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Hello everyone. 
This is Michael Moore. 

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This is my podcast. 
I want to respond to something 

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that Joe Biden said here at the 
end of last week. 

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On Thursday he had a little 3 
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President Biden stepped into a a
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I I believe he's at the White 
House and wanted to talk about 

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the campus protest and Needless 
to say, it was fairly 

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disappointing. 
He clearly doesn't understand 

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what's going on. 
He's been completely misinformed

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about what the protesters have 
been doing. 

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Wow. 
This is going to be such a long 

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six months. 
What do we have? 

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About 6 months left to the 
election. 

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And like we we have this other 
huge job we've got to do, which 

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is to keep Trump out of the 
White House. 

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And yet we've got a president 
that is funding this horrific 

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war. 
We'll come up with something. 

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OK, You know me. 
I know you. 

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We're not letting Trump back in 
the Oval Office. 

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We're also not going to let 
Biden get away with this. 

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He's going to have to make the 
amends that need to be made to 

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the people who've suffered the 
most. 

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And a lesson needs to be taught 
to Democrats who consistently, 

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very sadly, make the wrong 
decision, whether it's regarding

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women's rights or a whole bunch 
of other things. 

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The lame O responses that we 
have to deal with Roe V Wade 

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Supreme Court decision was in 
1973 and they had 49 years 

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before the Supreme Court got rid
of Roe V Wade almost two years 

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ago. 
Now 49 years. 

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The Democrats had to make it the
law of the land to pass it in 

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Congress. 
During many of those years when 

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the Democrats held both houses 
of Congress and the White House 

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and didn't do anything about 
this legal rights amendment now 

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having passed in through 38 
states, That's what's needed and

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still not officially part of the
Constitution because the White 

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House has to do one specific 
thing to make it legal. 

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What? 
What do we have to do here? 

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Democrats, please, come on. 
You've got a lot of people 

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listening to this that are more 
than happy to go elsewhere, to 

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third parties and all that. 
And I've talked about this 

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before and it's we have to 
change some things about our 

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election laws to make it more 
democratic, to make sure that 

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all voices are heard and have 
representation in Congress that 

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has to be fixed. 
That's not what we're going to 

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do here today. 
I'm just going to, I'm going to 

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actually play what President 
Biden said about the campus 

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protest. 
And if you don't mind, I'm going

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to do a little, I guess, my own 
version of the Political Mystery

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Science Theater 3000 and provide
my own little. 

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I hope it's not too annoying, my
running commentary to agree or 

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disagree or make comments on 
what Joe Biden said last 

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Thursday, hoping that he hears 
this and hoping that it's 

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helpful to him and to those of 
us who stand for peace. 

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So I will turn it over to you, 
Mr. President. 

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Go ahead. 
Before I head to North Carolina,

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I wanted to speak a few moments 
about what's going on on our 

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college campuses here. 
We've all seen the images and 

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they put to the test 2 
fundamental American principles.

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The 1st is the right to free 
speech and for people to 

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peacefully assemble and make 
their voices heard. 

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That's a good start. 
Yes. 

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Both of those things are really 
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The second is the rule of law. 
Both must be. 

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Upheld. 
Yes, But let's make it clear 

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that the right to free speech 
and for the people to peacefully

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assemble, to make their voices 
heard is like, that's a really 

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important rule of law. 
So when he says, then there's 

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the rule of law. 
Well, that is the law, the right

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of free speech and to peacefully
assemble to make sure that all 

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of our voices can be heard. 
We are not an authoritarian 

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nation. 
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Where we silence people or 
squash dissent. 

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I don't know about that. 
Seeing a few thousand police 

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officers on the streets of New 
York this week, police called in

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to all these campuses. 
It's kind of looking like an 

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authoritarian nation, Joe, but 
continue the American. 

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People are heard. 
In fact, peaceful protest is in 

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the best tradition of how 
Americans respond to 

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consequential issues. 
Yes, very true. 

