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To today's podcast, it's been a couple of pretty incredible
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Something that was recorded in Odessa a while back and I think
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listen to. But on today's episode, I'm
going to do something that we've done a few times in the past and
I like doing this because I love the fact that so many of you,
send me a voicemail to my actual voice mail, that's hooked up to
the podcast. Platform pH here.
And any of you can send me one anytime it only lasts a minute
and I have to promise you that I will not be able to call you
back. Otherwise I would get nothing
done. Nonetheless, I listened to every
single voice mail just as I read every single email or comment
that you post on subset. So so today we are going to have
one of our special episodes where I play your voicemails and
we're not going to be able to get to all of them, but Do what
we can do in a half hours time. So we'll play the voicemail.
If you have a question or coming out, I'll answer it here live.
And in advance, I just want to thank all of you for leaving
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Okay, let's get to our voice mails here from the last few
months. We've picked out 20 or so that
we think provide a variety of your comments and feelings about
guests. We've had on the show topics me.
We'll try to play a little bit of everything here and so why
don't we just get right to it? Let's, let's begin.
With our our first voicemail, it comes from Robert in Hawaii and
let's give a listen to what Robert has to say.
Michael, this is Robert from Big Island, Hawaii, big fan, watched
all your movies, listen to your podcast and have great respect
for all your work this and I'm really concerned about this RF K
Jr. Book on fauci, it's gaining a
lot of traction and I feel that it needs to you know the claims
that he's making Really need to be addressed in a thoughtful
way. A lot of people are believing it
and I it's making me have some doubts about what's going on.
I've been triple backs and I'm very left-leaning liberal, but
we need to know exactly what's going on with these allegations
from RFK. I know he's a bit of a crackpot
in some ways and he's an anti-vaxxer, but please address
it in a file. Thoughtful way.
Thanks much, aloha, aloha to you.
Robert, listen, this is, this is one very disturbing RFK Junior,
but it started before covid years and years ago, he was one
of the early and most famous, anti-vaxxers, and we're talking
about the basic vaccinations that we've been given our babies
for the last, you know, 50 to 80 years.
And He just decided at some point that these, all these, all
vaccinations, essentially, were bad that we were giving our
children and that he made the claim that it was causing autism
and all this other stuff. And he's been thoroughly
debunked by all kinds of scientists and doctors and
there's you know, there's much you can read.
I'm not going to go into it now I'm what's been said about his
claims. I used to say, what's personally
just very sad about this is that, you know, he has the name
wherever Kennedy. If you read my book, my Memoir
of short stories from my life Called Here Comes Trouble,
there's a story in there about my parents took us to the
capital in, d.c. back. When I was cheese, how old was
I? Then 11. 512 somewhere in there.
I got lost and so I push the button for an elevator and got
in the elevator. And, and the door is closed and
the man reading the paper, put the paper down and it was it was
Robert Kennedy senator from New York at the time and he said,
are you lost? I said yes I lost my parents and
I can still kind of see myself with my lip quivering and
tearing up a bit. It and not knowing what to do
and he said, hey no problem. Just we're going to get off at
the next four here and I'm going to take you and get you some
help and so he took me, this would have been cheese.
I don't know what year is. This would have been 66 67 at
him some 65, I don't know. He took me to the to the place
in the in the near the Rotunda of the Capitol over the Capitol
Police were set up. So that I have a young man here
who is lost and can't find his parents and they said, oh
Senator that no problem. We'll take care of this and
thank you. And then he said, I'll just I'll
hang out here a little bit just to make sure everything's okay.
All right, it's like when I look back at this now I'm thinking he
had a hundred other things to do than to worry about.
About me, finding my parents. And we stood there and we
talked, we talked about the things that we're going on.
Then, look, it's the mid-60s, right?
We talked about Michigan and flint and just a really
wonderful and And then, and I could see my mom and my sister's
coming and my cousin. And, and so he said, okay,
everything's okay, here, I think they were probably a little
surprised that I was being cared for by United States, senator
from New York and brother of our former president.
