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All right guys, welcome to our 
last Patreon exclusive. 

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Next week we will be back with 
more BGE and more things of that

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nature, but. 
This more anime, more comic 

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books, more superheroes, more 
Garrett, more DeMarcus, more 

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black heat energy in all new new
year, new me, new you or the 

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same you and you know the newest
hopefully some different hair. 

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Who me? 
Yeah, that's good. 

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Thank you and hopefully it looks
good for our first show. 

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Like my hair be looking a mess 
on this podcast? 

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Sometimes there's sometimes you 
having a you be having a fresh 

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cut, bro. 
Sometimes you'd be like you 

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ready. 
I'll be having like 5 fresh cuts

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out of 50 episodes so. 
Yeah, sometimes you come in here

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looking like you're ready for a 
date, brother. 

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I'm just saying. 
And sometimes I look at like I'm

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homeless and nobody loves me. 
Per your words, you have said 

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that actually. 
I said that to you. 

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You said last week when you did 
not have your hair cut, you look

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like nobody in the universe 
loved you, and I've never 

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forgotten that. 
Never forgotten that. 

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But hey, that's how I look. 
Anyways, on this episode, I 

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asked the important question. 
Do I make the Marcus mad? 

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This was probably our oh, this 
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episode that we've ever done. 
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that I keep going back to. 
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think that it turned the podcast
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Like I understood a lot more 
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I think this is where things 
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you've been listening all last 
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things became a bit more 
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the, in the in on the show as 
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And, and then as we got toward 
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know, you can tell, you may have
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I were two different places. 
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try to find some common ground. 
We get back on the same page. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
This episode it was, it was kind

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of hard. 
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think that getting it out made 
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I'm still not invited to the big
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And this big ceremony is 
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because they live together now 
in sin. 

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So it's probably going to happen
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Nothing wrong with a little city
of sin Sin. 

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Right. 
So yes, listen to probably our 

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best Patriot episode. 
We're releasing this for free. 

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Hope you enjoy, but this is the 
Marcus goes to therapy and you 

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can listen to this episode along
with all of my other episodes on

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our Patreon is Patreon is $3 a 
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And, and you can subscribe and 
listen to all this and all the 

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stuff that we're about to 
release. 

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And just thank you so much for 
even listening to this. 

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And and yeah, we will see you 
next week with a brand new 

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episode of brand new DeMarcus, a
brand new Jardo and a brand new 

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black energy. 
I'll have a new backdrop and 

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everything. 
Oh, new backdrop. 

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So yeah. 
And by the end I'm have my my, 

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my, my decorating. 
I'm going to see anime art, all 

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of it through this room. 
Hopefully Sailor Moon. 

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No anime art that I already 
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So like Avatar Last Airbender, 
Demon Slayer, maybe even a what 

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you call that thing in in DND? 
You hackasho. 

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No DND with all the eyeballs. 
A beholder. 

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The beholder. 
Yeah, maybe even a beholder. 

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Yeah. 
So be prepared for that for next

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week. 
We will see you there with a 

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brand new Black Eek energy. 
And yeah, bye guys. 

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BGE out. 
OK, this is the Patreon, High 

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Patreon. 
So DeMarcus, is there anything 

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you want to talk about today? 
I don't. 

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Have hey, I don't think are we 
going to make another list for 

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like episode list for the 
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I do have a random question for.
You, yes. 

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What are your thoughts on 
immigration? 

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Immigration. 
Immigration. 

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Let them all in. 
Who? 

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Are they? 
Hurting. 

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Who are they hurting? 
Immigrants have done nothing to 

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me. 
I mean have done nothing to 

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this. 
Country, I guess I should say. 

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What about like illegal 
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Like people, let them in. 
Let them all in. 

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We should have open borders. 
Culture here come in all they 

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want. 
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founded on having open borders, 
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York, I'm talking about the 13 
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This this country was founded on
stealing. 

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Take care. 
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Exactly. 
For the folks. 

