Hey everyone. This is Michael Morin.
This is the end of our first week with Rumble with Michael
Moore and we were actually going to yesterday do a podcast with a
very special surprise guest and all of a sudden I had a dental
emergency and We had to cancel it then and I said to my friends
here why don't we? Well let's just take the podcast
equipment over to the dentist office and and we'll record
perhaps maybe the first ever known podcast from a dentist
chair. And that's what we did.
We went to see my long time. Dennis, he's been my dentist for
about 25 years. A really great guy and I love
sitting in the chair too. In politics with him, getting
his sense of what's going on, what he thinks, his opinion is
what's going on in the world and, and so that's what we did.
So the next half hour we'll be me in the dentist's chair.
Talking to my dentist. Well I'm getting drilled.
I say that only as a warning in case there's any children in the
room. So let's let's head over to the
dentist. So how do you feel You there on
Wednesday when Congress voted to impeach full confidence, they
were going to do. So it seems like there are two
alternate versions of Truth in Washington.
And the Republican Party, seems to have this really dug
themselves into into how they see things and how and how to
how to obfuscate what What's being presented to them?
It there, there isn't even a dent now, why, why are they
doing that? I was gonna ask you.
I can't I had someone who I can't figure it out because, you
know, they can continue being Republicans and having political
positions that maybe you were I don't share but also stand up
for something when it's wrong, just wrong.
Forget about, it's not a Democratic Republic of thing,
it's just wrong and and stand up for the truth because The truth
is the truth but they have bought in.
Now to the moment we're in the trumpian moment, we're in where
there are many truths or as kellyanne.
Yes, told us that first week. There is truth, and then there's
alternate truth. Yeah, like, that was a good
thing now. I watch that same hearing I did.
I just couldn't understand but you were happy though when it
happens old. Yeah, you weren't cynical about
it with like, oh, well, what good does that do?
Because he's not going to get convicted.
I mean, Truth is truth, right? And we should take a the our
members who represent us should take a stand for the future to
say we don't I'm sorry. This is not the way it's going
to run, that's not the way. It should run, right?
Right. And go on the record and say
that. Yeah.
So let it be on his record as well.
Wow. Yeah.
His fellow officers, any room left on his record as well.
We're thinking his long list of it's nice to have one, right?
Spot. Yes, I guess.
So we're going to have a momentary Dental interlude here.
Okay, we're gonna where I feel that there's a needle close by
and I'm just going to be quiet for a moment.
Okay. I will be too.
In order and effective, just closed a bit, great stay just
like that. And I will be taking my phone
down all those. Right.
Excellent. on those rare
moments, when you have a quiet by going on, Just a little bit
more job if you want to rinse out, you okay.
So what we're going to do now is wait for it, I feel it starting
to numb up. Okay, open up again.
Okay, bye down for me. Right through just bite down,
stay close, great, just like that.
Don't move around. Perfect stay just like that.
Very nice. Keep biting down.
All right. I think that blows he's a master
tactician. Hmm I think she's clearly has an
amazing ability of foresight know where things are going, no
with the blue, know what the possibilities are, and know the
best tactic to get the result that she wants.
Uh-huh. And she being a major irritant
to also a plus because he whose name shall Beam engine needs
whatever stimulus can be provided to him to push him over
the edge. Hmm, what you think about the
the switcheroo she pulled their at the End by saying we're not.
I'm not sending this over to the Senate until I know that there's
a clean scent that they're going to have a real trial and not
just some made up thing, it was great, wasn't it?
Perfect didn't see that coming I certainly did not, I didn't know
it was possible, Right? You know, and and somebody is
said that me the other day. So you know what's amazing too?
Because they know people say a little burn, he's too old she's
a year older than Bernie Pelosi is older than Bernie.
It's like you know know what are the mean the kids are for they
love this, the young adults teenagers.
They love watching, people having gotten to that age and
still the fight in them. You know, and the willingness to
think this out in a way that we can't think it out.
