I'm going to talk to you. I had something that you have
something. Yeah, I was gonna say.
Do you know what, I get by with a little help?
Wait? No shit.
Do you know what I get by with a Little Help from here on out for
my friends? I thought I had to like a really
good. Well, it's because of the
episode title Katie. What's the episode Time?
It's we haven't thought of yet but it's something to do with
asking for help and having ADHD. It's probably going to be I get
by with a Little Help from My Friends.
You think so probably because you've made that joke, so now
it's the probably since it's going to be immediate payoff
from the title. Media payoffs not asking, I'm
asking for. Help is hard to do, you know
something it is? We're talking about.
Hi everybody. It's me.
Katie. Surprising icsi alone.
It's me. Hey good, welcome back to
infinite Quest and in request. That is like, I love it.
That's never like funny, but it's always funny.
It's like it continues to be I just make it be done every time.
Well, I wanted to talk about we wanted to talk about but I want
to talk about this week asking for help with ADHD as your help
in general, but you know as people with ADHD asking for help
because it's a hard thing to do. I was thinking certain thing
times when you ask for help, like if you're if you're not
tall enough to reach something on a Shelf.
That's like objective. So it's like I'm not tall
enough. Therefore.
I'll ask somebody who is tan, unlike the Tada but a lot of
things times when we have to ask for help because of ADHD.
It's something that is much harder to identify as like
objective. It's something that like we feel
like we shouldn't have to ask for help with like you're not
tall enough to reach something out on a free something.
But like who's to say that I couldn't just do my dishes
myself rather than like ask for you to come over and help me.
You know, I think I think it I think it has to do a lot with
With the way things are quote unquote, supposed to be done.
Like, I like, I want to be very careful because I want to, I
want to say very explicitly going into this conversation.
Like, I'm talking about my own experience, like, and your
experience May differ, and that is totally okay, but, like, I
grew up sort of internalizing this idea that there was like a
correct way to do with it. Something there is a correct way
like one specifically. True and good and correct way to
do things. And so if you did them outside
of that, correct way, then it was wrong and there is something
inherently wrong with you. But the problem with that is
like, Nobody ever told me what the right way was supposed to be
is like laundry, right? Like laundry is a really good
example because I'm going to talk a lot about laundry this
episode because I tend to really really struggle with it.
But it's like I grew up feeling like there is like this one
secretly correct way to do laundry, and if you didn't do
your laundry in this like right? And correct way then like you
were doing it wrong, but then like, at some point I realized
that like, know everybody. Like, I mean, there's like the
functionality of like put clothes in the washing machine.
Them into the dryer. Like okay, we all do that.
But even that can be done in different ways in different
configurations, and a different times, and, and all different
things. And so this, like, So asking for
help for me has always been really hard from a combination
of both feeling. Like I just never got the memo
about how I was supposed to do it, right?
So then I felt foolish for like, needing to ask for help or
having to admit that, like, I'm struggling enough.
That I need to be able to accept the help.
You know what I mean? Kind of yeah.
Well it also it the idea that like there's this correct way of
doing it that you haven't gotten the memo, you know of that
method. It also adds a certain level of
whatever the opposite of immutable is.
We're like, oh, I don't need help.
I just haven't done the work. Yet the work of figuring out
what the correct way is or the work of finding somebody to
fucking tell me or something like that.
It's always this like It's all rooted in.
I'm just not good enough. You know, I'm just not good
enough to figure out what the right way is or to ask someone
what the right there, correct person or whatever.
You know, I'm just not good enough.
Therefore I need to ask for help, which I think is a really
bad thing to have popping around in your brain.
And I think, I think I'll comes down to that, moral the value
judgment, the moral judgment that we impose on not knowing
Like the quote unquote. Correct way to do laundry.
The correct way for Amy dishes. I like really struggle with
dishes and asking for help isn't like a giving in to, like, not
being enough. It's the realization that like
there's no such thing as not enough.
It's just life is meant to be enjoyed, and we have to do
certain things sometimes to make it easier to, to enjoyed there
to enjoy and sometimes that involves asking for help.
Yeah, I mean and and I think too for me a lot of asking for help
involves sort of Have you honestly kind of having to do,
like a Fearless assessment of oneself and like realizing the
places where, you know, I do admittedly have like, actual
shortcomings, you know, and one of them is like, I have terrible
clutter blindness. Like I will just let the I mean
look, her look around, you know, like I will let things get to a
point of like absolutely out of control and then by that point I
go. Oh my God, I'm so So overwhelmed
and then I'm so embarrassed. And I'm so, you know, ashamed
and I feel so guilty that I'm just depressed about it.
