Hello and welcome to season 1 episode, 25 of Katie and Eric's
infinite Quest. Today we have a Schultz on
co-host of True Crime and paranormal podcast, and that's
why we drink. They were recently diagnosed
with ADHD and agreed to come on and talk to us about it.
We talked for much, much longer than expected.
So, we had to cut it down, but if you'd like to listen to the
entire unedited, weird conversation that we had head on
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Without further Ado, here is our interview with em Schultz
transition is that okay to start off with the lemon who hurt you?
So yeah, we can talk about lemon, the Christine if she
listens to this my cuz if she listens to this, she's gonna be
quite thrilled which it, whereas I'm the opposite.
Um, I assume you want to know who I'm in.
Is yes. So what I know is that you found
you and Christine found a lemon under the bed in a Airbnb, a
couple years ago and you have since encased it in a proof,
Tony Stark has a heart style case and it's now sort of the
mascot. You know, you're pretty much.
You've got it all together. So yep.
We so we had a show in San Jose, I is now two years ago and we
rented out an Airbnb when we were staying in town.
And so after our show, we went back and usually after a show, a
lot of people don't know this because the show ends for them
kind of earlier. But we don't usually get to
relax until like 1:00 in the morning after a show.
So ever, we were kind of slap happy and I think we were it was
the last City we were going to on that leg of the tour.
And so we were just kind of like all Goofy and really in High
Spirits that we were getting to like head home after this.
And usually, that means we just stay up all night and it's like
a big sleepover. And So Christine was kind of
slap happy and found herself crawling under the bed.
I don't really understand like you tell, she tells me since I
was an Airbnb. She was looking for murderers to
make sure that she could sleep under that bed or sleep on the
bed Omron. Yeah, and she found a lemon and
she because it was so late and she was just super slap-happy.
It was like the funniest thing in the world to her.
She thought it was so funny. That a random person had
accidentally roll the lemon under there and the lemon had
moulded and said, like petrified.
So it's like if you it's like Halo and you could knock on it
and it's hard and she really grew an attachment to it.
And then the entire world got sucked into this somehow.
So now we get most of the fan art.
We get is just lemons. Like, people send us bags of
real lemons bags of fake Lemons at there's pictures of Christine
and lemon holding each other. Like, And I'm not even involved
and then because people know that I hate women, they send me
the same kind of fan art. Ironically, but yeah.
So now we have lemon and a little it's meant for golf
balls. It's a golf ball glass case and
he's super glued in there so he will always be memorialized I
suppose but that's lemon. I hate him.
I hate him so much. I don't understand.
I understand it but I think now the stick is that I don't
understand it and I've really lean into that person.
Oh yeah. So this is The weirdest in media
res that we've ever open the podcast with.
But for those of you who are very good use for that welcome
to infinite Quest. I'm Katie Source, I'm Hagee and
we are honored and excited today to have em Schultz from and
that's why we drink pod. Huh, podcast host extraordinaire
real cool human being. We're really excited to have
them. So listen up folks, we're really
good at this, really good at podcast, pucker up your ears.
Following up your ears bitches, but no.
Um, and actually, if you're not listening to and that's why we
drink first off, what are you doing with your life?
But starting off the reason why we have em on today is because
they were just recently diagnosed with ADHD and being a
cool podcast. Type folks and being a generally
all around cool human being. We're like hey you want to come
talk about ADHD with us nerds? So here we are.
This was the best intro I've ever done.
That's pretty good. I'm very proud.
Yeah. Well so just to just Start off
in for context. I'd love to hear just sort of
the obligatory. What was your ADHD story?
What caused you to seek a diagnosis?
Or did you like sort of accidentally get a diagnosis as
I've heard apparently happens sometimes.
Well, what's up, huh? So I actually wanted to save
this for when we were finally recording but actually one of
your first tick-tocks is what made me realize I had ADHD.
My first Tic Tacs both I follow both of you.
Yeah, so oh, I forgot to tell you that, in the middle of me,
telling you, I creep on you, on, in the internet.
But no, I did to be fair, I didn't remember that.
I had followed either of you. I'm taking a Hiatus from Tech,
talk it got really overwhelming for me, but, but I knew that I
was going to be working with you guys today and so, I, you know,
went to go look at your handles, everything was like, oh, I
already follow them and then a bunch of my liked videos, are
your He owes all the way from when I realized I was realizing
I had ADHD which was I guess somewhere and this summer.
So whatever videos you were posting around than are the ones
that I that got me to make up I guess.
So thank you. By the way, you've done a
service Shyamalan twist this early the a ringing endorsement,
but no, I so The way that I found out really was Tick-Tock I
would have had no clue. Had I not joined, and I think it
all happened because one day I may be my algorithm just was
like this fucker has like eating so like let's just drive that
content in but also I have tourettes.
And so I think one day I was just, I just went into the
search bar and just looked up, Tourette's to see what
Tourette's Tick. Tock look like.
And so many people also had ADHD.
So I just kind of got I kind of fell into that algorithm and
started looking at videos and I was like, oh, holy shit, I had
no clue that. I experienced all these things
and I wrote a list for you because I knew I would forget
but just some of the things that if you might, if you don't mind,
I'd like to know please. Yeah, just the homework.
You did homework for us it. So I listen to a bunch of your
episodes last night. I'm like my favorite one is the
hygiene one. Okay, we can talk about it
forever. Okay.
So okay, some of the things that I was experiencing.
I did not know where ADHD, hopefully because you helped me.
Oh, there's my neighbor, by the way.
Hopefully, because you helped me.
I can also help someone. So that's my neighbor.
