1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,280 It all has to do with like how I actually started my channel or, 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:12,520 or why I started my channel. I guess which is funny because 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,040 like in the very beginning, it was literally I would, I didn't 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,480 even know I could film from my phone. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Well, I knew you could obviously take videos with your phone, but 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,560 like record it and upload it like as easy as it is. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,080 And I would literally just like tilt the camera on my laptop and 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,600 record and like talk to the fucking camera. 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,840 And I didn't even know you could like upload an HD and fucking it 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,000 was just it was so sad. I look at it now and it just 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,560 makes me laugh but. I I like those videos man. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,520 I really, because I always, when I ever find a creator, I always 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,840 go all the way back down to the very first videos they make 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,520 because I want to. I want to see how it evolved to 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,880 what it is now. And I, I kind of like those ones 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,240 where you're just sitting there painting and you're just talking 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,320 about life or what's been happening with the kids or 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Chelsea Football Club. Oh, fuck Bass, man. 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,240 Yeah, DB likes Chelsea. Awesome. 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Yeah, they were like, honestly, they're some of my funnest, like 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,360 the videos that I enjoy the most, but it's like, not very 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,680 many. I don't know. 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Now I'll if I were to post a video like that, I would get a 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,280 couple messages of people just being like, what the fuck is 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,800 this? And that part, that part kills 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,120 me. And I'm like, I should post it 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,040 just because of that. But then I'm like, I don't want 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,800 to be a Dick because my my YouTube persona is not to be a 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,640 Dick. Like, I don't, I don't really 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,640 want to like I don't, I don't, I try not to do negative videos, 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,440 you know what I mean? But there's like plenty of shit 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,000 I want to like just go off on sometimes. 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,640 But. Oh yeah, I can I can understand 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,680 that mate man that's fair enough. 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Now we I really appreciate and I know a lot of guys feel the same 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,920 way as me. I really appreciate like just 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,360 real, honest YouTube videos, YouTube creators, you know, you 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,520 are just you how you are, and I like that there's no you know 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,120 what I mean, because a lot of Youtubers out there, I don't 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,200 watch them because they've got it's it's it feels very fake or 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,840 it's it's it's too too are presented. 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,960 Yeah, those are the ones I don't, I don't fucking watch 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,520 those at all. Like people will be like, oh, do 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,200 you like know about this? That's in like the Warhammer 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,480 zeitgeist or whatever, you know? And I'm like, I have no idea 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,040 what the fuck you're talking about It. 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,600 It kind of pleases, you know, I don't know who these people are. 48 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:46,560 So it's. Yeah. 49 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,960 Yeah. It's. 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,120 No, that's cool, man. It's cool, yeah. 51 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,720 And just like this podcast, it's it's a very natural flowing 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200 conversation. There's not there's no preset 53 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,600 questions, there's no preset agenda for what we're talking 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,880 about. Whatever comes outcomes out, you 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,720 know what I mean? So it's all I like it. 56 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,040 I like it just like that how it all how it all started, you know 57 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,120 what I mean? Just bring people stories to to 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,840 the to the listeners. So I appreciate that, but thanks 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,200 again mate DB for coming on. I'll exchange a couple of emails 60 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,600 and I think it came about because sadly your your 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,520 beautiful dog passed away not so long. 62 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,960 Ago. Yeah, that was back in October. 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,800 That was rough for me, man. He was. 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,160 He was 15 and he was a he was a German shepherd Bassettown. 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,920 He was wild. So he was like he looked like a 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,680 police dog cut off at the knees and he was that, you know, big 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,280 fat barrel of a thing. But, and I've had other dogs 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,640 before, but like literally just having him for 15 years and I'm 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,840 almost, you know, I'm almost 50, so it's a third of my life for 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,160 whatever. And literally like I spent like 71 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,760 every day with him. My friends called him excuse 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,800 because like they'd be like, hey, you want to go somewhere? 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,320 And I'd be like, Nah, I got to go, got to go hang out with the 74 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,840 dog and like, you know, and he would just chill. 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,480 He wouldn't, he barely would go for walks and stuff. 76 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,320 He didn't care. So it was, yeah, that one was 77 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,160 that one. It was rough too. 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:24,640 And at the time he passed, it was my annual like get together 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,600 for my gaming group. So the graying legion every year 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,360 we we try and get together at least once a year and we'll pick 81 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,400 a theme. So this year it was second 82 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,600 edition 40K and it was like, we're there all week and it's 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,920 like a house. There's like, I think this year 84 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,680 there were ten of us super fun time. 85 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,280 But like day two of the week my wife called me and she was like, 86 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,120 Yo, you could, you got to come home. 87 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:53,440 And I kind of knew like before I left, I was, I told my buddy 88 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,160 that I drove up with, I was like, I just hope he makes it 89 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,520 till I get back, you know. But it was, so that was, that 90 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,480 was like an extra buzzkill. So when I saw your, your video, 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,400 I was like, man, that just, is that like totally helped me 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,840 'cause I was that like a really kind of like shitty, like beyond 93 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,760 down in the dumps kind of like feeling, you know, like my hobby 94 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,440 was, yeah, I was just like, fuck, man, I don't want to do 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,000 nothing. So, but so that was awesome. 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,160 I appreciate you for that, good Sir. 97 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,720 No, mate, that's, that's fine, mate. 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,120 I, I, I felt really sorry for that, for that to happen to you. 99 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:36,760 I've, you know, I've, I've also lost a dog when I was in my 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,160 teenage years. I'll never forget it. 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,840 It's a really heartbreaking moment when you lose that 102 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:44,000 beautiful, beautiful spirit animal in your in your home. 103 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,400 And he was. He was. 104 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,280 Definitely my spirit animal dude. 105 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:49,600 Yeah, man, yeah. I love dogs, man. 106 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,080 I love them. I love them, you know, I just 107 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,960 love animals generally. But yeah, having, and I haven't, 108 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,160 have never had a dog since. And my son now really wants a 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,160 dog. And my, I know my wife would 110 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,880 love a dog. And so eventually we're going 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,960 to, we're going to, you know, take the next step of getting a 112 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,640 dog eventually. Is this what kind of dog? 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,520 My my son loves the small little yappy dogs, which I don't 114 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,120 particularly like. No, 'cause I I had a shepherd 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,680 too, when I was young, A beautiful. 116 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,160 Yeah, big. You want a dog? 117 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:21,920 A German Shepherd, I want a big dog, mate, but not, you know, 118 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,760 not too big because, you know, they're bit sort of very hard to 119 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,880 manage, especially in Japan here, but sort of a sort of a 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,440 mid sized dog. I, yeah, I think that sort of 121 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,680 appeals to me. But yeah, I'm looking forward to 122 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,800 that time too, because I'm, I'm fortunate I can work from home. 123 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,600 So now it's doable. It's, it's, I don't want my dog 124 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,600 to be constrained to a leash outside. 125 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,120 I want him to have, have a lot of freedom and have a good life. 126 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,280 And also, yeah, we want to have one like I did as a kid, you 127 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:54,240 know, growing up, having a dog, it gives you, your kids some 128 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,640 responsibility of, you know, taking that for walks, feeding 129 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,600 them, looking after them, playing with them. 130 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Yeah. You're you're optimistic, my 131 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,560 man. I don't know my kids. 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,720 My my kids ain't help shit. So, well, that'll be the deal, 133 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,920 mate. That'll be the deal I make with 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,200 my boys, say well, yeah, OK, we'll get this dog. 135 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,480 But this is it, mate. This is, you know, we can't 136 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,440 bring him back. If you got to look after him, 137 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,520 you got to feed him and play with him and you know, it's, 138 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,000 it's it, you know, you have to do this. 139 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,640 It's like contractual thing, you know? 140 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,520 So yeah, no, that's good. But I, I did enjoy those videos, 141 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,680 man. There was some amazing armies on 142 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,680 that. Yeah, yeah, the boys. 143 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,920 The boys don't mess around, that's for sure. 144 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 That's for sure. Those are all guys I've known 145 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:49,040 now. Gosh, probably 20, almost 2520, 146 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,480 thirty years, close to about like right around. 147 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,360 I met most of those guys right after college. 148 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:05,320 I, I met a bunch of them, I think it at AGTI met one of them 149 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,080 and then we just instantly clicked and like hung out and 150 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,860 then I, you know, threw him. There were a bunch of Co 151 00:08:11,860 --> 00:08:13,880 workers. A lot of those dudes all used to 152 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,480 work at Games Workshop back in the day up in Baltimore. 