1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:30,700 I sure am. I sure. 2 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,800 Hello everyone. This is Rumble with Michael 3 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,200 Moore and I'm like, more hope all of you are doing. 4 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Well, didn't get much play yesterday, but there was a story 5 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,800 in the news about Pope Francis. He had just returned from a 6 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,400 week-long, visit to Canada, which we're going to get into 7 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,100 here in a minute and he was in a wheelchair the entire time. 8 00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:57,400 He was there. And when he got back to Rome 9 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,200 mentioned to somebody in the press that he was pretty drawn. 10 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,099 On out and exhausted and not feeling well. 11 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,400 And perhaps he would resign sometime in the near future or 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,300 future or whatever. And of course, you know, I first 13 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:15,600 thought when I heard that was. Geez, that's really not a good 14 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,500 idea if you can hold out because the next Pope probably will not 15 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,000 think the same way you think and do the things that you've done. 16 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:30,500 I am fish Ali recovering Catholic baptized and raised in 17 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:33,400 the Catholic Church went to Catholic schools went to the 18 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,600 Seminary and High School in the hopes that that time of being a 19 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,500 priest. I was young and I actually got 20 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:46,700 to meet Pope Francis about four years ago in the fall of 2018, 21 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:51,100 and it was quite a wonderful moment that I had with him. 22 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:59,100 We were all in Rome for the here of my film Fahrenheit, 11 9 and 23 00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:04,300 I'd wanted to meet him for some time and one of the people in my 24 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:08,900 crew contacted the Vatican and said Michael Moore would like to 25 00:02:08,908 --> 00:02:14,400 meet the pope and then somebody got on the line and said Yeah, 26 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:18,700 that'd be great. And so I don't know the next day 27 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:21,800 or two. There we weren't Vatican Square 28 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,700 for his weekly public audience that he does out on the steps of 29 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,800 st. Peter's, Basilica gives a little 30 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,300 sermon and then it goes down to blast the sick and others in 31 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:39,100 need of of his help. And after all that's over, 32 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,600 there's a small group of people that get to speak with him. 33 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,300 Eventually. And on that day, I was one of 34 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:53,100 them as was Martin Luther King's Daughter, the new ambassador to 35 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:56,700 Mexico. The Vatican and seems like there 36 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:58,400 were one or two others there. I can't remember. 37 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,800 What my sister Veronica was with me, and so when it came my time 38 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:11,100 and he sees me, he gets, he gets all happy and grabs my hand and 39 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:15,400 shakes it and clasps it. Very Hard and immediately wants 40 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,900 to start talking to me about my films that he's seen, which I'm 41 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:24,100 like, I'm thinking Pope's, don't watch my movies, but he had and 42 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:26,500 he went into this about my films. 43 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:29,800 And then he says to me, why aren't you making more of them? 44 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,800 And I'm like, wow, you know, he's my films, they take a while 45 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,200 to make, they don't have a script documentaries. 46 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Nonfiction, he says, you need to make more films and you need to 47 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,900 make them now, I was being scolded, essentially had Pope 48 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,200 for not working hard enough and I said, no, no, I'm listen, I've 49 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,500 always making a film. And yes, there will be one soon. 50 00:03:56,500 --> 00:04:00,200 And of course, you know, this is three or four years ago and the 51 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,700 pan Mike here tonight, held everything up. 52 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:06,900 And you know, I'm back at work now but but I was happy that he 53 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,400 that he cared enough to issue a Papal, decree that I need to 54 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,100 make more movies. And I said to him, I said I 55 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:15,500 would love to ask you a question. 56 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Any little CC says I said, do you think capitalism is a sin? 57 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:29,200 Is it evil at a few people get wealthy off the many who don't. 58 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,700 He says the SEC says, this is a sin because I think Pope John 59 00:04:34,700 --> 00:04:37,800 Paul. The second is predecessor of his 60 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,800 head made sort of the same statement more in the context of 61 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,400 there were these two evils referring to the old Soviet 62 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Union and what they called communism. 