1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,240 Hey, welcome back everybody to the Panic Command Podcast. 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,120 Today I've got two very special guests, guests of mine that are 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,200 on our Discord group and who are actively part of our Manawar 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,360 community and that's Chris Snyder. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,440 How you going, Chris? Good, Good, Good. 6 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:25,520 Excellent. And Karen Fletcher, how you 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:25,920 going, man? Yeah. 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:27,720 I'm good. How are you? 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Very good. Thank you. 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,680 Yeah, I'm really glad you guys can come along and chat with me 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,760 today. And it's going to be all about a 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,320 game that we really enjoy. It's one of the specialist games 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,480 that games which were released in 1992. 14 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:41,640 Is that right? Cameron, 92? 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,080 Right. Yeah, it's a. 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,520 Right, 93. It's my my copyright date says 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,360 93 right on in the book but I don't know that could be no I'm. 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,960 Thinking about right, mate, I'm thinking about right. 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,160 I think about 93. Sorry, I should have checked 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,920 that. But you can check out Cameron's 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,480 YouTube video we talked about last in the last episode or two 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,640 episodes ago, when Cameron just went through the whole history 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,400 and basically everything about you. 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,320 All you need to know about the game on his YouTube channel, 25 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:12,800 which is Kraken's Wave. Wake. 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,480 Wake. Wake Kraken's wake. 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,560 Yeah, yeah, which will be a link in the show notes here in the 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,200 description of the podcast. So you can go and check that out 29 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,480 and learn all about the game. But today it's our discussion 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,080 based on the fleets that we like to take and bring to the table 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,640 of Man of War and why we like to take them. 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,440 And maybe we'll talk about later about Chris and Cameron's 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,400 involvement with our Discord remote games too after that, but 34 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,960 let's get to the meet of the discussion guys. 35 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:45,200 Which fleet do you like to take in, Man of War and why? 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Chris, would you like to start? Of course not. 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,840 Let me give you a little disclaimer right up front. 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:58,680 OK, so though I own everything from Man of War, I still only 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,880 stuck with the base set. I haven't branched out at the 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,840 base set yet. Part of it is because I like to 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,320 only play with what I have painted and that's really all I 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,960 have painted so far. And I still am really enjoying 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,280 all of the content in the main, the main base man War game. 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,880 And you know, for anybody who's interested in getting into the 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,240 game, you know, unlike some other games like like I wouldn't 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,680 play Blood Bowl without the Death Zone expansion and I 47 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,480 wouldn't play, you know, 40K without the Darth Millennium. 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,720 But I think there's enough in Man of War just to keep you go 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,120 and keep you happy. You don't have to go outside of 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,240 that if you don't want to. But anyway, having said all 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,000 that, I've only played the fleets in the main set and I 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,400 think my favorite has got to be the elves. 53 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:58,480 I'm gonna pick the elves. I think that the elves. 54 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:05,200 Similar to Warhammer Fantasy, they are better than everybody 55 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:11,120 at everything. They're like the elite, They 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,760 excel in movement, they can move better than anyone. 57 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:21,600 They excel in shooting in close combat, well, that's a different 58 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,360 story. They're not. 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,400 They're not happy in the boarding phase. 60 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,040 They would rather be keeping a distance. 61 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,320 And yeah, so just like looking at the the ships that make up 62 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,440 the Elf fleet, there's only three the Elf Hawk ship, the 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Eagle ship, and the Dragon ship. That's the that's the the man of 64 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:53,520 war. And really the Hawk ships are 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,360 the only ships of the line. So you're gonna get a solitary 66 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Dragon ship. You got, you know your Eagle 67 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,640 ships are functioning as independent or not independent. 68 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,960 They're not independents. They're they're they're not in a 69 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,080 a group of three. And the Hawk ships are the only 70 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,160 groups of three that you're gonna get Looking at the Hawk 71 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:23,200 ships, they're unique because they have a unique turning 72 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,640 template. They can turn on a dime. 73 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,480 And the other thing that's unique about well, all of the 74 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,120 elf ships, the fact that they can move twice. 75 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:42,560 So some sailing ships will have, you know, sail rating and then 76 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,240 they get bonuses if they the wind is with them. 77 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,640 They the elves do not get any bonus if the wind is with them, 78 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,600 but they can always move twice. Another thing to point out, all 79 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,120 of the ships are they're all sailing ships. 80 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,120 They're all affected by the wind. 81 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,800 However, I believe that the elves are not hindered by that 82 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,000 because of the fact that they can move twice. 83 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:17,240 So let's say for some reason you begin your turn and the wind is 84 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,680 against you, whether you voluntarily moved into the wind 85 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,600 or the wind changed, and you find yourself with the wind 86 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,880 against you because you can move twice, you can spend your first 87 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,440 move to get out of the wind, to turn out of the wind, and then 88 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,960 move your use your second move to then move normally like a 89 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,840 normal ship would. So really, I don't think there's 90 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:47,040 any circumstances where you have to be hamstrung by the wind like 91 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,360 other sailing ships are, If that if that makes sense. 92 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:56,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The other great thing about Hawk 93 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,280 ships, so while I'm talking about those, the fact that they 94 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:08,120 have two forward firing weapons, I am a fan of forward firing 95 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,480 weapons because you're going in there that direction, you're 96 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,000 shooting in that direction. It's I find forward firing 97 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:23,120 weapons easier to deal with than broadsides and the other of 98 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,000 course big thing that the elves have going for them they they 99 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,520 have a 12 inch range instead of a nine inch range. 100 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,360 The only I don't even consider a downside, but there are no 101 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,920 saving modifiers for short or long. 102 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,040 The downside is you don't get a a save modifier at short range. 103 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:50,120 The upside is you you don't have a negative modifier at long 104 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,560 range, but you don't want to be at long range. 