1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Because I could not stop for death, he kindly stopped for me. 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:22,120 The carriage held but just ourselves, and immortality, and 3 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:34,240 immortality we slowly drove. He knew no haste. 4 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:47,000 And I I had put away my labor and my leisure too, for his 5 00:00:47,000 --> 00:01:00,040 civility. For his civility, we passed a 6 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:07,960 school where children played their lessons scarcely done. 7 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,840 We passed through fields of gazing green. 8 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:23,400 We passed the setting sun. We passed and the setting sun. 9 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,440 This is Michael Moore. This is my podcast. 10 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,920 The song was Natalie Merchant along with Susan McEwan and the 11 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Chanting House singing singing their riff on the Emily 12 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,040 Dickinson poem. Because I could not stop for 13 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:58,640 death, he kindly stopped for me. Sort of a mournful, soulful tune 14 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,920 to play today, appropriate for what we're going to do on this 15 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:12,440 episode of my podcast. For now, over three weeks, I, 16 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:18,000 like many of you, have felt deep despair. 17 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,920 I felt it actually for much longer than these three weeks. 18 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:33,720 I first visited Gaza almost 3039 years ago. 19 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,480 That's how long this little strip of land 3 to 5 miles wide, 20 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:47,920 about 25 miles long. One of the most God awful sights 21 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:51,680 imaginable. And when I first saw it, I never 22 00:02:51,680 --> 00:03:00,400 recovered from it. 39 years ago this has been with me and I went 23 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:08,520 back to Gaza. I wasn't prepared for what I saw 24 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:14,640 and it's been like this now for for me at least for what? 25 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,280 Almost 4 decades of being a witness and lucky me. 26 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,040 All I have to do is suffer through what I observe and see 27 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,240 and experience. But I don't have to be 28 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Palestinian and to wake up all these years later in the morning 29 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:42,680 of October 7th and to learn that there are over 1400 dead, 30 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,800 slaughtered Jewish brothers and sisters in the streets, in their 31 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:58,280 homes. I want to live in a world where 32 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,840 we don't slaughter anybody, where we don't harm or take 33 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,920 hostages or put anybody in an outdoor prison for 17 years. 34 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,720 I don't want to live in that kind of world. 35 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,640 But I'm alive. I'm alive and I'm a witness and 36 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,920 I'm a citizen of this, of this world. 37 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:27,480 And I just can't turn away. I can't ignore what's going on. 38 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,160 And you've heard me, Those of you who've been fans of mine for 39 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:41,920 a long time say that that I will not stand for anti-Semitism. 40 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,320 I will not stand for any kind of bigotry or racism. 41 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,160 I will not stand for anybody who wants to harm the Jews of this 42 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,400 world. And I've talked in the past 43 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,520 about what I've done throughout my life since I was a teenager, 44 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:02,000 to stand up against the haters, to stand up and say with other 45 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,720 non Jews, with Gentiles that we will never let what happened in 46 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,680 the 20th century ever happened again. 47 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:17,840 Never again, never again. But that promise that pledge if 48 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:21,360 you're Jewish and. You hear a non Jew like me say, 49 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,440 I will never let this happen to you again. 50 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,120 I will stand. I will have your back. 51 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,960 I will not allow harm to you if you don't also hear me say that. 52 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,520 I also will not let that happen to any Palestinian brother or 53 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,800 sister of mine on this planet. If I can't say that also, then I 54 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,040 have no credibility. When you hear me say that I will 55 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,720 stand for you. You shouldn't believe me, in 56 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,840 fact. If I can't also say that I will 57 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,680 not let harm come to the Palestinian people, that I will 58 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,440 stop this madness, I will stop this treatment, I will stop this 59 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,920 apartheid, I will stop this, I will do whatever I can. 60 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:05,720 I will not let my government send weapons, send billions of 61 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:13,920 dollars to fund a sad, disgusting, disastrous 62 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:20,080 situation. And I've had many talks with 63 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,040 many Jewish friends, family members. 64 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,440 My niece had her bat mitzvah at Masada. 