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took us to the downtown, Flint 
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speaker. 
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in the county. 
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students to hear the speaker. 
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was the scourge of General 
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the hometown, the birthplace of 
General Motors. 

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So to hear Ralph Nader speak to 
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In the birthplace of his sworn 
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remember being so inspired by 
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And almost deciding at that 
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different kind of life, I had to
I had to be active. way that 

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nobody really taught us to be as
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that day, that stuck with me 
forever and Ralph Nader to me 

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was a hero Years. 
Later years later, I found 

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myself out of a job and Ralph 
Nader, heard about that and said

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come to d.c., he'll work for me.
I'll give you a job and that's 

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what I did. 
I went to Washington DC and I 

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worked at Ralph's headquarters 
for a couple of years. 

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It was really a exciting time. 
I learned a lot. 

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I put out a little weekly media 
critique news. 

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Is letter called The Morris 
weekly and he funded it and 

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provided the office space and 
the staff, and it was quite a 

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good thing. 
But through my adult years, I've

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also had a complicated 
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and after a couple of years 
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decided to make my first movie 
Roger and me about flint and 

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General Motors. 
He didn't like that and said, It

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was time to end the Endeavor and
so I was once again out of a job

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and continued making the film 
collecting unemployment while 

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making it no income. 
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it become a, you know, a big hit
people in his office publicly 

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were critical of the film and it
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of a felt like some kind of 
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Rail. 
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you can't try to figure out it's
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him. 
But over the years, he continued

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to do all the good work that he 
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people today forget or not don't
even know that. 

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We wouldn't have things like an 
Environmental Protection Agency.

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Like a national highway safety, 
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all these rules and regulations 
and things. 

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Is to save lives and and protect
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and on and I can't, it would 
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tell you all the good Ralph 
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lives. 
He had saved hundreds of 

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thousands, maybe millions of 
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Never would have been a seatbelt
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be oh my God, I could just go 
down the hole again. 

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It's you get the point and so 
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president, president in 2000 and
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actually for a decade or two 
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writing about and talking about 
the situation with our 

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environment with our planet, 
nobody was talking about this 

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stuff and Ralph was and in the 
green party was and I thought 

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the green party was a good idea 
that the Democratic party needed

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a something on its left to nudge
it push it poke it, do whatever.

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What was needed to be done to 
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society and try to save this 
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And so Ralph's idea was that we 
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the ballot and every state. 
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need is five percent of the vote
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Americans, who vote voted for 
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Green party would stay on the 
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That's not 5% per state it just 
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know nobody voted for the green 
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the other 30 States equaled, 5% 
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country, then the green party 
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he would go and campaign in the 
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That would not hurt the 
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In this case, it was Al Gore. 
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States, like, California, and 
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already going to go blue or red,
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Democrat, Texas, you know, 
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There you know, there's no way 
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win Texas and Actually most of 
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the swing states where it might 
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And so I and I don't use a whole
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known people people much more 
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Vedder Pearl, Jam and Patti 
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of people. 
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speak at rallies to play at 
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We had great turnouts, things 
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time for the debate commission 
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the presidential. 
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presidential debates and Al Gore
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Not be allowed on the stage 
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it would it would hurt him but 
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to hurt him was just to go and 
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was kind of Of a, you know, 
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was going to win that state, but
one score went about convincing 

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successfully the debate 
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Nader in the debates. 
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Ralph and Ralph no longer cared 
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hurting Gore, and decided to 
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And this one back on what he 

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promised to do to myself and And
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We couldn't allow George w-- 
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That what Ralph was doing was 
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that in the last week before the
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I put together my own tour of 
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I thought this was going to come
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build the tour as an aider voter
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my pitch was look I live in New 
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New York state by a huge margin.
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for Ralph Nader and I will vote 
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state. 
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close here and you don't have 
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If you like Ralph and your for 
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voters in Florida to please vote
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my last one of the last night 
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in Tallahassee. 
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and I walked out onto the onto 
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Jeb Bush. 
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he walks over to me and he holds
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Shake my hand and he says, to 
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pay you to come down here and I 
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Of course they didn't pay me 
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morning in the Tallahassee 
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effect of Mater. 
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and once I got the front page of
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you know, this is not of course 
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They wanted all the native 
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there and vote for Nader. 
And here, I was Criss crossing 

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the state telling Nader voters 
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Of that in Florida. 
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You got to vote for Gore. 
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White House, so was I 
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the votes a year later, they 
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In fact, one, but Daddy, bushes 
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Would let the vote be finished 
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Over of Sonny's candidacy. 
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Supreme Court, ended up 
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saying that the new president of
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And that was that. 
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ended up blaming blaming Ralph 
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they were making the assumption 
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had been no green party on the 
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and I knew that was a false 
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Because a lot of these green 
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Democrat and they would have 
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became the Mantra and people 
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Ralph Nader. 
I didn't catch a whole lot of 

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crap from people mainly because 
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the swing States, you had the 
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dime. 
Did my own tour in the week? 

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Leading up to the election of 
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that state would not vote. 
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but not vote for Nader either. 
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really let down by Ralph and 
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That, that part, I'm guilty of 
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I made the assumption that Ralph
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But he was angry, he had a right
to be angry, he should have been

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kept out of the debates, 
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bush and then we ended up in a 
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We also were attacked in Bush 
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9/11 attacks that Osama Bin 
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United States probably via 
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He was on vacation and chose to 
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that he received from the 
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And and so there was no 
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off guard on 9/11 2001. 
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And it made the idea that if 
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he'll even worse to anybody who 
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especially to Ralph and he 
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nobody, you know, he was no 
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He was not invited to anything. 
He was a pariah and he and I 

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didn't talk to each other for a 
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It was really the second time 
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I've been let down by him. 
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You can't take any of this too. 