So that, you know, I guess that's how I've always had this
sort of Interesting connection to his father to RFK Juniors.
Father, Robert Kennedy who will get, he himself was assassinated
a year or two later in 1968 and and RFK jr.
Robert Kennedy jr. Here.
His son, very early on. We did many things and
supportive friend, to fix our environment and whatever.
But, but, but before long he was Into this anti-vaxxers thing.
And and when he went that way, what was really odd at the time
is is how many of our so-called environmental leaders stayed
with him. Let him in let him be part of.
I remembered it was a protest on in Columbus Circle here and I
don't know when that was 2015, maybe somewhere in there and
there is Bill McKibben and and all these environmental leaders
there with him. And I remember thinking the
time, what are they doing with him?
Why. This, this is, this is not good.
But and now with covid, he's just gone crazy.
He's accused of pouchy of killing millions of people and
just stuff. I don't even want to repeat.
I know some of you listening to, this are also don't feel good
about the vaccine, you know. And you have every right to not
trust the government and not to trust the FDA the CDC lot of bad
history there with their behavior.
I get that. But we're right now in the
middle of trying to prove almost a lot million deaths in this
country. It's probably if you had the
real number would be beyond that, but, but anybody,
especially Robert. Kennedy jr.
Has whipped up so much fear and so much nonsense with people as
to whether that they should get vaccinated or vaccinate their
children, it's slowed us down. We should not be at this many
deaths right now. We should not be at this many
hospitalizations. Yeah.
Yes, it's gotten a little better here, and last few weeks, let's
hope it stays that way. But I don't think we're out of
the woods yet. I don't think anybody who's
smart about what's going on thinks we're out of the woods.
And yet, we've got people like RFK jr.
Doing this is, I believe five or five or six of us siblings
either written op-eds, written open.
Letters to the public saying, do not listen to our brother.
I know that's got to be very hard on them and I feel I feel
bad for them. I feel bad for their mom is
still alive and his mother and his mother too.
And it's just it's got to be a painful way.
For her in her Elder years to see the namesake of her
deceased. Husband her son.
Well, I'm sure she loves dearly doing this.
It's um, I don't know if anybody plays this for RF K, Jr.
Come on, buddy. Come on, man.
This is, this is not right, you should know what's not, right?
Look at all the lives that have been saved.
Don't be the cause of even one person dying or getting Long
Haul covid where they can't taste or smell anything for the
rest of their lives. Don't don't be the one
responsible for that. That's what I'm saying.
So that's how I feel about that and and if you're not vaccinated
yet or if you haven't gotten your booster, please do so.
It's clear the impact that this has had and we're very lucky for
the The men and women who got this together, started working
on it years ago. And as bad as it is, we have
saved a lot of lives. What is the critical race Theory
and the degrading white? People just want to know some
facts though. They won't be downgrading it.
Can you give me a simplified statement of critical race
Theory? Appreciate you?
Okay Todd. Thanks for asking how try to do
that. So I'm going to just going to
refer to an article in education week.
This this is a has become part of the national discussion in
the last year or so in a way that I think most people never
heard of it before anyways, it reads critical race theory is an
academic concept that is more than 40 years old.
The core idea is that race is a social construct and that racism
is not merely the product of individual bias or Prejudice but
also something that is embedded in legal systems and policies
and institutions throughout this country.
Well, I hope that explains like the dictionary definition of
this, but what's happened here is that when you say does it
degrade white people. I think the way to look at that
is that way, people some way people, a lot of way, people
have degraded white people, frankly, and in his, and have
used this degradation to continue the racist attitudes
that we still have in this country.
And so a lot of people across Cross the country, especially
since the murder of George. Floyd have been trying to make
sure that their local schools teach not something.
They don't really know what this is critical race Theory, but to
teach the fact that we have a racial history in this country
And our students are young people need to know about it,
learn about it and we need to become better people so that we
do not participate in this kind of racism any longer.
