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This is Rumble with Michael 
Moore and I'm Michael Moore and 

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welcome everyone. 
We got some good news last 

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night, a jury in Washington, 
d.c. convicted the founder and 

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the leader of the Oath Keepers 
for His role in the January 6th 

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attempt to overthrow our 
government, and to overturn the 

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legitimate election of Joe Biden
as president of the United 

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States. 
His name is Elmer Stewart 

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Rhodes. 
He and four others were 

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convicted of a variety of 
offenses but the most serious 

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one that he and the person who 
was the head of the Florida 

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chapter of The Oath Keepers. 
His name was Kelly Meg's were 

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both convicted yesterday last 
night. 

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Seditious conspiracy, which is a
very, very serious crime. 

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There have been people charged 
with it, only a couple of times 

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in the last few decades. 
It's hard to get a conviction on

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because you really have to prove
that this group of people had 

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conspired to essentially 
overthrow the government. 

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The other three were, convicted 
of lesser charges, but not 

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sedition, their names were 
Thomas called well, Jessica 

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Watkins, and Kenny Harrelson, 
they were convicted of of aiding

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and abetting trying to obstruct 
Congress from having it session.

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It was not a guarantee that they
were going to get these 

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convictions. 
They were a little worried that 

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they might have overreached but 
apparently, the jury did not see

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it that way. 
And at least a couple of them 

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are going to more than likely be
sentenced for 10 or 20 years in 

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prison for what happened on 
January, 6 of 20 21 and so good.

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This is what the justice 
department should be doing. 

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This is how they should be 
protecting us. 

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The primary terrorists against 
this country are not Outsiders. 

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They are not foreigners, they 
are Americans. 

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They are the people down the 
street and many of them are 

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armed and they are hell-bent on 
trying to create some sort of 

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civil war or to use violence in 
any way that they feel fit to 

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overturn, things roads himself 
in the days and weeks, leading 

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up to January 6th. 
A various interviews wrote on 

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his own site. 
About his hope to meet force 

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with Force to quote him. 
He wanted to hang Nancy, Pelosi 

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from a Lamppost, putting the 
word out to people all over the 

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country to come to DC be ready 
for when President Trump calls 

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upon us. 
And so they brought a lot of 

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weapons, a lot of them, brought 
the weapons to the uprising on 

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the 6th of January. 
That's why they didn't go 

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through the metal detectors for 
Trump's rally. 

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I didn't want to have to turn 
their guns over over. 

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A lot of them left the guns, in 
the hotel rooms where they were 

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staying. 
The thinking was if this gets 

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bigger than we think it is, 
we've got the guns here to do 

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what we need to do. 
And it seems like from roads as 

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testimony. 
He was trying to make clear that

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you see, we left the guns in the
hotel room. 

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So you can see where we weren't 
really going to do anything 

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violent, but it felt more like a
lament that they left the guns 

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in the hotel room because 
looking back on it now. 

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And I think the lesson to the 
next time somebody tries to 

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Overthrow the government in 
their minds. 

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They won't be so stupid as to 
leave the guns in their hotel or

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motel room. 
They will use them. 

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And there will be Bloodshed, I 
hate to have to even say that 

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out loud, but I don't think by 
sticking our heads in the sand. 

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This problem is going to go 
away. 

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So the justice department, the 
FBI, the people that are 

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supposed to be protecting us. 
The people that in the past 

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participated, in a lot of 
propaganda to have us afraid of 

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foreigners for Owners are going 
to attack us, the foreigners are

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going to invade, you know, the 
terrorists. 

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Now I think we finally all agree
and even the FBI had admitted it

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in front of Congress that the 
main terrorists that we have to 

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worry about are angry white men,
who are American citizens, he 

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didn't quite put it that way, 
but that's exactly what they 

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mostly all are so off to jail. 
They will go. 

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things here about this, but 

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Now I'm certain most of you by 
now, and we only spent a few 

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minutes talking about this, but 
basically the first thought that

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comes to any of our minds is so 
Stewart. 

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Rhodes was responsible for this 
Stewart, Rhodes came up with 

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this idea to have this 
insurrection. 

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Stewart Rhodes. 
Stood on the mall, in front of 

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the Washington Monument. 
Telling everybody to head to the

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Capitol Building. 
Take back the government. 

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No. 
I'm not saying he didn't play 

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his role in it as a lieutenant 
as someone who was working with 

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Michael Flynn, Roger, Stone, 
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But as we all know and when we 
hear this about well, they 

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finally they put these guys on 
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They got their convictions but 
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What about the big cheese? 
What about the guy who really 

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called for the insurrection? 
Weeks and weeks after his defeat

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at the polls. 
That's all he would write or 

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talk about. 
How the election was stolen. 

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We had to fight to get it back, 
no matter what. 

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And then his speech that day and
I'll let's on to the Capitol 

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Building. 
I'm walking with you. 

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No, still not arrested, still 
not indicted still not on trial 

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and still thinking that he'll 
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bars. 
The Benedict Arnold here. 

