Hello. This is Rumble with Michael
Moore. I'm Michael Moore.
This is day 128 here in 2023 and and as I began this recording
right now, I just checked because it's it changes
sometimes from hour to hour, but we have now had 199 mass
shootings in the United States of America just since January
1st just since At the beginning of the new year.
So day 128, but 199 mass shootings more than one a day.
And, of course, one of the ones that occurred this weekend was
in Allen, Texas, just north of Dallas and an outlet mall and
individual where they are 15 went in and just started
shooting up the place. And I believe by the latest
count is at 15. People were shot and some news
agencies are saying, nine have died.
Others have said eight, whatever it is.
It's awful. There's a number of people in
the hospital in critical condition.
And now it's just, it is now the norm.
It is something that we are being taught trained to expect
every single day. Sometimes twice a day mass
shootings. and, you know, I've been dealing with this issue for
a very long time and I Right after Sandy Hook happened, 10
years ago. I was on, I think it was Larry
King. It's on CNN.
They asked me to come on to talk about it and since Columbine
because of my film I was always being asked to come out and
express my thoughts and ideas feelings, whatever you have to
reach of these shootings and I was being made part of the norm.
Oh let's go to that. Bowling for Columbine guy.
And let's get him on see what he has to say.
And I said on the show live, I said, the, this is the last time
I'm going to come on, any show after a shooting, because I will
not be part of the new Norm. I'm just sorry to tell you this
right now don't bother to call me because I I'm not going to
I'm not going to be a pundit about this.
We need action. Real action.
To change who we are as Americans.
To deal with our violent nature and to discover, what else it
is, because there's other violent countries, have a huge
History of Violence, you know who you are, but there's
something about us. And there are countries that
have guns Canada's a big country of hunters Etc.
They don't kill each other like we kill each other.
Why is that the NRA got Congress to pass a law many years ago
that specifically prohibited the CDC or any agency with a
government grant from studying why these shootings and killings
with guns occur, Or more in the United States than any place
else. Why Us?
And think they got this law, Democrats voted for it passed.
So that we could never actually have scientists shrinks,
whatever figure out what is it about us.
It's one of the many things that Democrats and the others need to
fight and overturn. Cuz this does need to be
studied. so, I So when I was on that show, 10 years ago, I said,
don't call me anymore, not going to come on these shows and I
think I've only been on once and that was a personal call from
Chris Hayes and his show asking the night of Uvalde Texas here
last Memorial Day. And I went on and I was pretty
angry and tired of talking about it.
I only want to participate in something that's going to
require action by me and everybody else.
But when I was on ten years ago, I said you know, I think let me
just say this, I don't want to get into this too deeply right
now, but someone in law enforcement had shown shown me
chromosome crime scene photos of a shooting and it was so
horrific to see. You want to show me what an
AR-15 bullet. We call them bullets.
They're not really bullets in those guns through like many
missiles, want to show me what they, what it does, especially
what it does to a child. And essentially a shot and a
child's head, especially at close range, it blows the head
off or at best blows the face off the child. you know, once
you see something like that, you can't unsee it and I was so
shaken by it and I thought You know, actually.
This is what moves Americans. We've made huge societal
political changes based on the visual image.
Emmett Till's, mother 1955, summer, 55 wanted an open casket
after these white supremacist and clans, klansman murdered her
son down south He was visiting relatives from Chicago and he
was down down south and they brutally brutally tortured him
and murdered him. And she wanted America to see,
especially White America to see what had happened to this black
child. Think he was 14 years old and
she insisted on it, and they did it and they ran the pictures and
newspapers and Americans could see what they did to this child.
And it's so moved and shocked people.
That I mean, historians will tell you.
This is one of the pivotal moments of the Civil Rights
Movement. This was just four months four
months before, Rosa Parks decided not to give up her seat
on the bus and kicked off the Montgomery Bus Boycott and
Martin Luther King and the modern-day Civil Rights
Movement. And she talked about the effect
that had on her course. If you were black, you you
already knew the torture and the abuse and the lynchings and
everything. But for White America to see
this, it started to tick up in terms of the number of people
that were going to be supportive of the Civil Rights Movement.