And that has driven literally millions of white people crazy
and they have packed school board meetings across the
country demanding that critical race Theory, not be taught
wanting to take things out of the history books about the
lynching of black Americans. The the real reasons for
slavery, the real reasons for the Civil War, all this nutty
stuff. And and a lot of school boards
being bullied, Being afraid have gone along with this.
So that so that our students are young people not be taught about
the true history of this country.
A history that is a living history that exists to this day.
So you know, I encourage people to go to your school board
meetings to stand up for telling the truth to our young people.
And and to, and to quit trying to sweep under the rug, the ugly
truth of this country, you know, you can love America and you can
love the fact that you're an American, and you're living here
and your grew up here and all that and still acknowledge.
What's wrong? What's wrong here?
Why are we still dealing with this?
White people. 65 66 percent, white men voted for Trump. 53,
percent of white. Women voted for Trump.
Yeah, we should talk about this and our kids should hear that
discussion. And you know, I participated in
donating to library certain books that have been recommended
by numerous Scholars, books are books about race that our kids
should read. I want to encourage you to do
the same and to do, whatever you can in your local school
district. And to support teachers, don't
let them to be fired because they're teaching the truth to
our kids. You know, if we just sit back
and do nothing, the haters will take over.
And that can't happen. Thanks.
Todd for letting me have a say about that.
Okay, our next voicemail is from Elliot, let's give a listen.
Hi Michael. I'm disturbed by what happens
when I Google planet of the humans, every liberal Outlets
review. Sounds exactly like Bill
McKibben and any other interview in this film such as on
questions about biomass. There seems to be no internet
digging, that can connect me with more community that
supports this. This film is that important?
The only people on this planet who really already understand
these reduction Concepts. So, clearly demonstrated in the
movie are indigenous communities all around the world.
How can we as white people? Lend are automatically powerful
positions in the system, to lift the screaming yet.
Often neoliberal e muzzled voices up so they can be heard
on these issues. They already know how to solve
climate change. Settler colonialism must end in
our hearts. You Adapt to co-exist, not adapt
to fit our addictions. Thank you.
Michael. The truth will be told, wow,
Elliott. Yes, the truth will be told and
it was told in Planet of the humans and that is why that film
has over 20 million views already.
People have told other people, you've got to watch this movie
and it is spread around the country and around the world and
Hat is off to Jeff Gibbs, the writer director producer of the
film and the other producer, Asia zener.
And of course, I'm executive producer of the film and very
proud of it. And so, I'm going to save, I
have some things to say about our so-called environmental
leaders, the ones that have have become beholdin to Wall Street
corporations. Two.
There's such a scam going on right now.
We were never going to fix this problem.
It's that shouldn't be called climate change.
It's a catastrophe. That's what it is.
It's an absolute catastrophe and it's and it's not just about
climate. There's, there's five or six
other things that are all feeding into an Extinction
event. That is taking place.
And we have to recognize it as that.
And we're 50 years Beyond where we should be 50/50, what?
Two years now after the first Earth Day, and these so-called
environmental leaders. What are they done?
It's worse now worse. You know, and as I've said
before, there's no other movement that is worse off.
Than they were 50 years ago. Women are not worse off since
they're still not the equality in the things that need to be
addressed or certainly not there yet.
But what other what other movement could we say?
They were the people are worse off?
It's her planet, is what's worse off?
And I'm sorry that I haven't jumped in sooner and I started
by just having a. I mean, I did I did start, I was
there on the first Earth Day number one and I I made a slide
show of the pollution in the Flint area that I went around.
It showed all these Community groups and churches and unions
and whatever this in 1970 and I got my Eagle Scout.
Out for doing this community service.
So I've been I've been talking about this since I was a
teenager but but I was very proud to Executive produce Jeff
Jeff's film and I but I you know I was pretty quiet at the time.
I just I let I let these people that are that have sold us out
have their say because there are too many too many other things
that we're going on. There and 2020 the beginning of
the pandemic and then George Floyd etcetera.
