Why does Donald Trump hate Catholics?
This is Michael Moore. This is my podcast and I, I woke
up this morning thinking about this.
It's like, what's his thing about the Catholics?
Why they hate, I mean, the viciousness toward Catholics
Putting that out there that the Catholics of Springfield, OH are
eating cats and dogs, killing people's pets, oh, and taking
everybody's jobs and, you know, living off welfare and all the
other vicious, vicious things, vicious anti Catholic statements
from him. And, and this is this is just
the latest. This is nothing new.
This has been going on since he came down that golden escalator
in June of 2015, stood to the microphone there and and went on
and on about Catholics being rapists and drug dealers and all
sorts of criminals lining up at our border, our southern border,
to get into our country, to bring their Catholic criminal
ways into our country. And it didn't matter where they
were coming from, all through Latin America, Central America,
Mexico, Venezuela, Venezuela. He's nuts about Venezuela.
He's like, they're like the worst thing since the Soviet
Union. I just looked it up today.
It's 98% Catholic. So the Catholics are attacking
us from Venezuela. The Catholics are lining up at
our borders, sneaking into our country.
They've somehow found a way to trick us into letting them into
the God Bless America city of Springfield.
OH, Springfield, anywhere. They've probably got so many
Catholics invading so many Springfield.
You know there's 38 Springfields in this country, 50 states, 38
Springfields. Now multiply that by how many
Catholics? Folks, I'm telling you, we are
under siege from Catholics. And what are we doing about it?
I mean, Trump has got everybody frightened by what these
Catholics are doing to our country.
Remember, he used to say they were from the shithole
countries, Catholic after Catholic after Catholic after
Catholic. And nobody's upset at him saying
this. This is nothing I don't
understand. They're just like he's saying
all this about Catholics murdering people's pets and
eating them and nobody says anything about it.
He is accusing literally 10s of thousands of Catholics of doing
this. Where's the Catholic Church?
Why isn't the Catholic Church standing up for itself saying
something about this? All we hear from the Pope now
are homophobic statements. It's like the Pope and his, I
think, been a pretty, you know, decent guy.
And now is this what happens? Just like they just get older.
Is this what's going to happen to all of us?
We're never going to be able to win a debate.
We're just going to start making homophobic statements at age 88
or 89. Where's the Pope on this?
Why isn't he standing up for the Catholics of Springfield?
Oh I, I know, see that. I get why Trump doesn't call
them Catholics. That's really what he's saying
calls them Haitians. And the majority of Haitians are
are Catholics. It's a Catholic country.
Or as the, as the saying goes, amongst Haitians we are 90%
Catholic, 10% Protestant and 100% voodoo.
That's an inside joke amongst Haitians.
But, but seriously, doesn't he? He calls them Haitians.
They are Haitians. They are, they're from a country
named Haiti. But you want to know something
that's older than Haiti? The friggin Catholic Church,
it's 2024 years old. That's what they are.
They're Catholics, French explorers and others who
kidnapped African people, brought them to Haiti, forced
them to be Catholics. They went along with it.
Otherwise they would be killed or hung or raped or well, they
did all those things too, but they still had to be Catholic.
Then they were Catholic. And within a generation or two,
everybody's speaking French, everybody's speaking Catholic
stuff, Dominus hobiskum. And so it's a Catholic country
just like the majority of people throughout all of South America,
Central America, large part of North America, we call Mexico,
but also a large part of the United States.
Isn't it odd you're running for president of the United States?
And if you go down and look at the list of all the I'm not, I'm
not going to group the Protestants all into 11
religion, OK, there, there's Baptists, there's Methodists,
there's Presbyterians, there's Episcopalians, there's I'm sorry
if I left out one of your Protestant groups, but
basically, you know who you are, OK?
Those are all the different Protestant religions.
But then the Catholic religion, see, we don't.
We don't. I mean, yes, there's the Greek
Orthodox, there's a, you know, sects of Catholics, but
basically it's just one church. That's Catholic Church
headquarters are in Rome and a little country inside Rome
called the Vatican. OK.
And the number one religion in the United States is Catholic.