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And peaceful protest is exactly 
what we've been witnessing on 

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these campuses. 
Anybody who tries to tell you 

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different, ask them to show you 
the photographic evidence of the

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organized protest. 
Beating people up, holding them,

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pushing them down, causing 
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That is not what's been going on
on these campuses. 

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Anybody who tells you otherwise 
is lying to you. 

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But but neither are we a lawless
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That's. 
Not really true, because we are 

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in the middle of one of our 
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history. 
We are violating our own 

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American law that says that any 
country that uses weapons that 

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we give them to kill civilians 
or to interrupt humanitarian aid

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that needs to go to civilians, 
that is a violation of our law. 

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And that is exactly what's been 
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months. 
Lawlessness. 

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Yes, that is lawlessness. 
We're a civil society. 

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An order must prevail. 
What order? 

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Whose orders? 
Sounds a little like something 

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you might hear from another era.
They must have order. 

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Order must prevail. 
This isn't Pinochet's chili, and

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it's certainly not Hitler's 
Germany. 

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It's not Tiananmen Square when 
you start talking about order 

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must prevail. 
The order has to start right 

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there in the Oval Office, by you
not sending money to a regime 

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that is slaughtering innocent 
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thousands. 
Throughout our history we've 

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often faced moments like this 
because we are a big, diverse, 

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free thinking and freedom loving
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And moments like this are always
those who rush in to score 

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political points. 
Certainly not you, Mr. 

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President. 
Please continue but this. 

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Isn't a moment for politics. 
It's a moment for clarity. 

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So let me be clear. 
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violent protest is not 
protected. 

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Peaceful protest is. 
Oh, well, good. 

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Then we've got no problem here 
because that's what's been 

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happening on over 80 campuses 
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Peaceful protests. 
No buildings are being blown up,

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no people are being sent to the 
hospital because of the actions 

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of the protesters. 
It's peaceful in and out, 

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through and through. 
It's against the law when 

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violence occurs. 
Unless, of course, again, it's 

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the violence is created by a 
regime that we fund and harm. 

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Destroying property is not a 
peaceful protest. 

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It's against the law. 
Are you again, Are you talking 

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about Gaza or are you saying 
that the protesters on campus 

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are destroying property? 
Can I see some evidence of this?

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The buildings that have been 
destroyed, Classrooms destroyed.

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A whole floor of dorm rooms 
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Anything like that. 
Anybody can you set? 

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Go ahead. 
Mr. President. 

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I'm I I I will contact the your 
press office. 

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You can send me the photographic
evidence of this. 

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Vandalism, trespassing, breaking
windows, shutting down campuses,

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forcing the cancellation of 
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None of this is a peaceful 
protest. 

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Well, let's unpack that, Mr. 
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Vandalism again. 
Yeah, I've. 

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I've seen some graffiti. 
Not cool. 

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Vandalism is the destruction 
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I saw a little window broken 
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Hamilton Hall on Columbia's 
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Where's the vandalism, the 
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UCLA or USC with the tents? 
You know, the tent stakes? 

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Is that it? 
Is that the vandalism? 

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I'm confused. 
Trespassing. 

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First of all, as far as the 
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colleges, especially the private
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$90,000 a year to go to school 
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That's their home. 
How do you trespass in a home 

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that you're paying $90,000 a 
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It's not trespassing. 
It's your home. 

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The police are trespassing into 
your home. 

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That part I get. 
Is that what you're referring 

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to? 
Breaking windows? 

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OK, honest to God, I think the 
broken windows I've seen on the 

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videotape of the few students 
who shouldn't be doing that, 

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I'll bet you there aren't 10 
windows that have been broken 

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across America shutting down 
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No campuses have been shut down 
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The ones that have shut down, 
have been shut down by the 

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administrators who have 
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the pro Israel side of this by 
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more awful, chaotic than it is 
forcing the cancellation of 

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classes. 
Again, no protesters have 

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demanded that classes be 
cancelled or have taken over 

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classrooms or put up blockades 
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into their classroom. 
The cancellation and 

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graduations, Again, 
overreaction. 

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These kids should have their 
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the protesters. 
Have not one of them demand that

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any graduation be cancelled? 
You say none of this is a 

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peaceful protest. 
All of it is a peaceful protest.