65 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:39,520 You know the Cliff there in Israel, the Holy Land, where 66 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:46,800 Jews were forced to jump. Many, many, many, many, many 67 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:56,080 hundreds of years ago because they would not take being slaves 68 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:04,320 being subservient to the masters of that time and lost their 69 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,720 lives as a result of it. This is where she she didn't 70 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,960 ever bought mitzvah at the at the wall. 71 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:18,800 Western Wall shit at Masada. So, you know, I don't normally 72 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,320 take the time today to talk to you about all this because I'm, 73 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,680 I have a lot to say and I will, I will say it here in the next 74 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,080 days and weeks to come. It's taking me this long just to 75 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,240 wrap my head around it, just to get over some of the grief so I 76 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,640 could think clearly and say the things I want to say in the 77 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,600 coming weeks here. And when I say weeks, we don't 78 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,360 really have any time because. Because they're they're being 79 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,120 slaughtered, children are being killed, There's a carpet bombing 80 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,960 going on. There's no such thing as they're 81 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,040 targeting Hamas. I mean, I know I don't have to 82 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,160 tell any of you this. You're smart enough to know the 83 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:01,240 BS, but especially for these last few nights, you know, now 84 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,600 some cameras have gotten in there. 85 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,800 They wouldn't let any in at the beginning because they had shut 86 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,280 down, cancelled. They got rid of all the 87 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,080 communication towers and. Internet. 88 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,560 So we didn't see anything these past few days, but now we're 89 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,040 seeing the images of neighborhood after neighborhood 90 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,480 after neighborhood, miles upon miles leveled. 91 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,640 Just buildings leveled. Rubble. 92 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,320 Nothing but rubble. God knows how many people are 93 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,320 under that rubble. And you could never say to me. 94 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,840 You could never justify that to me. 95 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,640 Oh, well, so and so who lived in that neighborhood, did this 96 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,520 awful thing. And so we're going to go kill a 97 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,440 bunch of their people. We won't last as a world, as a 98 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:46,120 planet, as humanity, if that's how we that's how we think and 99 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,760 vengeance, Vengeance will be the death of all of us. 100 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,480 After 911, nobody could think straight in this country. 101 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,080 And so right away it was like, let's invade, let's invade, 102 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,400 let's invade Afghanistan, let's invade Iraq. 103 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,080 Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. 104 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,920 Didn't matter. Let's go kill. 105 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,960 But we kill 300, about 3. The estimate is about 300,000 106 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Iraqi civilians. That's who we are. 107 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,840 But, you know, listen, we're the pros at genocide. 108 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,840 So this goes back a long way. N Americans and the people that 109 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,240 first settled here, the Spanish and the Portuguese and the the 110 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,840 British. We're really good at genocide. 111 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,360 And we've been copied by the masters. 112 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,920 There's this. I'm sure you've read or heard, 113 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,200 you know this, this incredible, awful story of how Hitler, when 114 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:51,880 he was elected in 193233, sent a couple of academics to the US to 115 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:59,240 study how the US gets away with putting their people of color in 116 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,080 the parts of town, the ghettos. How do they create the ghettos 117 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,320 and how do they, how do they make sure that they have no 118 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,440 power? They actually studied this. 119 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,400 In the night the Germans did 19. The 1930s. 120 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,880 Well, I have a lot more to say about all this, but I thought on 121 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,320 this first episode of us talking about this, this horrific 122 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:28,800 slaughter going on, that I would, I would let the people of 123 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Israel, our Jewish neighbors, our brothers and sisters, and 124 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:39,000 our Muslim and Palestinian. Brothers and sisters have the 125 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:44,760 microphone here, so I'm part one in today's podcast, My team 126 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,200 here, my Rumble, my podcast team went down to a mass 127 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:54,000 demonstration at the rush hour on Friday afternoon where a few 128 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,080 thousand New York City Jewish men, women, children took over 129 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:04,680 Grand Central Station and shut it down in a mass act of civil 130 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:09,680 disobedience. We joined them so we could give 131 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:12,360 the microphone to them so we could hear what they had to say. 132 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,360 That's what you're going to hear on today's episode of my 133 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,280 podcast. It'll be a series of people to 134 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,920 talk about why they belong to the Jewish Voice for Peace. 135 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:28,280 JVP and I personally joined Jewish Voice for Peace myself. 136 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,680 These are people demanding an end to the Israeli slaughter, an 137 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:40,280 end to they're asking for a ceasefire, both sides ceasefire, 138 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,960 release of the hostages, stop the killing. 