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Personally, and really isn't 
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It's not about me. 
It's about what happened to this

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country and its what happened to
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As a result of having George W. 
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And so there, I was two weeks 

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ago, not even two weeks ago. 
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I wanted to be there for the 
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Didn't know if we could get in 
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Hill of our congressmen from 
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could get me tickets to get in. 
And as I open the door to enter 

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his office, there is Ralph Nader
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It kind of I was in shock for a 
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greeted him. 
We got talking a little bit 

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about what he was doing and what
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He was going from door to door 
to different members of Congress

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to give them his new book. 
This is that a pietschmann day. 

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He's literally delivering books 
to members of Congress. 

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But I had heard over the years 
from members that actually, they

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talked to Ralph and his staff 
quite often Ralph is still going

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20 years after that fateful 
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Here's where I live. 
Mater. 

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Still at work. 
Still these 85 years old. 

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Still doing this. 
Still fighting the fight, and 

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still having a staff, do all 
this research and they used this

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research. 
I mean, members of Congress are 

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using research done by Rob's 
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This has been going on for 
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Public doesn't know this, but 
they, but they've maintained, 

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especially certain Democrats 
have maintained a relationship 

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with his office because of 
because he's the man, he's the 

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guy that's done the work. 
He's the guy that does the 

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research and all the people, all
the young people in his office 

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that do All this work, all the 
young women and men there that 

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do this research and share it 
with Congress, all in the 

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interest of helping us. 
You and me, and there was Ralph 

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right there, standing there on 
impeachment day. 

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And I said, so, what have you 
been up to? 

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And he said, well, number of 
things I'm really working, 

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really fighting Boeing. 
Now, with the 737 Max Jets, you 

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know, the to that crashed in one
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Shh. 
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sounds like something Ralph 
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and, and Dan was standing there,
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He said, yeah, it sounds like an
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altitude, we all kind of laughed
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would be a good book. 
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great niece was on the plane in 
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I said, I'm really sorry to hear
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So now she was really, she has 
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She was, she was a good woman, 
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Africa, and, and she's dead now 
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on these two crashes and his 
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said I'm not going to let them 
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I know we're supposed to call go
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It's happening right now. 
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the all these years. 
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And I said, I said to the 
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we use your office here? 
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in come right in here and give 
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almost almost 20 years and and 
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now my half hour or so, with an 
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common good. 
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you listening to this. 
I want you to consider that 

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perhaps, maybe, maybe it's time 
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It's time for some Redemption. 
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doesn't need any forgiveness and
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but I think that we need 
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Now all hands on deck to get rid
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you'll hear that he knows that 
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I came to my own conclusions 
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with Ralph Nader. 
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this kind of rollicking. 
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with him here on Rumble with 
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the house office building and 
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into our congressman, from Flint
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him, and coming out of the door 
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and it was both stunning and 
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and I asked him if he would just
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represented, killed his office 
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allowed us to sit in here and 
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Ralph welcome, first of all to 

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my podcast and how are you 
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here, you know, these too many 
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their remark. 
Michael by saying, this is a sad

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Day to hold, President, Trump 
Lawless Outlaw that he is 

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buffoon ignorant narcissistic 
racist, sexist, sexual predator,

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serial liar Insider To violence 
just for starters. 

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Is that all you got Ralph 
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Yeah? 
Right you're right. 

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It's always a glorious day 
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Constitution and enact its 
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but it's it is on the level that
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people should not have had to 
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individual who's in the White 
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about why he's being impeached. 
I'm talking about Day, his 

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administration has cut out a 
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given over more of our public 
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He's made our oceans more 
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He's, I mean, these things don't
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because we're so consumed with 
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people in another country to rig
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The Democrats went with an arrow
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Basically, they went with the 
Ukraine which doesn't move the 

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public opinion needle important 
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influencing the next election 
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their quiver. 
He's impeaching himself in one 

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area or another though. 
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Beyond to your crane. 
Number one, the spending money 

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does not authorize that violates
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That would have outraged James. 
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enriching himself Lawless War's 
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alluded to he is shredding the 
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health protections American 
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dismantling EPA and 
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Safety and health 
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agency, crushing the civil 
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scientist. 
Why isn't that an impeachable 

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offense? 
That was right in the house. 

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Judiciary report, Michael, they 
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defiant refusal to enforce the 
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Ha a stir, you know, he's turned
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pollution poisoned happy and 
agreed Lobby. 

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I can tell you why they chose 
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I'm not in on the inner circle 
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do the impeachment, but I think 
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like a comedian has to know the 
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and I think Nancy Pelosi and the
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room, that that list, I cut you 
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things. 
Yeah, on that. 

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It's so many things. 
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Work, two jobs, a few. 
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they're barely able to keep 
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to keep track to try to focus 
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articles of impeachment. 
I mean it's like it's like me 

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asking you right now name the 32
teams in the NFL. 

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Go ahead Ralph. 
Yeah, I'm waiting. 

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Yeah. 
Go ahead. 

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Can you name them? 
No name, a lot of them, but 

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yeah. 
He's always 10 lies ahead of 

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them. 
Yes, insults ahead of them, 

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violating this violin that does 
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government. 
Overseeing, his Crooks is 

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corrupt heads of these agencies 
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pass. 
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He's going to say, he's going to
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majority, she could have passed 
all those wild charges that I've

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Violated the Constitution but 
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know why? 
Because it's all lies, it's all 

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fake. 
I didn't do anything wrong. 

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He's going to say that a 
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impersonation. 
Um, yeah, that built up with 

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that, is that it? 
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first said before the election 
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I mean, I live in Michigan. 
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every week, leading up to the 
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And, and Hillary, unfortunately,
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ship, Michigan didn't go at all 
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I'm like, wow, he this guy is 
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your opponent, if you don't 
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don't know what the word is not 
admiration. 

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But some sort of understanding 
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adversary. 
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just wanted to go. 
Trump. 

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No One's Gonna vote for him. 
It's going to be a carnation. 

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It's going to reality show. 
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reality shows, he was on for 14 
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You don't me Seasons. 
I was on with my show for no. 