But but I've just been kind of biting my time and I am going to
have something to say on this podcast in the month of April.
And I'm going to share some things with all of you in terms
of what I think we all need to do.
We can't wait around for this any longer we are on the
precipice here. We are there is an edge to a
cliff. We are on it and we have been
sold short by the People that say that they care about the
planet and and what they've cared about is hooking up with
Wall Street with big money with big green, the fake green
companies. You know.
Oh man, I've got a lot. I've got a lot inside here that
I'm going to share with you and, but as far as this film, The
Elliot mentions, everybody you can watch it on my YouTube
channel, Michael Moore YouTube channel.
And I encourage you to do. So it's about an hour and 40
minutes, and if you haven't seen it, it'll blow your mind.
And and and then we, all all of us have to band together, to
fight to save this planet, to save this species.
We have no choice at this point and the worst thing to do would
be to continue to listen to the people that have taken us down
the wrong road. So thank you for watching planet
of the humans. Please share it with others.
This was a, you know, 20-year work of love.
Bye, bye. Jeff Gibbs and Ozzy.
Zener and I can't thank them enough for for doing what
they've done to help inform people on this planet about what
we need to do. So thank you a lot for that.
Okay, our next voicemail is from Jacqueline, hello.
It took this This obscene effort to sneakily reverse Row V late
after half century. It took this for left-wing
people, like you Michael Moore to start paying serious
attention to the Specter of the Reproductive Rights, being
smashed and smashed and smashed. I have long told leftist, you've
got to pay attention to this, but they didn't and now look at
what has happened. So thank you for doing this.
And thank you, especially for listing the names of abortion
clinics that people. I hope will contribute to we are
going to have another Underground Railroad soon.
Thank you. This is a very bad moment.
We're in regarding Ins rights in their Reproductive Rights, the
rights to control their own bodies.
Did I detect the Jacqueline was a little mad at me, too.
I, hmm. Well, let me just say this
Jacqueline. I did not just become aware of
this issue. When I was a teenager in high
school, abortion was illegal in Most states in the country, they
had made it legal in California and New York and there might
have been a couple of others. But it was illegal in Michigan
and so, a friend of mine, not somebody.
I was in a relationship with her but just a good friend became
pregnant and and I tell the story again in my book of short
stories of non fiction short stories, she did not want to
have a baby at the age of 16. So, you know, I said, well,
Buffalo, it's not long at that long of a drive from here, I
think we could probably get the Buffalo and I don't know what,
for five hours. Let's find a clinic in Buffalo
and so I won't go into the whole story here, but basically we
made this plan to drive the Buffalo.
You know, again, you're trying to get around your parents when
you're 16 years old, they don't exactly want you driving to New
York to get an abortion or to help somebody get an abortion
and eventually eventually because she couldn't do that.
She ended up In what was called back then?
A back alley, abortion in Detroit, and, and she almost
died and it was awful, just awful.
And I was so upset and I just decided that that point at age
16, 17 that I was going to set up some kind of method to where,
you know, we could drive people to Buffalo and make sure their
parents did know about it. And and so we started this
process and then just before Roe v--, Wade, happened Ian, some
some friends including Jeff Gibbs who we just talked about,
we go way back in case, you haven't figured that out, we
started was called a crisis intervention Center, the time
hotline Center and one of the things we did we did a number of
things. It was all run by essentially a
teenagers and Um early 20s. So we set up a runaway house for
runaways with their parents would know where they were
because because we were young, we knew that that vast number of
kids who run away from home are not running away because they
just want to live the life of a hobo on the rails.
You know, they're often running away from home because there's
some bad shit going on in that house.
And no adult would ever consider that possibility back then, at
that time, 1971. 72, 73. And so but we understood it
because they, they were the same people, we went to school with.
So we set up a runaway house, we set, we set up a women's shelter
where, again, the husband or the boyfriend, could not find out
where they were. This is all young people doing
this. This is again, we're back in
Flint, Michigan, in the Early 70s and it wasn't just myself
for me. I was doing this in conjunction
with lots of other people we were all and then and then
getting people to New York to get an abortion.