105 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,920 I think with the LS you want to be at that 9 to 12 inch range as 106 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:05,040 much as you can so that you can shoot you know the the enemy 107 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,000 ship and and they they can't shoot back without moving. 108 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,320 Another thing I kind of like about the Hawk ship, even though 109 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,960 they are see How do I explain this? 110 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Most of the ships of the line have some kind of a range of 111 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:32,040 what they can be hit on. It can be like A3456 or A456. 112 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:38,520 In this case it's a 3 three up but they have a four castle or 113 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,480 sorry an aft castle which is like a like like a dummy 114 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,800 location. It's a location. 115 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,800 It doesn't actually have any effect. 116 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,880 If it's hit and and you lose it. As far as your sails go, the 117 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:58,080 first hit has no effect, so you have to get hit twice, but so 118 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,320 that is. A downside is if you get hit 119 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:07,000 that second time and you lose your sails, you are dead in the 120 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,760 water and that's that's definitely a risk that's there. 121 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,560 The fact that they have two weapons and that they're at two 122 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,400 different locations is nice because you have to be hit at 123 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,760 least twice to be able or to, you know, lose your offensive 124 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,040 capability. They only have one crew, so that 125 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:32,159 makes them susceptible to some spells that will do an instant, 126 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,919 you know, like an automatic crew wound. 127 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,320 Same way with the below the water line, you only have one 128 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,120 point of that. So they're susceptible to 129 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,240 certain spells in that regard. But yeah I classify the the Hawk 130 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,760 ship as like a glass cannon. It's really gonna pack some 131 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:56,080 punch. But if it gets hit too many 132 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,640 times or you know in one of those, you know, crew below the 133 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:09,160 water line, it it's done Eagleship that's has, you know 134 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,000 all the all the the benefits that I mentioned with the 135 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,600 movement, it's got some broadsides, it's got some 136 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,600 forward firing. I think it's just a good all 137 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,120 around ship only has three crews. 138 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,120 You're probably not going to want to get into any kind of 139 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,080 boarding. Both of these ships are they're 140 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,920 like hit and run and I like that 'cause I'm I like playing games 141 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,840 where movement and maneuvering is important. 142 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:40,120 I don't like playing armies that just want to go full on to the 143 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,040 to the enemy. I like to kind of dance around a 144 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:49,920 little bit the the oh, I'm sorry, I just I I'm sorry I was 145 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,640 looking at the wrong thing as far as the shooting goes for the 146 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,520 eagle ship. It has three broadside, 3 147 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,720 broadside eagle claws. Now I I didn't mention before 148 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,000 these eagle claws, 12 inch range, but they cannot repel 149 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,400 borders. That's fine. 150 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,880 You don't want to be you getting boarded anyway, so it's no big 151 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,680 deal. So the fact that they have three 152 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:21,840 like 3 concentrated shots in one in one arc, that's I that's 153 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,440 really good. Moving twice, they can really do 154 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,120 that. Hit and run. 155 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:31,720 If you can move, get in between two ships, fire six shots both 156 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,440 sides and then move again to get out of the way, that's amazing. 157 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:41,080 OK, it's the Dragon ship that has two forward firing and one 158 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,320 broadside on either side, The thing that makes the Dragon ship 159 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,640 unique, It has five crew, which means it's definitely potential 160 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,080 for boarding. And it's got this weird 161 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,640 Dragonblade ram. And I kind of have mixed 162 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:05,360 feelings about it because it's not a ram in the sense that 163 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,320 you're moving, you come in contact and then you go right to 164 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:17,960 the, you know, right to the like ram phase. 165 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,160 It's not, it's not a term I'm gonna say, it's a fav term. 166 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,760 You know, ramming and then boarding. 167 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Instead, the dragon blades function as part of the 168 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,480 movement. So if you during your movement 169 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:36,320 come in contact with the ship you like, pause, check for below 170 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,520 the waterline. Save, deal damage, and if you're 171 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,960 able to sink the ship in, in the course of that you can continue 172 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,520 on with your movement and, you know, plow through into another 173 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,800 one. It is, it sounds awesome, but 174 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,240 it's like super risky because if you don't sink that ship then 175 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,080 you're like stuck. You're impaled on that ship and 176 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,920 then you know you better hope that you're going to win the 177 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,720 boarding action, which with five crew, it's, you know, decent 178 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,680 odds if you're going against the smaller ship. 179 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:16,080 But then you have to waste a turn, like scuttling that ship 180 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,480 at the end. You know, to to try to, like, 181 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,960 get it out of the way, 'cause it's not like, you know, other 182 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,880 other ramming actions where you know, you just kind of hit it 183 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,200 and then you can skirt along the side to get away from here, like 184 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,480 literally impaled on it. But if you can pull it off and 185 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,680 sink a ship, it's it's really awesome. 186 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,840 Josh, didn't we play once Elf versus Bretonians and I think in 187 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:49,720 one in one move, could I not sink two ships and maybe hit 188 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,160 into a third or something like that? 189 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,840 It was really nice. Do you remember that? 190 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,600 I think I I think I remember it in one of our remote games. 191 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,960 Yeah, I think, I I think it was the first time I ever took I 192 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,680 ever took Bretonians as a fleet. Yeah. 193 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,000 Yeah. And yeah, I know that you 194 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,120 completely destroyed me in the end. 195 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,240 So. But I think it was it was might 196 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,680 have been because of the Dragon Blade and it could have been 197 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:18,320 because of the broadsides on the Eagle ship. 198 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,080 I think you started tearing into me on one flight it. 199 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,800 Was it was the fact that I hit a bratonium buck in the air and 200 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,640 they only have one below the waterline damage, so anything's 201 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,840 going to sink them and they only have a 5 up below the waterline 202 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,360 saved. So it was a juicy target and 203 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,160 that would work. I wouldn't want to do. 204 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,080 I wouldn't want to try using dragon blades against dwarves 205 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,280 because it's that's just going to not end well. 206 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,520 Oh well, but saying that, there was a famous game we had with 207 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Max, and if Max listens to this, he'll know exactly what I'm 208 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,480 talking about. He was kind enough to come up to 209 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,880 my place to play Man of War and we'll we actually recorded it, 210 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,080 but unfortunately I lost all the footage out of us, just just 211 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,640 stupidly deleting it without realizing it. 212 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,800 But I took elves and he took his dwarf. 