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So today we're gonna put a 
special guests or two guests. 

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Actually, we've got Richard and 
Jazz from the bringing battle 

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war gaming, YouTube channel. 
So guys, thanks very much for 

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joining us. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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You're more than welcome a. 
I don't know why but everybody 

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calls Jason Jazz. 
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hands, I don't know. 
It's Jason may all Jase Jase, 

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right? 
Okay. 

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I thought I thought was Jazz. 
Sorry. 

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Jason. 
Names. 

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I'm just terrible with them 
terrible. 

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Remembering them to relate with 
saying them. 

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It's like I can remember my own 
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Actually probably met Aubrey. 
Forget that at some point or my 

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bad. 
Yeah, of course I call myself 

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Jazz house that has it. 
I'm job. 

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But yeah. 
Thanks for joining us guys. 

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And how you've been having a 
played a big game of 40 case 

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ignition over? 
In the club there, in the 

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clubhouse. 
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it over there now is 10. 
Past 12:00 midnight, right? 

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Okay, so it's yeah, it's getting
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late, but it's it's back to 
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So, yeah. 
But it's not an open E. 

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Yeah, but you can. 
Thank dr. 

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The Viking, for getting you guys
on because he said Josh, you got

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to get these guys on and on the 
podcast and talk to these guys 

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and I said, okay I'll reach out 
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if they if they could, if we can
align the stars and, and get our

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times and all that kind of 
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So please thank the doctor for 
making this happen, right? 

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I'm not going to do the Doctor 
Who Joe 

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he goes by all these kind of 
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Different aliases of names, 
online doctor. 

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He's one of your biggest fans. 
Name is one of your biggest fans

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so see you do different names 
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probably the one that people 
recognize the most cause he does

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the Cowabunga 40K painting 
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It's like third season now, I 
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Yeah, I had a hairy guy with the
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page, that's it. 
Yeah, become a friend. 

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Yeah, right all sides. 
Yeah, he's bloody famous me. 

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You know, it's famous Community.
Like I can take it. 

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You look, you're not really good
at technology but you should 

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know your fans back. 
Come on. 

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Oh yeah. 
People's. 

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Oh yeah. 
He's a he's embracing the second

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portion of what we came here 
from Rome. 

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So you guys do the same because 
you guys produce some really 

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amazing battle courts that I 
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but if they don't, then they 
should go and check you guys out

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because you saying that mate. 
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watched all your second edition 
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good. 
I mean, your terrain is great 

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and I've got to say I'm going to
get it in now. 

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Your aux look amazing. 
Thank you very much, your baboon

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aux with. 
Those Banners are just our 

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manager scream second edition 
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well. 
Thank you very much. 

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For what, that six or seven 
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Quite a long time. 
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months, I think the last time we
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and he said, oh, this is really 
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Yeah, the Goblin King. 
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generous with his time and that 
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communicated with me. 
Anyway, and sent me like tons of

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photos of new stuff that's 
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that. 
It's very kind of him that. 

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Yeah. 
Spoilers on the chat, that 

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things are coming along the 
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It's, they'll be worried excited
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like the 40K Gretchen that I did
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nightmare games, will there be a
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for that? 
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which look really cool and some 
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that kind of thing, as well. 
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And that's really good. 
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to count. 
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not many games. 
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sort of commissioning him to do 
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and fantasy. 
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That means more money. 
My workspace one of work, but 

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there is kickstarter's come out 
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to a year maybe. 
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basically. 
So if you look on Facebook at 

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space, Raiders is Right space. 
Breeders. 

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I'll put links in the show notes
guys that you can go online and 

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check out nightmare games. 
It's a Spanish company. 

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That Diego made a mine runs. 
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I've been sort of, you know, 
promoting his stuff is amazing 

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when we were growing up. 
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was the Golden Oak guy? 
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I really, really tough that he's
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it all. 
He's like what he must be in his

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60s now I think yeah I think 
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because he's doing a lot of 
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think he's getting to the stage 
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going to finish up in a few 
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you know, grab grab the designs 
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Still out doing work because I 
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that could ease. 
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It's provide enough money or 
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He can comfortably retire or 
something so good on if we were 

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lucky enough. 
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event to go to war hammer World.
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And I mean I it was great, we 
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Jazz Goodwin farther. 
The Eldar and I was talking to 

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told him, I still use the 
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was well chuffed with that. 
And I said, I'll better go now 

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because obviously I don't want 
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tell her, I said well no one 
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we we talk for a minute. 
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By the fact that I was still 
those brief anybody? 

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Oh yeah, amazingly friendly guy.
Yeah, really stoked of man. 

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Let's have a good time, yeah. 
That's all right. 

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But guys tell us about 
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Like how did you guys get into 
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kind of thing initially? 
What we like to read your list. 

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Yeah. 
So maybe Jason was like to start

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Jason with how you hey you got a
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I'm going to create my cup of 
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We went round to me a friend's 
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dungeon dragons models. 
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it was like, oh, of course, when
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would radius stash of models, 
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then, as I got older, we just 
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fantasy, roleplay book quality 
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fantasy Army box sets and is 
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fantasy. 
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started dabbling in with bits of
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on and on and on until basic. 
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models. 
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well do, but I got paint ball 
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eight or nine basic around with 
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older brother. 
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playing with them while he 
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going to give us a white cloud 
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But yeah, that's fair but it 
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Workshop and every Thursday 
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Max more people in there. 
That's how I met Rich. 

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That was quite a few years ago. 
Wow. 

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Just go. 
Yeah, let's go. 

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ago we played ever since really.
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that's pretty much it. 
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every Army Under the Sun apart 
from since hell. 

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Yeah. 
That's how I got started. 

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Like the role play Edition, 
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edition then you've got into 
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Rogue Trader. 
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much. 
I paid the second dish in 4k but

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the Warhammer fantasy roleplay 
de basically, a big old butt was

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for hand Warhammer fantasy 
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And then from there they went be
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caught more and more models and 
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version for it. 
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armies and I started with dwarfs
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slowly slowly, I think that 
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And that and I don't know what 
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battle was on the box. 
Sets was plastic elves and 

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plastic goblins I think, oh, 
that was or is it 4th edition? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
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Which basically with that and 
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was just every time they bought 
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got it then, got the original 
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I would like to say both sides 
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I didn't get that one, but I got
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know that was quite popular 
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We are playing that. 
Yeah, it's just got more and 

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bigger and bigger and more and 
more, to be honest. 

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And say, nearly every book set 
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getting it just to get more 
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But yeah, it was some It was a 
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much, it's chill. 
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is it's a bit blurry, especially
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think I'll call you do fantasy 
build your community. 

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What's your fantasy? 
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But what was the last Edition 
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When the age is Sigma 1 Edition 
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I was like, yeah. 
Wow, which will not speak about 

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on this podcast. 
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Yeah. 
I actually played a couple of 

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games of a tradition and it just
wasn't my like I came back into 

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fancy playing, it's a tradition 
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like the Games Workshop gaming 
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a tactician thinking, I'll be 
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again after all these years and 
it just wasn't my addition and I

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don't know why I stopped playing
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I you know I could have just 
went back and played fifth 

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edition of found somebody to do 
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Took a lot longer after that, 
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But yeah, I think a tradition 
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Then they brought out, then they
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And then they, they had a 
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which is still kicking around, 
and then a jazz singer. 

