1 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:27,500 Hi Kitty. Hello listeners are. 2 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:30,900 You don't know this about Eric but I know this because I've 3 00:00:30,900 --> 00:00:33,300 been recording with him for over what? 4 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:35,200 Like 100 episodes two hundred episodes. 5 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,300 Now every time we started the podcast air goes through this 6 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:44,300 like odd sequence of Jesus being disgusting what and it's very 7 00:00:44,300 --> 00:00:49,100 adorable discuss is like cough a bunch and then burp a And then 8 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:50,500 wiggle around in his chair. Bunch. 9 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:55,200 And then take a drink and then burps, it's really funny every 10 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,000 time just this onslaught of weirdness because when I press 11 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,900 record my brains like, all right, do all the things that 12 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:04,500 you not going to do during a podcast you know like is your 13 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:05,900 last chance. It's okay. 14 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:07,900 Last chance to pee before there's no rest. 15 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:10,600 Stop for a billions trillions. My get it, it's like and that's 16 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,600 why I find it to be so adorable and humanizing because it's just 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,300 I watch you be like okay I gotta get it all out now, like it's 18 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:19,900 really funny and then I also need The room, sounds the cylons 19 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:21,700 to, to cut out. So it's like that. 20 00:01:21,700 --> 00:01:24,900 And then and then I have to like decide like when are you done 21 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:27,400 making your gross noises and want to return room sounds like 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,700 it's great. Well, that's what I usually. 23 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:30,900 I usually hold up a finger for room sounds and then I start 24 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:33,700 with by Katie. Yeah, except I've noticed that. 25 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:38,100 Oftentimes, the H sound in. Hi, Katie gets is Beneath The 26 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:40,700 Noise Gate because it's just a sound. 27 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:44,600 It sounds like, well, I always sounds like, hi Katie. 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Like at the beginning of episode sound like Dick. 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Van Dyke is why really leaned into the Eh there. 30 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,000 Hello Katie. Hello, it was good. 31 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:53,300 How's it going? Pretty good. 32 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:56,100 You excited to pick up Billy the at the groomers? 33 00:01:56,100 --> 00:01:58,600 Yeah, I keep checking my text messages to see if she's ready 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,100 up but they haven't texted me. I'm glad we got her. 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:07,400 I think deciding what haircut to get Bailey was, I think I want 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,900 to speak. I mean, I'm proud of us. 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,800 I'm proud of us, because So Bailey is a Goldendoodle. 38 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:16,300 Yeah, she's a rescue. Don't fucking add us. 39 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:19,300 She was returned to the shelter like a bunch of times because 40 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:22,700 people who want goldendoodles wanted, like, you know, a trophy 41 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:25,200 and not like a pet and they realized like, oh dogs are work, 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,600 it's more complicated than that, but at least one until one time 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,200 that happened. So anyways she's a rescue but 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,100 he's a Pisces going to go score on the world but she's gold 45 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:35,800 little. She has like curly hair and so 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,000 and long hair. So like she can have like that 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 long floofy, you know, dog show coat thing. 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,700 Brody on Tick-Tock like Brody and Tick-Tock their dog named 49 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:46,900 Brody on. Take my God, you receive 50 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:48,200 anything. Go to golden doodle? 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,100 I don't think so. Okay, I know that this is a 52 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:52,800 podcast recording but I am going to pull up a birdie that, okay, 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,300 pull up pause now. Dear listener, and look up gold, 54 00:02:56,300 --> 00:03:01,500 Brody the golden doodle, on your phone to follow friends, Brody 55 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:04,800 golden doodle. Okay, look at this fucking dog. 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,700 Like this fucking, dog, let me see this. 57 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:08,900 And let me see this animal, let's let me see this. 58 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:13,300 Good one is mammal. Very good, very good. 59 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:16,000 This dog. Oh my gosh buddy. 60 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:19,000 That is a fluffy boy is a fluffy boy as a baby. 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,800 That's a giant like yeah. It's like they don't like size 62 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:23,300 classification. Yeah, giant-sized. 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,900 Yeah. Look at this out, it looks like 64 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:29,500 a the Cowardly Lion. Yeah, yeah, little guy is the 65 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:32,000 best dog. He is really bad. 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 It going down escalators but apparently, like all, dogs are 67 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,700 bad at escalators. I wouldn't let Bailey stand on. 68 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:40,500 I would always pick up Bailey just cause you know, like I'm 69 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:42,000 surprised dogs can even do stairs. 70 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:44,900 And then look at this dog there's a big fluffy guy. 71 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:48,000 Yeah please look up Brody the lab that golden doodle on Tick, 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,200 Tock Brody that's dude. Spelled d00d. 73 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,800 Cool but we are so even think about like, you know, it'd be 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,800 cool if Bailey had like a big fluffy coat like that, you know. 75 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:58,500 Yeah. Just because it'd be cool but 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,200 those take a lot of fucking maintenance and like Bailey 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,600 doesn't really like getting brushed and so it's really hard 78 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,200 for us to like, really do thorough brushing. 79 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,200 I mean, we brush her like yeah, you know, idly all the time but 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,000 like doing really thorough brushing aside. 81 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,100 Ins is really hard when you're an amateur and the dog doesn't 82 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:16,800 like it. And so when we were deciding 83 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,700 what haircut together, I thought I was considering and I think 84 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,000 you were too and I'm proud of us for it like considering 85 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:26,600 Realistically. What can we manage? 