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Hello everyone. 
This is Michael Moore. 

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This is my podcast. 
Welcome. 

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Thank you for joining me again. 
It's the week of May 6th, 2024, 

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and this week we're doing sort 
of a deep dive into the student 

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protest on campuses across the 
country. 

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Anti war protest, anti genocide.
Pro Palestinian. 

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They're called many names. 
So on Monday on episode one, we 

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visited the campus of City 
College of New York, where there

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were students from all the City 
University and City College 

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campuses in the city of New York
gathered into one large 

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encampment. 
And we went there just to take 

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our microphones and give voice 
to the students there instead of

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all the pundits and everybody 
else, telling us what they stand

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for and what they think and what
they're doing. 

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And all the mischaracterizations
that immediately become apparent

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once you enter their protest. 
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how nonviolent it is, how much 
the students care about what's 

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going on in the world, how much 
they stand for peace, I mean. 

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But you wouldn't know that to to
read or to watch TVA. 

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Lot of the commentary trashing, 
smearing these young people or 

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their outside agitators, which 
means people of the community, 

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people who pay taxes, people who
are raising their kids. 

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People live in the neighborhood 
and want to stop by and support 

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the students somehow. 
The new thing now, especially 

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with the mayor of New York, is 
these are outside agitators. 

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The students just ignore all 
that. 

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They welcome everybody to come 
and join them. 

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They're very smart about how 
they've organized all this and 

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they won't stop. 
The police come in, they tear 

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down their encampments. 
Within a day or so, the 

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encampments are either back up 
or they move to another location

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and then it only grows. 
Instead of it just being a few 

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dozen students, it turns into 
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Because young people generally 
don't like war and they don't 

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like their government backing 
another warring nation that is 

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going in and slaughtering 
civilians, children, women, the 

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elderly. 
When I read some of this mail I 

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get after saying things like 
that, Well, what about how come 

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you don't say anything about 
what happened on October 7th and

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said that's all I did was talk 
about that anytime I went on TVI

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asked the host. 
I'm on live TV, on CNN, on 

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MSNBC, and I ask if we could we 
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about this, have a moment of 
silence to remember those who 

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were slaughtered on October 7th,
those who lost their lives in 

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Israel. 
And you know, I can just hear 

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the control room going, Oh no, 
with dead air. 

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But I didn't care. 
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to talk about any of this, we 
needed to honor and respect 

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those who lost their lives on 
October 7th. 

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It didn't seem to matter though,
because the first minute I would

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say anything critical of 
Netanyahu or what they were 

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planning to do didn't matter 
that I cared about those who 

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died in Israel on October 7th. 
The sort of the rush of such 

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anger, the vitriol. 
You are not to be critical. 

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You are every 45 seconds 
supposed to mention the 

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hostages. 
It didn't matter how much I 

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mentioned the hostages. 
Of course all the hostages 

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should be released, period, 
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I subscribe now to three Israeli
newspapers, the English language

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version of them. 
It's been amazing to read the 

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Israeli press. 
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of what's going on over there. 
You get investigative reporting.

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You have a a vibrant press there
that has No Fear of going after 

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the Prime Minister, of going 
after all the lies that the 

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people of Israel are being told 
by their own government. 

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It's just, it's just amazing. 
I'm just so upset at the way the

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news is portraying these 
protests and a lot of it, I'm. 

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I'm just counting all the kind 
of boomer stuff where, you know,

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I guess all the older 
generations, I guess our parents

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did this, you know, look down on
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because we don't maybe have it 
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maybe we're not that mature, 
maybe we shout out dumb stuff. 

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I don't, you know, I don't know.
I guess our parents did that to 

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us and we just didn't pay any 
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But what's being said about 
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are there to support the young 
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the it's just been friggin 
annoying and I hate lying and 

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there's so much PR and so much 
lying going on about these 

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protests and who the protesters 
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I don't even want to answer some
of the things that the names 

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that they're being called 
because they stand for 

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Palestinians. 
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essentially turned the 
microphones over to the 

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students. 
And you got to hear in their own

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words why they were protesting, 
what they stand for, what they 

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hope to accomplish. 
You saw and heard that these 

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protests are filled with all 
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It's very diverse. 
Black, brown, Asian, white kids,

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Jews and Arabs, Muslims, 
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atheists, America. 
And of course it's it's very 

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moving to see how many Jewish 
students are at what are called 

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the pro Palestine 
demonstrations, A Jewish Voice 

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for Peace, the student Jewish 
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It's very moving and you're not 
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being told that Jewish and 
Muslim students are working 

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together on this anti war 
campaign to stop Biden from 

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sending money and arms to 
Netanyahu. 