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Yeah. 
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So this land is not ours. 
We cannot claim it. 

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Let them in. 
They just want to work and get 

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away from whatever they're 
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Or looking for new 
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Why not? 
That's selfish. 

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Let them in. 
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How do you feel about it? 
I do believe that there should, 

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there should be an easier way. 
It should be easier to to come 

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into the country. 
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there should be like open board 
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Think about this way, like if 
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down and then they came to your 
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there, didn't talk to you about 
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house. 
We'll be like who? 

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Everybody come on in. 
DeMarcus, you're talking about a

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neighbor's house burning down, 
so it's a neighbor still living 

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there. 
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Is a neighbor still living 
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It's an extreme example the 
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I mean, it's an extreme example 
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the country being open. 
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Let's say let's let's paint it 
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You have a mansion. 
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mansion. 
You're there is also another 

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mansion a few miles down the 
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That mansion, I don't know, 
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some people want to leave, other
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But after those folks decide to 
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into your mansion, I'll talk to 
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Oh. 
Once once you find out what's 

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your are you just like oh cool, 
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like yo, why are y'all here like
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Is that still? 
Not a good one to one example of

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immigration. 
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to make a one to one example of 
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country and folks just start 
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I think you know, I'm trying to 
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You don't have to break it down.
I'm not a child. 

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I understand the immigrant 
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I understand all the worries. 
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What are you? 
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people coming in, getting their 
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I? 
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coming in and getting their 
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don't think, I don't think it 
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come in whenever you want to 
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OK. 
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I think there should be a 
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that. 
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anywhere else. 
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we're talking about places where
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places where like where, where 
we get like the most first PG or

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something like that. 
Like we can't just go over there

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and be like, alright, cool, I 
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I. 
Mean true. 

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There should be a process for 
when you come. 

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In that's my only point there 
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A process, yeah, Yeah, there 
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I do agree with that. 
It should be a process. 

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So. 
So where's this coming from? 

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I'm gonna say it's a random 
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And I've been seeing a lot of, 
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and like, he called the 
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I'm like, hey, that's too far. 
I'm not about it. 

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Like, people, nobody's ready to 
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South Americans. 
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so are we talking about Native 
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Like what are we talking about? 
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about stuff that they don't even
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On I agree and I, you know, I'm 
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I'm not being I don't have like 
the most information about like 

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what immigration looks like and 
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either. 
So I'm not the best person to 

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comment. 
The thing is, I don't think that

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nobody will want to leave their 
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circumstances. 
Oh, absolutely. 

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They have to. 
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forced out of their country, 
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people who feel that they need 
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open arms and let them attain 
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And I do agree with you that, 
yeah, I'm saying you kind of low

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now. 
I can be. 

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I can, I'm sorry. 
I do agree that this country, 

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one of the things that this 
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want to say founding them, but 
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country has always done is allow
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better life for themselves, 
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But I don't want to say that. 
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like one of our staples. 
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America and that's a matter of 
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It's like the it's part of the 
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It's like I I come here and I 
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the American dream, but 
everything is changing now. 

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It the American Dream 'cause if 
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it ain't real. 
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Mean Awoke by the way that we've
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people took it and colonized it.
But on today's episode since you

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so you don't have nothing else 
to really say And no, we we are 

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not doing a episode list for the
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I'm not thinking that far ahead.
We just going to come in here 

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and start yapping all. 
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Why do you think we need one? 
I mean, well, sometimes I have, 

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I mean I could just have a list 
for myself, but sometimes I'd be

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like, oh, I want to talk about 
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forget by the time it come. 
Up. 

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Oh yeah, make a list for 
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sleepless nights I came up with 
a list to talk about today and I

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wrote it down. 
It's right here if you can see 

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it. 
And it is actually some things 

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that I had to look upon myself 
on things that, you know, make 

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you mad. 
You know, I'm trying to make 

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this podcast very successful. 
I'm trying to make us last for 

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three more years, you know, six 
more years, 18 more years trying

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to make this successful place. 
But I think that in this 

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journey, we both have to be 
connected in ways that are 

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unprecedented. 
And I know that, you know, 

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sometimes I may test the limits 
of our friendship with, you 

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know, some of the jokes that I 
say. 

