05,230 --> 00:46:09,150
and it will start. 
I don't know if it'll get bigger

779
00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:12,470
or not, but it for me it always 
seemed like a really quite 

780
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:16,270
small, like 50-60 people. 
But in actual fact there was 

781
00:46:16,270 --> 00:46:18,990
like 200 people that worked 
through the turn, walked through

782
00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:20,590
the turnstiles that day, Is that
right? 

783
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:23,510
About 200 people. 
Yeah, it. 

784
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:24,630
Feels about right. 
Yeah. 

785
00:46:25,390 --> 00:46:27,630
Seems to be a kind of accepted 
estimate. 

786
00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:30,030
But again, they're not selling 
tickets. 

787
00:46:30,030 --> 00:46:32,070
And you know, and no one's kind 
of counting numbers. 

788
00:46:32,070 --> 00:46:36,070
So I suppose it's difficult to 
quantify exactly. 

789
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,360
Yeah. 
Yeah, and it's coming and going.

790
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,640
And also, the weather on 
Saturday was really wet, so I 

791
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:48,280
bet a lot of people were not 
going because of the weather. 

792
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,480
We decided not to come because 
of the weather. 

793
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,800
I think that's probably very 
true. 

794
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,240
About half a dozen cars got 
stuck in the mud, I think just 

795
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,920
outside. 
Some degree of pushing required,

796
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:00,520
I think. 
Yeah, wow. 

797
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,770
Okay. 
So but in just in closing thanks

798
00:47:05,770 --> 00:47:08,690
guys for coming in to share your
stories about bring up your 

799
00:47:08,690 --> 00:47:11,330
lead. 
I mean I mean your stories 

800
00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:14,410
infuse the interest of other 
people who listen on the podcast

801
00:47:14,530 --> 00:47:16,970
like myself and other like 
minded people who would love to 

802
00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:19,810
play or at least to just come to
have a look. 

803
00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:24,690
I mean I could to see Jeff at 
Oak Band Studios videos on his 

804
00:47:24,690 --> 00:47:28,050
YouTube channel which are always
interesting and I I always love 

805
00:47:28,530 --> 00:47:31,250
his sort of views and how how he
presents. 

806
00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:35,770
Bring up your lead. 
In a very much in a in a way 

807
00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:38,850
that sort of showcases the 
tables and the people attending 

808
00:47:38,850 --> 00:47:41,050
and that kind of thing. 
Not being too intrusive, but 

809
00:47:41,050 --> 00:47:43,930
just sort of standing back and 
just showing everybody, you know

810
00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:45,530
giving a glimpse of what it's 
like. 

811
00:47:45,690 --> 00:47:48,610
Which I want to give Jeff a 
shout out and I hope I can get 

812
00:47:48,610 --> 00:47:50,810
him back on the crown of command
at some point in the future to 

813
00:47:50,810 --> 00:47:54,970
talk about bring out your lead 
because he he made something 

814
00:47:54,970 --> 00:48:00,210
pretty spectacular as a present 
for Diane. 

815
00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:02,610
Ansel because Brian, 
unfortunately. 

816
00:48:03,090 --> 00:48:07,330
Wasn't able physically able or 
his health just wasn't just 

817
00:48:07,330 --> 00:48:11,770
wasn't able to come on the day. 
So Kettle you were there, I 

818
00:48:11,770 --> 00:48:14,010
think, mate, at the presentation
at the end. 

819
00:48:14,010 --> 00:48:16,770
What exactly did Jeff make for 
Diane? 

820
00:48:18,090 --> 00:48:23,610
So I think that the guys who 
organized and run Boyle wanted 

821
00:48:23,610 --> 00:48:27,870
to commemorate with us being 
the, I think physically the 10th

822
00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:31,430
time boil had taken place. 
Although the 11th year since it 

823
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:35,070
started just wanted to give 
something to the Ansels and 

824
00:48:35,070 --> 00:48:39,710
Foundry to to say thanks for 
their generosity. 

825
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:44,350
You know that allows boil to 
kind of really exist in the way 

826
00:48:44,350 --> 00:48:49,470
that it does by providing you 
know their their facilities that

827
00:48:49,470 --> 00:48:53,310
foundry free of charge which is 
you know the generous thing to 

828
00:48:53,310 --> 00:48:57,870
do. 
So decommissioned Jeff to make a

829
00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:02,950
life-size replica of the the 
Warhammer from the cover of the 

830
00:49:03,350 --> 00:49:08,230
3rd edition Warhammer Fantasy 
rulebook which was really great 

831
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:11,630
and like on a little kind of 
wooden plaque and presented it 

832
00:49:11,630 --> 00:49:14,510
to her. 
And I think Jeff has a 

833
00:49:14,990 --> 00:49:17,150
background in theater prop 
making. 

