Welcome back everyone to another podcast today and
thank you very much for downloading and giving us
the time to share another great story from Deets from
the Anvil of Doom miniatures YouTube channel.
So as you can understand the
title of his channel, grab my interest straight away
because the Anvil of Doom is one of the iconic
models from fourth edition One the Fantasy battle and
proudly sits in my display case painted as well. So
I was very keen to see what Deets was doing on
his channel and he has some really wonderfully
presented I think painting videos and he does it in
a very unique style and I think it's been quite
successful for him. He's only been in doing this
for about a year, which is really surprising to me. So
I'm really happy for him that it's been so
successful that he's built quite a big following on
his channel and he has a lot of correspondence with
his fans and that kind of thing that sent him models
or other projects for him to work on and
collaborations. So well done to him. It's
really nice to see that that's someone who's
generally so nice and very genuine about the hobby is
doing so well in this very niche hobby of ours. So
that's the interview today. So
I hope you enjoy that. And as we're nearing a four
year anniversary for the Crannick Man podcast, which
is amazing, that's four years of interviews, which
is still mind boggling that people still want to come
on and talk with me and share their stories with
you, which is really lovely. I
hope to bring back some old voices like Justin,
Justin Wu, a good friend of mine here in Japan that
we did the very first episode together. I
think we did it. I think episode one was about
fifth edition, one of fantasy battle. And
I think it was at a time when I just first
introduced fifth edition to Justin, he'd never played
it before. So yeah, if you can hear back
all the way back then. So to a time I don't think
the podcast quality was that bad, because I think
we're recording it via, I think via zoom or something
back then. There was in 2020 on the fifth
of May. So we're getting very close to
that time again, where it's the anniversary. So
I hope to get Justin back on again for us to do a
fourth year anniversary special. And
also my very first interviewee, which was Dave
Lister, all the way from Hamilton in Canada, talking
about his Wood Elf Army. And
I hope to get Dave back on, because I know he's a
massive enthusiast of the 90s Games Workshop games.
He set up our discord and has
been actively, you know, moderating that and being
part of the community. And I really want to get him
back on to talk about 90s Games Workshop games. It's
kind of our passion, as you know, as part of the
Chronic Command. So it'd be nice to get him
back on to talk in reflection over the last
four years and what he's been up to, and talk about
the games that we love. So that'd be really, really
nice. A lot of things have been
happening in the background. Obviously,
the tears of Aisha campaign, it's been rebooted
and kicked off again on YouTube. And
I'm happy that a lot of people have liked it and
responded in a very positive way to the new
format we're doing on the videos, which is good
because it's a lot of time in making those videos. So
I hope that people are enjoying those, every one
of you. And to hear that you're
enjoying it is giving me more motivation to do some
more stuff. But obviously, time and work
balance is an issue. So obviously, I've got to take
those into consideration. And
when we can record and that kind of thing. So
we're going to continue the tears of Aisha campaign
with scenario two and three filmed on Monday, this
coming Monday. I think that's the sixth of
May. And then I'll edit those and
release those at some time during May. So
we can sort of correlate those battles altogether in
one sequence rather than sort of being spread out
over several months, I think we should just sort
of nail that on the head and get that underway. So
I'm really looking forward to that. And
then the conclusive battle at the end will be at
some point, I'd say in June, depending if I have
enough models, it's a 3000 point battle. I
don't know if I've got enough high heels, I need
to work out my list for that and see where we're
up to that. But in terms of hobby, I've
been enjoying some bit of painting on Sunday. And
I've started working on my evil son's road trader Kev
Adams character model, it's like a knob guy, which I'm
really enjoying painting that I've taken out my my
weapon and the Azeg the slaughterer, which is being
customized by Kev Adams himself, the Goblin Master,
and retouching that up because I'm playing a game
with Max in Chiba in Japan this coming Saturday. So
I'm mastering my Auckland goblins as voted by my
patrons on Patreon to the army that I'll bring to
him to play Warhammer Renaissance in a 1500 point
sort of a training training game. As
it's his first time to bring his model to the
table, he's taking a beastman army. And
I'll record that and I'll put a short video on
Patreon for that. So my patrons can enjoy the
battle unfold there. But yeah, lots of things, lots
of great models, commissions have come in from people,
which is fantastic. I wholeheartedly thank them
for that. That's immensely encouraging for
me. It keeps me, you know, it
keeps me in a job. It keeps me very busy. I've
got a beautiful Chaos Dwarf army here. I've
got a beautiful old like a fourth edition, fifth
edition Dwarf army sitting here. I've
got some wonderful models from Warhammer Quest module,
Catacombs of Terror, I think, all the undead
models was looking that today. So
I've got wonderful figurines sitting here to be painted.
I've got some stuff in the mail
today from Marcus from Dicehammer, my previous
guests on the podcast. We're
all the way back from Road Trader, you know, Kev
Adams, second edition figures and that kind of
thing. So I am really inundated with
beautiful stuff at the moment sitting my table
right now. I'm truly blessed. So
I think I owe you guys a studio update sometime,
hopefully towards the end of this week, if not early
May. Presenting a lot of those figures and
a lot of those armies and all the miniatures that I
have got here. So you get a sneak peek as
to what I'm working on and what's coming up in terms
of commissions and what you can look forward to seeing
in future battle reports, perhaps a lot of it's
fantasy focused. So they want a fantasy fans
out there will be very happy to hear that. But
just loads and loads and loads of ideas that I
really want to get out there, lots of projects and
I'm working on. It's just getting the time. So
thank you again to my patrons who support me each
month, who allow me to basically buying me the
time to do a lot of stuff in the background, making
the videos, doing audio stuff for them, producing
this podcast, giving me the time to do that. So
thank you so much for that, guys. I
really appreciate it. And thank you to the listeners
out there who continue to enjoy the interviews that
we bring each week, or hopefully each week. I'm
trying to keep it on a weekly, weekly basis to
keep you guys entertained. So
without further ado, here's Deets from Anvil of Doom
miniatures with history. And I hope you enjoy it. Okay,
guys, thank you. Looking at my history, for me,
obviously, I've come into the hobby in the last
couple of years, really. But
when I was younger, when I was, I suppose when I was
like, eight, nine, 10, and 11, that's when I was
like, really, that's when I was kind of like, was kind
of the visuals of it kind of got me hooked into it.
And I'm guessing that was
around like fifth edition, because like, I've told a
story a few times, when I made it the road, he had
a bunch of lizard men, like bunch of old fifth
edition of Monopos, met I've monopos lizard men.
And that's how it kind of got
me involved in it. And I was kind of like, Oh,
wow, this is amazing. And he and his mate had
empire. I don't remember car he had
car friends and stuff like that. And
that's where I kind of like, that's when I kind
of like, that's where I think it hooked me. And
I remember mum and dad would buy me what I know,
white cloth magazines and all those types of little
bits and pieces here and there. So,
and it was in the last few years, that's when I
kind of came back to the hobby. I
was like, okay, like, you know, after like around end
of COVID, I was like, I need something to do. And
then I kind of came back into it. And
obviously, when the fantasy didn't exist anymore. It
was like very, I walked into the hobby shop and it
was just sigma and I'm like, what's going on here?
