1 00:00:08,699 --> 00:00:12,500 Welcome back everyone to another podcast today and 2 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:14,980 thank you very much for downloading and giving us 3 00:00:14,980 --> 00:00:19,140 the time to share another great story from Deets from 4 00:00:19,140 --> 00:00:22,040 the Anvil of Doom miniatures YouTube channel. 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,980 So as you can understand the 6 00:00:23,980 --> 00:00:27,420 title of his channel, grab my interest straight away 7 00:00:27,420 --> 00:00:30,980 because the Anvil of Doom is one of the iconic 8 00:00:30,980 --> 00:00:35,600 models from fourth edition One the Fantasy battle and 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,580 proudly sits in my display case painted as well. So 10 00:00:40,580 --> 00:00:43,240 I was very keen to see what Deets was doing on 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,440 his channel and he has some really wonderfully 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:52,560 presented I think painting videos and he does it in 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,900 a very unique style and I think it's been quite 14 00:00:55,900 --> 00:00:58,560 successful for him. He's only been in doing this 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,460 for about a year, which is really surprising to me. So 16 00:01:01,460 --> 00:01:03,920 I'm really happy for him that it's been so 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,500 successful that he's built quite a big following on 18 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:12,240 his channel and he has a lot of correspondence with 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,480 his fans and that kind of thing that sent him models 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,140 or other projects for him to work on and 21 00:01:20,140 --> 00:01:22,320 collaborations. So well done to him. It's 22 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:24,960 really nice to see that that's someone who's 23 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:29,220 generally so nice and very genuine about the hobby is 24 00:01:29,220 --> 00:01:35,080 doing so well in this very niche hobby of ours. So 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,200 that's the interview today. So 26 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,700 I hope you enjoy that. And as we're nearing a four 27 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:43,480 year anniversary for the Crannick Man podcast, which 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,580 is amazing, that's four years of interviews, which 29 00:01:47,580 --> 00:01:50,440 is still mind boggling that people still want to come 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,320 on and talk with me and share their stories with 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,580 you, which is really lovely. I 32 00:01:56,580 --> 00:01:59,960 hope to bring back some old voices like Justin, 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,340 Justin Wu, a good friend of mine here in Japan that 34 00:02:03,340 --> 00:02:08,560 we did the very first episode together. I 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,800 think we did it. I think episode one was about 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,600 fifth edition, one of fantasy battle. And 37 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,240 I think it was at a time when I just first 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,080 introduced fifth edition to Justin, he'd never played 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,820 it before. So yeah, if you can hear back 40 00:02:23,820 --> 00:02:27,980 all the way back then. So to a time I don't think 41 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:31,160 the podcast quality was that bad, because I think 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,860 we're recording it via, I think via zoom or something 43 00:02:34,860 --> 00:02:38,820 back then. There was in 2020 on the fifth 44 00:02:38,820 --> 00:02:43,000 of May. So we're getting very close to 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,480 that time again, where it's the anniversary. So 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,360 I hope to get Justin back on again for us to do a 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,820 fourth year anniversary special. And 48 00:02:52,820 --> 00:02:56,740 also my very first interviewee, which was Dave 49 00:02:56,740 --> 00:03:00,000 Lister, all the way from Hamilton in Canada, talking 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,800 about his Wood Elf Army. And 51 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,660 I hope to get Dave back on, because I know he's a 52 00:03:04,660 --> 00:03:09,000 massive enthusiast of the 90s Games Workshop games. 53 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,340 He set up our discord and has 54 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:16,860 been actively, you know, moderating that and being 55 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:19,040 part of the community. And I really want to get him 56 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,720 back on to talk about 90s Games Workshop games. It's 57 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,440 kind of our passion, as you know, as part of the 58 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,420 Chronic Command. So it'd be nice to get him 59 00:03:27,420 --> 00:03:30,060 back on to talk in reflection over the last 60 00:03:30,060 --> 00:03:33,380 four years and what he's been up to, and talk about 61 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:35,580 the games that we love. So that'd be really, really 62 00:03:35,580 --> 00:03:39,080 nice. A lot of things have been 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,920 happening in the background. Obviously, 64 00:03:41,420 --> 00:03:45,600 the tears of Aisha campaign, it's been rebooted 65 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,460 and kicked off again on YouTube. And 66 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:51,480 I'm happy that a lot of people have liked it and 67 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,820 responded in a very positive way to the new 68 00:03:53,820 --> 00:03:57,580 format we're doing on the videos, which is good 69 00:03:57,580 --> 00:04:00,360 because it's a lot of time in making those videos. So 70 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,540 I hope that people are enjoying those, every one 71 00:04:03,540 --> 00:04:07,580 of you. And to hear that you're 72 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:10,900 enjoying it is giving me more motivation to do some 73 00:04:10,900 --> 00:04:15,160 more stuff. But obviously, time and work 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,579 balance is an issue. So obviously, I've got to take 75 00:04:18,579 --> 00:04:20,820 those into consideration. And 76 00:04:20,820 --> 00:04:24,960 when we can record and that kind of thing. So 77 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,540 we're going to continue the tears of Aisha campaign 78 00:04:28,540 --> 00:04:33,420 with scenario two and three filmed on Monday, this 79 00:04:33,420 --> 00:04:37,800 coming Monday. I think that's the sixth of 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,880 May. And then I'll edit those and 81 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,620 release those at some time during May. So 82 00:04:43,620 --> 00:04:47,280 we can sort of correlate those battles altogether in 83 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,720 one sequence rather than sort of being spread out 84 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,640 over several months, I think we should just sort 85 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,140 of nail that on the head and get that underway. So 86 00:04:56,140 --> 00:04:58,540 I'm really looking forward to that. And 87 00:04:58,540 --> 00:05:01,000 then the conclusive battle at the end will be at 88 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,800 some point, I'd say in June, depending if I have 89 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,500 enough models, it's a 3000 point battle. I 90 00:05:08,508 --> 00:05:10,040 don't know if I've got enough high heels, I need 91 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,120 to work out my list for that and see where we're 92 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,300 up to that. But in terms of hobby, I've 93 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:20,700 been enjoying some bit of painting on Sunday. And 94 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:26,840 I've started working on my evil son's road trader Kev 95 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:31,080 Adams character model, it's like a knob guy, which I'm 96 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,880 really enjoying painting that I've taken out my my 97 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,140 weapon and the Azeg the slaughterer, which is being 98 00:05:38,140 --> 00:05:40,820 customized by Kev Adams himself, the Goblin Master, 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,700 and retouching that up because I'm playing a game 100 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:52,360 with Max in Chiba in Japan this coming Saturday. So 101 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,560 I'm mastering my Auckland goblins as voted by my 102 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,300 patrons on Patreon to the army that I'll bring to 103 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:02,340 him to play Warhammer Renaissance in a 1500 point 104 00:06:02,340 --> 00:06:05,440 sort of a training training game. As 105 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,520 it's his first time to bring his model to the 106 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,640 table, he's taking a beastman army. And 107 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,980 I'll record that and I'll put a short video on 108 00:06:12,980 --> 00:06:16,820 Patreon for that. So my patrons can enjoy the 109 00:06:16,820 --> 00:06:21,340 battle unfold there. But yeah, lots of things, lots 110 00:06:21,340 --> 00:06:24,620 of great models, commissions have come in from people, 111 00:06:24,660 --> 00:06:27,960 which is fantastic. I wholeheartedly thank them 112 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,620 for that. That's immensely encouraging for 113 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:32,200 me. It keeps me, you know, it 114 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,420 keeps me in a job. It keeps me very busy. I've 115 00:06:35,420 --> 00:06:37,240 got a beautiful Chaos Dwarf army here. I've 116 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,600 got a beautiful old like a fourth edition, fifth 117 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,520 edition Dwarf army sitting here. I've 118 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,760 got some wonderful models from Warhammer Quest module, 119 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,840 Catacombs of Terror, I think, all the undead 120 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:49,980 models was looking that today. So 121 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:54,500 I've got wonderful figurines sitting here to be painted. 122 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,800 I've got some stuff in the mail 123 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,120 today from Marcus from Dicehammer, my previous 124 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:05,800 guests on the podcast. We're 125 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,840 all the way back from Road Trader, you know, Kev 126 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:10,000 Adams, second edition figures and that kind of 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,280 thing. So I am really inundated with 128 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,880 beautiful stuff at the moment sitting my table 129 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,580 right now. I'm truly blessed. So 130 00:07:18,580 --> 00:07:23,060 I think I owe you guys a studio update sometime, 131 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,480 hopefully towards the end of this week, if not early 132 00:07:29,020 --> 00:07:33,000 May. Presenting a lot of those figures and 133 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,280 a lot of those armies and all the miniatures that I 134 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,380 have got here. So you get a sneak peek as 135 00:07:38,380 --> 00:07:40,820 to what I'm working on and what's coming up in terms 136 00:07:40,820 --> 00:07:43,600 of commissions and what you can look forward to seeing 137 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,020 in future battle reports, perhaps a lot of it's 138 00:07:47,020 --> 00:07:49,720 fantasy focused. So they want a fantasy fans 139 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,500 out there will be very happy to hear that. But 140 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:56,920 just loads and loads and loads of ideas that I 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,000 really want to get out there, lots of projects and 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,800 I'm working on. It's just getting the time. So 143 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,780 thank you again to my patrons who support me each 144 00:08:04,780 --> 00:08:08,360 month, who allow me to basically buying me the 145 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,560 time to do a lot of stuff in the background, making 146 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,620 the videos, doing audio stuff for them, producing 147 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:18,500 this podcast, giving me the time to do that. So 148 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:20,580 thank you so much for that, guys. I 149 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:22,340 really appreciate it. And thank you to the listeners 150 00:08:22,340 --> 00:08:26,540 out there who continue to enjoy the interviews that 151 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:29,840 we bring each week, or hopefully each week. I'm 152 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,360 trying to keep it on a weekly, weekly basis to 153 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,140 keep you guys entertained. So 154 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:37,840 without further ado, here's Deets from Anvil of Doom 155 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,960 miniatures with history. And I hope you enjoy it. Okay, 156 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:50,560 guys, thank you. Looking at my history, for me, 157 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,020 obviously, I've come into the hobby in the last 158 00:08:53,020 --> 00:08:55,180 couple of years, really. But 159 00:08:55,180 --> 00:08:59,440 when I was younger, when I was, I suppose when I was 160 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,900 like, eight, nine, 10, and 11, that's when I was 161 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:05,200 like, really, that's when I was kind of like, was kind 162 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,460 of the visuals of it kind of got me hooked into it. 163 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,580 And I'm guessing that was 164 00:09:08,580 --> 00:09:11,920 around like fifth edition, because like, I've told a 165 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,440 story a few times, when I made it the road, he had 166 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,340 a bunch of lizard men, like bunch of old fifth 167 00:09:15,340 --> 00:09:18,060 edition of Monopos, met I've monopos lizard men. 168 00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:19,340 And that's how it kind of got 169 00:09:19,340 --> 00:09:21,560 me involved in it. And I was kind of like, Oh, 170 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:23,840 wow, this is amazing. And he and his mate had 171 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,280 empire. I don't remember car he had 172 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,380 car friends and stuff like that. And 173 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:29,860 that's where I kind of like, that's when I kind 174 00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:32,660 of like, that's where I think it hooked me. And 175 00:09:32,660 --> 00:09:34,780 I remember mum and dad would buy me what I know, 176 00:09:34,820 --> 00:09:36,880 white cloth magazines and all those types of little 177 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,720 bits and pieces here and there. So, 178 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,080 and it was in the last few years, that's when I 179 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,420 kind of came back to the hobby. I 180 00:09:43,428 --> 00:09:46,820 was like, okay, like, you know, after like around end 181 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:50,060 of COVID, I was like, I need something to do. And 182 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:52,080 then I kind of came back into it. And 183 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,260 obviously, when the fantasy didn't exist anymore. It 184 00:09:55,260 --> 00:09:57,240 was like very, I walked into the hobby shop and it 185 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,820 was just sigma and I'm like, what's going on here? 186 00:09:59,260 --> 00:10:00,420 Where's all the good stuff? You 187 00:10:00,428 --> 00:10:02,900 know, where's all the where, you know, where's 188 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:05,200 where my house, you know, where's all that sort of 189 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,500 stuff. And I was a bit like lost. 190 00:10:06,820 --> 00:10:10,900 And then the, the, the manager 191 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:13,160 of the store was trying to explain to me, you know, 192 00:10:13,180 --> 00:10:14,720 what happened the end times, like stuff. And 193 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,600 I'm just sitting there, just gone like, what, 194 00:10:16,820 --> 00:10:19,160 what's going on here? And then I was like reading 195 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,260 into it. And I'm like, holy shit. And 196 00:10:21,260 --> 00:10:24,680 I actually did buy some like, like a bought some 197 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:26,240 major sigma stuff. And I was like, I just looked 198 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,060 at it and I was like, I just don't really have any, 199 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:30,920 you know, like, I didn't really hit me as much. And 200 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,260 then, and then so I just jumped on Facebook, 201 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:35,700 Marketplace and just started buying, you know, fourth 202 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:38,440 edition high elves and everything I actually wanted 203 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,820 to paint and stuff like that. And 204 00:10:40,820 --> 00:10:44,120 then now I've got a massive pile behind me, 205 00:10:44,260 --> 00:10:51,480 which the Mrs. isn't too happy about. Just 206 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:52,880 don't tell her how much you paid for it, mate. 207 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,140 That's the secret. Exactly. 