So then I don't want to fix it. But then the other component
piece of that too, is like I'm not a patient person.
And so when it comes to things like, you know, okay.
Well, I'm going to declutter the office.
Well, that means now I have to figure out a place for
everything if it doesn't already have a place and if it does
already have a place, The statistical likelihood that the
place where that stuff is supposed to go, is also covered
in clutter and so that it just becomes a sort of like chain
clutter reaction and that's really frustrating.
But that's also a place where like looking at it logically.
I was like, okay. Well I can get help with this.
You know, I can ask for help and so But it's hard because it's
still this idea that it's like, well, I should be able to do it
by myself. I shouldn't have to have
somebody come in and like, you know, teach me how to organize
my laundry or teach me how to, how to do, you know, whatever.
Quote-unquote adult, sing there is but I also think like It's
okay. If you need somebody to teach
you, how to do that, because like we're not inherently born,
knowing how to do the laundry. Like we're not born, you know,
having a really good handle on what is the most efficient
system for us to manage our clutter.
And so putting that expectation on ourselves that we're supposed
to magically do it on our own and be able to figure it out.
Without the aid of anybody else is like weirdly backwards to the
way that I think we tend to live the rest of our lives.
You know? It You don't know how math
works. So you go to school, you know,
and you become a person who generally understands math.
You don't know the history of the world, you go to college and
you learn about the history of the world.
So why is there such like a? I do want to say negativity, but
like a hesitancy towards Asking for help for like laundry and
dishes and and, you know, like cleaning your blinds.
Apparently, you're supposed to clean your blinds.
What? Yeah, is it impossible?
Yeah, there's like, it's like a little duster that Esther guy.
Okay. Yeah, but apparently you're
supposed to clean your, but it's like once a month, what?
No, not. Like, we ever told me that like,
the ceiling fans, y'all like silly pads, get Dusty long as I
did not just about us. He always forget.
Well, then that's a problem is, like, my ceiling fan is like
really dirty in the bedroom right now because I always
forget it exists and that I look up and I all right.
Fuck. They were later in the entire
room feel like a desert during a sandstorm for a little bit.
Dude, you could. Dude, - dude, for me.
At least, I think we saw one of some of the reasons that it's
really hard, is asking for help is sort of to invite an audience
to this shortcoming of yours or this the situation that you're
not happy, but you're inviting another person to come.
Look at your laundry room, or your sink full of dishes, or
whatever it is, which, you know, whether or not it should or
should not be embarrassing, you know, we can't control all we
feel all the time. We rarely can and so it just
feels embarrassing and so I think some of my has it He is,
he just literally having another person, look at it, because I
mean I live alone, so I can kind of hide some stuff.
But like if you come over and help me with something.
I'm now showing you, you know, I'm literally my dirty laundry.
It'll look like Wonder all your laundry is just like black
t-shirts. So it's a big but I keep it
down. It's just like a shadow in the
corner. Three, right?
That's that was the strategy. All along another one.
I think it's sort of like, what we talked about last week about
getting to know yourself is Before somebody knows about
before you ask for help. It's sort of like, you know,
when you say something out loud, it feels real, you know, if I
say like, I don't know like I don't like chocolate ice cream,
you know, I'm even thinking that for years, but now that I've
said it that's like true about me, you know, that's like a
thing that has been said it's in the log.
So similarly I think asking for help is To not deny what the
circumstances are like or is it to move past denial about
circumstances? And I think a lot of times
again. I also want to clarify that I am
also speaking about my own experience.
There's a lot of denial for me about my Tendencies and my
struggles with with cleanliness and, you know, time organization
and whatnot, for the longest time.
I like to not admit those things about myself and And, you know,
asking for help as a form of admission because I didn't want
them to be true. I wanted to believe that I could
become a person who was epic, it doing their dishes and the
cleanest most organized motherfucker on the planet.
Like, I wanted to believe that I could just become that person
and that, you know, to Reference last week's episode, like that
character, trait hadn't been filled in yet, you know, and I
was just deciding what I wanted it to be.
And to ask for help is to admit. Now, like, I really struggle
with organization, you know, but I think there's a lot of relief.
