1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,900 This is Rumble with Michael Moore and I am Michael Moore. 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:23,000 Michigan. I like my own Shores. 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:31,100 I long to see Michigan ever mention to you that. 4 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:37,100 I'm from Michigan. So is the great actor. 5 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:41,200 Jeff, Daniels of the purple rose of Cairo. 6 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,300 Jonathan demme's, something wild and of course Dumb and Dumber 7 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:48,800 and so many other great films He's he's also from Michigan. 8 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,100 So I thought we kick off today with Jeff Daniels singing, our 9 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:59,800 State Anthem Michigan, MI Michigan from Saginaw Whispering 10 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:07,900 Pines from Lake superior's, farthest - fair in the light of 11 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:16,500 memory shine, Michigan, Michigan, Val gave that Sons 12 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:24,300 without a side. Michigan, MI Michigan and sent 13 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:33,400 by bravest forth to die, Michigan, MI Michigan beneath. 14 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:42,700 The Hostile Southern Sky, they bore thy Banner crowd and ready 15 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:48,000 to fight and now, Ever to fly Michigan. 16 00:01:49,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Michigan, kind of a sweet but mournful song for a stadium 17 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Michigan, lost a lot of lives, in the Civil War. 18 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,800 I think probably per capita maybe even more than most other 19 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,300 states. Michigan was an early 20 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:16,300 abolitionist state. Trying to end slavery. 21 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,900 There's a famous court case, where an escaped slave was, 22 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:24,200 recaptured by Southerners who came up to capture slaves in the 23 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,900 north and that was allowed by the federal government until 24 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:30,400 Michigan. Put its foot down and the courts 25 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,900 in Michigan, put their foot down, and then that was the end 26 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:34,200 of that. And then Michigan became a 27 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,700 beacon of place. If you could get the Michigan 28 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:40,200 from the south, well, we're right there on the border with 29 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,900 Canada and then you could get true freedom because Canada at 30 00:02:43,900 --> 00:02:45,900 that point, of course. It's didn't have slavery. 31 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:51,900 And so, the State Anthem makes these references to the losses 32 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:54,900 of the Civil War. But it is. 33 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:58,200 I think when you listen to it, you'd think that the state song 34 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,500 from Michigan would be something from Motown, right or Aretha 35 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:07,900 Franklin, or Iggy Pop or the white stripes or Madonna, or Bob 36 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:12,700 Seger, there's so many great rockers and Hip-Hop from 37 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:17,500 Michigan Eminem but no, this is still our state and Anthem. 38 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:24,200 But today's podcast is actually quite a happy podcast because I 39 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,900 want to share with you before we get too far away from our 40 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,900 election and the great results we had last month stopping the 41 00:03:31,908 --> 00:03:37,500 Red Wave creating a blue wall. I want to point out what we did 42 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:42,800 in Michigan, that was so amazing and so overwhelming and I think 43 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,800 can provide a model for a lot of you and other states to follow 44 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:53,600 what we did to turn the state around, talk about a Blue Wave, 45 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,000 talk about a blue tsunami full Democratic control in all the 46 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 top offices, Governor lieutenant governor, Secretary of State 47 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,900 Attorney General, on top of that, for the first time in 40 48 00:04:05,900 --> 00:04:10,600 years, the Democrats control the entire Michigan legislature, the 49 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Michigan State Senate, the Michigan State House of 50 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,000 Representatives, and our Congressional Delegation from 51 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,600 Michigan for the first time in, Many years is now majority 52 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Democratic of our 13 representatives in Congress. 53 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:29,000 Seven Democrats will be sworn in on January 3rd in the United 54 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,900 States Congress. Seven Democrats in the house and 55 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:37,500 six Republicans 726. And plus of course we have our 56 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:39,700 two Democratic United States senators. 57 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:45,500 We set a record for having the largest voter turnout in the 58 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:47,800 history of the state for a midterm election. 59 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:54,600 Massive turnout. We codified Roe versus Wade and 60 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,400 actually improved on the Supreme Court decision and made it part 61 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,600 of our constitution, permanently last month. 