It's like, and which means, right?
She's got other things that she's thought after, she's
figured out what the pool chemical reactions are going to
be and how to deal with them, right?
All right, I pray that she does. Right.
Right, right. Right.
Jesus going to be an interesting year coming up and we'll be
listening. Yeah, well but yeah, but when I
need one done just like yeah, thank you for listening.
You know, I was just thinking actually, your old office before
you into semi-retirement was was sort of over in that
neighborhood where Trump Tower is.
And the I've never asked you this but I and of course I know
you've confidentiality regulations You have to follow,
but is there any chance that? Perhaps Donald Trump ever sat in
the chair here with you? Or anyone of his family?
Or anybody may have you had any? You were right?
You really just a couple blocks away there and I never had any
contact with him and that would have been a real dilemma.
For you had had that possibility, Arisen really?
What if he just walked in one day and said, oh my way to Third
and it's a, what would you don't you're ready?
Come on your. You don't do.
Dennis, take a Hippocratic. Author is what's the deal?
Well, I would have gotten that got even gotten them out of pain
and I would have referred to somebody else.
Oh you. But you would have done that.
Yeah. You would have helped him in his
moment of distress. Yes.
Well that's so that's a very I was going to say, that's very
Christian thing of you not to give anything away here.
It's a very judeo Christian. Why don't we say?
It's a judeo Christian thing. Oh, you said, there's any way I
would just say that's a very judeo thing of you to do is like
incorrect. But but but okay.
But that's I'm impressed though that you would that that, but I
think that's partly what I hope defines our side is that, that
That there is compassion. Yeah, but things could be that
way, you know, in Congress as well they should be that way.
Absolutely. No.
I'm gonna have to agree. You know, but deal with the
problems ever, taking Trump out of his pain, all right?
And you are and you are swearing, you wouldn't dial the
gas up, just a little two notches to high, just, right?
Because I mean, that's always my fear, like a virus have to have
an operation or whatever, whoever they have seized
geologist, is voted for Trump. And as I'm looking, King up and
they're making me count back from 10.
Yeah. I just see his hand, taking the
dial and just going a notch or two.
And then he's a hero, a healthy bit of in half of Americans.
Yes. Right.
So you would, but you would refer him to Who Would you
referring to someone who leans in his Direction?
Some and you would know who that would be maybe.
Okay, all right. Well that's that's that's more
than a lot of people would do so, you know, two points for
you. What's our, what's our and I
feel I'm getting really numb you are.
But remember sometimes I'm not dumb enough.
You know, you just remember your left hand tells the story, okay?
Now why? Why is that though?
Why why do why do I suddenly you feel?
Sometimes I need a little bit more of the juice to numb me up,
is that just because I'm a six foot two, you know, large guy,
or is it just something? Which is more sensitive or this
is all over the anesthetic. Clean, don't even start with
sensitive. Some people are just more
sensitive. That's the way.
Okay, well, that's good. I'll take that.
All right, it's funny how we're in the 21st century and you're
still using these metal instruments that look like they
could have used a hundred years ago.
We probably were, thanks. I don't mean these variants are
If it, if Trump wins again, he's going to be going against the
flow. If Trump wins again, we're all
earlier, we're all going to need a lot more in dental work.
Then you're in the middle of. Yeah.
What are we doing now? That's interesting.
Don't you think that that dental care when we talk universal
healthcare should be talked about in the same breath?
Oh, absolutely. Well, I don't, I've never
understood. Why?
Why dental and mental health, you know, if I were running for
something, I'd run on that platform position of dental
mental that we need to. We need to put, we need to have
because because it seems to me and I'll get, I'm not a medical
expert. But that if trouble starts in
your mouth, the chance of it spreading to the rest of your
body. Whether it's an infection or
whether it's just the ability to chew food that it would seem
like that. The poor you are meaning the
less dental care that you get, you grow up with teeth that
aren't able to to chew what you would call.