Not. And when you ask for help,
you're giving permission to whoever you ask for, help from
your, giving them permission to ask for stuff, for help.
You're giving them permission to ask for help with the things
that they need help with your normalizing, asking for help
with things like dishes and whatnot.
I mean, I know we keep talking about dishes and laundry and
stuff. But those are very particular, I
live but whatever. The thing is, you're, you're
increasing the, the normalcy of that, which I think is a net
positive. Yeah.
I mean, well, in this also, I just realized in this.
Moment right now, I forgot to tell you this, but literally,
the organizers are coming back tomorrow.
What? Yeah, because it looks like
speaking of asking for help. And speaking of last week's
episode. Like I had this like moment
where like and I want to be very clear because like I really
struggle with, I think do it by yourself, is a, you know, like
this idea that like the only valid way to like do the thing
is too like suffer through it and do it yourself.
And like, Bad person. If I don't, you know, fold my
laundry or whatever it is, but the problem is that like, you
know, speaking of last week's episode.
Like, I am a person who deeply struggles with finishing tasks,
like whatever the task is like I get halfway through and
something happens, or my schedule changes or like
whatever. And I carry a lot of guilt and a
lot of Shame about this. And so one of the issues that
I've been having is, I've been making a cognizant effort to Do
better about like washing laundry regularly, like, like,
I'm going to do, you know, load of laundry, you know, once a day
or whatever, but the problem is that like, my schedule is so
busy. And now I've lost weekends
because of the Renaissance Festival.
I don't often have the time that I would like to finish that
task. And for me, the hardest part is
putting the clothes away. I can wash them.
I can dry them. I can I can pull them out of the
dryer, you know, put them in a basket, whatever it may be.
But Hang them from the laundry room.
To the closet is really and truly.
It is a difficult task and I keep standing in the laundry
room going like, it's just clothes, just pick up the
clothes, just pick, you know, whatever.
And then it's, you know, I pick up the one pile and then another
giant pile Falls over on top of that pile.
And then it looks worse than before.
And now, you know, there's three suitcases of laundry that I
still haven't done from the last time we went to it, you know,
like all the stuff and I finally had this moment where I was
like, like, Like, I admittedly have the privilege of being able
to ask for professional help, in this capacity.
And so, I reached out to the organizers and I was like, Hey,
so full disclosure like a lot of what you did for me.
Last time really worked but a lot of it didn't, you know, like
a lot of it didn't stick. A lot of it has sort of, like,
gone back to seed as it were. But one of the things that I
really struggle with is, It's just laundry.
And last time, the organizers came.
I worked really. I was really proud of myself.
I got rid of like several garbage bags, full of clothes.
Like I got rid of a lot of stuff.
And so that made my closet more empty.
But it also meant that everything in my closet was
fucked up because I had gone through everything to like, you
know, figure out what I wanted to get rid of.
And so I reached out to the organizers and and Ruth who runs
the company. She was so great.
She's like, oh, yeah, we can come back at and she's like,
especially now because like they'll be room in your closet.
Like we can really work to figure out a system that works
for you in order to make sure that like it's not going to keep
happening, you know, like because sometimes you have to
like go through the Clutter, get rid of this stuff and now, okay,
now we're going to start in a system that works.
But what I'm going to do, Eric is is I need the laundry room,
cleared. And that's like the
insurmountable task, but I'm going to put racks.
In the laundry room. Nice.
I'm gonna build shelving in the laundry room.
And I think what I'm going to do is I'm going to make you Casey
Davis. I'm going to put pins in there
and then that way, like if I'm doing laundry, I can just sort
of sort and have stuff just like there and not have to worry
about. Okay?
Now it has to get back to the bedroom.
Now it has you can fold it now. Get that can all sort of happen
organically in the space where it's just sort of been stuck
because there's no workable area.
Yeah, and so that was sort of like the help that I'm you know,
giving myself or whatever it may be but it's hard, you know, it's
hard because like I have to call up a team of strangers and
they're very nice strangers, and they're very non-judgmental
strangers, but they've already been here once.
Like, that's the other thing. It's like so now they're coming
over and they're going to be like, oh so you really are a
fuckup like and I know that that's not what they're going to
say. Like they're going to be kind of
they're going to be supportive and they're going to be
non-judgmental. But in my head like not only did
I have to hire them a first time but now I To bring them back
because that's how much of a fuckup I am.
And I hate that. I hate that.