153 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,800 A bunch of them were on the black Gabo web team and then 154 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,880 there were other dudes that were on the white dwarf team. 155 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,360 So they're all, they're all crazy, you know what I mean? 156 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,000 They're all die hard hobbyists guys. 157 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:37,960 So their talent is just amazing. They like I am without a doubt 158 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,120 the least hobby talented out of like that whole and when it 159 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,680 comes to painting and everything out of the whole crew. 160 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,440 Which for a while I was like not really cool with but then I was 161 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,600 like what the fuck why am I like why do I even care because I can 162 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,240 hold my own when I try. My problem is I'm usually all 163 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,200 over the place. Like I'll be painting like right 164 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,280 now when I look over, I got some battle tech Max, some Legion 165 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:13,080 imperialist stuff, some old school foundry Cowboys, like 166 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,760 just random, you know, it's it's like how it is here in the 167 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,640 dungeon. It's just whatever, whatever I'm 168 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,080 feeling, you know, so. Yeah, do what you feel, as you 169 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,480 say, but that's good. I like that. 170 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,600 I like that sort of shotgun mentality. 171 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,560 Like it's just like all these different games, all these 172 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:34,000 different miniatures, you always tend to find a box of old hammer 173 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,640 stuff somewhere. Oh, buddy, I got you're right. 174 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:43,400 Now it's like the last month and a half, it's been so cold here, 175 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,360 like unseasonably cold in most of America, I believe. 176 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,440 But at least in Washington, DC, it's been ridiculous. 177 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:56,680 And we got some crazy snowstorm with like ice mixed in and we're 178 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:59,680 like 3 inches of sleep. So like, you couldn't do shit 179 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:03,680 for like a week and a half. And my family was actually in 180 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,760 Florida and they got stuck there. 181 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,960 So DB had the house to himself. No kids for like a week and a 182 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,080 half. I dug in the crates. 183 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,880 There are many treasures that I have found. 184 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:18,400 I mean, there's stuff that you'll you'll appreciate. 185 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,400 And then there's there's a ton of non like games workshop stuff 186 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,000 too. But there's definitely some 187 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,720 stuff that's right up your alley. 188 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Dude that I'm. Cool. 189 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,840 Well, I look forward to those. If you ever do videos on those, 190 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,320 I'd love to see that because I really, yeah, they're, they're 191 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,000 some of my favorites, mate. The the the little showcases of 192 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,000 stuff you found in figure cases or in boxes. 193 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Oh yeah? Well, there's there's plenty of 194 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,520 those. I I think he even had some 4th 195 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,920 edition Britannians there. Third edition. 4th Edition. 196 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,760 Britannians. Oh yeah, I have. 197 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,400 See, that's another thing that I, that's I, I'm not good at is 198 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,600 I'll break out an old army case. Like for example, those 199 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,600 Britannians. I I showed some old metal 200 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Spearman, I think, and maybe some other stuff, But like I 201 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,760 have a whole, I have two whole Britannian armies from back in 202 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,560 the day and and I meant to probably show most of them off, 203 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:15,120 but then, you know, something happens or the kids are down 204 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,680 here. So I put stuff away and then I 205 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:20,480 never, never get back to it. But I have AI have a ton of old 206 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,680 Britannians. So going all the way back to 207 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:28,640 when I was like probably 12 or 13, like I don't, I never really 208 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,000 threw anything out. I kind of just kept it and moved 209 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,040 house and then fortunately my parents have lived in the same 210 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,720 house for like the last 40 years. 211 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:45,760 So a lot of stuff stayed there up until like I was probably 212 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:51,120 maybe when I hit 30, I went back and I tried to get everything, 213 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,720 but then I realized my brother had sold a bunch of shit. 214 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,640 So that kind of was disappointing, but yeah, all my 215 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,920 old epic stuff he like sold on eBay and all kinds of crazy 216 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,560 stuff like that. So yeah, it was. 217 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,920 But I, I pretty much ever since like I was 12 or 13, like I've 218 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,680 just been hardcore, you know? So it's interesting though I 219 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:24,760 don't like I don't follow new Games Workshop stuff. 220 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,200 Like I'll watch, I'll watch the website or whatever, but I don't 221 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,360 really buy a whole lot of stuff anymore. 222 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,200 But I do buy miniatures. Do you know what I mean? 223 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Like, so I'll buy older stuff. Like like recently I bought a 224 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,280 bunch of old miniatures. I bought a bunch of ogres. 225 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,240 I think I got a video on that coming up soon. 226 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,960 All like Morgan Thorg and all those guys. 227 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,760 Classic, classic ogres. I completed my set of those 228 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,680 finally. But yeah, it's, I don't know, 229 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Love the hobby, man, Love the hobby. 230 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,720 I know that much. Yeah. 231 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,040 We can feel the energy, mate, and when you're watching videos, 232 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,760 that's for sure. So let's go back. 233 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,200 You mentioned you discovered the hobby run away when you're 13 or 234 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,000 so. How did that sort of come about? 235 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:19,360 Oh, plastic army men to Dungeons and Dragons. 236 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,160 You know, keep on the Borderlands, that kind of stuff. 237 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:29,040 And then Dragon Magazine to a picture, I can still remember it 238 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:34,960 to this day, picture color ad in Dragon magazine for Citadel 239 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,560 dwarfs. And I was like, Oh my God, these 240 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,240 are awesome. And it was, you know, the color 241 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,880 plate with all the name dwarf characters and everything. 242 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:49,480 And after that, like I just tried to find them, which was 243 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,480 the problem back then, you know. And eventually I figured out 244 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,360 White Dwarf, got a couple copies of like an old White Dwarf 245 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,040 somehow, and one of them had a list of like stockists. 246 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,600 And I found the place called the Game Room in Woodbridge, NJ, 247 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,920 which was probably like an hour and a half from my house. 248 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,600 And I just begged my dad to take me there. 249 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:22,160 And eventually he acquiesced. And it was all downhill from 250 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,560 there, man. But I remember that day, like, 251 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,080 you know, piling in the red station wagon with like, my 252 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,600 brother and two of my other buddies and saving up our money 253 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,120 and just going in there and seeing like, all the regiments 254 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,880 of renowned box sets on the wall and everything. 255 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Like, my mind was fucking blown, dude. 256 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,560 I was. And then ever since then, it's 257 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,320 never stopped. And it's gotten worse, probably. 258 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,200 I'd say so. But. 259 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Yeah, so and then and then it's like always, I'm just like when 260 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,440 I was a kid, my grandfather was like the dude I looked up to and 261 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,120 he was a World War 2 Navy guy. So it was like, you know, board 262 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,720 games and war games and access and allies and all those kind of 263 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,520 things. And then it was, you know, I 264 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,560 realized that like, not only could you play DND with like 265 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,920 miniatures, but like Warhammer was like, I could have my whole 266 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,920 whole army like Lord of the Rings. 267 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,920 Like, this is insane. Like, yeah. 268 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,600 And then it was, it was all in ever since then, man, so. 269 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,200 Brilliant, that's nice mate. Now, yeah, I'm looking at your 270 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,240 wonderful games room here because I can see lots of books 271 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,160 and games on the shelf that you probably covered over the the 272 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:45,080 the course of your channel. Oh, let let me have a look mate. 273 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,800 I'll that's. Just one wall, dude. 274 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,800 It's a lot bigger than I thought. 275 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,280 I thought it'd be a lot smaller than this, but it's a big place. 276 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,680 It's a big, big. Basement I live in a row house, 277 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,600 so I don't know if they, they have those like I don't know 278 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,160 they, they've got tiny houses in Japan, but for America it's, you 279 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,440 know, it's a it's a small house. My house is 16 foot wide, right? 280 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:13,360 So, but it's it's very narrow, but it the entire basement is 281 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,560 stuffed full of games except for, you know, the couch right 282 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,520 there right now I'm set up on the game table and then upstairs 283 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,560 there's the in the first floor. The wife initially said I 284 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,880 couldn't have anything up there, right? 285 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,840 It's got to be a hidden kind of like she don't want to entertain 286 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,000 people around the. World. 287 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,480 Right. So, but there is a built in 288 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,120 bookshelf that runs the length of the wall up there. 289 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,480 And like she doesn't know it, but all the nice looking 290 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Warhammer books, they're up there like all the Forge World 291 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,520 black books and all that kind of stuff. 292 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:55,160 And then under, you know, under our bed is probably another 40 293 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,360 board games or whatever. And then the attic is entirely 294 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,200 stuffed full of just Tupperwares, man. 295 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,720 It's, it's ridiculous. A ton of it's painted. 