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Because I always want a pie in the sky, like, oh well don't 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,200 worry. We'll just groomer every fucking 88 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,800 day or whatever. But it's like we have 21 first 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,800 and foremost you wrote. So I do right by Bailey. 90 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,500 Yeah. You know, and like a big coat 91 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:39,500 like that is only comfortable for a dog if it's really well 92 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:40,400 groomed. Yeah. 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,900 And so it was one of those things where it's like, all 94 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:44,900 right, what realistically, you know, it was like it was one of 95 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:47,300 those like sort of settling moments from sobering moments, 96 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:50,200 when I was like, I have to acknowledge like not just like 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,500 what do I want to do? Like ideally in the worldly life 98 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:56,200 but what am I actually? King of all capable of and I was 99 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,300 like honestly we are not capable of well not not currently, I 100 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,900 mean I'm sure we do but like yeah this moment we're not and 101 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:06,500 also we had to like go to class to like learn how to brush her 102 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:09,100 because there's like a whole special and get are used to it. 103 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:11,300 You know, getting her used to it has been challenging but she's 104 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:12,600 getting better. She sells yeah. 105 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:15,400 Hates getting her face brush, but the rest of it, chilly 106 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:18,000 settle down for ya. Actually, if you bribery out of 107 00:05:18,008 --> 00:05:21,300 the handbag the handbag would you like to explain ma'am back 108 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:25,600 to him back Lynn back. So Possibly the highest value. 109 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,400 Like reward, not the highest but like the highest value reward. 110 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,300 That's like so casual. It's not like a piece of steak 111 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:32,900 from your dinner, that's like cool. 112 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:34,600 Yeah. But like the highest value 113 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,700 reward for dog is kind of around his lunch meats it's really good 114 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:40,200 for dog training. Launch me that's like fucking 115 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,000 prime rib to, they'll do anything for lunch. 116 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Me and so I've been training Bailey aliping like going harder 117 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,800 and Bailey training lately because you were gone at Chad. 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,300 And I was like fuck. I'm just gonna try to shut up. 119 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:53,700 Bailey this whole time and anyways, so I started carrying 120 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:56,600 her Around a bag of ham on me. I like lunch. 121 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,700 Meat ham, just all the time just so I can. 122 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:02,400 If I ever really needed to do something I can use the handbag 123 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,800 but it works great. You know, Bailey will do 124 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,800 anything for the handbag. But the thing is, if she knows 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,800 you don't have it on you, then she doesn't give a shit. 126 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:11,100 Yeah. She like doesn't care. 127 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:13,400 So Katie, you know what I do? You know what to do? 128 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,500 Katie. You probably have in your 129 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:17,600 pockets. Yeah. 130 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:20,300 All right. I do. 131 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:24,200 That was your joke. Yes. 132 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,300 Wasn't it, your kids are with your own hand. 133 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:30,500 When you rub him on you in the pockets of the coat that I wear 134 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,200 II, just put ham like just loose in the pockets. 135 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:50,500 Just look at that. Just loose ham, like Psych. 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,400 That's mine cart to no no not your coat. 137 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:59,800 Plaid one the fiber and also once your coat. 138 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,700 Yeah. But accidentally type, I thought 139 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:03,800 I put a piece of ham back in the handbag but I just put it in the 140 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,600 pocket and it was there overnight. 141 00:07:07,100 --> 00:07:08,900 But now the jacket always smells like ham. 142 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:12,500 So she always thinks I have the ham and then I also will, I like 143 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,000 the first time I did it work glove. 144 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:18,100 Just because, I don't know, whenever it's like gross, but 145 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:19,800 then I stopped wearing gloves because they my hands smell like 146 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,700 ham the rest of the day. And Bailey's more likely to do 147 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,000 what I want but it's a day it's dangerous game because like now 148 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 if my hands smell like ham, then a lot of time she'll smell the 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 him. Go off my hand and there's 150 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,400 nothing in it. So I'm worried that she's 151 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,900 associating the smell of ham with like maybe he has ham. 152 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:38,000 Not like that's the guy with ham. 153 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,100 You want to be the ham guy want to be the head. 154 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:41,500 That's what you want to be with a guy. 155 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:43,100 You wanna be the hammer? Beating him guy? 156 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:45,700 Who's got the ham? I've hey, if you're a dog 157 00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:52,200 trainer, Joel would absolutely should be like Wyatt. 158 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,500 Joel is in the podcast. Joel is Joel is the person who 159 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:57,800 like looks after our dog, when there's nobody else and he's 160 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,900 done some training sessions with her, very good as drop, that 161 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:04,800 jolts want to tick tock as scoob and is co o be a ND. 162 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:07,900 I yes, Siri, good dogs. Are teacher. 163 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:10,000 Good dog trainer. Yeah, we had a handbag dude. 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,300 Can bag it gets Bailey to, you know, I'm trying to like Eric if 165 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:19,300 you were, I'm sorry I just Thought of this, if you were 166 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:23,500 going to have a handbag like for me, what would your handbag have 167 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:26,000 it? Like what is the thing where 168 00:08:26,008 --> 00:08:28,100 it's like, oh fuck. Okay, I'll do it for that. 169 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Yeah, because I feel like this is going to be my cool pivot 170 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,400 into talking about neurodivergent. 