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This is Rumble with Michael 
Moore and I'm Michael Moore. 

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Welcome everyone back in 
February shortly after 

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President, Biden was sworn in, I
was joined on Rumble. 

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By congresswoman Jackie, speier 
she's from California and she 

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has been spearheading the push 
in Congress to finally amend the

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US Constitution to enshrine Nine
equal rights for women. 

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Nowhere in our constitution do 
we talk about women? 

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Their equality doesn't exist. 
We just celebrated on July 4th 

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the 245th birthday of this 
country and we are still having 

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a problem saying the word women,
when we talk about our 

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constitutional rights, well, The
struggle, which, which I have 

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just pointed out, has been 
ongoing for the past Century, 

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but in the last few years, so 
much progress has been made, 

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Virginia became the 38th state 
to sign off on the amendment in 

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January of 2020. 
And the number now that's needed

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to officially make it the 28th 
Amendment of our constitution is

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38 We got it, 38 States. 
The number needed to officially 

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make it the 28th Amendment to 
the United States Constitution. 

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So right, we're on the brink of 
victory. 

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Well, you sort of because the 
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well, wait a minute. 
Getting the 38th state was 

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supposed, you're supposed to get
those 38 States in a time 

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period. 
Now, this isn't true for all 

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amendments to the Constitution, 
but when this was passed back in

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the 70s, in order, to get these 
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had to say, you know what, we're
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these 38 States and X number of 
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Well, I didn't get them in those
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amendments they did, eventually 
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were needed. 
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But the Democrats they said, you
know what, let's just have a 

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vote to get rid of that old 
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Then the Republicans won't be 
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the deadline and then thousands 
of you called your members of 

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Congress and called the White 
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prioritize the passing of the 
Equal Rights Amendment, the 

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house went ahead and passed, 
Jackie Spears, resolution to 

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remove the deadline to ratify I 
the ER, a by a vote of 222 to 

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204 in the United States House 
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So now we've got the 38 States. 
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Saying, forget the old deadline 
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Didn't matter in all these other
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We got the 38 States. 
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Constitution. 
Oh but wait a minute. 

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Yeah, the house is removed. 
The deadline we the sentence. 

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Got to remove it too. 
I know, right? 

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So Here we are. 
Now, it's in the Senate's hands.

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Where sj1, that's the name of 
the bill. 

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Sj1 was introduced by a 
bipartisan group of senators. 

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Yes, some Republicans, a few 
joined on to say, forget the old

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deadline, we got the 38 States. 
It should be in the 

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Constitution, but because the 
filibuster hasn't been abolished

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yet. 
Joe Biden, are you listening? 

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You've got to tell them this is 
it? 

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Sick and tired of this, a 
majority of the majority, that's

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51 votes. 50, Democrats plus the
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That's the majority. 
But because this hasn't been 

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fixed yet, we are still trying 
to get Now 60 votes in the 

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senate in order to let this now.
Certified 38th State Amendment 

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Equal Rights Amendment for 
women. 

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Put into our constitution, So 
here we are today we are in July

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of 2021 and I'm not giving up on
this. 

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I told you this at the beginning
of your, one of the things I was

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just going to keep on keep an 
eye on. 

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Is this Equal Rights Amendment 
has to be part of our 

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constitution, just as women are 
mentioned in firstly. 

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Every other Democratic country 
in their constitution in the 

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industrialized World, whatever 
you want to call it, women 

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exist. 
And we need to do the same damn 

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thing in a moment. 
I'm going to be joined by a 

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legendary and glass ceiling, 
breaking TV journalist, Carol 

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Jenkins who is also the 
president of the ER a coalition.

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And she's going to be here right
here in just a couple minutes to

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discuss with me. 
How we you me all of us. 

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Got to this point. 
Yay, but we must still do in 

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order to make equal rights for 
women, part of the United States

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Constitution. 
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There's this thing called the ER

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a coalition that's the Equal 
Rights Amendment Coalition. 

