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I know all the parents thinking 
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Not taking good care of 
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the parents really benefit. 
This podcast shares personal 

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stories and professional 
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substitute for medical advice or
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If you're looking for support, 
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and trained in child development
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You'll find the full disclaimer 
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note. 
Wow so fast. 

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We are now in episode 26 which 
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anniversary since we started 
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Together with the aim to have 
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support, inspire and empower 
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needs or children. 
So today we are here with just 

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three of us, no guests, only all
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understand what have we learned 
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reflection and experiences for 
almost 25 episode and close to a

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year. 
There's a lot of recording, a 

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lot of stories, a lot of lot of 
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things that I think a lot of 
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same time. 
So maybe I can start with one 

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question to common, because your
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Looking back at the past year, 
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do this podcast? 
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the same now after a year? 
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So if you have listened to our 
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why we why we start, why would 
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although it's really, really 
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packed schedule and yet we still
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episode, every two weeks. 
It's because I feel like the the

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podcast has benefited so many 
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parents, the therapist that is 
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had this interview with the 
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every part, every recording, 
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something. 
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So the I would say that the 
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this podcast can bless the 
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to drive as, or at least myself,
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another one year for this 
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Yeah. 
OK, so at least there will be 52

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episode up by the end of next 
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We have kind of planned until 40
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achievable. 
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OK, so for those who may not 
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not aware, only two of me and 
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Carmen is the scheduler for our 
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She's the one who responsible 
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we have on the show for the last
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So she's the one who checked 
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all of us find a good sweet spot
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conversation. 
What about you singing after 

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training? 
Continue, continue from Kevin. 

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So I think, I mean, the effort 
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easy to to make to match 
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this is still going on. 
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started this one, of course it's
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me at the very first place. 
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who initiated this. 
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feel like I one year ago, I had 
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Maybe now or so a little bit 
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that I I think because I am not 
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So and also is also very not of 
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there so openly. 
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first mindset, like let's try 
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doing this. 
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team like you, Kelvin and also 
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of your busy time. 
We are all busy people. 

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But still, we, we, we still, I 
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motivation to keep this going. 
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that I've heard sometimes some 
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of it I read it online myself. 
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is also one big factor that OK, 
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us and also trust us and follow 
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to me it's like if there's still
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it's worthwhile my time and my 
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Especially I'm the parents with 
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ensure that the society in 
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country, the awareness, the 
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not to the parents but to the 
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who has to overcome a lot of 
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difficult compared to other 
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accommodating to know that if 
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way that perceive as weird to 
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weird, it's because it's neural 
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management for three of us is 
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our sincerest gratitude to all 
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as busy, if not more busy than 
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of them are therapy, some of 
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the experts in their own area, 
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to juggle multiple 
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their family, their children, 
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very vulnerable position to 
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is really something that we have
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doing all this when is really, 
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a choice to contribute a very, a
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arrange, I feel like sometimes 
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speaker timing, you know, and 
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after this recording session, I 
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much, you know, and if I am in 
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learned so much. 
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also will bless, you know, the, 
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still worth it at the end. 
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like a cycle kind of emotion 
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start this this episode, I feel 
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say, you know, and notice it. 
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like, OK, yeah. 
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learning, we are sharing, you 
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matching the time of everybody. 
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me. 
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Like from the start I have never
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can say what I want to say, like
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conversation. 
I just have this challenge, but 

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I don't need to share it out 
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good partners. 
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the one who to hold. 
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It doesn't become It's not my 
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actually the biggest. 
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the thing. 
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So see, you really improve so 
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to do a lot of homework like 
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Maybe in the end also, I never 
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I think that is one of the thing
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But that's one, one thing that I
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also video editing. 
I have never been that video 

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here, Kevin, to also teach me 
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No wonder you took up the 

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I'm OK. 
I'm OK to to just continue to 

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continue to help out the team, 
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gratitude at least. 
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because he's your son. 
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we are grateful for Aston for 
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I hope he can continue to help 
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all getting more and more on our
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thinking should we not to do so 
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But at the end of the day three 
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What makes us so gung ho to do 
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It's really because of we really
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get more information and inspire
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Very good. 
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far, we have 25, including this 
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You know, some Part 1, Part 2. 
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hell meaningful insightful 
conversations with easily 15 

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guesses or more, right? 
So is there or has there been 