Do you like that sound? It's, we honestly can't hear it
at all. So, excellent.
There apparently, hammering, the floor.
Okay, so I first of all was super forgetful all the time.
I had time, blindness, I'm still super You to all the terms
because I'm learning as I go, but I can't follow through on
any instructions. It takes me days to get anything
accomplished. Usually the only reason I will
ever get anything accomplished as because I'm completely under
pressure or like about to be yelled at as a grown adult ADHD
mood. Yes, that's the technical term
for. Okay.
Yeah, I usually have I described it up until this Summer that I'm
motivated by fear. That's how I've always Always
described it because I was like, well, I'm not going to get
anything done until someone's mad at me.
I am late to everything, easily distracted from all my work.
My insomnia is like, through the fucking roof.
I went to bed today at 5, a.m. I blurt out answers before
people finish sentences and I always thought that was just
like a fun quirky thing I did. And then people were like,
that's the most annoying thing you could ever do.
Also, I didn't know what stemming.
But I realized I'd been stemming in a bunch of ways.
My whole life, I get really sucked into the wrong things
which is one of the reasons I never even thought I could have
ADHD because I was so it was so easy for me to focus on things
if I really like them. And just absolute zero percent
executive function. And actually you said Eric use I
was because I really was listening to your episodes last
night. He said, and you said in the
Hygiene episode that the it affects you more as an adult now
than ever because now you're responsible for your own shit
and time management and scheduling yeah talked about
like everyone should unify and I guess you do that on your
Discord at ended up turning into that.
So that was like a ding ding ding last night for me where I
was like, oh holy shit. That's exactly why this sucks so
much more in why I never noticed it when I was a kid.
So That was all of it. I'm so sorry for the word vomit,
but you did not apologize. No.
That's like, it's funny too. Because, like so much of that
is, is like my experience. Like you like your list is very
similar to my list. Oh, and it was also the type of
thing where like, I didn't know that a lot of that wasn't
normal. I didn't know that, you know,
everybody doesn't deal with. Like, it doesn't take everybody.
Three hours to fall asleep at night, So I think one of the
weirdest things I don't know about you but for me like one of
the weirdest things about getting a late diagnosis is like
watching all those sort of like puzzle pieces like fall into
place and going like yep. Yep.
I and I also, I think this is not how I should think of it any
more, but just growing up and I hate the excuse.
That the world was different, but I was a kid in the 90s and
didn't really know much else. And And anytime anything was
quote weird, which I now know is not the professional term but
any time something was like, off about me.
I would just attribute it to Tourette's because I never
actually really learned anything about my Tourette's either.
It was just kind of a I went to the doctors to get a label for
why I was having weird ticks and then we just like, never talked
about it again. My family, and not that, there
was any shame to it. It was just like, oh, the doctor
gave us an answer and then we just moved on and, like, never
really tried to Any resources or anything like that.
And so many times something was, I guess not neurotypical.
I just said, oh, Tourette's and just bundled it away.
And never actually paid attention to what all this was.
And even with, when I got to Young adulthood Depression, hit
like a freight train, which is really fun.
And then, anytime something sad or lazy about me happened, I
would just attribute that to depression.
So I had kind of two different Categories.
I would just place things in and never, it never occurred to me.
I could just have ADHD this whole time.
Well, and it's also like, this is a fun fact that I know, but
oh you percent of kids with Tourette's also have ADHD fun.
Yes, I found that out this while in the quarantine and I was
like, wow, I wish I could go yell about it to people but I'm
inside so but I thank you. I'm glad that someone else is
also heard that statistic. Yeah, well, I have, I have Mayo
Clinic dystonia, so it's different than Tourette's, but I
also So have a tick and it was something that like mine
actually developed like later in life and so I kind of like went.
Mine was like backwards. It was like I had the ADHD and
then the tick like okay. The other way around.
Yeah, it's been really interesting learning how much
like you know, like ticks and neurological stuff like
Tourette's is connected to ADHD. And in a lot of ways like they
still don't know why they're just like yeah this is it's
weird. It's Think then that's like,
it's really that silly and that's silly.
I really thank science. That was helpful.
It was in Italy. One thing really seems to be the
case about ADHD is that it's like this underlying sort of
ocean that a bunch of other things.
Sort of either arise from or are related to.
Yeah, like, I would develop ticks for like months at a time,
I would just have a specific take and then it would go away.
And then another weird one would come up and then they would go
away. And another one would come back
and I always sort of attributed it to strangely enough my
depression. Russian because I would go
towards something and then totally just dislike dismiss it,
like, be obsessed with something, for like 20 minutes
for a week or however long. Yeah.
And then, you know, fuck off from it basically, and get
immediately super depressed. Because I was mad at myself for
digressing from the project. And so I would start with the
cart before the horse and go like, oh, it must be best
because I'm depressed. Therefore I quit this task and
so it was really hard to distinguish between the two and
it sounds like as I learn more and more people, that seems like
that's a pretty ubiquitous experience.
I had you just said things. I didn't even know how to put
into words. Yeah, that's I have that same
thing and I always, I knew that this an ambulance wants to say
hi to. I'm so sorry.
But I also always just the only thing I knew about Tourette's.
The only real explanation I ever care to venture out and learn
about my own neurological disorder was that it had
something to do with dopamine and I knew depression Person had
something to do with dopamine. So many time.
I had like a high or a low or had ticks are at anything
happen. I would just be like oh there
was some sort of weird Spike or drop in my depression or my or
am I dopamine and that's explains all of this when really
it could have just been like a whole other situation.
And now as I'm actually doing more and more research about
ADHD, I'm kind of wondering if I ever even had Tourette's.