296 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,079 I'm, I do have a shit ton of pile of shame, like grey models, 297 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,000 but like the majority of my stuff is painted. 298 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,920 So yeah, that's, that's my one big thing. 299 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:24,119 I try like I'm very cognizant of trying not to play with the 300 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,000 unpainted models for the most part. 301 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Like I'll play against people with unpainted models, but like 302 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,280 I feel like to do that is a disservice, like not only to the 303 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,080 hobby, but like to yourself because it's like the like you 304 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,000 lose some of the I don't know if immersion is the right word or 305 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,480 whatnot, but I'm I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about. 306 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,960 Like it's you look at something and you see even if the armies 307 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,600 are painted like average, right? You see two armies painted 308 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,320 average on a nice table. It looks phenomenal versus, you 309 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,440 know, one army that's good and and you know, that one that's 310 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,920 primed or whatever. Like you're like, what's that? 311 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,720 So I'm very cognizant about that. 312 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,040 So yeah, but the dungeon, the dungeon is chock full of shit, 313 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,680 man. Everything I'm touching, 314 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,160 touching all the bases, historicals, GW stuff, board 315 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,680 games, yeah, cards, magic cards, you name it. 316 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,320 So I know definitely not as clean and as organized as your 317 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,000 area my friend. Well, I don't know about that, 318 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,880 but it does need a spring cleaning. 319 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,840 I'm, I'm just looking at new cabinets at the moment on Amazon 320 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,560 to get another cabinet to put on top of this one so I can 321 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,640 actually start putting more miniatures in there because I've 322 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,800 run out of space. Which is probably a good thing 323 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,440 because yeah, I've, I've now maximized all of my painting 324 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,240 shell space. So I need more shell space to 325 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,720 put more painted models in there. 326 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:53,800 So that is a good thing actually. 327 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,720 In a way, yeah. It's not necessarily. 328 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,360 No, no, not at all. Not at all, mate. 329 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,080 So I'm pretty happy about that. But yeah, I mean, I've, yeah, 330 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,880 I'm in a tiny little room, maybe just like 1/4 of what your smoke 331 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,280 dungeon. What the diabetes is? 332 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,600 But you know, I manage with what I've got to facilitate every, 333 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,600 all the terrain and painted models and everything like that 334 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,200 as best I can. So let's get back to, I want to 335 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,120 ask you a question. What, what are you? 336 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,200 What are you? Could you, I know you cover lots 337 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,320 of different things on your channel. 338 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,960 What is peak Warhammer for you? What, what era are we talking 339 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,120 about? That's peak for you. 340 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:39,120 Oh gosh, for for fantasy, it's going to be third third edition 341 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:44,240 Fantasy Battle Warhammer Army's book and then bleed over into 342 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,160 the next edition, which I'm pretty sure is 4th, which would 343 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:54,720 be like Thorin grudge bearer in the like the dwarf throne. 344 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,840 Is that that's 4th edition right? 345 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,880 It's all in this glorious book, mate. 346 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Yeah, I got I got mine right here, dude, I got mine right 347 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,720 here. So that would be that would be 348 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,360 my peak, what I would think is the best. 349 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,520 I mean, I don't know, like I rules wise and all that crap, I 350 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,960 don't want to argue about that. But like when I think of 351 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,960 Warhammer, that's kind of what I think of a lot. 352 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,400 Even though I will say that time there was a switchover from like 353 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,840 I feel like third edition was a very dark version of Warhammer 354 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:35,720 and then 4th edition was more cartoony or or what not, at 355 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:41,480 least to me personally. And I still enjoy both of those. 356 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,480 And I feel that that is when Warhammer was like kind of at 357 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,720 its best early. 90s yeah, I think we're on the same page, 358 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,080 mate. We're probably at the same very 359 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,520 similar age anyway. But yeah, this is like, I know 360 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,640 what you mean. Third edition. 361 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,920 I admire it for it's, it's certain quality that it had, 362 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,800 like in terms of just the the presentation that it had and the 363 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,600 stylization. Yeah, the the artists were just 364 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,160 incredible off the charts. I think that's a large part of 365 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,960 it, Josh, is that like at that point, at least in my life, like 366 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,920 looking at that art, you know, we, we had trouble digesting the 367 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,600 rules and all that kind of stuff and just kind of did our, you 368 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,160 know, the best we could. But every day, like, you know, 369 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,960 we if we played, we might get into an argument with one 370 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,080 another or whatever, but you still went back and you looked 371 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,640 at that book and you like daydreamed about, you know, God, 372 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,760 I wish I could make a Nippon army with temple dogs or like, 373 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,480 you know what I mean, just crazy stuff like that. 374 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,960 And it was be I'm almost positive it's because of the 375 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,840 art. So, you know, and I played a lot 376 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,240 of rogue trader. We played a lot of Rogue Trader 377 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:55,200 and, and so when I think of 40 Ki kind of think Rogue Trader 378 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,040 2nd edition, but I also bleed in the that one. 379 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,400 I bleed into third edition 2, which is was like the Rhino rush 380 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,680 edition I think. So I kind of cause at that time 381 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,840 I was, I was playing tournaments then. 382 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:14,120 Which? I like, yeah, I don't know. 383 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,320 I mean, they were like Baltimore GT, things like that. 384 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,120 So I would, I would go to those and, and in the states we had, I 385 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:24,080 guess they were called Rogue Trader tournaments. 386 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,400 They were like independent tournaments. 387 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,160 I would do those at my local and then me and a couple of buddies 388 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,320 would travel to like wherever another buddy originally grew 389 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,280 up. You know, we'd go there and play 390 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,720 there, get smashed and at some bar and then, you know, do that 391 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,400 kind of thing. So that's that's peak Warhammer 392 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,120 for me. Dude. 393 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,920 Is that in like second edition Blood Bowl, I guess would be 394 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,320 another big one for me. Played a lot of Blood Bowl as a 395 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,360 kid. Yeah. 396 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,560 And, and like, literally we played like every. 397 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,040 The only game I didn't play when I was a kid for the most part 398 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,880 was we didn't really play a lot of Necromunda, but we played 399 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,760 literally. I played everything out like Man 400 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:14,080 of War, Space Hulk, you name it. So and I had a bunch of bunch of 401 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,600 armies like when I was a kid, it was funny. 402 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,960 We used to play third edition fantasy battle in my parents 403 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,320 basement and there would be like four of us. 404 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,000 We would play on like this 8 by 4 piece of plywood. 405 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:34,320 And the last time I was at my mom's house, I found a picture 406 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,240 of like me and another guy. He had Wood elves and I had 407 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,760 Brutonians and, and all this. And we were doing like the Andy 408 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,960 Chambers, you know, like the pictures from Warhammer armies 409 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,200 and stuff. That's like what we were trying 410 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,360 to do. I was like, God, man, even when 411 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,120 we were like 13 with it was just, yeah, brilliant. 412 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,400 So it's just, it's wild. So. 413 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,000 Yeah, that's awesome. But. 414 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,120 But yeah, those early early 90s are probably peak Warhammer for 415 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:07,760 me I feel. Yeah, not to, I feel like a lot 416 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520 of it changed when Lord of the Rings came out, if I'm honest, 417 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,640 but I don't, you know, like a, a lot of the, the focus and 418 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,400 everything came off of that. So. 419 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,760 But I've always as far as like miniature games and stuff go 420 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,600 like I've always kind of played World War Two games as well and 421 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,560 just like board games and stuff like that. 422 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,400 And what I really enjoy, and I know you, you like them too, are 423 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,040 the old Games Workshop like Shelf games or, or you know, 424 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,080 like Dungeon Quest Dragon, like those kind of things, dude, like 425 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,120 that. That's my other wheelhouse. 426 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,560 Or like Armageddon or Horse Heresy, like those things. 427 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,640 They get, they get the juices flowing. 428 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,680 So even though they they, they hold out, but they're not, you 429 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,080 know, as far as war games go or whatever, they're not that 430 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,360 great. So, but I think they're awesome, 431 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,120 so. Yeah, I've got to admit I'm 432 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,760 really enjoying my soul. I'm doing a solo campaign of 433 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,560 advance here request, which is my sort of gateway into old 434 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,080 hammer because I did have the 3rd edition book from Lamar, 3rd 435 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,640 3rd edition fantasy. But again, it was such a complex 436 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,480 beast. I mean, I can't work it out like 437 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,320 someone who's never played a war game before. 