Also there is a paper that is called Elbow.
Oh yeah, elbows and assholes. The anal work ethic in Alfred
Hitchcock's Psycho and I will be reading that.
Wow, this is. Hi, everybody.
Welcome back to Infinite Quest. Hi, everybody.
It's me, Katie. Yes, Hi.
Hello. It's me.
Hey, good. Welcome to a new season of of
Infinite Quest. It will be all about buttholes.
Welcome to Infinite Quest Season 3, all about buttholes.
Oh boy, is that a? Is that A tag?
I feel like we could cut that part and put it after the
credits at the end, you know, because.
That was a lot. That was a lot that went so
hard, right? So I feel like we can't use
like, yeah, we might have to put it at the end and then like
content warning. Content warning, yeah, because I
also feel bad for Anne. Hesh, Yeah, you know, because
I'm. But how is that?
Now, the original lady from Psycho, right?
That was the remake. Who is the original lady in
Psycho? Phyllis Diller.
No cats. Geraldine Ferraro.
Janet Lee Leg Vera Miles. I don't know it wasn't.
I don't know which one gets famous.
Right. I mean, she was super famous in
the 60s, but I don't, you know. Also originals.
You know that like a lot of people don't know who, like
Katherine Hepburn and Jimmy Stewart and Carrie Cranton, I
like. Barely do, frankly.
That's well, you also have a unique ability to check out of
movies and I think it's your ADHD versus my autistic need to
complete things 'cause you will just walk away from a movie.
And that's fascinating to me, 'cause I cannot do.
I will walk away. From yeah, like I've tried to
show you the Philadelphia Story like three times and every
single time you get bored, like 12 minutes.
Lala land too. Yeah, Lala land baby driver.
That's another one. You.
Just lost cause a couple tries, yeah.
I think a couple tries, yeah. Well, I mean, movies are scary
to me in general just 'cause it's, it's, you know, two hours
of perhaps having to sit still. That was a big like how I think
now. So we've been in LA for three
months now and this is the longest that I have been in the
house with only an ADHD person in like 4 years.
Three years. Because I've been with you and
Chris for a while and Chris doesn't have ADHD.
So when we're watching a movie, we're the only people going on.
I forgot the thing thing. So like I have something to
contrast it with. But now that I've been in LA for
three weeks or three months and only living with you, who also
has ADHD, like it takes us a long time to watch a movie.
Like I'm noticing it is very common that we it takes us two
or three attempts. It's weird because I think it
also depends on how, how like emotionally invested I am in it
because like the other day, this is this is a very specific
example. So the other day you've been
singing that fucking song from Family Guy, but it was a, it
was, it was a parody of the piano lesson scene from The
Music Man. Which scene from Family Guy?
Brian, I think your standards are ridiculously high.
And then Brian goes, I'd rather be alone with someone who
doesn't get me. Blah.
And that's all.
And I was like. That's why they knew which
scene. That's a reference from the
music player. Yeah, nobody knows that scene.
They know the Family Guy. I'm sorry I'm being a joke.
So I tried, dear listener, here's what happened.
I tried to show Eric and he was like he I don't know what you
were looking for, but you were looking for something very
specific. And so I played it and I just
watched you pay 0% attention to it the entire time.
But I was like, really enjoying it because this is like a thing
from my childhood that is like really important to me.
And you were just like looking for stuff.
And I was like, that's fine. And it was just like, really?
Funny, what do you mean by looking for stuff?
You were like looking for something.
I really, I thought we were in the car.
No, we were. We were watching it on YouTube,
on the TV. Oh well, what do you I we
listened to that song in the car or no, we listened to a
different theater song. It was.
I don't. Remember which one that what
should? What should What do you get?
What do you get? Oh yeah, the yeah, the opener,
the railroad. Yeah, I think we listened to
that. I'm mentioning them up, but I'll
also point out books that you did just say those words out
loud. I watched you not pay attention.
So I'm curious, when you're watching me not pay attention,
what does that look like? Can you be more specific?
Yeah, well, I mean, I'll tell you where I'm going.
With that if you want that. Because I, we, we have talked a
lot before, but like here on TikTok or wherever that like an
idiotic person very often can either pay attention or look
like they're paying attention. You know what I mean?
Like if I'm looking at somebody. Paying attention, that's the
thing. Well, that's the thing, isn't
it? Yes, I say what?
Like if I wasn't paying attention then I wouldn't know
the song now just I tried to do, I tried to do a Rain Man, I
didn't. Then I wouldn't have all of the
lines. Member about them apples that's.
Right. Goodwill Hut No.
But it's here. But I mean, obviously I don't
have a melody because it's the same where his family got.
But I do remember then they'd go into a duet at the end.
Was it? Was it was it all my opinions
and advice? Good job.
And then the other woman go OK maybe I wasn't paying as much
attention as I thought. I'm sorry.
Well I don't consider the lyrics to.
I think that's The thing is when I listen to music I listen to
melody 1st and lyrics second. And since I already associate
the lyrics with the Family Guy episode, I wasn't really
listening to it. I was just so like I feel like
I'm familiar with it but I'm not cuz all the lyrics in my head
are Family Guy lyrics. That's like a Weird Al Yankovic
has ruined so many songs. Oh yeah, I can't ever sing
American Pie. I always have to sing the Jedi
version. Yeah, absolutely.
So am I. Bologna.
Amish paradise? That's another one.
Classic. That's that's when I think of a
Weird Al song. That's the song I think of.
See, my first one is the Jedi American Pie.
That one. 'S really good in there.
Yeah, I remember like a. Long, long time ago.
Yeah, she's far away, OK. Here's like some deep, deep
cringe core. Kate Lord, I am old enough that
I remember printing out the like, I was like a kid.
But I I heard that song and I thought it was so goddamn funny
that I printed out the lyrics from the Internet.
And I took them upstairs and I forced my parents to listen to
me sing it to them live because I thought it was so funny.
And they were very polite in letting me get all the way to
the end of the song. But I still remember that I was
like, printed out like crappy, like print.
You know what I mean? That is.
Delightful it was. So awkward I.
Think I did that with I was in a show called Ellis Island in like
4th or 5th grade that was written by the music teacher at
our school Miss Kemeny, which shout out to Miss Kemeny.