Where's all the good stuff? You
know, where's all the where, you know, where's
where my house, you know, where's all that sort of
stuff. And I was a bit like lost.
And then the, the, the manager
of the store was trying to explain to me, you know,
what happened the end times, like stuff. And
I'm just sitting there, just gone like, what,
what's going on here? And then I was like reading
into it. And I'm like, holy shit. And
I actually did buy some like, like a bought some
major sigma stuff. And I was like, I just looked
at it and I was like, I just don't really have any,
you know, like, I didn't really hit me as much. And
then, and then so I just jumped on Facebook,
Marketplace and just started buying, you know, fourth
edition high elves and everything I actually wanted
to paint and stuff like that. And
then now I've got a massive pile behind me,
which the Mrs. isn't too happy about. Just
don't tell her how much you paid for it, mate.
That's the secret. Exactly.
Yeah. That's the secret. I
reckon it's a secret to be a good hobbyist is like,
you've got to kind of hide those, you know, things
that don't matter too much, you know, as long as you,
as long as you can pay the bills, you're good. I
can miss us with the shoes and makeup and, you know,
she gets, she gets a, she does gardening and best of
both worlds. Yeah, that's right. So
yeah. But yeah, mate, that's, that's
interesting. Because, you know, I'm interested
in, you know, like yourself, because, you know,
you produce really good videos, very colorful, nice
graphics. I thought you were a
designer. Is that right? You're
a designer by trade. Yeah. That part time. Yeah,
I've done a blog with the OBS, but yeah, I did.
Yeah, I was a designer and then
an art director for a little while. And
then I've gone on kind of freelance now art director,
I just do my own thing there. So,
and I do a little bit of manual labor. I
help out here and there. I did trade off the high
school and stuff like that. And
then, but then I went to university after that
because I was like, I need to be more creative and do
those things. I did illustration for a
while as well and all those things like that. So
yeah, with the channel, definitely you probably
shows you'd probably see all the color and stuff
like that. I'm wondering what the hell's
going on. So I'm just looking at your
room, mate. It's like, it's just like a
beautiful sort of purple hue, just, you know,
covering on your walls and stuff like that. Yeah,
I got the lights down there. I
did have more artworks, but I kind of like a bit
like, oh, you know, I've got like, I used to print
and I used to do, I used to do a lot of
illustration work and I had my own little website stuff
like that. And I kind of got to the
point where it kind of go a bit too much. Like,
I was working for a lot of like, I was doing a
bit of work for companies, illustrating companies and
stuff like that. And I kind of lost my passion
for it because it became what they want over, you
know, like kind of what I wanted to do. And
I've got to look at where I was like, I just, I
just couldn't even pick up the pen anymore. I'm
like, I'm just sick of this because it's something,
you know, something you love. I
guess that's what I love about this hobby. It's
like, there's nothing, you know, it's completely mine.
I can do whatever I want and
kind of, you know, paint however I want to paint. I
could paint the classic style, which I absolutely
love and adore from what I remember when I'm younger.
But yeah, that's what happened
with that illustration. But it's weird ever since I
got kind of back into doing YouTube and doing all
this stuff, it's like, I'm really enjoying drawing
again, but I enjoy drawing like stuff for the channel
and, and, you know, like, I love drawing rap boys
and stuff like that. If you skate, you know, and
just doing just do a little doodles and stuff
like that. So I'm slowly getting back
into it. But yeah, definitely, I'm, I
still do a design here and there and I'm just
freelance now. So live the good life. That's
it, mate. That's it. Yeah,
you and me too, mate. I'm doing, I'm doing freelance
and I love it. I hope it runs out. Sorry,
what's that? What type of freelance are you
doing? So I'm a full -time miniature
painter, commission mate miniature. Now
I do some teaching very rarely. It's
quite scarce at the moment. Sometimes
it pop up and I do some English teaching here. But
yeah, mainly my main, main income is through, you
know, commission painting. And
then I do, you know, obviously make my videos
and podcasts and that kind of thing. Yeah.
So I gotta say, I love your miniatures. So
I, I'm, I've seen the odd video of yours, the kind
of your army showcases and stuff like that. And
they're like, that's exactly, I think you're, I
think you paint like me where you want the best,
like each minute should be the best that I possibly
can. Well, that's the way I feel. I
like, I'm very slow with my army building and like,
I haven't even got a complete army yet because
I'm still painting massive amounts of things the best
of my ability. Cause I feel like each one of
these miniatures deserves, you know, deserves, deserves
an eyeball. That's at least what they get
from me. Well, you're very generous. I
don't paint eyeballs on my guys, apart from the
carrot. Hey, they still look, they all
still look great. So I think I saw you scaven
on me and that was like, you know, beautiful. So.
Yeah. No, thanks, mate. That's
actually, that's landed in, in America now with its
new owner. So James is very, very happy.
He showed me some pictures of
it now that he's unboxed it and everything. So
I'm really glad it made it, made it there with
him. And he's happy. He's
so excited about, you know, fielding his scaven up by
his first war hammer army. He's
never had an army before. So.
Oh yeah. He's lucky. He's
got one of the doors. Yeah.
It looks, it looks beautiful. They
even are screaming bells. I paint the screaming bells
of the channel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Like scaven have plenty of fun
to paint up. So I actually got to paint up
some more. I've got a couple sitting here
ready to go. So yeah. Now
I can tell you're an artist, mate, because you
said you came into the hobby a couple of years
ago, but boy, you're a bloody good painter, mate.
Geez, you're nothing else does
paint. I think I feel like, yeah,
it's kind of weird because the people go to me like,
you know, I feel like my first miniature is like,
was very much like everyone else's kind of first
miniature. But it's weird because like I
did like mainly digital illustration. I
don't really, you know, I do the odd canvas work
like back in the day, like, you know, when I was
in, well, back when I was at uni and stuff like
that. That's a few years ago now, I
did a bit of painting and stuff like that, but it
was mainly like pop art and stuff like that. But
I just feel like I'm very lucky because I really, I
try to take as much in as I can and I feel like
there's so many good tutorials out there that
it's kind of like, I just, when I'm looking at it,
and I kind of understand how the kind of the color
theory works, like that's one thing I'm like, I
guess I'm lucky with the background design, you kind
of understand the color theory works and what kind
of works well with each other and where to bring
kind of tones and highlights up to. And
for me, for the hobby, I guess that's where I'm kind
of at now. It's like, I'm more of a
painter, I'd say, like I love painting and I really,
I think like, you know, I see some of these classical
models, especially like chaos force stuff, like I
really love for those guys now, because I just, the
sculpts and everything about them just really sings to
me. And I came into thinking I'd
be painting a full high off for me. And
now I've painted, I've kind of like tried to paint
every single thing I can. And
now I'm like in love with chaos, chaos, I don't know
why they just they really, I feel like when I'm
painting, you know, maybe the colors of them and
stuff like that go really well together, the blacks
and the, you know, and the reds and whatever. But
anyway, back to my point, is like, I kind of, I am
lucky that I kind of understand color theory
there, but it has been trial and error. And
you do, I feel like they're having a YouTube
channel as well. It really motivates me to
paint. And I want to kind of showcase
these miniatures in the best possible way they, you
know, the best possible way they can be seen. So,
but yeah, it is, you know, like you understand, it
does, after a while it does become tedious and
you're painting so much. And
I think I'm good. I think I'm developing a
hunch now. So that's good, mate. Your
miniatures, are they in display in your room? Are
they in a cabinet? Yeah, I've got a couple here. Of
course, of course people have seen these on your
channel at Ambulance. Yeah, yeah. I've
only got a couple here. I've
got like a Skarsnik. Yeah, Skarsnik. Got
a couple there. I've got my flame kind of,
which I painted. Oh, I love that. Yeah.