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So that's what we did on on 
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If you haven't listened to that 
podcast, please go back. 

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I I I have a link for it here on
the page. 

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If you are looking at the page. 
If you're not, just go to 

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michaelmoore.com and listen to 
Monday's podcast. 

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It's the voices of the students 
in today's episode, today's 

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podcast. 
We're now going to move ahead a 

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few hours on that on that day. 
So this is now What you're going

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to listen to takes place on the 
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April. 
We were there on the campus of 

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the City College, which is City 
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that's up on like 138th, about 
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University. 
And So what you heard on Monday,

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obviously very peaceful, very 
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And within just a few hours, all
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Not from the students. 
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They were settling down for the 
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New York City Police Department 
shows up and starts to attack 

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the students, starts to try to 
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And they did the same thing too 
a few blocks down at at Columbia

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University. 
So what you're going to hear now

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for the next 20 minutes or so is
the police try to disrupt a 

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peaceful demonstration. 
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no harm or injury being caused 
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Protesters weren't doing any of 
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They weren't prohibiting classes
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They weren't. 
They were just, they were loud 

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and there were many of them. 
And so a massive, massive police

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force showed up, started doing 
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students who did not fight back,
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or anything against the police. 
They were angry and there was a 

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lot of shouting. 
They were doing what students 

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do, especially students who are 
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believe that their voice should 
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So that that's what I'm going to
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This is, this is a lot of this 
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Donald who have been working 
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years. 
And so you'll hear their voices,

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mostly Angie. 
So I'm going to just kind of 

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turn it over to them And and you
can hear what maybe you didn't 

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get to see on TV or elsewhere, 
what it was like to be caught in

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the middle of a what honestly 
felt like like you had been just

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transported to a police state 
and you hadn't done anything 

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wrong other than voice your 
opposition to this insane, 

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madding, illegal, immoral war 
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American people. 
So I'm gonna roll the tape right

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now and you can hear first hand 
what that experience was like 

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and then I'll come back and and 
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end of it. 
You're standing outside the 

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gates of City College here in 
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It's all blocked off so you 
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There's police everywhere, but 
there's also a massive crowd, as

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you can hear rallying outside 
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There's about 11:50 students on 
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are leading these chances. 
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students and community members 
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in support of the students 
inside that are presumably being

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arrested right now. 
What has gone out that the cops 

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have swept the encampment? 
See some students over on the 

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other side that Donald and I 
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earlier today. 
I'm going to go see if they'll 

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talk to me, tell me what's going
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Day six of the CUNY Gaza 
Solidarity Encampment. 

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We have been here holding City 
College of New York in Harlem as

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students and workers and faculty
from almost every one of the 25 

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CUNY campuses. 
We are part of more than 40 

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campus encampments across the 
country and across the world and

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on every continent. 
And our demands are so simple. 

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We want an end to university 
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It has been 207 days of genocide
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Over 40,000 Palestinians are 
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Our universities are investing 
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my people and we are saying that
our universities must divest and

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that is why we are holding these
encampments and this brutality 

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that we are seeing here. 
We have reports of injuries, of 

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arrests, of students with bones 
broken, of people with their 

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teeth broken. 
There are so many injuries here.

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The brutality that is being 
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who are demanding an end to a 
genocide is unconscionable. 

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It is absolutely unconscionable.
Our demands are simple. 

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We asked for divestment and 
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We asked for the 
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And instead of demilitarization,
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full force not only on CCNY 
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We have seen them be unleashed 
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We are seeing them unleashed on 
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We are fighting for liberation. 
We want liberation and every 

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single one of these university 
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side of history. 
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NYPD, KKK, IOF. 
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I'm a student at CUNY School of 
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I'm involved with the CUNY Gaza 
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We're here right now outside the
gates of City College, where 

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there's been an exponential 
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enforcement response. 
I've been here in and out of the

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encampment since the minute that
we launched, and we haven't seen

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a law enforcement response that 
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in the almost week that we've 
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They waited days without 
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brutalization of student 
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And so it was clear that today 
the way that they've responded. 