63 00:04:50,900 --> 00:04:55,100 But also that capitalism. And so, Pope Francis says to me, 64 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:57,800 says, greed, its greed, is what it is. 65 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:04,100 And it is a sin. I said, well, I'm really happy 66 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:08,600 to hear you say that. And then he made a couple of 67 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,000 other comments about what we need to do to make things more 68 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,300 Equitable in this world. And then just as we were in his 69 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:22,800 handlers which - get him away from me and I said, just one 70 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,600 more one more thing, don't forget women women in the church 71 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,400 are not equal as they are not in many societies and countries, 72 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,100 and I think this should be a real top priority. 73 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:39,000 And he says, yes, you are right women. 74 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,300 We must do this. And off off, he went He handed 75 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:47,600 one of his handlers, a rosary that he gave to me. 76 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:52,500 My sister was taking pictures of this post one or two of them 77 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:55,200 here on this on the sub stack of this podcast. 78 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,100 But I want to talk about his trip to Canada and I want to 79 00:05:59,108 --> 00:06:02,700 talk about the treatment of the indigenous people of both Canada 80 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:05,100 and the United States your for a few minutes. 81 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:07,900 And what I learned last week about something in the Catholic 82 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:09,600 Church. I'd never heard of before. 83 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,900 So we'll get right to that. I just want to thank our 84 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:14,800 underwriter today Shopify. 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Pope Francis flew from the 107 00:08:04,907 --> 00:08:08,700 Vatican in Rome to Alberta Canada. 108 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,800 And he had met with leaders of the various indigenous peoples 109 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,300 of Canada either. I think earlier this year or 110 00:08:16,300 --> 00:08:20,700 last year at the Vatican, he invited them there, he wanted to 111 00:08:20,700 --> 00:08:24,500 apologize to them for the treatment by the Catholic Church 112 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:29,400 to the indigenous, people of Canada and all the horror that 113 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,400 the church cost in terms of these schools, Native children 114 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,299 were kidnapped essentially from their parents made to go to 115 00:08:36,299 --> 00:08:39,200 these schools. They were seriously, abused, or 116 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,799 assaulted thousands actually died. 117 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:49,600 While they were attending these so-called Indian schools and he 118 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,800 wanted to apologize to them in person and ask for their 119 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,700 forgiveness. And when they were there, they 120 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:00,900 suggested that maybe he come to Canada in person. 121 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,500 And say to the people, the indigenous people of Canada. 122 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,600 And he said yes and so last week, that's what he did, he 123 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:16,200 went to Canada and for about five or six days, he traveled 124 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:21,600 from Alberta, which is in the west all the way over to Quebec 125 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:26,000 in the East and up to the native peoples of the north, the Inuit 126 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,700 people. They have their own territory 127 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:33,300 called Nunavut. And so during these five or six 128 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:37,800 days last week, he went and visited all the places where 129 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,000 these Catholic schools were for the native peoples and issued 130 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,300 one apology after another. His people wheeled him into 131 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:50,700 various cemeteries of unmarked Graves where these dead children 132 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:54,200 were buried. It was very powerful, very 133 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,900 emotional, most of the Native Canadians. 134 00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:02,100 Also use that word here were appreciative and grateful for 135 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:06,300 the apology, but it really wasn't everything that they were 136 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:08,900 looking for. And we're not talking about 137 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:11,400 reparations, which is another whole subject, which both the 138 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,400 Canadians and people of this country, the Americans still 139 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,300 have never really fully and truly addressed, and we will 140 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:23,700 deal with that on another episode but For the purposes of 141 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:28,200 what I wanted to say today. This was essentially initiated 142 00:10:28,300 --> 00:10:31,200 by a letter I received on the day that the pope arrived in 143 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:37,000 Canada from a Canadian also. A Canadian who is a member of 144 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,000 and a descendant of the indigenous people of Canada and 145 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,000 her name is Buffy sainte-marie. Now, if you're my age or older 146 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,500 you remember her, as one of the early folk singers of the 60s 147 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:52,500 became very famous writing the song universe. 148 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Soldier and a number of other songs played first in Toronto. 