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Okay, I mean Seinfeld, when he 
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my friends, maybe a dozen maybe 
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14 seasons and and out where I 
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I understood why you know we 
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Trump in Michigan, who's Trump? 
We Only about Queens. 

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Wouldn't know what is this? 
Here's what we know about 

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Queens. 
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Trump, that's it to bigots 
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scale. 
That's all we know about Queens,

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who, you know, and just put on a
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president on Trump. 
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directed to the Trump voter, 
it's called. 

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Thank president, fake, 
president. 

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Why are they running off to 
Trump order? 

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If they read the epilogue, you 
get my take on how to convey and

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communicate with Trump voters, 
who he is. 

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Betraying a thousand ways that's
a great Title. 

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By the way, it's a little 
redundant. 

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If you if I can say yeah. 
You now when you say present you

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don't need to say fake. 
We already know the fakery 

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that's going 100,000 workers 
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He's quick. 
He's breaking the protection of 

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Osha and they're dying. 
You want to try to actually 

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convince Trump voters to change 
their minds doll. 

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That's a lot of work. 
I I did that the first year and 

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I think a lot of eight million 
Obama voters voted for Trump. 

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Okay. 
So there we can reach out and 

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And we can convince them to I 
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Flint and Saginaw on Detroit who
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all. 
Not certainly not personally but

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they wanted to throw a hand 
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system that had let them down. 
And so Trump appeared to Bernie 

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appeared to be that the people 
to. 

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So you also Michael. 
You also lied like crazy. 

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He was going to get them more 
manufacturing jobs, it's a lie. 

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He was going to get them 
cleaner. 

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Air water and health insurance, 
a lie. 

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He was going to cut their taxes 
alai. 

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Cut the taxes for the rich 
created a deficit. 

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Drained, the money for the 
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sent a bill to the children, 
grandchildren of America and 

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including their grandchildren. 
Would they ever tolerate a 

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having a relationship with the 
neighbor or friend or co-worker?

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Who is that? 
Kind of monster, immoral, 

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monster liar, sexual predator, 
you know, they I don't buy this.

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I think what's And is they hated
the alternative so much and they

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hated Washington turning their 
back on him so much that they 

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saw this bomb thrower. 
And they said we're going to 

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we're going to send our votes to
yeah. 

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Yeah. 
I think that's what that is. 

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What happened. 
But now the people that are for 

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Trump three after watching him 
for three years if they're still

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for him, I think the whatever 
energy we have left in us 

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because we're all filled with 
this despair, there's a malaise 

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that's across the country right 
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All our Focus has to be on 
getting out the people on our 

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side. 
The people who believe in these 

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things. 
We believe in don't stay home 

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this time. 
Let's come out, let's get 

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everybody out. 
It's all about getting the vote 

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out of the on voters. 
You can be 110 million, 

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non-voters largest political 
party in America, right? 

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The non-voting party, you get 10
million out in seven states and 

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start in August September 
October developing relationship 

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when might drop. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, potluck suppers. 
And then you, you give them 

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transportation to the pole. 
Yes, that's how I want our 

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energy to be focused on this 
coming year. 

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Those of us who those who are 
listening to this. 

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Now, you've got a conservative 
brother-in-law, You've just had 

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Thanksgiving dinner with him 
last month. 

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You're going to have Christmas 
dinner again. 

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Maybe you'll get through it 
again. 

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Maybe you won't, maybe he 
shouldn't be invited. 

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You know, just because the 
children are at the table and 

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they don't need to hear these, 
you know, comments bigoted 

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comments. 
But but Ralph, I just, I don't 

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know. 
I think my, my energy now is 

449
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800
just getting out our people 
getting off the non-voters, you 

450
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,900
know, getting seven different 
sort of this movement in 

451
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:02,500
Kentucky, Mitch Mitch no, no, 
well it's a non-profit Civic. 

452
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:04,800
Get out the vote and they've got
there. 

453
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,100
Raised five million dollars. 
They've got staff all over 

454
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,700
Kentucky and they don't they 
don't trust the Democrats to be 

455
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:14,700
the worst campaigner in modern 
American history. 

456
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:16,500
While they can switch on how 
they going to ditch them in 

457
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:19,900
there because of a Democrat 
because they're going to the 

458
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:23,100
Democrat who's challenging was a
former Fire part pilot. 

459
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:25,400
She thinks she doesn't need any 
co-pilots, right? 

460
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,700
So they think she's going to 
make the same mistake trying to 

461
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:31,800
be both ways and Kentucky, you 
know, no public never. 

462
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,100
So they're saying we're going to
get out and in Independent Mass 

463
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,900
turnout of votes. 
Now, the vote for who? 

464
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:42,200
Well, they're not saying, but 
they know to vote against 

465
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,600
McConnell. 
Yeah. 

466
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,500
But all that was votes have got 
to go into one pot. 

467
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,800
Yeah, to get him out. 
Is that's okay. 

468
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,800
You don't State the obvious. 
Yeah, I'll state it for you. 

469
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,200
You have to over the Democrat? 
Yeah. 

470
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,200
Okay. 
We can say that. 

471
00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:56,200
Hey, we will go back a long way 
you and I okay, no, seriously, 

472
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,500
people still come up to me on 
the street who remember, you 

473
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:00,200
know, the green party and all 
this and they're like you know, 

474
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,200
so yelling at me and this guy 
who runs ditch he's got the 

475
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,500
model for the Tree, which is 
why, which is Civic parallel. 

476
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:10,700
Get out the bow. 
You don't have to beg the 

477
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:14,000
Democrats phone Banks don't 
work, you know, a few days 

478
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,100
before the election. 
They don't know how to get out 

479
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:18,500
the vote. 
So you have a parallel movement,

480
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,800
Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, 
Michigan to get out the vote. 

481
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,400
Now, you have Bloomberg's 
willing put millions of dollars,

482
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,600
that's what he really doesn't 
know how to do it. 

483
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,300
Now, he thinks just adds know 
you have people on the ground in

484
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:34,600
the neighborhoods. 
You get the influentials. 