Because all of the symptoms that I've had, I never had any of the
really exciting. Stream symptoms, which I'm
really lucky about. But in terms of stimming and
ticks and you know, more of the subtle behaviors, they all fall
under the ADHD umbrella. Anyway, so now I'm like maybe I
never had it at all and I've just been screaming about
Tourette's since I was 12. So like I it's quite a journey
because I have no idea what situation I'm dealing.
What, what what mental health issue, it is that I can blame on
my behavior. It's just like a grab bag and I
have no idea what's going on. So, so okay, so you have no go
for it. Okay.
So you you get on Tick-Tock and you have you start sort of
piecing, these puzzle pieces together.
So, but at the same time, like I don't want to say you're living
this secret double life, because everybody knows.
But oh you are a wildly successful podcaster.
You have a like a wonderfully Incredible, Cool career.
So what was it like having in that experience of like I am,
you know, I'm very successful in my field and I'm doing all this
like really cool stuff but like that the the struggle of like
okay but now I've got like this diagnosis to take care of and
you know like was that weird like trying to balance that or
like justify that or that's a terrible question.
Do you? No no no.
I first of all thank you for the kind words and also I think this
is like not the answer anyone wants to hear but Because I we
started the podcast for years ago.
So, nowhere before I was even thinking about throwing another
diagnosis into my brain. But I think because I just grew
up thinking, this is normal and I'm kind of offbeat because I
either have I have some sort of dopamine issue.
It's just kind of how I always labeled it and so I just didn't
know any better and so for me ignorant was Bliss and I didn't
know and it wasn't even like I was comparing myself.
My hardships to other peoples hardships.
I was just like oh I'm someone who can't fall asleep at night.
I guess I'll do my work at 3:00 a.m. instead of a normal hour.
And it was a luckily because you know, podcasting is a job with
so much freedom in it and terms of time management, it was true
having finished last week's episode of 3:00 in the morning.
At least you're Your Own Boss without like, really any hard
set deadlines because you can Make the rules as you go, it was
really I think it almost made me, kept me from learning
anything any earlier because I was able to just kind of work
around my own issues and also, I my co-host.
She's also like super wonderful and I we deal with a lot of, I
don't know if she has ADHD probably worked very similar in
many ways, but we, at least had the same Tendencies of like,
staying up late or, you know, hyper obsessing over certain
things. Or, you know, being like getting
overwhelmed on a task and not wanting to touch it at all, and
will do anything to avoid it. So, we have a lot of
similarities. So I think I never had to say,
like, hey, my ADHD is acting up. I think it was just like I don't
want to do this and she be like me either and then we it was we
were really good for each other in terms of being able to lean
on each other. So, I think that's how I got
through it, just not knowing, and working with what I had.
Yeah, I'm also curious, so we spoke a little bit earlier about
like, How as we get older, our were expected to manage our
lives in our time, right, ourselves.
Rather than being told where to be and where to go.
And so for me, I feel like when I was in school and stuff, I
always knew where to because somebody told me, I always knew
what to do. Because somebody told me and
that was frustrating in a lot of ways you thinking of that, yeah,
it was absolutely. So you insert insert in.
But by the way, I don't know what the inside joke is there,
but I just thought it was so random that that was your
thought. Oh yeah.
Do I have a YouTube video that I'm about to send to you so
hard. Oh, perfect.
I just heard Syrian McAllen. I was like, that's as weird as
lemon. I'm fucking down.
It's a lot. Like 10 people.
Listening were like, oh my God, that video.
Um, but as you know, so as we as we get older for me, my ADHD got
much more of a problem. I don't know if it got worse, I
would say worse like for my neurological standpoint.
But it certainly became much more impactful as I get older.
Yeah, but it was always sort of, you know, I'm a I'm a cook
professionally and things are generally fast-paced enough.
And people are generally telling me what to do enough that I can
sort of manage it. I know where to be and at what
time. But when we started the podcast
and we started infinite Quest suddenly I was back to that,
like, okay, now we have to decide what to do and when to do
it and all that stuff, which in a lot of ways, it's great.
So for example, also, the technical term for what, the way
sleep is affected by ADHD is Actually not insomnia.
It's delayed sleep phase syndrome, which is basically the
entire thing is just shifted. So we are later.
We may come later. Yeah, not fun, but it's fun that
I just learned something about myself, but that's technically
our jobs but sickly it got much heart.
It's really helpful in a lot of ways to be able to go.
Okay, it's 3:00 in the morning but I have work to do so I'm
going to do it now but it's also very hard where, you know,
nobody's going to yell at me if I don't post a tick tock by a
Sometime today. So I was wondering, are there
any what parts about your podcasting, profession / media
Creator. Profession are made harder
because of your ADHD and made easier because of your ADHD
Damn, that's a good question. I would say it's the parts that
feel like School are the hardest part.
So doing notes and doing research and especially because
in terms of getting our research done, the more we've grown and
the bigger we've gotten after four years.
We want to be really, really careful about how we do our
research. Not that we ever, like went
through any sort of Scandal or anything, but just growing up
and realizing, hey, we're reporting.
Pretty dark information. We should we need to be as
accurate and as respectful as possible.
People so research takes hours out of my research to, I mean, I
guess it's takes at least two full days of research every week
and that I try to avoid until the last minute because I just
don't want to do it. And then I end up staying up all
night, trying to get it done. And then I every time we record,
I'm super tired. So that is probably the part.
I liked the least, but in terms of the freedom, I first of all,
my Favorite quality which I don't even know if I should
attribute it to ADHD. But I my level of creativity.