208 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,780 Yeah. That's the secret. I 209 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:57,840 reckon it's a secret to be a good hobbyist is like, 210 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,700 you've got to kind of hide those, you know, things 211 00:11:00,700 --> 00:11:02,340 that don't matter too much, you know, as long as you, 212 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,720 as long as you can pay the bills, you're good. I 213 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,400 can miss us with the shoes and makeup and, you know, 214 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:14,060 she gets, she gets a, she does gardening and best of 215 00:11:14,060 --> 00:11:15,740 both worlds. Yeah, that's right. So 216 00:11:15,740 --> 00:11:18,080 yeah. But yeah, mate, that's, that's 217 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,060 interesting. Because, you know, I'm interested 218 00:11:20,060 --> 00:11:22,080 in, you know, like yourself, because, you know, 219 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,480 you produce really good videos, very colorful, nice 220 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,680 graphics. I thought you were a 221 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:27,700 designer. Is that right? You're 222 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:30,980 a designer by trade. Yeah. That part time. Yeah, 223 00:11:31,060 --> 00:11:32,500 I've done a blog with the OBS, but yeah, I did. 224 00:11:32,860 --> 00:11:34,480 Yeah, I was a designer and then 225 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,600 an art director for a little while. And 226 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 then I've gone on kind of freelance now art director, 227 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,960 I just do my own thing there. So, 228 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,920 and I do a little bit of manual labor. I 229 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,300 help out here and there. I did trade off the high 230 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:47,600 school and stuff like that. And 231 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,880 then, but then I went to university after that 232 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,300 because I was like, I need to be more creative and do 233 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:55,000 those things. I did illustration for a 234 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,140 while as well and all those things like that. So 235 00:11:57,140 --> 00:11:59,220 yeah, with the channel, definitely you probably 236 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:01,220 shows you'd probably see all the color and stuff 237 00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:02,420 like that. I'm wondering what the hell's 238 00:12:02,420 --> 00:12:04,640 going on. So I'm just looking at your 239 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,920 room, mate. It's like, it's just like a 240 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,260 beautiful sort of purple hue, just, you know, 241 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,640 covering on your walls and stuff like that. Yeah, 242 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,440 I got the lights down there. I 243 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,560 did have more artworks, but I kind of like a bit 244 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:18,480 like, oh, you know, I've got like, I used to print 245 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,820 and I used to do, I used to do a lot of 246 00:12:22,820 --> 00:12:25,220 illustration work and I had my own little website stuff 247 00:12:25,220 --> 00:12:26,500 like that. And I kind of got to the 248 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:29,140 point where it kind of go a bit too much. Like, 249 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,240 I was working for a lot of like, I was doing a 250 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,100 bit of work for companies, illustrating companies and 251 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:38,680 stuff like that. And I kind of lost my passion 252 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:42,460 for it because it became what they want over, you 253 00:12:42,460 --> 00:12:44,660 know, like kind of what I wanted to do. And 254 00:12:44,660 --> 00:12:46,560 I've got to look at where I was like, I just, I 255 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:48,080 just couldn't even pick up the pen anymore. I'm 256 00:12:48,088 --> 00:12:49,900 like, I'm just sick of this because it's something, 257 00:12:50,020 --> 00:12:51,380 you know, something you love. I 258 00:12:51,380 --> 00:12:53,000 guess that's what I love about this hobby. It's 259 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,980 like, there's nothing, you know, it's completely mine. 260 00:12:55,220 --> 00:12:56,740 I can do whatever I want and 261 00:12:56,740 --> 00:12:59,480 kind of, you know, paint however I want to paint. I 262 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,380 could paint the classic style, which I absolutely 263 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:03,220 love and adore from what I remember when I'm younger. 264 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,500 But yeah, that's what happened 265 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,000 with that illustration. But it's weird ever since I 266 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,120 got kind of back into doing YouTube and doing all 267 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,040 this stuff, it's like, I'm really enjoying drawing 268 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,220 again, but I enjoy drawing like stuff for the channel 269 00:13:15,220 --> 00:13:18,820 and, and, you know, like, I love drawing rap boys 270 00:13:18,820 --> 00:13:20,780 and stuff like that. If you skate, you know, and 271 00:13:20,780 --> 00:13:22,260 just doing just do a little doodles and stuff 272 00:13:22,260 --> 00:13:23,460 like that. So I'm slowly getting back 273 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:25,860 into it. But yeah, definitely, I'm, I 274 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:28,100 still do a design here and there and I'm just 275 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:31,360 freelance now. So live the good life. That's 276 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,360 it, mate. That's it. Yeah, 277 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,160 you and me too, mate. I'm doing, I'm doing freelance 278 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,620 and I love it. I hope it runs out. Sorry, 279 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:39,860 what's that? What type of freelance are you 280 00:13:39,868 --> 00:13:42,240 doing? So I'm a full -time miniature 281 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,220 painter, commission mate miniature. Now 282 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:48,020 I do some teaching very rarely. It's 283 00:13:48,020 --> 00:13:49,560 quite scarce at the moment. Sometimes 284 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:52,600 it pop up and I do some English teaching here. But 285 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,080 yeah, mainly my main, main income is through, you 286 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,900 know, commission painting. And 287 00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:00,160 then I do, you know, obviously make my videos 288 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,260 and podcasts and that kind of thing. Yeah. 289 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:07,020 So I gotta say, I love your miniatures. So 290 00:14:07,028 --> 00:14:10,620 I, I'm, I've seen the odd video of yours, the kind 291 00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:13,600 of your army showcases and stuff like that. And 292 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,980 they're like, that's exactly, I think you're, I 293 00:14:16,980 --> 00:14:18,980 think you paint like me where you want the best, 294 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,820 like each minute should be the best that I possibly 295 00:14:20,820 --> 00:14:22,120 can. Well, that's the way I feel. I 296 00:14:22,128 --> 00:14:24,880 like, I'm very slow with my army building and like, 297 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,580 I haven't even got a complete army yet because 298 00:14:26,580 --> 00:14:29,820 I'm still painting massive amounts of things the best 299 00:14:29,820 --> 00:14:32,120 of my ability. Cause I feel like each one of 300 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,280 these miniatures deserves, you know, deserves, deserves 301 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,720 an eyeball. That's at least what they get 302 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,080 from me. Well, you're very generous. I 303 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,920 don't paint eyeballs on my guys, apart from the 304 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,100 carrot. Hey, they still look, they all 305 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:45,720 still look great. So I think I saw you scaven 306 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,300 on me and that was like, you know, beautiful. So. 307 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,700 Yeah. No, thanks, mate. That's 308 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:53,300 actually, that's landed in, in America now with its 309 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:56,400 new owner. So James is very, very happy. 310 00:14:56,820 --> 00:14:58,160 He showed me some pictures of 311 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,660 it now that he's unboxed it and everything. So 312 00:15:00,660 --> 00:15:02,720 I'm really glad it made it, made it there with 313 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,020 him. And he's happy. He's 314 00:15:04,020 --> 00:15:07,300 so excited about, you know, fielding his scaven up by 315 00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:08,820 his first war hammer army. He's 316 00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:10,200 never had an army before. So. 317 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,220 Oh yeah. He's lucky. He's 318 00:15:12,220 --> 00:15:12,960 got one of the doors. Yeah. 319 00:15:13,300 --> 00:15:14,780 It looks, it looks beautiful. They 320 00:15:14,780 --> 00:15:16,660 even are screaming bells. I paint the screaming bells 321 00:15:16,660 --> 00:15:18,500 of the channel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 322 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,820 Yeah. Like scaven have plenty of fun 323 00:15:20,820 --> 00:15:22,720 to paint up. So I actually got to paint up 324 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,220 some more. I've got a couple sitting here 325 00:15:24,220 --> 00:15:26,960 ready to go. So yeah. Now 326 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,500 I can tell you're an artist, mate, because you 327 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:30,220 said you came into the hobby a couple of years 328 00:15:30,220 --> 00:15:32,220 ago, but boy, you're a bloody good painter, mate. 329 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,920 Geez, you're nothing else does 330 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,740 paint. I think I feel like, yeah, 331 00:15:37,780 --> 00:15:39,380 it's kind of weird because the people go to me like, 332 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,960 you know, I feel like my first miniature is like, 333 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,840 was very much like everyone else's kind of first 334 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,020 miniature. But it's weird because like I 335 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:50,600 did like mainly digital illustration. I 336 00:15:50,608 --> 00:15:52,580 don't really, you know, I do the odd canvas work 337 00:15:52,580 --> 00:15:54,240 like back in the day, like, you know, when I was 338 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,260 in, well, back when I was at uni and stuff like 339 00:15:57,260 --> 00:15:59,060 that. That's a few years ago now, I 340 00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:01,400 did a bit of painting and stuff like that, but it 341 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,180 was mainly like pop art and stuff like that. But 342 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:07,220 I just feel like I'm very lucky because I really, I 343 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:09,480 try to take as much in as I can and I feel like 344 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,720 there's so many good tutorials out there that 345 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,840 it's kind of like, I just, when I'm looking at it, 346 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,620 and I kind of understand how the kind of the color 347 00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:19,520 theory works, like that's one thing I'm like, I 348 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,680 guess I'm lucky with the background design, you kind 349 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,300 of understand the color theory works and what kind 350 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:26,040 of works well with each other and where to bring 351 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,560 kind of tones and highlights up to. And 352 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,220 for me, for the hobby, I guess that's where I'm kind 353 00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:33,660 of at now. It's like, I'm more of a 354 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:36,600 painter, I'd say, like I love painting and I really, 355 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,680 I think like, you know, I see some of these classical 356 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,620 models, especially like chaos force stuff, like I 357 00:16:41,620 --> 00:16:44,560 really love for those guys now, because I just, the 358 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,420 sculpts and everything about them just really sings to 359 00:16:47,420 --> 00:16:48,960 me. And I came into thinking I'd 360 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,200 be painting a full high off for me. And 361 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,060 now I've painted, I've kind of like tried to paint 362 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:55,020 every single thing I can. And 363 00:16:55,020 --> 00:16:57,920 now I'm like in love with chaos, chaos, I don't know 364 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,160 why they just they really, I feel like when I'm 365 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,000 painting, you know, maybe the colors of them and 366 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,800 stuff like that go really well together, the blacks 367 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,960 and the, you know, and the reds and whatever. But 368 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,180 anyway, back to my point, is like, I kind of, I am 369 00:17:10,180 --> 00:17:12,099 lucky that I kind of understand color theory 370 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:14,720 there, but it has been trial and error. And 371 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,560 you do, I feel like they're having a YouTube 372 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,800 channel as well. It really motivates me to 373 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,480 paint. And I want to kind of showcase 374 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,819 these miniatures in the best possible way they, you 375 00:17:25,819 --> 00:17:27,740 know, the best possible way they can be seen. So, 376 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,180 but yeah, it is, you know, like you understand, it 377 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:33,700 does, after a while it does become tedious