This is Rumble with Michael Moore and I'm Michael Moore.
Welcome everyone. We're just we're coming up here
on Christmas Eve. And just a few hours and I
wanted to get this week's podcast out to you because of
what is going on with the pandemic right now and I wanted
to talk to one of our favorite doctors dr.
Peter hotez from Houston who has really been speaking.
The truth on TV and anywhere he can and I had him on here before
and I wanted to ask him some some direct questions.
So hang on for that. That's coming up here in just a
couple of minutes I guess doing this, doing this, on the panda,
this becomes our Christmas podcast this year, the previous
two years, you know. This is a we hit our second
birthday with this podcast this past week.
Well just in time for Christmas Omicron is everywhere.
Just in the span of this one past week Omicron jumped from
about 3 percent of the The cases in the United States to 73
percent of all cases in this country and in some parts of the
nation. It's as high as 90%.
This thing has taken off like wildfire, in every part of
America. Try to get an at-home test.
They're sold out everywhere. Try to go line up for one of the
free testing sites. You know, you could be there,
good, couple hours the Four blocks the lines around the
blocks and that's until they run out of test themselves.
All this is happening just in time for the holidays, the
biggest travel season of the year where most people won't or
can't afford to change their travel plans and they miss their
families. It's understandable, but it's
also the most dangerous time since the started actually two
years ago this month but there is good news in all of this.
If you're vaccinated your odds of hospitalization or death are
like virtually nil. They're so low.
If you've had your two shots, if you've had your booster shot,
but there's still a lot of considerations and Mild cases
that can meet a lot. Lot of different things.
For instance, the Long Haul case, just people.
I know that that have lost their hair, they can smell, they can't
taste her. They need 12 to 14 hours of
sleep at night and they just had a mild version of delta or
Omicron and it didn't matter. It didn't matter and now they
don't know how many months or years, they'll have what are
called these long-haul covid things.
So, to help you understand what to expect with this.
Affected Christmas gift of a brand new wave of covid and how
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The director for vaccine development, at Texas Children's
Hospital, one of the leading forces behind the development of
the corvax vaccine designed their rate in Texas for low-cost
mass production in the developing World in a leading
public voice. And Advocate regarding covid-19
here in the US. He's the dean of the national
school for tropical medicine. Ian, a professor at Baylor
University, his voice and his willingness to challenge what's
going on so that it gets done and gets done.
Now, not next year now it's it's inspiring whenever I see him.
And every time I've had him on, he has told us the things that
really not many other people are telling us and we're lucky to
have him as one of our great medical and scientific.
M to rumble here in the last two years.
Doctor says, thank you so much for coming back here to my
podcast here on Rumble much appreciated.
Michael. Thanks so much for having me.
We have appreciated, not only you being Rumble, but through
these last couple of years but also all the good work that you
do there at the University in the hospital in, not Texas and
and and on television much of what you say when you're being
interviewed. Viewed is you're not pulling any
punches and you're not trying to sugarcoat it so we can all feel
better. Why is dr.
Hotel saying this Christmas is two days away, you see?
So I know the situation you're in, but I've always said that
when you rather know from the doctor, like the whole story the
whole truth. Well, what I try to do Michaels
that trying to not just give Doom and Gloom predictions, but
but explain my assumption so that people can make informed
decisions. I think this is the problem
we've had with Communications. I'll all two years from our us
Public Health, Service in the CDC.
They, they talk to us like we're in the fourth grader, 6th grade.
Don't just make these pronouncements with no
underlying information, so you can't make any assessments.
And what I try to do is explain for instance.
You know, why that Omicron may not be so mild.
The fact that what the database coming out of of Africa and UK
is because Omicron followed immediately on the heels of
Delta. And so, a lot of the infections
were actually re-infections and that's why they made it appear
mild and then people yesterday get it and say may not apply to
the us. So you can make a decision about
whether to fly your mother-in-law from New Jersey
down to Houston and that sort of thing.
And I think that's what people appreciate that that I talk to
them. Like, adults.
I treat them as equals and Try to give them useful information
that they can process make the best decisions again for
themselves. But what becomes I think?
Confusing are scary for a lot of people's.
I'll just take the last 24 hours of the news cycle is now they
first, we all got scared. This new variant.
The last 24 hours now has been. Oh, this isn't so bad.
It's mild people aren't dying from it and it's like well what
do you do? What are you telling us here?
So don't worry. Worry about it or and it's kind
of you know to the civilians those of us who are just trying
to figure this out. Yeah.
And that's the problem. So you can make an informed
decision. What I do is I actually I
explain why some people think it's not going to be mild
Illness but others may not agree.