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And I just wanted to look and 
just ask you do things that I 

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say make you mad. 
And I was going to go down do a 

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list of these that may make you 
mad you. 

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Just want a yes or no. 
No, no, no, no. 

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I don't want a yes or this is 
not a quick fire. 

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But if that's all that you have,
then you know I can't force you 

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to get me another answer. 
But if, if, if you were 

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indulged, indulge me 'cause you 
know I haven't saw me yet. 

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So I I wrote down the list, 
you'll indulge, indulge me. 

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I just want to ask you some 
things that that I've said or do

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reoccurrently that may make you 
mad. 

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And I have 10 of these, so 
you'll indulge me. 

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Are you ready? 
I am prepared. 

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OK, alright, so sit. 
On his laughing. 

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No, I'm laughing 'cause you 
laughing. 

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All right, so all right, So 
question number one, and this is

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all stuff that I'm asking you, 
do I make you mad, DeMarcus? 

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So when I say when I call you a 
man in a wig, does that make you

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mad? 
When I say that you know your 

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hair isn't real and you purchase
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that make you mad? 
I think it I think that one, and

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I think this might be the case 
for a lot of things is that it 

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depends. 
Now if it's like a one off 

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comment thing, you're making a 
joke. 

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My hair is not a wig. 
We can, but when it's like I 

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think when you start to like 
lean in, like fix it and it's 

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like, I don't know, I want 
everyone to agree with me that 

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his hair is a wig. 
It's like, Jerry, what the fuck 

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are we doing? 
We're wasting time. 

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We got better things to talk 
about. 

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So. 
So it does make you mad. 

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You can make me mad, it has the 
potential. 

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And has it made you mad in the 
past? 

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I think so. 
I think so. 

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I think you have dragged it like
like I said, it depends. 

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And when you be dragging it, 
I'll be like, bro, OK. 

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OK, well, you know that just 
it's what it looks like. 

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Maybe it's the the camera 
quality, but it's next one when 

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I do that. 
It doesn't matter what you say. 

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Does that make you mad? 
No that. 

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One is bad, OK. 
Yeah, I mean, that's just a 

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piece of me giving you a piece 
of your own medicine where you 

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always cut me off and then I go.
I don't think I ever told you it

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doesn't matter. 
No, but you always cut me off. 

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I do. 
I do do that and I think that's 

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a part of personality. 
That's something I'm working. 

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On Well, that's just a part of 
that's just, that's just me 

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giving you what you always give 
me. 

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That's fine. 
When I correct you on things 

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like Superman getting weaker at 
night, does that make you mad? 

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No, sometimes I think you like 
splitting hairs. 

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Sometimes I'm like, it's like 
with the Superman thing, he was 

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like, does he get weaker at 
night? 

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And I was like, no, you like. 
You said yes, no, no, no. 

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OK, so so so I did that that 
question during when I was doing

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the activities thing on the 
Patreon. 

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But you originally said on the 
main episode a long time ago 

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that Superman gets weaker at 
night. 

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And if I was correcting you, you
got mad. 

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Saying that, but we're talking 
about recently on the Patreon we

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had said I was like no, no. 
Well, I guess general answer, 

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no, I don't. 
You corrected me. 

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Doesn't make it. 
I think I'm gonna say no. 

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I'm gonna leave that now. 
So then what is this about 

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splitting hairs? 
Splitting hairs. 

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I mean jerks. 
I'm like, 'cause like we were 

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talking about Naruto on the main
5 and he was like, I'm like, 

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it's a jumpsuit. 
You're like, it's a warm up. 

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And I'm like, Jerry, does that 
really matter? 