and 378 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:34,940 you're painting so much. And 379 00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:36,500 I think I'm good. I think I'm developing a 380 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:41,920 hunch now. So that's good, mate. Your 381 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,920 miniatures, are they in display in your room? Are 382 00:17:44,928 --> 00:17:50,460 they in a cabinet? Yeah, I've got a couple here. Of 383 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:52,220 course, of course people have seen these on your 384 00:17:52,220 --> 00:17:54,100 channel at Ambulance. Yeah, yeah. I've 385 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:55,160 only got a couple here. I've 386 00:17:55,168 --> 00:17:58,380 got like a Skarsnik. Yeah, Skarsnik. Got 387 00:17:58,380 --> 00:18:00,440 a couple there. I've got my flame kind of, 388 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,560 which I painted. Oh, I love that. Yeah. 389 00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:04,040 That's my favorite model, mate. You 390 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,260 did a beautiful job on that. It's 391 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:07,100 beautiful. Yeah, that's a great model. Then 392 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:09,420 I got obviously some Kales, all this and some, sorry 393 00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:11,920 about the lighting and the lighting. That's 394 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,280 cool. I want people to go to your 395 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,180 YouTube channel and check it out or the Instagram to 396 00:18:15,180 --> 00:18:17,820 check out the photos of your work because I'm 397 00:18:17,820 --> 00:18:20,800 pretty sure most people would know about Ambulance 398 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,840 of Doom miniatures, but then it sort of just 399 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,760 popped up in my feed one day and of course the name 400 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,060 struck me straight away like Ambulance of Doom. I'm 401 00:18:28,060 --> 00:18:30,780 a massive door fan. Yeah. I was like, oh cool. I'll 402 00:18:30,788 --> 00:18:34,380 check that out. Yeah. And then, you know, no, 403 00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:36,540 sorry. I was just going to say, I 404 00:18:36,548 --> 00:18:38,280 was very curious to what it was. I 405 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,360 saw obviously imagery of, you know, like the old 406 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:44,140 Hero Hammer models and then I saw you painting them 407 00:18:44,140 --> 00:18:45,720 and I thought, oh, that's great. It 408 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,320 just came by chance. I didn't know you from 409 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,160 anywhere else. It just came up in my feed 410 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,200 on YouTube one day. So I was lucky to discover 411 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,740 you. And then I saw how successful 412 00:18:57,740 --> 00:19:00,560 your videos were and your channel was growing. And 413 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,100 I thought, well, that's really good to see that, 414 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:05,580 you know, such a niche thing has become really, 415 00:19:05,580 --> 00:19:07,560 really popular. But I think it's to do with 416 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,260 not only your painting videos, but your style. You 417 00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:12,260 know, you have that sort of graphical presence in 418 00:19:12,260 --> 00:19:15,980 your, in the logos and the backgrounds and in the way 419 00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:18,100 you present the videos and that kind of thing, which 420 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:20,920 is kind of your own thing, which is really nice. So 421 00:19:20,928 --> 00:19:23,140 yeah, it's kind of like, I feel like there was a bit 422 00:19:23,140 --> 00:19:25,180 of a gap, you know, when I came into this, like the 423 00:19:25,180 --> 00:19:27,580 gap, like there's obviously, you know, a lot of one of 424 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:30,340 the fantasy old world type of channels out there. But 425 00:19:30,340 --> 00:19:32,740 when I saw the channel about only about a year 426 00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:34,780 ago, but it was like, I feel like there was nothing 427 00:19:34,780 --> 00:19:36,620 that, you know, you get like a lot of other 428 00:19:36,620 --> 00:19:38,540 channels that are kind of bigger and they put a lot 429 00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:42,320 of production into their things. I 430 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,080 felt like one of the fantasy didn't have that. 431 00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:46,680 It didn't have like a lot of 432 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,140 channels, but it didn't have like the kind of the 433 00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:52,700 broader appeal, I guess, to, if that makes sense, 434 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,540 you know what I mean? Like the, like, yeah, I know 435 00:19:56,540 --> 00:19:58,380 that's why I kind of made the channel, why I wanted 436 00:19:58,380 --> 00:20:00,320 it to be like, I was sitting there going, like, 437 00:20:00,340 --> 00:20:02,340 I want something a bit more poppy, or do you know 438 00:20:02,340 --> 00:20:04,180 what I mean? Like a bit more like energy to 439 00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:06,520 it. And yeah, so I was just like, 440 00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:08,240 my Mrs actually made me do it. She's 441 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,600 like, just do it, you know, just get it to 442 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,860 camera. Do it, like, just go for it. 443 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:14,380 And I didn't have a camera. I 444 00:20:14,388 --> 00:20:15,560 didn't really know how to use them. Like 445 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,180 I didn't know how to use Premiere Pro, but that's 446 00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:20,180 basically about it. But you know, like, from there, 447 00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:22,100 it's kind of like, got a bit the production called 448 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:24,320 on, he's got to do better since I first started and, 449 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,180 you know, sound and stuff like that. But 450 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:29,000 it's, yeah, like she told me, you know, get a camera 451 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,720 and just start filming. I was like, I'm not going to 452 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,760 do this, I'm not going to do this. And 453 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,840 then she was just like, just get the camera, film 454 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,020 something, and then see how you feel. And 455 00:20:37,020 --> 00:20:38,600 then I just started going from there. And 456 00:20:38,608 --> 00:20:42,860 then, yeah, like I put a video up and I just, yeah, 457 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,740 I started doing a few more little videos and people 458 00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:46,820 have started like, you know, getting, like a bit 459 00:20:46,820 --> 00:20:49,340 of positive positivity to it, you know, happy. And 460 00:20:49,340 --> 00:20:51,640 the main thing about the channel is like being like, 461 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,160 I suppose for me is just like having a kind of like 462 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,600 a good vibe to it, like kind of like a nostalgic 463 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,300 vibe to it where, you know, you watch it and you 464 00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:03,560 kind of, it's, there's no drama is nothing, it's just 465 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,080 literally painting old metal mitties to the best of the 466 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,980 ability. And, and I guess, because I 467 00:21:09,980 --> 00:21:11,800 missed the out on that when I was a kid, mom and 468 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,400 dad didn't have as much money when I was a kid. 469 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:14,380 So I never kind of bought the 470 00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:16,700 miniatures that I wanted or anything like that. So 471 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:19,380 I'm getting them all now, you know, like 30 over 30, 472 00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:20,660 and I'm buying them all now. So, 473 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,160 you know, and it's kind of giving people like, so when 474 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,460 people look at it, they are like, I remember that. 475 00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:25,580 And they remember that 476 00:21:25,580 --> 00:21:27,320 miniature, you know, like, I remember that. And 477 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,640 it's like a page of the flame cannon and people 478 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,560 just like, this is my favorite miniature. This 479 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,840 is like, you know, this is the greatest and, and 480 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,280 someone actually get a really nice person gifted 481 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,180 that to me because they wanted to see it on the 482 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:40,080 channel. So it's just, yeah, just, and 483 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,360 I, and I couldn't find like, for me, it's getting, 484 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,300 I suppose, you know, this is as well as getting 485 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:47,660 harder and harder. The prices, they're going up 486 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:51,400 and up and up. So it's, it's nice that people 487 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,120 are doing that and they want to see their models 488 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,120 like, you know, painted and stuff like that. So, 489 00:21:55,660 --> 00:21:57,940 yeah, it's, that's what the kind of channel I guess is 490 00:21:57,940 --> 00:22:00,540 about. It's about good times, take it 491 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:03,220 easy, you know, take a lot of just watching, watching 492 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:05,420 good, the classic minis get painted. So 493 00:22:05,428 --> 00:22:09,120 yeah. So yeah, I think, it's been 494 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,000 lots of fun. So yeah. No, 495 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,320 I think, I think it's definitely a niche. I 496 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,360 think you really, like I said, you present it really 497 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,480 well. I think people really, you 498 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,680 know, have enjoyed the stuff, the quality of your 499 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,860 work and your production value has really gone up. 500 00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:23,980 Like I can't really compare it 501 00:22:23,980 --> 00:22:25,660 to the earlier stuff. I just want to know from 502 00:22:25,660 --> 00:22:28,340 your recent stuff. Don't watch the early stuff. 503 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,180 Don't worry about that. I 504 00:22:29,188 --> 00:22:33,580 want to watch it. Did you just say you started 505 00:22:33,580 --> 00:22:36,720 12 months ago? So I started, I started 506 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,520 painting a bit over 12 months ago now. The 507 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,240 channel, the channel will start at 12 months? The 508 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,320 channel is about to hit 12 months. Really? 509 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,020 The channel is about, yeah, the channel is about to 510 00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:47,440 hit 12 months. So what is it? What's 511 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,140 the date? Yeah, I'm going on about 12 512 00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:50,900 months now. Amazing. That's great. You're 513 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:54,340 kicking ass then because you got like 7 .6 ,000 subs 514 00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:58,880 and you're averaging about 3000, 4000 views of video. 515 00:22:59,060 --> 00:23:00,620 That's great, mate. Yeah, 516 00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:02,700 just, it's, I don't know what it is. I 517 00:23:02,708 --> 00:23:04,320 don't know. I don't know what the secret 518 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,200 is. People keep saying to me like, 519 00:23:07,340 --> 00:23:08,900 I've got another mate, he's got a YouTube video. He's 520 00:23:08,908 --> 00:23:09,920 like, hey, I'm like, I don't know. And 521 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,460 I just, I think like, I think people react like 522 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,760 they just like the, maybe I don't know, maybe it's 523 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,400 the thumbnails. I don't, I don't really know. 524 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Half the time I sit there and 525 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,840 I'm like, why they, why, why? And 526 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,860 it's like, it's really, I did like an Avalanze, 527 00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:25,020 paint, Avalanze, Avalanze, small Avalanze, I got like 528 00:23:25,020 --> 00:23:28,320 a Empire kit. Yeah. And it took me like three 529 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,700 weeks. We had like a, because I'm 530 00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:31,320 from the North Queensland, Australia, and it's like, 531 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,980 you know, cyclone, we had cyclones and flooding. And 532 00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:36,780 it's kind of hard, you know, this as well, like 533 00:23:36,780 --> 00:23:39,920 YouTube algorithm is a bit of a beast. I'm 534 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,760 sitting there and I'm like, I got, and it took me 535 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,180 three weeks to paint this. And 536 00:23:43,180 --> 00:23:45,000 I was like, I had kind of that anxiety. I'm 537 00:23:45,008 --> 00:23:46,940 like, I was trying, I tried to produce a video a 538 00:23:46,940 --> 00:23:48,980 week. That's like my go, I've had a 539 00:23:48,980 --> 00:23:50,760 few weeks now, but you try, you know, you just 540 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,780 want to keep people kind of interested and, yeah, I 541 00:23:52,780 --> 00:23:54,340 know what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. And 542 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:56,520 I just remember trying to paint these guys and I had 543 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,700 like 10 of these Avalanze art, like trying to paint 544 00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:00,320 them as best as I can. And 545 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,600 there's a cyclone blowing outside, power out. And 546 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,460 I'm just sitting there, the channel's gone. Like 547 00:24:06,468 --> 00:24:09,280 it's over. Like it's completely over. Like 548 00:24:09,288 --> 00:24:12,180 it's done. The end times. Yeah. 549 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:16,320 And then I put the video out and it did really 550 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,480 well. I think it's probably highest 551 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,840 performing video. So yeah, great. Yeah. 552 00:24:19,940 --> 00:24:21,840 It's really good. And then I think people really 553 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,100 love, I don't know, I feel like a lot of people love 554 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,140 empire. Like a lot of people out there 555 00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:28,300 really, they love their empire. I 556 00:24:28,308 --> 00:24:30,580 get lots of messages. Like I go through Instagram, 557 00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:32,060 lots of messages when you're painting empire 558 00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:33,920 again. When are you doing this? When 559 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,900 are you doing that? And it's mainly all empire sims 560 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:40,480 cyclones. So I love their empire. But 561 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,300 I love it as well. I love it. That's 562 00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:44,500 the thing as well. Like I guess is like probably 563 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,360 like yourself. But I love like every single 564 