She was great. I know this is not like she
wrote a whole she was awesome. She wrote a bunch of shows that
we did, which at the time we didn't realize like how much
effort it takes to write a 1A show, but 2A show that can be
done by like. Middle schoolers, we.
Were elementary school was my God.
Yeah, the oldest people in the world were 9 and 10.
So she has to write a play that also scans when done fucking
terribly by 10 year olds. So like, I mean, what a weird
assignment douche, right? Like, wow.
OK, so if they do it right, it's going to be great, but they're
not going to do it right. So it's like a game theory
thing. I don't know.
Oh yeah. I remember I used to sing parts
of that in front of my friends. Now I think of it, I, I did a
decent amount. I remember I did a dance to Ba
ba ba. I did like a dance my
grandmother got me. Now five I think is what it was.
Now that's what I call Music 5. And that song opens with a
violin, violin intro. And then I remember I listened
to that much of it and went and I told Grammy or somebody told
Grammy that I didn't like the CD and and then I listened to it
again and I let the song play through and it was ba ba ba ba.
I mean, it was a life changing experience hearing that song,
obviously, obviously. And so I just remember Grammy
coming up to me and laughing, seeing now that I now liked it.
She I remember I, I can picture her face, seeing her smile and
like she would have tapped me on the shoulder and go you, you
thought I would buy you Grammy music.
She said specifically that you thought I would buy you Grammy
music. And I think that's because what
I call it is Grammy music. I.
Believe many of those songs have won Grammys.
Oh. My God how did I not?
I think that song literally is a Grammy.
Did hey Siri did? What is the name of it?
Is that song called Bye Bye Bye Just?
Called bye bye bye. Hey Siri, did the song Bye bye
Bye bye *NSYNC win any Grammys? And **NSYNC never won a Grammy.
That's that feels like like Leonardo DiCaprio waiting for
his Oscar. I know dude, they might sound
crazy but it ain't no lie. Baby Well, aren't they like
going back on tour? Are they?
I don't. I swear to God they were like
going I've they were, but they're doing like Tide Pod
commercials now. Well.
I mean, you gotta, you know, yeah, you gotta pay your bills
as you read. Sync 2025 tour question mark
Johnny Wright hinted at Reunion Tour and Sync 2025 tour NSYNC's
comeback. Yeah, and Sync goes live on
stage in 20 days, two hours, 5 minutes and 10 seconds.
Gosh. Can you believe that *NSYNC paid
us 15 bucks per 1000 views to plug their show, their new tour
in their podcast? Can you believe they did that?
I don't because they didn't put a record.
Is it? But it's like it's not their
website. It it feels a little fake weird.
But also Speaking of Seth. I've gone too far down this.
I'm sorry. I'm bringing it back.
I was going to. Say, Speaking of Seth
MacFarlane, how you have you been doing in LA?
Pretty, pretty good. I guess I'm sorry Katie is not
working for Seth MacFarlane. I just thought I'd be.
I was curious what you would do with that segue.
It just took me a minute. I was like, huh, Yeah, the.
Joke was that there's no how. Am I doing in LA?
I'm doing really really well. I am still struggling with
creator burnout, I think, but this has been really edifying
and I think really educational. And I feel like we just need to
do like, a Kate and Eric update corner.
Yeah. You know what, how far into the
we're only 15 minutes. Well, I would have said 1/2 an
hour. Well.
You like started over a lot of I guess.
We did, yeah. I still don't know what the hell
we're going to do with that. 6 minutes maybe.
Maybe you've already heard it. You're listening.
Put. It on the Patreon maybe, which
we still have. Which we still have.
And shout out to anybody who has stayed on the Patriot.
It actually has been helpful. And I know we suck at saying
thank you and stuff, but you know when you're.
Thanks for need. Gas on the road and stuff.
It's nice to be like, oh that's right, the infinite quest card.
Yeah, it's been really help us. Move to do more infinite
question. Which we are now officially
doing well what I. Think is cool back in.
The swing of it, yeah. Over the last year, what I think
was uncomfortable, but also, you know, good in, in, in its own
ways was I think you and I started developing in our own
directions, like sort of independently from each other,
which meant less infinite quest shit and, and from, in my case,
less like public online shit. But now coming back, like, I
don't want to just tell anybody what you have going on, but
like, you know, I, I have an entirely new career that I'm
engaged in and that's fucking awesome.
And yeah, you know, along with all the other stuff we're
already doing the whole time, it's like, yeah, anyways, but.
Yeah, it's like we've, I think it's true the whole time doing
stuff and now the doing of the stuff is common backgrounds.
Like we wrote the book, we wrote the book.
Which we should have a published date for, like we were supposed
to get at the end of last week, yeah.
We we actually planned the year come back because we thought
that we would have a date for the publication of the book, but
we don't still. So we promise though, at some
point we will share that news with you, I feel.
Like I'm fucking lying at this point.
I. Know me too.
I feel bad. I feel like we're just like, Oh
yeah, my book that lives in Canada.
Yeah, exactly right. You know what?
I mean you. Know.
No, we went to summer camp together.
She's totally real. Like I just, I, yeah, I'm like,
I don't know. It'll be.
So it'll be really nice to get a publication date.
It should be in the next couple of weeks.
Dear listeners. What if this is the funniest
fucking thing? Well, the UK, the UK by the way,
dear UK listeners, but also coming to you.
And the word color will have AU in it just for you UK citizens.
And curb will be spelled with AK.
It's just confusing. Just cause and you'll pronounce
the word herbs. Herbs.
I bet we say the word armor in the book.
I can't remember a specific instance where I wrote the word.
I'm sure that we say herbs, and so technically speaking, when we
do the audio book, we'll have to say herbs.
Herbs and aluminium. Aluminium.
That's another one. And vitamins.
And medical bill question marks. Health insurance question mark.
What's health insurance? I was saying you mean the NHS?
OK. Yeah, that's cool.
I feel like we should bring out like a skeleton with a wig on
and be like, look, it's our book deal.
Like the whole time the book deal has been this skeleton with
a wig on that cuz a psycho you know?
I didn't get that one but I appreciate it Or.
Like imagine a person being who talks about like their friend,
like all the time, and you finally come over their house
and then and then like their. Friend all.