213 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:12,640 He had his own dwarf fleet and I rammed his ironclad with the 214 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,680 with the dragon ship with the Dragon Blade and took it out in 215 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:19,760 one hit. So that's how devastating it was 216 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,880 against that dwarf. He was unlucky with his roles 217 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:27,720 and I was lucky getting a six and sinking it and one shot but 218 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,560 yeah that you know the potentially very dangerous and 219 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,400 you know they have very you know because you see you've got 5 220 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:39,040 crew plus if you equip with with one of the war dancer a cruise 221 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,080 on there you can re roll your boarding roll dice which is just 222 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:48,160 insane So yeah it's amazing and the fact that that. 223 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,520 Dragon that Dragon Blade, that Dragon Blade Ram is rule of 224 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,360 cool, I think. I feel like you got it. 225 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,000 You got to try and use it. Oh. 226 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,040 Yeah, it's spectacular back results because if you, if you 227 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,520 do manage to slice through a ship and sink it, you can just 228 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,920 keep going. So that's that's a that's a 229 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,360 wonderful thing. So I can just go straight 230 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,760 through the debris and just go out through the other side. 231 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,200 So yeah. One other thing I just realized 232 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,640 about the Dragon Blade that makes it unique is with the 233 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,560 Dragon Blade you can move through wreckage at no cost to 234 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,400 your movement. So. 235 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,960 That's almost like you can, you know, normally a wreckage or 236 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,480 debris is like a it's almost like a piece of terrain, you 237 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,880 know. It blocks line of sight and it 238 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:46,120 blocks movement so you can like for you it's it's not that you 239 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,040 can, you know you can pass through it and take that to your 240 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,720 advantage. I never realized that until I've 241 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,720 read it just now. Yep. 242 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,520 So it's slices and then just go straight through it. 243 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,600 So yeah, it's a really potential devastating blow if it does get 244 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,920 into contact because it can move twice as well. 245 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,680 It's really, really nasty. But the other ships can't ram. 246 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,840 So your Eagle ships and your Hawk ships cannot ram other 247 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,640 ships, which is good. They shouldn't be able to 248 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,760 because they can move twice and and shoot shoot in their face. 249 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,800 So that makes them very powerful and very, very maneuverable. 250 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,760 All right. OK, Well, Chris. 251 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Yeah, Good mate. I'm yeah, really glad you you 252 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,960 chose elves. I think it's a good pick and 253 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,040 we'll have to line up your Elves against the Bretonians again at 254 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,400 once at some stage in a remote game to have a rematch, I think. 255 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,680 OK, Cameron, how about you? And what did you choose? 256 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Yeah, I I just wanted to say what Chris was saying about the 257 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,960 ships. The elf ships being able to move 258 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,840 forward is definitely a big advantage. 259 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,800 Just what makes the Imperial Wolf ship such a good such a 260 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,440 good ship because I mean they got 3 cannons fire for it. 261 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,640 Anything that fire that you can fire as you approach your enemy 262 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:11,880 is is pretty big advantage. So I get that my my favorite 263 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:17,800 fleet is the Orcs and that's because I think, I think it's 264 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,720 because yeah they're probably the worst fleet in the in the 265 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,760 game. But when I first discovered Man 266 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,040 of War in the local game shop, the I remember seeing the box 267 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,040 set of Drilla Killers and the Hulks and I was just like 268 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,400 instantly I was like knew that I had to get that game, had to get 269 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,960 into that game. And so that's why I still love 270 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,120 playing the Orcs and I I don't and I think you know most of us 271 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:47,840 are all not super competitive. So as long as I'm having fun, 272 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,000 you know, I don't mind no not winning the game or whatever. 273 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,600 I still pull off a win every once in a while, not very often, 274 00:17:53,640 --> 00:18:00,240 but that I would say. After the Orcs though, my 275 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,320 favorite fleet is probably the Dark Elves, and they were not a 276 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,240 fleet that I liked when I initially started playing the 277 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,200 game, but I had so much fun painting them that I like 278 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,440 putting them on the board. I think they just they look 279 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,400 cool. They're they're very different 280 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,480 from the other fleets because they're using monsters and I 281 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,880 know they they the the Black Ark is a very tanky ship. 282 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,160 But the rest of their rest of their ships in the Dark Health 283 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:31,080 fleet are glass cannons as well, similar to the some of the High 284 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,720 Elf ships. Both the Death Fortresses and 285 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,280 the Doom Reapers have a hit location that if you damage it, 286 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,680 they're gone. They're immediately removed from 287 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,400 the game, so, but the Black arc is usually what can swing the 288 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,640 game into the Dark Elves favor. But yeah, the the orcs on my 289 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Orcs of my favorite, they were the first fleet that I painted 290 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,920 and the first fleet I I fielded. I suffered a a devastating loss 291 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,040 to some High Elves back in the 90s that I still remember to 292 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,120 this day. But yeah, still like them. 293 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,520 I haven't, I haven't actually seen you guys play high elves in 294 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,040 any of the remote games or I can't. 295 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,400 I I can't remember it. Did you do a battle report, Josh 296 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,520 with the High Elves? I'm sure we did, mate. 297 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,120 Yeah, I think. I'm pretty sure Paul took the 298 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:23,520 High Elves in that one. Yeah, I should go back and and 299 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,680 find that one or watch your games. 300 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,200 That's. It's been a long time since I've 301 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:32,400 since I've played them and it's the only fleet. 302 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Even though Man of War is the pretty much the main game that I 303 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,960 play nowadays, I haven't finished painting all of my 304 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,360 fleets and high elves are the only fleet from the base game, 305 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:47,200 but I haven't finished painting so I need to get them painted 306 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,600 up. But yeah, they were not they 307 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,000 were not my favorite fleet cause for that beating. 