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any memorable conversation or 
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Maybe Kevin, you can start 
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Maybe I can start first, it will
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Also cannot finish because 
almost all episodes are 

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considered my favorite. 
But I know I asked the most 

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memorable conversation. 
So to me the most memorable will

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always be the first one because 
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and is something new to three of
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It includes sourcing for a venue
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everything. 
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to set up because we have to 
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satisfied with. 
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singing the camera was a little 
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to a challenge as well because 
it's like I'm not someone who 

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knows anything about autism or 
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The only thing I have is my 
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like why am I doing this? 
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So I have a lot of question mark
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profession for 10 years, 20 
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something meaningful to do and 
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continue. 
And that's why it's memorable to

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me, yeah. 
Yeah, For me, I think it's a 

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chance that I can visit back my 
previous client, the episode of 

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Andrew sharing about the son, 
two sons, you know, and also the

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sister Celeste to share about 
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I would say that is memorable 
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I really have this chance to 
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again. 
From the time that I left the 

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team, they are still at my 
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now they are much taller than 
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So I appreciate the opportunity,
definitely, you know, and that 

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helps that help us click again. 
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Daddy Eaton got his license last
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So very, very happy for them. 
Yeah, yeah, that that's one of 

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the episode and definitely does 
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But one of these more meaningful
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Nina also, yeah, got a chance to
see Martini at a very familiar 

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environment that I visited back 
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So yeah, it's a, it's a very 
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If you have not listened to this
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father's perspective, I think it
was episode #6 so he talked 

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about his story with Ethan and 
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I remember 1 is that during the 
MCO time when they were crossing

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the road, I think it was keen 
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which was a very horrible 
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And no one should actually go 
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So you can listen back to that. 
And Nina wants more recent 

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episode. 
So yeah, she shared about her 

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experience in foreign country 
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a memorable experience for her 
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And they had to spend, I think 
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police station in a place that 
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language. 
So please, if you have not 

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listened to that and just check 
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lot of good sharing from them, 
which is very truthful and 

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heartfelt one. 
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So thank you, Carmen, for 
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But singing? 
I never forget to ask you. 

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So what's your favorite or 
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Conversation? 
Yeah, for me, the family series 

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always touches my heart love 
when you ask me, I think those 

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stories and the struggles that 
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Sometimes you don't see it And 
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stories can just give give 
strength to other other 

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audience. 
But I also think that meeting so

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many professional in the line 
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appreciate and it's also really 
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though no, we have worked with 
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still there are so many other 
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approaches then that also give 
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no change. 
Sometimes also change in 

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influence the way that I work 
with my current client. 

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So I I think no, all episodes 
are also memorable. 

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But of course that this field, 
this field that I will 

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particularly find it more 
memorable. 

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Actually, there's another thing 
that's considered very memorable

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experience for me personally, 
and I think if I share it, you 

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guys will be able to relate to 
that as well. 

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Do you remember the first time 
we went out for a recording at 

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the Outside, which is with 
Doctor Rajini episode at the 

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hospital there? 
And that was the first time we 

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went out for a recording. 
And the incident was when we 

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want to leave the hospital. 
Then I realized that I cannot 

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enter my car. 
And then we thanks to you guys, 

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you have to bring me around to 
try to buy a battery for my car 

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remote control. 
And then we couldn't find. 

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And then in the end, luckily 
before I called the tow car, I 

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decided to try to open the car 
door with the key. 

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And it turned out that the car 
was never locked in the 1st 

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place. 
No wonder the remote cannot so 

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there was so manyu so there was 
a very memorable in a bed 

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waiting for me. 
But looking bad is kind of fun 

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for must be too stressed like to
record and see Doctor Rajini 

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forget to. 
Look, yeah, so this is a long 

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waiting list, right? 
And yet you can see and some 

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some I also very thankful 
because all these doctors, they 

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are all willing, you know, to. 
To arrange, let us arrange 

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another appointment with them 
either this year or the coming 

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episodes, You know. 
So I think we are really blessed

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with that. 
So these are the things that 

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memorable for us and it become 
part of our life experience, 

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right. 
And definitely I think the 

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podcast or this episode has also
enriched somehow parents or 

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professional. 
So I'm not sure whether you 

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receive any feedback or 
criticism from any listener or 

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feedback. 
OK. 

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I think earlier, I think in the 
earlier episodes I heard about 

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very like it's more like a 
technical issue. 

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Like sometimes the recording is 
very like very echoey, like 

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cannot I I heard feedback like 
that. 

