Hello, everyone. This is Sarah Rumble with
Michael Moore. I'm Michael Moore and Damn it.
I've got covid. Damn, I'm just you know I'm just
in a State of Shock and a bit here but you're very like, I've
held this thing off for almost three years.
All right, I mean the first time for some I remember hearing
about Kobo was, I think it was December of 2019.
Is that right? Yeah, I decided to start this
podcast and I think our first one was around December 19th.
And we just, you know, heard a little bit Bit about it, maybe
there was, maybe there was one case in the state of Washington,
I can't remember. Now, I'm in a, some sort of a
bit of a fog here, but, and but sorry.
I'm, they have to listen to that in your ear buds, uh, II, my
editor will try to take out a lot of this.
My said, look, we'll be doing this all night.
If we try to cut every cough, or every piece of dehydration,
that's going on inside me. So, I'll try to keep this brief
and not too gross sounding. But as I was saying, I just I
followed all the rules obeyed, the doctors, the scientists
everybody. I have four different shots in
me, the first two vaccines, and then the two booster shots since
then, and I was just getting ready here, a couple weeks ago
as set up an appointment to get the new booster for the new
variant. Which see?
I don't know I you know this coronavirus is a living thing,
all right? It is life.
As they say, it has no right to life.
And I, I think it was somehow figured out.
I was going to go get that new variant, because my doctor told
me a couple months ago, he said that with this new B5 beat
member was B4 B5. He says, this is the one that's
going to nail you. This is going to get you because
it's getting everybody because it's so contagious.
So vastly contagious, but it's we In the sense because it's, it
is, you know, like when you make a Xerox copy of a copy and then
you make a copy of it and make a copy of that copy, you know, how
that looks after four or five times of make the copy.
So, so, it's week, and that's why this new variant not as many
people are dying, not as many people end up in the hospital.
It's, there's no more phlegm that comes out.
Now it's just this damn dry cough, which I just a tribute, I
guess to the probably. I'm just dehydrated still.
But anyways, sorry. So that's the good news I guess
is that. And and he said this is so, but
it's so contagious. It's just like, it's getting
everybody who like you have held off from getting covid for these
nearly three years. And so I said well, so like like
how contagious is it? And he made some sort of Dry
comment of. Well, look at it this way if
there's oxygen or CO2 in the room there's covid in the roof.
So I went into like even though I had already been in a lot of
this lockdown here, over these three years I haven't I haven't
flown a plane in three years. I have not been to a play in
three years. I've not been to a concert in
three years. All I should say.
You know, I was walking by the sea.
Theater, couple months ago and on the Marquee.
It's a Jackson Browne was playing inside and I like, oh
man, it's sold out. Catch someone up to the box
office and I said, you know, eight is there any chance I
could just get buy a ticket where I don't sit in the
theater, but you could put me by, I can open exit door or
someplace where there's fresh air coming, it and the woman was
very nice. She recognized me, and she said,
hey, let me, let me go see if we can, yeah, if we can set.
Thing up for you. I said, yeah.
No, I'll pay to I want to just I just, I just man, this would
lift my spirits to hear Jackson Browne, and she came back and
with this guy and he says, yeah, could just follow me and took me
into the back back, back of the theater by the exit door, like
that went out to the alley or whatever.
And it and he just he cracked it open.
He said just sit here and stick your, you know, head toward the
crack here in the, in the The door and you just get nothing
but fresh air. I said, oh my God.
And of course, I'm double mastectomy ways, right?
Because I'm I follow the rules and so, you know, if you would
ask me to wash my hands, I want to wash my hands.
I mean it's like so Oh my God. It was so beautiful.
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All right, Jackson Browne. When I said I was out for a
walk, I mean I really wouldn't. Let's that's I'm gonna dignify
the word walk. I mean I just needed some fresh
air because I been so hold up in this apartment.
I've been taking some vitamin D because there's been no sunlight
on my skin for the use of these three years.