438 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,360 That's quite a, that's quite an, you know, a something you need 439 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,240 to go to college for or something to learn. 440 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,480 The very hefty. Term the hefty term it's got a 441 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,560 bit of heft to it that's for sure yeah it's pretty pretty 442 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,680 intimidating but we we did try I had some smart Norwegian guys 443 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,520 who sort of who picked up the bull said Oh yeah we can play 444 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,320 this and they they played it for me and showed me how to play it 445 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,240 but yeah but, but 4th edition was like the I call it the age 446 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,320 of enlightenment. I think we came out of the the 447 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,160 glory dark days of Blanche's envisionment of Warhammer, and 448 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,360 we came into this new new age where Bill King took the stories 449 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:03,720 and made characters and they just, yeah, just turned the 450 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,720 contrast up to to 11. And you've got this new version 451 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,240 of Warhammer with all the cards and stuff like that. 452 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,840 That's really my sort of the 1st. 453 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,400 Set of Black Library books too. I felt like like Wolf Riders by 454 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,040 Bill King. Yeah, the Felix and Go trick 455 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,800 story. I read the cover off of that man 456 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,280 like nobody's business, but I had that one. 457 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,880 I had, I think I had Drakenfelds and a couple of those that were, 458 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,480 you know, the original Space Marine one or whatever. 459 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,080 I mean, Wolf riders was the one that I loved, like Felix and go 460 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,320 Track where just I mean, when you're a kid and they come out 461 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,520 and you're you've been reading D&D stories and stuff and then 462 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,920 it's like a whole nother level, you're like, yes, please, I'll 463 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,720 take that. So. 464 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,480 I'd I'd recommend if you haven't seen it yet is Bill King's 465 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520 interview with Film Deck Miniatures. 466 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,120 Oh, Oh, yeah, that's that's one of the few, few Youtubes that I 467 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,120 do watch because it's it's interesting just because he 468 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:06,520 pretty much just lets him go and I like that. 469 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,920 Tom-tom is great. I really like him. 470 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,600 I had him on the podcast too. I found him a really nice guy. 471 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,680 And I like, I find his interviews very genuine and, and 472 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,440 I like it that he sort of just stands off and he just lets them 473 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,400 talk and I like that, you know, so you just get to hear their, 474 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,120 their story, their, their thoughts and that kind of thing. 475 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,040 But yeah, Bills, the interview was good because he talks about 476 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,920 the obviously Godric and Felix a lot as his favorite kind of 477 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,960 characters that he developed and wrote about. 478 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,160 But of course, a lot of stuff he just can't remember because it's 479 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,040 such a long time ago. Well, yeah, I mean, that's I, I 480 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,080 can only imagine because I have trouble, you know, use. 481 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:48,000 I used to remember it all and now even I'm just like what? 482 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Who? So I mean, I could only imagine 483 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,640 somebody like that that writes so many stories or or whatnot. 484 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,640 You know, just keeping the adventures straight in your head 485 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,680 is a lot. So Yep, that's right mate. 486 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,720 Any outlook? We're going to go for a quick 487 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,440 advertisement break, a quick break and when we come back, pay 488 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,800 the bills. More about your Yep, take more 489 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,720 talk more about the collections and your armies and games you're 490 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,920 playing now. 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BB doesn't drink anymore. 503 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,040 I don't drink anymore. It's been DB was DB was bad. 504 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,040 I, I was bad for a long time. And I, I talked about that in 505 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,960 some of my some of my videos. I don't know if I have recently 506 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,680 or not, but 'cause I, it's not like a thing where I like to 507 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,600 make people feel some kind of way about it. 508 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,280 I don't know. But like, I haven't had a drink 509 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,520 for over 10 years, 'cause I was. Oh, wow, yeah, I was, it was 510 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,280 pretty much that. And some other things were 511 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,480 pretty much more important to me at certain times in my life than 512 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,080 like anything else. And then I finally got a, got a 513 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,480 hold on it, you know, and. After. 514 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,920 You prevails or whatever you would say so, but it's strangely 515 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,520 enough I, I mean, I work at a bar now like I was an accountant 516 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,920 for years, but now since I've had kids, I, I work day bar, 517 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,120 which everyone finds ironic 'cause you know when you're 518 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,280 there people, people want to buy you a drink or whatever. 519 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,520 And I'm just like, Nah, it's cool. 520 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,920 Don't worry about it. And they're like, you know, does 521 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,160 it bother you to be around? I'm like, no, you're paying me, 522 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,360 so I'm OK I. Don't know. 523 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,160 I did. I did pick up that because I, I 524 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,200 did, you know, obviously having followed your channel and 525 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,320 watching, going back and watching some of the older 526 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,480 videos, I did pick up that you worked at the bar and I think I 527 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,240 did pick up that you hadn't, or you stopped drinking or 528 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,680 something like that. So thank you very, very much for 529 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,240 being honest about that mate, because I know some people that 530 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,120 for that. I mean, you know, people look at 531 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,640 me and think I'm a complete piss head and they're probably right. 532 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,840 You know, I do. I do enjoy, I do enjoy a drink. 533 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,280 But I never, when I was young, I didn't drink at all, didn't 534 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,680 drink at all. I couldn't stand the stuff. 535 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,160 I thought it was absolutely disgusting. 536 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,680 I thought that the smell and taste of beer was like puke. 537 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,640 I thought, how can anybody drink this shit? 538 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,960 It's terrible. And look at that, he's a whiskey 539 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,760 guy now. Every Friday, you and Gork are. 540 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:05,280 Yeah, that's it. Yeah, nothing wrong as long as 541 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,640 you do it if you as long as you got responsibility. 542 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,280 And but I know, I know there are some pitfalls for anything like 543 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,400 that, any kind of substance that that, you know, and I used to 544 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,480 enjoy the old wacky backy mate. I I love the wacky backy. 545 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,360 I thought I was never going to stop wacky backy. 546 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,560 But then a bit of clarity, I think, you know, took hold and I 547 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,960 thought, you know, I can't be a Stoner for the rest of my life. 548 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,240 I think I'd better just start growing up and taking things 549 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520 seriously. But I enjoyed it while I did it. 550 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,560 It was nice. It was great. 551 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,840 Yeah, well, I I still enjoy that so. 552 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,440 Mate, you should do enjoy it. I wish I could, you know, I I 553 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,400 wish I could. I think my wife will definitely 554 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,960 kill me, you know, But yeah. And I enjoyed the cigarettes. 555 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200 I I smoked every day. I loved it. 556 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,400 I thought, I can't give this up. I fucking love it mate. 557 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,720 Every time I did, I mean, I've been, I mean, I don't even, I've 558 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:06,680 been smoking for like 30 some years now and it's I think about 559 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,120 quitting and I feel like every time I think about quitting, I 560 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,920 end up smoking more. So I you know, I don't, I don't 561 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,360 know. So I know it's, you know, I'm 562 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,000 not dumb. I know what, what it does to me 563 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680 and everything. And I got kids and I think about 564 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,400 all that, you know, all that shit. 565 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,680 Usually I start thinking about that shit and then I'm like God 566 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,880 damn, I need a cigarette so. Like you say, you do as you feel 567 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,400 and like you did one day you might just because I think 568 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,360 that's what happened to me. Like one day I thought, yeah, 569 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,680 this is, you know, a stink and it doesn't smell good. 570 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,400 I mean, I was teaching in, in a, in a school and I thought I was 571 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,320 teaching kids and I thought, this is not a good thing. 572 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320 I've got to stop. I've got to put up either. 573 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,840 Got to say, OK, I'm going to smoke when I go, when I drive 574 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,960 home. Because that was the thing I 575 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 really enjoyed the most is driving, driving, listening to 576 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,720 music at night and smoking on the way home. 577 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Beautiful. I loved it. 578 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,400 I absolutely loved it. I mean, it's really hard to give 579 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680 up. It's, it's funny because when I 580 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,560 was a kid I hated, hated cigarettes, man. 581 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,560 My, my best friend's mom would like sit in the living room and 582 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,280 smoke like all day long. And I'd go over there and play 583 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,960 and hang out and like play Nintendo and stuff and come home 584 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,280 and just be wreaking. Or like I'd go to my 585 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,000 grandparents house and they, you know, they were born in 1910. 586 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,440 So they're like cigarettes were medicine and I was I think I was 587 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,080 14 when my grand 13 or 14. I cut my grandfather's grass and 588 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,440 he handed me a pack of non filtered Pall Malls. 589 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,200 You know, that was like payment. So which went over like a lead 590 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,400 balloon with my mother. But you know that. 591 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,400 So that's like and I hated cigarette. 