149 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,800 But then came down to New York and became famous in the 150 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,200 Greenwich, Village along with Bob Dylan, and Joan Baez, and 151 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:09,000 Ramblin Jack Elliott, Johnny Cash and others folk singers of 152 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 that. This new era of Folk Music in 153 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,500 the early 60s and she's had a career that is still going 154 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:18,300 strong. She's 81 years old. 155 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:23,500 Now, she's released records in every decade since the 60s that 156 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:26,600 she was the first indigenous person to win an Oscar, an 157 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,700 Academy Award for writing the song up where we belong, that 158 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:33,800 was the title song Officer and a Gentleman. 159 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:40,200 So she's had quite a career on many levels beloved 160 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,200 well-respected and I'm just opening up my email on Monday 161 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,500 and here's an email from her. She writes. 162 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,300 Hi, Michael regarding the Pope in Canada. 163 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,700 The news channels are saying that indigenous people are 164 00:11:55,700 --> 00:12:01,200 calling for quote, an apology from Pope Francis that's 165 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,500 inaccurate. He has already apologized to us. 166 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,900 We're calling on the Pope in the Catholic church to overturn the 167 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:16,300 doctrine of Discovery. Rescind it, make it go away 168 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:20,000 forever. It is still the active document 169 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,200 referred to in us and Canadian courts. 170 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:29,100 Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg used it in 2005 to defeat the tribe in 171 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:34,400 New York state which she later said that she regretted she 172 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:40,300 continues from The doctrine of Discovery written in 1452 by 173 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:41,300 Pope. Nicholas. 174 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:46,800 The fifth. It says that explorers European, 175 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,600 explorers, who come upon inhabited lands. 176 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,600 Are instructed by the pope to quote, invade search out 177 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:04,900 capture, Vanquish and subdue, all pagans whatsoever and to 178 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:10,300 reduce their persons to Perpetual slavery. these 179 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:15,500 explorers must appropriate in other words, steel and give to 180 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:21,700 the pope and his successors, all of the inhabitants slaves, 181 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:29,000 kingdoms counties, dominions possessions, and goods and to 182 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,800 convert these pagans And I thought, what I was going to 183 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,500 read here convert them to Catholicism, it's not what it 184 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:38,700 said. The doctrine says and convert 185 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:44,600 them to his use and profit. Wow. 186 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:50,500 She goes on the doctrine of Discovery is still active in the 187 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:55,000 courts of colonized countries throughout the world, affecting 188 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,000 the daily life of most indigenous people everywhere 189 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:05,000 still today. I was like okay wait a minute 190 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,700 man, I grew up Catholic went to Catholic schools. 191 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,700 I'd never heard of the doctrine of Discovery from 1452 the. 192 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:18,900 So this is like what 40 years before Columbus issue by the 193 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:22,500 pope, to all those who are exploring new worlds throughout 194 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:26,600 the planet. And whenever they came upon any 195 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,300 of it, they were to seize it. In the name of the Catholic 196 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:36,500 Church, make an All of its inhabitants and to take all of 197 00:14:36,508 --> 00:14:40,100 its riches and possessions in any Goods that they have and 198 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:43,900 convert them to the Pope's use and profit. 199 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,200 Well you when you read something like this, I think the first 200 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,400 thing you want to think is okay dude. 201 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,400 You're talking about 1452 they must have gotten rid of this by 202 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,200 now. So I started to do some research 203 00:14:56,300 --> 00:15:01,400 and sure enough. It's still in existence this 204 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:07,700 papal Doctrine, still in existence, still the rule of law 205 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:14,600 as far as the Catholic Church goes and then used remarkably by 206 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,300 secular governments. Like the United States, they use 207 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:22,800 it and refer to it in the in the same way. 208 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:27,700 Remember the when the row v Wade decision was leaked two months, 209 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:31,400 early alito's. His draft of what they were 210 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,700 going to release. And in that draft, he couldn't 211 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:39,300 find anything to base a legal argument on taking women's 212 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:44,600 rights away. So he went back to the 1200s To 213 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:50,000 pull some kind of decree from some king or I was so crazy. 