171 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,100 See, I was kind of jealous. Yeah. 172 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Okay well I don't know because it's different. 173 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,600 So like sometimes it would be like ice cream for sure. 174 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,900 Because there are sometimes when like I fucking want some goddamn 175 00:08:43,900 --> 00:08:46,400 ice cream, sometimes it would be Sushi. 176 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,400 Okay. I think like I would do, I 177 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,400 fucking love sushi so much. If it was like, Eric if you do 178 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,200 the thing, I'll give you use it on a zero g. 179 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:59,100 And I'm like, oh, Maybe a back rub definitely like a really 180 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:05,900 committed back rub for sure, and then canceling plans casing 181 00:09:05,900 --> 00:09:08,100 plans as him back. Yeah. 182 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:10,500 If it's like, yeah, Eric. If you do this, then you don't 183 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:12,800 have to go to the sink or you don't have to. 184 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 That's very, you know, not all things like something I want to 185 00:09:15,008 --> 00:09:17,700 do but you know if it's like I don't know. 186 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,800 A dumb thing then. Yeah. 187 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:24,500 Why do you ask Katie or Soros? Well, because hey good. 188 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,800 We never got together. It's fun. 189 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,300 It's because I was thinking about external motivation. 190 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,300 Yeah. For people with ADHD because I 191 00:09:33,308 --> 00:09:35,500 feel like in this is I'm gonna, I'm gonna be really honest. 192 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:39,000 I'm gonna I'm gonna say a thing for really long time. 193 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,600 I had some very like, I'll call it what it is. 194 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,900 I had some really ableist takes on stuff like external 195 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:50,600 motivation or like external rewards for stuff and I don't 196 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,000 know why. Like I don't know why I think a 197 00:09:52,008 --> 00:09:55,000 lot of it was just like sort of internalized ableism and Like a 198 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,200 lot of like judgment that I like had put on myself and like not 199 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:03,900 realized that it was, you know, like being like why why would I 200 00:10:03,900 --> 00:10:06,500 judge myself? You know, but I do that a lot. 201 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:10,100 And so then recently I started was thinking about the handbag, 202 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:13,300 I mean, just conceptually the conceptual idea, they have a cam 203 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:17,900 back but I was thinking about like, how like I watch You know, 204 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:20,500 like, I like, I like, I watch a lot of tic, tacs know, I watch a 205 00:10:20,508 --> 00:10:24,100 lot of stuff about, you know, people struggling to get stuff 206 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:26,800 done or struggling to start stuff and that idea of like, oh 207 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,500 well, get sushi afterwards, we'll get chocolate afterwards 208 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:31,300 or like, you know, I'll give myself a piece of candy, or I'll 209 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:32,800 put a star on the calendar, or whatever. 210 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,100 And I used to think that stuff was so silly. 211 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,700 And then, at some point, I was like, well, why am I describing 212 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:41,700 this idea of it being silly. If it's something that works, 213 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,300 you know. Like if it's something that is 214 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:46,500 like helpful and whatever like who am I to judge somebody for 215 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:48,700 Like, you know, having a piece of candy after they clean their 216 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:51,100 room or going to get sushi to like celebrate, you know, 217 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:54,900 finishing the email or whatever. And so then I started wondering 218 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:56,400 like, how many other people do that? 219 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,900 Like how many people deny themselves that external 220 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:02,300 motivation? Because there's this idea that 221 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:04,600 it's like, oh well I should just be able to get it done. 222 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:08,600 I should just be able to do it without the reward or I should 223 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,200 just do it for the sake of doing it. 224 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:13,100 And now I'm kind of like very much on the opposite side where 225 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:16,500 I'm just like treat yourself 2022 every day. 226 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:20,400 All the time you deserve it, you know, and I think the longer 227 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,200 that the world is what it is and like the political climate is 228 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,200 what it is. And Twitter is what it is and 229 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,200 like everything. It's like climate change, 230 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,800 climate change, you know, but really like I sort of look at 231 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,900 stuff and I'm like, we are like we have a society have been 232 00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:38,000 collectively living through like a trauma response for the past 233 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,800 like four years with, like, frankly, no end in sight. 234 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:45,300 And so it's like, you know what? If you fucking need some sushi 235 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,300 to like, On to the email or to put a star on the calendar 236 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:52,400 because you did the dishes fucking good for you, good for 237 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,300 you for finding a reason to like, you know, do the thing. 238 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,800 But I just I don't know. Like I spend a lot of time 239 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,600 thinking about how long I just didn't. 240 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,600 I did that to myself because I was like embarrassed to need it 241 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,000 or I was embarrassed to want it and then you know, Bailey just 242 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,500 got a handbag and doesn't care. You know, she's like yeah I mean 243 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:14,300 I know there's a difference between like a neurodivergent 244 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:16,400 person and a dog. I want to be very clear about 245 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,500 that but like they've done studies. 246 00:12:19,900 --> 00:12:21,800 But like you know what I mean? It's just, it's just that idea 247 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,000 of like Just denying yourself something because it quote 248 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,700 unquote should be another way or suggest be easy or something 249 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:30,700 like that. And I feel like we do that or 250 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:34,200 like at least I feel like I do that a lot to myself where I 251 00:12:34,208 --> 00:12:37,400 will purposely be like I could reward myself but instead I'm 252 00:12:37,408 --> 00:12:41,300 going to like weirdly like reverse punish myself for like 253 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:42,900 not doing it. Yeah, I know what you mean. 254 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:45,200 Yeah, you're shooting yourself. Yeah. 255 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,300 Like oh I should be able to keep my office clean. 