Yeah, yeah. Or like a an orange or
something. Like a murder.
Oh, hi, Frank.
Yeah. Like, that's our book deal,
yeah. That's what our yeah, it kind of
feels. Like the book is out and it's
like a piece of I. Would say I don't know if you
saw but this very day, this very morning we got an e-mail from
the UK publishers and we started reffing.
Too hard for me to convey this information.
Oh yes, they are planning for a mid August 25 release.
That's and so that seems like probably around like I would
imagine they come out around the same time, unless it's like
where they, you know, we released it like a week earlier
in the UK for test audiences, but I don't know how many of
that works. I think that might just be
movies too. Also, I don't think you know.
Movies, they come out earlier and how do they deal with
spoilers really? It's so easy for somebody to
just, you know, UK tweet which is.
Sometimes they change the versions.
Professional podcaster Katie, a source, left her phone on noise.
What a bitch. How long do you think it's been
since we last looked at the time?
Like 4 it almost. Exactly.
Yeah, it's been 4 1/2. I was curious.
I thought I'd been that. Felt really low.
I lowballed myself. I was going to say like 9 but I
was like that probably is wrong. But yeah, so mid August.
But yeah, anyway, we're back. We're back crowdsourcing our
apartment that we're in right now.
It has its fall backs. It's not a huge apartment, but
it does have really, really, really tall ceilings, like 25.
Like right now, if I look up, this is 25 feet above me, you
can actually hear the OK, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put a I'm gonna
put it whatever. Never want.
But yeah, there's a really cool echo in the room.
You can't hear it on the microphone.
It. I like it very much.
It's very pleasing to my brain. But we.
I want to hang a big thing. I want to hang like a Big Blue
whale, like something weird and large that you could never just
have unless you had a big, you know, I would say just so you
can picture it to your listener, probably like a 13 by 13 by 16
rectangular prism. So the ends of the rectangular
prism are a 16 foot by 16 foot square.
And, and that's not the whole room.
That's, that's the amount of free space.
Like under that is where the couch is and all that stuff.
I'm just saying because if anybody has any sweet ideas, I'm
I'm I'm I'm trying to think of something and.
That concludes Eric's life updates.
He wants a whale. Whales, whales shout out to.
Extraordinary Attorney Wu, you've been binging through that
show. I finally decided to watch it,
and I find it to be delightful. And it's very delightful.
It has its problems, it has its moments like everything does,
but same with Astrid. Astrid fucking.
I love that show. Oh yeah, I forgot about that
show. Very.
Similar concepts also, did you want to finish your life
updates? No, I mean, I just, I do.
I just don't want to feel like I, I'm talking about myself the
whole time you're you've been blowing up, son.
I just know that you're not allowed to talk about a lot of
the things that you're doing so. I don't want to pour.
I can definitely talk about other parties, please.
So hello dear listeners. So some things have changed in
my life. I am out here in Lai have a
column in Playboy magazine. Now, actually this very day I
had a meeting with my editor and the executive editor and we're
talking about my writing more for them because they really
like what I'm doing. And what I am doing is writing a
column about neurodivergency and disability and sex and intimacy.
And so please go check that out. I will be linking that on all of
my socials. I also obviously we're still in
the midst of a book deal. We're getting ready once we have
the publication date, we're going to be ha cha cha cha cha
cha, talking books, talking books.
Oh, I was going to say planning the book tour.
So we need to start hearing from people about where they want us
to go. But I also have another podcast
now and it's through the understood.org network.
And it is a podcast network by women and for women with ADHD,
especially late diagnosed women. My podcast is called Sorry I
Missed This and it is about ADHD and how it impacts
relationships, communication, and intimacy.
And I am immensely proud of it for one of two reasons.
One, because now there is a Direct Line to super useful,
super educational content without all the bullshitting
around that we do. But then also it means that Eric
and I can use Infinite Quest to kind of go back to our roots
and, you know, fuck about a little more.
So, you know, we'll still do education stuff, but we're also
just going to kind of do it in our way, which is, you know,
talking about both. It's, I don't know if we can
reference that because I don't know where it's going.
But I also like the idea that there's not a segment about
well, actually we, I feel like we've given enough information
where you could reasonably deduce what it was that we were
talking about. But then also like then if you
listen, yeah. But then we don't have to
graphically open after a year absence with like a 7 minute
riff about butt holes, yeah. And plus, like this person, this
is a known person and I feel like she doesn't want everybody
to know. Yeah, she's like an actress.
She's an actress, so you know. But yeah, Bubs, you've been
crushing this here and I'm really proud of you.
Sorry, I was just looking something up to make sure that I
had the person's name right if I was going to say a person's
name. What was the person's name?
Yeah. Also out of context, like I was
just thinking, it's interesting. I apologize because socially I
was on my phone for part of your time, but the listener doesn't
know that. So like for them I was like out
of nowhere. Yeah, yeah.
But. I wasn't really proud of you
even crushing it all, but just so well earned and.
I'm, I really want them to be successful.
Like I'm really scared about it. Like it's weird because like the
podcast is very like, like not like formal, but it's very
produced. Like there is like a team of
people who are like working on this podcast and we get in like
experts and like, you know, like that kind of thing.
And so it's like wild because I still feel just like me, but
then there's like this staff of people who are like doing this
podcast. And then my experience with the
podcast is this where we just like 5 on the couch and like put
it up, you know, like just. Straight high octane fucking
vibes. Dude bro.
Speaking of which, we all so have a new energy drink that
we'd like to. But what's our energy drink
called? Infinite quench.
Infinite. Oh that's good.
I was just thinking oops. I don't know why that's so
funny. We just called oops oops.
For people that say oops all the time, it's kind of weird.
Like that really is an ADHD fucking name.
Flavors that you can purchase for Oops.
I think it's all gonna be wrong, OK?
I think is important when it's gonna be like, it's gonna be
like blue watermelon, OK? You know, like, oops, it was
supposed to be blue Raspberry. We have another one that's gonna
be Seth Rogen's breath, but I think is gonna be really
popular. OK?
Yeah, I think that one's gonna be really good.
I think we have. We have another one that's just
called Liam Neeson's gravelly voice.
I have a drink that one. That'd be a good.
One that'd be. Good.
