Before we start this episode. I just wanted to say a lot of
you been asking about tour dates.
Are we going to be at this place?
Are we going to go to that convention?
We're going to do a long sort of thing at the very end explaining
exactly where we're going to be and when we're going to be
there. So if you're interested in tour
dates, please stick around to the end of the episode.
Anyways, here we go. All right.
So we just started recording completely mid-conversation.
Then I realized like, wait a minute.
We should just start recording. Eric said something fascinating
film tells the the our dear listeners.
What you said? Well, it starts from.
There's a line in the show Scrubs, you know, show, Scrubs
iconic, television show, for the mid-2000s.
Yeah. I love between entire episode is
fantastic. Is, I'm pretty sure that they
sort of like three scrubs episode.
I've actually really ought to scratch out.
Fantastic. Anyway.
Okay. Sorry.
Anyway, yeah, there's a show. Where?
Somebody's talking to dr. Cox.
Who is one of the main characters?
He's not like the protagonist but one of the main characters,
he's an alcoholic. He's like just sort of miserable
all the time. Brilliant doctor though.
Anyways, somebody says to him at some point.
You're only happy when you're miserable and I was like 13.
When I heard that. I was like, how the fuck wet
doesn't make any sense. How could you only be happy when
you're miserable their mutually exclude?
You can either happy or miserable.
And so I tossed that an idea out of my head for like years and
years and years and until eventually I realized What I
think would be a better term. There is not happy but
comfortable, you're only comfortable when you're
miserable. Okay, because I identify with
that quite a bit. I think one of my big vices is
that I seek Comfort a lot. I'm always constantly like
trying to like lie down and scroll through my phone.
You know, like that's the most colorful map.
Are you take a lot of now? You take it ate an extraordinary
much. There's nothing wrong with CJ.
I've never known somebody who naps as hard as you.
Well. There's nothing wrong with
speaking of. No.
I just think it's something that's like useful to know about
Out in like monitor. Yeah, but anyways, I just think
it's really interesting. Like that was a big point in my
life when I realized I'm only it's not that I'm Only Happy
When I'm miserable. It's that I'm only comfortable
when I'm miserable when I'm happy.
Like if I like what I happy I don't notice how comfortable I
am because I'm like happy. So I'm just like doing stuff
being happy. But if I am happy and I notice
my comfort level. Like if I look at that gauge,
it's not as high as it is when I'm miserable misery is very
familiar territory for me. Do you?
Do you get uncomfortable when you're happy?
Because I do? Yeah, it's super uncomfortable.
Like I always like, I'm like, do I like today?
Like we went to the coffee shop, right?
And you were sitting there and you're sitting there.
I was like really nice and it was children that like we
weren't really doing anything. We're just sort of like vibing
and Bailey was there is beautiful day and it was sunny
and there's a table like, like shockingly stylish women across
like, like, offensively stylish. Like, I was like, I like I'm
here in my life, like a tank top, and they're like, like a
fashion model and I was like, I was like so happy.
And then I immediately got uncomfortable because I'm like,
it's fleeting. It's going away, not going to
last but you better Savor this like and then I was just got
sad. Oh, yeah, that's that's how my
life works. Like, well we used to have
probably this up, I cast before but I took a class called Tales
of the Jazz Age in high school. It was really fascinating and we
identified over the teacher used this term, the dying fall to
identify is very pretentious and I'm totally here for of that.
What does it mean? The dying fall?
It's from the Love. Song of Jay offered Prufrock.
The TSI, your program, or poem, there's a line.
And it says I hear the voices dying with a dying fall and it
basically is the moment. You know what, it sounds like a
really pretentious way, do describe a Wilhelm scream, if
all that's true, but it's the it's the term that we used in
class. Like I'm saying, this is like a
universal used term, but it's the term we used in that glass
to identify the moment when a character.
Eliza's the value and beauty and a moment.
Yeah, and therefore immediately is struck by the weariness of
the fleetingness of that moment. So the second you realize how
awesome a moment is so too, does a timer start that counts down
to the end of that moment because everything ends.