So, I've done this since, you know, I have done this sense of
time where I didn't know what the guys name was proust or
proust. I mean, I just I just I had I
had a year of college finally when I was 18, but I knew, I
knew right from wrong. And I knew, I knew being in the
Catholic Church how much women were relegated to second-class
Citizens, and how the Catholic Church?
Church became the Warriors. To control women's bodies to
stop choice and in any time I would ask one of these top.
Catholics usually men in the community, can you just point
out in the Bible here? New Testament where Jesus says
abortion is a sin or it's wrong. It doesn't exist.
They couldn't do it now and I thought as a kid at the time,
I'm just saying. Why aren't they so obsessed?
With abortion and stopping it. Of course, it didn't take long
into my 20s where I was maybe a little more evolved and
thinking. Well, of course, they having
control over women is a serious and important factor of how we
structure our society. If they start having control.
If they start running the show, if they start being paid the
same as men, the whole system that's been set up as a
patriarchy is going to crumble and I Spy the age of 21 or 22.
I guess I figured that out in my own.
So I've been very involved in this and and when we set up the
crisis intervention Center, one of the main things we did was do
everything from running. Private pregnancy test, it's
banquet for The Advocates, in the drugstore pregnancy.
Test for teenagers in high school, they know it was
completely confidential. We'd never tell their parents
and if they needed to set up an abortion, this is before most
States passed laws prohibiting teenagers from having a right to
their own bodies. But we were very active in
helping them those who didn't want to carry to term a baby to
take care of this to help them. Take care of it.
And that's what we did. And then, if I fought for this
instead of, for this, my whole life, as I do to this day on
this podcast and all the different episodes we've had
trying to get ready, trying to let our voices be heard for the
Supreme Court because by June or July, they are going to undo Roe
v-- Wade. They're going to take away a
basic right from the women of this country and we have to
raise holy hell, my friends. Now I know we're focused on all
this other stuff going on in the world and in this country but
but this this is this is a core value.
All humans have the right to their own bodies and to
determine what they are going to do with them.
And there's no equivocation, there's okay, Ivy outs to them.
So Jaclyn, thanks for bringing this up.
You probably weren't following my work, 20 years ago, which is
perfectly, okay? But I just want to let you know,
this has been a top priority here on Rumble.
It will continue to be and we will do our part in helping lead
the way to try to stop the Supreme Court in whatever way we
can. Our next voicemail is from Kara,
Sita Teresita. Let's listen to what you have to
say hello, Michael. My name is that is Sita.
There is so much. I would love to say to you, but
I'm going to have to keep it to one subject and it's about my
daughter. I wanted to thank you for
inspiring her she and I watched your films during covid and it
was just off I-94 her. I hope I hope we get to go to
your movie theater. It's one of our dreams.
Um this year's been tough and so thank you for helping me, not
take it so personal, so keep on keeping on, thank you very much.
Oh well, thank you for those kind words.
Thank you for showing my movies to your daughter.
I always love hearing that when parents share my work with the
Next Generation and in those of you who are listening to this, I
encourage you to do that in any way that you can, that's it's
much much appreciated and the and as far as coming to my
theater, I've to theaters actually that I set up a
nonprofit organization for in the Town, I live in in northern
Michigan. It's called Traverse City,
Michigan, and people are welcome to come.
We have rebuilt a hundred and five year old Movie Palace, that
was left for Left, 4 Dead, and myself, a bunch of people in the
community. Not only put it back together,
put it back together in a way in the old art deco look of it is
just beautiful and it's the Motion Picture Association of
America. In their magazine number of
years ago, let's hit. It is the best place in the
world to go and sit and watch a movie.
It was such an honor. It was like, like, the Pelé and
can is number four. So I guess that's enough
bragging about our movie theater, but I do, if you're
ever in the northern Michigan area, Stop by and see us and I'd
love to see you. So, we show great movies.