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It's made up of 150 
organizations across the 

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country. 
The Coalition provides research,

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education and advocacy and it 
works with both federal and 

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state legislators in trying to 
get this as part of our 

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constitution in the year 2020. 
The era Coalition was 

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instrumental in the advocacy 
work that brought about the 

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thirty eighth and final State 
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That was Virginia. 
For ratification of the Equal 

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Rights Amendment to be placed. 
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Constitution and also the area 
Coalition was active in the vote

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of Jackie Spears. 
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Last year, to dissolve the time 
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attached to the Equal Rights 
Amendment back in the 70s saying

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that you had to get these states
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The just the last amendment that
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have been introduced. 
Just 200 years before it was 

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ratified. 
So this is not a thing that's in

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the Constitution. 
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Congress did in the 70s thus the
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in. 
I just also want to say that the

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area Coalition has also 
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Its work in the senate for the 
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took a leadership role in the 
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and Virginia in their suit to 
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All the archivist. 
That's the guy who runs the 

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National Archives to publish. 
The are a. 

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Did I say it was a guy? 
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Okay, no offense to him but 
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Well you know the Trump 
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putting the area into the 
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Carol Jenkins though is here, 
she is our guest and she is the 

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president and CEO of the ER a 
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women's equality. 
She's also an author. 

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Author and a former Emmy 
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How many women did you see on 
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If you're my age or older how 
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reporting on the evening news? 
So she's a Trailblazer in her 

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own, right? 
She's here to lay out the 

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roadmap for how we you and me 
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we make the Equal Rights 
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in 2021. 
Welcome Carol Jenkins. 

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Michael thank So much, you know,
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there are people always ask me, 
can you just give me the short 

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version of the era? 
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no short version. 
We've had been at this for 100 

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years, but the way you presented
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doable, don't you think, you 
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Years be able to get this done? 
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Because first of all, when I was
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that We have a government a 
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majority rule, but minority 
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And so, in this case, you have 
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The majority of the country are 
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men, it's like 5149 some years a
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That's the majority. 
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minority rights is women are the
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the power. 
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November Many more women got 
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Well you know and I don't like I
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party and be the, the Debbie 
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women, having 20 percent of the 
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years ago to 25% today. 
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population has 25% of the power.
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when the majority don't have the
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the power, it's a version of 
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Does not rule. 
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And you know why, right? 
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systemic racism and systemic 
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US Constitution that was written
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Men who had no thoughts about 
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to or need to be included in the
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But you know, they did give the 
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constitution has been amended 27
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Now it's just that this 
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rights you know, and it doesn't 
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says is, you know, Michael and 
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in. 
This is it all it says is you 

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cannot discriminate against 
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anyone sex, any gender 
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this constitution needs to be 
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But I say, you know, let's not 
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to systemic sexism or racism. 
It's written in the Playbook 

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that we all have to live by and 
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time and the states. 
At that time, did take care of 

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the racial part, it didn't. 
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enforced. 
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action for another hundred. 
Years and and we're still 

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fighting it now with voter 
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things, eight minutes and 46 
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So we had a ways to go, but it 
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So that years later when, when 
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wanted to have have at least a 
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equality, it was there in the 
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and to this day as you said we 
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acknowledged. 
And anywhere in the Constitution

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193, countries acknowledge women
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Whether it's equal rights for 
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discrimination via on the basis 
of gender 193 countries. 

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That's got to include some 
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Have that I know, I know, I 
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it? 
And, you know, we are here is 

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the same woman, Alice, Paul, who
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When that was passed that white.
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That really doesn't do it. 
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the vote for 100 years now and 
we're still unequal and that one

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it's taken all of this time and 
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and went out to the state's when
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that said that, there was a time
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problem for for getting it 
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And so, here, we are. 
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only says article 52 things, you
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Congress and 13, right? 
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Congress already did it and how 
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I was our 38th State last year, 
Don done. 