139 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,880 And as Jews they wore these T-shirts that said not in my 140 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,520 name, be over and over, they told us on Friday night. 141 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,360 I don't want a single Palestinian hurt in my name. 142 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,760 As a Jew, I will not stand for this. 143 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Over and over. This is what we heard is very 144 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:08,640 powerful and police at first didn't quite know what to do or 145 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,280 how to take care of this because it was they had shut down Grand 146 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,120 Central Station, which is, you know, no, no easy feat here. 147 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,920 So I'm going to turn it over to them. 148 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,720 You'll hear some of the chanting and some of the singing also 149 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,640 that was going on. And because this is an audio 150 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,880 podcast, I don't have subtitles to put up there for you. 151 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,000 So you can, you know, hear them. But I'll just. 152 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,640 I'll tell you some of the the chance I think you'll be able to 153 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,440 understand Most of them, they're chanting. 154 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,800 Not in our name. Raising our voices higher and 155 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,960 higher. No war. 156 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,400 No war. Call for a ceasefire. 157 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,840 Ceasefire. Now your people are my people. 158 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,400 Your people are mine. These are Jews. 159 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,560 Chanting this to the Palestinians of this world, and 160 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:03,480 especially in Gaza, where you go, I will go. 161 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,600 Palestine, where you go, I will go. 162 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,880 Never again for anyone, never again is now. 163 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,880 So you'll hear all this, and then you'll hear some of the 164 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,600 little brief interviews we did. I really want to thank the only 165 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,760 two executive producers that this podcast has had and it's 166 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,360 what will be almost it'll be 4 years old. 167 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Here this podcast in in December. 168 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:33,920 The Co founder of this with me was Basil Hamden and was he was 169 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:40,440 executive producer of IT for the 1st 2 1/2 years and then for the 170 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,080 last year and a half Angie Vargos has been. 171 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:51,240 The executive producer, Basil is a Palestinian American and Angie 172 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,440 is originally from Illinois. So I'm not, it's not a false 173 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,880 equivalency or anything. I'm just just letting you know 174 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,160 who they are. Two great people I've been able 175 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,880 to work with and a real privilege and an honor. 176 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:09,520 So my thanks to them for that. You'll hear their voices doing a 177 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,920 little bit of this interviewing and talking to people there in 178 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Grand Central. Basil and Angie, So and then 179 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Part 2 of this in a few days will air because the very next 180 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,040 day, on Saturday of this weekend, we went to Brooklyn. 181 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:28,080 And again, Angie and Basil marched with the Palestinian 182 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,400 demonstration for peace and talked to Palestinians and 183 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Palestinian allies, which was one of the amazing things of 184 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,480 this massive March and demonstration on Saturday. 185 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Is how many people came out to support Palestinians. 186 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,840 All kinds of people. All ethnicities, races, 187 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,600 religions, colors, old and young. 188 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,320 It's very powerful. 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So many people and so many 240 00:17:57,190 --> 00:18:00,470 Jewish voices demanding an end to all of this. 241 00:18:01,030 --> 00:18:37,280 It's very powerful. I'll ask you what. 242 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,040 Brings you here today. I'm Jewish and I'm a Holocaust 243 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,080 survivor. And I'm totally. 244 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:50,640 Against what Israel does. My name is Doctor Steve 245 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,400 Auerbach. I am Jewish. 246 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:57,280 I am a pediatrician and I'm calling for ceasefire now not in 247 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,880 my name. The horrific attacks by Hamas 248 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,750 were indeed horrific. But history did not begin on 249 00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:16,390 October 7th. The mass retaliation by Israel 250 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:21,550 against civilians is itself also a war crime, and as a 251 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:27,750 pediatrician, I am saddened and despondent at the deaths of 252 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:33,190 children and their families in Gaza, in Palestine, in Israel. 253 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,960 I've never been prouder of my completely mainstream New York 254 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,880 State chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which 255 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,960 came out with a statement on October 13th calling for a 256 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,320 ceasefire on behalf of the children of Israel and Gaza and 257 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Palestine. I I am shocked, disappointed. 