And here's why. Here are the assumptions people
use to come up with the conclusion that they think it's
mild and here's why that might be not correct and the problem
doing it of course is when you're doing a hit on MSNBC or
CNN, it'll let me back on Fox. Anymore.
But is that you only get you know, two or three minutes and
then you know the producers shouting in your ear, wrap up
wrap up and you're trying to get that information out.
But but the Network's haven't the cable news networks of a
generally pretty good about letting me explain.
And that's why people like it because not because then they
come away. Oh, now I get it now, I
understand what, what this is, and also your on both CNN and
MSNBC which, which means I assume That you're not beholding
to one or the other? No, I'll talk to anybody.
I got on BBC. I do.
You know, I mean, I work for food.
So I don't I don't get paid by any.
You don't get paid by the cable networks.
No, no, wow. So just for the people
listening, what are they talking about?
Is that and I know that, and I don't either I go on whoever,
but a lot of the commentators are paid, which is
understandable, you know, they cable news needs.
People standing by as guests to go over this.
But yeah. No, I have no problem for people
who get paid to do it. That's if they do that as part
of their job sign and and Mike in my case they didn't they
didn't offer and I didn't ask and I feel grateful to have the
opportunity to speak to the nation and the fact that fox
won't have you anymore. I've actually thought about
going on Fox just for the possibility that for every 10
people who are watching me and there's and there's nine that
are got I'm coming out of their ears if that one, if I reach
that 11 out of 10. Oh, I absolutely agree.
I mean I was asked to go on Fox News in the daytime but couple
of months ago, the daytime anchors didn't hang in there
with me for a while. The nighttime guys cut me off
pretty quickly when I started saying that Trump was launching
a anti-science disinformation campaign, that glows me up the
daytime, some of the daytime Acres, I'm getting there with
the hung in there with me for a while and then they finally Shut
me out, but I'll go on Fox. I still have been on Newsmax a
few times in for the exact reason you say because those are
exactly the people we need to reach.
I mean, I sometimes I feel too often are preaching to the
converted, right? Well, because if you and I if we
can reach like I said, that one out of 10 that could be a
million people who say, after they're done listening to you or
to a lesser extent, me they go away from the TV, they leave the
room, they let everybody else in there.
Go off under there. Q and on theories but they leave
the room and they go. Wow!
That made a lot of sense. Michael.
Here's the latest number since June 1st 200,000 unvaccinated
Americans have needlessly lost their lives to covid-19
thousand. Two hundred thousand.
This is not small potatoes and this anti-science aggression.
I've now said, is maybe the leading killer of, you know, of
young adults in the United States young and Adults in the
United States up there with maybe fentanyl.
I mean, that's what we're talking about.
So this is not an academic discussion.
I mean, we're losing 1000 people. 1000 unvaccinated people
every day to covid-19, maybe more and, and that's why it's so
essential to do it. It's it's, you know, I feel is a
physician scientist and, you know, God gave me great skills,
she was really nice to me. She gave me a physician
scientist and and I feel I have to give back and part of that,
giving back is not only to do the science, but the combat the
empty side. Well, and also on that if you
disagree with us, say, so but people like I'll just say me
friends of mine we don't want. And if anybody's listening who,
you know, you're on the other side of the political fence, we
want you to live. We don't want you to die.
We don't want. I don't want to hear 200,000.
There was that story in the New York Times last week.
About the red States, just thousands and thousands of
people believing Trump and yet, they're not even believing Trump
who this week on television. With Bill O'Reilly both
admitted. They've been they've gotten
their booster shot, they're fully vaccinated.
And yet the people following them still aren't getting
vaccinated fact. I think Trump got booed a little
bit wooed, that's how that's how deep in the rabbit hole they are
and and you know and then I get accused of politicizing vaccines
and said you know I'm not pulling Hassan.
So we're trying to deem politicize it aside.
Yes, I'm trying to basically say to the far right groups or
conservative groups that, you know, an anti-science is not
your fight, don't don't, you don't need to adopt this.
There's, you know, if you if you want to do a all the Nutty stuff
that's your business, that's not my Lane.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to go into that lane but at
least uncouple it from the empty science at don't unnecessarily
needlessly. What advice?
Because we're talking here. Just a day before.
Christmas Eve, people are going to be with family.
There are family members who are not vaccinated, they won't get
vaccinated, they don't believe in any of this.
They either they believe some conspiracy theory or whatever
and and they're desperate. And before my Thanksgiving
episode, I had this discussion, I let people like call or write
in what's the main question you have to try to help families?
Members and their so. And I heard back from them after
Thanksgiving and they're so defeated by this.
But if you come across anything that seems to work the advice,
you could give people listening to this who are going to be with
unvaccinated family members, which by the way, my personal
advice. And I'm not a doctor, I would
not be around any unvaccinated family members.