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we're still fighting over that. 
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a miracle woman. 
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of Representatives it you know, 
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out but in order for it, It's to
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to take it up but now we have 
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Now we have we we we who support
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I have the Senate and we have 
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murkowski in the Senate who will
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Already said she's already. 
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Ben Cardin, Senator Cardin. 
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Susan Collins is Also has been a
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get it to the floor for a vote. 
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I'm a man that is so and and and
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wasn't 38 States and two thirds 
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That said men have won the right
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whatever it is. 
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constitutional, right? 
To hold the remote Mote control.

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All right, so let's just say 
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That once it's we've got the 38 
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time limit provision off because
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just this amendment but before. 
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Guys would say if this was a 
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From worker, we to know, we do 
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throwing our weight around for 
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I hope in my lifetime, I will 
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You do know that you're our 
hero, right? 

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Because you have consistently 
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amendment and so we so 
appreciate it. 

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You're one of the few male 
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Who understand. 
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usually get is well, why do 
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And what we say is have you 
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Do you know who the poor people 
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One out of three children. 
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usually use is 1 out of 4, but 
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children who don't know where 
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women are partnering the That 
they get paid less than men, you

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know, their Partners do is 
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we saw as we have seen during 
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group of people who cannot 
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homes and who are scared to 
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because they're essential 
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And so it is, it's time to 
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I think we're good. 
Get it done this year in 2021 in

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addition to being the majority 
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children. 
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never really gets brought up. 
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Republicans talk about the 
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they conjure up the image of 
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is in 2021, the majority of the 
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the lowest paid, right? 
Amongst us are women, right? 

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That's jobs. 
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go in the pandemic I or I mean 
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this with what we're living 
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Thank you for saying that about 
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is you know I mean I don't say 
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reasons here but but I just say 
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we will benefit we as men are 
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And I show I talk about the 
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World wet that where they have 
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prime minister, generally those 
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If you look at the good that 
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for the poor for children, 
Education Health, all these 

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things, I mean, I hate to say 
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But you know, if you've ever 
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us to go to the dentist, you 
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pulling teeth. 
So I'm just Saying, so all 

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right. 
I'm but, but you know, I don't 

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know, 55 Sarah said this 
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blessed. 
I've only I have only lived in 

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in majority, female households 
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I've never been in the majority 
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So it's myself and my two 
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You're what I do. 
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attention and I, you know and 
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house, it was my two sisters and
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322. 
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that actually their way was 
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You know what I'm all-in. 

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So, it was like a five to zero, 
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enlightened. 
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living in households where where
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But a lot of this to guys, I 
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okay? 
Okay dude, what is wrong with 

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you? 
I'm telling you if you know 

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there's if we would just like 
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you know. 
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things we can. 
Barn and we will be better off. 

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All of us will be better off for
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I truly truly believe that you 
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extremely wealthy where you know
a very well-off Nation for most 

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and besides the fact that we 
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you know that Scandal but 
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extraordinarily profitable by 
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payments of income, for for the 
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Men who work in almost every 
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So I think that you know, one of
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is that every year we do the 
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can tell where that comes 
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generally has to work to make 
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before a black woman and Latina 
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equal the same salary as the the
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It's infuriating. 
What I say is that we have tried

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everything else, we've thrown 
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energy and it doesn't get fixed 
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Constitution isn't fixed. 
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we're going to make sure that 
that, you know, that happens 

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that we get a Level Playing 
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know, it's, you know, we're 
talking about inclusion by sex 

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now, but the other things that 
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You know the gender expression 
we're working on that that's 

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included in this, you know, in 
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But but our country, so many 
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You cannot tell me that. 
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will be at the bottom of the 
Heap in terms of equality and we

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do nothing to fix it. 
So write it, you know, on that 

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on that gender equality day like
how few Hollis days, men have to

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work to attain Women get each 
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I have to nonprofit theaters in 
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theaters. 
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celebrate celebrate that men 
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on that day, have to pay that 
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So if women are making only 80 
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pay 20% more for the movie 
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coming his head. 
I just like Seeing the feather 

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faces, like, what the? 
That's not the way to fix it by 

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discriminating against us. 
And that's don't think of it as 

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discrimination. 
Just think of it as a little 

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little tweak. 
A little pinch to remind you and

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me and other men. 
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of this fight too. 
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Carol, tell them what are the 
things that they can do to join 

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in and to help to help get Equal
Rights Amendment actually 

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literally, it's already been 
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So literally put into written 
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Well, we are doing two things. 
We've delivered a letter to 

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President Biden and vice 
president. 