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Came along. 
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at all? 
No, no. 

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So I know the night they age. 
That's just farm-based that. 

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Yeah, that's fan basement yet. 
That's kind of like the use of 

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the ITC International Tournament
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They're basically the some kind 
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who are like to play the who 
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competitively design, their own 
sort of rules based on, you 

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know, making the list of more 
balanced and all that kind of 

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stuff. 
I've never played it up to 

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seeing this black and white you 
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Each Manifesto brought to our 
games on one day and I thought 

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there's no way I'm playing 
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God no, no, well, no, sorry, 
yeah, it's not my cup of tea. 

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But yeah, like it's pretty 
popular with people who like to 

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play that kind of style of 
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But, yeah, there you go. 
But Richard here that you might 

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actually get started. 
Well, I suppose there's a very 

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similar story to Jason in it. 
Well, I, I've always paid for 

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Toy Soldiers ever since with 
little Ted, my remembering that 

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and very small, vinyl fold up 
Battlefield with plastic toy 

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soldiers and Our out trees. 
Not source does not, pay the 

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death over Christmas and then I 
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Dungeons and Dragons, route 
joined a group of school, paid 

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Dungeons and Dragons ends up. 
Becoming a dungeon master. 

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I'm one of my school report 
said, if Richard concentrate 

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more on his schoolwork, them 
Dungeons & Dragons, he do a lot 

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better. 
And as you can tell mother was 

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not pleased. 
So I got, I got planned for 

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plaintiffs, drag it from India 
whole term. 

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Oh, And then I cast my own 
models from Prince August and 

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that was great. 25 million 
molten lead. 

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Always always good to do that. 
So we used to make massive 

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armies, didn't never pay get 
them, mounted them on cardboard 

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paid was it this second edition?
I think a little box set for 10 

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fantasy battle you had freed it 
real book. 

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Tune it? 
Yeah. 

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And the magnificence fan or 
something. 

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Did you ever play that one? 
It was like we want to. 

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Seven characters, man. 
That knows those click it and I 

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was it tear the Lich King or 
something. 

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Remember, it was a terrible 
night's King. 

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Also, we wanted so badly to 
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And then, from there, we went 
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the hardback books, with the 
level 5 10, 15 Heroes, it around

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with forth. 
But at the same time for fancy 

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come out, Rogue that time we had
been playing Rogue Trader as 

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well and then I think I'll get 
me tie lines mixed up. 

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And then second edition paid a 
lot of second position. 

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Oddly enough never did even know
Jace never paid second edition 

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with Jade. 
It was meant to Games Workshop. 

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Apply Third Edition from dish, 
was in the queue, we just end up

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got chain. 
Then we ended up meeting at the 

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gaming clubs aren't enough. 
People would always end up 

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watching our games for some 
bizarre reason. 

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So maybe that's portent. 
That's because of Two tank of 

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gas. 
Oh, don't get back to tank up 

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against the wall. 
So I couldn't attack the rear of

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it so I couldn't win the game. 
When we genestealers And 

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everybody was laughing. 
I wasn't obviously. 

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And then Francine went out the 
window with never played it 

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since and just carried on with 
every edition of 40K after that.

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Yeah, you get above but the 
dancing with a group of friends,

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who are you waving that years 
ago? 

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If you had an army that was your
army, you didn't spread into 

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other armies, you couldn't like 
a case, had a Like, An Imperial 

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Guard Army. 
Then none of us will collect it.

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So we all are For NAMI. 
So we will never say mom. 

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He's fighting off against each 
other but and then Jason I 

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started the channel and it's 
really exciting to be able to 

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think what I can do different 
armies now. 

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Yeah. 
So worse was slowly building a 

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chaos Army. 
I've got some models, I got to 

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go for a chaos. 
I mean Imperial Guard Army. 

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A Space Marine Army. 
I'm going to slowly add read it.

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Going to do a full-on harlequin 
Army, but I think the paint 

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skills are never going to be 
able to skip the match for that.

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But yeah, Harlequin Army of it's
going to come at one point. 

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Yeah. 
So that's really it done down 

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the faculty route into the 
Sci-Fi rig. 

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I mean I think you probably 
played it. 

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So Jim do those fighting fantasy
books to your own adventure. 

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Yeah, some of them. 
Yeah, we good. 

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Yeah. 
So, yeah, it's very fancy 

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orientated until we went into 
the Sci-Fi. 

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Let's read it in a sense. 
The exceed ever played golf 

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more, cruel militia. 
No, no, no, I didn't really see 

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the appeal of them could have 
been going for then you have 

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space. 
Oh, yeah sure. 

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They kept bringing out the 
expansion pack for the deaf ring

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and the close of jeans to the 
cult. 

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Whatever. 
But were in there. 

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All right, because that's one of
the good things about your 

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channel is that it's very, I 
like the style and format that 

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you guys present in your videos,
but it's has that sort of 

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beginning of the before we even 
get to the game. 

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It's like, you guys are sitting 
down just chatting about 

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naturally about, you know, that 
the list you brought and why you

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brought them, what mission you 
playing and that kind of thing 

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and then you have like a pose. 
That'll kind of chat as well, 

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but it's always nice to hear 
those spontaneous moments during

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the battle, when something 
happens and you guys are 

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laughing. 
And just having fun and just 

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enjoying, you know, just doing a
naturally. 

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It's not kind of like it's not 
rehearsed or anything like that.

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All very spontaneous and fun so 
that's one of the don't even go 

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over there tonight, right? 
Because we just finished our 

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special report. 
I know I mentioned to you on 

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when we did. 
No messenger. 

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The get those free sex is for 
his armor penetration on my, on 

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my democracy tank and he wrote 
three sixes posture straight for

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the weapon. 
I could not believe it. 

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I mean, that was spontaneous 
because even though I thought 

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that's per tank on were both 
laughing Oriental. 

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Yeah. 
You might watch a game for a 

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little bit and then move on. 
You're kind of, in a sense, 

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looking over our shoulders, just
watching the game because 

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whether we were filming or not, 
this is how we would be, yes, 

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exactly. 
Yeah. 

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Is exactly how it would play 
out. 

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We don't there's no answer 
graceless it. 

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I suppose in a sense portal bent
of us deserves. 

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Yeah, goofing around two blokes 
goofing around and you have them

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watch it. 
It's a window into the way we 

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gain you later to make it a 
commissioner. 

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We just break up as you go 
along. 

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Hannah. 
Yeah, simple. 

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But it's also good that you guys
have been gaming for such a long

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time. 
You guys are stuck together 

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since for such a long time. 
Like since you guys met at the 

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Games Workshop store and you 
still gaining, which is awesome,

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it's a great story. 
If it is because someone posted 

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on the outer forearm, they're 
doing a games workshop's doing 

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and I've been kind of thing and 
Scatter Lakes is are now six 

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shots standard. 
Well they used to be in second 

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edition so it's been 23 years 
back to six shots on a scout 

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leader. 
Punto. 

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Yeah. 
Whose place in the keep going. 

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The same, always full of human 
mind human sky. 