And so the moment you realize how nice a moment is, you must
also realize that it's not going fast for those two things come
together. And so, similarly, like, when
we, when you and I are having like a perfect moment like when
we're on The couch and we're like, watching some TV show, and
like, Bailey's there. And then, like, Bailey puts her
hand on your lap. And so, like, I put my head on
your shoulder and it's just like the nicest, sir.
It's perfect. Perfect moment when I noticed
that, I also noticed. Well, this isn't Gonna Last
Forever, you know, on both, unlike an immediate level like
this moment is going to end. Eventually the shows going to
end or we're going to go to sleep or whatever the hell but
also a much larger sense like, you know, one of us is gonna die
for her. See.
Sorry, but like I said, but You know, on every level the dying
fall is present in the only way to enjoy something without the
dying. Fall is not to notice the fact
that you're enjoying it, which is the marks.
Yeah. It's like trying to hold a
salmon, the harder. You try to hold on to it, the
more elusive. It is also.
Sorry. Everybody listen to this
podcast. I have terrible allergies.
I literally just take a coma test.
I'm fine. I've horrible allergies after
moving to Georgia. And today is like the worst
allergy day. I've had like forever.
Those arms can be a hacking through his pockets.
That's right, sweetie. We're leaning away from the mic
when you do it as it also, I would just like to say that t.s.
Eliot, like he had a few good ideas but t.s.
Eliot also wants called Titus andronicus the stupidest and
most unimaginable original plays ever written and he is an
original. What he said though was it was
one of the stupidest and most uninspired plays ever written.
I'm pretty sure that whatever I'm gonna look it up.
This why, what is it memorize for a while?
Because it was the starting of who's part of my thesis.
Yeah, one of the stupidest and most uninspired place, ever
written. What were his arguments?
Just hated it. He thought it was terrible.
But I would say and then he, this was the punchline for my
like thesis presentation was like, this is also coming from
the man who gave us James Corden and cats because like we had to
suffer through that because of t.s.
Eliot. So, frankly dying fall my ass
everybody, it's me, Katie Soros. I forgot those inch.
Oh, yes. I hello, it's me again.
You'd we are we were doing that cool thing where we setting up
with the podcast and sometimes Eric and I just have like really
lovely deep conversations and really start recording two ways
to do. With it.
And so, but yeah, but actually, today's topic is, is, is ripped
straight from the headlines. If this was an episode of SVU,
I'm sure guy would be like, we're about two weeks later in
the headlines. Two weeks later.
Well, that's like that was always like the timeline of SVU
is because like your turn will come out and then they would
like Panic. Right?
In episodes. Really bright?
Really great in that sort of like a my it to settle like I
didn't want to talk about it while like hot takes were still
coming out. I wanted to lay a way to see
what. Yeah, but Going to be talking
about is a super meta. Eighty HD content on Tick-Tock
on Tick-Tock specifically Tick-Tock.
Yeah, because I've so I'm making a lot of non directly ADHD
content lately. I've been making a lot of
crafting content because I fucking love it and it's doing
well, which makes me very happy. It's still, it started as a THC
content, people ask me quite frequently.
Like, why do I call it? Athe, crafting, cotwell
challenges. And it's like, well, because it
started as I'm supposed to be doing something else, but you
just mentioned something in my brain.
Like Like all the sudden just couldn't fucking stop thinking
about it along with some other reasons that is perhaps for
another episode. But anyway, I haven't been doing
like straight e HD content because frankly, I don't want to
make educational content. If I'm not very sure that what
I'm educating about or talking about is correct.
Yeah, if it's just absolutely correct and it kind of scares me
one, the idea that I could mislead someone that I could
just be flat-out wrong about something.
Well, not not that I'm wrong, but I'm not afraid of being
wrong, but I'm afraid of being wrong about something in nobody
telling and then not finding out that I'm wrong about something.
We're, um, because then it's just, yeah, it's terrifying.
And I also worry a lot when I do, like, you know, my own
experience content. When I talk about like, what my
experience with ADHD is like, yeah.
I always get a lot of comments of either people saying I have
ADHD, but I don't do that. So maybe I don't have it.
It HD or I have ADHD. Or I do do that.
Then that therefore I definitely have it HD.