485
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:36,500
Going to have developed a 
relationship. 

486
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:41,000
I'm going to have my my podcast 
here in the coming weeks and I'm

487
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,600
going to tell him Mike. 
All right. 

488
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Your job in this election, 
you're the bank, you're the 

489
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200
bank. 
And that's what you need to do. 

490
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,600
Not run for president, just be 
the bank and and you're like the

491
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,200
ATM machine for Democrats who 
are running for a by ballot, 

492
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,700
proposals on gun control and 
whatever Mike Bloomberg. 

493
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,500
Hi, I'm Mike Bloomberg, I'm the 
bank. 

494
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,100
That's that's his job, okay? 
You know, I just want to say 

495
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:08,500
before you know it's so 
wonderful running into you and 

496
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:11,100
we're heading back over to the 
to the gallery. 

497
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,200
They're just too bad, they don't
have songs at the end of the 

498
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,700
boat. 
The should play America the 

499
00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:17,600
Beautiful. 
Yeah, you know, I thought when 

500
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,800
Nancy Pelosi went up and cheered
the American flag there in the 

501
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,600
beginning, I thought she was 
going to ask everybody to stand 

502
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,600
and do that or the Pledge of 
Allegiance or something to just 

503
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,400
look, can we just acknowledge 
that this country actually did 

504
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,900
stand for something that we are 
about something that we're still

505
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:36,000
a work in progress and we are 
going to have our - Tower today 

506
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,800
by doing what we're doing and 
and you know be around 2 is 

507
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,100
going to be around too often 
around each but I just say we 

508
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:44,800
round to us, I'll tell the 
Democrats I run into here today 

509
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,900
after after this is done. 
They I know we all want to go 

510
00:29:46,908 --> 00:29:49,100
home for Christmas. 
You want to let Congressman slut

511
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,800
can go on the offensive? 
Teach you how to go on offense? 

512
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Yes Michigan. 
Could they put her on the 

513
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,100
defense know? 
I know I know those ten 

514
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:58,800
moderates changed the whole 
ballgame because Nancy wants the

515
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,400
job back. 
Spent a lot of time there was 

516
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,800
not time in the CIA. 
I know where I'm planning to 

517
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,200
have a little bit of during the 
Days. 

518
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,400
I'll have some kind of, you 
know, there's there's nothing we

519
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,500
have to, you know, when your ex 
CIA you've got to go through a 

520
00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:13,100
kind of a relearn ever the book,
fake, know him, fake present. 

521
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:14,600
We're going to stop by her 
office. 

522
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,600
That's good. 
This is, this is this is this 

523
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,400
gets you on the offensive 
against Trump. 

524
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,200
You don't win by being 
defensive. 

525
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:22,800
The second thing that the 
Democrats have to do as soon as 

526
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,000
this vote is done. 
Is there are I think close to 

527
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,500
250 bills that this house has 
passed. 

528
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,100
I want people, first of all to 
know, the people came out, the 

529
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,100
non-voters came out in the off 
year election. 

530
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,200
They come out and they made 
this. 

531
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,300
They made this Democratic house 
and they put a lot of women in 

532
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,800
and and if they don't see any 
result from that, I don't know 

533
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,000
if they'll come back again and 
vote I needed to come back 

534
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,200
about, I need them know at least
that the Democrats passed, 250 

535
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,900
bills and HR 1. 
The very first bill that got 

536
00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:52,000
past you know this company under
this is like something you 

537
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,300
wrote. 
Yeah, 40 years ago about how our

538
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:59,200
elections are run, how it's how 
they're how it should be simple,

539
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,400
and easy for people to be able 
to vote instead of all the 

540
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,900
roadblocks. 
And why doesn't the Senate 

541
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,900
they've got past the sea? 
One of these bills, they won't 

542
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,000
pass them. 
They won't even talk about them.

543
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:13,300
This has been a very active, 
very busy house session and all 

544
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,500
the stuff just sits on Mitch 
McConnell's desk. 

545
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,200
And and we all know, they don't 
know how to nail him with, with 

546
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,000
the names of the bills. 
They just say, 200 bills are 

547
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,300
over there, he hasn't signed 
them. 

548
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,600
Well, this podcast, we have it, 
we're gonna have a special 

549
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,600
section on this podcast called 
passed the bills and that 

550
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,500
passed, the buck passed the 
bills and and we are going to 

551
00:31:32,508 --> 00:31:34,700
name the bills if they don't 
actually have a real name. 

552
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:38,300
Umm, you know, for like, you 
know, operation, you know, fog 

553
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:39,800
of war. 
The Republicans have. 

554
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,500
Yeah, well, I'll have on 
meanings for all of the clean 

555
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:44,800
Estuary bill. 
By the Republic's is to poison 

556
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,400
yester. 
Exactly, right. 

557
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000
So, so but this is where, this 
is where our side. 

558
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,900
We always need a little help, 
which is weird that we have a 

559
00:31:51,908 --> 00:31:54,400
communication problem. 
When we are. 

560
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,300
We Are The Writer's, the 
communicators, the artists all 

561
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:59,400
the things they rail against 
Hollywood, Etc. 

562
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,700
And, and somehow, we're unable 
to often communicate what this 

563
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,900
really says in very A simple 
remember was Kevin Phillips set?

564
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,700
The Republicans go for the 
jugular and the Democrats go for

565
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,700
the capillaries. 
Yeah. 

566
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,400
They're much more aggressive 
with less. 

567
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:17,000
I know that's evidence. 
We're Kinder people. 

568
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,300
You know, we don't juggling over
the jungle, you know, all that 

569
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:21,300
blood sprays everywhere and 
people die. 

570
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:25,400
You don't want me to die. 
We, you know, we actually, we 

571
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800
are filled with a heart that has
love in it. 

572
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,700
I believe, Nancy Pelosi when she
says this, that there that that 

573
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,500
she was raised this way, I do 
believe in America. 