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Harris asking them because we 
know they support it to use 

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whatever they have at their 
disposal. 

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One of the reasons is the 
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this because of the Department 
of Justice of a previous 

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administration. 
Instructed him not to and not 

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that we want interference of the
Department of Justice, but there

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is a memo sitting there. 
That could be somehow we don't 

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want to encourage any kind of 
illegal activity, but it struck 

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the archivist, in whatever way 
is possible for him to just 

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publish the ER, a there's a 
short way. 

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And otherwise to use this 
tremendous experience in 

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Congress to massage the vote, so
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Joe bide. 
Yes. 

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We can can get the the 
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So because of the filibuster, we
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might be a way of now that 
Durbin is in judiciary and sugar

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as a leader, we might be able to
get a vote or that we have the 

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52 votes that would give us the 
Equal Rights Amendment. 

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So what people can do is implore
their Senators, that's the 

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Focus. 
We have as Jackie speier as 

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magnificently collected. 
So many spot co-sponsors and and

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votes in the house. 
But in the Senate to impress 

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upon your Senators that you you 
realize that we do not have 

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equality and that it is time and
2021 to give equality to based 

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on sex. 
No discrimination based on sex 

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and just remove the time limit 
on the ER, a so that we can 

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proceed then You know to to, you
know what, we started this 

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organization. 
We thought, oh well just get the

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area and then we'll all go home.
What an accomplishment that 

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would be a lot. 
Of course, we began to realize 

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the years ahead of us that that 
we will have to do to correct 

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imbalances. 
One of our members in Arizona 

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has gotten 2224 pro bono lawyers
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rules in the state government 
that will have to be changed 

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that. 
Art is 650 pages long. 

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So the work ahead of us answer 
to to erase that written in 

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stone in, you know, rules across
this country, all of that work. 

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Still, you know, is ahead of us 
so explore your Senators. 

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Okay, so, all right, so let me 
do it. 

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I'll put this very bluntly then.
So Carol Jenkins. 

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Yes, the people listening to the
my podcast right now. 

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What can they do? 
To, to make sure that the Equal 

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Rights Amendment is part of our 
United States Constitution 

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already passed by Congress, 
already passed by the required 

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38 States. 
Still not in the Constitution. 

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What can they do? 
So that? 

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It becomes part of the 
Constitution, they should tell 

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them. 
Tell them right now, what they 

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can do, go to our website, we 
are a coalition dot-org. 

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We give you a way to reach your 
Senators, erase that deadline, 

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get rid of that and that is the 
stumbling block that will be in 

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our way until it's completely 
taken away by Congress in both 

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the house and the Senate, it 
will always a straight up to the

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Supreme Court be an issue. 
And a stumbling block. 

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So we need that erased. 
Go to our website, you're a 

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coalition dot org and help us 
reach the Biden Administration. 

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We know that they support us, we
know that they want to do this. 

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You know all of the polling 
suggests that 90-plus percent of

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America is ready for this. 
It is only a few legislators who

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are not. 
It's hard to find people these 

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days who say there should not be
any quality, or sure we should 

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just discriminate based on 
sexual. 

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Hardest of Hearts apply those 
people these days but it's a 

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it's a legislative thing that 
has to be done and, you know, we

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ask for your support come to we 
will, we will assist you in 

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whatever way we can. 
We've evaluated all of a sudden 

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deters and all of the House of 
Representatives where they stand

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on equality. 
So it's an easy way are electi 

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Quality Tool to determine where 
your representative stand on the

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issue and to To, you know, let's
make a Ruckus and let's make 

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sure, you know, that we get it 
done, okay? 