Yeah, this is just not the case and I've made a hundred million
videos making like saying like just because one person's
experience with ADHD is some way does not mean that everybody is
experience with ADHD is going to be that way or if you have that
experience, then you have ADHD and just but no matter how many
times you clarify that there's always going to be a group of
people who frankly are now operating under false
information. Yeah, like when I got it I got
Comment on one of my just like random.
I do remember, which I think it was the loading screen one where
I talk about having ADHD is like trying to read a loading screen.
Message that goes away too quickly.
Like your have a thought in your like.
Oh, it's there all fuck. It's gone in a bunch of people
in the comments said, like, I don't do that.
I must not like I thought I had ADHD, but I don't feel that way.
So I must not and that really just scares the shit out of me
and the idea of like putting that out into the world and
making people I feel worse about their mental health rather than
better. Yeah, is it really scary thing
to me? So anyways, just that's sort of
what I've been thinking about with ADHD content and why I've
been sort of Leaning away from it or at least letting it settle
in my stomach a little bit because I really want to
re-evaluate like what my place is in this community.
Yeah. Well and I think that's
important but we need to backtrack a little bit because
yes, excuse me. I cover more ground that I'm
into it. Sorry.
It's so basically if you didn't hear a couple of weeks hero.
I'm going to call it a study and I feel like I study is very
generous word to youth. Was it basically a group of
researchers looked at and I want to be very clear 100. 100 180 HD
Tic Tacs or will take talks about ADHD using and this is
another sort of like Bing only the hashtag ADHD.
So basically they went on to tick tock they searched hashtag
ADHD, and then they looked at the first hundred videos that
popped up and they excluded videos that didn't have anything
to do with ADHD, or if it was just like a person who had ADHD.
So they were like using the Bag is like, I'm part of this
community. But this video is just like, you
know, a dance Trend or whatever. And then out of that, that set
of 100 video. So I think it wound up being
like, they may be looked at 150 to eliminate, you know, the
videos that didn't have anything to do with it.
Eh, I think I think it was exactly one thing.
They like they found the top 100 that had to do with ADHD.
I'm sorry, but there are some in the top 100 that are like a
dance trend of just a very popular Tick-Tock reader.
But like who'd like just has ADHD, you know what I mean?
So out of those top 100 collection, they looked and they
were like, okay how many of these are presenting factual
information and of that factual information?
How much of that information is correct?
And how much of that information is either like misleading or
not, correct? And basically of that like a
hundred video, it was what it was like, 70% 52, 52.
So 52 percent of those videos were determined to be
misleading. And this study made headlines
like this study had a lot of media coverage and like a lot of
coverage on Tick Tock in both like Pro, the pro world and the
con world, but I have so many fucking issues with this study.
Like I don't even know where the fuck to begin.
But one thing that I think it did highlight was the idea of
what is misleading information. What is incorrect information
because like There's a difference between, you know,
saying, I don't even have a good example, but, you know, it's
like plants are green because they need the sun to survive.
Like, that's technically a correct statement, but it's
misleading in that it leaves out the rationale behind it and
excludes in important mention of chlorophyll, you know what I
mean? So like a lot of the videos that
are made on the ADHD. Hashtag are either frankly.
A wildly incorrect, you know everybody with ADHD is secretly
a mind reader. We all can read minds like no
baby. That's the trauma.
That's what that is.
That's, that's his trauma. You're not fucking psychic, your
fucking you have trauma. Um, and then there's like the
secondary of, like, people just being flat out fucking wrong.
And it was it's tough as to people who educate about ADHD
for our jobs, because now, we, Of people looking at what we do
in a way that we frankly never had before and you will notice
are well. I have noticed that it was right
around the time that that article came out that boy did my
numbers drop boy, did my shit Target suppressed doodly doodly
deal and I mean, it's not even it's not that but here's the
thing and it also ties like this is a little conspiracy theories,
but it's really not because like on the fucking record, but a lot
of those online therapy apps like done.
And Sure help. In those things that are can be
somewhat duplicitous and somewhat, you know, shall we say
profit-oriented, they pulled out of advertising on Tick-Tock and
they pulled out of advertising on Instagram because they're
asked if getting pulled down for misinformation.