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The real traitor. 
You know, these guys roads and 

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Meg's and the other three people
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They're not the Benedict Arnold.
They're like the other Arnold's,

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you know, Larry and Moe and 
curly Arnold. 

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The Benedict Arnold in this case
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And his top advisors. 
His clothes, people, General, 

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Michael Flynn, convicted felon. 
Pardoned by Trump, Roger Stone. 

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Longtime adviser for many many 
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And of trump, Convicted. 
And then pardoned, by Trump This

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is The Gang. 
This is the real game. 

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So where's where's the arrests? 
Where's the trials for? 

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What happened on January 6? 
For the leaders. 

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Of this revolt. 
Not yet. 

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And I think they're throwing us 
a bone look. 

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We were going to put away the 
head of the Oath Keepers and Oh 

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and next up in a couple months, 
we're going to put the proud 

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Boys on trial. 
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Listen I got a lot of work to 
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I'm sure a lot of you do too, we
don't have time for this 

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bullshit. 
I'm not saying, you know, don't 

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put people on trial committed 
these crimes but the people 

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behind the crimes, the real 
people not the henchmen that 

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worked for Al Capone, Al Capone 
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What's going on here? 
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three Watkins and Harrelson and 
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the Lesser charges that the what
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of obstructing Congress from 
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charges of aiding and abetting 
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proceeding aiding and abetting 
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this, when the uprising was put 
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Congress practically in the 
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certify the election. 
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Republicans in the Senate, and 
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voted to obstruct the election. 
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down in a roll call. 
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certify the legitimate election 
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the United States. 
There is a record of this right 

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there in Congress. 147, 
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treason Now I'm not a lawyer. 
I don't know if it's legal 

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treason but what do you call it 
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call it a Teague and abetting 
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from being officially named. 
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States, that was their goal that
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It was the goal of the violent 
mob that was encouraged and 

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cheered on and led by Trump. 
They all probably thought he was

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actually walking along with 
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That was what was going on. 
There was an act to overthrow 

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the government, there was an act
here a violent act to overturn, 

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the election to stop Congress 
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what they did. 
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Congress had to run. 
They had a noose, they wanted to

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hang Mike Pence with because he 
wouldn't stop it. 

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And the 435 actually 535 members
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Had to run for their lives. 
Go into hiding leave Capitol 

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Hill. 
Or some couldn't get out of the 

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chamber's. 
Had to hide up in the balcony, 

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on the floor. 
Thinking this was the end of 

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their life making their final 
calls to their loved ones at 

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home. 
Aiding and abetting disrupting a

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session of Congress. 
Obstructing an official 

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proceeding of the federal 
government a jury just convicted

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five people of that. 
Why do the 147 Republicans who 

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five hours later tried to do the
same thing? 

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Try to do it through the legal 
means because they get a vote 

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because they are elected by the 
people of the United States. 

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Voted to stop Biden from being 
the president. 

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And what did that? 
What if they had succeeded? 

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What would you call that? 
They're trying to overthrow the 

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government of the United States.
They were trying to overturn an 

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election and stop the duly 
elected president of the United 

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States from stepping foot into 
the Oval Office. 

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And we just saw yesterday, five 
people. 

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Five people convicted, two of 
them of seditious conspiracy 

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conspiracy to commit sedition. 
when the real sedition was 

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organized promoted and Lead, By 
the commander-in-chief by the 

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president of the United States. 
And his top minions. 

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Not Stewart, Rhodes Stewart, 
Rhodes. 

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Yeah, course, he did what he did
and Meg's and the others. 

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They all did it. 
There's so much audio and visual

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footage of them doing what they 
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January 6. 
On January 6, in the Willard 

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Hotel, in the meetings, in the 
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If this ends here with this 
conviction, then there's been no

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justice. 
And I just read where of those 

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hundred and forty seven, 
Republicans. 119 of them are 

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back in this new session coming 
up in Congress, 119 election 

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deniers 119, who voted on the 
night of January, 6th to give 

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the insurgents what they wanted 
in overthrow of our 2020 

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election. 
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And there's not really going to 
be real Justice until they have 

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been dealt with. 
For what they did to our 

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country. 
We need aggressive prosecution. 

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We need to toss them out in the 
next election. 

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A few of them didn't make it. 
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did. 
They were hoping for the Red 

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Wave. 
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wave so they could continue all 
the other actions of white 

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privilege, white supremacy. 
All the other racism and bigotry

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and hatred. 
And misogyny the things that 

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they so strongly believe in. 
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was going to be packed 
wall-to-wall with Republicans at

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the election three weeks ago. 
And that didn't happen things to

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you, you and millions of others.
Because we weren't going to have

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any of that. 
These are people tried to 

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violently overthrow the country 
or supported the violence or 

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turn their heads the other way. 
During a time of white 

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supremacy, rearing its ugly head
and not just in Congress right 

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down to your local school board 
meeting packed with parents, 

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wanting to make sure their 
children are not taught about 

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slavery about the genocide of 
our Native Americans. 