256 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:49,900 So then when I clean it, I don't give myself a reward because 257 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:52,300 it's like, oh well I should have just done that to begin with and 258 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:54,500 it's like now. Do you still accomplished 259 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:56,000 cleaning the office? You know. 260 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:58,400 I don't know where I was going with that but notice you but 261 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,300 like motivation. Yeah, well I thought of a dumb 262 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:03,500 thing in the middle of that, that I think is kind of silly 263 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,900 why I have a hard time with that, just because self-control 264 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:09,500 like from like pretty early in my life. 265 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:12,400 I realized like oh the things that I'm not allowed to do. 266 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,300 It's not that I'm not allowed to do them. 267 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,000 It's just that I have to be willing to pay the consequences. 268 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,200 This is like I am like it's not a matter of can and can't it's a 269 00:13:21,208 --> 00:13:24,900 matter of cost like like I am allowed to sneak out of my house 270 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:27,600 whenever the hell I want. So long as I'm willing to then 271 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,300 be grounded, like it's costs being grounded for a week to 272 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:33,700 sneak out of your house at night like murder is not illegal. 273 00:13:33,700 --> 00:13:36,200 If you are willing to pay the price of whatever the 274 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,500 consequences of that in the being. 275 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:40,100 Okay, this is why I'm sorry. Is that a stable? 276 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:43,400 Don't murder people. But I was there's this new show 277 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,600 that just came out called Inside Man and it has David Tennant and 278 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,200 call. I can't remember Stanley Tucci. 279 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,100 I want to say one of those. Yeah, Stanley Tucci but there's 280 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:56,200 wine in it that just says, everybody is a murderer. 281 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,700 You just haven't met the right person yet. 282 00:13:57,900 --> 00:13:59,900 I thought that was really funny. Anyway. 283 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:01,600 Sorry. Well, that's funny. 284 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,100 Well, I just everything's better cost so when I'm like oh I you 285 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:11,100 know I can eat sushi after I clean my room or my officer, 286 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:15,300 whatever you like, or I could have sushi right now. 287 00:14:15,500 --> 00:14:18,500 If I'm willing to pay the cost of not having the clean room, 288 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:20,200 you know, like peace. You know, you're writing the 289 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,500 rules up in this piece, you know. 290 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:24,600 Like you can you don't actually have to wait until you're done 291 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,200 to eat the chocolate or whatever and that's the part. 292 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,500 I always had a problem with I was so aware that it's like, I 293 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:31,700 am artificially. I think Yang it. 294 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:34,100 Yeah, that's why I've liked. Come up with Contraptions and 295 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:37,800 shit for like not not physical, but just like in my head of like 296 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:42,400 a safe that only opens once every so long I think was when I 297 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,200 was quitting smoking, I was like, okay, I'll build a safe 298 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,500 that dispenses exactly one cigarette a day and that's it. 299 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:51,100 And so like, Artists like we could just go buy more like, you 300 00:14:51,108 --> 00:14:52,500 know, there's always a way around it. 301 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:54,800 I think that's the hardest part. So there's always a way around 302 00:14:55,100 --> 00:14:57,400 so it was also linked in terms of training Bailey. 303 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Hmm. So like in dog training, not 304 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,900 that, I'm a dog trainer but like you know I watch videos and shit 305 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:06,800 because yeah great and dogs are the best. 306 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,300 But so there's a there's a big part of it is the value of 307 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:15,500 reward so like a piece of kibble is a very low value reward 308 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,300 better than nothing, but it's very low compared to like a 309 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:20,400 piece of ham. Am so, like, with Bailey, it's 310 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,800 sort of like, kibble, a treat, like, like a bag treat piece of 311 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,800 ham, and then like, something from the fridge, like a piece of 312 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,000 chicken or something like that. And so, when I was reading her 313 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,400 to like, drop the ball after she would fetch. 314 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,300 Like so she would fetch the ball but then she would run back and 315 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:39,700 then she wouldn't let go of it. You have to like Paul and she 316 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:41,800 would play tug-of-war and you'd have to like do the snout thing 317 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,700 together to drop it which one is obnoxious. 318 00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:48,500 But also with your hands in the way that they are like that 319 00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:50,500 limits, the amount It would be better if she dropped it and you 320 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:52,200 wouldn't have to fucking pry it out of her mouth. 321 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,600 Okay, so I was working on getting her to drop the ball 322 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,800 after that. And so I started with just all 323 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,600 highly by value rewards. Every time she does, she gets a 324 00:16:00,608 --> 00:16:04,200 piece of turkey and shield. You fucking anything for a piece 325 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,500 of turkey or ham depends. I think it's become the eve, 326 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,800 whether it's turkey or ham. It's still the handbag still 327 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,100 Hammond, still a handbag, so she'll do anything. 328 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:17,600 And then I started and the first time I did it, like the very 329 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,900 first time when I was like, I have he and then she got a thing 330 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:22,000 and I brought back, I gave her a fuck ton. 331 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,100 I give her like, too big so I like just jackpot at her like, 332 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,700 yes. And then I would give her like a 333 00:16:27,708 --> 00:16:29,700 rag, like just a little piece, a little peaceful piece and then I 334 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:31,700 give her another like fucking jackpot. 