That's my favorite model, mate. You
did a beautiful job on that. It's
beautiful. Yeah, that's a great model. Then
I got obviously some Kales, all this and some, sorry
about the lighting and the lighting. That's
cool. I want people to go to your
YouTube channel and check it out or the Instagram to
check out the photos of your work because I'm
pretty sure most people would know about Ambulance
of Doom miniatures, but then it sort of just
popped up in my feed one day and of course the name
struck me straight away like Ambulance of Doom. I'm
a massive door fan. Yeah. I was like, oh cool. I'll
check that out. Yeah. And then, you know, no,
sorry. I was just going to say, I
was very curious to what it was. I
saw obviously imagery of, you know, like the old
Hero Hammer models and then I saw you painting them
and I thought, oh, that's great. It
just came by chance. I didn't know you from
anywhere else. It just came up in my feed
on YouTube one day. So I was lucky to discover
you. And then I saw how successful
your videos were and your channel was growing. And
I thought, well, that's really good to see that,
you know, such a niche thing has become really,
really popular. But I think it's to do with
not only your painting videos, but your style. You
know, you have that sort of graphical presence in
your, in the logos and the backgrounds and in the way
you present the videos and that kind of thing, which
is kind of your own thing, which is really nice. So
yeah, it's kind of like, I feel like there was a bit
of a gap, you know, when I came into this, like the
gap, like there's obviously, you know, a lot of one of
the fantasy old world type of channels out there. But
when I saw the channel about only about a year
ago, but it was like, I feel like there was nothing
that, you know, you get like a lot of other
channels that are kind of bigger and they put a lot
of production into their things. I
felt like one of the fantasy didn't have that.
It didn't have like a lot of
channels, but it didn't have like the kind of the
broader appeal, I guess, to, if that makes sense,
you know what I mean? Like the, like, yeah, I know
that's why I kind of made the channel, why I wanted
it to be like, I was sitting there going, like,
I want something a bit more poppy, or do you know
what I mean? Like a bit more like energy to
it. And yeah, so I was just like,
my Mrs actually made me do it. She's
like, just do it, you know, just get it to
camera. Do it, like, just go for it.
And I didn't have a camera. I
didn't really know how to use them. Like
I didn't know how to use Premiere Pro, but that's
basically about it. But you know, like, from there,
it's kind of like, got a bit the production called
on, he's got to do better since I first started and,
you know, sound and stuff like that. But
it's, yeah, like she told me, you know, get a camera
and just start filming. I was like, I'm not going to
do this, I'm not going to do this. And
then she was just like, just get the camera, film
something, and then see how you feel. And
then I just started going from there. And
then, yeah, like I put a video up and I just, yeah,
I started doing a few more little videos and people
have started like, you know, getting, like a bit
of positive positivity to it, you know, happy. And
the main thing about the channel is like being like,
I suppose for me is just like having a kind of like
a good vibe to it, like kind of like a nostalgic
vibe to it where, you know, you watch it and you
kind of, it's, there's no drama is nothing, it's just
literally painting old metal mitties to the best of the
ability. And, and I guess, because I
missed the out on that when I was a kid, mom and
dad didn't have as much money when I was a kid.
So I never kind of bought the
miniatures that I wanted or anything like that. So
I'm getting them all now, you know, like 30 over 30,
and I'm buying them all now. So,
you know, and it's kind of giving people like, so when
people look at it, they are like, I remember that.
And they remember that
miniature, you know, like, I remember that. And
it's like a page of the flame cannon and people
just like, this is my favorite miniature. This
is like, you know, this is the greatest and, and
someone actually get a really nice person gifted
that to me because they wanted to see it on the
channel. So it's just, yeah, just, and
I, and I couldn't find like, for me, it's getting,
I suppose, you know, this is as well as getting
harder and harder. The prices, they're going up
and up and up. So it's, it's nice that people
are doing that and they want to see their models
like, you know, painted and stuff like that. So,
yeah, it's, that's what the kind of channel I guess is
about. It's about good times, take it
easy, you know, take a lot of just watching, watching
good, the classic minis get painted. So
yeah. So yeah, I think, it's been
lots of fun. So yeah. No,
I think, I think it's definitely a niche. I
think you really, like I said, you present it really
well. I think people really, you
know, have enjoyed the stuff, the quality of your
work and your production value has really gone up.
Like I can't really compare it
to the earlier stuff. I just want to know from
your recent stuff. Don't watch the early stuff.
Don't worry about that. I
want to watch it. Did you just say you started
12 months ago? So I started, I started
painting a bit over 12 months ago now. The
channel, the channel will start at 12 months? The
channel is about to hit 12 months. Really?
The channel is about, yeah, the channel is about to
hit 12 months. So what is it? What's
the date? Yeah, I'm going on about 12
months now. Amazing. That's great. You're
kicking ass then because you got like 7 .6 ,000 subs
and you're averaging about 3000, 4000 views of video.
That's great, mate. Yeah,
just, it's, I don't know what it is. I
don't know. I don't know what the secret
is. People keep saying to me like,
I've got another mate, he's got a YouTube video. He's
like, hey, I'm like, I don't know. And
I just, I think like, I think people react like
they just like the, maybe I don't know, maybe it's
the thumbnails. I don't, I don't really know.
Half the time I sit there and
I'm like, why they, why, why? And
it's like, it's really, I did like an Avalanze,
paint, Avalanze, Avalanze, small Avalanze, I got like
a Empire kit. Yeah. And it took me like three
weeks. We had like a, because I'm
from the North Queensland, Australia, and it's like,
you know, cyclone, we had cyclones and flooding. And
it's kind of hard, you know, this as well, like
YouTube algorithm is a bit of a beast. I'm
sitting there and I'm like, I got, and it took me
three weeks to paint this. And
I was like, I had kind of that anxiety. I'm
like, I was trying, I tried to produce a video a
week. That's like my go, I've had a
few weeks now, but you try, you know, you just
want to keep people kind of interested and, yeah, I
know what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. And
I just remember trying to paint these guys and I had
like 10 of these Avalanze art, like trying to paint
them as best as I can. And
there's a cyclone blowing outside, power out. And
I'm just sitting there, the channel's gone. Like
it's over. Like it's completely over. Like
it's done. The end times. Yeah.
And then I put the video out and it did really
well. I think it's probably highest
performing video. So yeah, great. Yeah.