And so when that happened, a lot of the advertising Revenue, that
Tick-Tock was getting the surrounding mental, health
content left, the platform, and so Tick-Tock has stopped
showing. People as much mental health
content, like mental health content, across the board like
viewership and stuff has gone down because of and so when you
have the situation where there is a lot of misinformation, but
also like the study itself is a study in misinformation.
It's really frustrating, you know, and so I don't like I
don't know if you had like a specific thing that you want to
talk about about it, but that's kind of where I'm at is like I'm
just really frustrated about the fact that like, You can work so
hard to be ethical and research well and do everything
correctly. But ultimately at the end of the
day, like we are still at the whim of an algorithm that is
absolutely impacted by outside sources, like advertising
Revenue being pulled by, you know, therapy companies or group
of board. Researchers designed that 180 HD
videos are like indicative of a platform of millions of people.
It takes me a week to make 100 videos like less than a month of
like content. Like I don't understand.
Yeah. Well, I mean for one it just for
the study. I want to clarify that the
researchers in this study did what researchers do which is
when they're going to conduct the study.
They looked at how other similar studies were conducted.
And then follow those methods, it does it.
Make it good, doesn't make it good, but they either way they
did. It wasn't duplicitous.
It was they were doing an honest job.
If not a good one. They were still doing.
Is I don't think they're doing it to be like sneaky are bad,
but they did a shitty job. And it's also I mean, it's also
I think an impossible task. I mean, we're talking there are
millions and millions and millions of ADHD YouTube videos
on Tick-Tock, you know, and so I think even the undertaking
itself is like, how do you, how do we quantify that you've
broken don't like, you can't like in and every hour there are
several thousand more. Yeah, but there's also like a
sociological context to it, that bothers me because like there's
there's a fundamental lack. Lack of understanding about how
the platform works in the choice to use hashtag ADHD because I
specifically on nearly all of my videos.
I never use hashtag ADHD because hashtag ADHD is a lot of times
uses like low ADHD. Yeah, like, oh my God.
I'm so wacky. You hashtag ADHD, right?
Where is like if they had looked at ADHD education or ADHD
Advocate or any like anything that was more educational
leader? Then I think that still would
have been far more informative. But instead you wound up with
the top 100 videos that are mostly memes, mostly very
generalized content and mostly I don't want to say wholesale or
intentionally misleading because I think people don't intend to
like they don't wake up and say I'm gonna lie to people on the
internet but like I keep coming back to the mind-reading one
because that is one that keeps coming up in my world of like,
well, I'm not good at telling what people are thinking I
guess. S, I don't have ADHD or like,
yeah, I tend to know what people are thinking.
I must be magic as opposed to, like I'm hyper aware because I'm
traumatized from living in a world as an undiagnosed
neurodivergent person who was told over and over and over
again, that I was doing things wrong and I'm constantly like
hyper Village like Vigilant and like Piper like looking for
people to be mad at me and I'm like, that's a real problem and
that's a real issue that needs to get solved by very Real
therapy. That's not make a tick.
Talk about how like, oh, I don't like the vibe.
So I must be psychic. I just I don't like it and like
whether or not you believe is like, psychics as a whole.
Like that's not what I'm talking about, you know, believe what
you want in terms of that. But like, in conversation with
this idea that like, knowing if somebody is mad at you or
whatever, that's not being psychic that's hyper-vigilance
as a result of trauma or just being a perceptive person.
It doesn't have to be trauma at all, but it's So misinformation
either way. Well, I think one of the things
that I wanted or that I feel and think about making it easy.
Tick-Tock eighty HD content on Tick-Tock and I think, I think
that video is a good sort of case study.
So there was a video posted a while ago, by a Creator.
I mean, there's been more than once, here's our spirit and
there's a bunch of them. Now, there was a notably
successful one and then there were several after that.
We're basically the premise of the video is people with ADHD
are basically psychic. It didn't necessarily claim that
we're literally In some magical way, they were talking about how
people with ADHD do this. We are able to predict whatever
but it was big, either way. It was a very experienced
oriented thing. Yeah.