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Yes, jumpsuit and warmers are 
two separate things. 

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Can you know that? 
In the context of this of that 

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question, does it really matter?
Yes. 

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It does really matter the 
correct. 

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Attire. 
Is it something that we have to 

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fight tooth and nail for? 
DeMarcus, it matters, and I was 

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right. 
Is it something that we have to 

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fight tooth and nail for? 
No, just admit that I'm right. 

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That's that's. 
OK, so so so why can't you admit

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that I'm. 
Right. 

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I think that's what irritates me
when it's like a small 

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distinction that does not make a
difference and and you start 

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fighting tooth and nail for it. 
I'm just like Jerry, this 

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doesn't matter. 
OK, it doesn't matter, but it 

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matters to me down right. 
And I think I'm, and I think 

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what I'm, I'm, I'm trying to, 
what I'm starting, I'm trying to

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take it as like you're trying 
to, you're trying to, you know, 

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add conflict or spice to the 
podcast, the show. 

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Not at all. 
So I like to be heard and 

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acknowledged when I talk. 
I don't like to be ignored. 

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So then when I, when I give a 
correction or something to you 

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out there and I'm not 
acknowledged for that and you, 

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you don't even say anything 
about you to say it doesn't even

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matter, Then it's like what I 
said didn't even matter. 

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What I said doesn't even matter 
when I say there's nothing and 

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it's being ignored. 
So now I'm being ignored again. 

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And now I'm getting more hype 
and now my hype is like I'm 

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trying to add more conflict to 
the show. 

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No, I just want to be 
acknowledged for making a 

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correct statement that that is 
not a jumpsuit. 

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It's the warm up. 
That's all I wanted. 

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Why was that so hard? 
So, OK, do you want to be? 

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You said two things. 
The next time you said you want 

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to be acknowledged and you want 
to be told that you're right. 

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Which one is both? 
I want to be acknowledged for my

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statement and when I'm right, I 
want to be told I'm right. 

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OK, and what if I don't think 
you're right? 

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Then prove I'm wrong. 
OK. 

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OK. 
When I constantly bring up 

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Beyoncé, does that make you mad?
You, you, you do get mad because

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'cause I'm scared to bring her 
up. 

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No, but you bring up Beyoncé 
doesn't make it bad. 

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I think I am on the podcast. 
I am more contrarian when you 

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bring up Beyoncé for the for the
loans. 

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But, but why be a contrarian? 
Why not just be yourself? 

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Part of my character. 
A contrarian? 

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So being a butthole is part of 
your character? 

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How much? 
Character on this podcast. 

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Just be yourself. 
You don't have to play a 

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character, the Marcus. 
You can just be yourself. 

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You're already a butthole. 
Like you don't have to play a 

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butthole the Marcus that doesn't
make. 

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Sense I'm not a big fan of 
Beyoncé and I think you and I 

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think, I think you bring up 
Beyoncé more than needed. 

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And so I have to like, I feel 
like I gotta balance that out. 

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OK, you not being a fan of 
Beyoncé is cool. 

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I don't bring up Beyoncé when 
it's not more than neither. 

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I bring her up when she comes 
up, when her album comes up, 

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when her performances come up, 
when she wins an important 

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award. 
That's when I bring her up. 

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I could bring her up every 
episode if you wanted me to. 

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We could have a new segment 
called The Beyoncé Corner, but 

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I'm not gonna do that because we
have other things to talk about.

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But when she does something in 
pop culture that's important, 

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I'm going to talk about it. 
OK. 

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And what you say? 
I said. 

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I was like, oh, now we got other
things to talk about. 

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And that's one of them. 
I can bring up Beyoncé when she 

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does something good. 
Yeah, and I don't think I ever, 

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I don't think I, I challenge you
when you bring up Beyoncé, when 

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you're like, oh, she just won 
the Country Music Awards. 

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I'm like, yes, she did, you 
know, amazing. 