It's something like, you know, there's 40 million Catholics in
this country or there's 40%. I get it all mixed up because
I'm mostly, you know, from Irish Catholic parents, grandparents,
great grandparents, a little bit of Scottish in there, you know,
the real rebels, right? All right, whatever, we'll
figure this out, whether it's 40% or 40 million or how about
this? I know that there's close to 40
million Irish and, and I think over 60 million Catholics in the
US. It's certainly the largest of
the Christian groups and I don't think there's any other groups,
right? Hindus, Buddhists, right, our
our Jewish brothers and sisters make up.
Maybe, I don't know, 1 1/2, two percent, 2 1/2.
Muslims are one, 1 1/2 maybe. You know what, Let's just take a
quick break. I want to thank the underwriter
and I'll come back with the with the correct stats.
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OK, now did we get those stats? OK, we've got the stats and OK,
now that now they're saying Catholics is still number one,
that's right, more Catholics than Baptist, right, 20. 8%.
Responded not oh wow. So that is what I read that for
the first time ever. So if you go down and you see
like, here's the percentage of Americans that are Catholic,
here's the percentage that are Baptist, here's the percentage
that is Jewish, Muslim. The one number that's even now
more than Catholics are the people who mark none anyways.
OK, So what we've got folks, is don't hold me to any of this
because we're looking this up while we're doing an underwriter
spot. But there are at least 60
million Catholics in this country.
If you're running for president, why would you attack the
majority religion? Again, not a majority, it's a
it's a plurality. There's no one religion that's
51% of the country, unless you want to just say Christianity.
But even that the all the new statistics I've been seeing
about how for the first time ever, the more than 50% of the
American people do not go to a church every week, or a
synagogue or or a mosque or a temple.
Could just be people are starting to think, ask
questions, wonder, magic, fairy tales, kinds of stories we liked
as kids. I know.
Wasn't it great being a kid? Do you remember what it was like
when you were seven or eight? Oh, my God.
And you remember what it was like, especially if you had an
older brother or sister and you did not want to be told a
certain thing about a certain guy with a beard in December
that your older brother or sister just can't wait to tell
you isn't true. And you're like, what?
Why you say Mom? Billy said.
It's not true, no, no. We look fairy tales, stories,
mythical characters, magic, magic hacks.
What if Father Guido Sarducci used to say that?
The Vatican says in order to be made a St. there has to be proof
of like what, 3 miracles? Remember Father Guido Sarducci
on Saturday Night Live? He was the resident priest on
their weekend update and he was really pushing for changing it
from three miracles to 1 miracle and two card tricks.
Just one miracle was committed in their name and somebody could
do two really good card tricks and and pull people at the
table. That should be enough to be a
St. But I mean that's that this is,
you know, I mean, it's a religion I grew up in and, you
know, I was baptized in and confirmed in and in my teen
years went to the seminary to study to be a priest.
I think I probably told you this before.
I mean, I was very inspired by the Berrigan brothers.
They were these two Catholic priests that were big leaders in
the anti war movement against Vietnam and a great admirer,
Cesar Chavez, the the Hispanic leader of the farm, head of the
farm workers, the pickers out mostly out in California through
all these very inspiring Catholics.
You know, when I was a a tween and a teen and or maybe I was
just looking for some inspiration because there were
so many others that were that were for the war and for Nixon
and for all this other stuff. And it was just like, but we
could always, we could always find a hippie priest.
Back in the day, they used to have like 2 priests per church.
And so you go to confession on Saturdays and both priests would
be there in their little booths to hear your confession.
And you know, we figured out very quickly because we had to
start confessing our sins when we were in second grade because,
you know, by then you're huge sinners.
You know, it's like a burn in hell.
Actually, my, my sister just walked in here.
What were the what were what were the big sins when we were
in second grade? What was our what were the what
huh. Lying?
Were we lying that early in second grade?
What would be a lie that Well, not you of course, no, but for
like a 7 year old, what would be a big lie that we would have to
burn in hell for as you can't think of any because you,
because you didn't lie. That is true by the way.
You did not lie. You were good and decent and the
nuns loved you. Except by the time you're the
youngest of us. So by the time you were in
Catholic school, there were hardly any nuns loved.
Disrespecting your. Parents disrespecting.
I don't even remember the word respect.
Obey, that was. Mine.
Was disrespecting disobeyed? And disrespected my parents.
So when you went to confession, you got down on your knees and
you told the priest, I have disrespected my parents three
times and disobeyed them 10 times.
Not that I know. I upped it a little bit there,
just trying to put you up with my other sister and myself.