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The inability of administrators 
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their First Amendment rights. 
That's been the problem and the 

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overreaction to it and the and 
the making up of problems that 

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don't exist. 
Threatening people, intimidating

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people, instilling fear in 
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It's against the law. 
Again, threatening people. 

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Who's been threatened? 
Who's had a weapon pulled on 

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them? 
Who has been taken into custody 

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by the protesters? 
This is none of this has been 

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happening. 
Intimidating people. 

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Well, I think I know what you 
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There are some students who feel
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chants and some of the signs. 
They don't like the sign that 

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says Free Palestine. 
They find it intimidating, they 

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find it scary or they call it 
anti-Semitic. 

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Calling for a place and a people
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Sounds pro it sounds pro. 
Freedom and democracy instilling

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fear in people. 
Again, nobody's instilling fear 

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in anybody. 
I understand why some people who

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support Netanyahu and this 
regime feel fearful that maybe 

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the regime may fall, that maybe 
the theocracy will fall. 

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Because it's hard to explain how
a theocracy can be a democracy, 

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any system of government that 
favors just one religion over 

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the others. 
And if you belong to the other 

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religions, you're a second class
citizen, you don't have the same

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rights. 
That's that's not really a 

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democracy, is it? 
So I get why some people don't 

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like hearing that and they get 
afraid we're going to lose our 

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whatever. 
Well, no. 

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What the protesters are asking 
for is either A2 state or even 

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A1 state solution where they all
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Muslims, Christians, whoever, 
all live together in one country

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where everyone is equal. 
A true democracy. 

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So if that makes people fearful,
Ideas, these are ideas. 

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You can't say ideas threaten 
people or intimidate people or 

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instill fear people. 
And when I say ideas, I'm 

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meaningless in a philosophical 
way saying that that if you know

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what a white supremacist would 
say, we're going to get rid of 

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all the black people, we're 
going to kill black people, 

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whatever that is a threat to 
people, to hurt people. 

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That's not what's going on here.
Oh, but I'm going on too long. 

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Please, Mr. President, continue.
Dissent is essential to 

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democracy. 
Absolutely. 

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But dissent must never lead to 
disorder or to denying the 

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rights of others so students can
finish the semester and their 

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college education. 
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 

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The dissent must never lead to 
disorder. 

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No, That's exactly what dissent 
is supposed to do. 

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That's what it means. 
A group of people are going to 

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express their feelings. 
They're going to dissent, 

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sometimes through civil 
disobedience, nonviolent, 

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peaceful. 
But that's going to lead to 

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disorder. 
They want disorder. 

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That's what the civil rights 
demonstrations were about. 

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Black people were not allowed 
into certain schools. 

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They were not allowed into 
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etcetera. 
And so they went in there and 

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peacefully sat down and created 
disorder. 

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We never would have changed a 
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the disorder wasn't created. 
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the right to vote, so they 
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dissent. 
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disorder. 
They wanted women to be in a 

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certain place, not out there 
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entrance to the White House. 
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They were thrown in jail. 
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What are the rights of the 
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that they have to walk around 
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They have to walk around to the 
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So it took an extra 3 minutes to
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What rights have been denied to 
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you, Mr. President, who want to 
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They should have been able. 
Everybody should have been. 

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The only people that shut down 
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administrators because they 
didn't know how to handle free 

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speech, free freedom of 
assembly. 

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Nobody was calling for anybody 
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education. 
Look, it's basically a matter of

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fairness. 
It's a matter of what's right. 

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There's the right to protest, 
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chaos. 
Again, Mr. President, yes, thank

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you. 
There is a right to protest. 