It's really good. And then I think people really
love, I don't know, I feel like a lot of people love
empire. Like a lot of people out there
really, they love their empire. I
get lots of messages. Like I go through Instagram,
lots of messages when you're painting empire
again. When are you doing this? When
are you doing that? And it's mainly all empire sims
cyclones. So I love their empire. But
I love it as well. I love it. That's
the thing as well. Like I guess is like probably
like yourself. But I love like every single
army. There's something about every single
army that kind of appeals to me. And
I want to paint them all. Like
it's still to have my favorites. But
yeah, it's kind of like that. Well,
everything except Lizardman and Dark Ills for me. Oh,
really? Yeah. I literally there are
reasons to it. There are reasons. I
don't know. Just it's a bit of it. It's
a bit of an ongoing joke. Yeah,
like, well, for people who don't know, I'm sure a lot
of people who know who follow me on the Chronic
Command, but I actually paint, I actually painted
the original Lizardman in the studio in England in
1996 for the fifth edition boxers. And
I bloody hated them. I love fourth edition. That's
impressive. That's impressive. That's
impressive. And I thought, what are these
hideous looking shitheads of things? Like
they were just effing terrible. You
know, I was so disheartened because I'm like, you know,
I'm big into fourth edition. Fourth
edition was like the best, greatest thing ever for
Warhammer. And then suddenly, I got this
horrible load of, you know, Lizardman and I think it
was this Lizardman, no skinks. And
the other guys got the Bretonian stuff, which are
beautiful. The Bretonians are wonderful,
the cavalry, the arches, the beautiful metal
character models and all that kind of stuff. They
got all that. I got lumped with all this
horrible Lizardman guys. Isn't
that funny that I, they're the first miniatures I ever
laid in my life. And I, and that's what kind of
got me into the hobby. Like
that's what like that's my double date. I
remember like 10 skinks in a box and I'm like, what
is this? And my kid up the streets
like, oh, Lizardman, that's amazing. You
know, like they gave me hooked and you hate them.
That was kind of the end. That
was the kind of the end for me, you know, like, a
better course. You know, I went on to play
fifth edition with my night goblin army. And
I think one, one of the guys or one of his wife,
I think his wife had Lizardman. She
played Lizardman. Yeah, Dark Elves. I've
never really enjoyed, apart from the third edition,
Allie Morrison ones he did like for third edition, why
am I though beautiful, but the fourth one, four
edition ones I just cannot stand. Yeah,
I just, I, I, I did you, you painted some. Yeah,
I just, I, the next video out this week, which I'm
doing, I'm doing a bit of a collab with another
painter. He won, he came, yeah, he's,
he's named, on the line, is called Drinking Gang and
he competed in Oldham Demon last year. You
might have seen that had like an elder, far seer,
beautifully painted. He came, and he came second
in the Darren Latham 90s space marine painting
challenge. So I got him a little into,
we kind of did a mini swap. So
he loves his Dark Elves. So
the first Dark Elves I ever painted and it's a
sixth edition dreadboard and he gave me dread because
I, I, like, I never painted Dark Elves before.
And there's something about the
sculpts, they're like real sharp from, I think it's
around the sixth edition, I couldn't be wrong, but they
got like really real sharp features and they're like
the hairs like real, it was, it was a bit of a
nightmare and I was a bit like, I was a bit, you
know, like hazard. I'm like, oh, should I paint
this one for him? Because we had to pick a miniature
and kind of paint it and yeah, and purple as well.
Like I've never really painted
that much purple before and I was a bit of tearing my
hair out. It was a bit of a nightmare,
but it got there in the end. I'm
pretty proud of it, but yeah. Oh,
good, mate. Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah,
that's good. I'm glad you made him some
collaborations out there with him. He's
a really good painter who did that. I
follow the Olden Demon stuff with great curiosity
and admiration because actually the guy who won
it lives in Japan here. I've
been meaning to catch up with him to just see, I
just want to see that model. Like
I'll be just amazing to look at that, that wall
dance he done. It's just incredible.
Breathtasing. I did a wall dancer as
well last year. I picked the right miniature,
but I didn't win. I was like, damn. Oh,
mate, it's a tough, it's a very, very tough bunch of
painters you're up against. So
I'm, I hope to do it this year. I
try to do Nagash last year and just couldn't make it
in time. So I hope to do, hope to
finish it off this year and submit it this year.
Oh, awesome, man. I'm
looking forward to that. I'm
looking forward. I really, I really think you
should end like every awesome, so definitely. It's
a real, it's really fun. It's
a real fun competition. I feel like just the vibe
for the month is like, you know, it's all all
happened. You just, it kind of, on the
social media, you kind of like clogs up your feed.
You just see so much of it.
And it really, for me anyway,
it really gets me going for that, you know, for
that time of year. So I'm doing two entries this
year because this year I'm pretty sure they're doing,
you can have a sci -fi and a fantasy model. So
I'm going for two. I'm going for two. And
I'll show you the fantasy. This
one request. Yes. Yeah, the dwarf troll. In
shrink, there you go. Bloody
hell. How much? Trade
for that. Mate, I forgot it for a birthday
present from mum last year. Bless
her. So yeah, so I got that. So
that's, that's going to be for this year for the
fantasy and I'm painting a space for the 40k and I'm
going to do some banners, paint some banners, more
and yeah, do that. So sitting here in my desk
staring at me, but I feel like I've, I've been up
more than I can chew lately because I'm trying
to do four things at once right now. And
I usually, I try to do everything one, like one
video at a time, but I've got like, I've got a
Mordheim, a Mordheim thing I'm building right, Borg
that I'm building right now next to me and I've got
this guy here that and yeah, just everything going
on every way. Right. That's good, mate. That's
excellent. You're keeping yourself busy and
that's great. It's, it's, uh, yeah, it's really
good to see you're so productive and you're trying
to make one video a week, which is a lot of work
considering how much it goes, that goes into the
time goes into making something like that apart
from doing your day job. So
I'm glad that the, yeah, the viewership is really
high and you get a lot of responses that makes it
worth, well, you know, worth for you as well,
that you know, you're getting, you know, good
response and people enjoying your content. So
that's the main thing. Uh, and you get a shot, you
know, thanks to you, thanks to your wife, you gave it
a shot and here you are, mate, you know, so. Yeah,
it's, it's, yeah, it's very, it's, I think that's
like, especially for me as well. It's
like, I'm not, I know I'm not, I know I'm kind of
like, new to the hobby in terms of, in terms of like
practicing painting and stuff like that. And,
and, but I still, for me, it's like, when I was
young about, I still have those, you know, those
memories of like, oh, like, you know, golden demon back
in the day and, and, and especially like, there's a
few pieces that kind of like sing out to me, I
still remember, I still like love and, you know,
it's, it's, it's weird. It's
a weird thing is when you're, when you're nine,
10, 11, you really want to be involved in something,
but you don't have the money, you know, it's, it's
a bit of an expensive kind of hobby and, and stuff
like that. And now I get to the second
chance to kind of do it again. And
I kind of, and I get to do it really, like, I get
to do, I feel like I get to do it well and do it
the way I want to do it. So
I'm very, very lucky to like that. And
I, and I'm happy because I'm learning so much new
things from all these amazing painters and, you
know, so, yeah, I got to pick your brain one day
because I know that you entered in a golden demon,
didn't you? Did you win? Yeah,
I entered the first golden demon, won the command
group with my nightgown command group. Yeah,
yeah. The trophies are behind me.