That's how my brain thinks instead of being like, wow, good
for you for asking for help and good for you.
For like, finding a solution that is going to offer you like
long term sustainability. My brain is going like you are
an absolute fuck up and now like the literal people that you
called to help you. The last time, they're going to
know that you're a fuckup and that is stressful.
Yeah. Well, so when I feel like it's
probably necessary to point out first.
It off valid, but I think it's necessary to point out that when
worse, when we talk about, asking for help.
We don't necessarily mean paying someone else to do it.
No. No, I have a friend like by, you
know, it's in my specific case. I'm choosing to hire back the
organizers because it's just efficient, you know, but it's
like money and you're giving the business and everybody, we had
their a small local business like, you know, like they're a
great company. And so I'm like hell.
You know, yeah, but like, you know, you have also offered many
times to just sit with me and, you know, go through my clothes
with me and we just haven't, you know, found the time.
But like that's just as valid valid, you know, it's like you
don't have to hire the maid service, you know, you don't
have to spend money in order to accept help right there.
Health can come from a lot of different ways and help can look
like a lot of different things, you know, like, I mean Shadow to
an and moon who are we don't deserve and they are the
greatest people in history. But like, you know sitting on a
zoom call and body doubling that can sometimes be as much help as
you need in order to complete whatever task it is, but you
still have to ask your friends. Like, hey, would you mind you
know, sitting on this Zoom call with me?
Would you mind coming over to my house?
Like, whatever it may be. So there still has to be the
ask, and I think the ask can be The scariest part.
Yeah, because you have to decide to do it.
Yeah. Like you in deciding to do it is
the admission that you need help.
What do you think is the hardest?
One of the hardest parts from you?
I'm just really interested because you suggested this
episode. So I'm wondering if do you have
like a specific moment in your life when you can think of that
you were like, holy shit. Like I really am going to ask
for help. Yeah.
Well, I mean honestly, I think the best example is when you
know, my laundry thing for me is my dishes I Really like even one
dish in my sink. Just I don't know what it does
to my brain, but it freaks me out and having having you help
with that is I think probably the biggest example in my
everyday life. Now what the re one of the
reasons I want to talk about. This episode was help, can look
a lot of different ways and I think a very useful necessary
thing to do for people in general, but also has an ADHD
Patia. So particularly with people with
ADHD who Often need help with things.
That a lot of people don't need help with help.
Can look a bunch like, a bunch of different things.
Help can be Outsourcing something.
Like if you have the money to pay someone to paint your fence,
you know, you're supporting a local business.
They get paid to do what they're good at they win you win because
you've, you know, you facilitated the painting of the
thing, you know, like ultimately obviously you didn't literally
paint the fence, but you facilitated it happening, you
know, like that's a perfectly valid thing to Film.
But also asking for help can literally be like, when I was
moving to Georgia and I had to pack up all my shit, like I
would just call you and you would just be on you know, my
phone you'd be on like a Facebook call, you know, we
didn't even necessarily talk to you were just on the Facebook
call like body doubling that can be a form of help.
A big one is just asking for somebody else to tell you to do
it. That's a weird one, but that's
worked for me quite a bit. Like will you tell me to do my
dishes? Like, I need to do.
My juices. Like I just can't get myself to
get out of the seat. So just so many things like
Eric. Now.
Why don't you go do dishes look good idea.
Like I'll go do that. So help can be all sorts of
different things. And I think it's essential for
any given person. But again, particularly people
with ADHD to take accurate objective, and not judgmental
stock of what tools they have at their disposal and those tools
can be other people. Now, I want to be color, don't
objectify other people, people are not just tools for you to
use, but a lot of times people fucking like to be People.
Like, if you ask me for help your that's a win for me too,
because I like being helpful. Like it makes me feel good to be
helpful. Like, selfishly.
It makes me feel good. So if somebody I love like you
or you know, somebody else I love asks me like hair.
Can you like sit on the phone with me while I do this or hair?
Can you just like, tell me that it's okay to, you know, I don't
know by this massive steak that's on sale at Costco and
freeze half of it because I don't to go shopping for the
next month, whatever it is. Is like, I get, I feel honestly.
I feel honored that they reached out to me.
Now. This isn't the case with
everybody. I mean, you have to judge your
relationship with this person. Honestly, if I called somebody,
I worked with 10 years ago and said, hey, will you sit on the
phone with me while I cook dinner?