335 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:34,100 It's so cute. Kissy knowing our dogs you know 336 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:36,800 ended up. Yeah no most definitely and so 337 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,800 now I have mixed in so it's either turkey a piece of kibble, 338 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:44,900 a treat or nothing, it's rare. I just randomly choose or as 339 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:46,200 much as close as I can to randomly. 340 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,300 I just like reaching I can just grab one and so For her. 341 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:53,000 It's like, you know, it could be nothing, but it also could be. 342 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,300 And so now even the idea is so that when I give her nothing, 343 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:58,800 she's not like the whole point is that show that she doesn't 344 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,500 come like that cover anything, like that's the other. 345 00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:03,900 So if you see Erica packs, you please ask him for a piece of 346 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:08,800 ham from his pocket. I will have am in my pocket but 347 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,500 yeah, no, I'm Casino where because of the ultimately I 348 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:12,200 wanted to do it whether or not I have trade. 349 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,800 Yeah. But if I just go from giving her 350 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,500 treats to not giving her treats that you what the fuck where 351 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:18,900 were the turkey go? But if you like Slide the scale, 352 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 Dale. And like even if I'm if I do 353 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,599 like like if it was like a whole day we're fetching and I don't 354 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:26,000 give her anything once during the day, I'll just give her a 355 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,500 big fucking thing a turkey. Well she does. 356 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:29,300 So she always knows there's a chance. 357 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:32,400 Anyways I'm like trying to mind fuck myself in the same way. 358 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,300 Like how do I do that to myself? Yeah, you know Drive make I 359 00:17:36,308 --> 00:17:38,900 could make a slot machine and like every time I finish a 360 00:17:38,908 --> 00:17:42,400 thing, I get to pull the slot machine and it could be a thing. 361 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,900 Or it could be like a I don't know, little doodad punishing, 362 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,000 that's fun. That's kind of fun. 363 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,700 Yeah, also babe Hmm this podcast is about to take a weird hard 364 00:17:53,700 --> 00:17:56,000 left. I think they make safes like 365 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,500 that. Eric they make safes then open 366 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:01,500 once a day that open at a predetermined set of time. 367 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,300 Well they do that. They make those. 368 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:07,900 It's for a sex thing but they do make those Super King thing. 369 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,500 What's the king for? It's in the state haven't heard 370 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:12,300 of this. What? 371 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:20,400 It's okay, some people Eric enjoy, certain, I'm trying to 372 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,700 figure out how to say this without like, getting it will 373 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:25,000 just put it in closer reading. Yeah, it's right. 374 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,800 So over episode of this, for sure, it's for like dick cage 375 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,400 stuff in the safe. Oh, yeah. 376 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:34,000 Or for like, yeah, for like, predicament bondage or stuff 377 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,300 like that. But we did that well. 378 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:36,900 Now with it. Well, we did with a collar. 379 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:39,800 I think once it was worried, I had to call it. 380 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:41,600 We do. There's a while ago, this was 381 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,900 like, I don't even remember a year and a half ago, I think it 382 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:48,700 was because I was I think it was when you're in California with 383 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:52,400 me and then you were leaving and I was like sad and so I was like 384 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,700 you know you I put the collar on to like remind me of you and 385 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,700 that's how you know whatever but then you were like, it was the 386 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:02,100 one with like the lock on and you were like you can't. 387 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,600 You're like it's unethical for me to like actually lock you in 388 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,800 a second like take like obviously I can't do that. 389 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,600 She's like however what if I hide the key? 390 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,600 I know those really smart. I do I bet you, I don't know if 391 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,300 you like five on the spot but you're like a hide the key and 392 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:17,800 that way when I need to get out of it when you're like I'm going 393 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,600 to shower or whatever you can but you have to call me like so 394 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,800 then I'll know if you took it off. 395 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,400 You know Kink is a weird life. Everybody, if you're living this 396 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,000 podcast, you're probably okay with it. 397 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:30,700 Anyways, I thought that was cool. 398 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Yeah safes. Yeah, I think that'd be cool 399 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,800 like a little, it's like a slot machine. 400 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,300 Yeah, that some conditions have to be met to be able to like 401 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,900 pull it. And those conditions are like 402 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,100 task-based. Yeah, the like it's a way of 403 00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:45,200 gamifying. Tasks. 404 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,400 But if it was just a certain time, it's like half to do the 405 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,900 thing before you put, like, how do you proud of the machine know 406 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:53,100 that the kitchen is clean? Like you could have somebody 407 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:56,400 else like the Arbiter, like, you know, if it was me like you 408 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,800 could, well I think that's it or something. 