62 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,800 That and so many other things all progressive ballot proposals 63 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,200 regarding giving this people in Michigan, even more voting 64 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,300 rights ending voter suppression, making it easy to vote. 65 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:19,200 And another proposal that got into how politicians don't have 66 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,400 to report all the money, That they're collecting and hanging 67 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,400 onto they. Now they're going to have to do 68 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,700 that and more of it. So all these good things are 69 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:31,000 happening, I mean, you know, I live up in northern Michigan and 70 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,600 fairly, you know, small town 15,000 people year-round in the 71 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,800 town and I don't know when the last time was we had a democrat 72 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,900 in the State House, representing Us in the city and yet we 73 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:47,500 elected Betsy. Kofi has a woman who's run 74 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:50,400 before and got elected this time. 75 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:54,200 We're off. I can't, we actually are going 76 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,700 to have a democrat in Lansing that we're going to be able to 77 00:05:56,700 --> 00:06:02,300 call when we need help with the things that we need to fix still 78 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:05,800 in the state of Michigan. And there's so many stories like 79 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,100 that especially in the area where I live is a fairly red 80 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:12,500 area of Michigan, and our congressman is Jack Bergman. 81 00:06:12,900 --> 00:06:17,700 Right wing Republican election denier voted to with the other 82 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:20,400 Traders there on January 6, 20 21. 83 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:23,700 Overturn, the election, overthrow the government. 84 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:27,700 Keep biting away from taking his seat in the white house. 85 00:06:27,700 --> 00:06:30,200 That's our Congressman. So don't want, I want to make it 86 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,500 sound like I live in some, you know, hip evil here. 87 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:38,200 But we got Democrats elected. We got the antrum county outside 88 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,000 of Traverse City all red. I live there for a number of 89 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,300 years. When I first moved there, you 90 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:48,100 know, I wanted to go down and see how the Democrats are doing. 91 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:49,900 Are there any Democrats in this County? 92 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,300 I was told. Were like four dues-paying 93 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:58,400 members. So we started to organize and I 94 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,400 was not myself, a dues-paying member of the democratic party. 95 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,300 And I've talked about this before nonetheless, within a 96 00:07:05,308 --> 00:07:07,400 couple of years. We had 200 members of the local 97 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,800 Democrats and and now this year, there are four over 400 in the 98 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,000 county and three townships were flipped from red to blue. 99 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,900 You'd have to like live in this area to understand how that's 100 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:23,500 just not possible. Except it happened. 101 00:07:23,900 --> 00:07:27,400 So it is possible. And it wasn't just in the area 102 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,500 where I live throughout the state, we retook the house and 103 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:35,500 the Senate from the Republicans who've held on to it for 40 104 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:39,400 years, literally, it has been 40 years in the state of Michigan. 105 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:43,000 Since the Democrats, controlled all the top offices. 106 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,100 And, you know, at the governor and attorney general level, and 107 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:50,500 all that, and had control of the State House, and the state 108 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:54,900 senate, The trifecta is what it's called, but this doesn't 109 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:59,500 just happen on its own. Now granted the Republicans have 110 00:07:59,500 --> 00:08:03,100 been a big help, keeping Donald Trump around running 111 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:07,800 wackadoodle, candidates q, and on supporting crazy, crazy 112 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,500 people. And you know, the majority of 113 00:08:10,508 --> 00:08:13,800 Americans are not crazy, they don't want to vote for crazy. 114 00:08:14,900 --> 00:08:18,800 It's such a pleasure to watch the people in your state, saying 115 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,800 that's it. I've had enough and do the right 116 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,600 thing. Everybody's kind of pinching 117 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,300 themselves and wondering, you know, how did this happen? 118 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:30,200 How did I mean we all worked hard? 119 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,100 Yes. But but it was also, one thing 120 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:38,100 that I want to share with you and in the hopes that maybe you 121 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:41,400 can get this going in your state for 2024. 122 00:08:41,500 --> 00:08:44,700 So if you can stay with me for a little bit here today, I'd like 123 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:49,900 to give you this personal update from my home state, but before 124 00:08:49,900 --> 00:08:52,900 we get started, I just want to mention that. 125 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:56,800 We are celebrating our third anniversary of producing Rumble 126 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,800 with Michael Moore 3 years ago. This weekend, December, 2019. 