And so anyways I so I first I tested negative for coitus
couple weeks ago but I had the symptoms in on And then in a
couple days later tested positive.
And then now confirmed I have covid and I'm talking like
there's somebody here in the room.
That's the other thing, too. You know, my producer and editor
and it all the people I work with the people.
I generally work with us. We're planning the next film or
the next TV thing, you know, it's been nobody here
everything's been by remote. In fact, I had come to New York
because we were going to start doing some pre thing.
Cooking here for the next film project.
This is back in, you know, February of of 2020 and we just
come off the tour with Bernie I got out with Bernie and to those
they are very early primary and what are they called?
I like in this covid fog in like one of those those 1930s
Sherlock. Films, you know, where there's
just nothing, but a fog over the over the bog, what they call the
Moors. Yes, that's that's where my
brain is, like, right now. Anyways, whatever those other
things, they have besides primaries.
And so what with Bernie and I asked my sister, she'd like to
come along and she did and then I asked a basil, you know, our
longtime producer for movies and, and who started this
podcast with me, if he'd like to come.
And so he's an asshole, the three of us basically got on the
bus, or the minivan, or whatever.
And, you know, we'd be in Iowa and we need to hit six or seven
cities a day and You know, Bernie of course, draws huge
crowds. And he also, he'd have great
rock bands play or or Cornel West would be there or Naomi
Klein or AOC. So, if, you know, these people
draw, wonderful, huge crowds, and so, so each night, and
essentially, all day, and then, there'd be the big one at night,
maybe in some basketball arena. We're working the line, I'm
shaking hands. I'm doing Selfies.
I'm doing, you know, I'm making contact with thousands of people
in the first two months to covid has hit our Shores yet.
We didn't really know what we knew it was around and, and
Nick, one of my editors here in this podcast and all-around.
Good guy, he was with us in Donald you, remember you guys
all remember Donald borenstein? He was with us out on the road
because we did do some taping and little bit of filming and
And Nick, Nick, we were riding around and Nick is wearing a
mask. He's wearing a mask in January,
okay? Remember the lockdowns, not till
March? But this kind of wasn't messing
around and it's like, what do you know that?
We don't know where you from? Like he was just laughing said,
no I just think it's a say, why not be safe?
Of course. Right.
I'll be safe. So you know, months later.
April May June my sister and I and Basel.
We were all talking. And I said, remember when we
got, we got off the road with Bernie the air before super
Tuesday and came back to get to work on the next movie.
Did you guys feel well, when that ended with Bernie, I mean I
don't mean mentally well because all obviously we were sad
because, you know, we wanted Bernie to be the next president,
but and they said, yeah, I am I such I said no no I was sick.
As soon as I went home completely exhausted.
I couldn't, I literally couldn't move.
I said wow, what are you basically said?
Well, I had yeah, I had kind of like a flute.
Wasn't the flu, but it felt like the flu.
I'm like, wow, it's about this time again and we're now in the
spring. So we're you know, thinking now
we know a lot or early, you know, we know someone about
covid. I said, you know, what happened
to me? I got back the first three
nights. I'm back from The Bernie tour
and I wake up every night with my t-shirt soaked.
I mean soaked, like it was thoroughly wet from sweat and my
sister who you put you had a fever I said yeah clearly I
didn't think that at the time. I just thought I've got the heat
on, you know how these New York buildings are?
Let's heat in the winter and spring.
And some water here. I think I said, I think we all
might have got covid. So I called up the dining, the
doctor, and the doctor said, well, that's so many months ago,
there's no way to really know now.
So we all kind of figured, we got it because we didn't get it.
None of us for these almost three years.
And I to my best of my knowledge, I know my sister
having, I don't think Basil's gotten it and I probably have
already violated the HIPPA laws and revealed too much about
Basil's condition here but and then I got it.
I got it a couple weeks ago and I'm like damn.