308 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,520 I took from them well when I was playing Orcs that one time and I 309 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,200 guess that's why I've put them on the back shelf for so long. 310 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,560 They I think the aisles would probably be a pretty good fleet 311 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:11,640 to field a Chaos fleet Slenesh against a Slenesh Plague fleet 312 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,680 against because the the Slenesh fleet has those hell slicers 313 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,920 and. Those ships are pretty much 314 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,920 useless against a lot of different ships in the game. 315 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,000 Like you can't. I don't think you can even use 316 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,000 those against dwarf monitors, because the health slicer only 317 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:33,560 only hits, it only hits high locations. 318 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,920 So it's great to use against Plutonians or or high elves or 319 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,480 great ships or something like that with sails. 320 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,280 And it'd be especially good against the High Elves, since 321 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,200 they move by sail only. Yeah, that's a good point. 322 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,480 The the Slynes ships, we're talking about the Plague Fleet 323 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,240 expansion that came after the main box of Man of War, which 324 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,680 brings the forces of Chaos to the the old world with Scaven, 325 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,200 Chaos Dwarves and then the Plague fleet and all the four 326 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,520 different gods. You can play them within theme 327 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,440 or just play a sort of generic play fleet and in that they had 328 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,640 these wonderful looking, beautiful looking design ships 329 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,480 for Slanache, but they're absolutely, they're pretty 330 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,440 ordinary compared to Corn and Apple and to Zinch. 331 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,200 You know they've got really nice special looking and really 332 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,160 attractive looking ships too, but they have really interesting 333 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,240 effects and and how they play in the game. 334 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,360 So some really interesting choices. 335 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:35,840 I'm really surprised you chose Orcs, actually Camerons, but I 336 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,520 actually got to play Orcs with you for the very first time 337 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,800 because I really wanted to try them out. 338 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,600 So I just remember that one Driller Killer of mine who 339 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,960 survived just racing around the, yeah, the ocean there and trying 340 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,520 to trade. I think it was trying to catch 341 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,600 one of your I think there's empire ships you're playing I 342 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,640 think might have been one of a wolf ship or something like that 343 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,320 who had the treasure or something. 344 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,480 I think that's what we. Played. 345 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,840 I think we're, I think we're playing plutoniums. 346 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,680 You came in on the rear, yeah, yeah, you came in on the rear. 347 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,280 I had a treasure on a course there and you swung the drill 348 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,480 kill all the way around and came into the rear where he's got no 349 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,640 cannons. So yeah, it works pretty good. 350 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:17,520 Yeah, because I think they move. They move on a 2D6 or 3D six or 351 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,160 something like that, I think from memory. 352 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Yeah, 3D6. So yeah, it's really 353 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,280 interesting. So yeah, I I I yeah, for the 354 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,880 time I played the Orcs, I enjoyed them. 355 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,960 I do have some orc ships that have never fielded here, though, 356 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,640 but I just need to finish, finish off my Driller Killers. 357 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,080 And I've got the Wyvern Rider, so I've got that to add to the 358 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,440 fleet. And I might add some Norse ships 359 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,640 or something like that, just to bolster up the points because 360 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,920 they are quite cheap. Because the big chuckers are 361 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,800 absolutely useless, because they can't move and shoot and they 362 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,720 have to have line of sight to their enemy ship to shoot at it. 363 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,320 So they're just like at this, you know, instant, sort of. 364 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,160 OK, just Chuck them in front because they're gonna get shot 365 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,360 to pieces and then we'll follow up with the Drilla killers and 366 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:03,960 our hulks. The hulks are fantastic. 367 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,240 I think they're brilliant. Yeah. 368 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,880 Yeah. Yeah, there's a There's 369 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,520 something else Chris didn't mention about the IELTS. 370 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,880 They've got one of the most powerful Flyers in the whole 371 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,960 game. It's. 372 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,040 The. Right. 373 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,720 Yeah, yeah. Those are great setting, setting 374 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,880 ships on fire like nobody's business. 375 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,640 Yeah. So that that come that came in 376 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,040 the Flyers and everything came in as the the Sea of Blood 377 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040 expansion which was the final expansion box set that came out 378 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,960 for Matter War. So that yeah, introduced the 379 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,720 Flyers. It introduced monsters to the 380 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,880 game. We haven't really discussed 381 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,560 those. We should really do like a Sea 382 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,080 of Blood kind of show. I think it, I think it deserves 383 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,480 an entire show plus play flake, we haven't really covered that 384 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,280 either because they're they're both excellent expansions. 385 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,200 They changed the game quite dramatically in some some 386 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,800 respects. I think they try to break the 387 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,160 game in some respects. I think Chris just playing 388 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,240 out-of-the-box, the the original box is a really good way to go 389 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,320 because I find that all the fleets are really well balanced. 390 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,640 They all have their unique racial traits inbuilt into the 391 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,720 fleets. The other expansions do that as 392 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,480 well. And Chaos is a really 393 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,680 flavoursome fleet and I really love playing Chaos. 394 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,960 I almost chose it as my favorite fleet, but I'm going to go with 395 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,360 my dwarves because that were the first things I latched my eyes 396 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:31,280 onto in that I actually bought a painted fleet from Richard 397 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,080 Gunson, my store manager in the UK at the time when I was 398 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,480 working there and I played it on the floor of of the the room I 399 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,720 was staying in. I was renting a room from a guy 400 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,760 who was a customer at the store there at the Oxford Plaza and I 401 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,880 had to move out of my then accommodations and then he 402 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,440 allowed me to stay with him and then he showed me how to play 403 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,880 Man of War and I and I play with that fleet for the only one time 404 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,040 in the 90s and then later sold it before I came back to 405 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Australia. So yeah, they're my sort of love 406 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,680 I think first love and yeah, I think they they work very 407 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,000 differently from any other fleet. 408 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,000 They're just like dwarves. They're fully encased within 409 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:19,240 these steam powered engines, vessels which are impenetrable. 410 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,960 So if you if you want to board them, you can't unless they take 411 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,400 damage, which is great. They've got a lot of turrets on 412 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,000 them, which means they can swivel around. 