It was. This person saying, for me, it's
sometimes feel like I'm psyche, which if you really work
carefully, if you really say, you know, for me, it sometimes
feels like I'm psychic because I can whatever.
And you really Express that this is a personal experience thing.
Sometimes it feels like this is the case if you really were to
care. Ali.
I could I could understand I could I want to say, I would get
behind it, but I could understand where they're coming
from. They're trying to make light of
something, you know, of something that is relevant to
their mental disorder, which is, I think there's a place for, you
know, making light of things that can be trauma basis.
The problem is when, you know that that video is going to be
seen by a fuck, Jillian of people, you have to be very
precise about your language because it's really not about
what you say. It's about what people are going
to hear. Yeah, and what really scares the
shit out of me is I've noticed that if you just come out and
say, people with ADHD are basically psychic, which this
very popular person did, people are going to hear people with
ADHD are basically psychic. However, if you do the other end
of the one that I was pitching before, if you clarify very
precisely and choose your language, very carefully to make
it clear that you're using an analogy to clarify a personal
experiences of yours. If you do all the right stuff
can or what I consider to be the right stuff.
When you're Are talking about personal experiences clarifying
that this is an objectively, true.
This isn't sign space. This is just me talking about my
personal experience. Even if you do all that stuff, a
vast portion of people are still going to hear just that one part
people with ADHD or basically psychic and that's what scares
the ever-loving fuck out of the matter.
Like as a Creator, no matter how much I call or qualify and
clarify that. I'm speaking from personal
experience. This is an across-the-board,
true. This isn't based on science
done. This is just what it Like
sometimes no matter how much I clarify, I still get a huge
percentage of people who watch any given video, who seemingly
think that I'm saying that it is blanket, true.
And this is true for you and this is true for everybody and
if it's not true for you, then you don't have ADHD either way.
I've always, you know, since I started making tick-tocks about
ADHD, I've always sought to be very clear when I'm referencing
science. Like this stuff is studied, you
know, this this stuff is resolved to be true in the
consensus statement or whatever or one study comes out that
suggest something. Now everybody remember, this is
just one study. We don't know for sure.
Like, whenever I'm talking about science.
I try to be very clear. Exactly what I'm saying.
And whenever I'm talking about personal experience, I try to
make it very clear that I'm talking about personal
experience in this is not rooted in science.
This is rooted in my own experience, all that stuff.
But after almost two years, well, yeah.
Jesus almost two years of being on Tick-Tock making content like
as close to every day. As I can get, I started
realizing that There's no. In a lot of ways, there's not
really a difference because it doesn't matter what you say.
It matters, what they hear and that's what sort of scares the
shit out of me about ADHD. Tick-Tock got tet.
Is it seemingly? No matter how fastidious you are
about your wording. There are going to be a large
portion of well-meaning. Good people who take it in a way
that is harmful to their mental health and harmful their to,
their understanding of their own ADHD, or their own
neurodivergent. See ya and that scares the
living fuck out of me. It also makes me mad that some
people Go, I don't give a fuck. Give me those views and they
like yeah, I mean that's what I get frustrated about.
Like I'm thinking. This also ties really well into
that fucking tweet that Elon Musk sent out about like how one
time he heard from somebody that will butyrin isn't a good drug.
So therefore should be completely taken off the market
and and Adderall can cause anger issues.
So therefore everybody should steer clear of Adderall doing I
made a video about it and actually, A lot of creators made
a video about it and was fascinating to see the results
of those videos because almost every Creator had the same
experience where we all sat down and we made a video.
We're like, let's talk about this statement.
Let's talk about how dangerous this is.
Let's talk about the responsibility of having a
platform and whatever and a bunch of people came into the
comments and they either said, they said, one of two things
they said so you're just so you're saying that, you know,
Elon Musk doesn't have a right to free speech and I was like,
no, I did not. That God.
And the second one was, well, I had a bad experience and
Wellbutrin there for, like people deserve to be informed
about it, and he's right to say something.
And I'm like from Elon Musk, is does not count as being
informed, well, and then informed about what bullshit
Elon Musk tweeted. Well, and it's like, and I got
so in the vibe with Kai, who is a creator that I love and admire
so deeply had the same thing happen to him.