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,860 army. There's something about every single 565 00:24:47,860 --> 00:24:50,760 army that kind of appeals to me. And 566 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,560 I want to paint them all. Like 567 00:24:52,568 --> 00:24:55,640 it's still to have my favorites. But 568 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,220 yeah, it's kind of like that. Well, 569 00:24:59,260 --> 00:25:02,920 everything except Lizardman and Dark Ills for me. Oh, 570 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,220 really? Yeah. I literally there are 571 00:25:06,220 --> 00:25:10,800 reasons to it. There are reasons. I 572 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,260 don't know. Just it's a bit of it. It's 573 00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:14,240 a bit of an ongoing joke. Yeah, 574 00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:18,580 like, well, for people who don't know, I'm sure a lot 575 00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:20,280 of people who know who follow me on the Chronic 576 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,140 Command, but I actually paint, I actually painted 577 00:25:23,140 --> 00:25:28,300 the original Lizardman in the studio in England in 578 00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:31,600 1996 for the fifth edition boxers. And 579 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,140 I bloody hated them. I love fourth edition. That's 580 00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:38,900 impressive. That's impressive. That's 581 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:40,700 impressive. And I thought, what are these 582 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:42,800 hideous looking shitheads of things? Like 583 00:25:42,808 --> 00:25:44,600 they were just effing terrible. You 584 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,080 know, I was so disheartened because I'm like, you know, 585 00:25:47,180 --> 00:25:48,720 I'm big into fourth edition. Fourth 586 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,120 edition was like the best, greatest thing ever for 587 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,620 Warhammer. And then suddenly, I got this 588 00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:57,100 horrible load of, you know, Lizardman and I think it 589 00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,140 was this Lizardman, no skinks. And 590 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,340 the other guys got the Bretonian stuff, which are 591 00:26:01,340 --> 00:26:03,460 beautiful. The Bretonians are wonderful, 592 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,300 the cavalry, the arches, the beautiful metal 593 00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:10,160 character models and all that kind of stuff. They 594 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,740 got all that. I got lumped with all this 595 00:26:11,740 --> 00:26:14,820 horrible Lizardman guys. Isn't 596 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:17,340 that funny that I, they're the first miniatures I ever 597 00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:20,480 laid in my life. And I, and that's what kind of 598 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,920 got me into the hobby. Like 599 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,680 that's what like that's my double date. I 600 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,520 remember like 10 skinks in a box and I'm like, what 601 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,520 is this? And my kid up the streets 602 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,780 like, oh, Lizardman, that's amazing. You 603 00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:34,020 know, like they gave me hooked and you hate them. 604 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,000 That was kind of the end. That 605 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,580 was the kind of the end for me, you know, like, a 606 00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:42,060 better course. You know, I went on to play 607 00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:45,580 fifth edition with my night goblin army. And 608 00:26:45,580 --> 00:26:49,100 I think one, one of the guys or one of his wife, 609 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,980 I think his wife had Lizardman. She 610 00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:54,820 played Lizardman. Yeah, Dark Elves. I've 611 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:56,960 never really enjoyed, apart from the third edition, 612 00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,740 Allie Morrison ones he did like for third edition, why 613 00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:01,660 am I though beautiful, but the fourth one, four 614 00:27:01,660 --> 00:27:04,020 edition ones I just cannot stand. Yeah, 615 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:09,140 I just, I, I, I did you, you painted some. Yeah, 616 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,360 I just, I, the next video out this week, which I'm 617 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,440 doing, I'm doing a bit of a collab with another 618 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,620 painter. He won, he came, yeah, he's, 619 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:21,700 he's named, on the line, is called Drinking Gang and 620 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:23,580 he competed in Oldham Demon last year. You 621 00:27:23,588 --> 00:27:25,680 might have seen that had like an elder, far seer, 622 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,740 beautifully painted. He came, and he came second 623 00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:30,860 in the Darren Latham 90s space marine painting 624 00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:32,980 challenge. So I got him a little into, 625 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,340 we kind of did a mini swap. So 626 00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:38,000 he loves his Dark Elves. So 627 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,920 the first Dark Elves I ever painted and it's a 628 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,720 sixth edition dreadboard and he gave me dread because 629 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,800 I, I, like, I never painted Dark Elves before. 630 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,420 And there's something about the 631 00:27:48,420 --> 00:27:50,620 sculpts, they're like real sharp from, I think it's 632 00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:52,680 around the sixth edition, I couldn't be wrong, but they 633 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,600 got like really real sharp features and they're like 634 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,560 the hairs like real, it was, it was a bit of a 635 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,280 nightmare and I was a bit like, I was a bit, you 636 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,140 know, like hazard. I'm like, oh, should I paint 637 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:05,800 this one for him? Because we had to pick a miniature 638 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560 and kind of paint it and yeah, and purple as well. 639 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:09,360 Like I've never really painted 640 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,180 that much purple before and I was a bit of tearing my 641 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:14,500 hair out. It was a bit of a nightmare, 642 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:15,700 but it got there in the end. I'm 643 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:17,000 pretty proud of it, but yeah. Oh, 644 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,640 good, mate. Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, 645 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:21,720 that's good. I'm glad you made him some 646 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,160 collaborations out there with him. He's 647 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,320 a really good painter who did that. I 648 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,260 follow the Olden Demon stuff with great curiosity 649 00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:31,460 and admiration because actually the guy who won 650 00:28:31,460 --> 00:28:34,780 it lives in Japan here. I've 651 00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:37,060 been meaning to catch up with him to just see, I 652 00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:38,420 just want to see that model. Like 653 00:28:38,420 --> 00:28:40,560 I'll be just amazing to look at that, that wall 654 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,120 dance he done. It's just incredible. 655 00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:44,260 Breathtasing. I did a wall dancer as 656 00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:45,900 well last year. I picked the right miniature, 657 00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:48,420 but I didn't win. I was like, damn. Oh, 658 00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:51,540 mate, it's a tough, it's a very, very tough bunch of 659 00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:52,980 painters you're up against. So 660 00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:54,660 I'm, I hope to do it this year. I 661 00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:59,040 try to do Nagash last year and just couldn't make it 662 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,460 in time. So I hope to do, hope to 663 00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:03,160 finish it off this year and submit it this year. 664 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,300 Oh, awesome, man. I'm 665 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:05,740 looking forward to that. I'm 666 00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:07,840 looking forward. I really, I really think you 667 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,960 should end like every awesome, so definitely. It's 668 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,060 a real, it's really fun. It's 669 00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:13,680 a real fun competition. I feel like just the vibe 670 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,840 for the month is like, you know, it's all all 671 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,100 happened. You just, it kind of, on the 672 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,320 social media, you kind of like clogs up your feed. 673 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,620 You just see so much of it. 674 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,020 And it really, for me anyway, 675 00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,160 it really gets me going for that, you know, for 676 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,600 that time of year. So I'm doing two entries this 677 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,160 year because this year I'm pretty sure they're doing, 678 00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:33,780 you can have a sci -fi and a fantasy model. So 679 00:29:33,788 --> 00:29:36,560 I'm going for two. I'm going for two. And 680 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,240 I'll show you the fantasy. This 681 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:48,080 one request. Yes. Yeah, the dwarf troll. In 682 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,700 shrink, there you go. Bloody 683 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:51,580 hell. How much? Trade 684 00:29:51,580 --> 00:29:55,660 for that. Mate, I forgot it for a birthday 685 00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:59,580 present from mum last year. Bless 686 00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:03,120 her. So yeah, so I got that. So 687 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,780 that's, that's going to be for this year for the 688 00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:09,640 fantasy and I'm painting a space for the 40k and I'm 689 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,860 going to do some banners, paint some banners, more 690 00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:15,720 and yeah, do that. So sitting here in my desk 691 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,440 staring at me, but I feel like I've, I've been up 692 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,000 more than I can chew lately because I'm trying 693 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,660 to do four things at once right now. And 694 00:30:22,660 --> 00:30:25,860 I usually, I try to do everything one, like one 695 00:30:25,860 --> 00:30:28,060 video at a time, but I've got like, I've got a 696 00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:31,200 Mordheim, a Mordheim thing I'm building right, Borg 697 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 that I'm building right now next to me and I've got 698 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440 this guy here that and yeah, just everything going 699 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,080 on every way. Right. That's good, mate. That's 700 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,520 excellent. You're keeping yourself busy and 701 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,460 that's great. It's, it's, uh, yeah, it's really 702 00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:43,680 good to see you're so productive and you're trying 703 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,600 to make one video a week, which is a lot of work 704 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,260 considering how much it goes, that goes into the 705 00:30:49,260 --> 00:30:51,620 time goes into making something like that apart 706 00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:53,580 from doing your day job. So 707 00:30:53,588 --> 00:30:57,560 I'm glad that the, yeah, the viewership is really 708 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,380 high and you get a lot of responses that makes it 709 00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:02,460 worth, well, you know, worth for you as well, 710 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:04,980 that you know, you're getting, you know, good 711 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:07,260 response and people enjoying your content. So 712 00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:10,020 that's the main thing. Uh, and you get a shot, you 713 00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:11,940 know, thanks to you, thanks to your wife, you gave it 714 00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:14,340 a shot and here you are, mate, you know, so. Yeah, 715 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200 it's, it's, yeah, it's very, it's, I think that's 716 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,320 like, especially for me as well. It's 717 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,320 like, I'm not, I know I'm not, I know I'm kind of 718 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,700 like, new to the hobby in terms of, in terms of like 719 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:26,520 practicing painting and stuff like that. And, 720 00:31:27,020 --> 00:31:29,740 and, but I still, for me, it's like, when I was 721 00:31:29,740 --> 00:31:31,960 young about, I still have those, you know, those 722 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,040 memories of like, oh, like, you know, golden demon back 723 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,820 in the day and, and, and especially like, there's a 724 00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:41,620 few pieces that kind of like sing out to me, I 725 00:31:41,628 --> 00:31:44,620 still remember, I still like love and, you know, 726 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:46,340 it's, it's, it's weird. It's 727 00:31:46,340 --> 00:31:48,200 a weird thing is when you're, when you're nine, 728 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,280 10, 11, you really want to be involved in something, 729 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,960 but you don't have the money, you know, it's, it's 730 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,260 a bit of an expensive kind of hobby and, and stuff 731 00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:55,460 like that. And now I get to the second 732 00:31:55,460 --> 00:31:57,640 chance to kind of do it again. And 733 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,660 I kind of, and I get to do it really, like, I get 734 00:31:59,660 --> 00:32:01,180 to do, I feel like I get to do it well and do it 735 00:32:01,180 --> 00:32:02,180 the way I want to do it. So 736 00:32:02,180 --> 00:32:03,800 I'm very, very lucky to like that. And 737 00:32:03,808 --> 00:32:06,940 I, and I'm happy because I'm learning so much new 738 00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:09,020 things from all these amazing painters and, you 739 00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:12,000 know, so, yeah, I got to pick your brain one day 740 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,260 because I know that you entered in a golden demon, 741 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:18,760 didn't you? Did you win? Yeah, 742 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:22,120 I entered the first golden demon, won the command 743 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,760 group with my nightgown command group. Yeah, 744 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,400 yeah. The trophies are behind me. 745 00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:28,680 It's interesting