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Hello. 
This is Rumble with Michael 

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Moore. 
I'm Michael Moore. 

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This is day 128 here in 2023 and
and as I began this recording 

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right now, I just checked 
because it's it changes 

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sometimes from hour to hour, but
we have now had 199 mass 

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shootings in the United States 
of America just since January 

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1st just since At the beginning 
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So day 128, but 199 mass 
shootings more than one a day. 

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And, of course, one of the ones 
that occurred this weekend was 

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in Allen, Texas, just north of 
Dallas and an outlet mall and 

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individual where they are 15 
went in and just started 

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shooting up the place. 
And I believe by the latest 

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count is at 15. 
People were shot and some news 

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agencies are saying, nine have 
died. 

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Others have said eight, whatever
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It's awful. 
There's a number of people in 

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the hospital in critical 
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And now it's just, it is now the
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It is something that we are 
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every single day. 
Sometimes twice a day mass 

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shootings. and, you know, I've 
been dealing with this issue for

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a very long time and I Right 
after Sandy Hook happened, 10 

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years ago. 
I was on, I think it was Larry 

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King. 
It's on CNN. 

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They asked me to come on to talk
about it and since Columbine 

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because of my film I was always 
being asked to come out and 

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express my thoughts and ideas 
feelings, whatever you have to 

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reach of these shootings and I 
was being made part of the norm.

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Oh let's go to that. 
Bowling for Columbine guy. 

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And let's get him on see what he
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And I said on the show live, I 
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I'm going to come on, any show 
after a shooting, because I will

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not be part of the new Norm. 
I'm just sorry to tell you this 

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right now don't bother to call 
me because I I'm not going to 

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I'm not going to be a pundit 
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We need action. 
Real action. 

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To change who we are as 
Americans. 

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To deal with our violent nature 
and to discover, what else it 

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is, because there's other 
violent countries, have a huge 

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History of Violence, you know 
who you are, but there's 

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something about us. 
And there are countries that 

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have guns Canada's a big country
of hunters Etc. 

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They don't kill each other like 
we kill each other. 

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Why is that the NRA got Congress
to pass a law many years ago 

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that specifically prohibited the
CDC or any agency with a 

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government grant from studying 
why these shootings and killings

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with guns occur, Or more in the 
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else. 
Why Us? 

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And think they got this law, 
Democrats voted for it passed. 

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So that we could never actually 
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whatever figure out what is it 
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It's one of the many things that
Democrats and the others need to

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fight and overturn. 
Cuz this does need to be 

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studied. so, I So when I was on 
that show, 10 years ago, I said,

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don't call me anymore, not going
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think I've only been on once and
that was a personal call from 

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Chris Hayes and his show asking 
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last Memorial Day. 
And I went on and I was pretty 

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angry and tired of talking about
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I only want to participate in 
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require action by me and 
everybody else. 

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But when I was on ten years ago,
I said you know, I think let me 

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just say this, I don't want to 
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now, but someone in law 
enforcement had shown shown me 

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chromosome crime scene photos of
a shooting and it was so 

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horrific to see. 
You want to show me what an 

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AR-15 bullet. 
We call them bullets. 

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They're not really bullets in 
those guns through like many 

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missiles, want to show me what 
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what it does to a child. 
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child's head, especially at 
close range, it blows the head 

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off or at best blows the face 
off the child. you know, once 

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you see something like that, you
can't unsee it and I was so 

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shaken by it and I thought You 
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This is what moves Americans. 
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political changes based on the 
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Emmett Till's, mother 1955, 
summer, 55 wanted an open casket

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after these white supremacist 
and clans, klansman murdered her

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son down south He was visiting 
relatives from Chicago and he 

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was down down south and they 
brutally brutally tortured him 

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and murdered him. 
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especially White America to see 
what had happened to this black 

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child. 
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she insisted on it, and they did
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newspapers and Americans could 
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And it's so moved and shocked 
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That I mean, historians will 
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This is one of the pivotal 
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Movement. 
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months before, Rosa Parks 
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on the bus and kicked off the 
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Martin Luther King and the 
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that had on her course. 
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already knew the torture and the
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everything. 
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this, it started to tick up in 
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that were going to be supportive
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And throughout the movement, the
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children, mowing them down with 
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streets, beating John Lewis on 
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Sicking dogs on protesters 
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awful stuff in it was on the 
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late 50s, the 60s and and more 
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Had had enough. 
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to hold onto their racism but 
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Sit down, children fire, hoses, 
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they'd seen enough. 
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very large role in the civil 
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And Martin Luther, King knew 
that and and and said that that.