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Was a policy choice. 
I'm seeing a lot more police 

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vehicles approaching buses as 
students chant NYPD out of CUNY 

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now. 
They're going. 

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To kettle people, they're. 
Going to kettle, people. 

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Someone's just walking through 
saying the police are kettling. 

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If if a cops have an area 
kettle, that means completely 

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surrounded. 
As I look around I see I see 

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cops on all sides. 
They just keep kind of 

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assembling of someone's calling 
for a mic check 

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in case you couldn't hear. 
That news just broke to the 

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crowd that NYU students have put
their tents back up after they 

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were taken down, NYU students 
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everybody is cheering, OK? 
There's a whole group of of cops

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that are moving on to the 
sidewalk. 

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The. 
Police loudspeaker is telling 

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the crowd they're unlawfully 
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the sidewalk and risk being 
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God cops just charged into the 
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The protesters are trying to 
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get back up and the cops just 
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Pushing and pushing. 
Forward, the police appeared. 

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Half the sidewalk and the 
students now are kind of pushed 

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to one side against the gate. 
They're all linking arms and not

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moving, and now they're calling 
for all white allies to make 

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their way to the front, to make 
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line. 
It's against the gate. 

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We need you on the. 
Now. 

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Since you have refused to 
disperse, you will be placed 

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under arrest on the charge of 
disorderly conduct. 

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Students are now getting 
arrested. 

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You wake up every morning, 
children, and now you're still. 

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Going. 
To do more. 

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Like seriously, 
how do you sleep at night? 

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Let's go. 
Let's go. 

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Are you peddling? 
Show 

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me how I get out. 
The cops are kind of picking off

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protesters and arresting them. 
The cops have a student pushed 

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against the side of a vehicle. 
He's asking what did I do? 

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What did I do? 
He's pushing back to Createspace

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between himself and the car as 
they're trying to get the zip 

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ties on to arrest him. 
You're going to kill somebody. 

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You're about to kill him. 
Why do you have his neck down 

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like? 
They have the zip ties on. 

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They're leading him now to the 
police bus. 

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An officer just instructed the 
other cops to take these bodies.

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Cops are pushing back. 
Now they're pushing everybody 

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back. 
Open up the sidewalk. 

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Open 
up the sidewalk. 

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Yeah. 
And if he is, we'll take his 

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press pass. 
I heard you, you bitch ass. 

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I heard you try to whisper that 
you think I didn't hear you. 

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Oh, oh, oh. 
Now you're making a face because

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you're going to illegally take 
my press badge. 

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For what reason? 
Oh, oh, you got real quiet right

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now. 
Tell us what's going on. 

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There's a student having an 
asthma attack. 

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They've pulled her off to the 
side, They've gotten her an 

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inhaler. 
They're asking the cops, please 

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call an ambulance. 
And the cops are just standing 

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there, not doing it now. 
Now they're all turning around 

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and just leaving. 
Can you tell me what brings you 

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here today? 
Yeah, my son is in the 

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encampment currently being 
arrested, so it so it would 

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seem. 
How long has he been there? 

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Four days? 
Oh, you know what? 

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My phone's ringing, so just give
me one second. 

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Yeah. 
Oh, that's my son. 

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Hang on. 
Oh, wait, that's our son. 

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Hold on. 
Oh, shit. 

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I just missed it. 
Wait, can I hear? 

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Can I hear? 
Speak up. 

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Hey, honey. 
Oh, my God. 

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It's OK. 
He hung up quickly, so it might 

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have been that. 
They we told him to call if he's

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getting arrested. 
So we think he's getting 

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arrested now. 
Fuck. 

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Well, maybe they're leaving you 
a message. 

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Hold on. 
Let me check my phone. 

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I didn't hear my phone ringing. 
Let me try to call. 

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Try to keep calling them. 
It's mom. 

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Could you please tell me or pick
up the phone? 

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Or call me or daddy? 
You just missed your call. 

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You said you were going to call 
if you were getting arrested. 

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So we are pretty sure to what's 
happening right now. 

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Do you know if they took out the
kid? 

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You got any encampment? 
They're going in now to rest. 

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Oh, they're going in now to 
rest. 

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We don't have enough people to 
watch. 

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Be careful, they might pepper 
spray they. 

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Have been pepper spraying 
pressed. 

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They did pepper spray pasta side
as well. 

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What has your communication with
them been like? 

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Pretty regular up until 5 
minutes ago. 