592 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,000 But then, you know, I guess Christ, sometime in high school 593 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,520 I started smoking and I just, yeah, that's one, that's one 594 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,120 thing I haven't given up yet, but hopefully one day. 595 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,080 You enjoy it for me, mate, You enjoy it for me because I'll. 596 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,720 Do my best for now, Josh. I love this. 597 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,880 I love the smell of it. I usually like stand near people 598 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,159 who's smoking because I just love inhaling that that 599 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,800 beautiful, that beautiful smell. I fucking hate that smell. 600 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,400 I smoke, I smoke like 1/2 a pack of cigarettes a day and like 601 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,400 somebody smoked a cigarette next to me and I'm like, get the fuck 602 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,520 away from me. Like I said, I'm a I'm a 603 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,440 conundrum there, but you. Know. 604 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,920 Yeah, no, that's good, mate. That's good, but OK, let's let's 605 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,440 get it back on track. We, we sort of diverge a little 606 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,000 bit there. Sorry that that was all my fault 607 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,239 too, but that what, what? What games do you enjoy playing 608 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,360 now like these days? Oh well I'll tell you what, like 609 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000 in October I played a game of at at our get together. 610 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,800 I played a game of 2nd edition and that was the first game of 611 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,480 2nd edition. I probably played in at least 612 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,840 like 5 or 6 years and I had I had a blast. 613 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,200 I loved it. It was, it was, I mean it was 614 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,800 typical second edition wackiness, you know, shooting a 615 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,000 multi melta and it blew up all four of my terminators and one 616 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,880 one shot, you know, and I was like, OK, let's we're playing, I 617 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,040 think 1500 points. I was like, well, that's, that's 618 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,920 like half my army right there. So cool, you know, that kind of 619 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,920 thing, goofy psychic powers and you know all that kind of stuff. 620 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:34,480 So that one I really enjoyed. But currently I guess GW games 621 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,640 I've been playing with my brother, I've been playing a 622 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,160 bunch of legions, Imperialis, the new epic. 623 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,880 I really enjoy that one. We got a we actually have a 624 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,640 third edition match scheduled for over spring break for the 625 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080 kids. So that that way hopefully we'll 626 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,400 get a get a little action. He's going to be undead. 627 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200 I'm going to he doesn't know it yet, but I'm going to go chaos 628 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,320 on him, get a little cast worth bazooka and all the the old good 629 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,800 stuff on him. My buddies are my buddies are 630 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,000 hot in the man of war the last couple of probably the last 18 631 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,080 months. So I'm going to go visit one of 632 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:23,600 my buddies actually couple weeks and play some epic hail Caesar. 633 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,080 But he has I'm going to while I'm up there. 634 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,360 I'm going to take, I think I'm going to try and sneak a video 635 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,640 'cause I'm staying at his house. So maybe after he goes to sleep, 636 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,200 I'll take a video of his, his man of war stuff for you and 637 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,720 I'll, I'll, I'll do ADB sneaking out, doing some man of war 638 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,520 because his stuff is absolutely phenomenal. 639 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,400 It's the dude, the same guy who's slanish army I showed off. 640 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,520 Oh yeah. Wow. 641 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,480 Yeah, it was fantastic. Yeah. 642 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,840 Yeah. So his Man of War stuff is, is 643 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,120 that level? It's it's pretty ridiculous. 644 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,360 So I'm I'm going up there in a few weeks to battle his Romans. 645 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,240 So those are that. And then I think I've been into, 646 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,720 I've been into Cowboys recently. I don't know if you're familiar 647 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,720 with Legends of the Old West, Warhammer historicals. 648 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,920 I've heard of it. I've heard of it. 649 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,640 I was really big into all the Warhammer historical stuff 650 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,840 because I when I went to college I was an ancient history, got my 651 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,480 degree in ancient history and classical mythologies and went 652 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,560 on to become an accountant. So you know there's hope for you 653 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,720 all. As you do, yeah. 654 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,680 Yeah, exactly. I made my way up to CFO with 655 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,480 with a bullshit history degree. So you know, but I'm, I'm really 656 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,880 into the Warhammer historical like Gladiator and all that kind 657 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,120 of stuff. Just 'cause it, it scratches 658 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,840 both itches for me. And we've been, there's been a 659 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,160 lot of talk amongst the guys recently about Cowboys. 660 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,760 So I got out all my Legends of the Old West stuff. 661 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,000 But we're going to, we're going to do it up a notch. 662 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,400 They'll be, you know, Comanches turning into sasquatches and all 663 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,880 kinds of crazy, craziness. So it'll be like Cowboys with 664 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,160 magic or whatever. But recently that's, yeah, 665 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,240 that's what I've, that's what I've been into a bunch of that. 666 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,960 And then buying old hammer adjacent miniatures like Asgard 667 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,080 miniatures, older stuff like that, or Tim Prowse stuff like 668 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,240 his chaos, his chaos. What are they the I guess 669 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:35,480 they're called chaos Marauders, but like that are all very much 670 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,280 old. They got that old vibe going on 671 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,000 like that. That's the kind of stuff I've 672 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,720 been buying recently and trying to paint. 673 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,800 So a little complex 47 too, but I know that's not your not your 674 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,600 wheelhouse either, so. Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's it's 675 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,760 it's good that it's out. Like I like I said to many 676 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,280 people, like I don't it doesn't worry me what people are 677 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,440 playing. The the fact that people are 678 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,760 actually committing to play a game or buy something and paint 679 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,320 the miniatures and play a daily golf game. 680 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,720 That's that's the that's that's great. 681 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,640 I mean, it's still going. I mean, it's wonderful because 682 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,280 sometimes I think, you know, maybe because I think a lot of 683 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,440 topics come up like this, you know, is the is the war gaming 684 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,320 seen sort of fading away and, you know, is there a generation 685 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,200 to follow up on our in our in our footsteps to take it over? 686 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,800 I think if you look at a lot of those war game shows, there are 687 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,680 a lot of young people there engaged with historical gaming 688 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,080 with all types of these home brew, not home brew, but, but 689 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,440 what do you call indie games and that kind of things? 690 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,960 Yeah, there's still a lot of people out there doing it, you 691 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,520 know? I feel a lot of it just from 692 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,080 being in it, you know, the majority of my life. 693 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,680 My my philosophy is that it, it all comes full, full circle, 694 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,320 right. So it's like you might start 695 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,200 with Warhammer, but one day each and every one of us like more 696 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,360 you get more appealing to be those two old guys sitting in 697 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,960 the corner of the gaming hall playing some weird ass game that 698 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,000 like, you know, only they play that they paint their miniatures 699 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,760 or whatever like. That I feel like that comes for 700 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,880 us all one day. You know, I used to go to 701 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,000 Historicon and all these conventions and like laugh and, 702 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,760 you know, make fun. And then now that's now that's 703 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,800 that's me and my buddy. I'll be up in his basement 704 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,560 pushing around tiny Carthaginians, you know, like 705 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,720 it's, you know, but I still like, that being said, I still 706 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:35,720 always come back to like old, old Warhammer stuff for like 707 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,200 older D&D that, that period, you know, the, the early 90s, late 708 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,320 80s, Like I always just the appeal was there, you know? 709 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,400 Yeah, yeah, the I've I've I've started watch you start a 710 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,400 falling guy on YouTube. This just covers Dragon Lance 711 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,840 for like AD and D OK, which is amazing. 712 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,000 I love all the art. I don't really, you know, I'm 713 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,640 I'm not a big role. Larry Ellmore. 714 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,360 Yeah, Larry Elmore. And who was the other artist who 715 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,640 did a lot of stuff there, too? What? 716 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,080 Was it? Is it Parkinson? 717 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,800 Is it? Keith, I forget the other 718 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,880 person. Anyhow, I used to buy calendars 719 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,720 and stuff back in the 90s of that because. 720 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:15,800 I just. Oh yeah, dude. 721 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,680 Love will be out there for that. I love it, but I even bought the 722 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,800 relpath a set of figures for the Forgotten. 723 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,320 Sorry for Dragonlance, we had all the characters in the main 724 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,520 books. I've read all the books that 725 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,040 that's been, I don't know how many books are in that series. 726 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640 Was a huge amount of books for Dragon Lance. 727 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,240 Yeah, and I, I read, I read a bunch of those like Huma and 728 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:44,400 then the the Dragons trilogy with, with tennis and Sturm and 729 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,960 all those dudes. I can only, I can only wish they 730 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,320 made ATV series on that. If they did that for Dragon, 731 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,360 like for Game of Thrones, but did that for the Dragon Lance 732 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,840 saga, man, that would be just incredible. 733 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,040 I couldn't. Yeah, that'd be my dream, you 734 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,840 master. Cody and all that guys. 735 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,560 Yeah, yeah, it would be yeah, that'd be in yeah. 736 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,880 There's a there's a good there's the Dragon Lands cartoon. 