And throughout the movement, the police with the fire hoses on
children, mowing them down with with high-pressure water in the
streets, beating John Lewis on the Summer Bridge.
Sicking dogs on protesters nonviolent, protesters, awful,
awful stuff in it was on the evening news, all through the
late 50s, the 60s and and more and more white people.
Had had enough. A lot of them still were wanted
to hold onto their racism but they did not want dogs.
Sit down, children fire, hoses, beatings, lynchings, all they'd
they'd seen enough. So the visual image played a
very large role in the civil rights movement.
And Martin Luther, King knew that and and and said that that.
Yes, I'm a pacifist. But I am here because I know
that the hateful Supremacy Of those who would like us dead.
Their violence will help us win the cause, because, because he
believed that, most people would not support violence like this.
Vietnam came along and one of the big turning points of
American public opinion against the Vietnam War was a little
nine-year-old girl, running down a road.
Screaming crying in pain. She's completely naked because
the Napalm we dropped on her Village burned.
Not only all her clothes off her, but burned, her skin offer.
And so, she's running down Stark naked with the skin, flapping
off for her bones essentially. In a horrible torturous pain.
And when America saw that, On the news, in the newspapers
photo won the Pulitzer Prize, I believe that your it was so
horrific, they couldn't take it anymore.
And public opinion turned, it was already turning because the
the, the Pentagon hadn't figured out, you can't allow the news
cameras to show this Devastation and so well, you know, at the
6:30 news the national news every night.
You saw American soldiers, literally dying being shot in
the battlefield falling over and dying.
And then there was, of course, the incident we've talked about
here in the past of the South Vietnamese General, the head of
the police in Saigon taking a prisoner just out in the middle
of the street handcuffed and putting a gun to his head and
blowing. His brains out, literally
blowing the brains out, you see him blow out the other side of
his head while you're sitting watching dinner at 6:30 at night
watching the news. And people turned against the
war. It turned against Johnson and
then they turned against next to Nixon on this war and eventually
the warranted. But not until we killed anywhere
from 2 million to 4 million Southeast Asians and nearly
60,000 of our soldiers dead for nothing.
But it was the visual images. That really turned people
against the war and it shouldn't have to take those visual
images. I get it but it works.
So I sat on this CNN live show their 9:00 show the Larry King.
Our we need to show the crime scene photos from Sandy Hook you
need to see six year olds with their faces blown off, six year
olds, with their heads, blown off decapitated by a, what's
called a bullet in from an AR-15 And I said I believe that there
will be parents who are going to not want their children to have
died in vain and they will allow the crime-scene photos to be to
be seen. And and I was going to see what
I could do to talk to the parents and to show America what
our in action. On guns, does to a first grader.
Well the next day was all over the news.
Michael Moore is going to get the crime scene photos.
Michael Morris going to show the crime scene photos and they went
crazy and Connecticut San Diego's in Newtown Connecticut,
the elementary school. And within days, they had
introduced legislation in the Connecticut.
Legislature to specifically prohibit crime scene photos from
the public having access to them and specifically, in regards to
Sandy Hook. And in all the arguing over
this, the course, I'm brought up as the culprit.
Who's going to show the country? What these guns really do?
Because I believed, I believed Americans American parents.
If they really saw what happens, With an assault rifle, that's
shot. Pretty close to a little child.
The horror, the horror of it. Would be enough to stop.
And so anyways, that they passed that bill.
In the Connecticut, legislature, the governor signed it known as
the Michael Moore. Crime scene, photos bill that
wasn't an official name. But you know, they were very
afraid that I had access. It seemed like I had seen
something was shown something and they were going to stop it.
And then this weekend in Allen Texas because this is an outlet
mall. So, you know, mostly you enter
from the years. That it's not like an indoor
mall, it's an outdoor mall. And so a lot of the Dead were
sprawled on the sidewalks and the doorways of the stores and
of the restaurant there and mangled mangled by the so-called
bullets and it's made its way around the internet because
they're, you know, remember everybody is a cinematographer
now everybody. In their pocket has a video
camera and can film their own short film of what they see and
they people did this yesterday. They posted it.
It went viral on the internet. Maybe you've already seen it.