I pride myself in being super creative and I have these random
bursts of what I think are really good ideas.
It doesn't matter if anyone else thinks they're good.
But those random bursts are my favorite part in the fact that
I'm working in an industry or you know, in a business where I
can just put content out and if I think it's funny awesome and
if it sticks at six and so I've liked that I have the time to do
things like that. I just don't like that.
I end up focusing on those things more because I'm trying
to avoid the nitty-gritty work. Yeah that's how we refer to that
in the ADHD Community as procrastinate e.
O my love, that you're procrastinating but in a
productive productive way? No I think Camden ADHD I'm said
it's red like stats. Not I'm gonna, I'm gonna use it.
It totally makes sense to me. So now, um, Oh my God.
So one of the things that I'm really interested in and this
doesn't have anything to do with ADHD.
I just found out because, you know, just a little Googling, a
part of our new friend em. You went to clown college?
Yeah, I did. I did so actually, I was gonna
because I creeped on you as well.
I was going to say, we should be friends in real life because I
am trying right now. I'm well, before the pandemic, I
was being mentored to join the Magic Castle.
And I know we are You do magic. Well, I am an aspiring magician.
I saw that you're part of the IBM so I'm thinking you're like
pretty intense in terms of skill.
I so I guess I was a clown. I was desperate to not do Sports
and so my mom said you have to do something after school and I
got to frustrated with instruments.
My mom to take took me like a couple guitar lessons or
something. I was like, fuck this.
This and she was like, we'll pick something and I made a joke
about clown school and it just became a thing.
So I went to clown school, I was the youngest at the time, at
least the youngest licensed clown on the East Coast.
So I could do, I was licensed to do, birthday parties, circuses
and hospital, visits and part of my classes.
One of my electives was magic and so I've always thought, oh,
I'm going to really get into it and I know like I know magic 45
year olds, I'm really good at Magic, 45 year olds, but in
terms of like the parts of magic, I really want to get
involved in. I'm just so terrible and I've
been trying to spend the pandemic learning that, I'm just
not very good. So, I'm trying light, I feel in
this moment is overwhelming and profound you ever want to
Mentor? Someone please, God, help me cry
here we got you fam. Yeah, it's out.
Like this doesn't matter. This is, we'll probably edit
this part out, but like know what I like I had this like
really weird thing, where and I You know, if you've had this but
like I'd have that cool like hyper-focus thing, where it's
like, oh no, I'm really into magic now really into whatever.
But every, every that's probably my biggest symptom that it was
just like a flashing light this whole time and I never noticed
but I'm hyper focused on a different thing.
Every single day for the last 28 years.
What is the weirdest hobby that you've picked up and like hyper
focus on two weeks? Fuck that's the hardest part
that's enough. As ADHD people because we like,
it is such like a, I feel like it is truly such it like, a
universal experience of like, hey, remember the time when you
rented a cello, like, everybody got shallow, everybody started
like the, like has a ukulele. Like, if there's like, these are
not the so be. Don't talk about my ukulele,
it's in the fridge. So by the way, dare, I suggest
that for the show you You make a bingo of random things.
Everyone has hyper-focused on at some point and see who wins on
his really good idea. Found Lee good idea and I will
be using that in a tick tock and I will dedicate it to you.
Thank you. It's a, it's a, I feel like it's
a bingo game that everyone with a DHD.
Would know they would win. They would either win or lose
depending on how you look at it. I guess.
So, so what's the weirdest thing?
Wow. Well, for a while, I wanted to
learn the ukulele specifically, so that my reward to myself
afterwards would be to learn the ban jokes.
I've always wanted to learn the banjo and then I found out that
there's a an instrument called the banjo Lele which is both and
it lights up which I'm a sucker for things that light up.
So my goal over the pandemic, one of them was to learn that
another has been magic down here.
On my geek shelf are a bunch of Pokemon cards that I collected
for a solid year and I have quite the collection.
And now I don't know what to do with it because I'm not hyper
focus on it anymore. Um, I'm really into like Marvel
Super Heroes. I really got into jam and
jellies and canning. I got into T1 summer.
I was obsessed with tea and then I like threw myself like a tea
party where I like tried a hundred different types of tea.
Same thing happened with hot sauce, it's a little others, a
lot. I mean, in most of it has to do
with food and most of it has to do with like a skill.
I can learn. So like I got really Into like
blacksmithing at one point and then I was like, desperate to
join a book of. What, why are, why are we the
same person? I really wanted to be actually,
when I first met my girlfriend. She was like, you know, my one
of the most interesting things about you.
As you said, you were trying to become a blacksmith.
And then, like, that never happened.
We re just trying to, like, hit on me.
It was like a weird flirting thing.
And I had genuinely, been trying to join a blacksmith group to be
trained as a blacksmith, but they were all too far away.
I'm really into tiny houses. I actually like have gone so far
as to I was like a day away from purchasing a tiny house or
purchasing the plot to build a tiny house.
So my impulse control is out of whack.
It's all, but it's all bad, I don't know.
Currently the thing that I'm obsessing over is that I am
going to make what I've been calling a creepy coat which is I
wanted a denim jacket and I want to collect all these patches and
pins that have to do with like ghosts and ghosts adjacent
things. I've also really been getting
into the idea of memorizing. All the counties of the country
like to memorize every state individually and learn all of
the towns and then try to find the best ice cream place in each
of those locations. I wholeheartedly support you on
this journey. I'm so I my mother's gonna hear
this episode and be like, I should have really gotten you
checked out a long time ago, I mean, as someone who spent two
years as a blacksmith Are you sure, wait a minute?