They might go what you know, but again, that's why I got just
thinking of taking objective and non-judgmental stock of what
tools you ethically have at your disposal is really important
because it doesn't have to be a full-blown Outsource of somebody
else doing your laundry for you or having somebody else paint
your fence. It can be as Three small things
just as people saying, hey, you got this or something like that.
All those are extremely valid and useful forms of help most
feature free. I mean, welcome to the academic
science corner, with Katie asaurus, but science Corner,
time kids did it, did it, did what?
I mean scientifically like we can track like based on a lot of
the research that has been done about ADHD lately.
The a lot of times the difference between success.
And quote, unquote failure in a lot of places, especially
surrounding the conversation about executive dysfunction is a
support system. And but like you said a support
system can look many different ways, you know, a support system
can be, you know, hiring a cleaning service to come in once
a month and just, you know, clean your blinds or like,
whatever or it can be, you know, organizing the zoom calls or
whatever, but for people with ADHD.
Scientifically research, wise being able to both create and
then, you know, maintain a support system is one of the
most vital things in terms of avoiding stuff like substance,
use disorder, even like stuff like Sleep disorders and stuff
like that because it's like if you are taking care of yourself,
you are are less likely to turn to unhealthy.
Coping mechanisms and coping strategies in order to, you
know, feel better about the situation that you find yourself
in. So it's like, literally, like
asking for help. Is healthy, like, asking for
help is, you know, is a, is a tool in the ADHD toolbox.
Just as much as like medication or you know, therapy.
I mean therapy is a type of asking for help to but you know
what I mean, like being able to say hey, I really need help with
my dishes. Can you come over and you know
watch TV with me or whatever like that is.
Its it turns out that's like really really important for the
ADHD brain to have Yeah, and yeah, I think one of the reasons
I keep using the word inventory, is a lot of times it's hard to
figure out what that the necessary help or the useful
help is in the moment because in moments when we need help, we're
not our strong. Do you know where we need help?
You know, and so it's hard in that moment to think what do I
need right now? What could make this situation
better? So something that's very helpful
to me is either mentally or better physically in some way
literally. Writing down the tools that you
have available to make a given task to facilitate a given task.
So like for example, Eric's dishes.
I got Katie coming over and just like watching Cake Boss or
something. While I do it because body
doubling helps a lot Katie coming over and putting away the
clean dishes. As I dry it.
Text it with sorry that these all involve you.
But you're like the only person in my life, right now, texting,
Katie, and just like asking you to say, hey, you got this or
something like that, listening to podcasts, you know, like, oh
I This, you know, positive America or whatever.
Like, I can listen to, while I'm doing my dishes, having those
like logged, and ready to go. So that in those moments, when
you need help, you don't have to, you don't have to think of
it. You have to conjure it out of
nothing. One of them are useful things.
Someone, if somebody ever said to me, I think, was a therapist,
a while ago, said, in the moments when we're strong, we
prepare for the moments when we're week.
And I do not want to assign a value judgment to strength or
weakness. I just mean to say that in
moments, when you're needing the help.
It's not always the easiest thing to figure Her out, what
the necessary help is. So in moments, when you're
feeling kind of good, just you know, when you're feeling good,
about your mental health, your having a good mental health day.
You're taking a walk, you know, maybe had a good breakfast or
something on now. Think like huh, dishes.
What can I do to make dishes easier Lottery?
What can I do? Make laundry easier, you know,
for example, for me music. It's really hard for me to work
alone. And it's really hard for me to
work without music. Like, I need want to either one
of those things to help me work and so, like, having speakers
that are loud enough for me to like play Smooth.
Jazz. Why?
Like tidy up, like that's a little thing.
But I know that about myself now and it's very hard for me when
I'm struggling to do a task, do the dishes vacuum the floor,
whatever it is fill out respond to emails or whatever.
It's hard for me to realize in those moments like, oh, I'll put
on, you know, John Coltrane. And that always seems to help.
It's hard for me to remember that in the moment.
But since I've like, done the thinking beforehand, I can just,
I gotta go home and clean, make sure I have music ready to go.
You know, it's because I've already done that thinking, it
also brings. You back to my, like, kitchen
days of do all your thinking, at once, you know, think about what
you're going to set up before you do it.
So that you don't have to organize all that stuff in those
moments when you need help. But so having sort of a Playbook
or toolbox like ready to go to help you in those moments, is it
can be very helpful is kind of dorky.