We only show, great movies, we don't show crap and we have
beautiful picture, beautiful sound, and something.
I'm very proud of and we have a film festival.
Every summer. We haven't had it the last two
summers because of covid. We're hoping we can have some
form of a festival this summer, so stay tuned for that but thank
you for sharing my work with younger people.
Love truly. Truly means a lot to me.
Okay, let's see. Our next voicemail is from Lila.
Hi, Michael. I just listened to your
discussion with Samuel Moines and I am furious and
disappointed. I do think that there are two
political parties in this country, but it's not, Democrats
and Republicans. It's politicians who value
profits over people, and politicians, who value people
over profits, and most Democrats, and almost all
Republicans. Value profits over people that's
just that's just the fact right now and we need a coalition of
the poor and the working class and the lower middle class has
to assert their power through nonviolent protest.
I really don't see any other way forward at this point.
The corporate Dems are not my party.
And they failed us. So anyway thanks, as always have
a good day. Okay Lila, thank you for saying
that. And first of all, don't give up.
I hear it in your voice and listen, you're not alone.
Millions and millions of us around this country.
We know what the score is here. The the so-called two parties.
The two factions in this country are.
Are those who have the money, and those who don't?
Those who have to struggle week to week, just to get by.
And then those who have made off like Bandits during this
pandemic, And it always seems to be that they get their way.
You know the Republicans they're very obvious about their love of
money and love of the money to politicians but where the
Democrats have the time, they talk a good line.
They promised us that we're going to have the child tax
credit and we're going, we're going to have universal
healthcare and we're going to do this or that or whatever.
And then they don't and then they say, well, we can because
we've got this these two Democrats at don't want to don't
want Support it. Well then what are we going to
do about those who Democrats or are we going to get more
Democrats in the United States Senate?
Where's where is the work that needs to be done and who's doing
it? And they should be on top of the
mountain shouting this out and organizing the majority of this
country that wants all the things, the Democrats say that
they want and yet and yet where is it?
Where is it? You're absolutely right about
that. You know as far as political
parties were such a large country you know and where and
we have a broad spectrum of political ideas and thoughts.
We should probably have there should be privy five political
parties to in order to represent all different groups in this
country. Maybe that's what it will end up
with you really need a parliament to do that though.
Don't you not the kind of crazy government that that our
Founders thought was a good idea because it wouldn't be like the
British. Well, this, you know, not that
the British had thought this out way in advance to be a good
idea. But basically it's a good idea
to have everybody represented in Parliament or in Congress.
All viewpoints all kinds of people the diversity that should
exist, isn't there? So, I mean, we said this many
times, women are the majority gender.
And yet they have only 26 percent of the seats in
Congress. So how is that?
That the gender that's fifty one fifty, two percent of the
population only holds twenty six percent of the power and that's
political power economic power. How many women CEOs are there?
How many women run these Walsh Wall Street?
I mean, it's just It's a joke and I agree with you and we just
have to keep fighting. We have to keep working at it.
And yes, sometimes we have to vote for Democrats because it's
the only way to stop the madness.
The Avalanche of hate that comes from the right wing and the
Republicans but at the same time we have to we have to change the
way this is being done. It's not just about oh let's
let's get behind the Democrats in the Nets.
It and many Democrats will tell you that you are right to do
that to not just get behind. The Democratic party.
You know, a lot of people now we know the squad and the others
that are in Congress they've seen firsthand Why the
Democratic party is not necessarily out for what's best
for the American people. And that we often times it vote
for them just so that the, like I said, the Avalanche doesn't
succumb all of us. And let's go to our our next
voicemail from Holly. Hi Michael.
This is Holly Severson. I'm a nurse who lives in San
Francisco. Now although I'm from Madison
Wisconsin and went to school in Ann Arbor.
I'm just calling I listen to you all this all the time.
And I'm a little bit concerned that the call that you had with
the From Nicaragua, who worked for Starbucks?
I'm a little bit scared that you probably got him in troubled.