127 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,700 We had our very first podcast, you know, the first one was just 128 00:09:06,700 --> 00:09:09,000 kind of an introductory of what I wanted to do when I hope to 129 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,200 accomplish with the podcast episode number 2, I have my 130 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,200 first guest on the great Daniel Ellsberg and then the third 131 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,100 episode, we got on the train, went down to Washington DC and 132 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:24,300 sat in the front row. On the balcony of the house. 133 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:27,300 The house Gallery. Well, they conducted the vote to 134 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:31,000 impeach Donald Trump for the first time we sat there, we were 135 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,100 witnesses to it. It was amazing thing. 136 00:09:33,100 --> 00:09:37,000 And then we had our equipment with us that we couldn't really 137 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,000 record there in the inside the chamber. 138 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,700 But on the train on the way back, we did the episode on the 139 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:44,500 Amtrak writing back with everybody who had gone down from 140 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:46,900 New York to witness this historic event. 141 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,900 It's really a moment. This has been an incredible 142 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:55,900 three years 206 He 6 episodes covering so many issues having 143 00:09:55,900 --> 00:09:59,000 so many great guest much much gratitude. 144 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,600 Thank you for these three years of Rumble. 145 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:05,200 And we've got some very cool things that were cooking up 146 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,100 starting as early as next week, so more on that later. 147 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,400 But for, I go back to what I want to share with you, the 148 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,700 secret of our success in Michigan. 149 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:16,600 I want to thank our Underwriters for today. 150 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:21,500 So, our first or underwriter I want to thank today is a long 151 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:24,900 time supporter of this podcast and it's Shopify. 152 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,000 Now, as you know your go, we launched the more store and this 153 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,900 is my online shop where a portion of the proceeds for 154 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:33,200 every t-shirt or a hoodie or coffee mug. 155 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,000 You buy goes to our causes that. 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The blue said Ami in the state 200 00:13:14,700 --> 00:13:18,400 of Michigan in the election on November 8th. 201 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:24,700 Let me just share with you why that has happened because there 202 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:30,300 is the secret sauce that if you just do one thing in each of 203 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:35,600 your States, I can guarantee you that many of them could have the 204 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,700 results that Michigan had and don't say to yourself. 205 00:13:37,700 --> 00:13:39,400 No, Mike. That's not possible here 206 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:43,800 because, you know, it's Kansas. It's whatever its Republican. 207 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,800 It's a red State. Yeah. 208 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,900 Okay. You know we can keep whining 209 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:52,100 about that. Or we can change it because 210 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,000 sadly, Michigan had this Republican governor for many 211 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,200 years, Rick Snyder. And then back in the 90s and 212 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,000 early 2000, we had another Republican Governor, John 213 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Engler, and these two Governors who both got multiple terms 214 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,400 helped, to destroy our state, and we didn't seem like we could 215 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,900 do anything about it, even though we were traditionally a 216 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:16,900 democratic State, the home of the modern day, labor movement, 217 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:19,800 and yet Republicans were Calling the shots. 218 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:25,600 I mean, soon ago as 2016 more people of Michigan voted for 219 00:14:25,900 --> 00:14:28,100 Democrats and then they did Republicans. 220 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:32,500 Okay, so so the Democrats got the majority of people out to 221 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:38,700 vote and yet the Republicans and a majority of the House of 222 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:42,000 Representatives in the state of Michigan, even though they have 223 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,900 fewer people voting for them. How does that happen? 224 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,500 Gerrymandering gerrymandering gerrymandering? 225 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Remanding racist, gerrymandering. 226 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,400 You know, we have a number of majority black cities, Detroit 227 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,100 Flint, Saginaw that Harbor. And then there are those that 228 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:05,000 are pretty close to 50/50 number of Detroit suburbs. 229 00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:08,800 And so what they do is they carve up the black districts, 230 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,200 the black neighborhoods and make it difficult for 231 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,100 African-Americans and Democrats to win and they did this for 232 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:23,100 years years and years. Until we put a stop to it in 233 00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:27,000 2018. A lot of what I'm going to tell 234 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,400 you here, about what we did in Michigan to turn the state 235 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,400 around, is based on the fact that we had a ballot proposal in 236 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,100 2018 that past, and it made gerrymandering illegal in 237 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:47,200 brought out voters who wanted an end to this racist practice. 