214 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,300 And it was so mocked when it was leaked that he thought to 215 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:59,300 himself, I better pull this this line out. 216 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:02,800 This makes me sound crazy. And so when they actual decision 217 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,600 to get rid of Roe v-- Wade happens. 218 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:09,500 It's not in the decision because he knew he knew I always love 219 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:11,700 it. When the crazy know that they're 220 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:15,200 crazy. So anyway, so in researching 221 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,000 this, we discovered that not only did this actually happen in 222 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,100 the 1400s, That it's still treated as an active document to 223 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:27,200 this day. I'm going to put a link on the 224 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,400 podcast page here. Story from the National 225 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,800 Geographic on the history of the doctrine of Discovery. 226 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:38,000 It's called how the centuries-old Catholic. 227 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,200 Decree encouraged colonization. Wow. 228 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:47,300 And you can read, there will be a link here to that, you can 229 00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:50,200 read the actual one of these doctrines for yourself. 230 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:54,500 There was one that we year after Columbus, discovered the 231 00:16:54,500 --> 00:17:01,400 Americas, Pope Alexander, the sixth issued updated, the decree 232 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:05,400 And I'll tell you read, one quote from the doctrine, the 233 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:11,700 Catholic doctrine of 1493, the pope wrote among other works, 234 00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:14,800 pleasing. The Divine majesty and close to 235 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,300 our heart. This indeed stands out the most, 236 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,500 that of elevating, the Catholic faith, and the Christian 237 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:28,300 religion, especially in these times as well as extending. 238 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,400 And spreading it everywhere. Securing the Salvation of Souls 239 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,000 and subduing, the barbarous Nations, and bringing them back 240 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:44,600 to the faith itself to the Pope's credit. 241 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,800 When he was in Canada, last week, he called this brand of 242 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Christianity evil and that the Catholic Church committed evil 243 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:56,300 acts. That's the word he used evil. 244 00:17:59,900 --> 00:18:04,800 all the damage and the pain and the destruction caused 245 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:10,700 throughout the world for hundreds of years because of 246 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Faith, because of this Catholic faith, That basically said they 247 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,700 were the one true people going to heaven and all the other 248 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:26,400 pagans than everybody else unless they joined up, we're 249 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,800 going to burn in hell and just so that they don't have to wait 250 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:35,700 till they die and burn in hell. We're going to make their lives, 251 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,400 utterly miserable in the meantime. 252 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:45,000 The indigenous people of Canada last week, we're hoping to hear 253 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,500 that the pope was going to make this doctrine of Discovery, null 254 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:55,500 and void and he did not. Now he did say and do many, many 255 00:18:55,500 --> 00:19:00,700 many good things last week and he said it before but it's 256 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:05,500 always this way and you known as much as I like this guy and love 257 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:09,400 the moment and will cherish it you know that I had with him a 258 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,600 couple of years ago. It's like you want them to go 259 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,600 all the way he starts to say these things, you know, crazy 260 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,400 things. That wonderful crazy I should 261 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,100 say things that he said, since he's been Pope that have 262 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,600 outraged, the Conservative Catholics like when he said that 263 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:34,600 atheists, go to heaven a place. By the way, they're not 264 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,900 interested in going to. But nonetheless, he said that, 265 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:42,700 the welcome male there was Open to atheists, he's trying to undo 266 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:48,500 a lot of the sort of cruel. And mean, spirited rules of the 267 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:53,400 Catholic Church toward people who happened to be homosexual, 268 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,600 who don't agree with the Catholic church or whatever, but 269 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,900 it's never really quite in all the way and you've seen this, 270 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:03,100 you know what I mean? And very disappointing. 271 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:10,200 Last week I said be in Juneau when the Supreme Court of this 272 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,500 country took the rights of women away from them, making them have 273 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:16,600 less less rights than the Lesser rights. 274 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,900 They already had in this country and instead of coming out and 275 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:25,600 just issuing a decree that a fertilized egg is not a human 276 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,400 being and that a fetus is not a human being. 