Could you be my magician blacksmith?
Yes, that's like a real like that.
Isn't it? What is actually ee funny about
your story. Is that the night that I met my
husband? I was like, I'm a blacksmith
like that was like the card that I played to, like, get in with
him. It's a real thing.
You know what, what I'm learning is 100% of the time, it works.
100% of the time, 100% is, is a two out of two so far.
So, yeah, if you're also an ADHD blacksmith, please send us.
Real, let us know how that went for no wonder, I'm not married,
I don't know. I'm not a blacksmith.
Yeah, he's kind of, my dad. Walk up to anyone and see what
happens. It's at least a conversation
starters, the litmus test, Hey, everybody.
It's me, Katie Source, congratulations.
You made it to the middle of the episode.
You should have a glass of water to celebrate.
Aha! I tricked you into drinking
water, I guess. Good job.
Okay, seriously. Oh, I've decided that for this
week's intermission break, we would do a very quick Q&A.
And our first question comes from Breda Marina.
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Eric. All of these questions are just
people asking me where I get my glasses.
Katie. Where did you get your glasses?
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Because the next question is in, this is the thing that has
happened in my life and I don't know if this is true for you,
but like, what I have found is that You do the clown college,
you, you do the blacksmith training, you learn the ukulele,
it's like whatever the thing is, right, and maybe for like two
weeks, three weeks. You get that like good good
document mean rush and then you, you know, you fall away from it
or whatever. But there's always that moment,
there's always a moment like three years later or four years
later where it's like, I became the entertainment director of
the Georgia Renaissance Festival and it was because I had costume
design experience, and directing experience.
Science and act like they had all of the things that I needed
and if you found that that like you're weird Hobbies they always
sort of come back at like the time that you need them.
Oh one of my favorite parts of I guess my favorite parts of ADHD
where a lot of say that is that like oh yeah okay one of my
favorite things about it so far in terms of like what the
symptoms of offered me. Like I think one of the best
consequences is that I am just like a jack of all trades in
terms of Trivia and skills. And I mean, and they're always
in places. I never really expect it to
happen. So I really want to one of my
biggest regrets is in life, just in general.
Is that? I'm not very handy and I really
hate that. I really like, if I wasn't a
podcaster, I would probably at some point end up in
construction just because I just so badly, want to build things
and be proud of them. And, you know, anything about
building things that you're proud of, no, I definitely don't
have this robot head, but I spent, Plus this is now
show-and-tell hours. John tell Eric built.
This robot out of cardboard last night.
Look at this. I think that he Dam.
Bam, honor. Okay, now you're my mentor.
I'm so impressed. You deserve so much.
Praise for that. That's incredible, that's
incredible. Having a podcast is how it's an
auditory medium and worship doing show and tell.
And that's, that's a good podcasting, right?
You seem so proud of yourself because people like me who don't
have that ability are Jealous of you that would look so cool.
Well, thanks, will you were, you were a prep Builder.
Our prop builder? Aren't you?
Isn't that hysterical? Yeah, I so I and hysterical in
terms of like, I am not handy, so I did make props for TV and
film for three years. But what a lot of people think
is when I say that, they think that I'm like, in charge of like
making all the fucking spaceships and explosives and
stuff, like I made the bullshit things that nobody cares about.
Like, I'm Made the menu in the background of the restaurant.
Like I made the water bottle label like so to me it was super
cool because it was exactly like my foot in the door of like my
level of skill. And so I am really proud of it.
I'm not trying to just poo poo on it.
Like, if I watched, there's a lot of shows all watch.
Now where I point out and I'm like, oh, I made that.
That's fun to see with. So in terms of Pride, it gives
me that. What while also not really
having the ability to back it up but everyone thinks I have the
ability, which is Well what may I recommend coffee?
Stirrers just just real quick. Just next time you're at you're
at a Starbucks or something, just grabbed a handful, keep
scissors superglue and coffee, stirrers around.
And if and you eventually will have built the world, I promise.
I so I have my own little kit of like random things like I'm a
big collector of boxes tiny boxes because I'm like they they
can be. So like this is my portable
sound booth and it's made from a box.
Oh hey look, it's just thank you.
It's a box and tape. So I appreciate the astounding
room report back but it's not that great but I keep little
boxes because I'm like, oh I could find something for this
and I have like a bag of like paints and arts and crafts and
stuff coffee. Stirrers, I don't have but will
now be adding to the mix? Oh absolutely you gotta
absolutely. Yeah.
Eric Eric is a master coffee stirrer model like I was like oh
cool. You make sure Out of coffee.
Stirrers. But then he showed me like an
artiste, nice tits. I mean, that's Derek you made
that one thing last night. Like, in one night, it was like
a day and a half. Yeah.
Dana have some like that. Okay, Small Potatoes.
Yeah. I mean that, that looked like it
had coffee stirrers on it. No, that actually, what about
the little devil teeth? It's the do.
This is, so, this is corrugated cardboard, and then I remove the
top layer fun. Okay, cool.
Yeah, I'm so tempted in Katie, stop me from going and getting
my coffee stirrer. We're not gonna get your coffee.
Like, no, I prefer no audio meeting after this.
I want. I'm not kidding.
I would like pictures of that. I think that sounds so fun.
Oh, absolutely. We got to we, well, I think we
also have to study the Ian McKellen video because it's very
important that, you know, that it exists because it's one of
the best things on the internet. Yeah.
Well, that's one point out specifically about because you,
you just now said it several times, you don't consider
yourself to be handy, which I just something in my head is
like now that's not true. You haven't unlocked.