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I'm expecting that he'll be 
marched out pretty soon. 

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So, and we're standing here at 
the police barricade where 

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they're taking students out of 
the university. 

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We. 
We were at the encampment the 

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past two days. 
And things. 

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Were really peaceful. 
Yes, the. 

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Students were really inspiring 
and smart. 

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And yeah, yeah, definitely. 
Everything about the encampment 

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was. 
Kindness. 

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Absolutely. 
That I've seen tonight. 

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No, no, no, no. 
NYPD is treating them really 

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poorly. 
You see, they're marching in 

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like stormtroopers, You know, 
these are kids. 

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This is like, you know, this is 
like the community's children 

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here that they're treating like 
criminals, you know? 

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So it's it's terrible, you know,
I'm just going to step over 

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there and see, but feel free to,
I'll, I'll come back to you. 

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He's trying to talk to the 
police officers about what's 

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happening inside the gates. 
He won't answer any questions. 

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I got, I got to remember, we 
can't answer questions. 

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I'm sorry about that. 
But but I'm saying you don't 

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have to answer it. 
But but I'm sure some of you 

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guys got kids, right? 
They're probably in college, 

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maybe even in the kids. 
My kids have been sitting 

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peaceful and now they're 
undergoing all intimidation and 

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sitting. 
On come on, you know. 

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Did you ever get a hold of your 
son? 

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Did you see him? 
I haven't seen him yet. 

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Unless I saw somebody that was 
kind of cloaked, you know? 

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I mean, it's hard to tell 
through all the people, but so 

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it's possible he might have come
through, but I'm not sure. 

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This can't be everyone. 
I think there's more people. 

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There incredible waste of tax 
dollars, you know? 

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Yeah, it's. 
True. 

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So we're paying taxes for money 
for Israel and money for this. 

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Does anyone in this slide need 
jail support? 

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Anyone need jail support? 
Give us your name or your 

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contact number. 
Did you get any info? 

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No. 
He kicked my foot. 

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I said you just, like kicked my 
foot back. 

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He's like, I didn't touch you. 
I might have my body Cam. 

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I said your body Cam didn't 
register you kicking my foot 

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back to the sidewalk. 
You put your, your, your body on

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my body. 
I just want that for the record 

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and and if it was an accident, 
just say I'm sorry. 

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It's like they want you to go 
after them. 

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And I said I'm a peaceful 
person, I'm not going to touch 

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anybody. 
I calmly talk about things. 

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So literally that's assault, you
know what I mean? 

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It didn't hurt, but I'm saying 
it's like rude. 

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It's like that's how the 
escalation starts and. 

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Especially, to be clear, there's
nobody. 

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Around. 
I'm looking to see because. 

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See the kid right there? 
He looks just like my son. 

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Are you still on a second? 
Oh, you saw? 

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OK, he looks exactly like that 
kid, though he might still be in

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there. 
Is that a possibility that there

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are still people in there? 
Well, just for bringing more 

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people out like. 
Oh, they're bringing more people

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out now. 
Where are they walking in down 

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here. 
Unbelievable. 

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These kids are doing nothing but
peacefully protesting. 

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And they go here they're. 
All day today. 

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00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,680
Yeah, all day. 
They're peaceful. 

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00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Yes, it's so peaceful, They. 
Haven't put in daycare where 

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they're singing. 
Sing alongs. 

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00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And they were arresting people, 

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00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,840
what with the kids there? 
The kids were there during the 

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00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,840
arrest. 
She was actually. 

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Oh, you know who you talked to 
here. 

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00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,560
Wait a minute. 
Where'd she go? 

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Over here. 
Did you say that they were 

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resting with the kids? 
This is what was. 

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Happening. 
I was inside and I saw a bunch 

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of student protesters because 
cops had blocked off this 

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entrance going to our Willie 
administration building where 

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President Boudreaux typically 
resides. 

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They were going there and that's
when they were masked pepper 

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sprayed. 
When I saw that happening, I was

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already helping a mother who's 
distressed and she couldn't find

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her daughter. 
She had a small baby in a 

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stroller, so I immediately got 
them blankets, gloves and masks 

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in case pepper spray would come 
to us. 

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I guided them out along with 
another mother who also had a 

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baby in a stroller for at first.
When I first got the mother, 

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there were two kids that came 
running and I usually see them 

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all around camp and they were 
crying because they couldn't 

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find their mother. 
So I was like, all of the kids 

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need to be as far away from the 
encampment inside as they can 

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because at this point police 
have already blocked off 

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entries. 
We tried to exit one way we we 

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couldn't. 
Police had blocked off the 

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entries. 
So I'm just gathering them here.