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Yes, I'm a pacifist. 
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that the hateful Supremacy Of 
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Their violence will help us win 
the cause, because, because he 

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believed that, most people would
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Vietnam came along and one of 
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American public opinion against 
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nine-year-old girl, running down
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Screaming crying in pain. 
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the Napalm we dropped on her 
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Not only all her clothes off 
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And so, she's running down Stark
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off for her bones essentially. 
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And when America saw that, On 
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photo won the Pulitzer Prize, I 
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horrific, they couldn't take it 
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And public opinion turned, it 
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the, the Pentagon hadn't figured
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cameras to show this Devastation
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6:30 news the national news 
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the battlefield falling over and
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And then there was, of course, 
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here in the past of the South 
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the police in Saigon taking a 
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of the street handcuffed and 
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blowing. 
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blowing the brains out, you see 
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his head while you're sitting 
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watching the news. 
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war. 
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then they turned against next to
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the warranted. 
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from 2 million to 4 million 
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60,000 of our soldiers dead for 
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But it was the visual images. 
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against the war and it shouldn't
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So I sat on this CNN live show 
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Our we need to show the crime 
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need to see six year olds with 
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olds, with their heads, blown 
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called a bullet in from an AR-15
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will be parents who are going to
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died in vain and they will allow
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be seen. 
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I could do to talk to the 
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our in action. 
On guns, does to a first grader.

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Well the next day was all over 
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Michael Moore is going to get 
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Michael Morris going to show the
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crazy and Connecticut San 
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the elementary school. 
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introduced legislation in the 
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Legislature to specifically 
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the public having access to them
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this, the course, I'm brought up
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Who's going to show the country?
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Because I believed, I believed 
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If they really saw what happens,
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The horror, the horror of it. 
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And so anyways, that they passed
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In the Connecticut, legislature,
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the Michael Moore. 
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wasn't an official name. 
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afraid that I had access. 
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something was shown something 
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mall. 
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mall, it's an outdoor mall. 
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sprawled on the sidewalks and 
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of the restaurant there and 
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bullets and it's made its way 
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they're, you know, remember 
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now everybody. 
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camera and can film their own 
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they people did this yesterday. 
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It went viral on the internet. 
Maybe you've already seen it. 

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And this is something. 
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decade and I think now we're 
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hopefully it will not numb 
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After you just see so much of 
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that becomes the new normal but 
I have I have some ideas here. 

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I have to say I can't tell you 
really what they are because I 

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need to accomplish my goals here
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contribution to stopping this 
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But I have a couple cards up my 
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My sleeve here and I am in such 
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continuing and the heightening 
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It's gone in the last year here 
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since you've already a year ago,
this month and I'm on fire. 

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I'm on fire. 
And I I'm not going to be quiet 

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and I'm not going to sit around 
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I'm not going to do a bunch of 
podcasts about it. 

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I am going to act Regardless of 
the consequences. because if you

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really, if you really believe, 
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this country and protecting all 
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to do that. 
You need to be a citizen. 

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You need to participate in our 
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I And we have to do everything 
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It's not just about passing gun 
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We definitely need to do that. 
We definitely need to ban what 

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they call these assault weapons.
But I'm telling you, my friends,

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it's going to reach a point. 
I'm talking to you gun owners, 

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you've had a long time to fix 
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so, They reposted that tweet 
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not nutty governor. 
Back in 2015, he posted a tweet.

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It said, I just read a shocking 
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I'm paraphrasing it. 
I don't have it in front of me. 

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He said, I just saw a shocking 
statistic today, that Texas is 

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number two, in the country in 
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California, he wrote his number 
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Come on, Texas. 
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So, they've had enough time to 
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The gun owners. 
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It's gotten worse. 
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guns away, just like they have 
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did in Australia. 
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hunt and there will be Rangers 
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and all that. 
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doing, it doesn't work. 
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You know it's coming down the 
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That's why you've been buying so
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Four hundred million guns in our
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Now 330 million Americans, 400 
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Somewhere in your head. 
You know, this isn't going to 

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end well. 
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through these mass shootings now
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twice a day. 
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I am going to get busy. 
I've already started my plan or 

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what I'm going to do. 
It may be seen as controversial.

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You should just look at it as 
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Who cares about his country and 
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people, especially its children.
And this is now going to end. 

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This Carnage is going to end. 
And I'm going to invite you to 

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join me in that. 
Non-violence, the end of this 

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madness. 
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even I'm going to make the 
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come back with a closing remark,
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podcast and for supporting my 
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going to bring this to a close. 
I am going to get busy. 

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I will I will inform you down 
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What I'm up to when it's ready. 
When I'm ready to have you join 

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anybody, frankly. 
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as I showed in my movie 20 years
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that along with the the gun laws
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I believe we're capable of that.
It won't be easy, but we can do 

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you how we can do it. 
So thanks everybody for tuning 

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in. 
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lesson in satire today to kind 
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Americans. 
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illiterate somewhat irony, it's 
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Understanding what that is. 
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the coming weeks and and I pay 
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with this. 
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they're that they're on the take
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They've been bought off 
Clarence. 

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Thomas has to go Gorsuch as to 
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John Roberts has to explain the 
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wife is taken as a consultant to
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That argue cases before The 
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This is dirty dirty dirty, my 
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accomplish what we're going to 
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gun. 
Insanity in this country we're 

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going to have to fix the Supreme
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So a lot ahead for us here on 
Rumble and I thank all of you 

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for listening for caring and 
let's let's get busy. 

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We can do this. 
Thanks for listening, thanks to 

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my producer and my editor 
Angela. 

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Vargo's thank you so much for 
all your work on this podcast 

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and all of you who are 
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create. 
Our country and a better world. 

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I'm Michael Moore and this is 
Rubble.