I have a very particular set of drinks and flavors you think?
Alec Baldwin in 30 Rock. I guess I do.
It's not what Liam Neeson tonsils.
Why am I wearing a tux? It's after six.
I'm not a farmer. Exactly, but now I'm starting.
To get to be Batman. It's there's a fine line.
There's a fine line. And then if you go too far
around, then you wind up with like, I don't know, like a rock.
Yeah, a rock. A rockman.
Totally. It starts starts with Liam
Neeson and then gets to Jack Donaghy and then gets to Batman,
which I should say is an order that will surprise you.
Shout out to Batman. Shout out to anybody who likes
Batman. That's a joke for two people.
That's a. Joke.
I would say at least four people you think watching listening to
this show. Yeah, I guess that's true, yeah.
But anyway, about my super vulnerable monologue about how
badly I want these projects. Sorry, I was riffing.
What is success look to look like to?
Like I don't know, I just like, it's really cool, right?
But it's also just, you know, I'm still me.
And so it's just like weird cuz it doesn't feel like anything
just doesn't feel like anything. It just is like OK, like today I
met with the executive editor of Playboy and he was like, I
really like your stuff and I really want you to write for
this magazine cuz we are really impressed.
And I was like, OK, like, I just, I wish that there was like
a way that I could like internalize things.
And I just don't know how to do it.
Like I really don't. And it's, it's really like, I
don't want to say like, it's hard to like get to me, but it's
just, I don't know, like it's like, I wish that there was like
a place where I could go, OK, I have succeeded to the point
where I'm allowed to be proud of myself.
And I was like the other day I was making some dear listeners,
we are going, I will put this somewhere else because I'm not
going to even go into all the shit that I'm doing next month.
But like, I was like making like my little like convention
handouts. And I had to like add, I had to
add like the Bbci had to add like, you know, the Washington
Post. I had to like Add all the little
like as seen ends. And like, it's this very like
graphic representation, literally of like all of the
stuff that I have done that is noteworthy and important and
cool. And I was like, I should
probably be working harder though, like that, you know what
I mean? Like it's just, it's really
frustrating because I'm like, I keep looking at my life and be
like, this is fucking dope. This is like the best possible
version of my life that I'm living right now.
I'm so happy and I'm so fulfilled.
But like, when I think about it as like a concept, I'm like,
well, and maybe it will all go away tomorrow, like, you know,
well. It's always good.
Well, I think I'm. Going to shake my protein drink
into the microphone. Nice infinite quench if we made
can that be your first merch for 2024?
Is infinite quench merch. That's pretty funny.
That's really infinite quench. Infinite quench it.
Does kind of it is fun to say, but I would say just then Bubs
you, you should at the end there, you know, but when I
think about it, yada, yada, yada, But you know, I think
that's The thing is you're you're you're thinking
something. So of course you're not feeling
something because you're thinking something which is
necessary. You can't do those things at the
same time, but like it doesn't work.
I've I've. I think I've very often.
Like I don't know how to feel pride in my body, you know, like
I've gotten to the point where like I can feel happy in my
body. I can feel sad in my body.
Hashtag touch of the tism. But like that's like part of it
is like I think it's like that like autistic sensory thing.
And like, the more that I've started like unpacking, like the
range of my like autistic experience as opposed to like my
ADHD experience, that's a lot where I'm like, I don't know
what I'm feeling, you know? And it's just like, I, so I
don't know, like how to like, what does pride feel like?
Doesn't feel like anything because I'm like, of course I
have succeeded because that is what I set out to do is I have
succeeded and now I will continue to succeed because I'm,
that is what I expected myself. But that's not pride.
That's just expectation. And confidence in your ability
to meet those expectations. Yeah, but then like massive
crushing disappointment if I don't get the thing.
But like The thing is like like being on drop out.
Like being on drop out is a really, really good example
because like I desperately I fucking want to be on drop out.
So God damn bad, right? Is like goals, but like if I
don't get on drop out, then I'm going to continue to beat myself
up for not getting on drop out. I'm going to continue to be
like, oh, you need to work harder.
You need to do more in order to get on drop out.
Maybe drop out just doesn't like me.
Maybe drop out, drop out has no interest in working with me and
that is totally OK. And that's really valid.
But like the expectation that I have set for myself is like, I
would like to be on drop out. So therefore I have to work as
hard as I possibly can until I until I do.
But The thing is, and I already know this is then when I would
get on drop out, I'd be like, OK, yeah.
Well, I. I It's so frustrating, yeah.
Oh my God, it's it's so. Frustrating, it sounds.
Extremely frustrating, yeah. I'm tired all the time.
Well. I think a couple, a couple
things, three things. One, and I'm probably going to
forget the 2nd 2. By the time I finish the first
one, they're already starting to get fuzzy.
But I was thinking like as as a model maker, it's like, let's
say you're a person who make, who gets and makes models,
whether they're Lego models or like model ships or whatever
that that person might ask themselves, why is it that I
think so much about all the models I haven't made, but I
never sit and think about the models that I have made because
you've already made them. There's nothing to be done like
sitting and thinking about how cool that model is.
Like cool, it's fun, but there's nothing to be done about that.
That is not an actionable thing. So for you, I think once you
have done things, sitting there and thinking about how cool it
is that you have done those things, might well, I don't want
to tell you how you feel, but like, what's the point in that?
You know what, what do I do about that?
But I also, I also don't think that's the goal though, and I
don't think that's what client is, but I think that's that's
sort of when you bring it up to the intellectual sphere, it
starts. I think it's things like that
start losing their value because you're like, what, what
functional value was there to to thinking about things that have
already happened and aren't going to you know, I've done
that. Now what?
There's nothing for me to do about it.
Whereas wanting to be on drop out, there's a lot you can do
about that. There's emails you can send and
content you can make and whatever the fuck.
Extremely. Awkward DMS you can.
Extremely awkward DMS like I am sorry, don't know me, but but
seriously, so I think I think that's right is just you're a
doer. You're a very pragmatic doer
person and you attack things head on and you can't attack
trying to find pride head on, I think well.
That's annoying. It should not work, yeah.
But also, I've already forgotten the other two points.
But but I, I also think pride. I think in trying to search for
the feeling of pride, we sort of lose the forest for the trees.