because someone, 746 00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:32,240 like when Wellington, my mate Wellington, can go, oh 747 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,980 man, you got golden demon trophies. Yeah, 748 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:36,680 yeah. Like they don't really mean so 749 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,060 much to me. It's, it's a funny thing. Like 750 00:32:39,060 --> 00:32:41,460 I've thrown trophies away. Like 751 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,420 not golden demon ones, but I've thrown other ones. I 752 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:44,580 just have a whole heap of them. I 753 00:32:44,588 --> 00:32:45,840 just chucked them out. I thought, what the hell am 754 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,700 I going to do with them? I've, 755 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,540 I'm using one as a cheese platter. Oh 756 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:55,240 my God, I believe. That was for the corvus. That 757 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,400 was for the corvus bellae painting competition that my 758 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,020 friend here in Japan took my miniatures over there, 759 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,200 entered them in the painting competition because 760 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,460 I couldn't go to Spain to do it. I 761 00:33:07,460 --> 00:33:09,860 won it and they gave that what they did, they gave 762 00:33:09,860 --> 00:33:13,880 you like a, a wooden plaque that was basically 763 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,340 round and they sort of just engraved, you know, 764 00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:20,480 ITS, you know, miniature painting winner and they 765 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,900 gave me some brushes, which is very nice of them. I 766 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,580 don't think the competition was all that great, but I 767 00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:26,560 was really happy to get it. But 768 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,680 I thought, what am I going to do with this thing? So 769 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,040 I made it into a cheese platter. So 770 00:33:30,048 --> 00:33:31,820 I cut my cheese and crackers and everything on 771 00:33:31,820 --> 00:33:38,500 it. At least you get a use out 772 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:40,020 of it. Yeah. Yeah. I 773 00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:42,560 mean, these things behind me, I mean, I can, I can 774 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,760 appreciate them now more, but at the time was like, 775 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,460 what I'm going to do with these things? It 776 00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:49,260 is a pain in the ass. It is getting in the way, you 777 00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:51,200 know what I mean? So I much rather win the 778 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,980 sword and the sword is kind of like the Holy 779 00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:55,340 Grail, which of course, of course now I'll never 780 00:33:55,340 --> 00:33:59,600 attain because golden demon now is not what it was in 781 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,460 the 90s. It is something way beyond 782 00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:05,940 that. It's become kind of like a, you 783 00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:09,340 know, you have to be like a Michelangelo to paint. So 784 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:12,780 incredible, you know. I even like, you know, you 785 00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:14,719 kind of, you always compare yourself to other, that's a 786 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,060 natural thing. And like, I look at photos of 787 00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:18,280 my miniatures, I'm just sitting there with my 788 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,679 miniatures and I'm like, I don't know where near, and 789 00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:21,880 I don't know about you doing for a short amount 790 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,480 of time, but it's like, I suppose to me, it's kind 791 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,780 of like becoming, you never stood out of this way, but 792 00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:28,520 it's always become a goal to get better and better 793 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,199 and try, you know, and then, and then maybe one 794 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,100 day, like kind of like a bucket listing, you know, 795 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,400 just to go over to a golden demon or something 796 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,020 like that and have some fun and just compete just 797 00:34:38,020 --> 00:34:40,139 for the sake of it. But I'm looking at it and I'm 798 00:34:40,139 --> 00:34:41,719 like, man, I got no chance. So, 799 00:34:43,939 --> 00:34:46,440 maybe I should be more, I should be more than born 800 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,900 earlier, maybe in the 90s, it would have been a way 801 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:53,420 better time for me. So. Well, in Australia, it 802 00:34:53,428 --> 00:34:55,620 wasn't, I think the competition was not as 803 00:34:55,620 --> 00:34:59,840 fierce, but in the UK, France, Germany, you know, 804 00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:02,260 all those Spain, you know, they had really, really top 805 00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:06,020 painters there and it was just so hard to, well, I 806 00:35:06,020 --> 00:35:08,440 never, I never entered overseas, but in Australia, 807 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,540 at least you had some kind of chance, you know, there 808 00:35:10,540 --> 00:35:13,820 was, because even the store level, like they would 809 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,940 just, you know, people would bring in the entries 810 00:35:15,940 --> 00:35:18,780 and if I was the only, I think for Lord of the 811 00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:20,500 Rings, I got two there for Lord of the Rings, because 812 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:23,080 no one else entered. There you go. It 813 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,600 was like automatically qualified. I 814 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,620 think I went down to Sydney and there was like 815 00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:29,960 very little entries for Lord of the Rings, so I 816 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,420 won gold in two of those entries for two of those 817 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:37,200 years. And I think one was for like 818 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600 an open competition, I painted like an inquisitor, 819 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,640 old hammer inquisitor for him on a diorama base and 820 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,060 that kind of thing. That was a cool category, 821 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,000 because that was like basically anything, you 822 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,180 could enter anything you wanted. And 823 00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:51,860 I think it was like old miniatures only. Yeah. 824 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,960 That was a really interesting category. But 825 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,240 yeah, I've had sort of ups and downs at Golding, 826 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,240 because during that time, I was really into doing non 827 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:06,600 -metallic medals and they, the judge at the time, 828 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:09,060 just didn't like non -metallic medals. He 829 00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:12,260 only liked metallic, so my entries sort of got pushed 830 00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:14,880 down, down below and I sort of gave up. And 831 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,440 now it's all the rage. Yeah, 832 00:36:16,460 --> 00:36:17,320 it's all the rage now. Yeah, 833 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,740 I feel like I do true metallic medals and I'm 834 00:36:19,740 --> 00:36:21,720 like, I feel like I'm like, oh, shit, like, and 835 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,760 they're hard to photograph true metallic medals because 836 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,940 it just looks like a bit of a ball in some light. 837 00:36:26,020 --> 00:36:26,900 I'm like, oh, this looks great 838 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:28,880 while I'm painting it. And then I'm sitting there. Oh, 839 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,220 yeah, it's completely changed. It's 840 00:36:30,220 --> 00:36:33,720 completely totally totally changed. But 841 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,600 even I attempted a non -metallic medal paint, I'm 842 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,740 like, oh, I'll try and master true metallic medals 843 00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:43,720 and then I'll move on. So yeah, I mean, it's good 844 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,840 for me because I haven't really done true metallics 845 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,520 for such a long time, but I've enjoyed doing it 846 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,340 because all my commissions are true metallic because 847 00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:53,660 it's all done in the 90s style, you know. So 848 00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:57,000 it's been nice coming back to it because what I do 849 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,980 now is just basically do the same as what I do 850 00:36:59,980 --> 00:37:02,900 with non -metallic medals. I blend colors in, I put 851 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,380 shading in and highlights and all that kind of 852 00:37:05,380 --> 00:37:07,480 stuff. So it's kind of very similar, 853 00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:10,820 but obviously have that metallic, you know. Yeah, 854 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,580 I think that's a hard, that's a really hard thing 855 00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:14,940 to learn for me, some kind of relatively new to it. 856 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,980 It was kind of understanding 857 00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:17,900 that. Like for me, you know, you see 858 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:19,400 tutorials or whatever and they're like, I'll just 859 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,600 throw in some, you know, like null norm or whatever. 860 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:24,800 Yeah, it's slapping on. And 861 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,480 then I was like, why isn't it looking like, you know, 862 00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:28,760 and then it took me a while to realize that is 863 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,720 the metallic medal is just a paint, like any other 864 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:35,140 bit of paint and it's, you know, you know, kind of 865 00:37:35,140 --> 00:37:36,860 glazing it and all that type of stuff. Like 866 00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:38,640 just use it as another, like any other type of 867 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,180 paint that you're going to do and edge highlighting 868 00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:42,720 and stuff like that. And that's how it never, never 869 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,100 really occurred to me until probably like a few months 870 00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,980 ago. And I was like, oh, that's how 871 00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:48,420 you do it. Like, you know, it's real weird, 872 00:37:48,580 --> 00:37:51,900 really different. So maybe I'm a bit slow in 873 00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:53,560 the true metallic medal department. So 874 00:37:53,567 --> 00:37:56,760 no, it's really hard. It's another challenge for me 875 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,100 too. It's been really challenging 876 00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:00,820 because I can see people who do it really well, 877 00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:04,080 just beautifully, you know, with the true metallics. I 878 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,360 can just get techniques that I just don't have 879 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,840 yet. So it's like another learning 880 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,220 curve. So I'm enjoying the challenge. 881 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,020 And we're going to talk more 882 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,380 about your painting and more about your channel. 883 00:38:15,580 --> 00:38:16,200 I'm going to ask you a 884 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,340 question about Lisbon when we come back. So 885 00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:21,000 we're going to go for a quick ad break and when we 886 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,380 come back, we're going to talk to you more, mate. If 887 00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:27,640 you are enjoying this podcast and the content on 888 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,200 the Crown of Command Games YouTube channel, then please 889 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,140 consider supporting me on Patreon. 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So 898 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,440 now I'm going to ask you about a question about 899 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,520 Lisbon when you first cast your eyes on the Lisbon 900 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,660 with your friend's house you talked about when you 901 00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:07,660 were up the street, he had his fifth edition box set. 902 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,900 What was your first impression 903 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:11,680 with them? Were they the good guys or the 904 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,120 bad guys? For me, they were the good 905 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,100 guys. Really? In my mind, they were the 906 00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:19,540 good guys. Yeah, it was a real weird day. 907 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:27,180 He had a box of skinks and 908 00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:28,880 then it was like a few weeks later, he got the 909 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,800 source for those like the shields, the copperish 910 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,960 looking shields, she painted up. For 911 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,020 me, they were like the good guys. I 912 00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:41,080 remember looking at them in the box, I don't know, 913 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,380 I've got an obsession with the boxes now. Kind 914 00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:45,880 of like you got yours on the wall there. I 915 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,640 love that. I suppose that the designer 916 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,260 in me loved that as well. I 917 00:39:50,268 --> 00:39:52,740 don't know, there was something about it that 918 00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:56,740 really just hit me and it became an obsession for a 919 00:39:56,740 --> 00:40:00,580 few years. But yeah, I love, I really did 920 00:40:00,580 --> 00:40:02,880 love the Lizbon and stuff like that. I 921 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,140 think he maybe got a slam age a bit later and I was 922 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:10,000 like, wow, this is crazy. I 923 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,220 suppose I could say before that's what kind of kick 924 00:40:13,220 --> 00:40:15,360 started it. And then he showed me white 925 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,820 dwarf magazines and stuff like that. I 926 00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:20,060 remember going to magazines, shops with data, whatever, 927 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,740 he'd be reading car muscle magazines, street machines, 928 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,940 stuff like that. And he'd be there and reading 929 00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:30,100 white dwarf magazines next to him. So 930 00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:31,580 it was kind of like this real, you know, it was a 931 00:40:31,580 --> 00:40:34,200 different time as well. It was very, the 90s were, 932 00:40:34,460 --> 00:40:36,340 and it's like, you know, you didn't have the 933 00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:38,800 internet, like the internet was in this early stage, 934 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,100 so it was really like getting that information. 