Tell them you love them. Tell them we look forward to
this thing being over sometime. But you can't be in my house.
You can't be around my kids. You can't be.
I mean, I think this is a position.
A lot of people have taken now and I think it's it's sadly
broken up some families. I think I think the message you
know for this this holiday season is this is like no other
covid-19. Variant we've seen.
I mean, if you look at the number of cases versus day
curves, going up in New York City or Washington.
DC. It's a vertical slope.
This is Is so true, a a decibel that straight up its I'd like
nothing I've ever seen. So you know, if you're around
unvaccinated individuals or if you're even around harshly,
vaccinated individuals, there's a high likelihood, their
transmission, transmitting covid.
So, essentially what you should do is when you talk to a family
member, who's not vaccinated or partially vaccinated, you should
be interacting with them as though.
You should assume that. They're shedding their coming
into your house shedding. And covid-19 virus and can see
if and then see if you're willing to put up with that
risk. Or would you?
No, I mean, I, I mean, even, you know, my mother-in-law who, you
know, she's in her 80s, she's fully vaccinated and boosted
there's enough Break, Even because of Omicron and it's
Spike spike Gene, Escape, mutations.
I felt it was too much of a risk of forgetting breakthrough.
Covid Neva Kno, would likely be mild.
I'd want to take that risk. So I disinvite her.
So which is sad because we had a nice meal.
I plan on going to show her some museums here.
Houston's great restaurants but you know, it wasn't worth it,
right? As opposed to my oldest
daughter. Yeah.
Okay. Left and my oldest son come, so
I think families all over the country have to make those kinds
of measured decisions. And that's why I think it's
important not to for the CDC, not to give simple directives or
information because you can't process it to make informed
decisions, right then. So maybe that discussion with
them should happen over the phone.
Not Tim person in your house. This what people are telling me
now in the last again, 24 hours, although it's not as dangerous
as Delta. I'm fully vaccinated, nothing
will happen to me and I said, well, that's not true.
We've seen the of these breakthrough cases and I said, I
know, I know of at least two people who got covid but mild
symptoms. No no, nothing big.
And one of them is our one of our, our people, on our work
with me and my crew for my films.
And he he got it last February so I don't know what is that,
almost 11 months ago, didn't have it, bad got over it to this
day, he cannot taste or smell. I'm convinced that now because I
have fully vaccinated plus a flu shot that that I'm probably
going to be okay. My mask is always on whenever
I'm around, anybody do masks double mass in 95 and I put a
cloth mask over that. But I don't want to get the Long
Haul. I don't want these symptoms.
I have another person, I know that the hair her hair fell out,
I mean there's all these things that we don't know how long, he
doesn't know how long he won't be able to taste or smell.
Well, this was the argument that I had with a number of my
scientific colleagues who felt that we only vaccinate to
prevent hospitalizations and deaths.
And I said, well, of course we vaccinated to prevent
hospitalizations and deaths but I'm also getting boosted because
I don't want to get covid. I don't want to have Gray
matter, brain degeneration on MRI.
I don't want to have a cat, a brain image study that looks
like somebody 20 years older than I am and and we continually
underestimate the impact of lung covid.
In fact, I have we have a manuscript under review or about
to be submitted. That's looking exactly that why
we also need to vaccinate against lung covid it's just
like when I got my shingles vaccine you know Ching Couric's,
I didn't get it because I thought I was going to die
Jingles. I Because I don't want to get
shanked. Yes.
And and, and that's true of a lot of adult vaccine.
So I don't know why we hold this other standard.
Maybe I'm wrong to say this, but I would take them if I got covid
in the same mild version of it, but it's still ended up in the
hospital for a few days. I sort of would rather that if
it meant that that, you know, whatever the medicine is.
Now the cocktail of pills or whatever that that would get me
out of covid quickly. I'd rather that then not be able
to taste Taste or smell for the next year that, that that is,
that's why I'm. So when people say, oh this on
the crying and says, don't worry, it's just if you get it's
not bad. Well yeah, that may be true for.
Like it may just feel like the flu for a few days but how would
you, how would you like your hair to follow?
How would you like to not smell or taste?
How would you like to need 12 hours of sleep?
Yeah, and and also we've I think the narrative that I think the
narrative that it's mild illness, may not hold because
again, Most of that are based on descriptions of people who are
likely had code Omicron re-infections because their own
work on Wave. It was, you know, dovetailed
from their Delta wave in the United States, is different and
the north. You did not have a big Delta
wave, like we did in the South. So I think it's going to behave
differently. I think hospitalizations are
going to go up in the north northern hospitals.
Were already seen that starting to happen in New York.