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Like this here. 
Can Cobble went down to 12 

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inches or still space part so 
well, that one laughs. 

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Oh, no, don't hold a grudge, but
it's been 24 years and we got 

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this basic weapon going till the
day. 

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I die. 
All those right unique is that 

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we get. 
We get our fate for free. 

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All right. 
You guys are still actively in 

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the community. 
Like you actually, you guys have

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actually playing the. 
Is it the ninth Edition? 

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I don't really follow a lot of 
the modern stuff in a at night 

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that now, we do not know and I 
got to be honest with you. 

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Both struggling with it at the 
moment. 

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Yes. 
Lost it it's yeah if it wasn't 

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for the it comes to something. 
And Jason I've told about this 

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quite a lot is Used to be, you'd
be so excited that a codex is 

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coming out. 
And we're still waiting for my 

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order, my needs chaos demons, 
and the guy. 

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And it's like, we're getting all
these teachers with the Elder 

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and generally, I'm like, 
whatever. 

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I can't even get excited over 
it. 

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It 9th is really for us, kind of
Killed the major enjoyment that 

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we used to have only enough 84 
things more fun. 

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Yeah, we don't hate you at all 
these random cards up for. 

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Oh yeah, the most important. 
Yeah, just great. 

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And the objectives could be 
pasted randomly anywhere where 

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with night is so this time and 
time again, it's set up for 

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tournaments, which is fine if 
you run in the tournament, but 

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that's what we ended up trying 
to pay a lot of the Crusade 

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games because it was a lot more 
straightforward. 

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You didn't have to do a lot of 
admin. 

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Boy, calculating your victory 
points because when Watch 

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tomorrow battle reports. 
You can see we can add up when 

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we're doing the weapon skill. 
Dose for the second. 

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A bit difficult. 
Yeah. 

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Respects too much Avenue. 
It is a little bit of and it's 

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too much pregnant but like say 
if you're running the tournament

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it's amazing because it just 
helps you set everything up. 

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So, I get that, but and the 
matter, I think Bruins games is 

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one minute. 
All our enjoys seeing this 

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portal. 
Only a couple somewhere. 

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Someone else at the line is 
using about five or six of these

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units, because they're really 
good in competitions. 

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And then the it all filters 
through the constant updates. 

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And that, obviously, you can 
see, we're not good on 

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technology trying to keep up 
with everything. 

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It just kills your brain. 
Yes, we went to Power 8 and it's

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like, yeah, yeah, we do is get 
all the toys all the time. 

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Don't have to worry, don't get 
up. 

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When the points why you changed 
on the ray floor because of guns

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better or something like that? 
Well, I got they're not paying 

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for any way our rain job done, 
which is totally unbalanced. 

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Anyway, especially when you get 
one of your death, God come 

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back, ridiculous man. 
Yeah I just kind of lost. 

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Yeah. 
It's I'm humping it on kind of 

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hope when the code it tomorrow. 
It might kick it up the 

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backside, but then I would like 
coding and stuff like that. 

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So let's see what happens when 
the other one. 

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And the Net 10 chaos, one. 
The second seems to be more fun 

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more more, I mean that some 
parts but it's a lot of fun. 

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It's a lot more character. 
Thank you. 

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Yeah, definitely. 
Well maybe we'll kind of hoping 

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at one point something blew up 
in a open. 

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The turret which spin off into 
the distance and land on my 

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command school but never have no
sorry about that. 

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How could it be? 
But what was it? 

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That brought you back? 
As you know, you guys probably 

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falling through all the 
different editions of 40K and 

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that kind of thing. 
And Playing them to your heart's

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content and collecting all the 
models and that kind of stuff. 

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What were actually brought you 
back to playing second edition? 

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You want to do that, or should 
I? 

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I just went along because I'm 
too lazy to think that I'm a big

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bully animated. 
Do it. 

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Yeah. 
I don't like night for paying 

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second, which is pretty much it,
right? 

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The first has to be enjoyed. 
Why'd you stop playing that? 

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Because we always think we 
should progress. 

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I got nice models out there. 
Wanting the models are me, but 

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we always think you should 
progress through that through 

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the additions. 
Your we always hope that each 

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division will be an improvement 
on the last one. 

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Isis, really hard to get your 
head around because all the sun 

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especially like with all my 
corner, fix that. 

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What do you mean? 
They wound on a three? 

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That's ridiculous. 
But then they're only getting 

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wounded on a three choke on a 
balanced out with certain 

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weapons. 
But yeah, we just know it was 

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like we started doing the 
channel and what I noticed was 

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we were hardly getting any hits 
on our night vision. 

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Better of course but then 
there's so many out there doing 

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anyway it's not be surprised. 
Yeah um we're just started but I

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said the J. 
So I started getting him as 

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because of old age, I started 
getting quite nostalgic over the

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second edition stuff. 
Mmm and I joined a second 

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edition page on Facebook, join 
us. 

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Well yeah. 
And oh my God, these are 

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amazing. 
Remember this game I said the 

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Jace Jace. 
Don't be funny. 

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Just ask you doing second 
edition because there's no one 

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out there doing at the time, but
I could find second edition 

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Battle reports. 
They said, oh, we can give it a 

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go. 
So we got lucky through eBay and

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Facebook Market, I ended up. 
This book was stolen three, 

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basic rule books, the rule 
books, the weapons, and the Be 

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stress-free over the Chinese 
Imperial Palace. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Well, 

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boxset cheap as chips. 
We're missing a couple of things

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like the destructor steam of 
Correction template, but we've 

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just so heavy claim, a template 
for that, but it just suddenly 

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snowboard and we suddenly had 
Because we've been gaming for so

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long and we hadn't done second 
edition away from each other 

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didn't know each other 
existence. 

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I'm sure we had a load of second
edition models but never seen 

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like Dale's because yeah, it's 
like the first time range like 

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well what's the point of taking 
those in night? 

453
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,700
They're just gonna get trashed. 
Now, with a whole new reason to 

454
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:25,300
stop hating new old models up 
and as you see models would 

455
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:30,800
never see that the table because
Jason's show for shame is 

456
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,800
massive. 
It's not yeah, it's bigger than 

457
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,300
mine. 
You got a garage and it's full 

458
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:40,200
of unpainted stuff, but just in 
fact we both said, oh my God. 

459
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,700
I'm actually excited to dig out 
my second edition stuff. 

460
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:47,400
Like Jason Mora's you would 
never think about pain is never 

461
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
use a midnight is like oh my God
I can paint these. 

462
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Yeah I mean I've got so excited 
just strip down a load of my 

463
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,100
second edition Warriors from he 
needs to that and then repaint 

464
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,600
with the contrast paints. 
I was dead against contrast 

465
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,200
because it felt like cheating 
but Results were amazing. 

466
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,000
And that's really the Nostalgia 
Rush. 

467
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Is like how it is amazing, you 
don't need loads of models in 

468
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,400
seconds. 
I mean we were at about 50 moles

469
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,400
of a marine to you like 2,000 
points. 

470
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,600
So it's like yeah, Peyton an 
army that was quite quick' when 

471
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,900
it especially where you'd 
better. 

472
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,100
Yeah, it's pretty black. 
A little bit and you'll see it 

473
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:37,900
does. 
Oh no, not even a mention. 