I mean, pride is this whatever happens?
Well, what does? Pride feel like to you let's.
Think, I don't know. I don't know if I've ever really
felt proud. I've admitted to being proud as
like an intellectual pursuit. Like, am I proud of the work
that I just did? Yes.
You know, am I proud that that thing got made?
Yes. But like the feeling of pride?
I'm not sure. And I think it's, it's since you
have Alexithymia, which it's been a year since our last
podcast. So I guess is, is the inability
to to to recognize sensations within your own body, including
things like feeling, but also things like having to be and
stuff. But anyway, I'm not the one who
has it. Would you say that's a
reasonably correct? It's amazing.
Just want to make sure. I think I was imagine like a
person who's colorblind trying to explain what color is to
them. There's never going to be a
satisfying answer to a person who can't see color because they
don't know if it's correct. So even if a person who is
colorblind did come up with a like an understanding of color
that was reasonably correct, they would still not feel that
it was correct. They wouldn't apprehend that it
was correct. Like finally I see they would
just go maybe, maybe that's close, you know, who knows?
So I think you as a person who is, has a hard time just
recognizing sensations within your body, particularly
emotional sensations like the feeling of happiness or pride or
whatever. There's, I think it, it, it's
just, it's sort of like a double punch because one, you don't
know in the 1st place because whatever, you know, for whatever
reason, and two, you might not recognize it when you see it.
And I think pride is the thing that happens when you stop
thinking about all that. You know, like, I think when you
stop, not you, but when one stops, it just sort of exists in
the moment of like, like I feel the most pride when, at the end
of the day, when we're hanging out and I did good work that day
and I'm financially stable and I'm, I don't have anything to
actively worry about. And I just sit there and I have
like, I feel proud that I, I feel good in that moment or
whatever. Yeah, I don't know.
But it's I don't know, I'm rambling at this point, but.
No, it's good. I like that.
But yeah, so anyways, I don't know what, but I also feel like
as a person with alexithymia, I make sure you don't miss the
forest for the trees, you know? Naming it is not nearly as
important as experiencing. I mean, and also, I wouldn't say
experiencing pride is important. Like these words are just like
grunts that we've made-up to describe the feelings inside of
our ape bodies. Like who's to say pride even
exists, you know? But anyways, I'm getting a
little, I'm getting a little college student who likes the
smell of his own farts about this.
But I'm sorry and I'm fucking just to bring it back to you.
I'm proud as fuck to you. Thanks.
And I hope you, at least intellectually, feel proud of
yourself. I just, I don't know, I really
just, I really want them to succeed and I don't know, I, I
was going to say something and then I forgot and then I just
remembered it again. But it was like the like the
Playboy shit has been so wild because the Playboy is like, it
is a very, very different thing that I like, I miss writing.
Like I, I really forgot that I'm like a pretty excellent writer,
which I like. I'm allowed to say that because
it is true. I am a great writer.
And so like being able to sort of like delve into that and then
be able to like talk about shit that like I can't on like TikTok
or like whatever. Like that's been really nice
because it's like, I have this like safe space to do it.
But it also happens that I've been absolutely privileged to
like the platform on which it is.
It's like, oh, I have a column in Playboy magazine where I get
to talk about shit that is really important to me in a way
that like, I want to and like how I communicate.
Like that is really fucking cool.
Like, that's neat. I'm really happy about that.
Maybe that's pride. Maybe that's what pride is like.
I'm really proud of it, I think. But I just wanted to succeed.
So please go read it if you would like to.
Thank you. Also, I'm mentally curious to
see how you, this isn't meant to be like a call out or I'm just a
call out or anything. I'm just curious how you
respond. By every measure that we're
aware of, all of those things are massively successful.
Yeah, I know that my articles have done pretty well.
Like I've been specifically told, like the podcast is doing
really well. Been told specifically because I
like, because that's the thing, that's what I like.
I like metrics because where it's like, OK, if I know that
like people listen to this all the way through, that means that
they liked it or like, you know, OK, I got a million hits, that
means that a million people, you know, or like 750,000 people.
And then they sent it to a few fronts, like, you know what I
mean? Like that kind of thing.
Because I'm like, OK, that was good.
That's a measurable metric. But just like.
I don't know. No, it's.
It's very logical. It is.
I'm honestly, I'm spinning in my head a bit because I feel like
now that it's been a year since we've done this, I was just
like, did I just come off as just like, oh, I, I feel like I
just came off as like, I have all the answers, you know,
yadda, yadda. Like, oh young lady, just let me
if only you saw the world through my eyes, you would and I
don't. I think you're I.
Think you're a really good sounding board and if anybody
thinks that you're mansplaining to me it's cool because you're
my partner and like my best friend and I like talking and
the whole vibe of this podcast is talking and sometimes you're
just going to talk about the things that you think and that's
OK. There was a fucking.
TikTok creator and she made a video I don't remember the main
thing I just remember like the words on the screen were like
the message of the video was she said.
Is he really mansplaining or does he have ADHD and he's info
dumping I. Saw that video and I thought of
you obediently. Thanks because that.
Scratch that. Made me feel so much fucking
better, like just that stupid, because that's part of like my
joy is, I mean, I do it all the time with people of any gender
and age too. I sometimes when I'm talking to
like a 10 year old, I'm like 10 year old does not need to know
how about the harmonic sequence or whatever, you know, when was
the last time I talked to a 10 year old?
I don't think I've talked to probably like Halloween.
You said hi to that kid in the hallway.
Today. Oh yeah, his finger up his nose.
It was just like so might have been. 4 or 14 like I have no
ability to hate children like I was just like he's small I can
usually tell. For me, there's like baby, like
kid, yeah, you know, which is everything from like late
toddler, yeah, to like, probably like 10 or 11.
And there's like, teenager, yeah.
Which and I teenager is. Like, yeah, I I up to 20 because
then there's like that vague. Like college student, yeah,
like, yeah, like I because then these.
Toddlers. Children, college students,
like, that's how I like, date children.
Yeah. What's also weird is.
Being around so many college students because my dad was a
professor, like college students are weird age because like 22
for some people, some people change very little in college,
you know, like they go to college and they're there to
party and do, I mean, I don't fucking know, but you know, they
just don't change very much. And so like I've met people who
are 22 who I'm like, Oh my God, you've already gone to college.