277 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:37,900 He said some kind of whatever. Sounding supportive of the 278 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:43,000 Supreme Court decision. And what's awfully wrong about 279 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,600 this is that the Supreme Court essentially has now made it the 280 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,700 law of the land. That we have to follow Catholic 281 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:54,100 Doctrine. It's Catholic doctrine. 282 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:58,400 That says that the moment, a sperm fertilizes, an egg, that's 283 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:06,500 a human being with a soul. And that's not true. 284 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:14,000 And it's a made-up active convenience to continue, whether 285 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,900 it's the Catholic church or the patriarchy wherever it exists to 286 00:21:17,900 --> 00:21:22,700 control women in their lives. To keep men in power. 287 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,200 And the fact that that he couldn't say anything until the 288 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,900 truth about this was extremely disappointing. 289 00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:34,600 And what's interesting too is that just a couple of days ago 290 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,900 the pope said that he is a believer in the separation of 291 00:21:37,908 --> 00:21:41,700 church and state that the Catholic church and no religion 292 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:46,200 should impose their will as the will of a particular country. 293 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,700 Again very, very powerful to and to say this, right after our 294 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:57,600 Supreme Court did exactly that are Catholic Supreme Court did 295 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,900 exactly that. No free Society can be a society 296 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:07,200 that is ruled by the tenants of one religion. 297 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:13,100 Whether you're the United States, whether you're the 298 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:17,000 Church of England, whether your Israel, whatever it is, you 299 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,900 know, or any of the numerous Islamic States. 300 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:26,100 This is as the pope said the other day, it's just an immoral 301 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:31,500 action. But will return in other 302 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:36,100 episodes to this to this issue and how we're going to deal with 303 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:40,800 the destruction of Roe v-- Wade. I want to just I want to stay on 304 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,900 this. What I wanted to say here about 305 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:47,000 the native peoples of the United States and of Canada, and of 306 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,200 this particular doctrine of the Catholic Church. 307 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,100 Pope Francis, if you are listening to me right now or if 308 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:57,700 someone is listening for you and translating for you, you were 309 00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:01,600 you a present? Yourself to me as such a great 310 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,200 fan. You quoted you referenced things 311 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,600 in my movies. It was clear that you knew what 312 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,300 I was about and what I'm trying to say in these films and you 313 00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:20,400 even admonished me to make more of them, I have to ask you to 314 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,600 please at the very least, now that you've returned from Canada 315 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,700 and visiting indigenous peoples of various parts of Canada. 316 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:37,300 That you announce that this doctrine of Discovery from 1452 317 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:41,200 and an updated after that, updated sounds like such a 318 00:23:41,208 --> 00:23:47,000 polite word made worse that you say that, that the Catholic 319 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,400 Church no longer believes in this. 320 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:55,000 Please renounce this Doctrine. It's not only like a outdated. 321 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,300 It's immoral, it's a sin you said so it's wrong. 322 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:05,100 The way that the Catholic Church used religion and the way that 323 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,600 the government's that were primarily Catholic, used 324 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,900 religion to conquer the world to colonize, its people to enslave, 325 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:16,500 its people to kill, its people in the name of Jesus Christ. 326 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,800 There's nothing you better. You could do on your return 327 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,500 right now to Rome. Then to say that I'm the pope, 328 00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:31,200 you know, God talks through me and this Doctrine is over and 329 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,200 then add. Now we have to make reparations 330 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:38,700 for all the damage to hundreds of years that the Catholic 331 00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:43,200 church in Christianity has caused called the Archbishop of 332 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,200 Canterbury or whatever, whoever runs the Church of England, get 333 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000 them in on this too. Because The damage and 334 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,800 destruction that they did throughout the world Rivals, 335 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,500 much of what the Catholic Church did. 336 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,100 But let's send that Let's acknowledge what it is. 337 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:06,800 Let's make these reparations. And then come back if you can 338 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:11,900 and meet with the native peoples here in the United States and 339 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:15,300 helped lead the way. So that I and my fellow 340 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,800 Americans, we still have not done the right thing. 