737 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,080 I think I made my kids watch it. They were. 738 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,840 It's. Yeah, that's right. 739 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,120 I found it on YouTube. It was, it was pretty haggard, 740 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,120 you know, but whatever. I was like, kids watch this. 741 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,440 They were, you know, they were, they were somewhat enthralled. 742 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560 And then they were like, yeah, there's not enough Dragons. 743 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,960 It's like, all right, sorry. But that's when that's when they 744 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,000 had the the Dragon King. What were they called again? 745 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,760 Those dragon guys? Oh, the Draconians. 746 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,680 Draconians. Yeah, they're the real bad ass 747 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,160 lizardman because Lizardman in in fantasy I couldn't get 748 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,680 behind. But these guys, they are scary. 749 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,080 They're scary as fuck. Yeah. 750 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,360 Even when they died they did like crazy shit like turn to 751 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,760 stone. Right. 752 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,880 That's right. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 753 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,640 They were cool, Yeah. I really like, I play, I played 754 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:01,360 a ton of D&D as a kid, so and, and up until, up until COVID, 755 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,920 during COVID, we were like playing on, on zoom or whatever. 756 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,520 And then it just kind of, you know, petered out or whatever. 757 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,160 Yeah, I love old. Dragon Lance. 758 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,840 It's good stuff. That's correct. 759 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,040 Yeah, that's good. All right. 760 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,640 What? What's your? 761 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560 Favorite game dude? My favorite game. 762 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,320 Yeah. I think it's going to be 763 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,520 probably around. I think Epic Space Marine would 764 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,600 be my favorite 90s Games Workshop game that I played the 765 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,560 most that I still enjoy playing and we've played in a heartbeat. 766 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:37,080 But but recently, like in terms of like new games, I've got Test 767 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,360 of Honor, which I really found to be an absolute gem of a game. 768 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,920 I as I'm not a big skirmish player, but I really enjoyed 769 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,600 that for the theme and for the actual gameplay itself. 770 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,120 I I found that really, really I can come back to every time. 771 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,720 So that man of War I really love. 772 00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:56,240 I think that's a a great treasure of a game that I I 773 00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:57,360 didn't play back in that I know a. 774 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,400 Lot of people, a lot of people say Man of War might be like, I 775 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,880 mean, I don't necessarily feel this way, but I know several 776 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,560 people that are the opinion of that. 777 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,240 That's probably one of the best, if not the best, Games Workshop 778 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:14,080 game. Yep, it's, it's really good. 779 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,680 I really, I, I feel very blessed that I could find a cop here in 780 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,560 Japan and, and some fleets and got into it and really, you 781 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,520 know, that, that, that was just awesome. 782 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,680 And, and, and I've, I've happily decided I've converted a lot of 783 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,120 people into meta war through playing remote games over COVID 784 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,840 and stuff like that. They're going to buy it, bought 785 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,600 a set and got their fleets and stuff like that. 786 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,640 So that's been fantastic. So there's a real treasure in 787 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,320 that and I love I love the board games like here request. 788 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,720 I've always loved dungeon crawling type games. 789 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:49,120 So advanced here request really enjoyed that. 790 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,920 I've recently discovered Wham a quest, which is a bit of a gem 791 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,720 of a game too. Some sort of about that bit 792 00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:59,080 more. Yeah, it's about the road to 793 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,800 travel down, though. I think it is too, yes, that's 794 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,880 we're dabbling, as you say, dabbling. 795 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,000 But thankfully a friend of mine, he's got a a full set we can 796 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,640 enjoy playing and we can pick that up. 797 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,920 But I think, yeah, I think for me, Epic, mate, Epic is the 798 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480 heart and soul of 90s gaming for me. 799 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,120 I think I played that because Warhammer, as much as I love 800 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:28,040 Warhammer 4th edition, I just never had the I just couldn't 801 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,960 get the models or have had the armies that I really wanted. 802 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,840 It was such an enormous investment, whereas Epic was a 803 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,720 way of getting a whole box full of plastic minis, much like the 804 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,640 much like those like the games you're collecting now that 805 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,000 you're playing in the Epic scale for all games very much, you 806 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,440 just get a whole. Bunch of stuff in the box right 807 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,600 there. That's it. 808 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,200 And you've got really the rules weren't so complicated, whereas 809 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,960 Wama. Would became. 810 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,400 You know, became a bit more complicated and I had a regular 811 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,240 person playing with me. So we we just really got into 812 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:05,720 that and we played with different armies and we played 813 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:08,440 it every weekend religiously, you know. 814 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,280 So yeah, that's and I still, and when I came back to it many 815 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,040 years later, I picked it up and thought, yeah, this is still in 816 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,440 a fantastic game. It wasn't, it wasn't rose tinted 817 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,560 glasses so much it, it was a really fantastic system, you 818 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,880 know, and yeah. I still remember those those old 819 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,120 pictures. They were in White Dwarf, but 820 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,440 one of them might have been in the Space Marine rule book where 821 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,200 it was like it. It was probably like the first 822 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,960 time that I really thought about perspective from like a diorama 823 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,200 and they used like the little epic dudes in the background and 824 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,760 then there were like 328 mil sized space marines, like 825 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,280 looking down at them or something. 826 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,240 Do you remember that? I mean, that's, that's pretty, 827 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,400 it's pretty specific, but I, I mean, I, I distinctly remember 828 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,520 like that picture from like a white dwarf and it, that was 829 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,680 another thing that just, I was just like, Holy, this is so 830 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,480 cool. Like you can do so much with 831 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,120 this. Yes, you can, you can, you can. 832 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,560 And, and, and you get that real sense of a grand scale army 833 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,640 battle, much like, much like the game I saw you play with your 834 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,400 brother there when you're playing the new, new version of 835 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,080 it. Yeah, that's, that's the one, 836 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,320 the one game nowadays that that I still did, I follow like 837 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,240 releases for or, or what not would be the the new epic. 838 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,720 And it's not, you know, it's not the greatest game, but to me 839 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:40,160 it's, it's scratches, scratches that itch, you know, And then 840 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,680 another part of it is my brother will play it. 841 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:46,400 So that's like, you know, I don't get to see him that much 842 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,440 anymore. But like, when I do, I know, 843 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:54,320 like what we can get a game in then that's 'cause he's, he's a 844 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,560 strange bird. But yeah, he won't do multiple, 845 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,720 multiple systems or whatever really. 846 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,840 So it's like, you pick one thing and that's like what he's going 847 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,920 to have time to do And, and he'll do it. 848 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,320 But yeah, whereas me, I'm, I'm shotgun, you know, you, you say 849 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,520 anything and I'm like, hell yeah, I'll, I'll give that a go. 850 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,160 I'll paint something up. Let's do it. 851 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's good, mate. 852 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,040 Yeah, that's half the thing. Like, you know, if you've got 853 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,240 someone to play with, that's half the battle sometimes. 854 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:28,640 Because otherwise you're investing all that time and 855 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,840 painting and playing and you know, like you want to play it, 856 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,280 you want to play, you know, because that's, that's the most 857 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,360 because that's what, that's why I get a lot of fun out of this, 858 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,800 the social aspect of playing games. 859 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,720 So with Warhammer, we're playing Warhammer Renaissance, which is 860 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,200 like a 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th edition combination of all those 861 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,160 things, but hard. It's hard. 862 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,400 It's like 4th edition and we get a lot of fun playing the game, 863 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,720 socializing when we get together and all that kind of thing. 864 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:56,080 So that's, that's a big part of it and getting to the theme of, 865 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,480 you know, painting our armies and, and all that. 866 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:03,400 So the hobby side of things, I think Warhammer is my #1 you 867 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,280 know, for actual painting, collect collecting as a like 868 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680 epic is a totally different thing, totally different 869 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,880 prospect in terms of painting. It's a bit of a chore. 870 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,600 But with Warhammer, with that scale, you get a real sense of, 871 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,120 you know, this is a real accomplishment, painting an 872 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,200 entire army. Oh, yeah. 873 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,600 Oh, yeah. You know, that rule says less is 874 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,080 less is more. With the tiny stuff, Josh, less 875 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,160 is more. Yeah, that's. 876 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,320 True, you can just dabble, you know, you know and so there's 877 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,800 deep apply painting the Titans or I love I love chaos or all 878 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,520 the all the primarks and demons are awesome the the vehicles and 879 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,120 stuff like that. But the infantry is like, yeah, 880 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,240 I just want to get all that stuff ready and done and get out 881 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:44,800 of the way and get to the good stuff. 