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And I'm making sure the mother 
is not going in the encampment, 

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not taking her babies. 
And it was so hard to get them 

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out because they were worried 
about their daughters. 

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And then once we marched, we 
marched on one side. 

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I can't remember the name of the
entrance. 

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It was this is the knack. 
It was on this side. 

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There were fences barricading 
us. 

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I talked to the cop. 
I tried to humanize. 

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I tried to say they just want to
leave. 

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They're scared. 
It's loud here. 

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He didn't care. 
Then next step was. 

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Will one of you please come with
us to the other side? 

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It imagine this block and a 
whole other side. 

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Will you at least come and 
assist us so we know nothing 

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will happen to these kids? 
He refused. 

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00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,800
He refused multiple times, his 
forcers next to him. 

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The people refused. 
We walked to the other side. 

402
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,560
There are fences there with 
officers who are barricading 

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them and more coming in wearing 
riot gear and Sr. 

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GS. 
So at this point I'm trying to 

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get them out as safely as I can.
I have my hands in the air and 

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I'm saying these are just 
children. 

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00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,280
So what they do is they open the
fence and they start yanking 

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people inside, pushing people 
inside, including the kids. 

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00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440
They couldn't care less about 
kids and babies in strollers. 

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00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,360
Actually, they're pushing them 
all outside. 

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00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,560
And then finally they were safe.
And yeah, it was really 

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traumatizing. 
The kids were shaking. 

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I was trying to do deep breaths 
Recently, 30 minutes ago, we had

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someone have an asthma attack. 
As police were marching behind 

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us, I had to put my hands in the
air with other people to stop 

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them, help the person having an 
asthma attack. 

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00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,440
We yelled, can you call an 
ambulance? 

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Can you please call an 
ambulance? 

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00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,920
And they refused. 
They didn't even acknowledge 

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that. 
Some of them chuckled. 

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00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,920
Literally ran away. 
Some of them chuckled. 

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00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,520
The others, actually, after that
warehouse helping her breathe, 

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we were getting inhalers, water.
They turned the other way. 

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00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,680
They turned their backs on us 
while I'm yelling at their 

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backs. 
Can you call an ambulance for 

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us? 
And they refuse. 

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00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,040
Shortly after, finally an 
ambulance was called, and then 

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she was in there safely. 
Now, if there were other kids in

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that encampment and I didn't 
know about it because I was 

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gathering as much as I could, we
don't know what would happen 

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00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,160
because these cops are walking 
with batons in their hand, you 

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00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,600
chewing gum nonchalantly, and 
they're going in and brutalizing

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students, you know what I mean? 
So we wouldn't know what would 

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happen if there were other kids.
Thank God I noticed. 

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Thank God I got people to help 
me round up the kids. 

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Otherwise there would be two 
little children and a baby in a 

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stroller, another baby in a 
stroller, lost and not knowing 

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00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,280
what to do. 
So this is all through our 

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00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,120
community effort for a free 
Palestine. 

440
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,800
This is how we treat our people 
and this is how they treat us. 

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00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,120
They don't see us as them, they 
see us as the other. 

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00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,880
There's a power imbalance here, 
just as there is in Palestine 

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and Gaza. 
We really came down to provide 

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00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,720
support. 
We put, we have at least extra 

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00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,240
rain jackets for tonight, but 
they had a feeling that they 

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00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,600
were going to be kind of 
storming in tonight like they 

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00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,880
were. 
And they were figuring a way to 

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00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,800
be very peaceful and to get them
to just not to let them just. 

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00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,120
They're so peaceful. 
Yeah. 

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00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,680
And they're so brilliant and 
they're so smart and they're on 

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00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,680
the right side of this. 
You know the 1st. 

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Thing they said in a big 
meeting. 

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00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,160
They were like what we need to. 
Come up with protocol. 

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00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,720
Yes, how to. 
Protect all the people here. 

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00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,880
With disabilities. 
Yes, yes. 

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00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,400
How they can get get out 
exactly. 

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00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,200
They were raised right. 
They were ready to to defend 

458
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,920
people when Occupy Wall Street 
was going on. 