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And then I think along the way 
we also improve in our gadgets 

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and the the things for our 
recording. 

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Then I think it improves from 
there. 

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I think I must say that we also 
learn a lot. 

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We don't start like being like a
really professional editor. 

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The 1st place life. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Constructive. 
Feedback and constructive 

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criticism. 
That. 

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Help. 
Yeah. 

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Yes, the some of the first few 
feedback that I've heard from 

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from the few audiences. 
Yeah. 

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Then we, we, so you, you bought 
a new tripod and then I also 

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have new tripod and then we also
have new camera. 

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And then we also are very 
grateful to receive a 

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sponsorship from Mr. Keith Lowe,
who sponsored our wireless mic. 

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I don't remember the name of the
mic, but it's a, it's a mic that

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has helped a lot with noise 
cancellation and dual channel 

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recording. 
Yeah. 

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So we need more sponsor. 
So if you have any constructive 

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criticism or feedback for us, 
do. 

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And if you can provide a 
solution or become the solution,

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we really welcome you to do 
that. 

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OK. 
Any. 

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Any parents like common and 
singing? 

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You guys work with a lot of 
parents man, so anyone actually 

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comes to you and say that what 
they listen to eat and then 

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better certain episode they can 
relate to eat. 

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So after like for example, after
Nina episode, some parents 

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already start flying and they 
already use use the yeah, the 

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butterfly. 
If I the advice from Nina Yeah 

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so and parents specially came a 
message and thanked us for that 

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yeah and I would say that a lot 
of parents actually gave good 

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feedback due I was after 
faithful episode because that's 

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about self help like I. 
Know all the parents thinking of

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how to take care of the kids you
know. 

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How to train them, how to 
improve them and all these 

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things. 
But a lot of time they need 

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neglect of themselves as a 
parents, right Not taking good 

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care of themselves. 
Yeah, the parents also have a 

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lot of anxiety. 
The parents also kind of like 

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burnt out and in many situation,
you know. 

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So I think that episode is is 
actually I collected the most, I

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would say from from my side is 
actually the most feedback that 

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the parents really benefit from 
that particular episode. 

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But it's a good thing that is 
the one is episode number 4. 

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Episode number 5 is on couple 
relationship and also couple 

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acceptance on the situation and 
challenges by Doctor Day who is 

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a licensed counselor. 
Yeah. 

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And I, Kevin, actually I want to
thank you a lot because you 

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contributed 233 episodes. 
Yeah, in in among this 20 

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episodes, three are from you. 
And really, for me, I would say 

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that whenever I I interview you,
I feel like, yeah, I'm getting 

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advice from someone that I don't
need to pay for the 

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consultation. 
To me, to me, it's like to fill 

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up the episode when there is no 
gas, so I don't mind. 

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I don't this is one of the 
episodes. 

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Yes, No, I think your episode 
because I know that you are a 

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consultant and every hour that 
you spend to consult, you 

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actually can earn, you know, but
I'm so thankful that you share 

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this three episode with us 
without even charging us and 

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giving us so good tips in 
handling financial, you know, 

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and all these things. 
Thank you for saying that. 

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But actually to be, to be exact,
I mean, to be honestly, I think 

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one of the challenges for 
parents and caregiver, we want 

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to provide the word to our 
children. 

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But a lot of time, financial 
consideration could be one of 

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the biggest challenge that we, 
we think that is the challenge 

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that actually stop us from doing
what we can. 

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And eventually we may not be 
able to continue. 

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And therefore, it's very 
important and it's my, it's a 

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blessing that I'm able to 
contribute what I know or my 

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experiences to the audience as 
well. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So you're welcome. 

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And maybe from here it's a good 
time to to also for me to share 

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that. 
That's one thing that sometimes 

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make me feel a little bit 
awkward is like, let's say I'm 

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waiting for my son. 
Then sometimes the parents walk 

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by, then some of them will look 
at me. 

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Then I will be thinking, is 
there any dirt on my face or my 

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shirt is, you know, So then some
of them will be friendly. 

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Now when they was asked, are you
the one who do the podcast? 

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To me, it's like, well, it's a 
surprise actually. 

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In my heart. 
It's like people listen to it. 

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So people listen to it, but I 
have to. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So I have to pretend to be very 

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calm and no, no emotion. 
But actually I'm very happy to 

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know that there are people who 
listen or watch the contents. 