413 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Because the general firing procedure for ships with cannons 414 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,560 on their broadsides or front and rears of the ships, you got to 415 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,200 place a template template directly in the direction 416 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,200 they're facing. But with dwarves they have a lot 417 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,600 of ships with like the monitors and the naughty lists have. 418 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,600 And the dreadnoughts and the ironclads have turrets, which 419 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,000 means you can fire in three, sometimes mostly in 360°, 420 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,080 especially for the naughty lists, for example, And the 421 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,680 monitors is a good example for that. 422 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,640 The Dreadnought which was released as part of the Sea of 423 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Blood expansion that is now your main Manor warship. 424 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,000 You've got the one of you have to take one of those before in 425 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,240 the base set. It's it's the ironclad that was 426 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,120 your main metal war which is an excellent ship. 427 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:17,920 I've you know I love taking those as independence and the 428 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,360 Dreadnought is just the name says it all. 429 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,560 I mean you know it's everything that's on the box. 430 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,080 It's a big big bloody ship it you know it takes loads of 431 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,480 damage. I has four crew sadly I wish I 432 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,040 had five like the Hulk the Hulk. Hulk got 5 crew, I don't know 433 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,080 why we got we've got four. We don't have any special crew 434 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320 we can take unfortunately. So we just got our dwarf 435 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,480 sailors. But what the dwarves do have, 436 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,000 which I really love, they have engineers and and there's an 437 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,480 engineer in every single ship. So when you take damage in the 438 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,720 game in Man of War, the engineer can scuttle around and try to 439 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,280 fix it in the end phase. And you roll the dice. 440 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,520 And if you roll A5 or six you you, you can choose one location 441 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,360 that can repair that one location, which is a completely 442 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,520 unique thing because no other fleet has it unless you have a 443 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,640 spell and a magician that can allow you to do that in the 444 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,960 game. So that's really cool. 445 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,960 And they've got a rune Smith, so they can't use magic, but they 446 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,040 at least get that sort of instant to spell because magic 447 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,320 works very differently than, you know regular Warhammer. 448 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,920 So you don't have to spell cards as such. 449 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,440 You have magic cards, which can counter certain types of College 450 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,480 of magic, but usually if you don't have that, you've got no 451 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,640 way of stopping it. So the dwarves have a natural 452 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:35,480 the spell of six on AD 6, which is very handy, and they move 453 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,400 under steam so they don't care about the wind. 454 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,120 I don't care if the wind's facing towards me or, you know, 455 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,520 directly into my ships. We don't care. 456 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,720 We just keep, you know, steaming and sailing straight through it. 457 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,480 We can spit on the spot, we can turn 90 for half, 180 for four. 458 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,280 We can move backwards. We can ram a lot of these ships 459 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,320 apart from the from the little naughtless and talk about the 460 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,640 Nautilus. It's one of the coolest things 461 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,200 about the entire thing about Man of War because it can actually 462 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,160 dive like a submarine. It can fully submerge 463 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,840 underwater. It can go, you know, totally 464 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,880 silent like in this you know like I don't know what do you 465 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,480 call it like like sort of I don't know Seafarer espionage 466 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,000 and then release its torpedo and then the that's the coolest 467 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,400 thing because it's got a separate template. 468 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,400 You got to roll the dice and see which direction that that just 469 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,880 Pete till Peter goes. I don't know why it just can't 470 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,840 fire the way you want it to but you got to you got to it's all 471 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000 random. And that's the thing about Man 472 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,960 of War. It's a very random game. 473 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,560 So if you let random fun and like Cameron said, if you're not 474 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,840 in a competitive mindset you're going to love Man of War for 475 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,760 what it is. Would you guys agree? 476 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,440 Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. 477 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,600 Dwarfs are a fine fleet. I usually I I often say that I 478 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,520 think the Dwarfs in the Empire are probably the two best fleets 479 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,520 in the game just because of how, because of their utility they've 480 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,000 got so many options in terms of their movement and firing. 481 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,680 I I I'd say that maybe maybe Nergal might be the most 482 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,400 powerful fleet in the game but yeah or the hardest to beat 483 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,200 fleet in the game. But Empire and Dwarfs, Those are 484 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,800 both both fire and fleets. Yeah, especially I I play a lot 485 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,920 of remote games with Marcel in Germany there when he played 486 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,880 Nergal as a fleet and I played the Empire and I loved Empire 487 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,760 because of the wolf ships. The wolf ships are just like the 488 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,760 the best and that that's why it was difficult choice for me 489 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,960 either Dwarves, Chaos or Empire because they're they're sort of 490 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280 my go TOS whenever I get to play man of War. 491 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,080 And the wolf ships are just devastating, you know once 492 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,640 you've got like potentially nine shots raining down you from 493 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,560 those three ships, my goodness, they just tell you to pieces. 494 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,680 Nergal's a really interesting one as well especially that 495 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,800 Nergal's rock counter you put on the crew and you can really ruin 496 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,680 someone's day with that just you know constantly being there and 497 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,120 killing off your crew 1 by 1. So that's really interesting as 498 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,600 well. So yeah, each fleet has 499 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200 something really cool about it and we should go and cover more 500 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,600 of the fleets, maybe more detail in future episodes. 501 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,320 So that's really good. I think we're going to take a 502 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,440 quick break guys now and then when we come back, we're going 503 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,680 to talk about the remote games you guys been playing on a 504 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,840 Discord and hopefully encourage more people to come and give it 505 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,920 a go. So we'll come back in just a 506 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:41,600 moment. All right. 507 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,880 OK. So welcome back, guys. 508 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,680 So now we can talk a little bit about the remote games you guys 509 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,000 have been playing on the Discord And have you been playing any 510 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,400 games recently, Chris? Have you been playing any games 511 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,480 recently? Oh my gosh, I did. 512 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360 And I can't remember, played me who I played with. 513 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,280 Or did I play you with you? That's right. 