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So you go to PR a coalition 
dot-org, right? 

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Right. 
Er, a coalition dot-org and 

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there, you will have what you 
need because when you call your 

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Senators, you got to know the 
name of the bill. 

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You're asking them to get 
behind, right? 

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Right. 
One in the Senate as SJ res 10. 

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So we love After that we moved 
up won't SJ resolution 1 and the

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Senate. 
Well, that's easy to remember. 

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So you call your Senators. 
Hi the number to Capitol 

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switchboard is 20 22 24 3121. 
I'll post it on my podcast 

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feature. 
In case you didn't write that 

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down and you call and you ask to
speak want to the first Senator 

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then you got to get back on the 
phone and talk to the second 

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Senator and you say I need you. 
You immediately to pass SJ 

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resolution 1 in the US Senate, 
for the Equal Rights Amendment 

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it, do it, and it's to get rid 
of the time limit which the 27th

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Amendment didn't have. 
They had 20 to 200 years to get 

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that passed, but women, We only 
gave you like a decade or so, in

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the 70s, if you couldn't get it 
past them, and to hell with you.

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No, we don't agree with any of 
that neither. 

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Do you listen to this? 
So you call your Senators, 20 

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22, 24 3121, tell them the pass 
SJ resolution, number one, and 

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and, and then then you've got to
let President Biden and vice 

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president, Harris know that you 
want this as a priority and you 

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can Them at whitehouse.gov, but 
these are the hold the power. 

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They have the White House, the 
house senate, and you've know 

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what I feel about the 
filibuster, that things got to 

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end. 
And if the Republicans want to 

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filibuster this, let them stand 
there and filibuster stand and 

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talk one of you at a time till 
you drop. 

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No food, no water. 
No sleep. 

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Stand for a day or two stretcher
will come in and take you out. 

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See how many Republicans want to
stand up against women's rights?

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I don't think it's going to be a
lot folks, but, you know, I hope

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the Democrats will take care of 
this crazy. 

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Filibuster thing, that's my own 
opinion. 

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Not not the purpose of this 
episode, but we need to get as 

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many Republicans because they 
can't be a bad thing. 

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Get behind this. 
Carol what else? 

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Anything else people can do to 
help. 

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That's it and just to live 
equality in your own lives. 

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Understand, you know, that this 
is not an abstract idea that 

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people are starving, that 
there's a way to fix it and it 

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is by amending the Constitution 
and we can do Band-Aids until we

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fix the Constitution, but they 
will only be Band-Aids. 

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This is the, this is the, the 
trail we have to follow to True 

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equality in the United States of
America. 

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I don't think you're asking for 
Lat my hat by asking that the 

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United States Constitution 
states specifically that it 

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includes 51 percent of the 
American population, more than 

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51 percent women so, women and 
girls. 

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All right, well, I really 
appreciate you coming on and 

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saying these things. 
Thank you for the kind words 

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about what we've been doing 
here. 

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We are not going to let up on 
this. 

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We want everybody participating 
in our era. 

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T''v and let's get this done 
now. 

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This year no more horsing around
on this. 

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It's wrong, it's morally wrong 
and you know, you know, whoever 

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you are. 
It's the right thing to do. 

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Do the right thing, Carol 
Jenkins. 

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Thank you so much. 
Thank you so much, Michael. 

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We love you. 
We're Michael Moore fan club 

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because that you are behind the 
Equal Rights Amendment. 

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And you have been for many many 
years. 

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So, thank you. 
Well, I got to tell you, it was 

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great. 
Speaking to Carol Jenkins in 

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honor to have her on this 
podcast. 

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I remember back when I was a 
kid, as I said in this interview

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with her, you did not see women 
reporters or anchors. 

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You didn't, and you certainly 
didn't see black women, 

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reporters and anchors. 
She broke that barrier and she 

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is still with us. 
And now she is fighting to make 

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sure the barriers are broken for
all women by getting the era. 