But you know, it's also dorky some of my favorite people.
So what I was talking about you, well, you are dorky and it's
amazing. I don't consider your consoled
by any stretch like, okay. I'm I am proud of how much of a
dork is. I feel like this is this is
going to be a weird thing, but I'm okay with it because I know
that one of the most important things that ever happened to me
and in conversation, with with, with asking, for help was just
literally feeling like I had permission like, you know, it
was okay for me to ask for help. I wasn't a failure for needing
to ask for help. I wasn't a fuck up because, you
know, I didn't know what help I needed.
So Eric. Yes.
I want you to go first. Mmm, but to the listeners to our
dear listeners, who are sitting out there going like, oh, but
I'm embarrassed to ask for help or I feel bad for needing ask
for help. I don't want to be an
inconvenience and I don't want to be a bother.
What do you say to those people? Hey, it's okay to ask for help.
It's okay to ask for help. That's it.
I mean, I mean, it's okay. That's for help that help might
not accept it, you know, sometimes they're going to say,
oh I can I got, you know, roller skating lessons or whatever.
I can't come over and help me with the dishes.
And that's fine too. But that doesn't mean you're a
bad person for asking. It's okay to ask for help.
Okay, it's totally fine. There's no correct way to do
this life thing. As long as you're not hurting
other people. Okay, do what you got to do to
make your life, something you like.
Katie, would you like to go next?
What do you have to say? Sorry.
It is funny. I set you up for that question
and then did not have a thought in my brain.
You don't need what I'm going to do.
I'm going to say it like this and this is going to be maybe a
weird way to say it. But here we are one of the most
frustrating Parts about having ADHD and one of the most
difficult Parts about having ADHD, I think isn't be executive
dysfunction. It's not the, you know,
rejection sensitivity. It's not the ADHD itself.
What it is. And again, I'm just speaking
from my own personal experience, but it is the feeling of
learning over and over and over and over and over and over
again, ad infinitum that you can't do stuff like other
people, or you don't think, like other people or you do things in
a way, that doesn't make sense to other people.
And oftentimes, when other people are involved, Loved those
other people for Better, or For Worse, cast, judgment on what
you are doing and how you do it. And so somewhere, along the way,
again, at least in my experience.
You learn to feel like a bother, you learn to feel like an
inconvenience. You learn to feel like there is
something inherently wrong with you, because you struggle with
the dishes or the laundry, and it's so easy.
And maybe if you just tried a little bit harder, it would You
know, you can just do it and you wouldn't need to ask for help.
But sometimes asking for help is the most powerful thing that you
can do because there is there's no one right way to do anything.
And so asking for help doesn't make you an inconvenience.
It doesn't make you a bother, it doesn't make you a failure.
It doesn't make you a bad person.
It doesn't make you anything. But a person in that moment who
needs a little bit more support, who needs a little bit of
guidance on, you know, the best way to do your laundry.
Or whatever it may be. You are not an inconvenience and
you are not a bad person for asking.
And so, if you are sitting with with, you know, uncertainty or
anxiety about, you know, reaching out and asking for
help. Do it.
You are allowed to ask for, help asking for help is part of the
process of Being Human. It is part of the process of
living your life, and so on. Not asking for help is
counter-intuitive to growth. It is counter-intuitive to
finding better solution that is counter-intuitive to finding
better support and better systems because the person that
you ask for help or, you know, even going on to YouTube and
saying, you know, different ways to do your laundry, you might
find the right way but being able to admit that you need that
extra support like that. That's not being a fuck up.
That's that's powerful and that's important.
That turned into a speech. I'm sorry.
It was great. That was like not like real
heated up. That's how I was really just
talking like freshman year in college Katie.
That's about that. See that was for.
That was for myself more than anybody else.
Thanks Katie for talking about. I really need to talk about that
because I don't know. I feel you.
We did a whole clean my apartment thing the other day
and I was trying to film is about knows like what do I feel
bad about that? So I just want to talk about
that, huh? I really had fun cleaning your
apartment. On radio Mayday.
Looked all nice, put on some music, put on some someone on
some tunes TV about fixing up. Cars was consumed water colors.
Oh, yeah Stan put the Gotham Garage thumbprint on stuff.
We made a day of it, but it is super fun.
There's spider webs and all the cars have a single cards that
allow. Mm-hmm.
Every single one. Well, anyways, thank you so
much, dear listener for listening this episode.