834
00:49:18,670 --> 00:49:22,190
So he did a, you know, like 
great job and yeah, that was 

835
00:49:22,190 --> 00:49:26,270
seemed like a really nice 
warhammer related old hammer 

836
00:49:27,070 --> 00:49:29,070
thing. 
An actual old hammer. 

837
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:34,590
Yeah, to give to the answers as 
a sort of gesture of thanks for 

838
00:49:35,830 --> 00:49:37,710
all that they do to allow it to 
take place. 

839
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:39,590
Yeah, it looks absolutely 
brilliant. 

840
00:49:39,590 --> 00:49:42,030
I think it was just, yeah, just 
a wonderful bit of 

841
00:49:42,030 --> 00:49:44,310
craftsmanship. 
How he put that together. 

842
00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:45,550
It was really, really 
interesting. 

843
00:49:48,350 --> 00:49:51,190
So guys, final question, how 
much did you spend? 

844
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:56,690
At the Foundry, did anybody 
bring back lead piles on the way

845
00:49:56,690 --> 00:49:59,970
home? 
And as a thank you to the to the

846
00:49:59,970 --> 00:50:02,610
Answers for a wonderful weekend.
Marcel, we'll start with you 

847
00:50:02,610 --> 00:50:03,530
mate. 
Did you buy anything? 

848
00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:13,370
Yes, I kept strong and I didn't 
buy any historical ranges, so 

849
00:50:13,370 --> 00:50:18,570
I'm really proud of myself. 
But I bought 2 blisters from 

850
00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:24,150
their skeleton range like. 
The command team for the 

851
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:27,910
skeleton cavalry, because they 
fit nicely, I think, with the 

852
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:33,310
plastic old hammer skeletons, 
and I bought a blister of their 

853
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:38,910
on that skeleton crossbow. 
They looked really nice. 

854
00:50:39,070 --> 00:50:43,950
And then I bought the blister of
the Oh yeah, I bought the best 

855
00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:47,670
of late medieval captains for 
getting my head sculpted on one 

856
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:48,990
of them. 
That's true. 

857
00:50:49,590 --> 00:50:54,070
And then I bought some blisters 
from there, or what's it called,

858
00:50:54,070 --> 00:50:56,710
St. 
Violence Range, That is a kind 

859
00:50:56,710 --> 00:51:01,750
of modern range with punks and 
SWAT teams and whatever. 

860
00:51:02,830 --> 00:51:07,590
And I bought some of them for my
Tiger Punk and Zombie project. 

861
00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:10,870
It's wonderful, man. 
I'm sure the answer will be very

862
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:14,830
thankful for your patronage on 
the day that you brought some. 

863
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:19,130
Some Lovely War Games Foundry 
miniatures back home to Germany,

864
00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:21,290
so that's excellent. 
Jack, did you purchase anything 

865
00:51:21,290 --> 00:51:24,170
on the day mate? 
I did, yeah. 

866
00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:26,890
I mean, the Foundry miniatures 
are actually really lovely. 

867
00:51:27,370 --> 00:51:30,050
Yeah. 
I justified to myself by saying 

868
00:51:30,410 --> 00:51:31,930
this is effectively the price of
entry. 

869
00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:36,570
There's no tickets, so you buy a
little lead band to make up for 

870
00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:37,490
it. 
Yeah, I did. 

871
00:51:37,690 --> 00:51:41,890
I got they had some lovely 
basement sculpt set, so I got 

872
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:45,590
some of those. 
And I let my son go and pick 

873
00:51:45,630 --> 00:51:47,350
whatever he wanted for himself 
as well. 

874
00:51:47,350 --> 00:51:50,550
So he came out of a little Hydra
miniature, which, having looked 

875
00:51:50,550 --> 00:51:52,270
at it, it's going to be an 
absolute bugger to put together.

876
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:55,390
So it was bad to do at some 
point. 

877
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:58,510
But yeah, that didn't get too 
mad. 

878
00:51:59,790 --> 00:52:01,150
Wonderful, mate. 
Okay Clem. 