They ND skilled tree yet. We have somewhere in there.
I have the desire and its really, really, really big.
Like I, I really want it, but I just don't know how to do it and
I, I'm afraid of failure. So basically, if I can't sculpt,
you know, the statue of David on the first try, I'm out.
We'll see. That's, that's, that's the the
gift of the coffee. Stir, my house.
That is the gift of the coffee stirrer.
Because if you're working with inopportune materials, and
inopportune tools, of course, it's not going to be A perfect
that allows you to forgive yourself for it.
Not being perfect. If it looks anything like what
you pictured? Hey, you're working with coffee,
stirrers and pair of scissors. Like that's a whip.
So that's why I would recommend starting with coffee stirrers.
I'm with you, my only fear is that, well, I guess it's not
really fair because I am lucky to have some really wonderful
friends who would like, Pat me on the back for too long of a
time. If I showed them, my coffee, sir
collection, if I wasn't very good at it, but one of the
things is a lot of my friends in La.
I Through working at the prop house and they were working in
departments where they know what they're doing.
And so I'll go over to their houses and they're like, look at
this little like UFO, a 3D printed.
And I'm like, what the fuck? Like I like, look at this stick
figure, I drew. So, like one of my like, big
claim to fame is like, I did all the like, most of the drawings
for the first season of stranger things.
Cool, which is like, stick figures that a 10 year old dead.
Like so like I'm like, yeah, it's cool.
But also I had to have zero skill, but then I can hang out.
With my friends and that's like, my only humble brag I can do.
And they're like, well, I made a robot and I'm like, okay, well,
I don't know. That's like the, the world in
which we inhabit is getting smaller and smaller because fun
fact, most of season 3. Stranger things will shot at the
Georgia Renaissance Festival, but oh, that's so fun.
Yeah, the carnival and stuff. So like, yeah, like worked on
that show. I strange that's also if a
stranger things 3, I didn't work on.
I had left at that point for the podcast.
But stranger things, one and two.
I made all the Eggo waffle boxes for cool.
That's really cool. That's like a that's like iconic
shit that was that was my pride and joy because it was like a
part of like Halloween costumes and like action figures and
stuff. So that was like, oh, I mean,
literally, it's an echo box and nobody is holding my name to it,
but I can look at it and be like, I made the ones that you
saw that made. You want to wear the costume.
So that's, that's a very cool claim to fame.
That is Iconic in. Stranger things is Iconic.
Yeah, that's that's real name. Perhaps, I have no follow-up.
Questions. That's just very cool.
Well, actually, this is probably a good time to kind of start
wrapping up a little bit. So one of the things that I
wanted to ask you is as someone because honestly, like, I think,
in a lot of ways, like we both have like, a fairly new
diagnosis. Like yours is a little younger
than mine, but I've only really had a diagnosis for, like two or
three years at this point. So like, white advice.
Do you have for somebody who's like watching The Tick-Tock?
Ox and going like, oh my God, that's me like I see myself.
Like what what feedback would you give to those people in
terms of? Like, what is, what is good
about the diagnostic process? What is not like what is that
been like for you? Wow.
Hard left from Eggo boxes know your, you're both real.
Your questions are very good. I guess.
Well, the only thing I can really go off of is what I did
which was I really leaned into the algorithm and the second
that something felt fishy or seemed like to and alignment
with with how I've been living my life, I just kind of followed
the trail and I ended up having my whole Tick-Tock algorithm
algorithm, just be different people talking about ADHD which
is how I found you. I think I probably found you
actually not as early as the summer.
I think I found you closer like August September.
Timber, because I remember that was when I was really like
hyper-focused, probably, which is ironic on finding out if I
had ADHD. And in a lot of the videos were
just fun. Facts about ADHD.
Like, hey, do you do this thing that you always thought was
normal? Or hey, if you've been doing
this thing, you might have ADHD. So I just, I looked up ADHD on
in the search bar on Tick-Tock and just watched pretty much any
video that showed up and that's I know that's not really Super
fun advice, but it's great, it's researching at your own pace,
like, I think that's phenomenal advice is you don't have to
learn it all at once. You don't have to become an
expert overnight, it's learn in like the time in the places that
you can like, I think that's wonderful.
Yeah, thank you. I also think that the texaco's
almost the perfect platform for that because it's so bite-sized.
And I don't have to commit any real effort, even though he ends
up committing hours of my time. We get to but you know you keep
thinking like well I've only there's only one more 10 second
video after this and with your lack of impulse control.
It's pretty simple to just keep going but then you're also
learning at the same time. So yeah I just kept watching.
And then eventually I started Googling my enjoying my own
research just because so many videos I was liking them and I
was like, okay, there's too many things too many similarities
here and then just through research, I ended up trying to
find a psychiatrist. Trust, I really didn't.
Give them a choice either in terms of diagnosing, me.
I just I told them, I was like, I know for a fact at this point,
like, without question I have ADHD, we're going to get me
medicated. And one thing that kind of sucks
about it is I still actually haven't found the medication.
That works for me. So I'm still operating on
basically no help. I have a therapy, I have a
psychiatrist which is great. That's definitely a huge step
and I'm very aware of how terrible our healthcare system
can be because I before I found them, I went through a few other
psychiatrists who are still running on the stigma that like,
you know, people born female, you know, maybe don't have it
because they're not showing the true symptoms and all this.
So, I had a lot of people kind of brush me off or not.
Give me the attention that I know I needed.