I know you were very careful not to try to lure him into dissing
Starbucks but the things that he said on there are very probably
very controversial to a place like Starbucks.
And also I mean they tape all their calls and you had him on
the phone for a very long time. So I just wanted to say it was a
cool thing but I am concerned about him.
I don't know if there's any way for you to check on that later.
Possibly. Not.
Anyway, thanks for what you do. I, I'm so glad you brought this
up. We, we too were very concerned
about this. If you remember the episode I
had on the union organizers from the Starbucks up in Buffalo,
which is now expanded all across the country, to so many workers
at Starbucks who are signing Union cards and so we had the
idea. Why don't we just call up?
Starbucks headquarters out there in Seattle and see if they'll
talk to me about, why are they trying to interfere with the
Union organizing and we called the number?
And it turned out to be picked up by a man with a Spanish
accent and I just happened to say to them, you're not in
Seattle, are you doing? He said, no, I'm in, I'm in the
Latin America and I said, we're at.
He said Nicaraguan and said, oh, I've been there we started
talking about that very nice. Guy and I told him why I was
calling me. I wanted to tell the management
at Starbucks to kind of leave these workers alone on the if
they want to form a union, let them from Union.
And then he started talking about the importance of free
speech and it was beautiful. It was at the things that he
said in the rear and the respect that he showed toward the
workers. And in the editing, we made sure
that we just we didn't put his last name in there obviously,
and we did we did bring it down quite a bit but but I did leave
it. Long because I thought how often
you get to hear from just an average working person in
Nicaragua. In this country, one who's
working for one of our big corporations and I tried to, as
you heard, if you heard, it was very careful because I did not
want to get him in trouble, but nonetheless, it's it has.
We've been worried about him ever since.
And so, we've started a process here to find out.
Make sure he's okay that he still employed.
He didn't say anything against our books and what he said, I
think if they were smart, the fact that he was a person who
supported democracy and free speech, and being good to
workers, all sounded good if I were running Starbucks but what
we know now what Starbucks has become.
So I promise you this, we will get to the bottom of this to
make sure that he still employed.
That nothing happened to them. And if and if something bad did
happen, then I'll tell you that too.
But we'll find out. Sometime in the next month or so
hopefully we'll get some answers to this.
That's a very good question and one that is kept us up at night.
So thank you for asking it and reminding us of the
responsibility that we have. Let's do one more right now.
This is taking a lot longer than I thought it wouldn't.
We picked when we have the best 24 that we thought was a good
diverse group of things and and we're not going to get to that
today on this episode. So why don't we promise?
How to do part two of this, maybe next month because I want
you to hear the these other voicemails and I have answer to
them and maybe there's questions in there that some of you have
had and I'd love to answer them so why don't we just agree to
it? Will pick back up on.
This will got one coming. We're going to close from
somebody from Boca Raton, always a good way to end any episode
but don't go away after that because I want to play, you
something from Odessa in Ukraine.
Our last of voicemail Part. One of Mike's voice mail will
come from Roberta of Boca, Raton, Florida.
Hi Michael. This is Roberta satin call him
from Boca Raton, Florida. I just want to tell you that, I
love all your articles and I sent you a memo that we must get
rid of the Senate as it is. We should have Senate
representing population. I don't care if California gets
Ten Cent, L and the whole upper part of the country gets one
Senator. That's the way it should be in a
democracy or else. The Senate should be like the
House of Lords in England. Irrelevant only representative
government. How can we make that happen?
You are doing your best. I am spreading the word among
the people. I know.
I love your articles. Thank you.
Keep them coming. Well Roberta.
Thank you. It's a great way to close.
Thank you for what you said and let me agree with you.
The Senate is not an institution of any form of what we would
call a democracy, they are non representative of the people.
The fact that Wyoming with for 500,000 people gets two senators
and California with over 40 million, people gets two
senators. That is not Democratic equal
representation, pure and simple. It was a bad idea from the
get-go. In fact, if as I'm sure, you
know, the history of it, the American people never got to
vote for their Senators until the early 1900s before that they
were appointed either by the state legislature or, you know,
one outgoing Senator would see. Here's the incoming.