341 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,100 Native Americans along with the African Americans occupy, the 342 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:27,900 lowest rung on our socio-economic ladder. 343 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:34,500 They are still the most abused. And have the least Among Us. 344 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:42,300 And that has to change. And again, I know you said, when 345 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,400 you got back, it was a hard trip. 346 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,800 You're not. Well, you can't walk and that 347 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,700 maybe you'll quit soon. Don't quit. 348 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:53,800 Don't quit soon. There's a lot to be done. 349 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:58,400 You need to guide the forest. Birthing people here in this 350 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,400 country away. From their Insanity. 351 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:06,100 You need to say that women have a right to choose. 352 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:14,300 That a seed is a seed, and a stem is a stem, and a flower is 353 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:18,100 a flower. A seed is not a flower. 354 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,300 You need to say this very clearly when it comes to talking 355 00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:26,000 about human beings. You need to stand up for women. 356 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,000 I know it sounds like um I'm admonishing you now but you know 357 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,900 fair's fair here. I took the heart what you told 358 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:40,100 me and now I ask you to do the same as my friend. 359 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,400 As somebody who does admire you and who cares that you succeed? 360 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,400 Please be well. Please fix that. 361 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600 Which no other Pope is going to fix. 362 00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:04,500 Let's do the right thing here. Thank you for coming to North 363 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:08,600 America last week. Thank you for what you said and 364 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,700 did. But now let's go the final 10 365 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:15,100 yards and it's a big ten yards because it is a Catholic 366 00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:18,400 doctrine that still exists. That still says, it's okay to 367 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:25,500 take from those who have very little that says that there is a 368 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:32,000 still a right to enslave them. And to force them into 369 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,500 Christianity, come on, come on. I know you. 370 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,700 You and I held each other's hands for the longest period of 371 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:48,300 time that day. And we looked into each other's 372 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:52,500 eyes. With complete and burning 373 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:58,300 honesty. And you spoke to me the truth. 374 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:05,000 About capitalism. About the wealthy about the 375 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,300 poor. And it moved me in a profound 376 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,300 way. I asked you. 377 00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:21,100 To do this, for the native and Indigenous people. 378 00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:26,100 In our country, in Canada and throughout the world. 379 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:37,000 Bless you, and thank you. I think my producer Angel 380 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,000 embargoes for helping me and I think all of you who are 381 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,300 listening and participating in this podcast and in my 382 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,900 substitute B. Well this is my home or and this 383 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,200 is horrible. He's five foot. 384 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:57,100 Do any six feet for he fights with missiles and with spheres. 385 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:04,700 He's all 31 and he's only 17, he's been nicer. 386 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:12,800 Solder for a thousand years. He's a Catholic in do an 387 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:20,700 atheist, a Jane, a borders, and a Baptist and a jail and he 388 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:26,100 knows he should have killed and he knows he always will kill you 389 00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:29,600 for me, my friend and me for you. 390 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:37,300 And he's fighting for Canada. He's fighting for friends is 391 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:45,100 fighting for the USA and is fighting for the Russians and 392 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:50,200 he's fighting for Japan and he thinks will pour them into war 393 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:56,000 this way. And he's fighting Democracy is 394 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,500 fighting for the Reds. He says, explore the piece of 395 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:06,300 all. He is the one who must decide 396 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:11,000 who goes to live and who's gonna die, and he never sees the 397 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:17,000 writing on the walls. But why would Tim Howard Hitler? 398 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,800 Have condemned him at the house without him. 399 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:28,800 Caesar would have still more. He is the one who gives his body 400 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:34,300 as a weapon to the war, and without a mall is killing. 401 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:40,400 Can't go on. Here's the universal Soldier and 402 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,100 he really is the play. But as Waters, come from far 403 00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:52,400 away, no more, they come from him and you and me and brothers. 404 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,100 Can't you see? This is not the way we put an 405 00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:57,100 end to war. This is not the way we put an 406 00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,800 end to war.