This morning. He made a video about, like,
hey, Wellbutrin literally saved my Life.
It literally is the thing that kept me alive.
And somebody is like, yeah, well, and some other Creator
posted a real shitty video that was, you know, about like well I
had a bad experience and I was like, yeah different for
everybody that's a point of the video like, you know, and I was
like and I just I felt for him so much because it was, it was
that same thing. I was like I am not saying lie,
saying that Elon Musk does not have a right to say, whatever
the fuck he wants but saying whatever the fuck you want when
you have 90 million followers on a platform that you're going to
own in three days. That carries far more social
responsibility and ethical responsibility than just some
random, you know, with, with like, does yelling into the
parking lot at Denny's. Like, I don't like Adderall like
great cool, nobody cares, but when you have a platform, you
have a Social and ethical responsibilities, you have a
moral responsibility whether or not it's against the law whether
or not like, you know, could I get on Tick Tock and just tell
All lies about ADHD for views. Yes.
I absolutely could and sometimes Eric on days like today where I
got 86 whole new followers because Tick-Tock is suppressing
the fuck out of my content for whatever fucking reason
sometimes I'm really fucking time mad.
Now, sometimes I'm really fucking tempted to make a real
salacious video or really like brought over a little overly
generalized video or make the video about like, did you ever
like feel like you're setting, you know, but Morally, I can I'd
like as an as an educator and an advocate.
I can't bring myself to do it and the the the anger and the
frustration, and the bed up itness that I feel looking at
people like Elon Musk and some of like the larger craters on
Tick-Tock who just go on and say whatever the fuck they want to
say for the views are like for the like, oh, you know.
I'm going to be controversial and Stirrup used, that is
hurting people. It's hurting people.
It's negatively affecting people's mental health and it's
just like, I'm scared all the time to like, I like, I work
really hard to be right. I work really hard to do the
research and read the studies, and quote, the studies properly,
and make sure that what I'm saying comes with you.
No good research and fact. And, you know, but even then the
same thing happens to me like, oh, well, this doesn't happen to
me. Therefore.
I must not have ADHD or, you know, whatever it may be.
And it's just I don't know. It's like sometimes I really
wonder like am I doing good? Like am I actually doing good?
Because it's like for every person who says yeah, you know
like your content is help me, are there other people who are
watching my talk content going. Well, I did bad in school and
she talks a lot about being, you know, burned-out gifted kids.
So, I must not have ADHD or whatever like misplaced
assumption that they have. And I don't know, you know, it
just makes me sad because it's like, I got into this to help
people and the more that I do this in the heart, but like, it
feels like the harder I work, the more pressure.
There is two Be something for everybody in a way.
That's just impossible. You know.
Yeah. I mean, I think there's a danger
in generality. Yeah.
Both in making General statements, but also just trying
to make I think the more General your content is the less.
Well, that's a larger claim that I want to make, but I mean it
certainly makes you want to D specify or D specialized.
Yeah, you know, I mean, that's why I think I've, I think I've
been doing this subconsciously, but the more I think about it,
it's sort. Comes to more into my regular
Consciousness, but I've been rather than trying to say
specific things about my experience with ADHD or even
specific things about studies and shit coming out about ADHD.
I just want to be unabashedly a person who has ADHD.
Yeah, just doing stuff. So that, you know, I mean, one
of the most, the best things that has happened to me in like
a year. Probably more than that or the
most like spiritually, nurturing also.
Was when I made I posed, a crafting challenge to tick tock
I said make me a bridge at a tape or a hammock out of tape
that can hold as many eggs as possible and a bunch of like
kids, you know, like 12 13 year-old kids would sent they
sent me their videos. They only tag me in their little
videos and they're like sitting there and just like a room, you
know, and their parents won't buy them like, you know, power
tools and whatnot. So, I just got a craft with
whatever they have and they're like saying, okay.
I'm I didn't have this so I had to go downstairs in front of the
island as I was rummaging through my dad's workshop and I
found this thing and actually turns out of works pretty well.
And like that was me as a kid to now like that was me as a kid
and liked it felt so useless to do that.
Like it felt like, you know what, I had nobody was buying,
you know, I didn't do my homework on time.