238 00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:51,100 And when they did that, because it brought out so many people 239 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:56,500 who would vote for Democrats in 2018, that's when we Flipped the 240 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:59,600 governor's chair Attorney, General Secretary of State, 241 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:03,500 lieutenant, governor and they all got re-elected here last 242 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:07,700 month. I said I was going to give you 243 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:10,100 one thing, if they're could do one thing in your state. 244 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:17,000 If you want to turn things around and gerrymandering And 245 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,200 don't expect the politicians to do it for you because they 246 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,800 benefit from it. Even the Democrats have 247 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,500 benefited from it, you know, because you are in there and 248 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:30,000 you're carving up the map. But generally, if it's a 249 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,900 republican controlled State, they really carve up the I mean 250 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:35,800 the you've seen some of the drawings of districts in these 251 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,600 Republican states. It's pretty appalling. 252 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:45,400 But in 2018 a young woman in her 20s decided to start a petition 253 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,100 drive to get it. Our proposal on the ballot in 254 00:16:48,108 --> 00:16:50,500 the state of Michigan, that would essentially Outlaw 255 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:54,000 gerrymandering and provide voting rights and stop voter 256 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,400 suppression. And she was incredible and 257 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,700 people just joined up, I mean, it's just one posting on 258 00:17:00,700 --> 00:17:04,000 Facebook and the thing just blew up and all of a sudden there's 259 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,900 thousands tens of thousands of michiganders joining with her to 260 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:11,000 get this on the ballot and the Republicans, couldn't believe 261 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,000 how many signatures they got. They fought it went all the way 262 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,500 to the Supreme Court in Michigan. 263 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,200 Probably going to try to keep it off the ballot. 264 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,200 They couldn't succeed. And once it was on the ballot, 265 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,300 that essentially, it would be a crime. 266 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:29,900 Did Jerry Mander. And one of the ways to prevent 267 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:34,100 that in the ballot proposal, is that it said, from now on the 268 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:37,700 districts would be drawn by an independent nonpartisan 269 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:44,000 Commission of citizens. The name of their group, this 270 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,600 group, she formed. Was called voters not 271 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,600 politicians. Voters, the citizens would 272 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,900 decide the map, not the politicians who benefit from the 273 00:17:56,900 --> 00:18:02,600 map and in doing so they snuff out the voices of people of 274 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,900 color and others who don't have the power to draw the map. 275 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,900 The map is now drawn by citizens who are vetted and have to, they 276 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:15,400 have to prove, they're not in there. 277 00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:18,900 As a party functionary for either party. 278 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:24,600 They are there to draw an honest map and they redrew the map in 279 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,000 Michigan. They drew an honest map. 280 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:31,000 And then of course after the census here in 2020, the map got 281 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,800 tweaked again. And now when people went to vote 282 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,900 last month, the vote wasn't being suppressed, they weren't 283 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:45,500 voting in some wackadoodle weirdly drawn District. 284 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:49,600 They were voting along with their neighbors and the people 285 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,100 who lived and worked with them participated in a similar 286 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:55,800 economy. Had similar issues that they're 287 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,800 concerned about whether it's about the environment or a 288 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,400 criminal justice, or whatever you voted along with your 289 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,800 neighbors. Your voice was going to be 290 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,200 heard. And so that's what happened last 291 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:15,300 month, and once the map was fair, the Republicans were no 292 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:18,200 longer in charge because the people don't want the 293 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,800 Republicans, the people of America don't want the 294 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,500 Republicans running the country. I'll say it again, in seven of 295 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:29,500 the last eight presidential elections in this country where 296 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:32,300 the whole country gets to vote. Only once. 297 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:37,000 Since George, the first George h.w., Bush was president since 298 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,400 his election in 88. From then, until now. 299 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,600 The Republican running for president has only won the 300 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:52,100 popular vote once. And that was with baby Bush in 301 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:56,400 2004, in the middle of a war where we in America, waited. 