It's interesting because someone,
like when Wellington, my mate Wellington, can go, oh
man, you got golden demon trophies. Yeah,
yeah. Like they don't really mean so
much to me. It's, it's a funny thing. Like
I've thrown trophies away. Like
not golden demon ones, but I've thrown other ones. I
just have a whole heap of them. I
just chucked them out. I thought, what the hell am
I going to do with them? I've,
I'm using one as a cheese platter. Oh
my God, I believe. That was for the corvus. That
was for the corvus bellae painting competition that my
friend here in Japan took my miniatures over there,
entered them in the painting competition because
I couldn't go to Spain to do it. I
won it and they gave that what they did, they gave
you like a, a wooden plaque that was basically
round and they sort of just engraved, you know,
ITS, you know, miniature painting winner and they
gave me some brushes, which is very nice of them. I
don't think the competition was all that great, but I
was really happy to get it. But
I thought, what am I going to do with this thing? So
I made it into a cheese platter. So
I cut my cheese and crackers and everything on
it. At least you get a use out
of it. Yeah. Yeah. I
mean, these things behind me, I mean, I can, I can
appreciate them now more, but at the time was like,
what I'm going to do with these things? It
is a pain in the ass. It is getting in the way, you
know what I mean? So I much rather win the
sword and the sword is kind of like the Holy
Grail, which of course, of course now I'll never
attain because golden demon now is not what it was in
the 90s. It is something way beyond
that. It's become kind of like a, you
know, you have to be like a Michelangelo to paint. So
incredible, you know. I even like, you know, you
kind of, you always compare yourself to other, that's a
natural thing. And like, I look at photos of
my miniatures, I'm just sitting there with my
miniatures and I'm like, I don't know where near, and
I don't know about you doing for a short amount
of time, but it's like, I suppose to me, it's kind
of like becoming, you never stood out of this way, but
it's always become a goal to get better and better
and try, you know, and then, and then maybe one
day, like kind of like a bucket listing, you know,
just to go over to a golden demon or something
like that and have some fun and just compete just
for the sake of it. But I'm looking at it and I'm
like, man, I got no chance. So,
maybe I should be more, I should be more than born
earlier, maybe in the 90s, it would have been a way
better time for me. So. Well, in Australia, it
wasn't, I think the competition was not as
fierce, but in the UK, France, Germany, you know,
all those Spain, you know, they had really, really top
painters there and it was just so hard to, well, I
never, I never entered overseas, but in Australia,
at least you had some kind of chance, you know, there
was, because even the store level, like they would
just, you know, people would bring in the entries
and if I was the only, I think for Lord of the
Rings, I got two there for Lord of the Rings, because
no one else entered. There you go. It
was like automatically qualified. I
think I went down to Sydney and there was like
very little entries for Lord of the Rings, so I
won gold in two of those entries for two of those
years. And I think one was for like
an open competition, I painted like an inquisitor,
old hammer inquisitor for him on a diorama base and
that kind of thing. That was a cool category,
because that was like basically anything, you
could enter anything you wanted. And
I think it was like old miniatures only. Yeah.
That was a really interesting category. But
yeah, I've had sort of ups and downs at Golding,
because during that time, I was really into doing non
-metallic medals and they, the judge at the time,
just didn't like non -metallic medals. He
only liked metallic, so my entries sort of got pushed
down, down below and I sort of gave up. And
now it's all the rage. Yeah,
it's all the rage now. Yeah,
I feel like I do true metallic medals and I'm
like, I feel like I'm like, oh, shit, like, and
they're hard to photograph true metallic medals because
it just looks like a bit of a ball in some light.
I'm like, oh, this looks great
while I'm painting it. And then I'm sitting there. Oh,
yeah, it's completely changed. It's
completely totally totally changed. But
even I attempted a non -metallic medal paint, I'm
like, oh, I'll try and master true metallic medals
and then I'll move on. So yeah, I mean, it's good
for me because I haven't really done true metallics
for such a long time, but I've enjoyed doing it
because all my commissions are true metallic because
it's all done in the 90s style, you know. So
it's been nice coming back to it because what I do
now is just basically do the same as what I do
with non -metallic medals. I blend colors in, I put
shading in and highlights and all that kind of
stuff. So it's kind of very similar,
but obviously have that metallic, you know. Yeah,
I think that's a hard, that's a really hard thing
to learn for me, some kind of relatively new to it.
It was kind of understanding
that. Like for me, you know, you see
tutorials or whatever and they're like, I'll just
throw in some, you know, like null norm or whatever.
Yeah, it's slapping on. And
then I was like, why isn't it looking like, you know,
and then it took me a while to realize that is
the metallic medal is just a paint, like any other
bit of paint and it's, you know, you know, kind of
glazing it and all that type of stuff. Like
just use it as another, like any other type of
paint that you're going to do and edge highlighting
and stuff like that. And that's how it never, never
really occurred to me until probably like a few months
ago. And I was like, oh, that's how
you do it. Like, you know, it's real weird,
really different. So maybe I'm a bit slow in
the true metallic medal department. So
no, it's really hard. It's another challenge for me
too. It's been really challenging
because I can see people who do it really well,
just beautifully, you know, with the true metallics. I
can just get techniques that I just don't have
yet. So it's like another learning
curve. So I'm enjoying the challenge.
And we're going to talk more
about your painting and more about your channel.
I'm going to ask you a
question about Lisbon when we come back. So
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now I'm going to ask you about a question about
Lisbon when you first cast your eyes on the Lisbon
with your friend's house you talked about when you
were up the street, he had his fifth edition box set.
What was your first impression
with them? Were they the good guys or the
bad guys? For me, they were the good
guys. Really? In my mind, they were the
good guys. Yeah, it was a real weird day.
He had a box of skinks and
then it was like a few weeks later, he got the
source for those like the shields, the copperish
looking shields, she painted up. For
me, they were like the good guys. I
remember looking at them in the box, I don't know,
I've got an obsession with the boxes now. Kind
of like you got yours on the wall there. I
love that. I suppose that the designer
in me loved that as well. I
don't know, there was something about it that
really just hit me and it became an obsession for a
few years. But yeah, I love, I really did
love the Lizbon and stuff like that. I
think he maybe got a slam age a bit later and I was
like, wow, this is crazy. I
suppose I could say before that's what kind of kick
started it. And then he showed me white
dwarf magazines and stuff like that. I
remember going to magazines, shops with data, whatever,
he'd be reading car muscle magazines, street machines,
stuff like that. And he'd be there and reading
white dwarf magazines next to him. So
it was kind of like this real, you know, it was a
different time as well. It was very, the 90s were,
and it's like, you know, you didn't have the
internet, like the internet was in this early stage,
so it was really like getting that information.