409 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:04,800 When I mean, that's that's like the real problem with being 410 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,400 self-aware and needing external motivation like when you 411 00:20:08,408 --> 00:20:10,600 struggle with like just doing it for the sake, of doing it, 412 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,800 because it's like, there's always a fuck it out. 413 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:14,800 Yeah. There's no you know I mean and 414 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,700 it's Honestly, not to make this like a king episode because I 415 00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:20,700 know we explicitly like let's not talk about cake. 416 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:21,800 But like yeah. Here we are. 417 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,600 But it's like I but it's the same thing for like a lot of 418 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,400 like relationship Dynamics. It's like I know that I don't 419 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,100 have to so like why you know, like why why would I fucking 420 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:35,600 bother? You know, what do you have to 421 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,300 what look like, you know in like in like a like, you know, 422 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:42,400 submissive position. It's like I don't have to. 423 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Oh yeah. And I'm not like a make me 424 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:47,100 person. I'm not like I brought in that 425 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:50,400 way and not like a make me brat because I'm like, okay, you know 426 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,200 what I mean? Yeah. 427 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,900 And there's always that s like it's the eye watching. 428 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:57,600 I watching I watching I yeah because it just like it just 429 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,000 like but that's like what it like motivation has always been 430 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,800 like for me, it's like they're like oh you can have a piece of 431 00:21:01,808 --> 00:21:03,800 candy. Well, I can't, yeah, but I could 432 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,800 just I'm an adult. I could just go walk and take 433 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,500 the piece of candy and so it's like figuring out how to like 434 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:14,100 Not overthink that like middle part of. 435 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:16,400 I'm just really just do it just talking, you know, clean the 436 00:21:16,408 --> 00:21:18,600 room or whatever and get the basic handy but instead I'm like 437 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,900 well I could just go buy candy. Yeah, I could fly to Paris right 438 00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:25,500 now and get a piece of candy, like I could literally do 439 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:27,000 whatever, you know what I mean? Like. 440 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:29,900 And so it's just, I don't know. I get I, that's one of my 441 00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:31,900 biggest things is just motivation because it's like, I 442 00:21:31,900 --> 00:21:35,700 have to be motivated, but I talked myself out of being 443 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:37,900 motivated because I think it's embarrassing to need to be 444 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:40,600 motivated to do stuff. Huh. 445 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,300 There's sorry I'm going to Crossroads here. 446 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:45,800 I'm like, I could either just bring up what I was going to 447 00:21:45,808 --> 00:21:46,800 bring up? Where I couldn't. 448 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,000 I'm sorry, I keep like, tell them every oh no sweetie. 449 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,100 No, of course not. Yes, good. 450 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:59,800 Yeah, I think something I have a constantly wrestle with for 451 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,900 reasons that I could like probably talk to my fucking 452 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:07,000 therapist about its really How do I say this? 453 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,900 I used to take great pride in thinking about stuff. 454 00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:11,900 I still do but I used to take great pride in it. 455 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,600 Like in a, I'm better than you weigh, you know? 456 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,500 Like when I was like a teenager and so I always thought thinking 457 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:21,000 about something, it's always better to think about something 458 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,800 more because I was, you know, was an arrogant 459 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,700 fourteen-year-old. It's like wanted to feel like I 460 00:22:26,708 --> 00:22:32,300 was better than nobody else but as I've like gotten older, I've 461 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:37,400 realized more and more that sometimes The answer is to think 462 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,800 about something less it's or not at all. 463 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,200 Sometimes, just don't think about it. 464 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,500 Like it's not, it's not useful to think about it and I think 465 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:49,600 sometimes like wolf an example is like, alright, I get the 466 00:22:49,608 --> 00:22:51,300 piece of chocolate after I clean the room. 467 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:54,200 Well, I know that there's nothing stopping me from just 468 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,900 grabbing the chocolate like, and if I, the more, I think about 469 00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:59,000 it. I could easily think myself into 470 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,100 just taking the fucking chocolate. 471 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:03,600 Anybody could, if you just sit there and think about it and go 472 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,500 like, oh well, I actually I think be more motivated. 473 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:09,600 If I had a little piece of chocolate now and then I 474 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:11,400 introduced you need to see the whole it whatever. 475 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,700 Like you can think yourself into any sort of behavior and so 476 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:16,200 sometimes the answer is thinking about it. 477 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,300 Last deciding what you're going to do, like, I'm gonna need to 478 00:23:19,308 --> 00:23:22,100 talk about everything the room and then stop thinking about it 479 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,000 like that is resolved. Like that's what it is. 480 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:25,600 I'm not saying that. I don't want to say that from 481 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,300 like a position of I'm great at that. 482 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:32,700 I'm not but I think it feels impossible to me like I'm such 483 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:36,400 an over-thinker and like, I just constantly Self analysis of the 484 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,800 analysis of the analysis. The like, you know, so like for 485 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,600 me what I've actually found is like especially for like tasks 486 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:49,700 is less about the reward and more about like gamification in 487 00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:53,900 the moment so it'll be like Oh I'm going to put on music and 488 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,800 I'll just unload the dishwasher for as long as the song and then 489 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,400 I can be done you know, and most of the time it's like if I get 490 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,000 going and I'm like, okay, I've 3 minutes and 30 seconds to 491 00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:04,700 unload, the dishwasher will be half done and I'm like, well, I 492 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:05,900 might as well. See the rest of it, you know 493 00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:07,700 what I mean? Like, that kind of thing but 494 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:11,100 that for me works better than like, oh, but at the end, I get 495 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:14,300 a piece of chocolate. And so, I think that's one of 496 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:19,800 the ways that I've sort of like, Discovered that like because I 497 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,200 tend to overthink and I like what like think myself out of 498 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,100 being motivated, that just deciding like on a thing like 499 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,500 that, or I'm going to set the timer for 15 minutes or like 500 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:31,000 whatever is you can't cheat that. 501 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,400 Like it's just like, you know, I mean and you can talk yourself 502 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,100 out of that like oh well I did you know, 10 minutes and that's 503 00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:38,300 good enough for, you know, like stuff like that. 504 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,600 But even that is still like that's still 10 minutes of 505 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,300 cleaning that you wouldn't have done before. 