I couldn't do the reading but I could do that.
Like I could have some weird idea on a Saturday and make it
work. Despite the fact that I don't
have a car and can't drive to Home Depot, and the fact that
those kids got to spend it. Doing that is the most
meaningful thing in the world to me.
And so, I've been trying to lately, just be period, just be
the person that I have always been that.
I've never fed, never felt valuable that never felt
employable, but just do that and That because you can't
misinterpret that, you know, you can't misinterpret seeing a guy,
happy doing weird, random shit and those fucking kids man.
I just hope they know that. I love you.
I love you too, sweetheart. Well, hey, that's it for this
episode. I like that the weird.
Like I got so mad and then Eric got super emotional and I was
just like a really like that was like a very like ADHD episode.
Like I just feel there's an emotional range, that was
emotionally all over the place, but I'm fine with it.
Speaking of being all over the place.
Hey, I did not see. People is segue.
We actually have a bunch of stuff to talk to y'all about or
in terms of where we're going to be what we're doing were really
really excited. Um, but the so this next segment
is going to be a little bit long, but please listen because
it may pertain to you. Yeah, if you live in the
following Lisa's. Yeah.
So basically we are getting our tour dates set.
For the rest of the summer and into fall.
And we have some really, really exciting ones coming up.
First and foremost. We're going to be at Frolic on
in Atlanta, in starting May 12. So just in a couple of weeks, so
if you see us there, say hi, unless you're naked, then, wait
until you're wearing clothes, then say, hi, because I get
awkward. It's fine.
We're also going to be at Momo Con in Atlanta and then we're
venturing all the way to scenic. On New York for No Coke on June
10th through the 12th. And then we're going to be back
at play on Con in Alabama. We love play on con is our one
year Conover. Surrey.
Of that was our first contest. There was a freshman in my first
day. First day living in Atlanta.
Yeah. We rocked up to my house at 4:00
in the morning. Through our shit in the washer
slept for like three hours and left for play on con because are
like the car had broken loose. Fucking journalist drove the
rented, U-Haul. Like yeah, to this, look a
little location in the woods. Like you're going to be doing
that. After that.
We're going to be at gencon August 4th through the 7th in
Indianapolis. We're only sorry you go.
Well, I was gonna say we're gonna be doing a live show with
ice cream. Yeah.
We're going to be doing a live show with an incredible cast.
We've got a live DVD, we've got ice cream.
We've got with Jack. We've got a great gentleman.
We've got so. Oh God fuck.
I forgot a bunch of them. But there it's going to be so
dope. It's going to be the best thing.
I'm Super excited. Then we're going to be a cheese.
It's rag on card and car going on in Atlanta.
We're VIP guests Dragon. Really?
Yeah, we're all. So I'm gonna announce it now to
keep myself accountable, because if you've made it to this part
of the podcast, you might care about this kind of thing.
I want to make a site of lost, Grace from Elden ring, these
little little things that are like glowy and whatnot.
They're sort of if, you know, you know what they are.
Anyway, so I'm going to be there with a site of lost Grace.
You know, sitting there refilling my flasks and stuff
that you should have, like, you should have like water bottles.
Like you have like a little like, oh, yeah, like snacks.
We have like snacks right new goal.
I'm gonna get the actual thing done early.
So then I can make a bunch of cool like elixir flasks and
stuff like that. Maybe that'll be dope.
That'd be pretty cool. Okay.
So the next one is a really big announcement.
We are going to be very fancy. VIP guests on the geek bone,
which is a cruise that is happening November 7th through
the Teams, what is a big deal about it?
Is that we are going to be running.
I believe, three different D&D, one shots on the cruise.
So we're going to be dming. This is also I think news for
Eric In This Moment based on his facial real, shall we were going
to do like what we did at Monica, we're going to do, we're
going to be doing a live podcast, but we're also going to
be doing one shots that you can play with us on the croquet.
So we're dming the one shown here, and I think we're also
doing a live podcast. I need a check.
But if you want to check that out, you can go to geek
vote.com. But like I said, it's a cruise
but tickets are there selling really well.