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She deserves that award. 
No, every time ring you're up, 

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you start huffing and puffing 
and oh Lord, oh goodness. 

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I'll put the eye out for you. 
I don't recognize that. 

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I recognize that I am contrarian
when you bring up Beyoncé, but I

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think it's, I feel like it is 
when I feel like I feel like 

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it's when appropriate. 
I feel like I do it when 

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appropriate, but I'll keep the 
eye on that. 

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Well, I'll bring up Beyoncé more
when I bring up your little 

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country wedding. 
Does that make you mad? 

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Bring it up I'm I'm not getting 
married anytime soon for the 

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audience that's listening so you
know the wedding he's bringing 

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up. 
This happened to the cool and 

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fictional at this point, but 
it's when you the part about 

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that that makes me mad is when 
you try to draw this line in the

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sand, like, oh, if I'm not 
invited to your wed, if I'm not,

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not you because you don't say 
invite. 

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You say if I'm not in your 
wedding, we're not going to be 

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friends. 
And Jared, like, if that's a 

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hill you want to die on, you 
know, when that time comes, 

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we'll have to cross that bridge.
So how I feel in my heart makes 

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you mad? 
No, but you trying to impose 

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your feelings until my reality 
does. 

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But my feelings is my reality. 
That's. 

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But see, that's another thing 
where people annoy me all the 

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time. 
That's. 

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About what I said before you 
respond, I wanna be clear. 

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I continue. 
I said before you respond when 

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you try to impose your feelings 
on my reality, that is what 

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makes me mad. 
Alright, alright. 

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Are you done? 
OK, My feelings have the right 

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to be voiced. 
In your. 

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Reality and my feelings are 
valid in whatever reality that I

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am living in. 
So when my feelings are voiced, 

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they should be acknowledged and 
heard in whatever reality that 

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I'm living in. 
So I'm just voicing my opinion 

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and my statements in my reality 
to make it perfectly clear the 

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consequences of certain people's
actions. 

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That's all I'm doing. 
OK, if you, if you're just, if 

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you're just setting a boundary, 
that's fine. 

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Yeah. 
But oftentimes it feels like 

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you're trying to direct my 
actions or force my actions, and

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that's not going to happen. 
Oh no, I don't. 

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I don't. 
When it comes to your wedding, I

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don't want to force you because 
if I am getting, if I'm forcing 

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myself into your wedding, I 
don't want to do it at all. 

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I should be the number one 
choice When it comes to invitees

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for your wedding party, I should
be the number one choice. 

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That's all I'm saying. 
And the fact that I'm not the 

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number one choice is what makes 
me upset. 

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OK. 
And and it seems like I'm not 

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the number one to two or the 
three. 

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And that's what really gets my 
gulp because you don't have any 

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friends that you have in 15 
years that aren't in your family

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that you talk to every week. 
OK. 

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That you have a project with for
three years. 

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So just letting you know, that's
the part that I am trying to 

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vocalize. 
So you can't even be mad at 

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that. 
I could be mad at that one, OK? 

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And that's why I keep bringing 
up, 'cause I'm whatever, OK? 

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OK. 
When I say to set a date for the

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things you say you're going to 
do, does that make you mad? 

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No. 
Set a date. 

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Is it like a few dates? 
Yeah. 

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Oh yeah. 
No, but you're still not going 

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to set it. 
What did you ask me to set a 

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date for like recently? 
That ring light, I told you to 

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set a date earlier this year 
before you ordered it to make 

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sure that you ordered it. 
I think, I think what, and this 

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doesn't make me mad, I guess, 
but I think what what happens is

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that sometimes you try to tell 
me what to do and I'm an adult, 

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like you're an adult. 
You can ask me to do things. 

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You can say, hey, best thing we 
did, this is the best for 

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podcast, etcetera, etcetera. 
But you can't just be like 

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DeMarcus, you need to set a date
and make this happen. 

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I'm like, I'm not gonna now I'm 
not. 

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Gonna do it. 
I didn't say it like. 