258 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,360 I don't know what the right word is that calling for a ceasefire. 259 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,880 While thousands of civilians are being killed, is somehow 260 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 considered an extremist position. 261 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Calling for a ceasefire in the midst of mass bombings of 262 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:21,960 civilian areas is and should be a normative, mainstream view. 263 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,080 I call on President Biden. I call on Senator Schumer, 264 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,280 Majority Leader in the Senate. I call on my own congressperson, 265 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,720 a Nadler who considers himself the senior Jewish representative 266 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,840 in the House. I call on them to stand up for 267 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,840 actual Jewish values, a ceasefire, no more killing of 268 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,600 children and moving towards an honest, negotiated settlement. 269 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,240 The right wing government in Israel has had no interest in A2 270 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,880 State Solution. That's why they spent the last 271 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,800 10 years propping up a mosque. Neither of those two parties has 272 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,600 in any interest in A2 State Solution and we just get these 273 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,800 endless cycles of violence. The United States can use its 274 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,800 authority and power where it has leverage, principally with 275 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:17,840 Israel, to insist, insist on a ceasefire now and real movement 276 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:21,800 to a just internationally recognized two state solution, 277 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,400 borders. And on behalf of the children 278 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,160 and families of Israel and of Palestine. 279 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,480 I I send you my love. I send you my care as a 280 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,440 pediatrician, as a Jew, as a father. 281 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,720 You mentioned it shouldn't be controversial to want to 282 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,560 ceasefire, but are you heartened to see that the first polls that 283 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,040 have come out show that the majority of Americans actually 284 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,200 do want to ceasefire and the majority of Americans don't 285 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,720 want? The United States sending more 286 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,040 weapons to Israel, does that hearten you at all? 287 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,480 It heartens me to the extent that we can believe the polls. 288 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,880 It heartens me that people are seeing what's going on with 289 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,680 their own two eyes on the screens. 290 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,880 And please take care of yourselves. 291 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,640 Watching these videos over and over again is also harmful. 292 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,080 I was the first responder with 911 and watching horrific videos 293 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,120 over and over again is is is not good for your own health. 294 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,840 But having seen that, please stand for a ceasefire. 295 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,840 The brave 18 or so Congress persons who supported the 296 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,480 ceasefire now including Jamal Bowman, who I work for, 297 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,200 including Velasquez, including AOC in the New York City area. 298 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,360 Bravo to them. But again, yeah, you know, 299 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,720 Israel bombed the heck out of Gaza roughly 10 years ago, then 300 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,640 spent the next 10 years propping up Hamas because neither party's 301 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,640 interested in an actual solution. 302 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,920 And here we are bombing again. So clearly bombing is not the 303 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,960 solution. Clearly more civilian deaths is 304 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,120 not the solution. And again, as a pediatrician, 305 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:07,800 all I can do really is hold up the value as a Jew that all 306 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,280 lives matter, as a Jew and a pediatrician that all children 307 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,520 lives matter and their families and that, you know, these mass 308 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,040 bombings semi discriminate, I guess at best you could call 309 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,480 them is simply unacceptable. And that's why we call for a 310 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:34,080 ceasefire now. Are you here to take a train 311 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,160 skits? Are you here to take a train 312 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,400 today? I am, yes. 313 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,120 I like to say that I believe that this is a volatile 314 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:45,640 situation and I don't think anybody here wants to add to the 315 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,960 bloodshed or they are are are the sorrow. 316 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,080 That is on both sides. That is fueling the anger. 317 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:58,840 And I believe that this is a dangerous situation and it's 318 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,920 not, it's not the way to address it. 319 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,720 I would like to say that to the crowd, if it were possible. 320 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,680 And without permission, I am honoring you to leave these 321 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,760 premises now. If you refuse to leave, you will 322 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,800 be arrested and charged with trespassing. 323 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Just. Curious. 324 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,880 Can I just ask you why you're here and willing to get 325 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,040 arrested? Do you mind? 326 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,720 I guess I'm here because I just feel like I can't sit by and 327 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,400 watch ethnic cleansing and genocide happening in my name. 328 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,600 I just can't watch it. Are you Jewish? 