935 00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:43,460 And I suppose it's what made 936 00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:45,780 me like, I kind of like loved mortarheim as well. 937 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,460 Like I really do like just 938 00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:49,800 reading white dwarf at a town cryer in there and 939 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,060 stuff like that. And it kind of built out what 940 00:40:52,060 --> 00:40:54,120 mortarheim is mean. And now I'm starting to get 941 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,940 into hobby and getting more into mortarheim now, as I 942 00:40:56,940 --> 00:40:59,060 remember, all the town cryers and stuff like that. 943 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,500 So yeah, it's weird how it 944 00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,080 just jumped from one to the next. A 945 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,760 little box of wisdom and started there. And 946 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,820 then it kind of jumped and, you know, it 947 00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:10,260 progressed for me. If that makes any sense. So 948 00:41:10,268 --> 00:41:13,260 yeah, yeah, sure, for sure, mate. We 949 00:41:13,260 --> 00:41:15,800 know you do a lot of painting videos and you 950 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,120 obviously that's your, your main passion is to paint 951 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,160 and collect models and that kind of thing, but do you 952 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,140 actually do any gaming? So when I played a couple 953 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:27,440 games when I was younger, and I just got to be 954 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,460 moved, we obviously say his mate had empire models and 955 00:41:30,460 --> 00:41:33,440 I just got to move around a unit here and there. But 956 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,440 I haven't really played too much. And 957 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,380 that's my next guy. I played a game with the 958 00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:40,080 Warmaster last year. And I went down to Pax down 959 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,380 in Melbourne, kind of like a gaming convention and 960 00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:45,300 stuff like that and hung out and took a look at a 961 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,300 few different tabletop games there. They 962 00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:49,220 had a real big tabletop game section, which was 963 00:41:49,220 --> 00:41:51,640 awesome. The Dungeons and Dragons and 964 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,240 stuff like that. And then I played a game with 965 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,600 Warmaster and I got absolutely flogged. Like 966 00:41:56,607 --> 00:42:00,140 I got out and the guy who played me, he had Skaven 967 00:42:00,140 --> 00:42:03,180 and I was Orcs and Goblins and he just like, he was 968 00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:06,260 a seasoned Warhammer fantasy player. And 969 00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:08,080 he just went so hard on me. I 970 00:42:08,087 --> 00:42:10,780 was just like, I was, I didn't even, I feel like I 971 00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:11,980 didn't even enjoy it that much. I 972 00:42:11,980 --> 00:42:13,740 was just like, oh, like what? And 973 00:42:13,747 --> 00:42:16,920 I just every role I had was just nothing like, not 974 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,840 void void void. I'm like, what's going on? What 975 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,060 am I doing wrong? So yeah. So 976 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:23,020 it's, and I put a thing is I do love watching a 977 00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:25,120 good battle report. I watched your, I watched 978 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,080 your Hyalp one at Hyalp and Darko one the other 979 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,480 week and it was, it was great, you know. So 980 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,900 I'm keen to get involved in that side of the hobby. 981 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,200 I love lore, like I love the 982 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,740 lore sort of things as well. I 983 00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:39,440 love my friends and stuff like that. I've 984 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,140 been really getting kind of getting involved in that. 985 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,340 And so yeah, for me, and 986 00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:45,240 that's what I like about the hobby as well, I guess 987 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:46,940 there's like so much to it. It's 988 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:50,180 like, sorry. Like, I suppose the end, the end 989 00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:53,260 game for me is playing, you know, playing some more 990 00:42:53,260 --> 00:42:54,960 games, stuff like that. I do live in a bit of a 991 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,980 rural area and there's a lot of 40k around me. I 992 00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:59,580 went to my local hobby shop, I got to drive into 993 00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:01,180 town for that. And I'm like, is there any, 994 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,960 I'm playing old world or anything like that right 995 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,980 now? And then he's like, oh, not 996 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:06,760 really. And I'm like, oh, shit. He's 997 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,020 like, you know, you're a kill team. And 998 00:43:08,020 --> 00:43:08,920 I'm like, now I'm good. So, 999 00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:12,220 so yeah, that's kind of the end game. I 1000 00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:13,660 still haven't finished painting my army, but I've 1001 00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:16,580 got so many me, I could probably paint like I've 1002 00:43:16,580 --> 00:43:18,440 got that many miniatures I could probably do. I 1003 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,240 got a scaven army, I could probably paint right now, 1004 00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,180 but that many miniatures of scaven miniatures and piles 1005 00:43:23,180 --> 00:43:25,660 and stuff like that. So I'm slowly getting there. 1006 00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:27,240 But yeah, the gaming side of 1007 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,400 the table, I suppose to me as well, the 1008 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,280 competitiveness, I get too competitive and I get real 1009 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,640 like, so I've got to kind of calm it down. So 1010 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,280 I got, by the time I do play a proper game, I'm 1011 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,700 going to be like ready to go. So 1012 00:43:42,899 --> 00:43:45,900 well, firstly, I'm, I'm, it's sad to hear about 1013 00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:48,900 your first experience playing Warmaster. Yeah. 1014 00:43:49,820 --> 00:43:51,860 Was it, was there any laughter from the scaven 1015 00:43:51,860 --> 00:43:54,200 player or was he just like, no, he would go, he 1016 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,240 was going hard. He was like, yeah, he was 1017 00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,680 like, it was real funny because he's just the, I 1018 00:43:59,687 --> 00:44:01,660 had one of the guys who was kind of like, you 1019 00:44:01,660 --> 00:44:05,180 know, I had this, the Warmaster kind of set up 1020 00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:06,680 and he was like, just going back and forth. He's 1021 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,300 just like looking at it and nodding his head like, 1022 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,220 or he just, you know, it's funny. I 1023 00:44:11,220 --> 00:44:13,940 look back, I like, I look back at my life, but I'm 1024 00:44:13,940 --> 00:44:17,460 like, man, I got told by, um, Wizards and Whiskey, 1025 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:19,140 he's on Instagram as well. Yeah, 1026 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,140 yeah, yeah, he's become a big fan of chat with him 1027 00:44:21,140 --> 00:44:23,260 and he told me, he's like, man, it's typical scaven 1028 00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:27,680 players like, typical scaven players. So 1029 00:44:29,060 --> 00:44:31,260 okay, whereas my good friend Kent Fury in 1030 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:33,120 Australia would say, you should have said to this 1031 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,640 guy, mate, don't be a dick. You 1032 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,120 should have said that. This is my first game. Come 1033 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,520 on, have a bit of a laugh. Let's 1034 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,620 eat some, let's eat some cheese rings and drink some 1035 00:44:42,620 --> 00:44:44,200 cola and just have a good time. He 1036 00:44:44,207 --> 00:44:46,000 was having fun though. He was having fun though. 1037 00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:50,480 Running off the table. Yeah, 1038 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,320 but it's sad because like, I think the emphasis for 1039 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,720 anybody who's coming to the table for the first time 1040 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:02,400 is to not do that, not table somewhere, but to 1041 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,220 encourage them and say, hey, you know, that's 1042 00:45:04,220 --> 00:45:05,280 great. You want to try it. Look, 1043 00:45:05,420 --> 00:45:09,600 you know, let's go through some basic mechanics or let 1044 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,100 me show you what your army can do or, you know, have 1045 00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:15,680 a bit of a jovial kind of presence about it. It's 1046 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,900 almost like, you know, being in the 90s when we 1047 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:20,040 worked at games workshop, that feeling when someone 1048 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,160 walked in for the first time, they saw this nice, 1049 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,320 nicely decorated table with miniatures and terrain and 1050 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,800 we would immerse them in the game slowly. Yeah. 1051 00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:32,300 But with, you know, making sounds, okay, the archers 1052 00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:34,480 will, you know, release that, oh, you know, the 1053 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,060 arrows and the there, fly down, oh, they kill the 1054 00:45:37,060 --> 00:45:39,740 logs, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. 1055 00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:41,880 And I think some people are very good at doing 1056 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,920 that and some people are horrible at doing that. I 1057 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,280 think I got unlucky. Yeah, I think so. I 1058 00:45:48,288 --> 00:45:50,520 think so. It's okay. Like 1059 00:45:50,528 --> 00:45:52,540 for me, and I suppose that's where like, even my 1060 00:45:52,540 --> 00:45:54,000 channel and stuff like that, like I'm trying to, 1061 00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:58,060 like, my hobby, my hobby, like, I love the hobby so 1062 00:45:58,060 --> 00:45:59,820 much and it's kind of like, I'm still new, like, 1063 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,260 I still feel like I'm new to it, but I've kind of 1064 00:46:02,260 --> 00:46:05,400 come into a setting which is like the seasons, you 1065 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,020 know, very seasoned hobbyists, but I've kind of 1066 00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:11,100 stepped into a realm of people who are kind of, 1067 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,180 you know, they've been here for years, like, you know, 1068 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,960 20 plus years, like, you know, the Gropnas, man. 1069 00:46:16,700 --> 00:46:17,860 Yeah. Yeah. So 1070 00:46:17,860 --> 00:46:19,560 it's always going to be harder for someone like me 1071 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,560 to kind of step in and be like, hey, you know, like, 1072 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,200 but that's what I love about it as well. Cause 1073 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,000 like everyone I've talked to is like so inviting and 1074 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,400 like, you know, they want like, it's kind of when 1075 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,140 it's a passion, you know, you both love something and 1076 00:46:31,140 --> 00:46:33,760 it doesn't matter. So it's like, it's good like 1077 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,360 that in a way as well. So yeah. Oh, 1078 00:46:36,540 --> 00:46:39,500 when you come to Japan next with your wife, I'll 1079 00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:41,640 give you the best game of Warhammer Fantasy battle you 1080 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,220 ever had, mate. Let's do it. Let's 1081 00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:44,160 do it. I'll do it. I'll 1082 00:46:44,167 --> 00:46:45,680 do it. I've got armies. Yeah. 1083 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,100 I've got armies. Yeah. I've got your high heels 1084 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:50,460 in me. High heels. Yeah. 1085 00:46:55,220 --> 00:46:58,080 I'm trying to build this chaos pool for me and man, 1086 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,060 they're so hard to get your hands on, you know, 1087 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,100 like just crazy. I've got a few, like a few 1088 00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:07,200 good years, but yeah, they're like, like it's, I 1089 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,180 don't know. It's weird. Like 1090 00:47:08,180 --> 00:47:10,680 I'm slowly high. I find high was really 1091 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,360 annoying to paint. I don't know if you like 1092 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,880 just the white and you know, there's so much true 1093 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,580 metallic metals, the whites and the blue. It's 1094 00:47:18,580 --> 00:47:20,920 very easy to make them not look good in a way. You 1095 00:47:20,928 --> 00:47:24,040 know, like it can be, yeah. So 1096 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,620 that's why I think I'm kind of like teetered 1097 00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:28,420 towards chaos. So I'd rather bring some chaos 1098 00:47:28,420 --> 00:47:30,260 to war. So maybe I'll put that bag or 1099 00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:32,020 something. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, 1100 00:47:32,620 --> 00:47:34,420 right now, I've got to do, I've got to do a studio 1101 00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:37,060 update, but my good friend Gordon, Gordon, one of my 1102 00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:39,440 patrons, he sent me an entire chaos to war of 1103 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,980 army to paint for him as a commission. So 1104 00:47:41,988 --> 00:47:44,720 that'll be the first time I've ever done it. I've 1105 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:46,880 never, never painted a chaos to war for army 1106 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,640 before or very little. I've painted a couple of test 1107 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,260 models for myself that someone, my friend, Matias, 1108 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,700 another patron sent me to paint. And 1109 00:47:54,700 --> 00:47:57,100 I painted those as just like kind of test models. 1110 00:47:57,740 --> 00:47:59,460 And yeah, really nice models. 