And just finding a psychiatrist period was super terrible and
then to finally find one to get my hopes up that they wouldn't
take me seriously also sucked. So I only got a psychiatrist
maybe two months ago and I really started taking this
seriously last summer, so it took me a year to even find a
psychiatrist. Who's willing to work with me
but I don't know. I'm super Newt in terms of
medication, and it's sucks because I'm dealing with all the
side effects of medication that isn't helping me in a long, Run.
So yeah, actually, it can be really tough.
And that's something that we hear a lot from people.
Yeah. Absolutely.
I think it's starting to take medication, he's like very much.
So the beginning of this huge journey and it's something to be
taken very seriously. I my greatest advice for my
greatest, my my most friend, my greatest advice race.
This shall be my cycle like a wise Sage was just a tutor to
note, everything and choose a confidant, somebody that He's
you all the time. Oh yeah.
Would recognize if you're behaving different in giving
them permission to say like, hey, you know, you haven't eaten
very much today or you notice, you haven't been sleeping,
right? Because when you have a DHD
those things are really hard to notice in yourself and then
also, I would suggest listening to that person.
Eric, if they tell you that you need to eat a meal, Eric, I do I
do. Well it's also her because I
also cook every meal for us it's true.
Just saying this is your it's okay, humble brag.
Okay, you just cook every meal for Erica.
He is, your turqu is a phenomenal, Chef.
Like, and we have this, like, really weird thing in our
partnership where Eric is incapable of caring for himself,
but will care for me. And I'm a capable of caring for
myself, but I will care for Eric.
And so like, we have this imperfect.
This very weird relationship where like, Eric will cook if he
knows he's going to feed me, but he won't cook for himself.
And so like, we've done like developed this, like very
wonderful and beautiful partnership.
Of like we just support each other by caring for the other
person. That if you only not expect that
feels really, really beautiful. It's like it's like the I don't
know like two misfit toys found each other and made it work.
I mean definitely is yeah, it makes me think this is kind of
one of those things in hindsight where now I realized that it was
somewhat ADHD adjacent but one of my best friends in college
who did have ADHD which wow it's all Hitting me in this exact
moment. Welcome, you sold out of podcast
breakthrough. Congratulations on having yours.
Welcome to my brain exploding on the spot, but my best friend in
college, she had ADHD. And I just never really thought
about it because I never did we just didn't talk about it.
I just knew it about her and that was it.
But I'm imagining that we were both kind of that similar
functional dysfunction, but perfect for each other.
Since I remember a lot of times, We would have whenever we would
get really stressed out. We would do something together
in terms of hygiene, which is actually really my brain is
blowing my mind. Hang on, hang on, maybe.
Okay, take, take 17, this happens.
A lot of the socket, we don't know why, but there's something
about it just like, I don't know.
That's the thing that happened. It's okay.
So we used to call each other, bro, because we would make,
we're making fun of all the other people who like
legitimately were in bromances and we call each other bro.
So we called each other bro. And we would have this thing
called bro. Brush where we would brush each
other's teeth together when we got really strict stressed out,
not each other's teeth. Well, you shouldn't Panic on
Eric's face. We would get that would, by the
way, would be very intimate. Oh yeah.
It'd be like the, like a champagne glass when you hook.
I remember, I think it started because she would say, the like
she had trouble remembering to brush her teeth or maybe like I
did or someone did. But it turned into whenever You
got really stressed, we would take a couple minutes and just
brush our teeth and we've just stand next to each other and
like hold each other accountable to like, calm down and it
probably the healthiest my teeth I've ever been because we brush
our teeth like 10 times a day. So, Eric has a very important
guys while I was watching. Yeah.
So, as this question of all of our guests because it's one of
my favorite questions ever in Katie's, I think you're sort of
limiting this. We're like you kind of
disapproved in the beginning but now you just lean in heart into
it i-it's my hatred of this question.
Is ironic. I know I can see in your eyes.
Do you think it's an amazing question?
I think it's because you haven't figured out what your answer is
yet. Anyways, the question is,
question, is as follows, would you rather?
If you could, you know fan. Oh, snap your finger, we didn't
talk about Marvel. Ya next time, man.
Kills just ran down my spine. So I've worked on.
Okay. We're going along.
What movies did you work on? I worked on from Guardians of
the Galaxy 2 to Captain Marvel. Wow, that's so cool.
And some capacity I left to right when they were just
starting to do very early stuff for and game would were you prop
person or a script? No, no.
I so my this is a if I don't know, I don't know who needs to
hear it but a lot of people think that because I worked in
props that means I was lucky enough to be on set and hanging
out. Celebrities all the time and
just like doing prop stuff in my weird little corner.
But I actually worked for essentially, a Walmart full of
fake props. It was like a massive massive
Warehouse of props. And each department was
responsible for a different, a different step in making the
props. Oh, I was in graphic.
So I was working with a lot of Photoshop people, and, like,
applying labels on products and things like that.
And there were different departments who worked on.
Paint or rubber molding or just plain old storage.
And so, I mean I didn't get to work it in and like a way that
most people think is super flashy and Hollywood, but the
way it was basically an arts and crafts office job where I would
get work orders and have to make things.
So I knew what I was working on and I would just have to wait
until I saw in the movie to see if it actually got on screen.
That's so cool. That's, that's kind of my dream
overlap of Our Lives is like, I know, fascinating to me.
Me like there. Ike.
I will fuck. I can't even talk about it yet
because it's not out, but there's like a thing that
happened at the Ren Faire, and I was like, part of it was like a
whole thing. I have to edit that part out.
It's funny. You said a thing that happened
at the Ren Faire, it as vague enough, plenty of egg, it's
plenty big. We will we've also been
watching. We're having a, I know where a
Marvel house will be having a Batman A Thon.