So if you're like, hey, I always wanted to go on a cruise and I
also want to hang out with Katie Couric and, like, half the cast
of Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah, right.
Well, thanks. Mr. Mr. Gibbs is gonna be there.
The guy with the guy with the spine, in his eye, and the fork
in his eye. He's gonna be there.
There's like, yeah, there's like a weirdo Of care of actors who
were on Pirates, of the Caribbean who are going to be
coming on the screws as well. Which will, I'm just saying, I'm
fucking winning piracy, you really winning piracy you have
downloaded a car. I have, I have doubt, I would
download a photo. It's funny.
I want that was fun. And lastly, I, we are going to
be doing Spanx giving in St. Louis, which is another BDSM /
convention. So we are, we're getting around,
but we're also trying to do it, you know, safe as we possibly
can. So we're taking sort of, like, a
months in between things just to make Sure, that everybody's
safe. Everybody's healthy all of that,
good stuff. But if you were like, oh God,
damn it. I live in Utah, and you're not
coming to Utah. Reach out to your local con
reach out to your local convention.
Most of the conventions that were were picking up these days
and getting invited to our just because folks in whatever Town
had emailed the organizers and said, hey, we know these people
and frankly we want, we want to get around.
We want to tour were really excited cons and tours, or some
of our Best opportunities to meet our community, and get to
know you all looking at you. You know who you are, you know,
you know the OG friends, the OD friends, the super the super
cool kids, right? Is, you know, who you be?
So, yeah, so please if you want more information or whatever you
can go to infinite Quest podcast.com Slash tour dates and
that is where all of that information lives.
We got links to all of those different conventions is getting
really long, but we got a lot of conventions to go to.
Yes, and if you got Not, if you made it this far, the secret
code word is blip. Blop.
You don't stop that was off the top of my head was really good.
I didn't even I didn't even start taking improv training.
That was so good. But yeah, so so that's it.
I'm but, like I said earlier, we are really this this year, 22,
into 23. We are, you know what I'm gonna
can, I have five minutes to be vulnerable.
So I'm really struggling with tech talk.
I think I've been very At this Eric, on the other hand is
fucking crushing Tick-Tock. And so, it's like, it's great.
So any money but Choi, it's one of those things where, like, as
we continue to sort of move our audiences in our, in our
platform to other places. What we are realizing is that we
have a community, we have we've built a community and it's
amazing, and it's extraordinary, and we are so grateful for all
of you. And so your support is what
allows us to do stuff like to were and meet you all and play
Dungeons and Dragons. And all of the wonderful
incredible stuff that we get to do to add my God, Advocate and
educate about neurodiversity and accessibility and it really
means a lot to us. So if you are interested in
checking out those cons feel free, but also, you know, what
is free, you know, what doesn't cost you a dime Marino Nary, a
cent, tell your friends about us.
Tell your enemies about us, like too many times, like that really
annoying with them? Like annoy your enemies with us.
Do that thing like in the old high school movie.
Where you go to like the top of the stairs, and throw a bunch of
Flyers down. And they would like, like,
everywhere School. You gotta throw you, like, all
the papers up there, but just have it be Flyers about
Infinity, minus 48, Chad's house.
His parents were at the boat house.
We're gonna go punch. Don't step boats there.
But what's one of the things with infinite Quest is that your
support is, what makes this possible.
And a lot of that has to do with word of mouth and and, you know,
writing to your convention organizers and telling us or
telling them about us or, you know, having us on your podcast
or You know, inviting us to play D & D on your stream or
whatever. We want to do that stuff.
So, please always feel free to reach out.
You can email us a task and infinite Quest, podcast.com., We
are always around, we are always eager.
We are always willing if we can make it work with our schedule,
but we want to keep growing infinite Quest and we want to
keep making this a thing that we get to do every week and we keep
looking forward to it every week.
So if you don't mind supporting us that way, we would certainly
be grateful and if you want to toss a Buckaroo, our way you can
do that. Visiting patreon.com slash
infinite Quest, but I have talked for fucking forever.
So I'm going to shut up. So, from all of us here.
Every request, take your drink water, eat your snacks meds
meds. Remember remember, kindness
medication, five gum, five fields, and remember we love
you.