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That's right. At least two ukuleles.
Angela, leet is a guitar, but we did realize at some point that
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The chaos was just just astronomical was if there is a
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I've been wanting to do a musical number episode for a
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Is that the line headed? I think it's moves, moves moves
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Anyway, so the long patreon episode will be heard along
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I don't know. This is fun.
Let's know. We need to get on off book.
That means, Ethical podcast. So yeah, and I only and then
make friends with the, I'd forgot what I said.
It was really good. Well, thanks for listening,
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Well, thank you so much for listening.
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I know it's really late. We should tell them about
something. You still about the new thing.
The new things are, you sure? But yeah.
All right. Should we should?
We should tell him about it because I'm that way.
We gave me. This is a weird time to be the
best, but it's - she's probably tired fan who kind of stuff.
It's fine. We're starting a YouTube show.
Is that the one that thing you were talking about?
Is he working titled? I want to say very specifically.
We're going to make one episode, right of this project.
That we've had an idea for, for a while and see how it goes.
We're not committing to anything because, remember, how well,
Katie, and Eric did do stuff when it went real good for like
2 episodes and then we never did it again.
Well, I also to move across the country.
All thing. But yes, the it's gonna be a
YouTube show, working title Who and the what, where, when we're
basically kto source and I answer strange questions through
research and Hands-On process stuff.
For example, Excalibur, our King Arthur's sword, who would have
made that sword. What would it have looked like,
where would the steel have come from?
Why would somebody Lodge it in the stone?
If we do you Lodge a sword master?
Yeah, we'll get right feasibly to explore where the myths came
from. We also explore like literally,
where would that? That sort have been made who
specifically would have made it if you were to go back in time
and eat bread with Queen Elizabeth who would have what
would have been firms that have been the first.
Yes. And what you say, you don't have
to go back and don't do that. I mean, really, she's been
around for a minute. She has Jesus Christ.
Like who would have made that bread?
Does that species of grain still exists?
The machines that made that Brent, that would have made that
bread, still exist grain shortage of 1595 impacted the
cost of that loaf of bread. Exactly.
So, Katie will be doing, but I did, I just know that.
Have my head, it's fine. Then, Knowing Me Knowing, You
know, I'm just not surprised. Like, that's interesting.
That's awesome. Well, I'm not surprised that you
wouldn't know something like that.
It's okay. You'll be doing sort of a
historical research stuff talking to the people.
I'm hoping to make stuff that I'll do.
You don't have a permit has all the makings.
That's true. It's just like to say that for
the record. I'm Wars all the more focused on
the process, trying to figure out if the machine.
Is there any replicas of the machines?
That would have done, it still exists and I'll go find field
trips, the keepers of the knowledge, and hopefully they'll
show me how to make the bread or do the stuff.
I mean, we'll both have our hands in both, but that's sort
of the tone of it. It's gonna be like MythBusters.
Yeah, Meats. Good Eats.
Yeah, Meats. Ruth got been like if we lose
good men and Alton Brown teamed up it mixed with the book.
What if by Randall Munroe? Yeah, and also, if you work for
Netflix and they're like, holy shit.
That sounds like such a good, somebody difference just yet.
We are open to offers. Yes, and we frankly don't know
which there are three YouTube channels in the mix.
There's there's Katie sources YouTube.
There's hey, goood YouTube and there's infinite Quest YouTube.
I don't know which where We live a lot of infrastructure.
But anyways, go follow those three accounts just so you
always see the stuff forever gets posted.
So yeah, you should work on, /k asaurus.
Hey, dude, and you got the idea speaking of we're going to go
buy some cameras because you're going to have multiple camera
angles for this. It's going to be a little joint.
It's gonna be LaJoie. We're buying lighting.
Yeah, we're buying we're building a think we D oublie
have already letting. But yeah, we're gonna use like,
wood and saws and nails and stuff to build a studio.
Oh, it's gonna hash I'm gonna we're designing a set.
Yeah, it's going to be joke. Still stuff can be real deal
stuff. Anyways, thank you so much for
listening. Stay tuned for that project and
we will see you on Thursday. Goodbye.
Bye. Oh, wait, we forgot to this.
Hell, yeah, dude. Hey.
Hey, remember to drink some water.
Remember, take your meds. Remember you to snack?
And remember, to be kind to yourself and kind of others.
I almost forgot. I don't know, huh?
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