But I mean, I, I, so, yeah, no, we were all raised Catholic and,
and actually we did have a number of really good nuns,
radical nuns actually. And we had the hippie priest.
You have the hippie priest and then you have the old school
priest. And that was the point I was
making is that when it's time to go to confession, you had to
stay. There was just one line and the,
you know, every other one would go, but you, you don't know how
long the green or the red light, the red light would stay on you.
There was a real Sinner in there having to confess to a lot of
sins, whereas sometimes the light would go off so quick.
And it's like, oh, I don't want to go into that.
To the strict priest, the old priest.
It's going to make me say 10 rosaries as of my penance.
You try to get the hippie priest.
The hippie priest, you go in there, you tell him your sins.
And then at the end he'd say, so do you think you could be cut
here to your parents? And you say yes.
And and then he'd say, and you think maybe you shouldn't have
taken that Tootsie roll from the five and dime.
And you go, no, I know I shouldn't have, but I'm, that's
why I'm confessing it here. And then he'd say, OK, well, I
absolve your sins in the name of the Father and the Son and the
Holy Spirit, Amen. And and just go have a nice day.
The hippie priest was great. There was no penance.
You just walked out of there
like, wow, I don't have to go do good deeds.
I don't have to say rosaries. I don't have to get down on my
knees for an hour, hold my arms out like Jesus had to on the
cross and not put them down. I didn't have to do any of that
stuff. You get the old priest trouble,
nothing but trouble. So that was, that was the
Catholic Church we we grew up in and, and I think all three of us
right, have been kind of recovering ever since what they
call recovering Catholics. You know, although recovery does
imply that maybe you want to recover, which I'm going to put
it out there that perhaps you and our other sister not so much
interested in that anymore. I'm.
Not so sure I was ever interested in all the stories
they. Told the stories they told me
walking on water, virgin, virgin birth, all that.
So how old were you when you first questioned that maybe some
of this maybe wasn't, you know, quite right second. 3rd grade.
That early 2nd and 3rd grade you started questioning.
Priest and nun. All right, so in other words,
when I was I put a towel on my on my back, like on top, like a
like a priest vest vestment thing.
And I would say mass in the house with little like wonder
bread mashed up right and some grape juice for the wine.
Other sister was my altar girl. No.
She was a. Nun.
Well, she was a nun, OK? Yeah, 'cause she had to have
some sort of equal status to my priesthood.
You know why that is her? What were you doing?
Oh, you had to be a perscher in the Pew.
And what did I put the host Wonder Bread on your tongue and
then you take some grape juice? Were you, like, rolling your
eyes, thinking, what am I doing here?
Who are these two? Why we were doing it.
OK, but here's the part. So you but I don't get this in
second or third grade, you're actually questioning the
precepts of the Catholic Church and that at that age.
And yet and yet here we are tonight, like in an hour, you
can't wait for the 19th season of Grey's Anatomy to begin.
And and 5 minutes into Grey's Anatomy, you're going to be
believing that whole story is true in the hospital.
Oh, you're going to give us a critique now, Grey's Anatomy.
Maybe it's been on TVA little bit too long.
Unbelievable. All right, well, folks, you're
listening to this. You can see what the problem is
that that, but it's a good. But you know, let's say, let's
say maybe that's a good thing because we are of all the
religions, we do seem to have the most like frustrated and
questioning group of people, right?
Where like we watched some of the Protestant religions or
they're, they're, they just accept this whole thing and then
and then twisted into anti women, twisted sometimes into
racism, sometimes into. I mean, that's not saying the
Catholics weren't that too, but I'm just like, I don't know.
I just, I seem to run into more and more of us who are raised
Catholic and who are are just huge questioners of everything.
And I think that's a good thing. I I think that's a that's a
positive thing. But but how is it that all these
groups that Trump attacks are Catholics?
Why? I mean, seriously, if he started
attacking, I mean, just pick any group that was like, say mostly
Baptist. What if he just started saying
like, you know, the majority of people in Skokie, IL, you know,
it's a big Jewish suburb of Chicago.
What if he just started saying? And Ali, and he knew and he'd be
smart enough not to say Jews, right?
So he'd say, you know, Skokie, you better keep your pets inside
because these people, these Skokie people are eating cats
and dogs. I mean, wouldn't there be like
an uproar about this, you know, or if he focused on a, a Jewish
neighborhood in New York, you know, or, you know, just pick
any other group and he starts going after them.