The the What are the what do you like they're called vegetables,
vegetables, whole grains, things that we need teeth.
Why a protein? But that's the bushy food.
You end up eating a lot of simple carbohydrates you know,
mashita sugary food. So that's one aspect of it is
probably at least as important than us but there is a direct
connection between oral health in general physical health what
would you how would you Describe the connection between oral
health and then the general physical health.
Well, let's take, for example, periodontal disease, is
implicated in heart disease, and hmm, and all kinds of General
physical, ramifications. The same bacteria are involved
and that that's where it rather. You don't like the original.
So it starts in your mouth, goes into your bloodstream, into your
heart. Essentially, that the path.
Yeah. And then boom.
So it's the implication of oral health.
We are systemic. I read I read somewhere that to
it that if you don't get dental care in your Youth and you end
up with teeth that are not right, crooked etcetera, didn't
come in right. Your chance of getting a better
job or anymore. Oh yeah.
But there was an actual, they actually have data on this that,
that the less dental care you were given in your youth can
correlate to less money that you're going to be able to make,
because somebody doesn't want to hire you because It does kind of
makes common sense that you would end up that there would be
an economic piece of this an impact to where you are kept as
part of the Working Poor. So kind of, I mean in a macro
sense that they it would make sense to have dental care as
part of the General Medical governmental plan, however, that
was structured fright because it's preventative if you've got
your tea, If your teeth are strong.
Yeah, it can chew the carrot but that's the macro view.
Yeah. The micro view is very expensive
to provide that to provide that kind of service to people,
right? Because more people have front
dental problems and have a goal bladder problems, you know,
right? Right.
So Phil be an expensive proposition.
Is that going to come from one or two less aircraft carriers?
I want that. Maybe, I don't know.
The that should do it right there.
No, I think we were the richest country on earth.
I mean really we can't do it and it can't be done.
So I'd like to believe it can be done.
So richest country in the world. How can begin for 391 million
bucks were balloons? I think you're referring to the
Ukraine. Oh yeah, money.
Yes. Well, the fact that he would
think that, that was his money, his money that he can withhold
to benefit him. He's just another, it's just
another area where I can't on these things.
If people looking attitude. I'm so mad at them.
I had to be there in the room. The other night, watching them,
the way, they behaved, what you don't see on camera, the way
that they are in the floor. It was so disgusting.
And you know, my grandfather in the town where I grew up, he was
like one of the Republican leaders of the town but he was a
conservative out from the really.
He was born in the 1800's so he was you know, they believed they
would Teddy Roosevelt, they believe in conserving men,
conserving, the land you know conserving and conserve your
money. Don't Don't be spending money on
stuff, you do in the money for her.
Whatever. You know, that was that kind of
conservative thinking but that but that's a different world.
That's a whole different world, he wouldn't understand.
If he were with me, my grandfather, he were alive and
he were with me. The other night in the house
Gallery watching that watching these so-called Republicans, he
wouldn't know what Florida looking at know, and he would
lead the charge to remove all of them and if they can't be
removed then then shunned this party Shawn, this party because
party now Has taken a stand against you and me and the rest
of the country. Forget about what our own Paula
personal politics are they basically said it was okay, to
collaborate to collude with another country.
To destroy someone who's running for office here in this country.
Well, I think we're on the same page.
Michael, let's head on. You feel like I'm wasting I
tried to put off. No, no, I know this isn't gonna
hurt so you just say it's going to sound bad.
Yeah, okay. Truck.
Once again he's going to be going against the flow.
If Trump wins again, we're all earlier we're all going to need
a lot more in dental work then you're into Mobile world.
Yeah that's sentimental or what are we doing now?
Yeah sounds they're going to be sculpting those fillings and
okay making sure your B okay stuff like that.
It'll be fine. Yeah, no problem.
Seems like a reasonable time to take a break.
Can I ask you a question? You can Medicare for all.