474
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:41,400
I want to paint competition. 
This is a real stopped out every

475
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,000
last. 
Drop out. 

476
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,600
Yeah. 
Seven times in played in there. 

477
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,300
Yeah, that's yeah. 
That's right. 

478
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:52,100
Well, that's Roy's. 
I think it's Nostalgia but then,

479
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:54,700
you know, small she's got into 
it and you some realize rules 

480
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,900
are like really. 
Oh my God, you've got to treat 

481
00:29:57,900 --> 00:29:59,900
every even though they're a 
unique, you got to treat him as 

482
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:03,400
an individual model. 
That it's really a skirmish game

483
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,300
them. 
Yeah, I meanyeah third 

484
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:10,400
changeable that become bowels. 
My stupid 12-inch shooting 

485
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,600
Campos. 
Hey DOMA. 

486
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,100
Sorry. 
Yeah, you know, I'd like that 

487
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,000
because I, you know, I played it
with Paul here for the first 

488
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600
time in my 25 years. 
Something like that, something 

489
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,800
crazy with my talks and his, his
sister's a battle. 

490
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,800
But yeah, I really enjoyed this 
small scale and like you say the

491
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,000
Skirmish element sized. 
Yeah. 

492
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,100
Thing about second edition 
because there's a lot going on 

493
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:39,600
even though there's only a few 
models on the table. 

494
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,900
There's a lot of stuff happening
like this lot of charts and 

495
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:46,100
tables and vehicle data facts 
cards and you Psychic phase. 

496
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,700
And, you know, there's still 
heaps going on. 

497
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:53,000
But one thing they're very like 
I said, a very small scale, you 

498
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,800
know, operations kind of thing, 
but the mission cards and thus, 

499
00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:00,800
the, what are they called the 
strategy cards, just add all 

500
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,100
that extra flavor, you know, to 
the game and it just, it just 

501
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,900
makes that replayability just so
much more fun. 

502
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,700
See you fine, though, it's got a
lot more character. 

503
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:16,800
I mean, you look at second 
edition about any other 

504
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,300
addition, as I think gross it's 
got a lot more character. 

505
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,300
I mean we were just talking 
about the Codex. 

506
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:26,900
Tails is a fantastic codex, but 
it's got little Snippets. 

507
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:29,500
Like the fact that terminate 
can't teleport because they 

508
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:33,200
haven't been able to maintain 
the technology, but they're 

509
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,800
quite happy to use plasma guns 
every turn even though there's a

510
00:31:35,808 --> 00:31:38,900
chance of them overheating where
the Imperium like to let them 

511
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:42,200
cool down. 
You know, it's little things 

512
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,900
like that. 
I'll come right back laughs 

513
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:45,900
laughs. 
Yeah, definitely. 

514
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Well actually reap Priestly said
in a recent interview on the 

515
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,700
class dice podcast that a lot of
a lot of people actually refer 

516
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:57,500
back to the second mission 
codexes for all the law and 

517
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,400
fluff and that kind of thing 
because they kind of lost it in 

518
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,200
Third Edition, they can like, 
I'm not a I'm not a big personal

519
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,500
knowledge of the other editions 
because I dropped out after 

520
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:07,800
second. 
So I don't really know much 

521
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,000
about all the other stuff but 
apparently they had these sort 

522
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,600
of Pamphlet sized really thin 
kind of books available food. 

523
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,600
Addition, they did sort of 
dropped all the law and fluff 

524
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,000
and they just went straight to 
the Army listener, kind of 

525
00:32:18,008 --> 00:32:20,100
thing. 
Well, Rick said they were always

526
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,200
referred back to the second 
edition ones because they had 

527
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,300
all the law had all the good 
stuff in there. 

528
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:28,600
That sort of got lost over time 
and they this the sales and 

529
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,800
marketing guys that said, okay, 
we just want something thin and 

530
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,800
you know, we just want the 
gaming stuff or not the not the 

531
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,700
fluff and you know all the it's 
the flow Stormborn. 

532
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:40,100
Yeah, absolutely made it really 
gets strong. 

533
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,800
The Narrative about Wilson paint
like, you know, for painting 

534
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,600
wise and army building wise, you
know, like starting a whole 

535
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,100
project, you know, you want the 
fluff, you want the background, 

536
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:51,500
you need the inspiration, and 
that kind of thing. 

537
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:55,900
You need the stories to really, 
you know, bring out that, you 

538
00:32:55,908 --> 00:32:58,700
know, the theme or whatever it 
might be to your army as well. 

539
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:02,500
And not just the the stats, the 
stats don't really do much for, 

540
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,500
you know what I mean. 
You really want to have that 

541
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,900
Reese. 
We fought. 

542
00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:08,500
That's it. 
It's like if you're a marine 

543
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:11,400
playing now, he would see. 
To be collecting the Marines. 

544
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,600
Just because they've got certain
rule for their chapter wearing. 

545
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,500
S your collections because you 
over like the color blue or you 

546
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:21,400
like the history of all trees, 
all you got the history of the 

547
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,600
Blue. 
Angels is nothing really in them

548
00:33:23,608 --> 00:33:26,000
that they make the much 
different path from the 

549
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,200
storylines, the background and 
it's Elvis. 

550
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,900
It doesn't do this that line. 
Just like the older couple days.

551
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,700
Yeah. 
It's like you got for craft 

552
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:36,200
worlds. 
But you never even thought 

553
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,500
making your own or didn't, but 
you got full craft rose and you 

554
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:42,500
go for a craft room, you'd like 
the color off and maybe the 

555
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:46,900
background story of it. 
And then it's just a name is no 

556
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:48,400
different way of paying the 
Elder. 

557
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,900
And the only thing I'm really 
come up if you but the Marines 

558
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:55,100
because your blood angels and 
angels are not going to pretty 

559
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,100
yeah, there's nothing major but 
major the spatial coordinates 

560
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,600
was good though. 
Yeah. 

561
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:02,100
But that chain that was the hard
codex. 

562
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:06,600
Those wolf God were nightmare. 
Or just over the so kind of bull

563
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,600
Trend this year. 
Yeah. 

564
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,300
Cheers. 
Nice. 

565
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:11,900
Part about wants to cut a deal 
with Bernard Bernard Storm 

566
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:15,000
Shield, logo, actually type 
table, which is soaked almonds. 

567
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,800
Everyone needs. 
I don't rate, I got across the 

568
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,500
board, Bernal storm shield and 
just dust pan and brush me 

569
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:26,100
models of tables around us. 
They were horrible, we see the 

570
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,100
love, the space will tell, but I
hate fighting. 

571
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,699
I think the fluff and the 
background of the space was 

572
00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:32,300
amazing, but I hate this, an 
army. 

573
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:36,600
I hate to fight. 
If I killed since just, just 

574
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:39,500
just just take your Dark Angels 
next time me and when you play 

575
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:57,000
them have a word doc or changes 
or horrendous, they get plus one

576
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,200
for being charged and then the 
next time they get past 14 still

577
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,700
being in combat. 
Yes. 