882 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,240 I go to highlight where's, where's those engines of corn? 883 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:50,680 Yeah, yeah. Exactly, exactly, my friend. 884 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,320 I mean, the hobby, like the just the community aspect of the 885 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,800 hobby is that's why I started my channel in the beginning. 886 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,800 Strangely enough, well, or not strangely enough, I don't know, 887 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:06,720 but was because we would, all my friends and I, everybody had 888 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:10,560 basically moved far enough away where we wouldn't see each other 889 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,080 on a regular basis. And we would do these hobby we 890 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,240 had like I think it was, it might have been Google plus or 891 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:22,840 something through Gmail. And we would just post like what 892 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,200 we were working on and people would post just pictures or a 893 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,480 quick video. And it was like a closed group 894 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,320 of, of us for the most part. And people would put up 895 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,240 challenges. They would be like, you know, 896 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,080 let's everybody paint like a dreadnought or something and 897 00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:43,360 people would do that and share their progress and everything. 898 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,120 And then eventually they took Google plus away or whatever. 899 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,560 So my, my friends switched platforms and me being the 900 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,560 Luddite that I am, I was like, Yo, I don't have time to learn 901 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,320 that. I'm not going to deal with that. 902 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,600 What I'm going to do is just do my own thing down here in the 903 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,720 dungeon and I'm a record it and then I'm a just post it on 904 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:06,000 YouTube. Here's the link to my YouTube 905 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,360 channel. You guys can come, come check 906 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,960 out my progress and because I couldn't be, I couldn't be asked 907 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,600 to like join this new, you know, download this app or whatever, 908 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,880 whatever it was. And and I kind of did it as like 909 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,720 a joke, right? Like it's just like, here's, you 910 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,800 know, me talking shit and painting down in the dungeon. 911 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,280 And then I enjoyed it, right? So I was like, yo, I actually 912 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,560 like, I get something out of this. 913 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,560 So I'm gonna just keep doing it. And like they would text me or 914 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,600 whatever and, and be like, you know, I watched your video. 915 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,400 It's hilarious. And it's, it's like, I'm just 916 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,960 down there painting. I'm like, OK, whatever, dude. 917 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,120 So, and then that's, that's what it was. 918 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,240 And then, you know, like I was like, whatever, I'm going to 919 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,720 show some magic cards or whatever, I'm going to do this. 920 00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:57,040 And then it just, you know, it grew from there organically. 921 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,480 It's, it's still pretty much the same thing as you know, but like 922 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,680 strangely enough, the, the having people to, to interact 923 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,240 with or whatnot was when I left that close group of friends. 924 00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:13,080 That's what I mean. I didn't leave them, but I left 925 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,920 that social circle of interaction online and I just 926 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,680 made my own and was like, you guys, you know, stop by and 927 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,760 visit when you want. But I'm not, I'm not going to 928 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,200 your party. So. 929 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:28,320 But that's, yeah. And then from there it grows. 930 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,160 I mean, they're all still my great friends. 931 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,880 And, you know, they're strangely enough, they still have that 932 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,640 same thing. And they'll they'll text me and 933 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,320 they'll be like, hey, you know, you didn't paint any vehicles 934 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,840 this month. And I'm just like, whatever, 935 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,920 dude, I'm doing what I feel. So. 936 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,440 But that's, you know, as long as you have somebody to play with, 937 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,160 I feel like that's also that's how you break like a lot of the 938 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,160 negativity in the hobby just in general of like the miniature 939 00:52:55,160 --> 00:53:00,080 hobby that I ever am exposed to is all about like, you know, 940 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,680 buying new books or new versions of rules and all these things. 941 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,360 Like you don't need that. All you need is one other dude 942 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,000 to be into the same thing you're into. 943 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,040 And like, you know, if you're, if you're an older person at 944 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,320 least and you have all these things already or what not, like 945 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,000 just find somebody, man. It's, it ain't that hard. 946 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,760 Like Christ, most dudes our age would like kill to hang out 947 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,000 with, you know, no kids and just chill for a few hours pushing, 948 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:34,040 pushing dice and everything. So I don't know, I, I, I, I 949 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,920 don't like that that's like constantly pushed upon people, 950 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,680 you know, and I guess I'm lucky enough that I have all the older 951 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,640 stuff and I don't really buy new rule books or like, you know, I 952 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,360 don't know what edition 40K is on anymore. 953 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:51,280 Like, who cares? You know, I have, I got 5 954 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,560 editions of it already. Why do I need, you know, and I 955 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,640 think it's, it takes people a while to to realize that, right? 956 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,800 And that's, you know, but all you need is a friend and then 957 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,520 Christ, I'm a perfect example. I play games by myself down here 958 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,920 in the dungeon. You know, you don't, even if 959 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,360 you're sad enough, you don't, you don't need a friend. 960 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,600 You know you just need a will. Yeah, that's it, right? 961 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,760 That's it. That's that's very true, mate. 962 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,320 I I totally wholeheartedly agree with that. 963 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,000 And yeah, you just need that. You just need the other half of 964 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,720 the games table or in in your case, or in my case sometimes, 965 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:29,280 yeah, doing it solo. And there's some good and I, I 966 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,240 require enjoy recording my solo adventures of adventure requests 967 00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:36,520 and uploading that to be able to watch and enjoy me swearing at 968 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,760 my dice and that kind of thing. That's always. 969 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,200 Fun. Man, Yeah, that's it, That's it, 970 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,360 you know? I did notice your last one you 971 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,720 you wrote the there were a lot of ones getting rolled there for 972 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:48,640 the works. They were. 973 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,320 They were. Yes, they were well. 974 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,120 Gaffraff put you to the sword there, My. 975 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,880 Yeah, that was a really fun that was probably my because second 976 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,160 edition I didn't really play much in in the 90s and when I 977 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,440 came back from the Uki started playing chaos back then. 978 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,400 I I really wanted that demons army, you know like the 979 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,400 Minotaur, the the chaos warriors beastman. 980 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,080 I mean I. Hate those minotaur models but 981 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,920 like I love just minotaurs in a minotaurs in a sci-fi chaos 982 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,000 army. Like that part to me is a it's 983 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,040 aces right there. So even if your models are like 984 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,720 I mean yours were painted phenomenal. 985 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,240 I just don't like those sculpts. I know what you mean. 986 00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:36,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I don't know. 987 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,080 I just see minotaurs in that, you know, and I'm like, hell 988 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,240 yeah. And like the chaos champion 989 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:45,680 model with the blood letterhead, all that stuff, man, that like 990 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,160 that just yeah. So good. 991 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,320 So free. Talking about minotaurs, you 992 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,040 probably know this one the very first because when I first 993 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:58,360 discovered metal miniatures and a little comic story, now Mall 994 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,000 had a stand, but you could buy like Marauder miniatures and 995 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,760 settled miniatures. I bought a Minotaur that was 996 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,160 like a Minotaur Lord, which came in two parts. 1 was the legs and 997 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,200 the other one was the torso. And the torso is like shaped so 998 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,120 it's crouching over 2 swords. Oh yeah, on the other side maybe 999 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,240 you know, the one where you can visually picture it because it's 1000 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,400 like when I was iconic minotaur designs. 1001 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,560 Yeah. Yeah, there's him and the the 1002 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,280 one, the one where he's shaking his fists and he has like a big 1003 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,560 fever in the air. Yeah, those were the two. 1004 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,400 I'd love a good Minotaur man. Yeah. 1005 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,160 Quality models and those were like some of the first GW 1006 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,520 models, metal ones that were like big ones like that that 1007 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,640 were like multi part. I feel like with that you could 1008 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,640 actually like there were like four or five different heads and 1009 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,800 you could you could head swap them and everything. 1010 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,080 It was like them the same time. It was like the first Dragon 1011 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,160 Ogre came out. All those guys, they're so good, 1012 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,640 so good. They were not. 1013 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,360 Like, I feel like that's the one thing that as miniatures have 1014 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,000 changed and everything, Games Workshop makes fantastic models 1015 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,840 or whatever, but I feel like there's just too much stuff on 1016 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,240 them now. And I didn't understand that at 1017 00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:14,760 first. But you look at like some of the 1018 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,040 newer fantasy models and then you look at the older ones and 1019 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,920 with all of that stuff, like, yeah, it looks cool. 1020 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,760 But for the majority of people, you're going to paint most of 1021 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,200 that stuff one color, you know what I mean? 1022 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,320 Or, or you're going to, you know, you're not you're not 1023 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,560 golden demon in it. So like what? 1024 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,840 That's give me the old school chaos night with the one pouch 1025 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:41,400 and the knife on his belt. You know, like we don't need 1026 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,840 more than that. Especially the older I get. 1027 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,760 I'm like, shit, I ain't got time for that. 1028 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,800 I could paint three of those guys instead of 1, you know? 1029 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,560 Yeah, no, I totally agree with that, mate. 1030 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,520 So that's like you mentioned Tim's diehard miniatures before 1031 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,360 he came up with a new set of Chaos worries. 