And I suppose it's what made
me like, I kind of like loved mortarheim as well.
Like I really do like just
reading white dwarf at a town cryer in there and
stuff like that. And it kind of built out what
mortarheim is mean. And now I'm starting to get
into hobby and getting more into mortarheim now, as I
remember, all the town cryers and stuff like that.
So yeah, it's weird how it
just jumped from one to the next. A
little box of wisdom and started there. And
then it kind of jumped and, you know, it
progressed for me. If that makes any sense. So
yeah, yeah, sure, for sure, mate. We
know you do a lot of painting videos and you
obviously that's your, your main passion is to paint
and collect models and that kind of thing, but do you
actually do any gaming? So when I played a couple
games when I was younger, and I just got to be
moved, we obviously say his mate had empire models and
I just got to move around a unit here and there. But
I haven't really played too much. And
that's my next guy. I played a game with the
Warmaster last year. And I went down to Pax down
in Melbourne, kind of like a gaming convention and
stuff like that and hung out and took a look at a
few different tabletop games there. They
had a real big tabletop game section, which was
awesome. The Dungeons and Dragons and
stuff like that. And then I played a game with
Warmaster and I got absolutely flogged. Like
I got out and the guy who played me, he had Skaven
and I was Orcs and Goblins and he just like, he was
a seasoned Warhammer fantasy player. And
he just went so hard on me. I
was just like, I was, I didn't even, I feel like I
didn't even enjoy it that much. I
was just like, oh, like what? And
I just every role I had was just nothing like, not
void void void. I'm like, what's going on? What
am I doing wrong? So yeah. So
it's, and I put a thing is I do love watching a
good battle report. I watched your, I watched
your Hyalp one at Hyalp and Darko one the other
week and it was, it was great, you know. So
I'm keen to get involved in that side of the hobby.
I love lore, like I love the
lore sort of things as well. I
love my friends and stuff like that. I've
been really getting kind of getting involved in that.
And so yeah, for me, and
that's what I like about the hobby as well, I guess
there's like so much to it. It's
like, sorry. Like, I suppose the end, the end
game for me is playing, you know, playing some more
games, stuff like that. I do live in a bit of a
rural area and there's a lot of 40k around me. I
went to my local hobby shop, I got to drive into
town for that. And I'm like, is there any,
I'm playing old world or anything like that right
now? And then he's like, oh, not
really. And I'm like, oh, shit. He's
like, you know, you're a kill team. And
I'm like, now I'm good. So,
so yeah, that's kind of the end game. I
still haven't finished painting my army, but I've
got so many me, I could probably paint like I've
got that many miniatures I could probably do. I
got a scaven army, I could probably paint right now,
but that many miniatures of scaven miniatures and piles
and stuff like that. So I'm slowly getting there.
But yeah, the gaming side of
the table, I suppose to me as well, the
competitiveness, I get too competitive and I get real
like, so I've got to kind of calm it down. So
I got, by the time I do play a proper game, I'm
going to be like ready to go. So
well, firstly, I'm, I'm, it's sad to hear about
your first experience playing Warmaster. Yeah.
Was it, was there any laughter from the scaven
player or was he just like, no, he would go, he
was going hard. He was like, yeah, he was
like, it was real funny because he's just the, I
had one of the guys who was kind of like, you
know, I had this, the Warmaster kind of set up
and he was like, just going back and forth. He's
just like looking at it and nodding his head like,
or he just, you know, it's funny. I
look back, I like, I look back at my life, but I'm
like, man, I got told by, um, Wizards and Whiskey,
he's on Instagram as well. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, he's become a big fan of chat with him
and he told me, he's like, man, it's typical scaven
players like, typical scaven players. So
okay, whereas my good friend Kent Fury in
Australia would say, you should have said to this
guy, mate, don't be a dick. You
should have said that. This is my first game. Come
on, have a bit of a laugh. Let's
eat some, let's eat some cheese rings and drink some
cola and just have a good time. He
was having fun though. He was having fun though.
Running off the table. Yeah,
but it's sad because like, I think the emphasis for
anybody who's coming to the table for the first time
is to not do that, not table somewhere, but to
encourage them and say, hey, you know, that's
great. You want to try it. Look,
you know, let's go through some basic mechanics or let
me show you what your army can do or, you know, have
a bit of a jovial kind of presence about it. It's
almost like, you know, being in the 90s when we
worked at games workshop, that feeling when someone
walked in for the first time, they saw this nice,
nicely decorated table with miniatures and terrain and
we would immerse them in the game slowly. Yeah.
But with, you know, making sounds, okay, the archers
will, you know, release that, oh, you know, the
arrows and the there, fly down, oh, they kill the
logs, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah.
And I think some people are very good at doing
that and some people are horrible at doing that. I
think I got unlucky. Yeah, I think so. I
think so. It's okay. Like
for me, and I suppose that's where like, even my
channel and stuff like that, like I'm trying to,
like, my hobby, my hobby, like, I love the hobby so
much and it's kind of like, I'm still new, like,
I still feel like I'm new to it, but I've kind of
come into a setting which is like the seasons, you
know, very seasoned hobbyists, but I've kind of
stepped into a realm of people who are kind of,
you know, they've been here for years, like, you know,
20 plus years, like, you know, the Gropnas, man.
Yeah. Yeah. So
it's always going to be harder for someone like me
to kind of step in and be like, hey, you know, like,
but that's what I love about it as well. Cause
like everyone I've talked to is like so inviting and
like, you know, they want like, it's kind of when
it's a passion, you know, you both love something and
it doesn't matter. So it's like, it's good like
that in a way as well. So yeah. Oh,
when you come to Japan next with your wife, I'll
give you the best game of Warhammer Fantasy battle you
ever had, mate. Let's do it. Let's
do it. I'll do it. I'll
do it. I've got armies. Yeah.
I've got armies. Yeah. I've got your high heels
in me. High heels. Yeah.
I'm trying to build this chaos pool for me and man,
they're so hard to get your hands on, you know,
like just crazy. I've got a few, like a few
good years, but yeah, they're like, like it's, I
don't know. It's weird. Like
I'm slowly high. I find high was really
annoying to paint. I don't know if you like
just the white and you know, there's so much true
metallic metals, the whites and the blue. It's
very easy to make them not look good in a way. You
know, like it can be, yeah. So
that's why I think I'm kind of like teetered
towards chaos. So I'd rather bring some chaos
to war. So maybe I'll put that bag or
something. Yeah. Yeah. Actually,
right now, I've got to do, I've got to do a studio
update, but my good friend Gordon, Gordon, one of my
patrons, he sent me an entire chaos to war of
army to paint for him as a commission. So
that'll be the first time I've ever done it. I've
never, never painted a chaos to war for army
before or very little. I've painted a couple of test
models for myself that someone, my friend, Matias,
another patron sent me to paint. And
I painted those as just like kind of test models.
And yeah, really nice models.
I've got the, I've got the,
I've got the army book now, which is apparently
worth an absolute fortune on the, you can believe
the price. It's just crazy now, but mate,
there are, there are means and ways. So
I will, I will get in contact with you good sir.