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You don't Remember Me. 
It's fine. 

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But I the good thing is you 
remember some of the invaluable 

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and golden lessons you can find 
there. 

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That's the market, right? 
So therapist that. 

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Yeah, therapist that. 
Tell me. 

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Oh, come on. 
I saw the podcast Cohoes, you 

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know, shopping in which mall? 
Which mall? 

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I'm like wow, seems like Kevin 
is more famous than last time. 

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Really. 
Yeah, yeah, most likely you will

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see me in ice cream shop like 
cafe. 

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OK, OK. 
So so we have come, I would say 

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come a long way, although it's 
not very long, but to us it's 

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quite long because we are like, 
there's no definite target. 

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Like, you know, we will do one 
year and stop or one not right? 

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So and then you have to work 
very hard to keep finding 

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guests. 
And sometimes we have to 

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reschedule because of maybe one 
of our Co hosts not not 

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available or the guest, right. 
So, yeah, if you never said 

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that, I think I've forgotten 
that it's not an easy thing to 

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do actually. 
So thank you a lot, Carmen. 

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And CG also has spent a lot 
hours in editing for sure. 

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So these are a lot, a lot of 
time. 

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And every one of us of time is 
worth a lot of value, not 

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necessarily money. 
And we can use our time to do 

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good deeds, which we are doing 
now. 

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And it's a blessing that we are 
able to do that as we continue 

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this journey. 
Because just now you mentioned 

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you plan until 40 something 
already. 

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So would you be able to share 
some sneak peek like what we can

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expect or what the audience can 
expect? 

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Yeah. 
So this coming year, definitely 

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we will because the first I 
would say that the last year we 

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want to target a bit more on the
earlier stage issue, you know, 

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like diagnosis, you know, what 
is OT about the fundamental 

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speech about and all this thing.
And moving forward, we, we would

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like to, but definitely there 
are some, some topics that like 

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for example, social development 
has not even touched on that 

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area yet. 
So this is all the upcoming one.

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We would, we would still want to
have a balance, a balance of 

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parents interview, a balance of 
from counsellor and a balance of

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from professional. 
And definitely something that we

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add on is I hear from enrichment
like some of the kids they go 

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for horse riding, some of the 
kids they go for rock climbing, 

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some of them they go for art 
class music. 

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We would like to focus a bit 
more. 

455
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,960
Yeah, swimming. 
So this coming year I would like

456
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to focus a little bit more in 
terms of that so that the 

457
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parents, when they choose to 
know what other things that my 

458
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kids can do besides sending for 
therapy. 

459
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,280
Yeah. 
So they have all these people 

460
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who are experienced and they 
will be able to share as yeah, 

461
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why, how this about how swimming
can support and benefit kids on 

462
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the spectrum. 
OK, sounds like a lot of things 

463
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to look out for. 
And of course, if you know 

464
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someone who you think might add 
values and bring values, we 

465
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,320
welcome you to drop in a comment
or you can e-mail to us. 

466
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,720
You will find e-mail address in 
the show note as well. 

467
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760
And if you are a parent and you 
think that you have something to

468
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,200
share, do we do welcome you a 
lot as well. 

469
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,600
Yeah, We will say thank you very
much if there's anyone who want 

470
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to share because that means this
podcast, right, is doing what it

471
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,920
is supposed to do to provide a 
platform and a voice for more 

472
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,680
people to be more understanding 
and to know more about unique 

473
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,040
challenges and the journey and 
experiences that family, 

474
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especially children go through 
and form a community that is 

475
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really caring for each other. 
So I think we've got this is 

476
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just about the right time for us
to wrap up this episode. 

477
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,520
And I would like to encourage 
you, if you have not subscribed 

478
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,600
and follow the show, this is the
right time and the best time for

479
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,360
you to do now. 
And you can also share the show 

480
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,960
to people who you think may 
benefit from it as well. 

481
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,000
Before I say goodbye, does 
anyone have anything to add on? 

482
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,120
Yeah, feel free to let us know 
what are the upcoming topic that

483
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,320
you all want to know. 
Yeah, we would like to create 

484
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,440
more content that, you know, 
close to our audience hire. 

485
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,760
Yeah. 
OK, singing anything? 

486
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,280
No edit more video. 
OK. 

487
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,840
All right. 
So again, thank you very much. 

488
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,920
All right, and thank you. 
So see you. 

489
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Bye bye.