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No, no. 
We can tell all that from school

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board meetings to Capitol Hill, 
White people are in their own 

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uprising. 
And not a week goes by where we 

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don't have to deal with it on 
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Whether it's because of violence
that takes place or whether it's

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Donald Trump inviting a white 
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to dinner. 
At Mar-A-Lago. 

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Oh, I didn't invite him. 
I didn't know. 

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Anyway, no idea who he was. 
Mmm-hmm. 

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Okay, I get it. 
I get that dumb. 

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People think we're as dumb as 
they are, so he thinks will just

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fall for that. 
We're in charge here. 

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Folks were the majority and we 
have to stop this. 

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We can't let this continue. 
What happened last night with 

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that jury in d.c. 
That's a good thing that's 

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taking a stand. 
No you cannot commit this kind 

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of crime in this country but we 
also cannot let the leaders who 

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plot and plan encourage and 
Lead. 

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Violent. 
Violent. 

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Uprisings and revolts they're 
only going to continue with my 

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friends and they're going to 
continue it in a much more 

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aggressive way. 
If we don't stop them, they need

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to see what's going to happen if
they decide to participate at 

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this sort of endeavor. 
And if the main, if the main 

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leader of this Donald J, Trump 
is allowed to go scot-free 

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without having to pay for his 
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For his racism. 
Well, I guess we won't be 

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anything new for him, right? 
Because he's gotten away with 

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everything else. 
Before, he's gotten away with it

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since Daddy. 
Since he was just a young young 

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young, man, helping daddy run 
his apartment complexes in New 

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York City. 
And whenever a family would come

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into want to rent an apartment 
in Brooklyn or Queens. 

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If they were black, little C 
went on on the application form.

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We'll see, I think we'll see 
with a circle. 

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I like a copyright sign but it 
didn't mean copyright a mint 

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colored. 
And out of the thousands of 

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families that they rented 
Apartments to the federal 

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government said, they can only 
find something like seven black 

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families that were in these big 
Trump apartment buildings. and 

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they had to settle with the 
federal government, they were 

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sued in a Civil Trial, not a 
criminal trial, of course, that 

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criminal game be criminal to 
deny a black family in 

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apartment, but they had to 
settle. 

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They had to essentially admit 
that their racism ran their 

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operation. 
And basically got off scot-free.

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It's been that way as whole 
life. 

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Don't you think? 
It's time. 

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We put a stop to it. 
Then he would have the audacity 

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after being soundly defeated. 
He in the candidates, he 

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endorsed in this election three 
weeks ago that just a few days 

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after that, He announces, he's 
running for president again. 

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Who are we? 
Somebody who tried to overthrow 

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the United States. 
Government, somebody who tried 

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to overturn a legitimate 
election. 

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Somebody who tried to stop the 
individual that we, the people 

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voted for by over 7 million 
votes over the number of votes. 

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He got complete and utter 
rejection in 2020 and then how 

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they were supposed to completely
take over here on November 8th 

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of this year and they got 
defeated in the Senate. 

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They got defeated across the 
country numerous governorships, 

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the most women now is governors 
in this country that we've had 

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ever. 
But looks like they may have the

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house by four votes, four votes 
out of 435. 

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With a majority leader that 
isn't sure. 

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He's got enough votes to become 
a majority leader and it may 

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actually go to a floor fight 
which hasn't happened in a 

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hundred years that since 1923 
has there been a fight within a 

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party as to who the majority 
leader, will the speaker of the 

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house is going to be wow. 
That's how much they're in 

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control. 
It's going to be one shitshow 

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after another for them. 
And you know what? 

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I was telling you last week. 
Remember that in this case in 

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the 2020 election, the two years
there were sixteen members of 

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Congress elected that never made
it to the end of the term, two 

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years later. 
If they quit, or they died or 

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they were indicted, or they 
caught in a scandal or for any, 

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of a number of reasons, we need 
to be ready for that because 

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it's going to actually, it 
already started sadly yesterday.

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A democratic member of Congress 
passed away. 

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Donald mceachin is part of the 
Congressional Black Caucus. 

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And he didn't make it. 
So they're already going to have

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to have a special election at 
some point to replace them. 

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We have to make sure we keep 
that seat but this is what 

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happens in any Congress. 
That's why it's never really 

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over and we should be ready to 
run the right. 

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People in these special 
elections especially when a 

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republican has to leave because 
of some Scandal or being 

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indicted or whatever or like in 
Alaska, where the Republican 

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Congressman this past year died 
and in the special election, a 

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Native Alaskan. 
A woman wins a Democrat. if we 

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really are still willing to 
fight, if we are still willing 

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to put up the best candidates, 
How do they hang on? 

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If they only are ahead by four 
votes in the house now? 

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Four votes. 
So, what that means is if two 

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Republicans change their mind or
don't show up, or just vote 

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present, It's a tie vote. 
They've got a whole all that 220

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Republicans together in always 
vote the same way every time and

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they are are good at that. 
There's no doubt about that but 

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we live in a different time. 
We live in a strange time and 

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nothing nothing should be 
assumed here and we should stand

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ready to take back the house 
during these two years. 

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That's it for my podcast today. 
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