And we will find that chaos to
war for army for you. No problem. Okay.
There's also really, you know, I mean, 3d, 3d
printing is obviously a beast that's in the room
or the elephant in the room, I should say, but
you know, Brawniac, a good mate of mine in Norway
that I have good conversations every time
we're now discord and that kind of thing about his
sculptor. He shows him designing
miniatures and, you know, he's, he's having great
time designing this beautiful looking models and
fate fate is L is another guy. He
does some really good stuff as well. So
I've seen some really good proxies that like this is
for them just kind of matches up, you know, with
like that, like fourth edition one really well.
I've seen like just a bunch of
people and I feel like that's exploding right now
too. You know, obviously 3d printing
is, yeah, so there's some really good stuff out there
too. I tried to sculpt something,
but man, I was useless. So yeah, it's one of those
things. Yeah, that'd be really hard to
do, mate, but that's good that you're trying to
sculpt. That's excellent. So
yeah, don't give up on it. Just
keep, keep, keep chipping away at it. And
that's another great skill to put, you know, into
your, you know, either disassembly, modifying,
converting process, you know, so that's definitely
a bit of a bit of a bit of a different beast
sculpting. So absolutely, I've tried my
hand at it. And yeah, it just didn't, well,
I just didn't give the time. I
think it's for any kind of skill like that, you really
need to be very enthusiastic or driven to
do it. And I just don't feel that I
was very driven or enthusiastic about doing it.
So yeah, I think it suits
certain people. I'm just more comfortable with
painting. Learning a new skill set is just
not my, I'm getting too old, mate. That's
why I think that's why. You're
young, you're fine. But I watched, I watched
Brawniak do his digital sculpting and he said, oh,
you should try, you know, it's really fun. And,
and looking at him doing it, yeah, it seems kind of
easy, sort of just pulling, you're pulling, basically
just pulling polygons around on a screen. But,
you know, it's not that simple. Obviously,
he's, you know, very talented, he can do it
very well. And if he's, if you see me
painting, well, you're self painting, well, that looks
easy, but when you actually do it, it's not as easy.
So it's like everything,
everything's a skill, like even like, I feel like,
you know, people assume they can do a lot of
things. It's, it's, it's much harder. And
everything, like you said, everything takes time and
skills, like the same. And, you know, you're never
going to jump into something. That's
what, like, I guess the whole thing is like, you're
never going to jump into something, just thinking
you're going to be able to do it the first time. And
it's like, I think it's our willingness to learn
and, and, and, and listen to other people and, you
know, and really just take your time and kind of sit
in it. So yeah, it is a bit of a
beast, that stuff. But even doing the digital, you
know, digital, like you were saying, digital
sculpting, I don't know if I've got too much, like, I
don't know, I don't know if I'd be, have the
patience for that as well. I'd
be a bit like, you know, so I tried with a, I
tried sculpting with like, just, um, what was it, you
know, I tried to do a little kale storf and, and
I was like, oh sweet, I tried to make him in, um,
28 mil scale and it just blew out like, like
everything's blue. He's got so big, well, as I
was going, I'm like, no, so now it has to be a
statue or something for the army. I'll
make him, make him a statue or something like
that. So yeah, you can make a shot.
I think it's the diet. Yeah,
yeah. But yeah, it's like you say,
it's, it's the hobby is very multifaceted and people
have entered the hobby for different reasons. Could
be the law, could be the miniature painting, could be
the terrain making, gaming, list building, you know,
whatever, could be when, you know, there's so many
different aspects to it. And
I think that's what keeps us in the game for so
long as opposed to like board games where you sort
of just pulling one board game out, next one out,
next one out, it's sort of like a rotation thing. Did
you ever have a time where you kind of like ducked in
and out or? Not really. I
sort of always was, well, until a time when I sort
of got more into like PlayStation games and that
kind of thing, I suppose. Yeah,
they, they get you, they, yeah, they kind of pull
you away for a while. I know, I played a lot of
video games and I still do, but I just, I get
sucked in for a few weeks. It
was that, that and the wacky, wacky, mate, I think
that got me hooked on that for a while. Oh
yeah, I don't, I don't mind that. So
that's a bit of a deep, I know, because that's a bit
of a wacky to back into a bit of a deep motivator.
It does, it does get you
there. I know I'm like, oh, should
I paint? But then I actually painted
some models where like, you know, tried to paint some
models like that. I'm like, nah, I spent way too
long on the face. So yeah, it gets you. Yeah,
yeah, I got obsessed with playing, I think it was
FIFA World Cup 1996 or whatever it was, I came in
1992 or whatever it was. And
then for a question soccer, and I just got hooked on
those, I just played those religiously, like just
continuously, season after season. So
yeah, and then I got out of that, got, I still did
a bit of dabbling and painting. We
had a, like a hobby room set up. And
by that time that I was out of games workshop, I
was pretty much out of it altogether. And
then I sort of had a bit of a lull and then until
we found Rackham, the French company that bought
out these amazing miniatures and the painting style was
so different. And I got well, right back
into it again. So yeah, a bit of a dip and
then got straight back into it again. I've
sort of never left it ever since, you know, that's
awesome. Yeah, that's like, like, I feel
like I get like, I'm kind of like, even my Mrs.
She's like to me, you've been
like, you know, for a few years now, you've been
really into this, like, you're gonna, like, is it
gonna, I'm like, I don't know, like, it's like every
day I'm kind of finding something, you know, you're
finding something new to do, or you're finding, you
know, a new project. That's how I'm like, I'm doing
more time now, now I'm obsessed with more time all
of a sudden, I'm like, trying to build some
buildings and I bought like a, the old box set of it
and I'm like, getting into the rack. So
I want to kind of set that up, put that on the
kitchen table and buy some mates over and have some
games. So now I'm kind of hooked on
that. It's real weird, isn't it? You
kind of always got something. Yeah.
I mean, I'd go nuts without having a hobby. I
think maybe you're the same. I've
got to have my hands busy, you've got to do something.
Otherwise, I would just go nuts. If
I, if someone sat me in front of a TV all day,
I'd go crazy, mate. I'd go see. I've
got to build something. There's
always going to be something that's, you know,
there's always going to be a project that's, I've got
to finish and then move on to the next one. I'm
like that. I'm very much like that too.
So I can play, you know, you
can play video games and play, I've been playing,
but I played a little bit of all this gate recently,
you know, it's kind of like a Dungeons and
Dragons. Yeah. It's like, so, you know, a
bit of that, but then all of a sudden I'm like, I
feel like I'm wasting time and I'm wasting, you know,
energy and I need to direct it to towards
something that gives me a bit of joy and pride and
stuff like that. So yeah, definitely. Yep.
That's where the hobby, I think the hobby for me
wins out every time because, you know, after
all that time, you've got something to produce, you
produce something and it's a work in progress or you
complete something, you think, wow, that was great
because that was, that was a hundred hours well, well,
well worth spent. So yeah, video games just get
sucked into some kind of mega chip and this is
gone. It's in your memory. It's
not, not a physical thing. And
it is good. It is good playing with mates,
you know, video games and games. That's
like party, but yeah, I don't really mean it's,
it's good to have even a good time just to do your
own thing. So yeah. Yeah.