And really, just when I see all those miniature props and like
the things, like, if I could just sit in a warehouse for the
rest of my life and make those props it really it, Such a fun
job if it weren't for something as cool as the podcast coming up
I would have never quit it. I mean there were obviously it
was like any old job. So eventually some of the magic
ties and there's a lot of politics to it that I'm not a
big fan of, but in terms of like a cool job, we're not too much.
Was expected of me, but I got really nice.
Like, I got to see it on TV later.
That was like just the the dream.
So that's really cool man. We can definitely talk about
Marvel to eventually. Don't worry, we will chat after
the interview. I asked your damn question, my
question, my damn question. So if you could say and I'll
snap your fingers and become instantly fluent in every
language on Earth and eloquent and every language on Earth or
masterful at every instrument on Earth, which would you do?
Who. I guess.
I don't know. I want I want to say the
instruments because I look for the cool Factor but I also
really want to be able to talk to every single person in here
as much as drama from people as possible.
I want to know, everyone's weird family drama.
That's like my favorite thing in the whole world.
So I'm going to say that speaking in all languages for
the family drama for the family drama, that's purely for the
drama. We get a lot of different
answers to that question. Some people are like
immediately, like on it. They're just like, dude
language. Of course.
That's, that's I think that's the most Pacific and close to my
heart reason. Africa, I want to hear people's
family drama when you able to be able to go to anywhere and just
be like. So, tell me about your mother.
If I can have, if I could have a wild dream, it would be to be a
true fly on the wall for every real dramatic family
Thanksgiving dinner. Like, it's just so juicy and
perfect to me. One of the things that I do for
and that's why we drink Shameless plug.
By the way, is that on our patreon?
I do like Marvel Mondays. I do something called London.
Fog Fridays because I'm obsessed with blood and frogs from
Starbucks. There's another one I do called
tea time Tuesday where I drink tea while people submit their
drama and I anonymously like respond to it and so it's like
my favorite day of the week because I just gets we have a
90, a murderer account to which is kind of like horrific.
That's so many people chime in that, listen to our show and
they're like, oh, I know someone who has like a terrible story.
So a lot of the drama turns into that but I really live for the
like, And having an affair for nine years or I know my best
friend's been having an affair for nine years and because I'm
removed enough, I can appreciate it without judgment because it's
not part of my life but it seems to do very well is just knowing
other people's drama and doing nothing with it.
I just want the knowledge just want the knowledge.
I love that so much. That's thank you.
Wonderful. It's really like probably one of
like my worst personality traits in that unlike so eager to hear
other people's issues and then do nothing about it.
It but I really just I live for it.
Like just it's my dopamine Spike of just hearing like what's
going on in someone's life and I'm like, oh okay.
Well at least I'm not going through that.
That's like, would you like a free dopamine Spike before you
go, huh? I sure would this is a true
story about me. This is a real 100% true story.
I'm going to tell you. This is gonna be the end of the
podcast. It's a weird end of the podcast
but it's gonna be the end. I was best friends with my own
sister at summer camp for two years and I didn't know she was
my sister. Yeah, that's exactly.
Hang on my brain is vibrating. That's exactly what I need.
I, yeah, I like the movie Parent Trap.
I watched that movie as a child and I went.
Yeah, that's plausible because that really happened as she
wasn't my twin, but that's real thing to happen to me in my life
is that my own sister at summer camp, really?
And that's a of congratulations for your sister.
And all this is completely unnecessary story.
There you go. Know the one of the right eye.
So I 1 of 0 I never even mentioned this one of my Like
hyper fixations is my family tree, but one of the main
reasons I got an ancestry account was because I was
praying, I would find a random sibling in the mix.
I just wanted something like that and I didn't get it.
So I'm kind of actually mad at my parents for their
faithfulness and each other. Like I'm adopted.
But like I just found a new sister on Tick-Tock.
That's how I found out. I had another sister, there's
messages me on Tick-Tock. We're gonna have to talk about
this life and times. I don't know how we got here,
but you know what? It's an ADHD podcast deal with
it listed. There wasn't there wasn't a
tangent, it wouldn't make sense. All right.
Well this is the right that's a wrap up moment.
Yeah, the rap head. Do you want to do?
Wanna do you want to do like a little, a pluggy kind of deal or
something like that. That's where, you know, we know
we have, you know, we know you have a little small podcast just
up and kind of. Yeah, you know, just wanted to
throw you a bone. So thank, you know, my podcast
is called and that's why we drink we put out new episodes
every Sunday half of it is True crime, half it's paranormal.
I happen to be the Paranormal side where I talk about ghosts
and aliens and conspiracy theories.
Also, just to like, give a topical shout out the most
recent in the most recent weeks. We've also been covering more of
a darker few episodes where I'm doing a deep dive on cue and on
just because we found out a lot of people that listen to our
show are being affected by that and losing loved ones.
So even if you don't like Paranormal suffer, True Crime
stuff if you are And dealing with q and on in your life you
can hop over and listen to those episodes and get a little
instant education on that. So that's awesome.
That is awesome, cool. All right, what do you want to
cook? Well, I was just going to I was
guy was going to insecurely clarify that when I say that's
awesome. It's not awesome.
People. Just like I got some but you're
doing that. Well, thank you.
It was a quite a migraine to try to learn something that is in my
opinion, very illogical. So if it's helping someone then,
I do my job and work the work that you're doing is genuinely
important right now. And that's, that's yeah.
It is. That is awesome.
So, thank you. All right, I'm Schultz.
Thank you so much for being here if you're not listening to their
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We've never done, never done it that way before, but I don't
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