Good idea. Better idea coming in that
sense. I like the gradual transition
with the option to keep your insurance if that's what you
really want to do, right? Except you know the thing about
when you have private insurance, it's not really your option.
It's always your bosses option. And you know you can say you
want to keep it but like when those GM workers went on strike
a couple months ago. Yeah the third day into it the
head of General Motors said I'm cutting off your health care
because she had the right to do that because she's the boss and
she just did it and we got to know that going in.
Yeah. Well that's why I'm saying that
when when it seems like when the day comes, when our health
insurance is guaranteed to us as a right by our government, no
boss will be able to wake up one day and go, you know what?
This is costing me too much money.
I'm going to cut back, I'm going to cut it in half.
I'm going to I'm going to raise the copay and the deductible or
whatever else. That doesn't happen in all these
other countries where but if that should happen yeah you have
the option of just saying okay goodbye then you just go then
you go get then go sign up for Medicare.
Yeah. So you're not without right.
I see going to be just be easier just have everybody already on
it. Yeah I would.
But the problem the only problem that I see with that is that you
You are, you're not giving people who want to have options
options, hmm, he had people get pissed off at that but even in
these countries were socialized medicine, saying it makes sense.
Yeah, but they all have options. They have like a Germany and
elsewhere. They, you can get extra care,
you can get like, let's say like the general and a, I don't know
if like a country, like Canada. If you have to go the hospital,
it's completely covered. If you want a private room, you
pay more. Yeah.
So you, you know, so there are those options if you have the
money and you want those things, you can have them.
I understand that. But I don't think that's the
issue in this country. The issue in this country is is,
I mean, it's like the gun. It's like the gun issue.
People don't want to get things taken away that they're used to
it. They like that though that are
working. You're saying that we are like
children. Yeah, well, as a citizen, as a
human being, as a doctor, you're your general overall.
Healing is what in terms of of covering people and all my
family and having it be much simpler, this is just to have
Universal coverage. Yeah, well.
And then everybody should be able to see a dentist.
See a doctor whenever they need to exactly, and have it covered.
Yeah, and that lose your house. No.
But the the the sticky part of that wheel is that if they're
going to compensate all doctors, all kinds of doctor.
Yeah. At the All that, they're
compensating them. Now, that's going to be a
problem because the if you ever, if you ever look at Medicare
compensation Form that you get an EOB were statement of claim,
whatever you see how little they pay a little Medicare payments.
Yeah, so doctors are going to make less money.
Doctors are going to, I don't know what the hell doctors were
going to do. It's certainly not be an
incentive one to get the best. People going through I'm going
into medicine and do you think they have no problem in France
or Germany or Canada? No idea.
I mean, I've studied it because I've gone there, I don't know
what their level of payment is it's pretty good.
I mean they I mean actually GP family doctor in this country
makes less than a family doctor does in Canada.
Well then they must be compensating them better than
Medicare does here well. Yeah yes and also But yes
because I mean that's it's so even with private insurance
here, it's so hard for a family physician to get the insurance
company to cover stuff. That's why they got those.
Those nine people sitting in that outer office in the glass,
all on the phone yelling at the insurance company because
insurance company doesn't want to pay, they make more profit
when they don't pay. I run into that problem with on
insurance companies are constantly trying to school
people out of money and I'm and my role will be became when I,
when I, when I would had a much busier practice that I find with
insurance companies, right? And takes up time, it takes up
time, but insurance companies respond.
When you do that, I think the game shouldn't have to do it.
The game is obstruct and see what you can get away with.
That's their game. Yeah, and obstruct.
Yeah deny and see if we can get away with.
That's right and that's why we'll make more money.
Yeah, sure. Should the the concept.
A prophet even be entering into this.
I mean that insurance company which has nothing to do with
being a doctor, even though they hire doctors to do to screw
people. Sadly.
Right. That's the truth.
Okay. So, you know, it just seems like
the game here is how they make more money when they deny more
claims. Yeah, well that's just on its
face immoral. To me, that's just wrong.