York and Washington, but we have another problem.
Michael in the problem is this that that you're going to have
all these health care workers with with breakthrough, covid,
even who've gotten their booster, not enough for them to
be sick in the hospital. But enough in them to be at home
with covid and that's going to knock out a substantial
proportion of the healthcare Workforce.
So I think the one-two punch that I see with Omicron is one,
it's not as mild as people are making out.
You're going to among the Max and David, you're going to still
see them pile and the hospital's a nice to use.
And you're just nobody could going to be around to take care
of them because they're going to be sick at all.
And that's what I was looking for for the president to address
that how to manage keeping people in the healthcare
Workforce. So since nobody was coming up
with ideas, I put an out there which nobody seems to lie like I
saw it and I'd like you to repeat it again because you
know, I think, you know, Biden took office.
He still out even in president for a year.
Not now, so you see took office with the end of January, and I
think he's done some incredible things, but, but when I, but his
is to talks this week, I'm like, no, no, no, this is, you need
to, we need the full force of our government, getting trying
to, get to the, some place of what we used to call, heard
immunity. But, you know, I think if we
just get to 80 or 85% of vaccinated, well, I think, you
know, and I agree. I do you know, compared to Of
course compared to what we had, you know, Biden is thousand
times better but he has done a good job.
I think is best you can in terms of you know getting the national
getting a national response out. They're not leading it giving it
to the states and making certain anybody wants to get vaccinated
get vaccinated. I think the last couple of weeks
that we've not heard him frankly address but the weak links in
this next Omicron wave. So weekly number one, the one I
just mentioned is that Health Care Providers being knocked out
with the suggestion I made was offered them.
A second booster, a fourth year as a nation because that's the
climbing rapidly and potentially that fourth immunization could
bump up your virus. Neutralizing antibodies, it'll
go down pretty quickly but it'll at it'll get you through this
wave. So you can take care of patients
in the hospital and it was interesting after I put that out
the Israeli government made that announcement, they're doing that
actually the two things they They did they made the same
recommendation for the healthcare providers, but they
also recommended for those over 60, which I also support, even
though it's not going to last long, it will get you through
this wave. But there's a couple of other
things by halves, which is, you know, the we're not going to
have axial. Ovid that new Pfizer drug was
looking pretty good in abundance for this for this wave and I'm
not sure why, why not why? You know, once it was pretty
clear. And that the drug look really
good and visor was going to apply for emergency use
authorization. Why?
You know, we didn't use the full powers of the federal government
issues. A to invoke the Prudential
defense production act and make it right out.
I mean, that's no small molecule drugs.
Generally are not as complicated to me, quick vaccine, so that we
should have done it. Of course, testing is still is
still a tragedy, right? I mean, you mean there's no
reason to years into this epidemic.
Make, we have to have line circling around the block or
waiting three hours to get freaking test.
Your should be a home kit in everybody's house who wanted her
to pay a couple of bucks for it. So what's the answer to that
question? Why why it why it should be so
easy to be tested by this point? You know, why isn't that
happening? And, you know, if you were
there, if you had an office down the hall in the West Wing, what
what would You be calling people in to talk to them about and
telling them what what we need to do.
And we need to do it now, not the middle or end of January or
in the case of the Pfizer drug. I heard I heard this morning
that may not be full blast available for everybody till
spring maybe beginning of Summer that's just crazy.
That's crazy, that's absolutely crazy.
So, you know, part of it, of course, is and I think I said
this on MSNBC this morning, the difference between the UK and
Israel is they have a health system, we have something called
Amazon Farm, I mean we don't have we don't have any health
infrastructure and by the way. Dr. Ho desiderata.
Hold, this is laughing at that. The fact that the rest most
other democracies, industrialized countries, have a
real Health Care System where you don't have to beg Amazon
somehow to get to send you something, you're only laughing
at that so that you don't cry on my show.
Is that correct? Okay.
I know exactly right now it's a horrible trip.
I mean it's and and that's what covid is done.
This whole Tim Endemic here in the US, it's exposed every
single weakness that we have and that's all we have is weakness.
I mean, it's, you know, it's all about.
Well, you've done a whole documentaries on this.
I mean, you know, it's Dandy documentaries.
I mean, you know, better than anybody and, and having a
pandemic just just brings all that to lay, right?
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what to say sometimes because I, I've
been covering this particular issue there.
Health Care System, since my had a television show on NBC called
TV Nation back in 1993, 94, 95, and we did this, we did this
episode called the healthcare Olympics where we sent Crews
camera Crews, to the emergency room, one, emergency room in
Fort Lauderdale one in in Toronto, Canada and then one in
Havana Cuba. And we waited for like a broken
arm or broken leg to come in and then we set the clock going and
we followed them like it was a Olympics race to see who got the
right care and how much did it cost and it was so funny at the
time. This is back in the 90s.