879
00:52:01,150 --> 00:52:08,550
What did you get mate? 
And well, I bought the 

880
00:52:08,550 --> 00:52:11,350
translayer type boundary model. 
I can't remember it. 

881
00:52:11,350 --> 00:52:15,040
I think it was a Norse dwarf. 
Something to get my face 

882
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:20,280
sculpted on. 
And I, yeah, gave the money to 

883
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,400
charity for Kev sculpting, which
was like, so generously priced 

884
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,880
in that. 
I mean, he's an absolute master 

885
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,040
of it. 
Yes. 

886
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,920
That he have. 
That goes to charity. 

887
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,760
And I was like, yeah, got to do 
that. 

888
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,480
I got the painting guide that 
they do. 

889
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,520
They're Kevin Dalamore Foundry 
Miniatures. 

890
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,880
They're painting a modeling 
guide. 

891
00:52:43,380 --> 00:52:46,020
And yeah, all things that I 
wasn't really intended to get, 

892
00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:49,940
but it kind of was just inspired
by the projects that came from 

893
00:52:49,940 --> 00:52:52,060
doing the boil thing. 
Like now I've started Dwarf Army

894
00:52:52,420 --> 00:52:57,020
because of that figure. 
I bought their expert paint sets

895
00:52:57,020 --> 00:52:58,620
because their paints come in a 
set of three. 

896
00:52:58,620 --> 00:53:01,540
You get like a shade tone, a mid
tone and a highlight tone. 

897
00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:04,260
I thought, oh, I want to try 
that out there. 

898
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:06,820
There you do their expert paint 
range, so I'm going to use that 

899
00:53:06,820 --> 00:53:09,620
on my dwarfs. 
Bought that and I got some hand 

900
00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:11,730
Gunners. 
From the historical range, but 

901
00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:15,290
they will go with my Empire army
that I want to eventually build,

902
00:53:15,450 --> 00:53:18,250
which is mostly Battle Masters 
models. 

903
00:53:18,250 --> 00:53:23,010
I thought they'd go quite well. 
I don't get yeah, I think that 

904
00:53:24,370 --> 00:53:26,690
about it from there. 
Oh, good. 

905
00:53:26,690 --> 00:53:28,050
Only mate did well. 
Very good. 

906
00:53:28,570 --> 00:53:29,370
Excellent. 
Good. 

907
00:53:29,650 --> 00:53:32,130
So it's a nice little bag of 
goodies there. 

908
00:53:32,130 --> 00:53:34,290
You brought home to the Clem 
family? 

909
00:53:34,410 --> 00:53:35,810
Yeah, that's nice, mate. 
That's great. 

910
00:53:35,970 --> 00:53:38,370
And kettle trad, Did you get 
anything made on the day? 

911
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:44,550
Yeah, I ended up coming away 
with a selection of bits and 

912
00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:48,190
pieces. 
So little Kev Adams goblin 

913
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:52,990
writing weird 2 legged dinosaurs
and yes, their outfits. 

914
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:57,230
And yeah, I've got it full and 
yeah, a few bits and pieces. 

915
00:53:59,030 --> 00:54:01,910
Everyone came away with a little
floaty guy as well and gave away

916
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:04,070
a little free. 
That's right, specific minister 

917
00:54:04,070 --> 00:54:07,470
for the occasion, which is 
actually joy to paint it. 

918
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:11,490
It's lovely little men, yeah. 
They make an event specific 

919
00:54:11,490 --> 00:54:16,970
miniature each year, which again
is given out for free and to 

920
00:54:16,970 --> 00:54:19,530
everyone who attends. 
And they again, the Boil 

921
00:54:19,530 --> 00:54:22,770
organizers make a point of 
saying you've been given it as a

922
00:54:22,770 --> 00:54:26,770
gift, please don't sell it. 
You know, you're quite they're 

923
00:54:26,770 --> 00:54:29,410
quite happy for you to give it 
away, but they've really 

924
00:54:29,410 --> 00:54:31,450
strongly discourage you putting 
it on eBay. 

925
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:39,680
And selling it to Jerome. 
I know him from Hastings and he 

926
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,240
has been spoiled quite a lot, 
hasn't been able to go this year

927
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:45,560
because he's ill Yeah, well, 
that's a really nice thing to 

928
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:50,320
do. 
But they tend to alternate each 

929
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:55,080
year between a fantasy and a 
sci-fi and sort of sculpt to 

930
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,040
kind of. 
Yeah, keep the two. 