And then and which is does say anything about like quote, UN
quote intelligence or knowledgeable just in in the way
that they think about the world, you know, And then I've met like
22 year olds. So I'm like, oh try being 14I.
Assume they're in college. Yeah, Jesus.
Right, that was. Fucking rough.
Wow, yeah, like. Nobody knew that I was. 14 they
all assumed that I was just a college student and I was 14
years old. That's like it sounds like it's.
So fucking weird. That sounds like such a good
like. Oh my gosh.
Think of an actress like Lindsay Lohan movie or something.
Yeah. You know, from like a night.
Yeah, it was. Except like.
Not fun, mostly just sexual harassment.
Which class were? You taking?
I was taking a bunch of different classes.
I took stagement makeup and acting and directing, and I took
like a couple of English classes and I took a poetry class and
bales. We will take you OUT in a
minute. We have to finish making the
podcast also. That is the voice that I used to
speak to my talk most of the time, just so you know.
Just so you know, I have a. Whole dog talking voice that's
secret that I just put on my podcast.
But yeah, you know. Oh yeah.
That went to a dark place. Very quickly, I apologize.
I went to a lot of places and I. Appreciate you being comfortable
going to dark places when we arrived there with your tracking
back. Oh yeah.
Mansplaining. And Oh yeah, I do any gender.
Oh yeah. Is I just.
I really like reveling in things that I know.
And if people and I, my favorite type of people are the people
who like reveling in things that they know.
So then they talk about them and then I learn the thing and then
I know those things. And we just like, celebrate how
cool it is to know stuff and think about stuff and make stuff
like that's my favorite type of human or my favorite state of
human, I suppose. Because we're changing.
We're ever changing. But I I also know that that.
That being a six foot two sis head white dude like that can
very easily come off as me being, well, let me tell you
about Shaka Dubba or whatever. So I feel like there's like.
There's like the, the condescension factor because I
feel like a really easy way for me to suss out if somebody is
being like condescending and mansplainy versus like ADHD
enthusiastic info dumping is that enthusiasm?
Is that because like there's a lot of times where like, I will
run into somebody whose special interest is Shakespeare, or I
will run into somebody whose special interest is like
costuming, where it's like, I already know a lot of stuff, but
most of the time I will somebody at the door.
Oh yeah, that's good. Yeah, I got it.
Is it crazy dog time? Is it crazy dog time?
Oh, it's crazy dog time. OK, but not by the not by the
laptop. Oh.
Come on. Come on.
Come on, come on. He's crazy Dog time.
Oh my gosh. He's crazy dog time.
Oh my gosh, what we're here now could be crazy dog.
Time. What's up?
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Beautiful cheapest buddy. Come on, Buddy did.
You hear your head? Oh, OK.
OK, OK. Hey bud.
SH SH my sweet dog. Oh my sweet darling love.
Oh sweet love of my life. Yeah, good job, feels.
Good job. Thanks.
Oh, good job. Bailey settling down, what is
what we what you were saying good job about just then, right?
That was pretty good. Hi, everybody.
Maybe there was an interstitial there.
Maybe there was just we just cut out a whole bunch of stuff
because there was knock a Thor and Bailey freaked out and you
know, maybe we left it in. I don't know, Maybe you just
heard me. Use my Bailey voice.
Who knows? I like when you use the Bailey
voice. It's really kind and nice.
Oh, that's that's what my heart. Sounds like whenever I look at
her, yeah, she's delightful. Best dog in.
The whole. Oh, something I do to phone
right back in her, something I do to try to make it seem like
I'm not sending that like arrogance is preface.
Like start off by saying I know what I'm a lot of what I'm about
to say is stuff you probably already know.
I'm just going to say it just so like, for context, you know, of
what I'm saying, usually one that lets people finish my
thought because they're not interrupting to say I know, you
know, which is nice because when somebody interrupts me, there's
like, a huge chance that I have no fucking idea, you know?
So I get, I'm really terrified of being interrupted in public
because there's a good chance I'm going to figure out what I
was talking about. And then I'm going to have to
just stare at the server like, what are we doing here?
What's happening? Oh, but also I think makes them
feel less like I'm explaining this to them under the
assumption that they don't know. Like, yeah, like that kind of
thing. Well, I also feel like.
There's a difference between like, I'm working at a place and
I need to know for my own edification that I showed you
how to like, use the coffee maker.
Yeah, and. Like.
You know, you're at home hanging out with your friends and that,
you know what I mean? Like, there's like contact, like
there's contextualness to it as well.
Like a contextualization because like, yeah, a lot of that
conversation, condensation, Conden.
No, wait, conversation. No condescension.
Condescension. Yes.
Those are really similar. Yeah, I've never noticed that.
Before, yeah, it's now fucking all the.
Time the condescension. Often comes from, like, that.
Well, of course you don't know because you're a woman and
you're just delayed. Yeah, but it's like, if somebody
is like really hyped up about Shakespeare and they're
explaining the plot of Titus Andronis to me, you're Titus
Andronicus to me because like, they're like, oh, my God.
And there's, I'm like, I want to give that person that moment.
Like, I want like, I'm not going to be like, how dare you?
I have two master's degrees in Shakespeare.
I know. Like, I'm like, no, I want to
know how you explain the plot of Titus Andronicus to somebody
when you're really excited. Like, what are you getting out
of it? Like, what have you learned?
Like what, what are the highlights of what's important
to you? And so I don't know if I have
more patience for it than other people just because I think that
a lot of times I, I can just, I can tell, like I can really tell
when it's like somebody who's being genuine and someone who is
like assuming that I don't know things.
And like for me, there's like, there's like a feeling, there's
like a very specific, like, I can recognize this feeling.
Well, I think a lot of people. Particularly men, but a lot of
people, if you once you notice, it's really hard to stop
noticing. So I apologize in advance if
this changes anybody's worldview, but I also don't give
myself too much credit. A lot of times when people like
in particularly, well, white men are talking about a thing,
they're actually talking about themselves and how and they're
talking. They're talking about how much
they know about the thing. They're not talking about, you
know, how interesting all this stuff is.
They're saying, look how much I know about this thing.