329 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,640 I am, yeah. And you're willing to be 330 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,800 arrested for that today? I'm willing to be arrested for 331 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,520 that as much as it takes. I just we can't allow this to 332 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,120 happen and. Have the world sit silently and 333 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:25,200 just watch it as if Palestinian lives don't matter. 334 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,440 They do matter. I'm married to a Palestinian and 335 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,240 my family is Palestinian. And I'm. 336 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,120 Here, so my children can live in freedom and dignity and all 337 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:37,240 Palestinians can live in freedom and dignity in their homeland. 338 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,240 And today you're willing to be arrested for that cause? 339 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:57,160 Hell yeah, never again. My name is Jay Sabre and I'm 340 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,840 here with Jewish Voice for Peace. 341 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,880 Thousands of Jewish New Yorkers reverberated our voices here in 342 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,320 Grand Central Station in New York City calling for a 343 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,400 ceasefire. Right now, hundreds of arrests 344 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,760 are being made as a people. Who have survived A genocide. 345 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,120 We know that we have to do everything we can to put our 346 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:23,600 bodies on the line to try to stop a genocide from unfolding 347 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,280 in real time against the Palestinians of Gaza. 348 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,720 Have you been heartened to see, despite some very tough media 349 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,400 coverage, that in the first round of polling the majority of 350 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,840 Americans actually do want to ceasefire? 351 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,160 I mean, at first it felt like. We're on the defensive. 352 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,480 Everyone is against us, everyone who wants peace, that the media 353 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,000 is rushing to war again. But it seems like there's 354 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,040 actually a groundswell of support in favor of a ceasefire. 355 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,000 Is that what you're sensing or are you seeing that? 356 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Are you feeling that? Yeah, well, this evening you got 357 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,160 to feel the resounding collective dissent of us raising 358 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,520 our voices saying we need a ceasefire. 359 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,000 We were just in Washington DC last Wednesday where hundreds 360 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,400 got arrested in Congress. Calling for a ceasefire as well. 361 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:20,040 We know that the public wants a ceasefire, does not want the US 362 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,440 to send more money and more weapons to Israel, but instead 363 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,640 call for an immediate ceasefire. Some of your Jewish brethren, 364 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,520 it's the term that gets used all the time will say self hating 365 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,400 Jew. Look at what these animals did 366 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,400 to us on October 7th. You're taking their side. 367 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040 How could you do that? What do you say when you hear 368 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,600 something? Like that we understand that 369 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,480 everybody is grieving in this moment and we refuse to allow 370 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,120 our own pain and trauma to be used to justify further acts of 371 00:27:55,120 --> 00:28:01,240 violence against another people. We are raising our voices to say 372 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,080 not in our name. The hundreds who are getting 373 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,840 arrested are wearing T-shirts right now that say Not in our 374 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,320 Name. Because we believe that our 375 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,240 safety can never come at the expense of the safety of another 376 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:18,360 community. We are proudly Jews who believe 377 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,920 that our tradition compels us to take action for justice, to 378 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,760 honor life as sacred. And so we had rabbis here 379 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,120 getting arrested with us, who are deeply rooted proudly in our 380 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:37,040 Jewish tradition, which tells us to take action, to save life, to 381 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,240 speak up. Right now to try to stop the 382 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,560 bombing of Gaza and also to challenge the US government, 383 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:51,120 which sends $3.8 billion every year in military funding to 384 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,880 Israel. We know that that US complicity 385 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,760 and moral cover has allowed Israel to carry out not only 386 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,080 this latest act of violence, but 75 years of occupation 387 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,880 apartheid. Which are the root of the 388 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,720 violence that we have to address. 389 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,440 For people who are listening, that want to do something, say 390 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,880 something, take part in this, where should they go and what 391 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,040 can they do? So right now, everyone is needed 392 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,080 to raise your voice to call for a ceasefire. 