931
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,640
I'm happy. 
But that in itself is a really 

932
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,280
nice thing. 
So they do, and it's nice to 

933
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:10,180
have, you know, like a fairly 
exclusive memento of the event. 

934
00:55:11,420 --> 00:55:17,180
And I know that the organizers 
of Boil have started to supply 

935
00:55:17,180 --> 00:55:20,140
the various other old Timer 
events, like the Old Timer 

936
00:55:20,140 --> 00:55:25,100
Poland, with casts of the Boil 
figure to distribute at their 

937
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,860
events as well, which are in 
considering this. 

938
00:55:27,060 --> 00:55:28,700
Yeah, it's brilliant. 
Nice thing for them to do as 

939
00:55:28,740 --> 00:55:30,580
well. 
Yeah, absolutely, man. 

940
00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:35,960
That's very generous of them. 
Actually painting at the moment,

941
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,240
my Shannon, we've got there one 
of the. 

942
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:41,120
Previous Yeah. 
Some trap was giving those away 

943
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,880
as well, wasn't it? 
Yeah, all right. 

944
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,840
Yeah. 
Literally just lots of this 

945
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,920
morning. 
That's right. 

946
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:53,400
So in addition to the event 
miniature, you quite often 

947
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,680
encounter people who are giving 
away other miniatures sometimes 

948
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,720
take new scopes that they have 
made. 

949
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:07,140
For instance, the The Orc Demon.
It was a 3D print of a digital 

950
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:11,300
scope, A Spanish guy, I think 
his company is called Red Bar 

951
00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:14,980
Games and made. 
I think he sculpted it himself 

952
00:56:16,140 --> 00:56:18,860
for the idle and Corp campaign. 
I think they were going to be 

953
00:56:18,860 --> 00:56:23,060
playing at Boyle and he said he 
just printed off a few. 

954
00:56:23,860 --> 00:56:27,140
I think they said about 150 
extra copies and was quite happy

955
00:56:27,140 --> 00:56:36,060
to give them away to people with
no expectation or, you know, all

956
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:37,540
this, I need to do anything with
it. 

957
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,420
And, you know, there are several
other people, other people who 

958
00:56:41,420 --> 00:56:45,580
bring bits, boxes of, you know, 
double s or miniatures that they

959
00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:48,780
might be broken or things that 
they're not going to use and 

960
00:56:49,260 --> 00:56:52,700
just sit them on a table and 
people can help themselves. 

961
00:56:54,830 --> 00:56:57,110
Wow. 
Well, yeah, it's very difficult.

962
00:56:57,110 --> 00:56:59,270
Even if you don't spend any 
money at oil, it's pretty 

963
00:56:59,270 --> 00:57:02,230
difficult to leave about some 
new miniatures in some form or 

964
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:04,030
another. 
Yeah mate, that's for sure. 

965
00:57:04,030 --> 00:57:07,470
Now that sounds like a wonderful
event and I really thank you 

966
00:57:07,470 --> 00:57:10,110
guys, all of you. 
So that's Jack Clem. 

967
00:57:10,930 --> 00:57:13,370
Kendall Trout and Marcel, for 
sharing all your stories about 

968
00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:15,170
bringing out lead for 2023 this 
year. 

969
00:57:15,170 --> 00:57:18,210
I really, I'm really glad you 
guys got to connect and meet in 

970
00:57:18,210 --> 00:57:22,010
person and to, like I said, put 
a face to a name that you known 

971
00:57:22,010 --> 00:57:23,690
from the Discord for all these 
years. 

972
00:57:24,250 --> 00:57:28,730
And it's just one of those 
highlights that we you guys can 

973
00:57:28,730 --> 00:57:32,450
enjoy and hopefully I will make 
it there one day, one, one year,

974
00:57:32,450 --> 00:57:36,510
one pilgrimage. 
If the big Boss allows me to 

975
00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:40,630
make my voyage over to the UK 
again after, I don't know, 30 

976
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:43,590
odd years since being there to 
attend, bring out your lead to 

977
00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:45,430
play some and roll some dice 
with you guys. 

978
00:57:45,630 --> 00:57:49,390
So thank you very much again for
this evening and take care and 

979
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:52,470
catch you again next time. 
Thanks. 

980
00:57:53,230 --> 00:57:53,990
Excellent. 
Thanks. 

981
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:54,910
OK. 
Bye. 

982
00:57:55,470 --> 00:57:56,550
Bye, Thank you. 
Bye, bye.