1111 00:47:59,820 --> 00:48:00,580 I've got the, I've got the, 1112 00:48:00,580 --> 00:48:02,300 I've got the army book now, which is apparently 1113 00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:05,760 worth an absolute fortune on the, you can believe 1114 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,020 the price. It's just crazy now, but mate, 1115 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,940 there are, there are means and ways. So 1116 00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:12,820 I will, I will get in contact with you good sir. 1117 00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:15,080 And we will find that chaos to 1118 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,020 war for army for you. No problem. Okay. 1119 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,040 There's also really, you know, I mean, 3d, 3d 1120 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,700 printing is obviously a beast that's in the room 1121 00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:35,800 or the elephant in the room, I should say, but 1122 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,560 you know, Brawniac, a good mate of mine in Norway 1123 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,700 that I have good conversations every time 1124 00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:43,760 we're now discord and that kind of thing about his 1125 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,060 sculptor. He shows him designing 1126 00:48:46,060 --> 00:48:48,680 miniatures and, you know, he's, he's having great 1127 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,400 time designing this beautiful looking models and 1128 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,160 fate fate is L is another guy. He 1129 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,880 does some really good stuff as well. So 1130 00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:57,820 I've seen some really good proxies that like this is 1131 00:48:57,820 --> 00:49:00,100 for them just kind of matches up, you know, with 1132 00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:02,540 like that, like fourth edition one really well. 1133 00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:03,640 I've seen like just a bunch of 1134 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,720 people and I feel like that's exploding right now 1135 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:06,920 too. You know, obviously 3d printing 1136 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,700 is, yeah, so there's some really good stuff out there 1137 00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:11,880 too. I tried to sculpt something, 1138 00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:16,000 but man, I was useless. So yeah, it's one of those 1139 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,020 things. Yeah, that'd be really hard to 1140 00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:19,800 do, mate, but that's good that you're trying to 1141 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,740 sculpt. That's excellent. So 1142 00:49:21,740 --> 00:49:23,020 yeah, don't give up on it. Just 1143 00:49:23,028 --> 00:49:26,820 keep, keep, keep chipping away at it. And 1144 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:30,340 that's another great skill to put, you know, into 1145 00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:33,360 your, you know, either disassembly, modifying, 1146 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,960 converting process, you know, so that's definitely 1147 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,660 a bit of a bit of a bit of a different beast 1148 00:49:40,660 --> 00:49:43,860 sculpting. So absolutely, I've tried my 1149 00:49:43,860 --> 00:49:48,320 hand at it. And yeah, it just didn't, well, 1150 00:49:48,340 --> 00:49:49,700 I just didn't give the time. I 1151 00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:51,700 think it's for any kind of skill like that, you really 1152 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:55,760 need to be very enthusiastic or driven to 1153 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,780 do it. And I just don't feel that I 1154 00:49:57,780 --> 00:50:00,100 was very driven or enthusiastic about doing it. 1155 00:50:02,359 --> 00:50:04,520 So yeah, I think it suits 1156 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,200 certain people. I'm just more comfortable with 1157 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,460 painting. Learning a new skill set is just 1158 00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:10,140 not my, I'm getting too old, mate. That's 1159 00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:12,160 why I think that's why. You're 1160 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,840 young, you're fine. But I watched, I watched 1161 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,640 Brawniak do his digital sculpting and he said, oh, 1162 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,500 you should try, you know, it's really fun. And, 1163 00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:25,440 and looking at him doing it, yeah, it seems kind of 1164 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,760 easy, sort of just pulling, you're pulling, basically 1165 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,200 just pulling polygons around on a screen. But, 1166 00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:33,620 you know, it's not that simple. Obviously, 1167 00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:35,640 he's, you know, very talented, he can do it 1168 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,620 very well. And if he's, if you see me 1169 00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:39,440 painting, well, you're self painting, well, that looks 1170 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,380 easy, but when you actually do it, it's not as easy. 1171 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,360 So it's like everything, 1172 00:50:44,540 --> 00:50:47,500 everything's a skill, like even like, I feel like, 1173 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,540 you know, people assume they can do a lot of 1174 00:50:49,540 --> 00:50:52,300 things. It's, it's, it's much harder. And 1175 00:50:52,308 --> 00:50:55,200 everything, like you said, everything takes time and 1176 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,600 skills, like the same. And, you know, you're never 1177 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:58,720 going to jump into something. That's 1178 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:00,060 what, like, I guess the whole thing is like, you're 1179 00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:01,360 never going to jump into something, just thinking 1180 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,720 you're going to be able to do it the first time. And 1181 00:51:03,727 --> 00:51:05,760 it's like, I think it's our willingness to learn 1182 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,280 and, and, and, and listen to other people and, you 1183 00:51:08,288 --> 00:51:10,640 know, and really just take your time and kind of sit 1184 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,300 in it. So yeah, it is a bit of a 1185 00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:15,680 beast, that stuff. But even doing the digital, you 1186 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,760 know, digital, like you were saying, digital 1187 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,140 sculpting, I don't know if I've got too much, like, I 1188 00:51:21,140 --> 00:51:23,160 don't know, I don't know if I'd be, have the 1189 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,960 patience for that as well. I'd 1190 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,740 be a bit like, you know, so I tried with a, I 1191 00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:32,120 tried sculpting with like, just, um, what was it, you 1192 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,620 know, I tried to do a little kale storf and, and 1193 00:51:34,620 --> 00:51:36,840 I was like, oh sweet, I tried to make him in, um, 1194 00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:40,500 28 mil scale and it just blew out like, like 1195 00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,940 everything's blue. He's got so big, well, as I 1196 00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:46,100 was going, I'm like, no, so now it has to be a 1197 00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:47,300 statue or something for the army. I'll 1198 00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:49,320 make him, make him a statue or something like 1199 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,820 that. So yeah, you can make a shot. 1200 00:51:51,060 --> 00:51:52,260 I think it's the diet. Yeah, 1201 00:51:52,380 --> 00:51:57,660 yeah. But yeah, it's like you say, 1202 00:51:57,740 --> 00:51:59,860 it's, it's the hobby is very multifaceted and people 1203 00:51:59,860 --> 00:52:01,620 have entered the hobby for different reasons. Could 1204 00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:03,500 be the law, could be the miniature painting, could be 1205 00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:06,960 the terrain making, gaming, list building, you know, 1206 00:52:07,660 --> 00:52:09,440 whatever, could be when, you know, there's so many 1207 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,660 different aspects to it. And 1208 00:52:10,660 --> 00:52:14,680 I think that's what keeps us in the game for so 1209 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,200 long as opposed to like board games where you sort 1210 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,260 of just pulling one board game out, next one out, 1211 00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:24,060 next one out, it's sort of like a rotation thing. Did 1212 00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:26,620 you ever have a time where you kind of like ducked in 1213 00:52:26,620 --> 00:52:30,160 and out or? Not really. I 1214 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,620 sort of always was, well, until a time when I sort 1215 00:52:35,620 --> 00:52:38,260 of got more into like PlayStation games and that 1216 00:52:38,260 --> 00:52:39,540 kind of thing, I suppose. Yeah, 1217 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,580 they, they get you, they, yeah, they kind of pull 1218 00:52:41,580 --> 00:52:45,020 you away for a while. I know, I played a lot of 1219 00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:47,320 video games and I still do, but I just, I get 1220 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,940 sucked in for a few weeks. It 1221 00:52:48,940 --> 00:52:50,900 was that, that and the wacky, wacky, mate, I think 1222 00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:53,820 that got me hooked on that for a while. Oh 1223 00:52:53,820 --> 00:52:55,740 yeah, I don't, I don't mind that. So 1224 00:52:55,747 --> 00:52:59,740 that's a bit of a deep, I know, because that's a bit 1225 00:52:59,740 --> 00:53:01,720 of a wacky to back into a bit of a deep motivator. 1226 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,320 It does, it does get you 1227 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,460 there. I know I'm like, oh, should 1228 00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:06,160 I paint? But then I actually painted 1229 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,380 some models where like, you know, tried to paint some 1230 00:53:08,380 --> 00:53:12,160 models like that. I'm like, nah, I spent way too 1231 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:17,220 long on the face. So yeah, it gets you. Yeah, 1232 00:53:17,380 --> 00:53:19,820 yeah, I got obsessed with playing, I think it was 1233 00:53:19,820 --> 00:53:25,760 FIFA World Cup 1996 or whatever it was, I came in 1234 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,680 1992 or whatever it was. And 1235 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,740 then for a question soccer, and I just got hooked on 1236 00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:32,620 those, I just played those religiously, like just 1237 00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:35,060 continuously, season after season. So 1238 00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:37,520 yeah, and then I got out of that, got, I still did 1239 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,840 a bit of dabbling and painting. We 1240 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,980 had a, like a hobby room set up. And 1241 00:53:40,988 --> 00:53:44,720 by that time that I was out of games workshop, I 1242 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,060 was pretty much out of it altogether. And 1243 00:53:47,060 --> 00:53:48,820 then I sort of had a bit of a lull and then until 1244 00:53:48,820 --> 00:53:51,920 we found Rackham, the French company that bought 1245 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,960 out these amazing miniatures and the painting style was 1246 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,740 so different. And I got well, right back 1247 00:53:59,740 --> 00:54:02,000 into it again. So yeah, a bit of a dip and 1248 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,240 then got straight back into it again. I've 1249 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,240 sort of never left it ever since, you know, that's 1250 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,740 awesome. Yeah, that's like, like, I feel 1251 00:54:08,740 --> 00:54:11,460 like I get like, I'm kind of like, even my Mrs. 1252 00:54:11,620 --> 00:54:13,060 She's like to me, you've been 1253 00:54:13,060 --> 00:54:14,320 like, you know, for a few years now, you've been 1254 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,900 really into this, like, you're gonna, like, is it 1255 00:54:16,900 --> 00:54:19,060 gonna, I'm like, I don't know, like, it's like every 1256 00:54:19,060 --> 00:54:21,160 day I'm kind of finding something, you know, you're 1257 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,760 finding something new to do, or you're finding, you 1258 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,580 know, a new project. That's how I'm like, I'm doing 1259 00:54:24,580 --> 00:54:26,460 more time now, now I'm obsessed with more time all 1260 00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:28,280 of a sudden, I'm like, trying to build some 1261 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,400 buildings and I bought like a, the old box set of it 1262 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,780 and I'm like, getting into the rack. So 1263 00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:34,560 I want to kind of set that up, put that on the 1264 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,720 kitchen table and buy some mates over and have some 1265 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:38,700 games. So now I'm kind of hooked on 1266 00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:39,900 that. It's real weird, isn't it? You 1267 00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:41,520 kind of always got something. Yeah. 1268 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,220 I mean, I'd go nuts without having a hobby. I 1269 00:54:46,220 --> 00:54:47,620 think maybe you're the same. I've 1270 00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:49,860 got to have my hands busy, you've got to do something. 1271 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,360 Otherwise, I would just go nuts. If 1272 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,920 I, if someone sat me in front of a TV all day, 1273 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,299 I'd go crazy, mate. I'd go see. I've 1274 00:54:57,299 --> 00:54:58,420 got to build something. There's 1275 00:54:58,420 --> 00:54:59,920 always going to be something that's, you know, 1276 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,660 there's always going to be a project that's, I've got 1277 00:55:01,660 --> 00:55:03,820 to finish and then move on to the next one. I'm 1278 00:55:03,820 --> 00:55:05,320 like that. I'm very much like that too. 1279 00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:06,640 So I can play, you know, you 1280 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,400 can play video games and play, I've been playing, 1281 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,000 but I played a little bit of all this gate recently, 1282 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,540 you know, it's kind of like a Dungeons and 1283 00:55:11,540 --> 00:55:13,800 Dragons. Yeah. It's like, so, you know, a 1284 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,640 bit of that, but then all of a sudden I'm like, I 1285 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,640 feel like I'm wasting time and I'm wasting, you know, 1286 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,340 energy and I need to direct it to towards 1287 00:55:21,340 --> 00:55:24,160 something that gives me a bit of joy and pride and 1288 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,340 stuff like that. So yeah, definitely. Yep. 1289 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,080 That's where the hobby, I think the hobby for me 1290 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,600 wins out every time because, you know, after 1291 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,180 all that time, you've got something to produce, you 1292 00:55:33,180 --> 00:55:36,720 produce something and it's a work in progress or you 1293 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:38,560 complete something, you think, wow, that was great 1294 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,140 because that was, that was a hundred hours well, well, 1295 00:55:41,140 --> 00:55:44,160 well worth spent. So yeah, video games just get 1296 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,400 sucked into some kind of mega chip and this is 1297 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,980 gone. It's in your memory. It's 1298 00:55:48,980 --> 00:55:50,700 not, not a physical thing. And 1299 00:55:50,707 --> 00:55:52,560 it is good. It is good playing with mates, 1300 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,080 you know, video games and games. That's 1301 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,800 like party, but yeah, I don't really mean it's, 1302 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,360 it's good to have even a good time just to do your 