514 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,360 It was you. Yeah, I played Bretonians 515 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,800 because I'm still trying to figure out how to play them. 516 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,040 Yeah. And you played the Dwarves, of 517 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,200 course. Oh, and we played the Treasure 518 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Fleet scenario. That's right. 519 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:27,520 And I somehow won. Yeah 'cause I I think. 520 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,240 I won yeah, 'cause you Yeah, I yeah, I. 521 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:36,360 You had your treasure chests on your the smallest ships in the 522 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,600 fleet. I forget what they're called 523 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,800 now. They're Buccaneers. 524 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,360 Buccaneers. That's right. 525 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:46,320 And I stupidly didn't put enough ships on that flank to screen. 526 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,360 That and I just ran. And then at some point I 527 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,160 thought, oh, it'd be OK because I I took out two of your two of 528 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,520 your ships already on that, on that flank with the naughtless 529 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,880 and the ironclad moving up there. 530 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,320 And I thought, OK, I've got it covered. 531 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,600 But then yeah, it that's the beauty of man of war. 532 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,040 Things change. And when you oh, my luck's down, 533 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,400 I I, you know, I think, I think your luck was not that good or 534 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,040 something or whatever. You made a lot of saving throws 535 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,840 or something. Like I made it. 536 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,880 Incredible. Every single time I shot you and 537 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,040 you made that saving throw, it was. 538 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,320 I don't think I took a single bit of damage on any of those 539 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,600 corsairs, which is bad because they hit all over the place. 540 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,320 Yeah, the the corsets were just just just ran through the other 541 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,360 flank. They just, yeah, they just 542 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,320 steamrolled everything. So it was luck, Bit of bad luck 543 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,040 on my part maybe, you know, and and good luck on my part as well 544 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,720 in some cases. So it was really fun. 545 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,480 It sort of swung back and forth, back and forth, and then managed 546 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,080 to get that little Buccaneer off my table edge and get you the 547 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,960 extra points. Now I do have a little addendum 548 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,040 to that that battle report and not that I don't want to go off 549 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:04,880 the topic but Cam, have you or or have you heard any Arata in 550 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,480 the game regarding the dwarf monitor? 551 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,960 Because I've been noticing so you know there's every ship has 552 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,640 a battle honor associated with it. 553 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,160 So if you sink, you know, or or or Scott. 554 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,600 Oh. Yeah, I know what you're talking 555 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,880 about. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're 556 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,920 talking. About so the the battle honors 557 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:34,000 are typically it's one point for every 25 points that the ship is 558 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,920 worth. So like a squadron of ships of 559 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,400 the line that cost 150, that's fifty points per ship. 560 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,760 That means that it should be worth 2 battle honors. 561 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,160 But for some reason the Dwarf monitors are worth 3 battle 562 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,600 honors, and I don't know if that's a typo or what. 563 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,760 It's the it's the only ship that's like that that I've come 564 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,160 across, and I don't know if that's intentional or if that's, 565 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,440 but anyway, if it is supposed to be two, that game would have 566 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,600 been closer than, right, you know, than it came out to be so. 567 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,520 Definitely a typo then, that's for sure, yeah. 568 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,480 I'm gonna write. I'm gonna write a mine right 569 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,679 away. I'm gonna write a two on there, 570 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,960 not a three on a crossing or A2. Easy fixed. 571 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,719 I'll have to look into the the esoteric order of gamers like 572 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,120 their sheets and see if if it's a two or a three on that. 573 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480 I'm just just throwing that out there, OK? 574 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,080 I'm sorry. Contact Games Workshop. 575 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,040 You send them a letter. Eastwood, right? 576 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,639 Yeah, there's a. Andy Jones. 577 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,000 They answered some some measure of this question in one of the 578 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,560 Q. And as they were, somebody 579 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:49,400 asked, yeah, somebody, somebody wrote in and asked because they 580 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,280 had noticed that the battle honors were different than the 581 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,199 points system that you're talking about. 582 00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,760 And if I if I remember correctly, in the Q&A they say 583 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,480 to go by the listed battle honors, not by the points that 584 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560 you just couldn't. You could just use the points if 585 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,240 you didn't know what the battle honors. 586 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,840 Right. But that was like a backup 587 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,240 backup way of determining your battle honors, basically. 588 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:19,480 OK, but yeah, I'll I'll find it and put it up in the put it up 589 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,200 in the discord. Yeah, that's good mate. 590 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,120 That's that's great. You you mentioned that and 591 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,440 brought that up because now every Dwarf player has that 592 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,040 assurance now that their monitors are worth 2 battlers, 593 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,720 not three. So that's a good point. 594 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,200 That's a good point about you just go by the points, not by 595 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,920 what it says on the card, because sometimes that can be a 596 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,760 mistake. And as Chris has pointed out, 597 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,800 all right, so OK, so you had a game against me now that was 598 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,240 dwarves against the Bretonians and with Treasure Fleet. 599 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,040 Any other games at all, mate before that can you remember? 600 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,400 Oh, I played a punch. No, Incredibly recently I I feel 601 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:03,760 like I kind of have the it's a, it's a a mixed bag really. 602 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:10,000 It's good because I get to often play with newcomers, people who 603 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:14,200 are interested in learning how to play the game and I like 604 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,240 that. I mean I have a lot of fun, you 605 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,200 know, teaching the game and introducing it to people. 606 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,480 The the downside is I feel like I've played like a vanilla game 607 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,120 so many times and the game that you and I played that, you know, 608 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:36,000 the treasure fleet was maybe one of the only or or few scenarios 609 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,720 that I've played in recent memories. 610 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,280 So it's nice. I really like playing the 611 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,440 scenarios and as much as I like, you know, playing a vanilla game 612 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,920 with new people, I really like to try diving in more to 613 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,760 scenarios and even maybe coming up with my own scenario because 614 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,880 I think that would be a lot of fun. 615 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,200 Yeah, why not? Although I did play, one of the 616 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,760 scenarios I remember I did play was the Is it the Treasure 617 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,440 Island? Is that what it's called? 618 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,000 Where you? Yeah. 619 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,680 Well, Barry Gold, I think Barry Gold is what it's called. 