574
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,300
And she doesn't pray in the 
meantime, actually believe she 

575
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:39,800
prays and listen, I was, you 
know, and not been over the 

576
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,600
years. 
Yeah, a big supporter of Nancy 

577
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,300
Pelosi, but I want, I seriously 
want to start a GoFundMe page, 

578
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:50,200
to build a statue to her just 
because, but in the moment she 

579
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,800
has pulled this off. 
You have a - man amazing. 

580
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,800
This business of not it's been 
amazing to watch this business 

581
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,600
of how she done this, this 
business of caution, by Nancy's 

582
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,700
cost for she's lost four out of 
five last congressional 

583
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:03,700
election. 
This is that's the past Ralph. 

584
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:06,300
This is the new name. 
Party of the future is this, is 

585
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:09,100
there these older than Bernie? 
You're dealing, just saying 

586
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,700
you're dealing, Democrats are 
dealing with a corrupt 

587
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:16,300
government of corporatism, 
militarism and nepotism. 

588
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400
What are they waiting for, 
right? 

589
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,300
Well, I think that this day 
today is a turning point in that

590
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:27,300
and and many of them, if John F,
Kennedy, Kennedy was alive and 

591
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:29,800
he was writing a sequel to 
Profiles in Courage. 

592
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,300
These 15 plus Democrats that are
running in districts that Trump 

593
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,700
won in 16. 
It's been a real profile in 

594
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,500
Courage so far today to hear 
them, stand up there and say 

595
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,100
what they've said knowing I 
could cost him the election and 

596
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:49,300
they put their country and they 
put truth and honesty ahead of 

597
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:52,200
their own political agenda and 
their career. 

598
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:56,100
That's been a powerful thing to 
see today and I'm guessing it's 

599
00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:00,200
inspired other members of 
Congress to like you know, this 

600
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:03,000
Not my time to just sit back and
be quiet. 

601
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,500
So we're here on actually a 
historic day and I think many of

602
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:10,199
the funnies are taking place not
just on the house floor. 

603
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,699
Not just in the gallery but all 
across this country and we are 

604
00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:15,199
going to we're going to zoom out
of the gate. 

605
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,300
Everybody's going to be talking 
to their families over the 

606
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:20,900
holidays and and this will have 
been an exhilarating moment for 

607
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,000
all of us. 
I truly truly believe that and 

608
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,699
you as you know, I you can't get
more pessimistic than me. 

609
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,000
So hear me out when I say this 
is just the first step we have 

610
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,800
to have Round two, with all the 
other articles of impeachment. 

611
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,100
They've destroyed the 
Constitution imperiled the 

612
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:38,800
Republic because otherwise he's 
going to get away with it. 

613
00:34:38,808 --> 00:34:41,600
And he's going to Glow all the 
way through to election day. 

614
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,699
Who do you predict is going to 
win until November you predicted

615
00:34:44,699 --> 00:34:47,500
right in 2016? 
When you said Trump was going to

616
00:34:47,507 --> 00:34:49,000
win? 
Everybody laughed at you while 

617
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,699
it's not next November and I'm 
not a soothsayer, okay? 

618
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:53,300
If the election were today, who 
would win? 

619
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:57,800
I hate to say it Donald J Trump.
I mean, I'm sorry. 

620
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,600
Here's here's what I actually 
believe if the election were Day

621
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,800
Hillary won by three million 
votes in the popular vote, the 

622
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,700
Democrat. 
Whoever the Democrat would be on

623
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:09,800
the ballot tonight that Democrat
would win the popular vote by 

624
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,300
four to five million votes and 
Trump could still win. 

625
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:16,800
So elected, by the Electoral 
College. 

626
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:20,200
Exactly which Republicans, the 
Democrats lost to like shin 

627
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,600
since 2000, because they won the
popular vote, locks the 

628
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,900
Electoral College, and you still
can't get him to go after the 

629
00:35:25,908 --> 00:35:28,600
Electoral College and Joan. 
And I joined the National. 

630
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,500
Be the first to say that. 
A citizen of this country. 

631
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,600
I should have been organizing 
something the day after bushes. 

632
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:38,900
The Supreme Court that was 
appointed by Bush has dad 

633
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:42,600
appointed Sonny Boy as president
of the United States while they 

634
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,900
were still counting the ballots 
in Florida, just one more 

635
00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:49,200
example of how we don't have a 
true democracy and I should have

636
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,500
the next day with others. 
You should, we all should have 

637
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,500
done this. 
We should have, we should have 

638
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,300
made the attempt to get rid of 
the Electoral College back then.

639
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:00,000
You know, it's underway now. 
They gotta run. 

640
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:01,800
It's called the national popular
vote. 

641
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,400
We may not be able to get rid of
the electoral college, but we 

642
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,000
have enough States. 
Now that, you know, about the 

643
00:36:06,008 --> 00:36:08,200
stand, the video, large National
popular vote, Europe. 

644
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:12,500
There's been enough States. 
Now with 196 electoral votes, we

645
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:15,700
only need to 70 100 that have 
passed this law. 

646
00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:20,900
That says our state's electors 
will go to whoever wins the 

647
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:24,900
popular vote Nationwide. 
Even if our state didn't vote 

648
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:28,000
for that person, we believe the 
person in the white house should

649
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,900
be the person, the American 
people wanted We've got enough 

650
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:34,500
states that have passed that law
to equal 196. 

651
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,300
Electrodes Democratic party's 
not making a big deal out of. 

652
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:41,300
So there's only 74 more yet. 
What I've said to Republicans is

653
00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:44,300
you want to support this because
this could come back on you, 

654
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:48,400
someday, you're going to wish 
that the popular vote was that 

655
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,900
was the real vote. 
So anybody listening to this 

656
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:55,600
lookup National popular vote dot
org, it's a really good idea, 

657
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:59,800
we're only 74 electoral votes 
away states that hold those, it 

658
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,100
was Proposed and run by Steve 
Silverstein an entrepreneur from

659
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:07,900
from San Francisco. 
He's got seven staff and they've

660
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:11,000
got all these bills through 
California, Illinois, 

661
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,700
Connecticut, Maryland seven 
staff. 