1303 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,920 own thing. So yeah. Yeah. 1304 00:56:02,420 --> 00:56:03,900 No, no, there's some, there's some really good 1305 00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:05,940 video games that I get really sucked in and 1306 00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:07,680 immersed into and I love them. I 1307 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,140 think they're just, you know, created by creative 1308 00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:13,540 geniuses out there. So I really like those, but, 1309 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,960 but anyhow, mate, look, I think behind you, I can 1310 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,920 see a White Dwarf magazine. Is 1311 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,840 that your first White Dwarf magazine? No, 1312 00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:22,480 that's, I hope that actually sends to me as 1313 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,260 well. Issue one by one. It's 1314 00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:28,900 got the squads on it. I actually got that into me 1315 00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:33,120 by really, really, really nice guy, gentlemen. He's, 1316 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,000 he was like, he's like, he was into the hobby and 1317 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,740 then he was like, oh, kind of in and out. And 1318 00:56:37,747 --> 00:56:39,500 he's like, he was into it back in the day and he's 1319 00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:43,760 like, he's, he, um, he sent me it and, um, it's 1320 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,920 got like, you know, the old games day and stuff in 1321 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,400 it. It's, it's kind of like, I 1322 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,040 really do, I commit as well. It's 1323 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,580 like, um, the art of war, you know, the war hammer 1324 00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:53,500 art and stuff like that as well. Even 1325 00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:56,240 your fifth edition, fifth edition box set on the 1326 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,220 wall there. Like that's kind of like the 1327 00:56:58,220 --> 00:57:00,380 time and I was looking into war hammer as well 1328 00:57:00,380 --> 00:57:03,160 and that kind of got me the artworks as well. So 1329 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,620 I really do love, um, I love the art of war hammer 1330 00:57:06,620 --> 00:57:08,120 and, and it's another thing, you know, coming 1331 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,860 back into the hobby in recent years and then 1332 00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:11,800 opening up a white, a recent white dwarf and I'm 1333 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,240 like, what is this trash? Like 1334 00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:16,400 this is, this is what I remember, you know, no 1335 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,000 offense to anyone for liking it. But 1336 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,820 it doesn't have the same and yeah, this didn't have 1337 00:57:20,820 --> 00:57:23,500 the same appeal to me. You know what I mean? Like 1338 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:26,560 back in the day, it had like all the art and, um, 1339 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,340 you know, like all the greatest artists and like, 1340 00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:32,480 you know, John Blanche, all that, you know, like that's 1341 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,340 what's kind of like, I guess the aesthetic of 1342 00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:36,900 that. So I do, I'm, I'm gonna, I 1343 00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:39,220 think I'm at risk right now. I'm 1344 00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:41,740 starting to collect white dwarf magazines all of a 1345 00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:43,820 sudden. I'm like, this like, I'm like, 1346 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,400 oh man, I'm on eBay looking and I'm like, yeah, 1347 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,680 one getting that copy and that and that. So, 1348 00:57:48,780 --> 00:57:51,480 um, um, running in the risk of getting another 1349 00:57:52,220 --> 00:57:55,600 expansion. But secret from the wife, mate, 1350 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,340 to keep it a secret, put in the back. Yeah. 1351 00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:00,960 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's that? Like 1352 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,040 nothing, nothing. Some guy in the street just did 1353 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,160 to me, you know, she probably think they're all 1354 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,920 bloody playboys or something like that. Yeah, 1355 00:58:10,940 --> 00:58:16,400 that's right. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No, 1356 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,880 but yeah, it's definitely the art like that art gets 1357 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:24,280 me to, you know, so, um, yeah, it's, it's, um, yeah, 1358 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,640 it's, yeah, all that type of stuff as well. So 1359 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,140 I like, I got about there and it's kind of like my 1360 00:58:29,140 --> 00:58:30,380 part. I enjoy hanging up there. 1361 00:58:30,660 --> 00:58:32,960 Yeah. So, oh mate. It's 1362 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,320 a classic view of art. I work there's Dave Gallagher, 1363 00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:36,660 mate. It's classic. Yeah, 1364 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,340 Dave Gallagher. Yeah. Yeah. It's, 1365 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,740 it's a bit. So yeah, it's, um, I like, 1366 00:58:40,740 --> 00:58:42,320 and that's the thing as well being illustrated, I 1367 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,960 guess that's kind of like where I'm at too. Like 1368 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,260 I love that. Like I love, I love like the 1369 00:58:47,260 --> 00:58:49,060 Warhammer aesthetic and like how silly it was. And 1370 00:58:49,060 --> 00:58:54,480 even like, um, you know, um, I guess all the codex 1371 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,440 cover arts and stuff like that are kind of like 1372 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,000 real. They get me, get me really 1373 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,420 involved as well. So I love all that sort of 1374 00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:02,360 that side of the art of Warhammer as well as kind 1375 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,200 of like another whole area in itself, which is just, 1376 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,200 you know, you could kind of dive into as well. So, 1377 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,360 and I see like, yeah, yesterday I saw, I don't 1378 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,680 know if it was real, but someone put a post on 1379 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,580 Instagram and it was the original, um, elder codex, 1380 00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:21,080 you know, I think it was like the second edition and 1381 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,660 it was like selling the original artwork for 1382 00:59:22,660 --> 00:59:25,160 something like $100 ,000 like the original. Oh 1383 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,180 yeah, I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. I 1384 00:59:27,187 --> 00:59:30,600 was like, yeah, man, it's, yeah, yeah, it's happening 1385 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,460 now. Isn't it? It's 1386 00:59:31,460 --> 00:59:32,780 all, it's all changing now. So 1387 00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:35,320 that's good. Good for them because they're 1388 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,500 able to retire or they haven't retired already. 1389 00:59:37,860 --> 00:59:38,940 They can cash it in now, mate. 1390 00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:40,080 So good on them. It's 1391 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,340 just goes to show value, you know, how much the 1392 00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:45,000 hobbies can be valued and how much it's appreciated 1393 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:51,700 as well. So yeah. I 1394 00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:54,580 think Andy Smith has been a big contributor to that. 1395 00:59:55,420 --> 00:59:57,460 He's the old work, old hammer 1396 00:59:57,460 --> 01:00:05,720 art page on Instagram and on YouTube. I 1397 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,820 interviewed him during COVID. He's 1398 01:00:07,820 --> 01:00:10,660 a really, really nice guy, but he does that out of 1399 01:00:10,660 --> 01:00:12,280 charity. Like he, he doesn't take any 1400 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,160 commissions. He just basically takes the 1401 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,660 art from the artist and he sells, he finds a buy and 1402 01:00:16,660 --> 01:00:20,120 he sells it, getting the best price for the artist. 1403 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,520 He does a great job with 1404 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,740 doing that. I need to get him back on 1405 01:00:22,740 --> 01:00:24,460 the show at some point because he's a really 1406 01:00:24,460 --> 01:00:28,400 interesting guy. That's amazing. It's 1407 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,080 amazing. It's amazing. He's 1408 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,780 selfful. Like I think he said on 1409 01:00:31,780 --> 01:00:35,000 Facebook how much he sold and it's like a staggering 1410 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,440 amount of money that he's made for other people, 1411 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,060 which is really generously done out of his own heart 1412 01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:43,920 because he loves all this stuff. He 1413 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,080 loves the old hammer art. Yeah. 1414 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,140 I see another channel, FilmDegminatious, and he's 1415 01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:51,820 got, because he's like John Blanche and he's got some, 1416 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,960 you know, it's not like, oh boy, those got, they'll 1417 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,640 definitely be worth something one day. Like 1418 01:00:56,647 --> 01:00:59,100 even like now they're worth something because it's 1419 01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:00,200 changing. You know what I mean? It's 1420 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,900 all like, I guess as time goes by and more people 1421 01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:06,160 kind of, it's really a weird day. It's 1422 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,920 like, it's kind of like exploded. Like 1423 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,740 it's exploded in a way, but then it's, I think a 1424 01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:13,940 lot of people kind of like myself have come back and 1425 01:01:13,940 --> 01:01:16,260 even on my channel, I look at people coming back to 1426 01:01:16,260 --> 01:01:17,500 the hobby. They're like, I get messages from 1427 01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:19,420 people all the time saying, I'm like, you know, I 1428 01:01:19,428 --> 01:01:21,740 left, I was a kid, I was into it. And 1429 01:01:21,740 --> 01:01:22,980 then now I'm getting back into it. And 1430 01:01:22,980 --> 01:01:25,120 when I came back, there was no, no one in the 1431 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,140 fantasy, but obviously the old world is out now. So, 1432 01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:30,060 and I feel like it's like, now people live back and 1433 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:31,820 they got money. And you know what I mean? 1434 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,120 Where I wear adults now, we're 1435 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,580 getting a bit older, we've got some money, we've got 1436 01:01:34,580 --> 01:01:36,360 jobs and they're like, oh, yeah, I might buy a bit 1437 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,000 of like, you know, a bit of John Blanche art. I 1438 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,820 don't know if I just splurge on that. So 1439 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,580 hanging up in the office. So 1440 01:01:41,580 --> 01:01:43,420 why not? Nice, mate. Yeah. 1441 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,120 I wish I could do the same. I 1442 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,420 just need to be not married. I 1443 01:01:46,420 --> 01:01:47,440 think that's what it is. Yeah. 1444 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:52,540 Oh yeah. Tell me the dream. I 1445 01:01:52,540 --> 01:01:53,420 love her. I love her. She'll 1446 01:01:53,420 --> 01:01:55,900 probably watch this. There's lucky battles out there 1447 01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:57,440 with all that money they can spend on all this 1448 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,020 stuff. But mate, like you mentioned 1449 01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:02,000 your YouTube channel, and I think people should know 1450 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,220 about it. If they don't know about it, 1451 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,040 it's unable to do miniatures. Please 1452 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,860 go and check it out. I'll leave a link in the show 1453 01:02:08,860 --> 01:02:11,740 notes here for the podcast in the description. So 1454 01:02:11,740 --> 01:02:13,700 just go down there, scroll down there, click on that, 1455 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,540 and it'll take you to YouTube channel and I'll 1456 01:02:17,540 --> 01:02:20,120 leave one in there for Instagram too. So 1457 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,940 people can check out the painted, the finished 1458 01:02:21,940 --> 01:02:24,020 painted products because they're wonderful to see 1459 01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:26,460 and people can go and check it out. But 1460 01:02:26,460 --> 01:02:28,180 look, mate, thank you so much for your time. I 1461 01:02:28,187 --> 01:02:30,100 know it's a day off today and I know you're doing 1462 01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:31,800 some hobbies. So I don't want to take that. 1463 01:02:31,940 --> 01:02:33,680 Yeah, no, no, it's it's good 1464 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,740 talking hobby, even on the day off, mate. So, 1465 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,700 you know, I love your work as well and love what you 1466 01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:41,760 do too. So yeah, thanks mate. Yeah, 1467 01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:43,580 no, likewise, I think you're doing a fantastic 1468 01:02:43,580 --> 01:02:48,000 job with what you're doing and long may continue. So 1469 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,620 I think you've got the support, you've got people 1470 01:02:49,620 --> 01:02:52,020 who really love what you're doing and that that will 1471 01:02:52,020 --> 01:02:55,240 just drive you forward to collect more miniatures and 1472 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,040 hopefully, you know, your revenue from YouTube will 1473 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,300 allow you to buy more stuff because the price is 1474 01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:03,920 going up. Yeah, you can get those views. 1475 01:03:04,260 --> 01:03:06,960 So yeah, exactly. So 1476 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:11,040 yeah, help detail with it with a like and a sub and 1477 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,180 to watch his videos because they're really, really cool 1478 01:03:14,180 --> 01:03:16,720 to watch and watch him paint those classic iconic 1479 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,380 miniatures from the 90s. Thanks 1480 01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:21,040 so much. But thank you so much again. 1481 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,700 And I'll get in touch with 1482 01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:25,620 you, mate, about your cast wars and let's see if we 1483 01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:26,920 can help you out with that. With 1484 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,300 you. Thanks so much for that. Yeah, 1485 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,120 no problem, mate. I'll go, will you take care and 1486 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,200 enjoy the rest of your hobby day? You 1487 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,280 too, man. Take it easy. Thanks, 1488 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,480 Josh. Okay, thanks, mate.