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But that implies there will now 
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When people protest, they hold a
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Sometimes it spills out into the
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They decide they're going to 
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Brooklyn to Manhattan as part of
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Yes, there will be some chaos. 
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public safety officers, the 
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making sure nobody gets hurt or 
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Nobody's opposed to that. 
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thing. 
People have the right to get an 

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education, the right to get a 
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the campus safely without fear 
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Yes, people do have the right to
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that these colleges got in the 
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to class and get their 
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Nobody's taken the right to get 
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Now you're over exaggerating 
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The right to walk across the 
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being attacked. 
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like that, right? 
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campus, not just to be afraid 
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I think that is a very common 
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in this country. 
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of the statistics, crime is way 
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It's not some scary place. 
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that people from other countries
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and we have already had close to
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New Year's Day. 
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withdraw that last comment 
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under some sort of fear of being
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of the laws that we don't have 
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A culture that we don't have in 
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guns are not the tools of a 
democracy anyways, that's 

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another movie, please. 
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Let's be clear about this as 
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There should be no place on any 
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anti-Semitism or threats of 
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students. 
Absolutely, 100% in agreement. 

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Everybody I know agrees with 
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Every protester I know agrees 
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Every everybody I know who is, 
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American. 
They don't participate in that. 

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They don't believe in it. 
They don't want any threat of 

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violence against any Jewish 
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People. 
I know the people that are 

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running these protests. 
First of all, they're running it

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with Jewish students as part of 
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They are against all forms of 
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you name it. 
These are the kids we raised. 

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Everybody is with that statement
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anti-Semitism or any threat of 
violence against not just Jewish

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students, against any Jewish 
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There is no place for hate 
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whether it's anti-Semitism, 
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against Arab Americans or 
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Thank you, Mr. President, for 
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It's simply wrong. 
There's no place for racism in 

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America. 
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racism, founded on genocide, 
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Absolutely right. 
There is no longer a place for 

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that in America. 
It's all wrong. 

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It's on American. 
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feelings and deep convictions in
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We respect the right and protect
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that. 
But it doesn't mean anything 

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goes. 
It needs to be done without 

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violence, without destruction, 
without hate, and within the 

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law. 
You know, I'll make no mistake. 

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As president I will always 
defend free speech and I will 

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always be just as strong as 
standing up for the rule of law.

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That means you have to stop 
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regime that is using our weapons
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innocent civilians. 
That's law number one right now,

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Joe, Are you going to stand up 
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That's my responsibility to you,
the American people, my 

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obligation to the Constitution. 
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Much. 
And then, as he started to walk 

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away from the podium, Reporter 
shots a question or two. 

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Adam. 
Mr. President, have the protest 

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forced you to reconsider any of 
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region? 
No. 

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Oh, great. 
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So thanks for telling the 
students or no real need to have

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any protest or free speech, 
because I'm not going to listen 

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to anything you're saying about 
stopping this war in Gaza. 

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You have to reconsider your 
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Palestine and Israel. 
You have to do it because it's 

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morally right. 
You have to do it because I know

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I got to believe in deep in your
conscience, deep in your 

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Catholic faith. 
You know this is wrong, wrong, 

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wrong. 
Wrong. 

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And politically speaking, the 
longer you hold off from putting

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an end to this, the more young 
people you turn away from voting

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for you, the more you create a 
situation where Trump makes it 

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back into the White House. 
And that is unacceptable to all 

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of us. 
You have to listen to the 

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millions of young people who do 
not like what you're doing here.

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Mr. President, do you think the 
National Guard should intervene?

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No. 
That's the right answer. 

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Thank you for that. 
Please do stop the police. 

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Do not bring in the National 
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Do not kill our young people for
standing up for something very 

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moral and very, very correct and
right. 

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Thank you everybody for 
listening to my podcast. 

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Thank you for writing your 
representatives and President 

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Biden and telling them that we 
want an end to this assault. 

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And the people in Gaza tell them
that we care very deeply about 

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those who lost their lives on 
October 7th. 

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And we want all the hostages 
returned. 

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And we want the political 
prisoners held in jails without 

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trials in Israel to be released.
There's a way out of this. 

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There is a way out of this. 
We do not have to sink into our 

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despair that this is an 
unfixable problem. 

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Thank you for listening. 
Thank you to Angela Vargos for 

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being the executive producer of 
this podcast and the editor. 

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Thanks everybody. 
Talk to you in a few days.