662
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:18,400
It's a lot easier than we think.
Before we go. 

663
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,200
I want to just say this, you 
brought up the 2,000 vote where 

664
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,300
you and you were running the 
green party and of course, you 

665
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:29,500
know, you have heard this since 
then people blame you and this 

666
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,000
and that and whatever. 
But except cord, doesn't he 

667
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,800
knows who he's, he's got ten 
others to blame that. 

668
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,400
No, that's what I was just going
to tell you. 

669
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,500
So I was speaking in Nashville 
few years ago and he heard I was

670
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:42,200
speaking there and he called me 
up. 

671
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:46,300
Got my number somehow. 
And and so once you come over 

672
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:47,900
for breakfast tomorrow, if 
you're going to still be here 

673
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,400
Tipper and I will will make you 
breakfast. 

674
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,700
I said oh wow. 
Great free food. 

675
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:57,300
You know me, right? 
So anyway, so I went over there 

676
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,300
the next morning my other 
sister. 

677
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,300
With me and we sat there on 
stools in the kitchen as he and 

678
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:08,500
Tipper made the ham and eggs and
really wonderful breakfast. 

679
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:14,900
And I said to him, I said, geez,
I'm just wondering how you feel,

680
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:20,800
whether it's about me or anybody
about the election, you know, 

681
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:25,400
you blame Ralph for your loss 
and he said to me, absolutely 

682
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,900
not. 
He said that is the absolute 

683
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:30,000
wrong way to look at it. 
I blame me. 

684
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,000
I blame me why he said, I didn't
allow President Clinton to go 

685
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,700
around and campaign for me, and 
he started listing these 

686
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,300
Arkansas. 
Yeah, even in Arkansas, everyone

687
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:42,800
Arkansas, you've been president 
Don. 

688
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,700
Exactly. 
So he won the popular vote. 

689
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,900
Remember my 500,000 won. 
The popular was stolen from a 

690
00:38:48,908 --> 00:38:51,900
man in Florida in seven 
different ways. 

691
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:53,400
Yes. 
And then the Supreme Court 

692
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:56,600
Scalia 54. 
Yes, judicial coup d'etat. 

693
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:00,000
Yes. 
But but he push an office. 

694
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,700
He said he wishes that people 
were not angry at you. 

695
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,100
They should be angry at him and 
he said in this is what he said 

696
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:10,700
to me. 
He said because in the end Mike 

697
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:16,000
it's my responsibility to 
convince you or anybody who was 

698
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
thinking of voting for the green
party. 

699
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:23,700
It's up to me to convince you to
vote for me and somehow I failed

700
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:25,800
to do that, you know I don't 
know if this is the wrong 

701
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,400
podcast I have a story to tell 
you, no I'm serious. 

702
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,200
Maybe I should just I should 
just tell it now. 

703
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,300
I got a call. 
Yeah John your Chief of Staff 

704
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:41,300
knows the story. 
John Richard I got a call a week

705
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:47,000
10 days before the election. 
And they knew Florida was going 

706
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,400
to be very close. 
And so someone from the gore 

707
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:55,500
campaign called me and said, 
you're close to Ralph. 

708
00:39:56,100 --> 00:40:00,800
What could we do? 
To convince him to, yes, tell 

709
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,500
everybody, vote Green in 
California and New York and 

710
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,700
Texas. 
Wherever doesn't, you know, 

711
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:10,400
wouldn't hurt the election to 
have him. 

712
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,400
Tell Nader voters in Florida to 
just to please just in Florida, 

713
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,500
vote for Gore. 
We want to talk, we want to talk

714
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:23,900
to Ralph, we want to talk to him
about, you know, just tell us 

715
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:27,500
what what position could go or 
think about altering. 

716
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,000
That would be be more 
Progressive whether it was 

717
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,300
Health Care, Union issues, you 
know, whatever. 

718
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,700
Could we could, we could we talk
to Ralph? 

719
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,000
I think also they, they have 
brought up on the phone of. 

720
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,200
They would be very interested in
talking to you about a cabinet 

721
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,400
position. 
So they so the voters, your 

722
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,700
supporters would know that you 
would have a voice in the 

723
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:57,600
administration. 
And I said, well first of all 

724
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,500
you don't know, Ralph there's no
quid pro quo with grow with 

725
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,900
Ralph. 
I mean it's just not you know, 

726
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:06,900
but I know that Ralph is smart 
enough politically to know that 

727
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:12,400
if you can appoint the right 
people if you will if you will 

728
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,300
change your position to make it 
better on health care or 

729
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:18,200
whatever. 
I'm sure he'd want to talk to 

730
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,500
you. 
It's better than that. 

731
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,200
We pushed minimum wage in 
Florida, which is winning issue.

732
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,800
12 referendum, as you know, a 
few years later, chief of 

733
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Stanzi. 
I wouldn't do it your chiefest 

734
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,400
and over your Chief of Staff. 
Came back to me and said, no, 

735
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,300
no, we don't want to talk, but 
when I was in Florida, who 

736
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:37,400
cares, who picks these up? 
I gave the Democrats 

737
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,400
Republicans, the whole platform 
carry be the author, take the 

738
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,900
praise, but the one thing they 
could have, one was the minimum 

739
00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:48,100
wage issue, because a few years 
later up against the wall Mart's

740
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:50,300
and all the people want a 
referendum. 

741
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,700
If you've been right Lord, 
you've been right on this stuff 

742
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:55,200
forever. 
Yeah, all the ideas that now, I 

743
00:41:55,207 --> 00:41:58,200
think most people In the 
Democratic party, subscribe to 

744
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,200
was originated by you. 
You and whether it is, we're 

745
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,400
talking about minimum wage or 
Healthcare safety issues 

746
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,800
environmental issues. 
You are the oh gee. 