1032 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,480 You probably picked those up. They look bloody. 1033 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,760 They look bloody phenomenal, mate. 1034 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,960 They look awesome. So they they're really like got 1035 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,600 Harry the Hammer in there. You've got all that sort of old 1036 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:11,360 aesthetic style of those classic miniatures in in embodied in 1037 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,320 those sculpts. Yeah, they look really cool. 1038 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,120 Save character that's a you know, they they character like 1039 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,080 each almost each model that has character. 1040 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,680 Now, you might not like every one of them, but like, you know, 1041 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,640 they're not the same thing with the guy's head turned the other 1042 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,520 way or like, yeah, I don't know. I don't want to be too negative. 1043 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,800 So Tim Prowell's shit is awesome. 1044 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,680 That's that's. What? 1045 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,560 He does some good stuff. Yeah, it does some good stuff, 1046 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,120 mate, that's for sure. And yeah, DB, look, I won't take 1047 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,040 up all of your evening, but I really want to say how much I 1048 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,840 appreciate you coming on and agreeing to come on to talk to 1049 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,000 us. Oh, I appreciate you for. 1050 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,560 Having me, man. And to share the the smoke 1051 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,920 dungeon. The first time I can actually 1052 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,640 see the smoke dungeon in full, which is wonderful. 1053 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,160 I, I told you, if I, if I do a splatter matter, I got to wear a 1054 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,000 Balclava. I'll look, I'll look, I'll look 1055 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,200 like a Serbian ultra or something. 1056 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,960 You can just have the just have the camera putting down on your 1057 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,120 paint table like you do with your videos, you know, like just 1058 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,960 just put that the the laptop screen just face towards it. 1059 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,000 Yeah, tilt it. That's it. 1060 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,280 That's all you're going to do. My production values, my man. 1061 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,920 Yeah, yeah, production values. We're all about in the dungeon. 1062 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,240 So I'll organise that with a few other guys in the US as well. 1063 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,440 Have like a bit of AUS splatter nada and all American splatter 1064 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,400 nada covering all the states from Baltimore to to Washington 1065 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,760 state to. Hey, I I live. 1066 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,160 I don't live in a state. I live in the the good nation's 1067 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,560 capital. We're a district man. 1068 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,000 Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. 1069 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,720 OK. Well, that's great. 1070 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,240 Not to not to get all geography on you, you know. 1071 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,960 No, but I'll keep some. American. 1072 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,920 Civic, I will hope, I really do hope to visit America at some 1073 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,240 point because I've met some really wonderful people through 1074 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,240 the chronic command who live there. 1075 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,440 Yeah, I'd love to do that one day, be a really exciting 1076 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,680 adventure, but. Yeah, it's a great place. 1077 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,680 We'll see. Yeah, mate, it's a beautiful, 1078 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,400 beautiful place. Beautiful place. 1079 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,200 Absolutely mate. But as more of Japan, I want to 1080 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:17,600 go and visit and I and other other places around here, so. 1081 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,800 Have you made a Janan, mate? I have not, no. 1082 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,400 My wife was actually there. Was it last last fall? 1083 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,920 My wife is there last fall. I believe she brought me back 1084 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:34,600 some, some Zakus, some some Gundams, she brought me back 1085 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,080 some, some aircraft carrier models. 1086 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:43,080 So some, I think it was a Soriu, IJN Soriu, some World War 2 1087 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,360 models and then some Ultraman buttons and stickers and you 1088 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,240 know, sundry, sundry things like that. 1089 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,440 Probably all things you could get in America. 1090 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,960 Knowing my wife, she, you know, she went into some, it looked 1091 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,640 like a hobby, like a hobby high rise or something. 1092 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,360 And she was, she was totally overwhelmed, I'm pretty sure so. 1093 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,280 She probably went to Akiabara. I'd say in that big hobby. 1094 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,200 There's like 7 floors of it and that's my favorite place. 1095 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,880 All right. She sent me, sent me some 1096 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,280 pictures. I was like, what in God's name 1097 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:14,800 is that? Yeah. 1098 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,440 Yeah, you'll have to make it over with him one day. 1099 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,880 Yeah, good man. She's hobby averse though, dude. 1100 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,960 So she didn't, she didn't know what was going on. 1101 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,880 I was just like finding them Zakus. 1102 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,760 So you don't know somebody. So. 1103 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,800 Good on you, mate. Well, you got to, you got to get 1104 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,560 something from Japan in the smoke dungeon. 1105 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:32,720 That's good. Good to represent. 1106 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,560 Yeah. Yeah, she brought me a football 1107 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,560 shirt too, so oh cool, that's my thing. 1108 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,800 I get her to she she travels all the time so I get her to give me 1109 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,200 football shirts. Nice mate, that's great. 1110 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,240 Which one did she get you for from Japan if you don't mind? 1111 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,840 See, now you're putting me on the spot. 1112 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,400 I think it might have been a national. 1113 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,840 It might have been a national team jersey, actually. 1114 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,880 Cool. Yeah, She got my kids, she got 1115 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,720 my kids club jerseys though. It's funny. 1116 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,960 Yeah, depending on where she goes, I'll, I'll ask her for 1117 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,920 like specific kits and stuff. Yeah. 1118 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,040 And like, I've, I've set her up before, like she goes to Italy a 1119 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:15,000 bunch and I sent her in there into the Lazio, Lazio store and 1120 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,800 was like, give me a Decano jersey. 1121 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,680 You know, I played nice little little tricks like that on her 1122 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,120 where she's she doesn't know what's going on. 1123 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,320 So but yeah, that's, that's my thing. 1124 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,080 Football shirts from around the world. 1125 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,200 Great. Well, just just to edit on a 1126 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,360 football note, my local team down here, down the road here, 1127 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,880 Mitt to Hollyhocks, they're called, They've been in the J2 1128 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,520 because there's only J2J1. Yeah, there's only two divisions 1129 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,240 in Japan. They've been languishing in J2 1130 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,800 forever like always mid table they never. 1131 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,920 Are we going up this year? Last year they won it, mate. 1132 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,440 They won, they won. They won the championship. 1133 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,360 They've been promoted up to J1, which is incredible. 1134 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,240 So yeah, I'm going to go take my son because I'm getting trying 1135 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,280 to get my son into soccer and he enjoys kicking the ball around. 1136 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,160 He did try playing with the other kids, but he always got, 1137 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,960 he always got laid up on the floor and, you know, stomped on 1138 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,320 or, you know, he's always in the goal, goal goalie, you know, 1139 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,680 trying to get out of the physical conflict. 1140 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,240 You know, you need him, the physical conflict, mate, you 1141 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,560 know, to get in there. But he's a sensitive boy. 1142 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,960 Get stuck in. But yeah, I'll have to go, go 1143 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,400 my. Oldest is my oldest is 9 and 1144 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,720 he's a Wolverhampton fan. Dude died in the wolves. 1145 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,920 Wolves hand wolves. Yeah. 1146 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,680 I don't know what I did to him, but yeah, he's, he's, he's he. 1147 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,400 Must be that cool cool club emblem. 1148 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,280 I love that emblem. I'm pretty sure that had 1149 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,120 something to do with it. I told him. 1150 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,160 I said, dude, once you hit 10, you you can't change. 1151 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,960 Like don't feel like in Man United or come get on me. 1152 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,600 You got to you got to stay with wolves once you hit double. 1153 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,160 Pigs. Well, Paul Buggers. 1154 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,360 They'll be going to the Championship next. 1155 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,400 Season, he was, he was excited. He was like, maybe we can win a 1156 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,920 trophy, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's true. 1157 01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,760 Look at the bright side. Yeah, exactly. 1158 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,680 Bring some joy to the Molyneux. So. 1159 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,600 Yeah. All right, my friend. 1160 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,560 Well, I appreciate you very much. 1161 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,240 No one. Appreciate you mate, thank you 1162 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,440 so much and I'll be in touch about doing their splatter Nader 1163 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,520 at some point in the future mate. 1164 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,280 OK, but you take care of yourself. 1165 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,080 Enjoy the enjoy the smoke dungeon, enjoy a few smokes. 1166 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,600 Smokes for me mate and we'll catch you up again soon. 1167 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:23,920 Take care. I got it man. 1168 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:25,920 See ya. 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