302 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,500 We've never thrown a president out during a war. 303 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,800 So he barely wins that election in 041 State. 304 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,300 Ohio 100,000 150,000 votes. That's it. 305 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,700 So, for all these years and seven of the last eight 306 00:20:12,700 --> 00:20:16,800 presidential elections in the 34 years, since the 88 election, 307 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,200 the vast majority of Americans have voted for the Democrat. 308 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,300 It was on the ballot. That's why Gore won by a half a 309 00:20:23,300 --> 00:20:25,900 million votes. Hillary won by 3 million votes, 310 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,300 Biden won by seven million votes noticing a trend. 311 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,400 This has so freaked out the Republican party over the years 312 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:41,600 or recent years, that they have done everything that they have 313 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,700 been able to get away with to gerrymander these voting 314 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:48,800 districts. So they can draw the map so 315 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,300 Republicans can get elected. I just I would just like to ask, 316 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,400 you know, Republicans, how do you feel with? 317 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,900 I mean, I guess, yeah, you want to win. 318 00:20:56,900 --> 00:21:01,900 So, win by any measure. Even if it's sort of kind of 319 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:05,200 cheating the map because you know the American people don't 320 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,800 want you anymore, right? You got that message, right? 321 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,200 You only won the popular vote once since 1988. 322 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,000 The American people don't want you in charge. 323 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,800 But you want to stay in charge, okay. 324 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,700 I get that, you know, it's hard to break up, it's hard to leave 325 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:30,300 when you're no longer wanted. So then you do all these tricks. 326 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:34,900 All this voter suppression, make it hard for people to vote have 327 00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:38,000 poll Watchers challenging black voters, Brown voters. 328 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,800 Yeah, yeah, you know, you've done it. 329 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,400 You've done it all and you've succeeded. 330 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,900 In keeping a lot of our state's red and Republican. 331 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,100 When in fact, maybe they aren't red and Republican. 332 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:56,000 And you took over our state of Michigan for many, many years. 333 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:00,600 The majority of our Congressional Delegation was 334 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,200 Republican, even though the majority of Voters who were 335 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,700 voting in the state of Michigan were Democrats, how do you feel 336 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:08,900 doing that? I just curious. 337 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:14,100 I only have like one experience. Personally I can relate to back 338 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:20,400 in when I was on the eighth grade basketball team and I had 339 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,300 a really good heel hook shot. I was not a good runner but my 340 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:28,900 hand-eye coordination was pretty good and so I was And I could 341 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:31,700 hook it from way over in the corner, like near the out of 342 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:34,000 bounds. And so during one of these 343 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,800 games, I let off a hook shot over my head. 344 00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:43,000 All the way from the corner where the two out of bounds 345 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:48,200 lines come together, except as I was doing it, I looked down and 346 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:53,200 I saw that my foot was like an inch out of bounds. 347 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,400 I made the hookshot swish right in and of course, the students 348 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:07,400 in our side, you know, my wild and cheering and And okay, I'm 349 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,400 sorry, I've got a conscience. I mean we all have a conscience 350 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,000 but mine is maybe sometimes a little too active. 351 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:21,800 I went up to the roof and I said, I was out of bounds when I 352 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:29,000 made that shot. and he looked at me like, What kind of crazy kid 353 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,400 are you? You know, I said it's not right. 354 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:41,300 I shouldn't get those points. And he just goes, he is mad at 355 00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:44,500 me actually. So you just like, blows his 356 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:48,400 whistle and then announces that I was out of bounds. 357 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,600 And, you know, my coach mr. Herman was like, what happened? 358 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,600 When it went over to him? I told him. 359 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,400 I said, I told the ref that I did that shot wasn't legal. 360 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,400 It was, I was out of bounds. This is Catholic School league 361 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:11,800 and this, you know, this coach was so kind of 362 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,000 salt-of-the-earth. And so very much in his Catholic 363 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,800 place and he didn't hit Hit me he didn't yell at me. 364 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:28,600 He just nodded his head. And approved of my what 365 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,500 everybody else. Conservative faux pas, people 366 00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:34,700 all the team so mad at me and was like, what are you nuts? 367 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,800 I said that, what's, that's not right. 