It's a huge green flag for me when somebody's talking about
something and they are just clearly like just shit over fuck
for the thing. They're like, I don't like this
isn't about me or how much I know or I was just like, how
cool is this thing? Like that's my favorite because
a lot of I don't know, I I I spent a lot of time trying not
to do that because I I see a lot and I don't, I'm not talking
about like people that are that are immediately in my life.
I mean, just in general. Yeah, I did that.
The other day, and I keep thinking about it because I feel
really bad about it, really. And it was such like a dumb
thing. But so Lisa, who we met, there's
this part, it doesn't matter. But her name was the devil, OK?
Her name was Sue. We'll call her Susie.
You've already said the name I was.
Wishing you you. Could edit it, that's great.
But. No, so they're OK.
So there's this purse on it. And she was at Eric's, like,
place of business. And she was like talking to me.
And she's talking to me about this, like, show that she's like
putting on and her like, husband is like directing it and like,
you know, they're just like theater people.
So we were having this little conversation, but specifically
the play was Steve Martin's The Underpants.
And not a lot of people know this, but Steve Martin, like the
Steve Martin has written a lot of really good plays.
And yeah, he's, and they're really good.
Like they're fantastic. And so I, we, I did a bunch of
them when I was actually when I was 14 in college.
That was one of the shows that I worked on.
But so she's like, oh, you probably haven't heard of it.
It's called the underpants. I was like, Oh my God, Steve
Martin, whatever. And then I immediately launched
into the story about how when I was in college, we did the
Zigzag woman, which is another play by Steve Martin.
And I was like really excited because I there was like, you
know, those like magician like zigzag boxes where you push the
thing and the lady looks like she's like gotten into the side
is you have to have one of those because the entire play is about
a woman in one of those. And so we're like, where do we
get one? And so I looked it up.
I got. I found the patent and I reverse
engineered the plans from the. Patent built a zigzag.
Box and it was like this triumph for me like as like a young
theater person 14 years old but. In hell yeah, but.
In my mind, she was like Steve Martin, the underpants.
Not a lot of people have heard about this.
And my brain went, oh, not only have I heard about this, but
like I have this like really important special to me core
memory. So I'm going to share it with
you. But then I like played it back
and like, and you know, sorry. So I like told a story and she's
like, but anyway, so the play is it like this theater?
And I was like, oh, fuck, Like fuck.
Because I didn't, I didn't mean for it to be like, now I'm going
to talk about me. But like, that was like, how I,
you know what I mean? And what I should have said is
like, tell me about your show. Like, where's it at?
Like what, what's the set like? Like, where'd you find?
Like I should have just asked any question at all.
But instead I was like, here's a fun anecdote about me.
And I felt like I felt like shit about it for three days.
Well, first of all, I was. There and it was fine.
And you were. I know what you mean.
But anyway, I know I remember what you're talking about.
If you want I I I, I also don't mean to imply that like when we
do that, it's it's like malicious and sell or selfish.
Sometimes it is, but it's like a social cues thing.
But. Exactly.
I think. I think it's just.
One of the risks of being a person who tends towards
anecdotal communication, yeah, which I think we certainly both
do, but I think a lot of nerve divergent people do.
Yeah. You know which, you know, dear
listener, if you've never heard the term anecdotal
communication, it's if somebody brings up a story about how when
they went scuba diving, you immediately think to tell a
story about when you went scuba diving to like connect with them
about like, hey, look, we've both gone scuba diving.
That's called anecdotal communication.
But I think it can often come off as like, oh, we're changing
the subject to me, but not but I don't.
So I just don't want to paint that as being like a malicious
or selfish thing to do. I think a lot of times it is
selfish and just people want to jerk themselves off.
But I think for people like us and a lot of other anecdotal
communicators, that's just how we relate to people.
And sometimes it just doesn't go well, or at least how we how
we'd like. Yeah.
I don't think people assume malice from it.
I don't think like she went home.
And was like what an asshole. But like I have thought about it
for three days non-stop. Like, oh.
Boy, I blew it. I.
Blew it. I don't know her super well.
But she's really cool. I bet she was very cool.
And I was just like, I was just trying.
To be like, I'm excited that you also know about Steve Martin
plays because nobody knows Steve Martin plays, right?
That was it. That was all I was trying to do.
You know I'm well, I think you will also.
I think you did communicate that you know, like, and she also
knows about you and stuff and she's really cool and like.
What? Sorry, I just had a completely.
I just realized we can't do this song because I don't have a
ukulele here. We have a.
Banjo and a guitar, yeah. And I.
Just built a loot. Yeah.
Which is fun story, did you say? That yet?
Yeah, I can say what I'm working.
On I just can't say what it's for.
Oh, that's fair. Oh also, everybody, this is
we're late in the podcast here, but at Eric's place of business.
What's that? We'll find out next time.
I just want to start a whole thing.
A few more minutes left. But yeah, we have a banjo and a
guitar. Do do it up, you know, I don't
know. I got so I was.
Like Oh no, now I don't know how to end.
I'm sorry. I do feel it.
Well, well, also Bailey's been eating for the last like 10
minutes. Well, hey, everybody.
Thanks so much for listening to this episode.
It's been a year, so if you're listening to this, thank also
thank. You to the 600,000 of you who
listened to our podcast while we weren't making a podcast because
I don't I logged back in to my little podcasty analytics.
You know, they're like, oh, here's what the pocket and I was
surprised. I was shocked I was moved.
I was touched. So you know, thanks for that
team. Thanks for I want to know like
what episode of people just like listening to on repeat because
I. I I got to, I'm sorry bubs, I
just never originally had to correct.
It wasn't 600,000 people, it was we have 600,000 plays, probably
about 100 of which thousand of which came from the last year.
So 100,000 listens in the last year.
That's also listens, not people. So it might just be one.
Really enthusiastic person with five phones, Yeah.
Or, you know, people who listen. To episodes more than once
that's right. I just didn't want people to
think like wow they're so they have 600,000 people listening.
I also don't know what's good cuz.
Like if 1000 people watch a TikTok video, I get mad.
I'm like God damn it nobody but it's like 1000 people listen to
the podcast. I'm like, that's like, I'm
sorry, I didn't mean to cry. That was just.
No, it's OK. I didn't.
That was gonna hurt my brain. No, it's great.