747
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,100
You know what that means? 
The LG you're like to do the 

748
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:16,800
original guy, the you got it all
going back in the 1960s. 

749
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,800
I mean, people are alive today 
because you got laws passed with

750
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,600
seatbelts and airbags. 
Literally thousands more 

751
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,700
Americans would be dead. 
Had not Ralph Nader been on this

752
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:29,900
Earth. 
I mean, that, is that your 

753
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:34,200
legacy is intact in this way? 
No, we've got to let for the 

754
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,000
future because they're rolling. 
Everything back my quest for a 

755
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,900
rolling. 
It back question you about 2,000

756
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:43,300
is when there was that week or 
two, there were you I said to 

757
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,400
your Chief of Staff, you are 
literally the most powerful 

758
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,900
person in America right now 
because you could actually help 

759
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:56,700
solidify Gore's, when And you 
can get things for us 

760
00:42:56,700 --> 00:43:02,900
politically that we needed back 
then and you held that power and

761
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:07,800
you chose not to use it and I'm 
just I'm wondering why because 

762
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,800
man that would be the Envy of 
most envious position to be in 

763
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,700
where you could have said, yes, 
I'll help you in Florida. 

764
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,700
If you'll do this for the 
people. 

765
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,900
Well it would have been looked 
at very cynically but I don't 

766
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,300
have retroactive Clairvoyance. 
I thought he was going to take 

767
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,300
Florida who Ever dreamed. 
This bumbling Governor from 

768
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:29,100
Texas, couldn't put three 
sentences together with a 

769
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,300
horrible record in Texas, 
against children and pollution 

770
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:36,000
and so on would have taken that 
close by the way, he lost 

771
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,800
forever. 
You know, the recount a year 

772
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,600
later with the media, he lost 
Florida, the Florida Supreme 

773
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,400
court ordered recount, it was 
blocked by Scalia, and the 

774
00:43:44,408 --> 00:43:48,800
Supreme Court 54 that would have
ended up saying he won Florida. 

775
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,100
Because, you know, the hanging 
shags, all the shenanigans he 

776
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:54,800
won Florida, who would ever 
dreamed it would You didn't have

777
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,200
a sense that you have, you know,
what have this power? 

778
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,200
No way. 
Wow, who would have thought the 

779
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Bush was going to win to begin 
with because he didn't win the 

780
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,100
popular vote, right? 
He lost the popular. 

781
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:11,200
It's right anyway. 
Well listen, you are hero still 

782
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,800
to millions and millions of 
Americans and regardless where 

783
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,500
other people have a disagreement
about 2000, or whatever. 

784
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:22,700
Nobody will ever fault or say a 
bad word about how you have 

785
00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:24,800
spent your life fighting. 
People. 

786
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,100
You I know you personally, I 
know what you've given up, 

787
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:31,900
you've not been able to have the
life of a normal life. 

788
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,500
That normal people get to have, 
you've devoted your entire 

789
00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:40,100
waking moment and on waking 
moment and I'm probably your 

790
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,700
honor have nightmares. 
But I'm telling you this man 

791
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:45,200
eats really healthy. 
There's a lot of garlic on the 

792
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:48,900
plate, I'm just saying that 
there's some Lebanese. 

793
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,600
His, your parents had a 
restaurant, I think. 

794
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,300
Yeah, in Connecticut. 
Yeah. 

795
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:56,700
So, You were raised in that 
Lebanese restaurant, you keep 

796
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,800
eating that Lebanese food and 
you look 20 years younger than I

797
00:44:59,808 --> 00:45:02,200
know we have the only long 
Museum in the world. 

798
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,100
My hometown, the American Museum
of tort law tort laws wrongful 

799
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:12,200
injury, sexual assaults, opioids
product defects contaminated 

800
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,100
water food. 
Tour Museum dot-org, by the way,

801
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,100
don't worry, big lesson. 
The big lesson from 2000, is the

802
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:26,100
Democrats began to scapegoat 
instead of looking in the mirror

803
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,200
saying, why haven't we Landslide
the worst Republican party in 

804
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,200
history? 
They're looking for scapegoats, 

805
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,200
you even blamed little green 
party in 2016. 

806
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:38,800
Dr. Stein. 
So they got to start looking in 

807
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,900
the mirror. 
I think that has happened. 

808
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:46,100
Ralph, I think it happened in in
2018 in the off year election 

809
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:50,400
and you're sitting right here, 
we are right here outside the 

810
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,600
place where the Democrats are 
standing up and doing what we 

811
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,300
need them to do. 
And this man has to go that guy 

812
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:03,400
who has our Oval Office, our 
White House that he has got to 

813
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,000
go. 
And I would just, I just want to

814
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,100
believe I know this is a crazy 
thought that the Senate Hey, how

815
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,600
about this prompt? 
You can keep the majority of 

816
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Republican Senators. 
There's 53 of them, you can keep

817
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,100
33 of them, you have the 
majority, but I don't, I want to

818
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:24,300
believe that of the 20 that are 
left that there's 10 of them 

819
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:28,700
that are in the Mitt Romney sort
of thinking, where I do believe 

820
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:33,300
they have actual core, beliefs, 
religious beliefs, and Trump 

821
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:35,400
must seem like the devil to 
them. 

822
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,400
Sure. 
When they're not in front of a 

823
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,700
camera or microphone, they know 
who he is. 

824
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,300
That's 10 of that, those 
Republicans and another 10 just 

825
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:48,400
for own their own self-interest.
If they don't vote to remove him

826
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,600
we're going to remove them. 
Come November watch what's going

827
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,100
to happen? 
I mean if there's one prediction

828
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:57,500
I feel good about is that we're 
going to have a Democratic 

829
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:00,300
Senate next year and it's going 
to be maybe by more than just a 

830
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:02,600
3. 
We're going to need to flip it. 

831
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,600
And I think those stem, I think 
those Republicans who are on the

832
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,500
edge of possibly being tossed, 
they know it too. 