368 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,900 It's not right to claim the basket if I could make it by was 369 00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:43,500 out of bounds. So I want to ask the 370 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:47,100 Republicans, you're out of bounds, American people don't 371 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:50,600 want you, you don't win these elections properly. 372 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:54,600 How do you feel knowing when you take a seat in the State House 373 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,900 of the state senate or in Congress that the majority of 374 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:00,900 the people actually didn't want you there? 375 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:04,900 Don't want you there and yet you're sitting there, I would 376 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:08,100 feel so creepy. Every day going in there. 377 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:12,600 Going on the floor of the house taking my seat knowing that That 378 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,400 I was elected in a kind of a fraudulent way. 379 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:22,600 But a way that the Republicans Supreme Court has they keep 380 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,000 allowing it. Because they like being on the 381 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Supreme Court, a 6, to 3 quart 623, Republican Quarry. 382 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:35,500 When the majority of Americans are not, Republicans, do not 383 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:39,100 vote for republicans. And yet. 384 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,500 They're the Republicans sit taking away women's rights. 385 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,500 Getting rid of good gun laws that get passed. 386 00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:51,500 That was another thing they did this summer. 387 00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:54,800 So I just wanted to do this today. 388 00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:01,800 I wanted to to encourage all of you who live in many states 389 00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,900 where it seems like something is wrong. 390 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,900 Like why are the Republicans still in charge? 391 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,200 Why are we still considered a red state? 392 00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:17,400 When oftentimes, you can see after election after election, 393 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,600 it's Democrats are getting more votes. 394 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,500 So here's my encouragement to you, to follow the Michigan 395 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:28,500 model. You need to get a ballot 396 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,700 proposal. If your state allows such a 397 00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:35,000 thing on the ballot in the next election that illuminates, 398 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,600 gerrymandering crib the Michigan one copy it. 399 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,900 I'll post a link to it. Here you could do this in your 400 00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:46,200 Your State's if you if they allow ballot proposals and if 401 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,800 they don't allow ballot proposals in your state, maybe 402 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,700 you should think about making that happen. 403 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,800 I think it's slightly more than half the states. 404 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,300 There are some form of ballot proposal. 405 00:26:56,300 --> 00:27:01,400 That's allowed But the other half need to be able to have 406 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,200 direct democracy. Also need to be able to pass 407 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,500 laws. The voters, need to be able to 408 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:12,100 pass laws at election time. So that is my challenge to you 409 00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:15,600 in purple states, red States, even blue states, that still 410 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,300 haven't done this yet. Once we start to do this, what's 411 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,400 going to happen is what happened with us here in Michigan, where 412 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,100 the Democrats now, control the state, state government, state 413 00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:31,800 legislature, and in many of our local cities towns townships, 414 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,700 Republican mayor's were booted out, Republican County 415 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:38,800 Commissioners were booted out. I mean, it was like, one big 416 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,200 boot going across the state of Michigan last month. 417 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,200 It was a beautiful thing to see and you, I know would love to 418 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,400 see it in your state. So get your petition drive 419 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,500 going. So you can get it on the ballot 420 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:54,300 and 2024. And if you don't have a way to 421 00:27:54,300 --> 00:28:00,100 put a ballot proposal on, then start the lobbying efforts to 422 00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,500 get your state government to allow. 423 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,200 Ow ballot proposals and point out to the Republicans that, you 424 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,900 know, they can benefit from this to that means they can put 425 00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:11,800 ballot proposals on. They can try to get them past 426 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:14,500 and don't tell them that they're not going to have much success. 