620 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,040 Yeah, that's really interesting too, because you, you, you know, 621 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,600 land one of your ships on the island, unload some crew. 622 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,720 That's right. And depending on what fleet 623 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,960 you're running, I mean, that can make a huge difference. 624 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:35,640 I think I played that with some Dark Elves, which was I think 625 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:40,880 perfect because and the only fleet, the only ship that has 626 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,280 crew in that case is the Black. Ark, I was gonna say, and just 627 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,200 don't have any crew. No, no. 628 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,240 So it could just, you know, move up to the island and dump off 629 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:55,160 some crew and and it's a pretty defensive ship, so it might have 630 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,000 to worry about, you know, but like if I were playing something 631 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,880 like the elves for example, those hawk ships only have one 632 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,640 crew. So, you know, that would be 633 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,720 pretty dangerous to do. But yeah, I like I did like that 634 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,720 that scenario a lot too, yes. That's probably that's that's my 635 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,280 favorite scenario. The baseball. 636 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,720 Yeah. Yeah. 637 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,160 Yeah, there are some other ones where you have to, you start off 638 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,520 with half the points of the other fleet, like there's a kind 639 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,040 of like a, you know, imbalanced thing, but you know you're 640 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600 defending or you know, you're attacking or something like 641 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,600 that. And certain scenarios. 642 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,080 I've never played those. I've only played the treasure 643 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,160 hunt, the I think the 1st 2 ones, where one's kind of like 644 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:44,680 you're sort of after a a storm. After the storm. 645 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,840 I think it's called where your ships are displaced and your 646 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,200 opponent gets to place them in your deployment zone in any 647 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,200 direction. And the other one where you have 648 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,280 all the terrain pieces. I think you'd have at least 649 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,920 three in each sector or each quadrant or 4 or whatever. 650 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,920 That's quite cool as well. So yeah, I mean there's there's 651 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,040 lots of good scenarios in there and also with the play fleet you 652 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,880 come they've got actual special chaos terrain. 653 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,360 Yeah that can actually affect the the seascape. 654 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,600 So that I think there's one that me and Paul played was like the 655 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,760 sea of chaos and you enter and you got to roll a dice to see 656 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,680 what happens to your to your crew and and that kind of thing 657 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,920 to your ship. I think he, I think maybe he by 658 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,240 Magic, he managed to pull me into there and I had to roll to 659 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,400 see what happened and that was really cool too. 660 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,760 So yeah, it's got lots of potential in there and we 661 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,960 haven't, you know, even though we've been playing for quite a 662 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,080 while, we haven't explored everything about Man of War, 663 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,560 which is really nice. Yeah, there's 66 scenarios in 664 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,200 the base Game, 6 scenarios in Plague Fleet. 665 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,960 That's right, Yep, exactly. And I should mention too, just 666 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,400 before we go on the camera and ask him about his remote games, 667 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,760 you both have been on Matthew's Bedroom Battlefields podcasts 668 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,120 talking to him about Man of War and about remote gaming. 669 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,960 So just a shout out to him and his podcast for people to go and 670 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,960 listen to those if they haven't listened to them yet. 671 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,080 And yeah, you guys talk in detail about that with Matthew, 672 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,360 which is they've been really enjoyable to listen to. 673 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,480 But Cameron, have you been playing any remote games 674 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,880 recently mate? The the last game I played was 675 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,280 with Mark from Bedroom Battlefield as he's real active 676 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,160 over there on that Discord. I think it was his first game in 677 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,200 a while but he's he was, he's played it before and he was 678 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,120 super quick on pulling up or or remembering the rules and so it 679 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,320 wasn't really like playing with. I didn't have, I didn't do much 680 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,080 teaching with him. It was he was he was on top of 681 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,000 the rules right away. I think he must have studied up 682 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,880 or something, I don't know. But he was definitely all over 683 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,240 it. And we played Bertoni, he played 684 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,520 Bertonians, I played the Orcs and it was just a straight up 685 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,800 game. And I get what Chris is saying 686 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,880 about playing those, those straight up battle games where 687 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,520 there's no scenario after a while it's, you know, you, you 688 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,680 kind of want to play a scenario for a for for a change. 689 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,680 It's just I think some of the scenarios are better suited if 690 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,560 you have a player that is trying to learn the rules as opposed to 691 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,520 others. Like the Treasure Fleet scenario 692 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,360 is a pretty good one. I think if you got somebody 693 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,920 that's a beginner and still needs to you know be taught some 694 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,280 of the rules I think that's a a doable scenario and so is 695 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,280 probably after the storm. But like the scenario I I don't 696 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,560 think I would try Barry Gold with somebody that was first. 697 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,160 It was like their first experience with the game and I 698 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:47,280 would try the sore Fort scenario that's a that's a those those 699 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,800 sore forks are are are. I think if I'm not mistaken that 700 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,840 the one of the objectives in that game is to destroy the 701 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,680 Shoreport. Now that thing is bloody 702 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,360 impossible to to damage. It's just crazy. 703 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,600 Yeah, it it has a three up save, so it's. 704 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,400 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did it once with Paul 705 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,120 again. I played against his cast dwarf 706 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,720 fleet. Against my Dwarf fleet, Well, I 707 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,720 never got to see his shore Fort. I mean he he obliterated me 708 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,480 before I even got anywhere close to it. 709 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,200 So with this Chaos War fleet, which is another topic for 710 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,800 another day, I think if you've ever faced a Chaos War Fleet 711 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,240 you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. 712 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:28,520 But they're quite unique in in how they play as well, with 713 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,040 their barrage template, weapons and that kind of thing. 714 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,960 Briscoe got to find out all about them today, didn't you 715 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,360 mate? When you open up your box, set. 716 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,240 Yeah, it's the first time I looked at them. 717 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,040 Can you believe that? I've had this game how long? 718 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,680 And I'm for the first time I'm looking at Chaos Wars, yeah. 719 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,920 Yeah, yes, they're really cool as well. 720 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,800 So there's everything. Yeah, you you cater for 721 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,760 everything in the game. And also there's something we 722 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,680 haven't really touched on is campaigns. 