I have a. Announcement, but I have to find
the actual. Thing also special extra double
thank you to our patrons this time because if you're as of
this like listening if you're a patron of ours, that means
you've been a patron throughout this whole year.
We weren't doing stuff and that's really cool and it's
saved our asses a couple times. So thank you very much.
I appreciate it. I think it's on my.
Instagram, sorry, and now a soliloquy.
But tomorrow? And tomorrow and tomorrow.
OK. OK.
Hey, Infinite Quest listeners,
what are you doing October 4th through the 6th?
That's like in a couple of weeks in Denver, Co.
I'm going to be a keynote speaker at Women Lead Live.
This is my first keynote. I'm very nervous about it.
I'm sure it's going to be great. I'm going to be talking about
neurodivergence in the workplace.
And if you would like to get tickets, I have a discount code.
So you go to go.theshecenter.org.
Sorry, is it? She SHE.
Yeah. So it's.
Go.theshecenter.org/katio and you can get 10% off your tickets
with code Katiosaurus and it would be rad if you go because
then they will cover the cost of my hotel room.
So at least 10 of you need to buy tickets please.
Help me out. Help me out.
You don't have to do anything with them.
You don't. Even have to go you.
Just just just buy a ticket. I was going to say we'll, we'll
send you. Money to buy the ticket, but I
think that's fraud. Yeah.
I think that's. I think that's.
Active fraud. Fraud.
Also, let's go. Let's do fraud, Katie.
Let's fucking do it. Who's?
Up for my jury. Listening to this.
As evidence, check fraud. OK, but no a couple of other
things. I am for real actually and for
truly. Remember when I said in January
I thought I was going to start a newsletter?
That wasn't true, but I'm currently working on actually
starting a newsletter. The newsletter is going to be
your best place to stay up to date with everything that I'm
doing and with the book and all of that.
It will be the first place that we drop the presale link.
So if you want to go join, go to katiosaurus.com.
And I think it's slash newsletter, but it's just like
right there. I don't figure it out yourself.
You got this. I thought you'd been doing the.
Newsletter for No, I haven't. I've been.
Saying that I'm going to every month for the past nine months.
Really. I thought their.
Newsletters had been like going out.
No, there's been. 0 Newslettering Excuse me, that's
never been. It's OK, I have.
Failed monumentally, but yeah, so I finally asked for help and
now I'm getting help. And so there will be a
newsletter happening and other stuff that's happening.
I'm trying to think of like what's important enough to talk
about. Listen to Sorry I Missed This on
understood.org. Also next week on this podcast,
Infinite Quest, we're going to have a bonus episode, which is
the first episode of Sorry I Missed This.
So if you want to get a little like teaser trailer, they've
given me permission to like double post the episode and the
book is coming out at some point and that's all I can think of
right now. Also, if you want to show me
some love and some of the stuff I've been doing, if you go to
YouTube and you know, do you know Stephen Glickman, you know
the name? He's like, yeah, he played a
character on Big Time Rush, Gustavo, but he's in a band now,
a very successful band. He's he's started a whole new
career. And anyways, Mike Corey and I
made props for one of his more recent music videos.
So if you go to YouTube and search Paralyzed by Steven
Glickman and watch that music video, there's like a demonic
guitar in it during a couple slots during the solo and
whatnot. And Mike and I made that.
I'm quite proud of it. I think it turned out really
well. So anyways, if you want to
search up Steven Glickman on YouTube and comment on that and
be like, yo Hoge, he goons the shit.
Oh so good that's how I read all YouTube comments That's that's
the voice so loud I I I think I got nervous and so it all went
to my mouth that's OK hey could have been nevermind anyways, I'm
just while we're doing plugs. I don't think it's quite that
was good. It's.
Really, really cool. And if they were like, well, we
hired that. Random guy to do props and like
a bunch of people watch the YouTube.
What if you have if you? Have important film industry
connections in Los Angeles and you need a a props maker, Eric
Good. Yeah, instruments too, people.
Have been asking me to do instruments so you've got a lot
of custom. Instrument instrument work since
moving to LA, which is very fucking cool.
I Yeah, right, three months I've already made.
Two instruments for for production.
It's pretty rad, pretty cool. OK, so yeah, go to, I don't
know. We'll at some point we're gonna
like fix the socials and everything.
But listen, we, we both know, dear listener, that it's just
gonna be a kind of process. We barely got this recorded.
We're gonna prioritize. Well, I don't want to say this,
but I think based on the conversations my love that we've
had, we're going to prioritize like just making content just
like getting episodes yeah you know cuz fight cup one also it's
like the most fun part of this whole fucking thing for us
right. Well, I don't want to speak for
you. These gets like vibes gets a.
Vibe right and it's like. Whatever we want it to be.
So we're going to focus on content, but in terms of like
getting the socials all coordinated and and new like
that's come. But we're going to anyways.
I'm going to stop talking now. No, no, no.
You got it. Yeah.
So go check out the stuff that we're doing.
I'm going to post to my like appearances, schedule and stuff.
If you're going to be at Big Bad Con or Dom Con in New Orleans or
are if you're doing D3 at sea, I'm going to be doing so much
stuff in the next couple of months.
So just, yeah, just know that I love you.
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be at Bay.
Area Maker Faire too by the way. Just going to ask you about
that, I forgot. Yeah, cool, cool.
Anyway, dear listener, thanks so much for coming back, rejoining
us. Season 3 question mark we've
this. I think this is Season 4 season.
You know what? Season 9.
Baby season 9 of. Ethnic quests.
I think we should just. Do it.
I think Season 9, I think that. 'D be really funny and then that
way no one will ever, they'll be like what happened to the lost
season, the lost. And then we can just.
Like we can do like prequels, see, And now we're committing.
To like fours last seasons. I've lost seasons.
Maybe we should call the season like 7.
So we're only on the hook for three.
Oh yeah, I don't. Know anyway, Dear listener,
Season 7. Episode 1 seven O 1 back to
remember, to be kind to. Yourself, remember to be kind to
others. Remember to eat a snack, drink
some water and take your meds. I did that out of order cuz I'm
out of practice, but remember that we love you and it's great
to be back. Everybody see you next week.
Bye everybody, Bye. Bye, bye, goodbye, bye.