427 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:19,200 Because even in the selection last month, where the right to 428 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,600 an abortion was put into the state constitutions of Michigan, 429 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,300 California, and Vermont, Republicans. 430 00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:30,000 Did it ballot proposals on the ballot in Kentucky and Montana, 431 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,100 but their ballot proposals were to Abortion to ban abortion and 432 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:38,800 those valid proposals lost. Why? 433 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,700 Because the majority of Americans agree with us because 434 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:43,500 there are more of us than there are of them. 435 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,000 And there, it will be that way for some time to come. 436 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,000 Why? Because every year for million 437 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,400 17 year olds, this country become 18. 438 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,200 And you know what, they don't want to vote for Donald Trump or 439 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,100 anybody that looks or sounds like Trump. 440 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,900 They don't hate people because of their race or because they're 441 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,900 lgbtq the, you know, we've raised a pretty good generation 442 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:08,700 or two of young people and every year for one of them become 443 00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:12,600 eligible to vote. And they vote by overwhelming 444 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,500 numbers, High, well up into the 60 percentile. 445 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:22,700 When young voters vote, they vote for Democrats and the more 446 00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,800 that we encourage this and get them out to vote. 447 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,700 The more that we put ballot proposal issues like student 448 00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:33,600 loan, forgiveness, or raising the minimum wage. 449 00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:37,300 Anything that would benefit young people to get them out to 450 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:41,100 vote, will guarantee that you will get more Democrats elected 451 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:43,900 in your state. I don't mean to make it sound, 452 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:46,000 like it's that simple. But my friends, it is that 453 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,900 simple. And I saw it happen again last 454 00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:54,000 month in my home state of Michigan. 455 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:59,600 And I thank you for giving me this time today to talk once 456 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000 again, about the state of Michigan. 457 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,800 But I'm doing it only because I want you to be inspired by how 458 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,600 we pulled this off. And it only took from the 2018 459 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:20,500 midterm 2 now Trump won the state of Michigan in 2016, so we 460 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:27,300 ended that voted for Biden. This can happen where you live 461 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,300 and I have some other cool things that I want to talk to 462 00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:35,300 you about. I'm going to start off a podcast 463 00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:40,600 series, another tsunami series next, Sunday on Christmas Day, 464 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200 and I'll tell you more about it later this week. 465 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:47,100 But I'm going to give you a wealth of information and 466 00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:50,800 tactics and strategy of how you can pull this off. 467 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:55,700 How even if you live in the reddest County the red estate or 468 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,900 whatever. You know, it may not turn it 469 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:03,200 around a hundred percent, but you can start to peel away to 470 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,900 dig into a Democrat here or democrat there. 471 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,300 I think you're really going to like what we're planning here on 472 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,700 Rumble and I my sub stack get people to sign up for my sub 473 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:16,900 stack. 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Led by these two young women 489 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,300 from my town. From the time that I live in 490 00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:14,700 Traverse City, Michigan. They're called Accidentals song 491 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:16,900 is called life. I think I played it maybe a year 492 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:19,500 ago. I hear it's called Michigan 493 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,900 again, and again, and again, and again, and again. 494 00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:26,800 Thank you, everybody. Thank you for being part of 495 00:32:26,808 --> 00:32:28,600 this. This is Michael Moore, my thanks 496 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:35,300 to my producer and editor, Angela, vargo's, and we will see 497 00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:39,500 you later this week here on Rumble with Michael Moore. 498 00:32:54,700 --> 00:33:01,000 We lay down in the grass in the nest of sleeping bag. 499 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:12,100 Breathing in the Shadow. Canyon are the water 45 degrees. 500 00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:20,300 We read out to the nice and soaked to the slaves in a semi. 501 00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:40,200 Great steal and state. My in compass rose has Michigan 502 00:33:46,900 --> 00:34:10,500 Michigan. And cactus flowers soldiers of 503 00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:25,500 the find land. Great state. 504 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:47,600 What state my end, it covers roses for Michigan. 505 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,600 Great state. What state my end, it covers 506 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:47,600 roses for Michigan.