393 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,440 You can call your members of Congress and demand that they 394 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,320 support the ceasefire. Now resolution you can take to 395 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,120 the streets. To support demonstrations that 396 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,040 are right now, helping to build the international outcry that is 397 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,120 necessary to bring an end to Israel's bombing of the 2.2 398 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,520 million Palestinians trapped inside the world's largest open 399 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,880 air prison in Gaza. If they want to take collective 400 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,000 action with Jewish Voice for Peace, which organized this 401 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,720 historic demonstration here this evening, you can go to JVP. 402 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Dot org slash app. Powerful, powerful words on 403 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,920 Friday night at Grand Central Station. 404 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Before I close out here, let me just thank our other two 405 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,000 underwriters for this episode and much gratitude. 406 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,640 Toward those who support this podcast, who financially support 407 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,560 it and support my voice. 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All right. 464 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:57,680 Thank you Babel for supporting my podcast and my voice. 465 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,080 I'm so grateful to those who spoke to us. 466 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,040 If you want to go on my site, you can. 467 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,720 You can see video that we shot on there on Friday night at 468 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,680 Grand Central. So grateful to Jewish Voice for 469 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,960 peace. Like I said, I I signed up and 470 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,080 and joined on Friday night. I'm not Jewish. 471 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,760 I'm not Muslim. As you know, I'm a recovering 472 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,920 Catholic. But all of our voices must be 473 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,560 heard now. We need to join with our Jewish 474 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,640 brothers and sisters who are calling for this ceasefire and 475 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,760 no more killing on either side. A release of the hostages 476 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,480 immediately. Violence, war is not the answer. 477 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000 I'm grateful for those who've taken the stand. 478 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,920 I know for a lot of them it's not easy. 479 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,320 They've had their own trials and tribulations in the past few 480 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,160 weeks with their friends, family members, others that are unhappy 481 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,040 with their strong voices for peace. 482 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,000 I'm sorry to hear that. We should all be that. 483 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,240 We all have to do that. We all have to call our members 484 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,040 of Congress and tell them that we do not want to be the bank 485 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,440 for more death and destruction. We are not supporting this. 486 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,000 I know it's hard for some people. 487 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,840 I know I understand the pain. I don't know it because I 488 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,280 haven't had to live it. But I know that I I've seen 489 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,080 enough of it in my lifetime and I'm sick of it all. 490 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,480 So thank you all of our hundreds, thousands of Jewish 491 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,760 brothers and sisters there at Grand Central the other night 492 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,920 and in a couple of days I'll play Part 2 of this from the 493 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:53,400 Palestinian LED March and. Rally that went across the the 494 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,320 borough of Brooklyn and across the Brooklyn Bridge. 495 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,800 Thousands there on Saturday and Saturday night. 496 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,600 Very powerful moment. And I want you to hear the 497 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,440 Palestinian voices of this. So we'll do that in a couple of 498 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,080 days here on my podcast. Again, my great, great thanks to 499 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,920 my 2 Executive producers who've worked on this podcast, Basil, 500 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:25,440 from the very beginning. Basil Hamden and Angie Vargos, 501 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,440 who is my current editor and executive producer. 502 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080 Thank you for the great work you did and the and the risks that 503 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,720 you took to kind of pull this together. 504 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,080 So let's close out with the rest of that song from Natalie 505 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,960 Merchant, who's also a signer to the Ceasefire letter. 506 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,360 It was the one song that I felt just kind of conveyed where I'm 507 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520 at. This week, these last couple 508 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,360 weeks, and just if you can just hang with me here for two more 509 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,440 minutes and and hear the last part of the song, I'd really, 510 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,040 I'd really enjoy and appreciate knowing that that we kind of 511 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,560 shared this together. Be well, everyone, this is 512 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,040 Michael Moore. This is Rumble. 513 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:27,080 Swelling off the ground, the road was scarce in this wall. 514 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:36,800 The corners, but a mountain. The corners, but a mountain 515 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:50,480 since Auntie Sanchez. Hoodie feels shorter than D 516 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:59,800 since I've heard the mind of horse's head with dwarf turn 517 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:43,960 teeth. 20 turn teeth. Because I could not stop. 518 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:55,520 For death he kindly stopped. For me the carriage held, but 519 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:10,120 just ourselves and immortality and immortal.