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That I mean I was a very 
pointed. 

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So I was just starting. 
The most the point, the point 

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being, yeah, you can't. 
You can't tell me what to do. 

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And if you come at me trying to 
tell me what to do, like I'm 

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like I'm a child or like you, 
you run me. 

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Did I, I, I didn't do it like 
that. 

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All I said was after you said 
let's go ahead and do video, I 

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did impose a little bit of 
quality onto that. 

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And I said we can't do video 
unless you get a rink light. 

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And I said it again. 
Hold on. 

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Then I said it again, and again 
and again and again. 

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And finally I said maybe you 
should put a due date on it. 

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That's all I said. 
And that's just one example. 

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OK, that's not how I remember 
it, but OK. 

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And how do you remember it? 
I already explained that. 

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Because I I didn't start yelling
at you or getting aggressive. 

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I just said because I didn't 
want to do video. 

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I was happy with just the audio.
Video is much harder to edit. 

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So I was like, if he's not gonna
do it, I'm fine. 

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But since he wants to do it, 
since this is his idea, he needs

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to have that. 
We need to have that quality on 

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it. 
But yeah, short answer, no, it 

450
00:28:54,850 --> 00:28:56,090
doesn't make you mad when you 
right hand. 

451
00:28:56,170 --> 00:28:58,050
Let's put it in. 
OK. 

452
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:10,560
OK, when I won't give you a hug 
when we are in person, does that

453
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,520
make you mad? 
There you always. 

454
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,200
Hug me in person. 
Why are you lying to these 

455
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,040
people? 
Jake, why are you lying? 

456
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Why are you lying to these 
people? 

457
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,000
Dare you hug me? 
When we're in person, I don't. 

458
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,320
I don't. 
I don't. 

459
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,600
You always touch me. 
You always want to be all up 

460
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,560
under me and I told you before 
I'm uncomfortable with that, and

461
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:42,160
then you are constantly 
pestering me like a little 

462
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,280
brother that I never wanted. 
So I could, if I could, if I 

463
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,960
could turn that question around.
Does it really make you 

464
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,760
uncomfortable? 
Does it make you mad when I hug 

465
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,640
you? 
Yes. 

466
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,440
Really. 
You feel like I'm. 

467
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,080
I don't let nobody touch me like
that. 

468
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,440
You feel like I am violating 
your space when I touch. 

469
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,120
Yes. 
And and it and it genuinely 

470
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,360
offense. 
Yes, and I told you that. 

471
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,880
I told you that. 
Did you think I was joking? 

472
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,720
Yes. 
No, because I told you, I don't 

473
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,680
even let Brent do that. 
I don't let. 

474
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,360
I don't let none of my 
cheerleader friends do that. 

475
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,560
I don't let nobody do that. 
Nobody. 

476
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,440
I wasn't joking. 
OK, Jared. 

477
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,760
So, OK, let me get this 
straight. 

478
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:32,360
I said that something that you 
did made me uncomfortable and 

479
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,520
you know I was joking. 
How much was playing? 

480
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,280
This must be how girls feel when
they tell a guy something and 

481
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,440
then the guy continuously does 
it. 

482
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,120
I, I, yeah, I imagine so. 
I imagine. 

483
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:59,000
So, and I told you that is not 
my, that is not how I like to 

484
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,960
show affection. 
OK. 

485
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Do you remember what my how I 
like to show affection? 

486
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,880
What mom? 
Is do I know your love language?

487
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,760
No, I. 
Don't. 

488
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,240
OK. 
And I definitely said that. 

489
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,440
So it's like, you know, you're 
not even listening to me. 

490
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040
That's my middle name, so you 
know, I can say the same. 

491
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,600
You never told me your middle 
name. 

492
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,360
Answer. 
No, you haven't. 