You know. It should the decision Like and
you shouldn't you as a dentist or the doctor next door.
Should never have to make a decision based on whether or not
you're going to have to fight tooth and nail the insurance
company has paid and it's just wrong his face on its back.
Anyway you want under its but it's all wrong.
Sure. I don't want to live it.
I want this to be better. Why can't we have what the
Canadians have? You ever been there?
Oh yeah, they're happy people. It's true or happier than us,
you know. It's not running around still
preoccupied. Yeah, exactly.
Right. If I asked the British doctor, I
said, you know what about, you know, you make lesson, doctor
wasn't such a specialist in the US and he said, well, but I get
to live here where everybody's taking care of and it's a safer
Society because people are not in the falling between the
cracks and and then become desperate and he said, plus I,
here's my Beemer, I don't need to Beamers, I'm happy with one
Beamer. I live in a million-dollar
condo. I Don't need to live in a two
million dollar condo. I have a great life and he says
the thing with you Americans are you you know you get a great
life and then you want a greater life, then when you get a
greater life you want even a greater life and it's kind of
like you know when it's when is enough is enough here when
you're when you're already live in a really good life.
Sure. Yeah.
And I know I thought well, that makes sense.
Sure does. I belong to a union.
So this today is hardly cost me. Anything I belong to three
unions. So you know, it's a good deal
for me but it shouldn't just be because I belong to Union.
Everybody should have this an advanced country.
Supposedly. Okay.
Are we done? Just want to say that both
Bernie and Elizabeth Warren's plans in our phase ins is going
to be just a change overnight. Obviously the first year I think
with Bernie the first year Medicare gets lowered from 65
255. And next year to 45, it's going
to phase in like that. And I think most Americans to
have them. They actually do want their
family doctor and And we Dennis paid.
Well I mean we're happy we want you to be.
This is so important to us, you know, are you know are just
basic. Do everyday function is based on
the work you do and when we're in trouble, whether it's in our
body our mouths or you know, our mentals conditions.
We look to you, we need you so I can't imagine any anybody
supporting in a plan that doesn't properly compensate.
The Great work and important work that people in your
profession do. But I think if you agree with
this I don't I can't live in a country where tens of millions
of people don't have the care that they, they should have.
It's unconscionable. Yes.
And it's it. I can't, you know, they're
Americans to we're all in this together and I want them to.
I want them to have what I have. I don't want to just say, oh, I
got this. Good union insurance.
So I'm all set. Thanks that does not.
Not make me happy and make it might get me in to the doctor
and get my whatever I need fixed fixed, but I can't just sleep
well with that. Indiscernible, you know, and I
don't talk to you over the years.
It's, it's really appreciated listening to your viewpoints on
this and and and how you feel about where things are at.
And you know, you've lived a little longer than I have.
So you've seen things hoping to see better?
Yes, right. Yes.
You don't want to go out like this.
Wait neither, do I write what we got this?
These kids and the grandkids, you know, and it's like you know
can't feel good about it until this is fixed.
So and if they can have it in Canada this is my course from
Michigan. So they're just across the river
ice. Yeah, they know how upset I am
but they have something we don't have.
So you know, it wasn't enough just that we took their hockey
game from them is enough of this loading.
I know. I know.
Well there's no gloating we just we just want, we just want with
the Tab, that's all we're asking.
For is a the Canadians are grown now?
They're actually they do, you know, they will, they're not.
There are, they are nice and they're polite and their streets
are clean. But let me tell you, make sure
they don't have a hockey stick in their hand, that's all I'm
saying. All right, well, I appreciate
you seeing me here on a Saturday.
Thank you very much. Doctor for being part of Rumble
here. My chief been my dentist for
like ever. I can't thank you enough.
For what you've done for me and thanks everybody who's listening
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I can't. It stopped potting.
So we have to be quiet for the business through hours.
Yeah, this is the this is the this is the longest moment of
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