And this is something. I've Suggested for the last
decade and I think now we're going to see more of this and
hopefully it will not numb people to the violence.
After you just see so much of it, you then get used to that
that becomes the new normal but I have I have some ideas here.
I have to say I can't tell you really what they are because I
need to accomplish my goals here so that I can make my
contribution to stopping this violence.
But I have a couple cards up my sleeve.
My sleeve here and I am in such a rage over all of this
continuing and the heightening to the level.
It's gone in the last year here in the last even few months,
since you've already a year ago, this month and I'm on fire.
I'm on fire. And I I'm not going to be quiet
and I'm not going to sit around talking about this.
I'm not going to do a bunch of podcasts about it.
I am going to act Regardless of the consequences. because if you
really, if you really believe, In protecting the children of
this country and protecting all citizens, you don't need a gun
to do that. You need to be a citizen.
You need to participate in our democracy as do.
I And we have to do everything we can do.
It's not just about passing gun control laws.
We definitely need to do that. We definitely need to ban what
they call these assault weapons. But I'm telling you, my friends,
it's going to reach a point. I'm talking to you gun owners,
you've had a long time to fix this problem, your failure to do
so, They reposted that tweet from Governor Abbott and Texas,
not nutty governor. Back in 2015, he posted a tweet.
It said, I just read a shocking statistic.
I'm paraphrasing it. I don't have it in front of me.
He said, I just saw a shocking statistic today, that Texas is
number two, in the country in new gun sales.
California, he wrote his number one, And then the last line.
Come on, Texas. Don't let California beat us.
So, they've had enough time to fix it.
The gun owners. You haven't fixed it.
It's gotten worse. So now we're going to take the
guns away, just like they have done in the UK just like they
did in Australia. Just like they done in many
countries. And yes, you'll still be able to
hunt and there will be Rangers where you can go target shooting
and all that. But the way that we've been
doing, it doesn't work. That's going to change.
You know it's coming down the pike here.
That's why you've been buying so many extra guns.
Four hundred million guns in our homes.
Now 330 million Americans, 400 million guns.
Somewhere in your head. You know, this isn't going to
end well. And every single day, we go
through these mass shootings now every single day and sometimes
twice a day. I'm done talking about this.
I am going to get busy. I've already started my plan or
what I'm going to do. It may be seen as controversial.
You should just look at it as this is a good American.
Who cares about his country and cares about the safety of its
people, especially its children. And this is now going to end.
This Carnage is going to end. And I'm going to invite you to
join me in that. Non-violence, the end of this
madness. Yeah, I want to actually I don't
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going to bring this to a close. I am going to get busy.
I will I will inform you down the road here.
What I'm up to when it's ready. When I'm ready to have you join
me? We're not going to wait for the
politicians. We're not going to wait for
anybody, frankly. And remember a big part of this
as I showed in my movie 20 years ago.
There's something about us that we have to fix us As Americans
that along with the the gun laws that were going to get passed.
We will bring this Insanity down.
I believe we're capable of that. It won't be easy, but we can do
it. And I'm going to hopefully show
you how we can do it. So thanks everybody for tuning
in. I was going to do a little
lesson in satire today to kind of do some, you know, I think
Americans. Also we are satirically
illiterate somewhat irony, it's a big problem.
Understanding what that is. So I'll get into that here in
the coming weeks and and I pay attention to what's going on
with this. Cream Court in the way that
they're that they're on the take here.
They've been bought off Clarence.
Thomas has to go Gorsuch as to go.
John Roberts has to explain the ten million dollars that his
wife is taken as a consultant to high-end law firms.
That argue cases before The Supreme Court.
This is dirty dirty dirty, my friends and impart to get to
accomplish what we're going to need to accomplish to end the
gun. Insanity in this country we're
going to have to fix the Supreme Court and soon.
So a lot ahead for us here on Rumble and I thank all of you
for listening for caring and let's let's get busy.
We can do this. Thanks for listening, thanks to
my producer and my editor Angela.
Vargo's thank you so much for all your work on this podcast
and all of you who are participating in trying to
create. Our country and a better world.
I'm Michael Moore and this is Rubble.