So Cuba, one Cuban Canada, kind of tied except the in Canada,
they charge the guy $10 for the crutches to leave with his
broken leg and Cuba. They just gave him the crutches.
So, Cuba one and I got a call from My one of the people that
do standards and practices that NBC and she said, Cuba can't
win. I said what do you mean they won
with? This is all.
This is documentary. We didn't fix this.
Yeah but yeah but cubic can't win.
Now you can say Canada one. That's okay.
Yeah but Canada didn't win. Anyways this is I'm sorry to
tell that story but I'm just this is that's nice that's 1994
and and then in our movie sicko and 2007 So I'm at I've been you
know, climbing the walls here basically of trying to just sit
and just the fact that this simple idea, this common-sense
idea about what are we going to do?
When our health care workers? This year aren't going to be
able to help the people coming in there and and you say that
and then the is not. Our government doesn't take heed
the Israeli government. I mean, for first of all, if you
do have the ear of the Israeli government, I've wanted to other
things I'd love to I know I don't I don't necessarily have
the year when I was gonna quit. Maybe it's coincidental that it
came out after that. Yeah, well yeah.
I mean it's I mean, these are, this is and all of this is just
common sense, you know? Let's, let's figure this out.
And instead, there's so much worried about how its message in
the office. There's a lot of emphasis on
Optics and, and I'm quite concerned and the consequences.
Remember, we've got 800,000 Americans have lost their lives.
We're going to, we're going to reach.
Each the million point by q1 next year now because not only
the messed up Healthcare System Health System but also the
Defiance Defiance around vaccine and the right-wing aggression
that we're getting from u.s. members of Congress and the
conservativism I have not had covid or at least I don't think
I have had it. Am I am I do.
I have a bull's-eye. Ami is on the crown looking for
me because it needs hosts. And I'm, I'm not a bee Airbnb.
You know, for this virus so hit. When did you get your third?
And he's in September, it's form for months.
Generals. So you are a risk.
So you are a risk for breakthrough covid.
Exactly how much that are can get another booster or another
shot right now, can I? Well, that's why I think that's
why I think we need to modify things to get a fourth
immunization. So what the numbers coming out
of Imperial College London. London based on virus
neutralizing, antibody levels. And people would say, well,
there's also T cells involved, and of course, that's true as
well. But the modeling they would say.
Is if you're say three, four months out of your third
immunization, your protection against symptomatic, covid from
that boosters by 30 to 45 seconds.
Left for me now. No, what do I do?
I'm not, it's not illegal. That's another issue somewhere
in a vaccines. Or not, or not as are not as
durable. Durable that seems in holding up
against protection, which is why we always worked on a new
technology. So I would, I would say it would
stay in the house as what year advice would be for right now,
or I think you should get a fourth immunization but we don't
have the infrastructure to allow the, that's the problem.
So, you think at that, how many months after the booster we call
the booster shot? How many months after that
should we be thinking of giving people fourth shot?
I think three four months so I'm right there on the cusp of that
right now. Yeah, but again it's based on
limited data limited modeling and this is part of the problem
that we've had with Cece and and then I H and every and all the
other federal agencies is they are not anticipatory enough,
they have to it has to be a published paper through peer
review and everything else before they act on.
It and I understand that's worked in the past.
But when you're dealing with this fast, moving freight train
like Omicron, sometimes you have to make decisions on.
How do you feel about the preventative things that people
can do with their immune system in terms of zinc or vitamin D or
what's the other one? I heard of a CoQ10 something.
I mean I take vitamin D. Prepend Amigos, vitamin D.
Yeah I think it maybe gives you some incremental benefit but
it's still no substitute for arms control.
I want to just hear in our last part of this, get into something
that you have. You bring this up constantly and
you know, and I understand because people are worried about
themselves when it gets close. When you have family members
who've had covid-19 have had family members and friends, who
died? And I, and I don't know, I can
say that most people can name, people, they know that if died,
I can certainly, I'm sure you can too, but eight hundred
thousand dead. You might know one or two of
them and it's very sad. And you have though been trying
to get us to think a little bigger and a little wider.
When it comes to the world, the planet that we live on because
and I've heard you say this and I, and if this doesn't get
picked up and it must frustrate you.
Because because, and I say to people look at, we've got to get
the world vaccinated here, you know, it can't just be us
because and I try to appeal to their selfishness, like, you
know, that This, the first variant came possibly through
China, but then through Italy in the UK then Delta, yes.