578
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:04,900
He's got the physical sport that
first night when it was the Or 

579
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:09,300
the bus, a bus, didn't make any 
sense for the upcoming, not at 

580
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:11,800
all. 
I mean, I don't know if you saw 

581
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:15,400
what will I do. 
Like is you've got all the 

582
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:21,600
second edition stuff but now, 20
or 23 plus years later we've got

583
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,600
all that new fluff. 
I mean there is no way when 

584
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,100
second edition come out that I 
would have done like an iron 

585
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:33,600
craft will fiend army with loads
of great guard and criminals 

586
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:37,000
Wait, just you never even 
thought about way. 

587
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,500
But then, when third edition 
come out, you had waged informed

588
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,900
that you always because I craft 
will codex that little Panther 

589
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:46,700
the combined with other for 
Minecraft world. 

590
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:49,600
And the way you use more, 
whatever was great. 

591
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,000
But again back then you never 
done that. 

592
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,300
I always filled it in a range of
force. 

593
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Which was great with that range 
of Destruction table. 

594
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,200
But then 23 years later, talk 
and Jason. 

595
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,600
Hang on a minute. 
I've got a lot of race, got it 

596
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,300
home. 
I'm never going to use them. 

597
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,500
Strip them contrast to them, or 
got annoyed and crafts for Ravi.

598
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:12,800
That's a she could crazy the 
payment. 

599
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:16,400
Yeah, so we've been thinking 
about because of all the models 

600
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:23,200
we got stripping them and in 
doing like still second edition 

601
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:27,700
but using the fluff of maybe 
third You formulate an army like

602
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:31,200
because II one thing I've always
wanted to do is a like a 

603
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,500
scouting out or Armijo. 
So a lot of ranges I mean got 

604
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,600
like 60 of them but you never 
feel about in an army. 

605
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,200
So we're looking at 1500 points 
from Rangers scorpions Walker's,

606
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,400
vipers fast, moving stuff and do
it as a theme thing. 

607
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,700
And we were onto enough talking 
about this tonight. 

608
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,100
Instead of keeping a hoarders 
one color because the days for 

609
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:57,300
us of Fielding massive, armies 
are gone. 

610
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,500
Yeah. 
We've ever used to gaming a 

611
00:36:59,508 --> 00:37:03,400
garage and either set up and 
stuff like that but now we've 

612
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,300
got to think like the sweet spot
is about 1500 points and I could

613
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:13,300
have with the ones I got a belt,
an Army full of aspect Warriors 

614
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:18,700
and maybe the Avatar a range of 
thoughts with Scouts and wipers 

615
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:20,200
all workers and paint it to 
that. 

616
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:23,100
True color of the great. 
It's all about. 

617
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:26,100
Crippled Marino means I can't 
feel you do. 

618
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,100
Yeah, that's all you did hate. 
Yeah. 

619
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:36,600
Yeah. 
That's like so they should just 

620
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,000
be Scout all Scouts and one or 
two squads of normal Marines for

621
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,500
about 2,000 points, you imagine,
I would infiltrate you though. 

622
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Yeah. 
All on your pasta, two units 

623
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:52,600
about don't rain forever. 
Be the only we had super go on. 

624
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,900
Was you really should put him 
down with, I've got a salamander

625
00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:59,400
Army. 
I've got basically three armies 

626
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,700
of Flesh, tears. 
Going from Second Edition from 

627
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,400
for upwards and night vision or 
roughly 2,000. 3,000 points in 

628
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,900
your collection. 
A lot bigger than mine. 

629
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:17,500
Yeah, I just got carried away. 
Yeah, it's just like more down 

630
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:19,500
and it will place you think 
around just doing lots of 

631
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,200
individual, proper little fiend 
armies for setting. 

632
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:26,300
So as a case of like, if I do, 
oh look, it's going to be our 

633
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,600
door again. 
But if we painted like Samhain, 

634
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:33,000
so, be lot of potentially 
variables, and painted red, jack

635
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000
points, and stuff like that, or 
it could be about tan. 

636
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,900
So I paint them green and I will
of aspect Warriors. 

637
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,100
So even though it's still only 
an hour Army, Construct of the 

638
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:48,000
army itself will be more theme 
towards that craft will wearing 

639
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,400
technically Second Edition. 
That's all the information 

640
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,400
wasn't available to us at the 
time so it would be nice to use 

641
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,600
what we know now to go back and 
create second edition armies a 

642
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,700
lot more theme. 
I think we will get those tips. 

643
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:07,800
Let me go. 
Yeah, honestly, no struggle. 

644
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,700
Yeah, go somewhere. 
It was so good. 

645
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Oh my God. 
Once you then I've got home. 

646
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:21,700
We know. 
Need stripping. 

647
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:26,800
Ion. 
I think I've got another four 

648
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,700
corner fixes that. 
Oh, really. 

649
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,700
So we were thinking Oscar, a 0 
plus a hive time. 

650
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:37,200
I worked out. 
It might have to be about 2100 

651
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,100
but just have a load of carnufex
is Hive Tyrant and to keep 

652
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:42,700
within the rules themselves and 
have to have some more years 

653
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,400
just to do the 24% brutes. 
And then Jason just take me over

654
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,800
loads of vehicles and every 
reference to just wipe out this 

655
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,000
massive Army of God, fix it, but
I wouldn't be in a muppet on a 

656
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,200
fixed Entry of optic membrane so
they become like 200 points 

657
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,300
face. 
But yeah, for roommates 6 lb 515

658
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:04,900
Corner fixes if you are turning 
towards running around them 

659
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,800
funny as hell. 
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah. 

660
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Thank you Josh. 
So you can give you the if I'm 

661
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,200
feeling the inspiration than 
that but you won't be after the 

662
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,300
Viking. 
I think he told me at the 

663
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,500
numbers, right? 
Yeah. 

664
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:22,500
So you got some work to do 
there. 

665
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,000
This is going on the niche, 
Facebook group called Dale 

666
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,800
Perry. 
And if I miss it, every turn 

667
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,500
around and said, don't you think
you got enough models? 

668
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,600
I'm just going to show her the 
pictures of his collection of 

669
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200
nixed. 
It is mental. 

670
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:47,600
I mean, he's, it's just 
frightening here, you've got 

671
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,200
them all out one day and put 
them on an eight by four ball or

672
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,400
something, and he had no space 
left, and they were all based 

673
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,500
the base and the mouth Corner 
fix of the Monstrous Creatures. 

674
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:57,600
Got, it's just like, that's 
ridiculous. 

675
00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:00,900
That's where the garage is. 
Is a massive. 

676
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:06,900
It is proper life goals. 
Huge, huge amount of model one. 

677
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:09,000
Nick. 
When you get the pants you will 

678
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,800
like what would you do? 
You still look? 

679
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,200
Yeah. 
So I mean I've always felt I had

680
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:24,100
we used to play with it but I 
used to pay effort especially in

681
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,200
Africa. 
No we did it. 

682
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,400
And we finally found a way of 
break beat them and he stopped 

683
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:44,800
playing it as in traffic. 
But why did is my second mid 

684
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,200
Army? 
I based on Spoon course parts 

685
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,800
from epic. 
So I'd have 150 term, abort 25, 

686
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,300
former gorgeous, 25 goggles 
I-25, metal dog, dogs. 

687
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,300
And of course, one of the cards 
but streak on a fix. 