506 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,700 But so like that to me, helps a lot is just Like gamification or 507 00:24:47,708 --> 00:24:51,000 like, how many things can I pick up in this room right now? 508 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,600 And like, you know, just like little mini sort of games that 509 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,900 like you just play with yourself? 510 00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:57,900 Like, you know, find all the garbage on the floor before the 511 00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:00,500 song ends or whatever. Like the only way to answer that 512 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,900 question of can I pick up all the garbage on the floor before 513 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:04,700 the song ends? The only way to answer that 514 00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:07,000 question is to try. Yeah and to do that like you 515 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,300 can't eat the chocolate book just before it cleanly. 516 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,700 You know you can't go around that the only way to get the 517 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,800 satisfaction of answering the question of, can I do this 518 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,400 before the song ends is to try? Yeah. 519 00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:20,600 Yeah, that works for me, too. I've also noticed when I was a 520 00:25:20,608 --> 00:25:24,500 kid, I used to walk home from sixth grade and I would listen 521 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:28,400 to music because iPads were like just coming out. 522 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,100 I think I don't even know if they were, I don't cares. 523 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,600 But and I was like sometimes I would like to walk home. 524 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,700 Sometimes I would read it and some to try to like on the days 525 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:41,800 when I was dreading it and like fuck. 526 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,000 I have to walk all the way home to make the trip feel shorter. 527 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:50,900 I would pick a song that I didn't know if it would finish 528 00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:52,600 before I got home. You know? 529 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,900 I mean so like it's all pick a song that's like a such 530 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:58,800 adoration such that. Like I'm not quite sure if I can 531 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,700 get home before the song ends or yeah. 532 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:05,800 Before the song ends. So then I'm like oh shit I'm 533 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,000 short on time like it forced my brain to think of there's a 534 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,500 longer thing happening. This is the shorter thing or the 535 00:26:12,508 --> 00:26:14,000 thing that we're trying to make sure, you know. 536 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,900 Yeah so it forced myself to think we're like on a car When 537 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:19,100 you say like we don't have enough time to watch The Lord of 538 00:26:19,108 --> 00:26:22,300 the Rings, like that makes it feel shorter. 539 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,300 So like a lot, anytime I can do that type of thing with a task 540 00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:28,900 is great. So like how you know can I do is 541 00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:31,800 before the song, it's then it's like then it becomes like God if 542 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,800 you do this for five whole minutes, it's like I only have 543 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,300 five minutes, you know, turn it, just flips it in my head, which 544 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:40,600 is funny, which reminds me of, like, how simple our brains can 545 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,400 be. I mean, they're obviously really 546 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,000 complicated, but for all like the over thinking, like, oh, I 547 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,400 can just like be like, hey, Eric I bet you? 548 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:47,700 Can't do this five minutes? No. 549 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,900 Would you do kid? No no man. 550 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,200 Like oh wow. It was that simple. 551 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000 Like okay, that's I'm an ape chance. 552 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,700 Righteous were bored. Exactly. 553 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,000 I like I want to make like a YouTube series that's just like 554 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,700 a series of like weird time incremental like cleaning 555 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:07,900 challenges like put on like Hall of the Mountain King and then be 556 00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:09,800 like find all the trash in your room go. 557 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:12,800 That's it. That's the whole video. 558 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,600 That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's like are going great, 559 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:22,300 TM TM, TM TM TM TM fine fine look I know it's a good one. 560 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,100 I think that's why that like the the timer thing where it's like 561 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,500 I what's the smallest amount of time you can force yourself to 562 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:32,400 do a thing for That really works. 563 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,500 I feel like in the opposite way. We're like, I'm trying to see 564 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:37,200 how long it can be, you know. Like I bet I could, I bet I 565 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,600 could do two minutes, you know, or whatever, but by making it 566 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,700 deliberately easy, you know, being like 30 seconds, you know, 567 00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:46,200 then you crush it, then you get, you get a win immediately. 568 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,800 Like, fuck it. I did it for 30 seconds and then 569 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,100 you get another, and then, then you've eaten the ham, then 570 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:51,700 you're like, ooh, hams good. And then you're like, all right, 571 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:53,600 I'll do another 30 seconds and then you do and you're like, 572 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,200 fuck. Yeah. 573 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,800 I fucking got a piece of ham, you know? 574 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,000 And you're just so rather than a bunch of time, it's just stacks 575 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,700 of 30 seconds at the end of each one. 576 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,400 One, you can. And at the end of each one at 577 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,000 the end of which you could stop you. 578 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,600 Yeah. Is that this, the why you would 579 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,100 say that? Yeah, I mean I'm I know what 580 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,400 you're trying to say. Yeah. 581 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,300 Yeah, yeah. That also helps tends to tends 582 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,600 to work for me and it's like, yeah, game ball game advisor. 