People wouldn't stand for it. I hope they wouldn't stand for
it. I hope people would speak up.
But somehow with, with the Haitians, with the Mexicans,
with the Venezuelans, with the Hondurans, the Salvadorans, the
Guatemalans, Catholic, Catholic, Catholic, Catholic, Catholic.
And nobody on the news ever says, well, former President
Trump today went after more Catholics in the United States
or in Central America or wherever, right?
Nobody ever says that. Just like did you ever hear them
say that a multimillionaire organized the flying of four
planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and, and
the one that dropped into the field in Pennsylvania never said
it was caused by a multimillionaire.
Osama bin Laden was a multimillionaire.
What do they say that he had from his, you know, one of the
wealthiest family in Saudi Arabia that was not a part of
the royal family, $27 million, something like that.
This always gets me to when millionaires commit crimes, they
never say, you know, if it's somebody from the South Bronx,
from Harlem, from South Central Detroit, they always make sure
that, you know, code where the criminal is from.
But when they murder 3000 people on on 9/11, all of a sudden
it'll be it'll be religion, it'll be race.
It'll never be class. It'll never be a
multimillionaire today organized the flying of three jumbo jets
into buildings and killed 3000 people.
Remember the guy the, the guy that went to the top of the
Mandalay Hotel, He got a room at the on the top floor in Las
Vegas, goes up, He's got all these machine guns and automatic
weapons, goes up there, knocks the windows out and there's a
concert, there's a country concert going on down below with
20,000 people and he just starts firing these automatic weapons
into the crowd. Hundreds of people are hit by
these bullets. I think the actual number of
dead maybe was in the 60s, but still, I mean, it was still now
the largest mass shooting in this country and he's up there
firing away multimillionaire. He was like one of those high
end gamblers and a multimillionaire.
And they again, the headline the next day was not
multimillionaire shoots hundreds of people from the top of the
Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas. Why not what?
Tell me what part of that isn't true.
If it's the truth and if it's a fact, why don't we ever hear it
said when? And I'm not those are I'm just I
just gave you 2 examples. There are other examples of
millionaires who've done mass slaughters like this who who
have enough assets that would equal $1,000,000 to make them a
millionaire. And it's never said.
And now Trump thinks he's getting away with it, that going
after the Catholics by calling them Haitians and Mexicans and
Venezuelans. But the truth is they're
Catholics. And I want to know where the
outrage is from the Catholic Church, from the Bishops
Association, from just Catholics in general.
Again, more Catholics in this country than any of the other
Protestant religions or any of the other religions, Muslims,
Jews, Buddhists, Hindus. And what makes him think that he
could just do this, that he could just go after Catholics
like this and know that the Catholics will not resist, will
not stand up and say anything? Well, I guess we should take
offense at many things that Trump and Vance say.
It's absolutely outrageous. I just find it curious that then
this one little thing that they don't point this out.
Because I do think if it were other groups, somebody would
say, why is he attacking these Jews?
Why is he attacking these Baptists?
I know what you're thinking, Mike.
We got bigger problems tonight. Yeah, I don't know.
I just sometimes I'm just sitting and wondering.
And I'm also worried that that as strongly as I believe that
Kamala Harris will be our next president and that Trump will be
sent, sent away by the voters, all of us, I think, are afraid
to say or to sound so sure of ourselves because every time
we've been so sure of ourselves about Trump, he pulls it off.
He gets away with it. And the chance of that happening
again, well, is there a chance? Yes.
Do I think it's going to happen? No.
But that shouldn't stop any of us from working our butts off
from now until November 5th to make sure it doesn't happen.
And yes, I know I hear from all of you who have your problems
with Vice President Harris, especially when it comes to this
war in Gaza. And, but I think she's also been
very clear too about where her heart is.
She is the underling, the employee of the president as the
vice president. And so she holds 0 power.
She can do absolutely nothing other than speak to him and tell
him what she thinks. And I'm I've been holding out
some hope that that's what's been going on.