688
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:04,400
So I thought I got a free kind 
of fixes, so sorry, Connor fixes

689
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,200
way, but then Uncle Maurice 
fancy 10 and I've got to 10. 

690
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,500
But some of them with a plastic 
ones are later additions, but I 

691
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:16,600
just something about the 
screaming killer model that it's

692
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,400
just like see again. 
I think it's old age. 

693
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,900
It's Nostalgia is just an 
amazingly, great model. 

694
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,500
I love that model. 
We're going to put together but 

695
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,400
awesome model. 
I think it's one of my favorite 

696
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,600
incarnations of crying affect. 
Yeah. 

697
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,300
That's creamer killer? 
Yep. 

698
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,300
I love it. 
It can give you. 

699
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,600
You talking about like 
recreating like epic sort of 

700
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,900
like the Army Cards into 40K and
reminds me. 

701
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:45,100
The early games day photographs 
will they had people playing 

702
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:51,200
like the 40/40 case n additions,
scaled are 20 ml Scale Models 

703
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,000
but playing Epic Space Marine, 
so they have like like five 

704
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,200
Marines, I'm like a square base 
kind of thing. 

705
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,400
They're like giant golden sand. 
They like I think the armor 

706
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,000
casts, maybe armored cars did 
the vehicles, like all their 

707
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,800
light in the garden. 
The Reba tighten, all that kind 

708
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,200
of stuff, and they had like a 
massive on the floor. 

709
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,400
They played on the Basically, 
one of the game's days those 

710
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,800
which are really fun. 
You must not do expensive, 

711
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:24,700
Victorian to because I had a 
weapon skills. 

712
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:27,800
Door closes so Factor plus sign,
you know, weapons pretty good as

713
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,800
well and they had wings like fly
really far. 

714
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,600
Yeah, the X actually writing out
there and that was a good 

715
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,100
addition because we're riding 
horses. 

716
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:38,700
Well, always felt like always 
translate building, one of them 

717
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:43,200
speed up, 19, vipers the 30 cap 
white singing about nine times 

718
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,700
in a box in the garage 
somewhere. 

719
00:43:45,100 --> 00:44:06,600
Oh, it's not in the morning. 
You go to see. 

720
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,900
What me? 
Oh, we should say. 

721
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:13,700
This is a video, but I said I 
had a warlock, tightening easier

722
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:15,500
way. 
Be two fingers up being and the 

723
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:18,100
right way not to be bright, but 
he's got to Wally. 

724
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:30,800
I only had some epic spot models
on the sprues. 

725
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:42,100
Yeah, And I like the fact that 
what I thought was really cool 

726
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:45,800
is you some of your rock 
formations from your 40K games 

727
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:49,600
and they're like, it Rock spires
but suddenly when you put those 

728
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,500
that same train on your epic 
board is still, you massive 

729
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:55,300
rock. 
Formations that really good. 

730
00:44:55,700 --> 00:45:00,800
Oh my God, but don't return. 
Are you kidding? 

731
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,800
You can at least Go to do it. 
But those, it's one of the 

732
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:14,000
greatest games, I'm sure Jason's
garage. 

733
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,300
You'll find a whole host of 
different armies in there. 

734
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:18,200
Maybe just scrounge around 
through there. 

735
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,800
All unpainted of course, but you
can drag those out, contrast 

736
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,800
them up and you have them on the
table. 

737
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:27,400
You know no childhood garage or 
just leave bread crumbs talking 

738
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,000
for me way back out or you'll 
never make it out of there. 

739
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,000
Maybe you'll never make another 
you do. 

740
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,600
When you got an internal, Go to 
Heaven until you paint all your 

741
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,300
models. 
I ain't going to be done in the 

742
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:53,200
next 
video. 

743
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,500
The kitchen. 
See how much Motors work on? 

744
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:09,000
The Triumph logo? 
Doesn't know anything about it. 

745
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:19,300
It's amazing. 
How many models in that gouge 

746
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:22,600
are potentially mine. 
Please turn around as mrs. 

747
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,400
I'll keep an area for ritual 
with mrs. 

748
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,700
Don't find out where everything 
is every now and then and you 

749
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:31,600
tell me about this umbrageous, I
just haven't opened it up yet 

750
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:35,500
and so there's a great It's 
funny that my place of work, or 

751
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:37,200
like we should get a lot of 
boxes. 

752
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,700
When you take it along, Daft, 
I'll take them on one box at a 

753
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:46,500
time. 
Strong controlling, women us 

754
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:49,500
away. 
Well, yeah, but we play with the

755
00:46:49,508 --> 00:46:51,300
cards. 
They, when they put out the 

756
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,300
boring version it was the with a
dice. 

757
00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:57,000
I think they do. 
You do like ordered Dyson a 

758
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,700
change. 
The world are the third dish. 

759
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:01,400
That was terrible. 
Yeah. 

760
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,000
When you're two component of, 
that was Basically the same as 

761
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,000
battlefleet Gothic, we had to 
find your Firepower and then 

762
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,000
that tells you how many great 
you got this for ya? 

763
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:17,600
Second edition. 
Epic will Space Marine of yes, 

764
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,900
of course. 
Yeah, that was that was good. 

765
00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:23,300
I mean I still got the order and
chaos go Rex. 

766
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,700
I think I've got the hive mind 
on that was great. 

767
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:30,200
Come on, man, that's worth a 
fortune that. 

768
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,200
Yeah, I really, really. 
Yeah. 

769
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,600
Have you got No, I don't because
it's so rare to get to get a 

770
00:47:35,607 --> 00:47:37,500
complete set. 
Now it's very rare because it 

771
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:38,800
was the last thing they 
released. 

772
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:45,100
I think before they closed up. 
What the hive mind Hive was, 

773
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:46,600
I've mindset. 
If you could have come, if you 

774
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,600
have a complete set of High 
Point, it's very rare to hold 

775
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,900
onto that with dear life because
and restore it and whatever 

776
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:56,000
looks almost employment you 
didn't lose them. 

777
00:47:56,300 --> 00:48:03,200
What you do is you melted them 
down jizz because I got this Box

778
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,700
and the chaos not getting on the
really big ones. 

779
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:07,400
Chaos one. 
Yeah, yeah. 

780
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:17,900
Yeah. 
So the blood thirst is in Space 

781
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,000
Marine. 
Yeah, we're great the blood 

782
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:27,100
versus the profile in second 
edition are great but the models

783
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:30,500
never really done Justice 
compared to the bloodthirster 

784
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:35,300
models we got now is like those 
Match the profile of second 

785
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:38,800
edition but they don't really 
matter because if brothers are 

786
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,800
still vast two minutes in a 
night vision game mate, I really

787
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,400
did Mortals really reflecting 
the profile of second edition 

788
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,800
out because they were arms 
sales. 

789
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:52,700
Yeah, weapon skills and like 10 
or whatever. 

790
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:56,300
Is the board I think with the 
bloodthirster Xander's editions.

791
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:59,300
Yeah, the heroic missions here 
profit is just don't last very 

792
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:00,600
long. 
You see him and you're thinking,

793
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,800
wow, I would see a bloodthirsty.
The rocks at me and be like, how

794
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,200
am I going to take out? 
But you see these people playing

795
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,300
ninth Edition, though. 
They are, are just shoot off 

796
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:11,600
board with this and the thing 
just disappears. 