459
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680
We were supporting that and they
were coming with us to support 

460
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,840
that. 
So they were kind of raised to 

461
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,920
be a peaceful protester. 
You protested justices in the 

462
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,320
world, not just in your 
immediate little bubble. 

463
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920
It's a global situation and 
we're very enmeshed in this 

464
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,200
situation as a country. 
And it's so sad. 

465
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,880
It's so sad all of the ways. 
We have our tentacles, right? 

466
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Because we're colonizers too. 
We're colonizers too. 

467
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,720
We've committed genocide 
ourselves. 

468
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,360
Well, we're paying for this. 
One. 

469
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,720
And we're funding this genocide 
absolutely. 

470
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,080
Billions of dollars. 
Billions of dollars. 

471
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,200
So they're on the right side of 
this, you know, and I just can't

472
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:58,040
wait for this generation to be 
hopefully getting into these 

473
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,320
positions of power where they 
can actually change the world, 

474
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,320
you know, really change it. 
This is the generation that I 

475
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,240
think is going to save us or 
we're just going to keep 

476
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,000
destroying ourselves, you know, 
because this is pretty intense. 

477
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,200
So what's going on right now? 
Like, this is back there and 

478
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,720
from 1968. 
And we had a talk with our kids 

479
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,680
today. 
At first it was like, don't get 

480
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,960
arrested. 
Then it's like, you're getting 

481
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,840
arrested. 
Just be safe and don't get 

482
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,600
killed. 
You know, be smart. 

483
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,480
Oh, wait, it's not More people. 
Oh, they're going back in again.

484
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:35,560
You're going back in. 
Wow, that was really moving. 

485
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,600
Afterwards, we all got back 
together inside my apartment in 

486
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,960
New York. 
Went over everything that just 

487
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,320
happened. 
It was, it was pretty intense, 

488
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,240
pretty tense. 
And it was it felt really good. 

489
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,240
I think for everybody to stand 
with the students. 

490
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,440
I think it just, I think it was 
just so shocking to everyone. 

491
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,360
Maybe not so much to me because 
I mean I've, you know, first 

492
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,680
demonstrations I went to or 
during the Vietnam War. 

493
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,960
So nothing probably I hadn't 
seen before and I've seen much 

494
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,240
worse. 
I just have an overwhelming 

495
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320
sense of pride in our young 
people. 

496
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,480
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526
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Now let's get back to the 
students. 

527
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,000
I don't understand why fellow 
boomers are being so snide and 

528
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,960
snarky about them or, you know, 
telling them they're a bunch of 

529
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,960
idiots. 
They don't know what they're 

530
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,280
talking about. 
They don't understand the 

531
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,040
history. 
They don't. 

532
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,000
Jeez. 
You know what they understand is

533
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,720
right and wrong and the fact 
that they are not apathetic and 

534
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,000
they are not. 
They don't want to be silent. 

535
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,920
These are all very positive 
things and you may not agree 

536
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,760
with everything they say or do 
or whatever, but none the less, 

537
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160
they're not out there to hurt 
anybody. 

538
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,000
They've not hurt anybody. 
There's no police officer that 

539
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,400
was sent to the hospital. 
None of that. 

540
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:43,440
None of that, and yet they're 
ridiculed in the media, on the 

541
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,000
Internet. 
But I understand there are big 

542
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,160
stakes involved here, and sadly,
there are some people that can't

543
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,400
bring themselves to be critical 
of Benjamin Netanyahu and his 

544
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:01,720
regime, his war council. 
All I could do is just encourage

545
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,520
you to Get the facts, read the 
Israeli press, watch their TV. 

546
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,120
They do a very good job, a lot 
of them, of covering what's 

547
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,080
going on over there, stuff that 
we don't see on the nightly news

548
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,719
here. 
Thank you for listening. 

549
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,800
Thank you to Angela Vargos for 
being the executive producer of 

550
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,000
this podcast and the editor. 
Thank you to Donald Bornstein 

551
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,960
for going up there to the 
campuses. 

552
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,040
And a couple of other people, I 
think, who want to just remain 

553
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,120
anonymous because they they want
their jobs tomorrow. 

554
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,080
We'll be back in a few days with
part three, third episode of 

555
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,600
this week's podcast. 
And hopefully bring this 

556
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,679
together and hopefully share 
some good news. 

557
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,760
Thanks, everybody. 
Talk to you in a few days. 

558
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:19,920
I'm Michael Moore, 
the.