833
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,800
And this is their moment to take
a stand for righteousness. 

834
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,700
And so, in my, in my fantasy 
world, those 20 Republicans, 

835
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,000
they come they frankly, I think 
all we need to do is all we need

836
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,900
is a subpoena to see what else 
they put on that server in the 

837
00:47:26,908 --> 00:47:30,600
white house, then the Ukraine 
call, they've been putting shit 

838
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,700
on that server. 
Ralph for three years and 

839
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:34,700
opportunities for hiding stuff 
there. 

840
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:36,900
I want to know what's there, 
because I think when the 

841
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:40,200
American people here, the other 
calls that are there They won't 

842
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,400
need a map to go find out where 
because nobody no, nobody knows 

843
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,200
where Ukraine is. 
But when the American public, 

844
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:51,600
here's what else is on that it 
will be so audacious that think 

845
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,700
of all the emails were he's done
in the American worker, the 

846
00:47:54,707 --> 00:47:58,400
American Consumer patients, not 
just the emails in the tweets 

847
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,000
I'm talking about. 
Yeah, this is this is 

848
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:06,700
Republicans, if you're 
listening, man. 

849
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,900
Yeah, you ever hear of the wigs?
You're in an implosive moment. 

850
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,500
And I don't think, you know, 
just how bad it's going to be 

851
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:21,200
for you and we actually don't 
want to tell you how bad it's 

852
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,000
going to be because then you 
might actually do something, but

853
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:27,900
I think we'd rather you do the 
right thing and remove Trump, 

854
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,500
we'd be we'd be willing to have 
a maybe the Senate will be, you 

855
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:36,500
know, 51/49, you know, but you 
remove him. 

856
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,300
You might save yourselves. 
Maybe I believe in Redemption 

857
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:43,600
Ralph, including for you. 
And for me, you're okay with the

858
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:47,400
Any, for your Pence, a penny for
your pets? 

859
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:49,700
It was don't be afraid of Mike 
Pence. 

860
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:51,100
All right? 
If he ends up being the 

861
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:55,600
candidate, he'll be the easiest 
person to defeat. 

862
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:58,400
Make sure he doesn't have dinner
with a woman who is not his 

863
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,100
wife. 
Yeah yeah. 

864
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:04,500
I she's only want to go there 
off, we've been talking to Ralph

865
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:07,900
Nader here on my podcast. 
This is Michael Moore, you're 

866
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:10,400
listening to rumble with Michael
Moore Ralph. 

867
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,800
We got to get back over to the 
gallery. 

868
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:13,600
It would go and and see what's 
going on. 

869
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,000
There. 
And I got and I have to have my 

870
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,600
who's the, who's the Roman that,
I guess, any of them. 

871
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,900
Right Nero. 
Caligula Collegiate? 

872
00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:25,100
Well, I'm not going there. 
Ralph either Ralph when this is 

873
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:29,000
what happens when you pass. 
How old are you now? 

874
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,200
Ralph, how are you? 
So, I don't say now. 

875
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,400
Come on, we can look it up. 
There is the only true aging is 

876
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,800
the erosion of your ideals. 
Yeah, you're sharp as a tack, 

877
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,600
first of all. 
And number two, you have never. 

878
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:46,600
Eroded any of your ideals. 
Thank you very much. 

879
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,500
Thank you. 
Appreciate, thank you for having

880
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:51,200
a conscience and thank you for 
fighting for the rest of us and 

881
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,700
we love you for it. 
Never do that you too. 

882
00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:56,600
Well, there's jury's still out 
on me but thank you for what 

883
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,800
you've done. 
Thank you much. 

884
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,100
All right let's get back over to
the House of Representatives and

885
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:03,500
off. 
I went back to the House of 

886
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:06,200
Representatives where I was able
to sit there in the gallery, 

887
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:12,500
watch the debate and the vote 
and witness the third only 

888
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:15,400
president ever in peace. 
In the history, the United 

889
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,200
States that night. 
But on the way back home I 

890
00:50:19,207 --> 00:50:24,200
thought a lot about this 
conversation with Ralph and I 

891
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,500
thought yes I look that's just 
who I am. 

892
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,600
I believe in Redemption, I 
believe it's ridiculous to hold 

893
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,400
grudges and anger, and hatred 
and animosity even to the people

894
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,400
that do wrong, even to the 
people that do things that we 

895
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disagree with. 
But I want another, I want 

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another step in my thinking 
about the this, what is it that 

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we disagree with with Ralph 
Nader. 

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He has, since the 1960s has been
doing this, fighting fighting 

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fighting, for the person, that 
that doesn't have with the rich,

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have fighting for people's 
safety, fighting for economic 

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Justice. 
And while I are, you may not 

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like, decisions he's made, or 
things he's done or ways, he's 

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behaved or whatever, you know, 
as Al Gore said to me, I don't 

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blame Ralph Nader. 
I blame myself. 

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It was gorgeous job to win that 
election to convince people to 

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vote for him. 
And all Ralph did was do what 

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any free citizen could do in any
democracy, which is run for 

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office, and that's what he did. 
And he stood, for the things 

909
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that he always stood for, he 
stands for those things today, 

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and You know my heart is has the
room to make peace with Ralph 

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Nader and to welcome him into 
joining our fight to remove 

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Donald Trump from the White 
House and to get somebody in 

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there who's going to fight for 
the things that we all believe 

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in. 
We have no other choice and 

915
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there is no time to be living in
the past right now, We have to 

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be all about the next minute. 
The next hour, February 3rd and 

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Iowa, February 11th, in New 
Hampshire, super Tuesday, the 

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whole bit, this whole spring, my
friends, all of us have to get 

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busy and I welcome her off 
Twitter to be part of this Ralph

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Nader. 
Thank you. 

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And thanks to those of you who 
were willing to listen to my 

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little rant here about Out, 
forgiveness and Redemption and 

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knowing who's on whose side here
and welcoming them. 

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That's it, that's it for 
tonight. 

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Thank you.