Well, no then Alpha and Alpha rose out of an unvaccinated
population in the United Kingdom and when he drank there and that
was more transmissible than the original Mini also in India
rate. And and we think on the crown is
right? But even before, even before
Delta Mother Nature says, hey, I'm going to throw you a curve.
Although every few months and the curveball is going to look
like this, I'm going to give you a new variant, that's more
transmissible than the last one and it's going to arise out of
large unvaccinated. Populations, you motherfuckers
better vaccinate. So the first Alpha variant arose
out of Southern England and in 2020, then Delta arose out of an
unvaccinated population of Indian 2021.
And so I said well what what do people think?
Going to happen if we love the entire continent of Africa to
remain on vaccinated Mother Nature.
Just told us what she's going to do and that she's done it, you
know, with Omicron and that was entirely self-inflicted.
We could have prevented the emergence of our kind of had, we
vaccinated the African continent and that's why, you know, if I
sound agitated or irritated or whatever word, you want to use
this because John Berman on CNN. What's called me a Cassandra?
I had to look up that, you know, faded to predict the future but
faded to have no one listened to me.
So right, and that's exactly what happened.
So that's why we've been pushing so hard to say, you know, the
MRA technology is an interesting technology and this is the end
of ours technology, but we have a brand-new.
Technology is any engineer will tell you.
It takes time to learn how to go from 0 to 9 billion.
I don't know if it doesn't matter if it's mRNA or
adenovirus or Newfangled widgets, there's that learning
curve. We've got to technology that we
use deliberately because we make vaccines for the poor.
We make vaccines for parasitic disease.
We meaning your we are surrounded by our Texas
Children's Center for vaccine development.
That's all we do. We just make low-cost vaccines
that could be made locally and I said we need to have a vaccine
like that if we're going to quickly vaccinate the world and
I just could not get anybody's attention.
So finally, we raised money on our own and we have to be here
in Texas and New York. And now we have a recombinant
protein vaccine that we've license with no patent, no,
strings attached to India. Indonesia Bangladesh, Botswana
the one in India is furthest along its, that's produced by an
amazing vaccine company. Called Your privately owned
called biologically. They're not.
They've now made 140 million doses.
Isis, and they have a plan to make 300 million by next year.
The Indian government is done in advance purchase of 300 million.
They can make a billion Doses. And and now, we're just waiting
for the green light from the Indian Regulators for a bird's
useless thing, which should be hoping before the end of the
year, maybe by next week and then and then follow
accordingly. And that's what we need.
We need a vaccine that could and it's it's the same technology
used to make. Recombinant, hepatitis B vaccine
which has been in use for four decades.
People trusted parents have been giving it to their kids for four
decades. So we also had the emergency
useless thing is for adults but we have clinical trials.
Now for kids that's what we need.
We need to get all the yes Global vaccines.
But and but the but the frustration that I've had for
the last two years has no help from the US government not even
any intellectual curiosity about and no help from the G7
countries. Entries.
And so it was, you know, very frustrating to have to go out
and raise the money privately, we did it.
But it's, you know, I often think if we had gotten a
fraction of the support, the Moderne got, we could have,
could potentially have the world vaccinated.
Well, that's a sad thought right there.
I just so you're saying you don't you develop this vaccine
but but you don't have a patent for it.
You're not you're not So who's getting rich off this?
That's right. We put it.
We put everything out in the public.
Domain is put it out there. Well, how do you put it?
Remember, remember, Jerry Rubin Steve this book, it's like
Steve. I'll steal this Max.
You want people just to take it, you've developed it.
It's yours and and it I assume it doesn't cost much to make.
Let's rethink. Its least expensive of all the
covid. Vaccines.
What we do to help, the we actually will provide them, the
production cell bank, and we actually help in the code
development at her own expense. That's what we plan. 34 will
will help these companies that the biologically and India
biopharma in Indonesia summer private summer public and septon
Bangladesh and Immunity biome Botswana will help them with
develop the assays co-develop will will you know, build help
and training, whatever it takes because it seems like dr.
Out is if we don't do this, the next one will be from some other
country the first I'm you hear about it, you'll go oh that's in
you know, that's in Pakistan. Well what the heck me?
What if it turned out Mike I mean maybe we'll get a little
bit lucky and Omicron will in turn out to be less severe than
Delta by. I'm still not confident about
that but what if the next one is like Omicron but much more
severe? What happens that?
And, and so I think we're just playing with fire, and we've got
to take this very next one is more severe.
We're not ready for that, are we?
But we're not ready for this one.
That's that's for sure. So so what can you leave us with
in terms of and I don't want any hope IAM here, we want the truth
but I think the people listen to my podcast, the fact that we
could have hundreds of thousands of people who finish listening
to us and say to themselves, I want to do something.