797
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,000
Unify, that's not right. 
Big scary monster like that. 

798
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:20,800
Should take a phenomenal amount 
of Firepower, which take now or 

799
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,700
you don't want to get into 
combat because I mean, you 

800
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,200
looked at me like you say, you 
don't Paint Nite. 

801
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:28,300
We look at some of the battle 
reports that you watch on other 

802
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:32,600
channels and things like corn. 
If it's just scary and second, 

803
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,700
no one ball is taking them. 
All right. 

804
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:37,100
Take that. 
And everybody takes now because 

805
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:40,700
of the way, the gamers I mean 
you could say it's evolved in 

806
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:46,200
the high winds of over and over 
but no one takes combat need 

807
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,000
armies. 
It's all Cronus. 

808
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,500
And it's all Hive Garden towards
our throats and it's all 

809
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:54,100
shooting and I'm thinking what 
happened? 

810
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:58,100
You went, where you had an army 
for a needs to win again. 

811
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:01,400
Yeah, that's what should be 
scared to be in, come up with an

812
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,200
ID or me, but no one is a new 
one, no one shortage of them, 

813
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:08,300
they all shoot York's, not 
combat words. 

814
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,300
Yeah, but you could take shoot, 
you want? 

815
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,900
Because your average dose rule 
were better than someone to 

816
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:17,300
build skill of three. 
Yes, even forged ahead and he 

817
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:19,400
was out. 
Now is if you can force their, 

818
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:28,400
it was it was ridiculous. 
Honestly me he took all grimy as

819
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,200
a shooting Army and took an 
Imperial Guard. 

820
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,300
Army catch am as a closer so 
Army used to run it with us. 

821
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:38,900
No usable 10 Mana chrome mirror 
yeah with a demolition. 

822
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,200
Charlie's, comforted here, 
catch. 

823
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:46,000
I'm broke. 
You just had it the wrong way 

824
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,800
around, man. 
But you somehow you want. 

825
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,500
You have to think I'm cool. 
Yeah, yeah. 

826
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:53,600
Well, yeah. 
I'm fine. 

827
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:58,900
No7 vitamin C night. 
Yeah, but now you got the old 

828
00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:00,000
Conan tonight. 
Yeah. 

829
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,800
Yeah. 
But that's something that's the 

830
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,600
problem. 
This is really weird. 

831
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,400
We talk again. 
We talked about nine is we're 

832
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,500
very lucky that we've been 
gaming for so long and we 

833
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:12,900
managed to keep a lot of our 
second edition models. 

834
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:18,700
But there's some armies it you 
just cannot buy because they're 

835
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:20,900
either too expensive or you 
can't see them on the Internet 

836
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:24,300
on eBay or anything like that. 
And it's like demon armies in 

837
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:26,800
the back of the Codex cows but 
there's a demon Army. 

838
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:27,500
Me. 
Yeah. 

839
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:30,200
You try and buy a second edition
demon Army. 

840
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,900
You'd have to remortgage your 
house. 

841
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,700
Yeah so we will feel the demon 
Army. 

842
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:37,200
I want to feel deep moment but 
it's going to have to be with 

843
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,400
current models. 
And and that's a fine line. 

844
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,900
I think a lot of people like to 
be produced a logic, go down, 

845
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:48,000
the proper room, proper terrain,
proper morals, if you can, 

846
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,300
that's fine. 
But it's like, which is better. 

847
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,900
All right playing The Real 
Models though, the proper model 

848
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:58,800
of the rules. 
I'd still rather see someone pay

849
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,600
second edition with their 
current models the excuse or 

850
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,300
something. 
They actually think the code is 

851
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:05,500
running the code. 
We saw me in there. 

852
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,200
Yeah. 
Well, can we talk then don't 

853
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,800
tanks up and use all the last 
edition of chaos call yourself. 

854
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,800
I've got stupid a metal because 
you could get, I could do my, I 

855
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:24,500
didn't Craftwell Army, but use 
the modern Rafe guard units and 

856
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:26,400
arm and property to do got 
raised cannons. 

857
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:30,700
Then on Rafe Lord, our a 
Dreadnought you wouldn't bother 

858
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:33,500
giving them the sword and you 
just give them the one heavy 

859
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:36,700
weapon on her shoulder. 
So you could still arm your 

860
00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:41,400
current models or the current 
range if its second edition. 

861
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,800
But I don't think people should 
do that if they want to play 

862
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,200
second edition. 
Just pay me what you got. 

863
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:52,300
Tweak, the rules a little bit. 
If you can't have this proper 

864
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:54,700
second edition models and just 
pay with what you got. 

865
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:56,100
Yeah. 
He's doing an all call me. 

866
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:58,400
We were telling God. 
That was calling Spencer. 

867
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,700
Was that was horrendous. 
Yeah. 

868
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:06,300
When you look at 5:10 could have
broke my hand at all because I 

869
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:12,100
got lucky male voice. 
Stop gaming. 

870
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:16,000
So he was quite happy to sell 
some of his thoughts at sort of 

871
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,800
mates rates and that's why we 
ended up with an orc Army. 

872
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:22,100
Yeah. 
And it was a going Canada, he's 

873
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:26,000
flying over to the UK and he 
posted on the second edition 

874
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,600
Facebook group and he's on 
managed to acquire some of those

875
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,200
models as well. 
So I should get the next week. 

876
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:37,900
He said he fly over them, push 
from the UK, save on postage. 

877
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,800
Right? 
So that's great. 

878
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:46,100
So, we've managed to acquire. 
Our mobile voice original Road 

879
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:49,900
Trader, jump, Piper's oil, the 
sculpture the twin are. 

880
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:51,400
You got yourself? 
You got tortured in? 

881
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,500
You okay, the scorcher? 
Yeah, so the autonomy will will 

882
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:57,300
get flashed out. 
But the biggest problem we've 

883
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:01,600
got now is painting is finding 
time to paint. 

884
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,400
We've got loads of models. 
No time to pay and I am the 

885
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,000
fastest painter in the world 
either. 

886
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,900
Don't even go standards. 
But see on the tip of your 

887
00:54:11,908 --> 00:54:15,700
tongue, but Jace is a faster 
paint in the me. 

888
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,400
You don't really good scorches, 
you got. 

889
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,600
Sorry. 
How many scourges you got now? 

890
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,600
Who's our God has other for its 
I win. 

891
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:18,300
The fried to a crisp so it was 
lovely on their day. 

892
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:21,200
They can be absolutely deadly. 
So you got two of those you can 

893
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,400
you run them on the flanks and, 
you know, they'll be causing all

894
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,500
kinds of Havoc. 
So yeah. 

895
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:28,500
Definitely, you'll be, we got, I
think we're missing the front 

896
00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:33,900
wheel of a war truck are really 
the last coming, on the back of 

897
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:34,900
it. 
Oh yeah. 

898
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:35,500
Sure. 
Okay. 

899
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,600
Yes. 
But Jay sprayed. 

900
00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:42,100
Gordon Walker. 
Yeah. 