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In our constitution. 
So you've got your marching 

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orders, my friends, right? 
You've got to push the Senate 

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right now and, you know, I would
really, I know you're thinking, 

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oh my God, this I call the 
senator, get these awful 

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Senators. 
Listen, here's the, here's the 

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thing in our favor, women are 
the majority gender. 

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That means more women vote the 
men, but it's even better than 

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that. 
You know, women to men is like 

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51 to 49 percent of the country.
Sometimes it's depending the 

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year 52 percent of forty eight 
percent. 

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So there's always more of them 
because they're the majority 

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gender, but they also vote more 
than men depending on the year. 

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I mean they can they could be 
voting sometimes ten points 

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higher than men in our 
elections. 

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So Republicans were listening to
this and Republican Senators. 

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You need to tell your Republican
Senators. 

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Look, you know, we may not agree
on a lot of things but you want 

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to be re-elected, you do. 
Not want to be listed as one of 

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the Republicans who said no 
women shouldn't have equal 

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rights and they should not be in
the United States Constitution. 

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If that's the position you're 
going to take and believe me, 

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Carol's group, Jackie Spirits 
group, me, you all of us, we are

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going to make sure that the 
citizens of this country know 

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the names of the Senators, the 
Republican Senators who voted 

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against this. 
They can't win without Out 

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women's votes. 
They know that they need to be 

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reminded of that and in their 
own self-interest even though 

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the last thing they want to do 
probably is to give you equal 

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00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,900
rights to women is even have to 
laugh when I say that it's a 

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weird concept but that it does 
they know it's in their best 

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interest, they had better. 
Well vote for this because we're

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going to make it public and 
we're going to come after them 

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and they're not going to get 
reelected. they're not going to 

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get reelected, for a whole lot 
of other reasons too, because we

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00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,200
need a stronger Democratic 
majority than the one we have 

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now where we end up having to 
beg, Certain Democrats to please

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be Democrats, my friends, you 
have to do this. 

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00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:03,400
I'm sorry to ask you again, 
sorry to give the number again, 

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but as I already showed you the 
rumble bump you did this. 

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When I asked you to do it back 
at the beginning of the year, to

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call your members of Congress 
and boom, it passed to get rid 

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of this deadline. 
The deadline that, you know, was

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set up so long ago, all we care 
about is the 38 states that were

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needed to pass it. 
Have now passed it. 

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And it should be part of our 
United States Constitution just 

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like that. 
So call your Senators, I'll give

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00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:34,100
you the number and I'll have it 
here on the platform page or you

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00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:39,500
found my podcast 200 to 225 
3121. 

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A human operator will pick up 
and you need to say, I need to 

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00:37:45,008 --> 00:37:48,200
speak to my Senator and they'll 
say what state and you'll say, 

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you know, Wisconsin or whatever.
And then they'll say you want to

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00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:54,700
speak to Senator so-and-so, 
first or the other one, just 

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00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:57,500
pick one callback quote and then
speak to the other one. 

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00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,700
The real make sure you speak to 
the Republicans and if you all, 

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00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:03,800
if you have two Democratic 
senators, like we do in 

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00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,800
Michigan, then you need to call 
them to and tell them that 

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00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,200
you're calling Senators as are 
thousands of other listeners of 

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00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Rumble and we expect nothing 
less. 

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Damn women being given equal 
rights as 38 states have already

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voted and passed. 
This amendment, which is what is

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the number? 
That's the number required by 

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the Constitution. so, please 
call them tonight tomorrow 

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whenever 200 to 225 3121 Let's 
make this a reality please. 

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My friends. 
I'm not going to stop until it 

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is. 
I want to thank my executive 

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00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,400
producer bezel, Hamden, a my 
editor and Sound Engineering, it

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00:38:48,408 --> 00:38:52,400
was, and everyone else who has 
helped to make this podcast 

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00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,000
possible. 
Thank you. 

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All of you. 
This is Rumble and I like one. 

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Thanks everyone. 
Take care.