I'm sorry, I've been so good and I've and I've not been around,
I've not eaten. I've not I've not eaten in a
eaten, I've not eaten. That's another thing covid.
Does it gives you new words? I've not eaten in an indoor
restaurant. You know, I've sat outside with,
you know, few times with friends, but I've not done
anything. I've not been around people like
I said, and and I thought I was going to get rewarded.
And now I said to the doctor last week, I said, what was the
point of denying myself human contact for so long of putting
my movie? On hold of putting, you know, he
says, well, you know, actually everything you did has kept you
alive, and it's going to keep you alive now, because you
didn't have to suffer through. Like, she's what is the number
of some awful number here. In New York, we're like one out
of it at first. Year, one out of three hundred
New Yorkers died. I mean it was huge.
It was like, right? It's in the thousands.
No. I mean the thousands and
thousands of New Yorkers and he said, so you didn't, you didn't
get that covid. You got vaccinated right away.
Well, you know, to be honest I got back to backs in February.
I waited a month or two, I waited December January.
I didn't get it. And of course I was going to get
it. There was, you know, I was gonna
get it but you know, is it weird that I didn't want to be first
in line? I thought I wanted somebody else
to be my guinea pig, but I just it's why I've always under I've
understood why on some level, why people haven't gotten
vaccinated even though I have pleaded with people to get
vaccinated and and that Are these unnecessary fears.
But, you know, people would say, Mike, you know, these are not
right Wingers. These are people on the left, so
Mike, you know, come on. Trust the government here.
This what we're going to do now, we're going to trust the
pharmaceutical companies. Pfizer, come on Mike and I'm
like yeah I know I know but we got to know you can't just have
a blanket thing for everything you got to you, you know, just
because we like these corporations, I mean the
pharmaceutical companies, they actually do make drugs that we
need. And these drugs have saved
lives. That's the last good thing I'll
ever say about them. And, you know, when I made my
film sicko, they were I ran into these Pharma reps.
They were at some convention in whatever I was in my book tour
or something. And they while we were really
surprised that you didn't go after us.
You know, you went after the insurance companies, I said well
yeah. But the the main reason is we
actually do need medicine so you know, you are providing A
service to society and and becoming filthy rich off
people's pain and suffering. Yeah, but we do need that.
We don't need health insurance. That is a private company that
is set up to make a profit because the way they make the
profit, Is by providing as little Service as possible.
And that's why when you go in and you get they deny you going
to see a specialist or whatever because of course they're not
going to make a profit if they pay for everything to get you.
Well, it's better to actually have you sick and stay sick
because that's where the money is money.
Is not in the Cure. Okay, enough of the sermon on.
You already know all this yourselves already.
So, and so getting off on that. Now, I remember where I was
anyway. So oh yeah.
Sorry, I got the in February, whenever the vaccine started.
I waited a couple months clearly there was not a mass die-off,
and, and this was a good thing, and I trust dr.
Fauci. And I don't think Biden would do
anything to harm or cause the death of people in this country.
And and so, you know, I just thought the smart thing to do
was to do this and I'm sorry for the people that haven't done it.
I'm sorry for the misinformation, they've spread.
I'm sorry for the 1 million, 60,000 Americans who've died and
millions more around the world. Because either they bought into
something that wasn't true. They they LED and went with
their fears instead of of just being rational and thinking this
thing out and we've lost a lot of people because of this and
someday, we'll have a discussion about it.
But You know, I don't I don't think I you know, we all got
these shots when we were babies and we got shots before we went
to school. The idea was we don't want to go
to school as kids and in fact or get infected by other people.
And so I think it was the month. I was born was some of the first
polio shots that were given out. And this was a horrible thing in
the generation just before mine polio and then it wasn't because
of Listen because of Science. And I am saying all this because
I believe that I'm probably a live here through covid because
I believed in science. Because I wore a mask because I
washed my hands and because I isolated myself from situations
where I wouldn't be around a lot of people.