901
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:45,800
And then we found out. 
Like all come out roughly near 

902
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:51,500
the end of 2nd edition so the 
trucks he's got ya off a viable.

903
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:54,600
Yeah, absolutely. 
Yeah so the origami we just 

904
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,500
going to go very mobile. 
I've got some commanders, I mean

905
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:03,500
at the game we did with the Orcs
at the end of October we are 

906
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:07,800
Commandos but that was only the 
You know, half of them but the 

907
00:56:07,808 --> 00:56:11,700
rest of each strip of repainted.
So we can have a massive all-boy

908
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:14,900
charge or voice charge. 
Got some jump Packers. 

909
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:19,500
Now, Commander, so half the Orcs
will be across the board before,

910
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:22,900
you know, it, you've got loads 
of spices, all the Gorka pipes, 

911
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:25,300
where the plastic ones, what 
we're second edition. 

912
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:28,600
But with the all kinds of the 
back, what kind on the side on 

913
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,900
the side? 
Yeah, it's like an addition. 

914
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:33,900
Yeah, they second edition. 
Oh, wow. 

915
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:37,900
Oh my God, that's amazing. 
And also all those vehicles are 

916
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:40,900
actually available in plastic in
second edition late, 2nd edition

917
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:43,100
or mid second edition. 
They had had their, you know, 

918
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:48,900
the the What's called the attack
by call The Knobs bike, or what 

919
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:52,800
it was called in plastic there. 
But the scorcher in plastic and 

920
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,800
the wall bug in plastic. 
So, if the metal ones, just 

921
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,100
under table and a table 
price-wise, whatever you can 

922
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:02,100
probably find them in plastic 
somewhere for relatively good 

923
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:04,300
prices, I guess. 
Yeah. 

924
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:08,100
Yeah, I'll be interested that so
not nice. 

925
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:11,000
They made little that's tied to 
paint up like with the old, the 

926
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,800
old metal ones. 
I mean, of course, they're 

927
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,100
classic. 
They're Rogue Trader. 

928
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,600
But you know, they've, you know,
during the course of time and 

929
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,000
during the molding processes and
during those days, they didn't 

930
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,000
come up all that nice and crisp 
and you know, easy to paint. 

931
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,500
So that the plastic ones do have
that benefit that it really 

932
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:32,200
nicely moulded and you know, 
they're really smooth and all 

933
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,100
the details are very clear. 
In the lab. 

934
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:45,000
We try trying to be especially 
with S as authentic as we can. 

935
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,800
Yeah, I notice it and I like 
that, I like that. 

936
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,500
I respect that. 
I've got a load of Rogue Trader.

937
00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:54,300
What I mean I've got I'd love 
absolutely, love the original 

938
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:57,500
out or Dreadnought the Rogue 
Trader ones for the to our 

939
00:57:57,500 --> 00:58:01,200
painter, for my Ivan, Cranford 
or proper second edition. 

940
00:58:01,900 --> 00:58:04,700
But there's something about when
that white wolf came out, He's 

941
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:10,300
worked with 100, and they had 
the three dreadnoughts, the 

942
00:58:10,308 --> 00:58:12,000
Banshee, the war, trying the 
wall demon. 

943
00:58:12,500 --> 00:58:20,500
Yeah, they were just amazing. 
And I've got five of them, and 

944
00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:25,000
three of them are still in a 
plastic bag, which needs to be 

945
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,400
painted, but I thought, you 
know, I've got to find a reason 

946
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,800
to paint them because you're 
trying to be authentic and the 

947
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,100
road trainers, I mean, the Rogue
Trader Eldar on. 

948
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,400
Think of the ujin find an excuse
to paint and we just filled in 

949
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,100
them as a 10-man unit of pirates
because they look different to 

950
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:43,400
the crossroad outer sort of 
thing. 

951
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,500
So because they're different, I 
can, are I cannot get away with 

952
00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:51,700
field a pirate unit, no such 
finding that the depth of their 

953
00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:55,200
work before we get there fella, 
second edition are not reduce or

954
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,000
even six. 
That's used for shorter ones. 

955
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:01,600
Yeah, the last the report we've 
done tonight case it is. 

956
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:06,200
There will Forge Road. 
Yeah, over Yeah. 

957
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:10,700
But that does this thing. 
They how many it was 35 models 

958
00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:16,100
on the yeah 1500 points. 35 
models is crazy when you think 

959
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:19,700
about it. 
I'm still Artful game as well. 

960
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:25,300
Yeah, how scary it will for the 
scene that so when, when will be

961
00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:33,100
latest battle pulled me up, do 
you think In about, I'll go home

962
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:38,100
and go to sleep. 
It's all right. 

963
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:49,400
No work today, which will be 
probably early morning for you. 

964
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:50,800
That's cool things. 
Great. 

965
00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:53,700
So you'll probably see it well 
for you. 

966
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,400
Maybe Monday morning. 
Yep, perfect. 

967
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,600
Sounds possibly, we'll look 
forward to that. 

968
00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:00,600
Yeah, it is all about. 
I'll go. 

969
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,400
Oh, yes. 
I know all I tend to do is just 

970
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,900
link all the videos together on 
the phone, let upload and upload

971
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,000
it to YouTube. 
So, we don't really do a lot. 

972
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,600
Yeah, don't we did get a little 
bit crazy and treat yourself to 

973
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:17,200
some lights, which is a bit 
better. 

974
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:20,300
So the lighting is better. 
But yeah, that's that's about it

975
01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:23,200
is all done on my mobile and 
this is why we're moving to the 

976
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,200
camera. 
It's all mirrored. 

977
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,700
Yeah, that's all the right. 
You know, t-shirts whatever's 

978
01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:31,000
it's mirror because of Just got 
on a selfie. 

979
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,700
Selfie mode. 
Yeah, you know technology Josh. 

980
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,600
Hey guys, we have to wrap it up 
today. 

981
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,800
I'm really sorry but that means 
like almost like to 1 a.m. in 

982
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,800
the morning there for you guys. 
And my wife has to go to work. 

983
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,100
So I'm going to have to 
unfortunately, cut our interview

984
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:49,900
a little bit short, but I think 
that we did it for about an 

985
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:53,000
hour, so that's really good. 
Good, great for you guys to have

986
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,100
that time to share with us 
today. 

987
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:56,600
So I really appreciate that. 
Guys are know. 

988
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,100
It's really early in the morning
and you guys want to get get get

989
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,800
home and get to sleep. 
Start editing a wild animal. 

990
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:05,200
We don't we go over there were 
just buzzing. 

991
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,900
Yeah, that's good guy says 
excellent. 

992
01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:14,500
So I really, really appreciate 
your time today for both of you.

993
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,600
That's a brilliant. 
Thanks for the chat, go. 

994
01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:18,900
Anytime anytime you want to come
on? 

995
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:21,500
We'll have to have you. 
So I appreciate that. 

996
01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:25,200
Might enjoy yourself. 
Yeah, you took you guys too? 

997
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:29,800
Yeah and we'll look at our 
messenger or whatever. 

998
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,300
But yeah, you keep in touch with
short. 

999
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:34,200
So, Jason, Richard, thank you 
very much, again. 

1000
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,000
He got your name, right? 
I'm Jasmine. 

1001
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:38,600
I am jazz.