I want to whatever that something is.
We need to make this happen. We just don't want to sit around
and and we don't want to be just vaccinating ourselves because we
need the whole world. Protected with this.
So what what is it that we can do?
We the citizens we the civilians out here.
I think we all know what we need to do for ourselves, you just
told me. I'm I need the fourth booster
now, so you know I'll I'll just go stand outside one of the
hospitals here with with as well and I want to be careful to I
mean you're not that I don't want to say that's a medical
record, I understand because you know, I don't know what that
because I haven't seen the data that Israel.
Had to make the recommendation for 60 and older.
I feel comfortable enough for the healthcare recommendation,
to the federal government. But I don't know what that'll
Israel's actually looking at for the, the 60 and older.
But, but for the, but for the world, you know, the by the
administration, the White House just put on Twitter today.
Maybe they made an actual press announcement that they've now up
their donation to 300. In doses.
And they're very proud of them. They say the US government is
donating more doses than anybody else in the world and again, 300
million. I don't want to call it a drop
in the bucket because it's not, it's something but it's not nine
billion. And And if every all the stars
aligned our Texas, Children's Hospital Center for vaccine
development, will have matched the US government in terms of
what it does. And I'm not saying that to say
how great we are, I'm saying it's it's a problem that it Goes
to show you. If a small Research Institute in
Texas, can do that, imagine what the US government could really
do, if it took that leadership. So I think that's one is get
getting the US government. Understand that this is a matter
of national security to get the world vaccinated and and of
course if you're willing to support us we have a have a
donation page, the pin, the top of my Twitter or where you can
contact me. I'm going to put the The link to
that here on my podcast site so people can find it and and and
donate. What else can people do though
besides supporting your work, what can the average person do
as they finish listening to this podcast?
What can, what can they do today tomorrow after Christmas ever
before New Year's? It just seems like somebody
needs to? Well, first of all, first of
all, take care of your family, which means, which means
vaccinate vaccinate vaccinate by that, I mean, get your Our
immunization. If you've not got make it your
booster, if you've not gotten it because two doses of this
vaccine is not doing very much for symptomatic illness.
Second, if you've been infected and recovered, that's not going
to cut it because we're seeing a lot of Omicron reinfection.
So the first death we had in Houston from Omicron with
someone who is infected and recovered and chose not to get
vaccinated. So vaccinate on top of that,
that's going to be really key and vaccinate your kids.
So, so right now in each, I'll do five and up and get
vaccinated and we're not doing a good job, vaccinating their
kids. And and then once you've looked
out for yourselves and your family and your loved ones, you
know, usual love talking to your car, your member of
representative in Congress to push the United States, to work
harder to vaccinate the world and support you can give up.
So I guess that. Yeah, most of our members of
Congress are home. This week and next week in their
districts and that is a good idea to.
They all have local offices call, right.
Go there safely if you can but that needs to that needs to be
done. Well, thank you for continuing
to inform us about what's happening and thank you for the
work. You do creating these vaccines
for people around the world. And not patenting it and not
getting rich off it. It's, you know, any young people
if you haven't heard the story of Jonas Salk and what he did
with the polio vaccine and and making it available to anybody
around the world who wanted to use it.
This is what dr. Hood says in his his team are
doing right now so thank you for that.
Thanks so much Michael and you know, thanks for your giving me
a voice and being such a great Advocate and friend and
colleague, I really value. So much, appreciate you and your
team and you're just doing such extraordinary work.
You have my undying at, thank you for that.
We all want to come out on the other side of this, okay alive.
And and maybe it's better people and treat ourselves and our
fellow citizens and the people on this planet better.
So I appreciate you being a leader in that and I encourage
everybody. Listening, follow the advice
here, get vaccinated. If you're not get the booster.
If you haven't gotten it, make sure your Whole family, and your
friends encourage them to do this.
You love them. You want them to live.
You don't want them to not be able to taste or smell anything
for the next year that, you know, yes sure that you may
live, but you want to live, like live and, and so, all of that.
Thank you very much, dr. Peter hotez, and all the people
there with your operation there, in Houston, doing so much good
work. It's much appreciated, and I
hope you have a good Christmas or holiday, or whatever, here
with your family in the next few days.
Thanks so much Michael, and I appreciate it and I'm sure we'll
be talking again. It's not like this problem is
just going to be a No-No. We'll stay on top.
We're all in this together and we'll stay on top of this and do
what you have to do. Try to get five hours, sleep a
night if you can and but keep informing, keep going on those
networks. And letting people know the
truth. And And don't be afraid to say
the things that we don't want to hear or the government doesn't
want to hear. We write you know this distance
a regular as a doctor. If you've if you've done tests
on somebody and they come in they say well how did I do with
the MRI or the tests or whatever?