And to be honest, again, I have to say the two some more water.
I have to say that the That first year of covid, when I was,
when I really essentially locked myself into my apartment here in
New York. and, You know, the whole city got quiet, no traffic
on the streets. It was really weird because
you're so used to New York. Like the noise It's just always
there and you just your brain accepts it.
After a point, you don't even don't even notice it, but they
have it that quiet and there was already so much noise in my life
for like the last 20 or 30 years.
I mean, it was just like, you know, I could never really had
much of a much quiet time, you know, busy making my films,
writing my books, doing our TV series, all that stuff and then
just the other stuff I do just to try and help out, you know,
politically or help out and you know, places where I'm from Like
Flint Michigan and so there's never much quiet in my life and
then and then it got quiet there, the first months of covid
and I found myself really appreciating it and think This
is so nice and the phone didn't ring and, you know, and I'm
living by myself and and the apartment building got quiet.
And I remember one day I was calling down to the downstairs.
The front desk there in the in the building.
I said, hey why is it so quiet? So because everybody's left New
York. He said, he said, he said, I
think two-thirds of the building is gone.
Where'd they go? He said, most people are have
gone to live with family elsewhere in the country.
At that point, I think people thought they were just going to
go for a few weeks. Maybe what had compromises
Easter, it'll all be over by Easter, that wasn't the case.
And I decided to take that time, that quiet time and do some
things. I just haven't done in a long
time. I started doing some writing and
I started writing things. I had never written.
I started writing a play. I started writing a fiction
film. I started writing poems.
I don't like probably should admit that don't ask me to read
any of these poems. This their pandemic poems and
song. There they stay with me.
But but my point is that I tried to make the best of a bad
situation. And yes, it was lonely and and I
sell em, the lonely in that sense because I have not
re-emerged this hit me while I was still being very careful and
somewhat Isolated and here, I am talking to you now.
And, and I promised myself, I wouldn't go on too long because
I don't, my energy is not come back.
Here's the good news, though. The symptoms started going away,
the coughing I'm still doing. I don't want to say the work
has, I'll start to cough. It sounds worse than it is.
But you know how? When you be required for two
weeks, it's hard. It's almost like a spaz Matic
response and And but I, you know, I haven't, I haven't
gotten long, any long code would knock on wood here, I can smell
things. I could taste things.
My hair hasn't fallen out. Thank God, I'll to all of that
apologies and certainly sympathy to all of you.
Any of you who've had to suffer through any of that, but I'm
haven't had to check into a hospital, I'm alive.
And, and each day, it gets better.
Each day. I've done a couple of Home tests
this week, there were positive but the doctor said that's that
you could be negative. Now, it's just that sometimes
after its, you're no longer contagious or still a Remnant in
it, the home Test shows as positive, but but if it shows us
- and just, you know, take one every couple days if you want,
but once it shows - it won't, it's not there's no false
negative here. Usually, this sort of with these
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All right. So back to my covid, Ico and
Horror Story which is not really a horror story.
And now, by this point, you're probably wondering.
So, wait a minute, this whole tsunami of Truth Mike's midterm
tsunami truths that you write every day as I have.
You done this. If you been Have, you've got
covid. It's so funny because it's,
like, literally a couple days before I got covid.
I I think this was my last podcast to you, right?
So, this is a couple weeks ago, I said that, you know, I was
going to start this daily thing. There's 44 days to the election
or something, and I'm going to do 44 of these one a day.
And I want you to pass him around, I want you think about
it, I want you to get involved because we can solidly win both
houses of Congress and not let these people take over.
And then two days later, I get covid.
There is some kind of conspiracy theory.
I I need to latch onto around this, right?
So II. Yes.
So I have written all of these in.
Well the first certainly, the first half of the month were
written in bed and you know with all my coughing and wheezing and
you know and just generally being exhausted.
I think any of you have had covid-19 what I'm talking about
and now I get up and move around the house a little bit and What
I've been writing you every day while I've been here.