583 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,900 Yeah. I also like the playlist idea. 584 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,500 Yeah, that's a really good one. I just thinking of like what? 585 00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,700 Like now I want to like put together a playlist and it will 586 00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:27,500 wake. What kind of what kind of songs 587 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:28,800 do you think? Well, because that's, the thing 588 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,500 is, like, because I want it to be like, you know, I'm thinking 589 00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:34,800 is like a content creator because I would like, put like I 590 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,900 would put like hyper specific music on it, you know, but then 591 00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:42,300 it's like, I don't know if people would be like, ah, fuck, 592 00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:43,800 yeah. Else's processional to the 593 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800 chapel like, hmm. Let's go. 594 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,300 You know, like I feel like you need to just On some like Taylor 595 00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:53,900 Swift and call it a day. Well, hang in restaurant 596 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:57,200 Benchmark that I was working in is really small restaurant. 597 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Really small crows, like, usually just like three people 598 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,800 in the kitchen, the time and are like, all right, it's like an 599 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,100 hour and a half before service. We're all like, making sure 600 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,900 we're fucking good. We have like our height playlist 601 00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:10,300 which was full of music that I never thought I would listen to 602 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:12,000 and much less. A never thought I would enjoy, 603 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,100 but it was just like all I do is win, win win, no matter what, it 604 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,800 was just the most like high-energy. 605 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,900 I'm the Shit, like I'm the fucking bat. 606 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:23,700 It just all the songs that are about like, how awesome you are. 607 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:26,300 Just play those and fucking work, dude. 608 00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:29,600 Like it's just it's really hard to like I don't know. 609 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:33,600 Not be like going when it's like when we went and in that song 610 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,500 they go everybody's hands go up. And when we would do that, no 611 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:39,300 matter what we were doing, we all put our hands up and it was 612 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:41,600 really funny to watch like my chef who was kind of like a 613 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,900 quiet guy, could be kind of emergency, sometimes like you 614 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:47,000 would be hunched over like, you know, breaking down a fish or 615 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,700 something and all of a sudden he would just Let's go over here. 616 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:54,600 Put his hands up and it's like, well, that is nice. 617 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,200 The conference playlist confidence. 618 00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:57,800 I like that. Yeah, maybe that maybe. 619 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,700 That's what I'll do. I'll make a Spotify playlist and 620 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:02,900 well, yeah, we make it public. Yeah, we frankly. 621 00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:04,800 Don't cool time. Oh, yeah, playlist. 622 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,100 What's a, how do we have a status on this dog's hair cut 623 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,700 situation? I figured she's probably so 624 00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:14,200 excited to see her face. No, she's gonna have such weeks. 625 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,500 We told him to cut. Oh I've heard you really never 626 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:18,000 know. So we ended up deciding to get 627 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,700 Bailey A shorter haircut. Yeah. 628 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:23,700 Is what that's the what I meant to say in the beginning because 629 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:25,600 it'd be more comfortable for her given. 630 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,000 What? You know she likes to just rub 631 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000 her face in the ground all the time and so I think it'd be more 632 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,500 comfortable for her but she, we're gonna be able to see so 633 00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:34,000 many more little facial expressions. 634 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,100 She's got a little facial eyebrows. 635 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,600 Yeah, dogs have eyebrows bad. But no, they have not yet text 636 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,800 us, we don't have a 1. So 1 to 2, 2, to 3, 3 to 4. 637 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,300 So we should probably get it and like 10, 15 minutes or so 638 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,100 usually takes about three hours chandan. 639 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,000 That sounds great. How do you add? 640 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,400 Hey, very cold dude, it's the holiday season did. 641 00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,600 Oh, yeah. And you know what the holiday 642 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,000 season is dead. 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Working on it. 699 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,100 Are you really yeah? Oh yeah! 700 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,000 Wizard! Yeah, it is my turn. 701 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,100 That Eric, once you get to a certain point, you can just sort 702 00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,800 of ask people to and they'll be like, okay, that's true. 703 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,000 Yeah, this is Hank, true anyways, everybody. 704 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Thank you for thinking, okay. Do you want to do a little cool? 705 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,200 Little sweet, outro circular hey, everybody! 706 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,800 Thanks so much for listening. And before you leave just a 707 00:33:53,808 --> 00:33:56,700 couple of reminders, please remember to use back up, you do 708 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:58,200 snacks. Please remember to take a breath 709 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,600 during this holiday season and appreciate those around you. 710 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,500 Please remember to drink some water? 711 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Please remember to take your meds. 712 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,800 Take a meds. Please remember to be kind to 713 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,500 yourself. We're kind of just be kind of 714 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:22,000 others and remember that will be kind of yourself. 715 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:23,600 Okay. Bye. 716 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,699 Is that voice? That I don't know is that it's 717 00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:28,000 like a D&D.