You're not saying to yourself. Now I want them to go out with a
smile. So get it.
I'm going to tell them. Yeah yeah and and and it doesn't
help doesn't help the blood destruction of all I do is say
what a great job. They're doing if there's no
every Administration, no one's perfect, right?
Everyone's going to have have failings and so there's a few
pieces that need. Yes.
And they have to and I know people in the administration,
listen to this podcast and they do have to fix it or not, not
getting it. No one's getting a pass on this.
And by the way, I'm in touch with that.
I mean, it's not like, I'm in touch with them.
I I am and and I text them and they listened and and they're
super simple. Some really smart people.
You know, heading are National covid response.
I think they're part of the problem is, they're trying to
manage the very treacherous political landscape is so much
extremism of the other side. And I think they let that
sometimes affect their messaging and in a Waters, it down or a
comes out as baby talk and I think that's not good.
And, and they, you know, look, we know this about them that
they can admit a mistake, or they can say, you know what, we
need to up this, we need to reverse, we have the pivot, they
two weeks ago, they said, if you have student loans, you got
Start repaying them in January and they heard from the American
public. Don't do that to us during this
pandemic. And then, and then last night
The by demonstration said, you know what, you don't have to
start paying him back in January.
We'll revisit this in May, that's what we need.
That is the kind of leadership where you can say, okay, people
that okay that we, you know, what we can do better.
Yeah, that's that's right. Not be so dogmatic.
And that happened with testing rights.
Remember Jen psaki a couple of weeks ago said, well, what do
you want me to do? Is what do you want us to do?
Give a home kit to every American and I was like, hell
yeah, that's exactly what watch, I love what you have.
I saw that and they bubble Coughing her head, you know,
hey, what do you want? What's gonna give a home kit to
everybody and then she wants a went back, and everybody who's
watching the press conference said, Jen has a great idea.
And then two weeks later it's there, the root of the wheels
are rolling to do something like that, which is, which is the
sign of, you know, a good Administration, right?
You make mid-course adjustments. It's a sign of good, business
management practice, no matter what, and assign that, that we
have some smart people in charge now.
So, All right. Thank you be well, and stay with
us. We'll have you back on again and
we'll be looking for you on TV. And just everybody, listen to
this. Also, if you can donate to what
they're doing down there to get this, these vaccines out to the
third world and it's all we have to.
We have to be operating on all tracks here and that's one of
them. So, thank you very much dr.
Peter hotez for coming back and being here in Rumble Michael.
Thank you again. All right, take care in closing.
I just want to thank everybody for another year here of Rumble
for participating in this for sending me your thoughts or
ideas. It's going to see your thoughts
and prayers. It's kind of a hopeless
Endeavor, but but thank you for that.
If you are thinking, good thoughts about us and everybody
else who's trying to do some work to get this country on
track to, to get the was passed that we need to pass.
It's been a rough month here, trying to move forward.
We'll talk about that at the beginning of the coming year
here, but for right now I just would be happy if you're happy
and or as happy as one can be. During this time to be with your
friends and your family to be with your own self.
It's a great time right now. If you are alone to Writing.
Start your own podcast. Think about this.
It's if all of us were doing something anything other than
just sitting around and being depressed.
This is this is how we're going to make it.
We have no other choice, right? So so be good to yourself and my
thanks to our executive producer here bezel Hamden, our editor
and sound engineer, Nick quas, our jack of all trades and Now
official super spreader here in rumbled.
Donald Bornstein and everyone who has helped us to get Rumble
with Michael Moore on the air and stay on the air and have
watched it grow to now over 31 million downloads of this
podcast since we started. So get your shots.
Please, please. Please do.
This, is it easy to line one up right now?
No, it's not. But that's why you have to be
persistent. It's so important.
I need you healthy and Alive. All of us do.
This country needs you. So be well.
Look forward to a brighter 2022. We are going to come out of
this. Let's come out of it as I said
earlier, as better people. To live in a better world that I
know we have the potential to do that but we have to face the
facts of what we are being confronted with right now.
Thanks everybody. Merry Christmas.
Happy New Year. Happy Kwanzaa Happy Boxing Day.
Don't go burning down any Christmas trees outside of Fox
News. Come on, you know, they have a
right to have put up their fake tree.
I love to put, I love the fact that the tree that burned was a
fake tree. Not a real Christmas tree, they
gotta in front of fake news, they have the fake tree so leave
it up. Don't touch it.
Don't, it's perfect, it's perfect.
All right everybody, I'll take care of me.
Well, love you all talk soon. Next year.
Someday soon, we all will be together until then we'll have
to muddle through somehow.