723 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,360 Now there are campaign rules in the base set which allow your 724 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,800 crews to gain experience over time, having survived linked 725 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,240 battles. So for example, if you know and 726 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,440 me and Paul have been playing those and we've done so, we've 727 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,560 done some of those for the our channel Chronicam and games 728 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:16,200 where we played a few games as campaigns and we've got a 729 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,640 record. You've got a record sheet that's 730 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,360 on the back of the rulebook, you've you just photocopy that 731 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,280 and you can write all your details of your ships. 732 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:27,200 And then as you survive each game and accrue battle honors, 733 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,680 you can assign that to upgrading your cruise to like veteran 734 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,720 status. And above that so that I think 735 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:35,600 there's about four or five different levels they can go up 736 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,360 to and the further you go up and experience the better they are 737 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,680 at shooting or they can shoot twice and things like that So 738 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,400 and but if you if you lose your ship and your crew during the 739 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,400 game it's gone their you know their experience is lost and the 740 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,520 sailors drown but so there is campaigns there is a there's a 741 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,160 nice little you know a way another way you can play man of 742 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:06,040 war and have linked games using the scenarios as well or the 743 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,920 ones you create yourself So it does have a bit of longevity to 744 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,120 it you know it's not just a stand alone game. 745 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,720 Have you guys experienced campaigns at all, Cameron? 746 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,000 I I played we played a a campaign once back in the 90s. 747 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,000 I haven't played them since, but we did. 748 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,520 We did notice that you know that a lot of the games are are 749 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,000 pretty bloody. You lose a lot of shits during 750 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,240 the game, so it's pretty difficult to build up a a 751 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:40,480 seasoned crew and it's really just a it happens over the 752 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,200 course of our campaign, but it's mostly just a matter of luck. 753 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,240 Like what what ship is going to is going to be lucky enough to 754 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:50,680 not not get sunk or or destroyed or abandoned or whatever. 755 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:58,080 And it does, it does add a little bit more fear I guess in 756 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,000 the Admirals, in terms of trying to keep your ship safe, you're 757 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,040 you're, you're probably a little bit more likely to withdraw in a 758 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,600 campaign game if you think you can get away and keep your ships 759 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,400 alive to, you know, to advance those those crews a little bit 760 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,200 further. I think there's a very special 761 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,680 quote in here about that about fleeing in during a campaign. 762 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,520 It's very quiet. It sounds like something that 763 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,840 Nigel Stillman wrote or something. 764 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,560 I'd say. Where was it? 765 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,440 Again, I'll just try to find it, but it says. 766 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:30,040 Something. It sounds. 767 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,800 Like somebody floated the idea of doing this. 768 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,280 Yeah, any any player who sells his fleet directly off the table 769 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,440 without firing a shot and no intention of fighting the enemy 770 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,480 or achieving the scenario objective is obviously a is a 771 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,800 Lily livid coward. There you go. 772 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,320 So yeah, it it has a rule in built in the game that if you do 773 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,920 that then you know you're going to suffer some consequences for 774 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,640 just, you know, you know, scampering off and not fighting 775 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200 the game, which is really cool. Obviously it has been done 776 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,760 before when they play tested in the studio when they were 777 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,600 developing the game maybe. So yeah, it's a really good 778 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,600 game. I'm really glad we've discovered 779 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,400 it and you know, either from the 90s or recently and we're 780 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,440 playing it, we were throwing the idea about doing an online 781 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,320 campaign. I think we should really start 782 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,920 thinking about doing that because it's a, it's a case of 783 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,840 we don't really get a chance to play Man of War all the time. 784 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,440 We're doing it on Discord anyway. 785 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,800 We should just make it a campaign so that we can, we have 786 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,760 enough fleets amongst us all that we could do that easily. 787 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,200 And yeah, we should definitely get that to the table soon guys. 788 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,720 So I really appreciate you guys coming on and talking to me 789 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,920 about it and I hope we get more people interested in Man of War 790 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,160 and giving it a go. So guys, if they if someone out 791 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,880 there in on the podcast wants to contact you about getting a 792 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,080 demo, how would they do that Chris? 793 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:56,520 I guess just find me on Discord and send me a message and say 794 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,680 when can we play and we'll set something up. 795 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,600 I'm, yeah, readily, readily available. 796 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,040 OK. And Cam, same for you Matt. 797 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,440 They can contact you through Discord then. 798 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,920 Yeah Discord's probably the the easiest if for some book. 799 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,040 If for some reason somebody's listening to this podcast and 800 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,120 doesn't have discord or hasn't you know downloaded it or 801 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,240 whatever, they can find my YouTube channel. 802 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:26,160 Also it's like you mentioned Kraken's Wake and just comment 803 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,440 on in there and I've only got one video up so just comment in 804 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,440 there and I'll get in contact with you or on the the the 805 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,560 Facebook the man of war Facebook page. 806 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,400 Be another good good spot, shout out and yeah, we'll get you a a 807 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,160 remote game in. Excellent. 808 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,320 OK, so I'll leave. I'll leave your Discord 809 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,520 usernames in the show notes for this episode, and of course the 810 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,640 Discord link, so people can go there. 811 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,360 Discord's a great place for doing remote games. 812 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,680 You can watch remote games. You can. 813 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,440 You know you. You're part of a community that 814 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,120 has not just Man of War, but, you know, several other titles 815 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,400 there to engage with other hobbyists with around the world, 816 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,880 which is a really cool place to be. 817 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:12,120 So hopefully you can join us there and yeah, get into 818 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,840 discussions with Man of War and start playing some demo games. 819 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,440 So until then, guys, look thank you very much for coming on. 820 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,560 I appreciate your time today and enjoy your evenings. 821 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,640 Hey, thank you. Yeah. 822 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,200 Thanks man. OK. 823 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,160 Thank you. Bye, bye.