And yet the murder, the murders continue, the slaughter
continues. What I know is that we cannot
allow Donald Trump to ever step foot on the property known as
1600 Pennsylvania Ave. And we'll have to deal with
whatever we have to deal with. And one of the first things we
could do is, is to create for some weird, bizarre reason that
Trump gets back in there, that we set up the blue wall in
Congress, that the Democrats have strong control over the
House and the Senate so that Trump will never be able to pass
anything. So if you're looking for
something to do for this election and you believe as I
do, that maybe this thing is over for Trump or you have other
problems, get the House of the Senate back in the hands of
Democrats who have our values, who believe in the things that
we have. And if they don't quite believe
it, especially when it comes to something like Israel and
Palestine, then, well, then that means we've got work to do.
Stop complaining, do the work. Let your voice be heard.
We're the majority, folks. The majority of us want an end
of the slaughter. We want a ceasefire.
We don't support Benjamin Netanyahu one single bit.
So let's do what we've got to do.
No more complaining. We've got a little bit more than
five weeks before the election, and this is not the time to be
sitting around doing nothing, saying nothing.
This is the time to line up your plan right now.
Who are the people that your life, friends, family, Co
workers, that you're going to make sure they vote, that they
vote the right way on Election Day?
Get them to the polls, do early voting.
It's already started. We really have to rock the Cavs
by here, my friends. It's like, well, I don't need to
repeat it. You know, we don't have a
choice. Well, I'm going to go smash some
more Wonder Bread into little white hosts.
Get out some grape juice. My sister is visiting here.
All you good Catholics out here who heard her questioning which
is the biggest of all the fairy tales?
Which is the biggest one? The Walking on water part no.
Noah's. Ark Noah's Ark that right away
that as I believe you though I knew you as I knew you as a
second grader. No, no, no.
That had to like 2 animals of every animal on one boat.
Did not make sense. It didn't make sense how?
Did they get the giraffe and the like?
A coyote from here and a giraffe.
How'd they get a coyote from the canyons of LA to Noah's Ark
somewhere in the north of Turkey or whatever?
Yeah. Wow.
You were a deep thinker in second grade.
Do you think that that your questionings that early resulted
in the fact that of the three of us kids, you had the highest
grade point average in high school?
All right, my friends, that's it for tonight.
In nominee Zapatalis Sifilios spiritus Santos and a little bit
of Curie. Curie le Song and Santos Santos,
Agnus de confidio de Omnipotenti by a Yeah, I could.
I I could do the whole thing in Latin for you.
I know, I know. Once it's in you, it never
leaves. Well, no matter what religion
you are or if you're not at all. Thanks for listening.
Let's do our work. Our work is cut out for us,
that's for sure my friends. And let's stop all hate.
I love the fact this week that the Haitian civil rights group
went to the City Hall in Springfield to press criminal
charges against Trump and Vance. Not hate, civil rights type
charges, criminal charges against them for how they have
put the lives in jeopardy of Haitian people in Springfield.
OH, Catholics. What's your favorite movie about
grown up Catholic? Was it the singing nun?
Did you like the singing nun? Angie, let's just head out on
this. We'll, we'll leave people a
little bit of the Singing Nun in honor of my sister visiting here
from California. Take care everyone.
Much love. This is Michael Moore, this is
my podcast, and this is the Singing Nun.
Lock up your pets. I will tell of Dominique his
goodness to our claim, and I pray the song I sing will some
simple pleasure bring, that the world shall know his name.
I will tell of Dominique as I sing this little song, and when
I sing the chorus all the world will sing along.
Dominique Anikanica. It was good, St.
Dominique, He lived for you and me.
From the laborers long ago came a better world I know, and his
love shall always be, though I'm poor, said Dominique as he spoke
unto the Lord. I will be your humble servant
and your love is my reward. Dominique and Ikanika, I will
follow. Dominique, His burdens will I
share, for his courage will I pray His teachings to obey His
words shall be my prayer. By the kindness of his heart and
the labour of his hand, he brought love and understanding
as he wandered through the land. Dominique and Ikanika I will
tell the Dominique his goodness to acclaim and I pray the song I
sing will some simple pleasure bring.
All the world shall know his name.
Dominique the mighty warrior was a soldier of the Lord.
His armour was devotion and the gospel was his soul.
Dominique, it was good. St.
Dominique, he live for you and me.
From his labours long ago came a better world.
I know, and his love shall always be.
Through the blazing heat of summer and the chill of winter
snow, I will follow Dominique in his footsteps.
I will go Dominique and Nique and Nique go.
I will follow Dominique. His burdens will I share, for
his courage will I pray. His teachings to obey His words
shall be my friend. Yeah.