No, no, there's some, there's some really good
video games that I get really sucked in and
immersed into and I love them. I
think they're just, you know, created by creative
geniuses out there. So I really like those, but,
but anyhow, mate, look, I think behind you, I can
see a White Dwarf magazine. Is
that your first White Dwarf magazine? No,
that's, I hope that actually sends to me as
well. Issue one by one. It's
got the squads on it. I actually got that into me
by really, really, really nice guy, gentlemen. He's,
he was like, he's like, he was into the hobby and
then he was like, oh, kind of in and out. And
he's like, he was into it back in the day and he's
like, he's, he, um, he sent me it and, um, it's
got like, you know, the old games day and stuff in
it. It's, it's kind of like, I
really do, I commit as well. It's
like, um, the art of war, you know, the war hammer
art and stuff like that as well. Even
your fifth edition, fifth edition box set on the
wall there. Like that's kind of like the
time and I was looking into war hammer as well
and that kind of got me the artworks as well. So
I really do love, um, I love the art of war hammer
and, and it's another thing, you know, coming
back into the hobby in recent years and then
opening up a white, a recent white dwarf and I'm
like, what is this trash? Like
this is, this is what I remember, you know, no
offense to anyone for liking it. But
it doesn't have the same and yeah, this didn't have
the same appeal to me. You know what I mean? Like
back in the day, it had like all the art and, um,
you know, like all the greatest artists and like,
you know, John Blanche, all that, you know, like that's
what's kind of like, I guess the aesthetic of
that. So I do, I'm, I'm gonna, I
think I'm at risk right now. I'm
starting to collect white dwarf magazines all of a
sudden. I'm like, this like, I'm like,
oh man, I'm on eBay looking and I'm like, yeah,
one getting that copy and that and that. So,
um, um, running in the risk of getting another
expansion. But secret from the wife, mate,
to keep it a secret, put in the back. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's that? Like
nothing, nothing. Some guy in the street just did
to me, you know, she probably think they're all
bloody playboys or something like that. Yeah,
that's right. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. No,
but yeah, it's definitely the art like that art gets
me to, you know, so, um, yeah, it's, it's, um, yeah,
it's, yeah, all that type of stuff as well. So
I like, I got about there and it's kind of like my
part. I enjoy hanging up there.
Yeah. So, oh mate. It's
a classic view of art. I work there's Dave Gallagher,
mate. It's classic. Yeah,
Dave Gallagher. Yeah. Yeah. It's,
it's a bit. So yeah, it's, um, I like,
and that's the thing as well being illustrated, I
guess that's kind of like where I'm at too. Like
I love that. Like I love, I love like the
Warhammer aesthetic and like how silly it was. And
even like, um, you know, um, I guess all the codex
cover arts and stuff like that are kind of like
real. They get me, get me really
involved as well. So I love all that sort of
that side of the art of Warhammer as well as kind
of like another whole area in itself, which is just,
you know, you could kind of dive into as well. So,
and I see like, yeah, yesterday I saw, I don't
know if it was real, but someone put a post on
Instagram and it was the original, um, elder codex,
you know, I think it was like the second edition and
it was like selling the original artwork for
something like $100 ,000 like the original. Oh
yeah, I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. I
was like, yeah, man, it's, yeah, yeah, it's happening
now. Isn't it? It's
all, it's all changing now. So
that's good. Good for them because they're
able to retire or they haven't retired already.
They can cash it in now, mate.
So good on them. It's
just goes to show value, you know, how much the
hobbies can be valued and how much it's appreciated
as well. So yeah. I
think Andy Smith has been a big contributor to that.
He's the old work, old hammer
art page on Instagram and on YouTube. I
interviewed him during COVID. He's
a really, really nice guy, but he does that out of
charity. Like he, he doesn't take any
commissions. He just basically takes the
art from the artist and he sells, he finds a buy and
he sells it, getting the best price for the artist.
He does a great job with
doing that. I need to get him back on
the show at some point because he's a really
interesting guy. That's amazing. It's
amazing. He's
selfful. Like I think he said on
Facebook how much he sold and it's like a staggering
amount of money that he's made for other people,
which is really generously done out of his own heart
because he loves all this stuff. He
loves the old hammer art. Yeah.
I see another channel, FilmDegminatious, and he's
got, because he's like John Blanche and he's got some,
you know, it's not like, oh boy, those got, they'll
definitely be worth something one day. Like
even like now they're worth something because it's
changing. You know what I mean? It's
all like, I guess as time goes by and more people
kind of, it's really a weird day. It's
like, it's kind of like exploded. Like
it's exploded in a way, but then it's, I think a
lot of people kind of like myself have come back and
even on my channel, I look at people coming back to
the hobby. They're like, I get messages from
people all the time saying, I'm like, you know, I
left, I was a kid, I was into it. And
then now I'm getting back into it. And
when I came back, there was no, no one in the
fantasy, but obviously the old world is out now. So,
and I feel like it's like, now people live back and
they got money. And you know what I mean?
Where I wear adults now, we're
getting a bit older, we've got some money, we've got
jobs and they're like, oh, yeah, I might buy a bit
of like, you know, a bit of John Blanche art. I
don't know if I just splurge on that. So
hanging up in the office. So
why not? Nice, mate. Yeah.
I wish I could do the same. I
just need to be not married. I
think that's what it is. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Tell me the dream. I
love her. I love her. She'll
probably watch this. There's lucky battles out there
with all that money they can spend on all this
stuff. But mate, like you mentioned
your YouTube channel, and I think people should know
about it. If they don't know about it,
it's unable to do miniatures. Please
go and check it out. I'll leave a link in the show
notes here for the podcast in the description. So
just go down there, scroll down there, click on that,
and it'll take you to YouTube channel and I'll
leave one in there for Instagram too. So
people can check out the painted, the finished
painted products because they're wonderful to see
and people can go and check it out. But
look, mate, thank you so much for your time. I
know it's a day off today and I know you're doing
some hobbies. So I don't want to take that.
Yeah, no, no, it's it's good
talking hobby, even on the day off, mate. So,
you know, I love your work as well and love what you
do too. So yeah, thanks mate. Yeah,
no, likewise, I think you're doing a fantastic
job with what you're doing and long may continue. So
I think you've got the support, you've got people
who really love what you're doing and that that will
just drive you forward to collect more miniatures and
hopefully, you know, your revenue from YouTube will
allow you to buy more stuff because the price is
going up. Yeah, you can get those views.
So yeah, exactly. So
yeah, help detail with it with a like and a sub and
to watch his videos because they're really, really cool
to watch and watch him paint those classic iconic
miniatures from the 90s. Thanks
so much. But thank you so much again.
And I'll get in touch with
you, mate, about your cast wars and let's see if we
can help you out with that. With
you. Thanks so much for that. Yeah,
no problem, mate. I'll go, will you take care and
enjoy the rest of your hobby day? You
too, man. Take it easy. Thanks,
Josh. Okay, thanks, mate.