I mean, it was just, it wasn't, it was never meant to be
Democratic, we live in the 21st century.
Now, it's got to go even though the whole Senate should go and
we should just have we have one house.
The house that represents each member of the House of
Representatives represents about seven hundred and seventy
thousand Americans so that it's equal and and the Senate is not
that, and the fact that we don't have these things that we need
right now, from Healthcare to child care, to elder, care to a
living wage. Just go down the list of all the
things we would have if it wasn't for the non-democratic.
Non-equal United States Senate. So Roberta.
I hear you loud and clear. I think a lot of people look at
this. Hear you loud and clear?
This would probably require some form of a Constitutional
Amendment, which is scary and its own way.
So but it never gets discussed. We haven't talked about it
really on maybe one episode we did, but We should we should
make this one of our priorities, to reclaim our democracy, to
strengthen our democracy, equal representation for all
Americans, and more than 26% of the House and Senate
represented. By the majority gender, come on.
We look ridiculous. And I'm telling you to history
100 years. Now, if the planet survives
we're going to look really ridiculous.
Why did the majority gender hold so little power.
So I'm all for this and it's a great way to end this this
version of our voicemail. But I'm going to come back
because I've heard these other ones and I want to play them for
you. So sometime in the next month
will do that and but I want to get to Something just with
Ukraine here just for the last few minutes, and before we do
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Well I want to say something about Ukraine and what's
happening and you know I like you been very upset what's been
going on and I remain hopeful. I remain convinced that That if
you watch the video of Putin addressing his generals, the
generals are caught. Looking at each other.
With that look. When you look at somebody And
you think you're trying to communicate that guy's crazy.
And I think I don't I don't know how these genuine.
These generous cannot be liking this one single bit.
The ukrainians have slowed down the Russian Advance.
They are not going to give up. They're going to have another
gorilla. Were like they have with
Afghanistan. There's no way to win this and,
and it it just is just Madness and I feel so bad for the
Ukrainian people, but I ran across something actually was
sent to me by the cousin of the musical director of the Odessa
Philharmonic Orchestra and Odessa, of course, is one of the
main cities in Ukraine and It's a video of essentially, the
Philharmonic decided to do a flash mob Symphony in the main
fish market in Odessa and destitute notes on the sea.
And so, a lot of fish, a lot of fish markets.
And and so I'm going to put a link on my podcast page here.
If you want to watch the video part of this or just hit the
arrow here, to listen to the the Beautiful audio.
It's it's, it's it's beautiful. Its haunting this happened.
I think around 2015, right after the first Russian invasion in
the last decade in Ukraine, Where They seized the Crimea
section of Ukraine. And, and so, the Philharmonic
decided to put on a flash mob Concert for Peace and bit by
bit, they just show up at the fish market with it.
Instruments with her cellos and their violins, and their horns.
And and you don't quite know what's happening at first
because the place is packed. It's like like on a Saturday
morning and everybody's buying all the fish and they're
scraping fish and all this. And then all of a sudden you see
somebody with an instrument, then you see a second person and
then all of a sudden the whole bunch of people are are setting
up in the middle of a fish market and it looks like in the
background. A bunch of people.
We learn become the choir. To sing this piece of this
Beethoven piece, that they decided to perform for the
people of Odessa, it's beautiful.
I thought it'd be a nice thing to share with you today.
Amidst all the, all the grief, and all the sadness, and fear
people have. And to remember that art, art,
is always there to stand up for us to fight for us to fight for
the truth. And to remind us of our
Humanity. So here we go, let's just play
this and or you can watch it on the link here.
You'll Dessa Philharmonic Orchestra in Odessa Ukraine some
six or seven years ago, And on that note, I will bid you all
good night and we will talk soon.
Take care of, this is Michael Moore, this is Rumble.
Thank you to our executive producer, bezel Hampden, our
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Thank you, we will peace.