In my sick bed, this is really important to me.
My whole plan was to spend October in the first week of
November really on the road. Visiting the Battleground
States, the states where we're trying to elect Senators.
We've got it, we can't get by with 50 50 anymore and in fact,
52 won't be good enough for me. We need 54 55 Democrats in the
Senate that we were two of them to just to offset cinnamon and
Mansion. But you know, it's You know, I
worked all summer long on a lot of things laying the groundwork,
helping out people in different localities being on the phone
participating in local meetings, to giving pep talks through Zoom
to you know, get people involved in this row.
Vember as I call it election season and then just as I'm
ready to hit the road this happens.
So so I Not knowing I was going to get Kovac came up with this
idea that I would put something on my sub stack every day and it
would be not long and it would just be a short thing to give
you information facts. Things you can share with people
to let them know that we are going to win this and how we're
going to win it and what each of us need to do so, but the time I
spent at each day and the Edible assistance that I've had from
Angela Angela, vargo's who is both the producer of this
podcast and, and the editor of it, she's also the editor of my
written sub stack, my blog, my columns that I put out there on
sub stack and she's just an all-around good.
Smart, decent person and helps me with a lot of great thinking
about what do we need to do next?
What's the next thing? We need to deal with?
With how can we help the election?
So I just wanted to say that publicly and you know, because
she's the editor, I can guarantee you shouldn't try to
cut this out, I'm going to also guarantee the fact that you are
actually listening to, this means that I'm still the boss of
me. And and I'm sure I know she's
laughing right now. When she's listening, she
doesn't listen to this because I'm just recording this here
sitting in a very comfortable. Lazy Boy, by the way, do we have
them as Underwriters? Ought to say something about.
About lazy way. Anyways, I'm just saying all
this because I It's a minute, maybe a maybe, the next podcast.
We'll talk about the tsunami that I believe is going to
happen on November 8th. It's already happening now
because early voting has started in a number of states, and I've
got that on my sub stack. And you can see if your States,
one of them vote early vote, early or vote by absentee, what
we call used to call absentee. Now it's mail-in voting, so it's
important to get people to vote. It's important to get the non
voters to vote. You're not going to convince a
single Trump voter to change their vote that ship has sailed.
I probably should stop because I'm I feel my body kind of
shutting down its it doesn't have a lot of gas in the tank
these days but I I am not going to stop and I don't care how
tired or exhausted. I feel whatever we've got.
What do we got now? 20, 22 days to November 8th
every ounce of energy that I can expend.
Moment I have is being spent on the selection and so stay tuned
for the both the midterm daily tsunami of Truth.
And I will continue to have that here sent to you via email every
day. And I will, I will do another
podcast here this week, as I feeling more and more recovered.
And I have some other ideas up my sleeve, we all have a
mission. Shin in front of us, the power
is in our hands. So it's up to us to use it and
to put aside, our cynicism in our despair because there are
more of us than there are of them.
And and in the end, I believe good does usually Prevail not
always. Sometimes it takes a long time,
but I'm very optimistic about our chances here in three weeks.
And I hope you are too, but optimism alone.
Cannot win an election and hope sir.
Italy will never win an election.
It actually takes work, not a lot of work.
If everybody listening to this, just got one or two more people
to vote that maybe weren't going to vote.
We'll be in good shape. That's it for today.
Thank you, Angela, for all your great work on this podcast and
on the sub stack. And thank you lister's for
letting me. Thank for Underwriters today in
this, because I've been off my men off the clock here and I
appreciate the patience of the people who put up the money for
this. And I appreciate all of you and
wondering what had happened to me.
I'm okay. And I would tell you, if I
wasn't, I feel very fortunate. And again I believe that my
belief in science is what kept me safe and healthy for this
long and has got me through it. This quick without side effects
or other serious problems, I'll be talking to you soon.
We will take care drink. Lots of water.