493
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,240
OK. 
Have you told me your middle 

494
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:31,120
name in the past three years? 
In the past three years since we

495
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,440
started the podcast. 
Yes, since you started the 

496
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,840
podcast. 
Yeah, who doesn't talk about 

497
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,160
middle names? 
Because Lawrence was still on 

498
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,480
the show when we talked about. 
And you didn't say yours? 

499
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,280
And you didn't say yours? 
Yeah, I'm not going to say mine.

500
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,320
OK. 
And that and that's what you 

501
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,240
said. 
Yeah. 

502
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,480
Like y'all can share your middle
names, I'm not going. 

503
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,720
To say and you didn't, you 
didn't share yours. 

504
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,200
It's mine, Lawrence and I both 
said. 

505
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,160
I'm Internet but. 
OK. 

506
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,960
You reselect. 
So. 

507
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,280
So what's Laurente's? 
I don't. 

508
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:16,640
Remember just like 3 years ago? 
OK, when I won't at the end of 

509
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,040
this show before we log off, 
when I don't say I love you 

510
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:28,480
back, does that make you mad? 
No, I think I only see that as 

511
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,440
like a that's, that's something 
in you, bro, something for you 

512
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880
to figure out. 
You can't, you know, if if you 

513
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,760
if it's something you're not 
comfortable with or is it 

514
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,080
something you can't do? 
Whatever it is, that's on you. 

515
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,000
I'm not. 
Comfortable with that? 

516
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,840
I don't I don't like all that 
lovey dovey stuff. 

517
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,360
It's. 
OK. 

518
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,920
Anyway, sweet boys, we're not 
lovers, OK? 

519
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,160
Oh, when I say that Japanese 
culture is not your culture, 

520
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,080
does that make you mad? 
Excuse. 

521
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,680
Me Japanese culture is not my 
culture. 

522
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:24,320
Oh, so you admit that on the 
Patreon, but on my podcast Black

523
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Geek, on our podcast Black Geek 
Energy, you didn't say that. 

524
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,320
On KJ's podcast, you didn't say 
that. 

525
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,120
The creative culture podcast, 
you didn't say that. 

526
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,120
Yeah, it was oh, the chaotic 
culture. 

527
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,680
So I said creative. 
So it was all up and down your 

528
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,760
culture. 
But here for our 1234 

529
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,160
subscribers you are admitting 
follow. 

530
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:57,720
Out by name. 
You are admitting that Japanese 

531
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,560
culture is not your culture. 
Wow. 

532
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,159
What I think this If I remember 
correctly, this argument was not

533
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,520
about whether Japanese culture 
was my culture, it was whether 

534
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:16,000
anime is part of my culture. 
Anime specifically, I feel like 

535
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,199
it is a part of our culture. 
It's a part of E culture. 

536
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:26,840
It's a part of Latin culture. 
You said Japanese culture. 

537
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,159
You. 
Said Japanese culture. 

538
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,120
And that was the conversation 
that we had. 

539
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,840
We didn't correct it to anime 
culture, didn't correct on KJ's 

540
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,400
podcast, we didn't correct it on
our podcast. 

541
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,760
We kept. 
Saying, Jerry, you kept saying 

542
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,280
Japanese culture is not your 
culture. 

543
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,360
You kept saying it's not your 
culture, it's not your culture. 

544
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,920
And I will say anime is a part 
of. 

545
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,480
This is revisionist history. 
I said Japanese culture is not, 

546
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,400
it's not your culture episode. 
We can go back and see. 

547
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,280
And then that was the comment 
section that we had. 

548
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,400
OK, they dropped the episode. 
We can go back on this. 

549
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,360
He's he's jumping in March the 
5th, alright. 

550
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,920
Cool. 
But we have an episode where you

551
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,320
said it was your culture as 
well. 

552
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,760
I don't know. 
DeMarcus, you got to start 

553
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,280
recalling this stuff. 
I don't. 

554
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Think so my. 
Goodness. 

555
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,880
It's like you're going to be 
cancelled one day when people go

556
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,080
back and listen to our episodes 
and you're going to be like, 

557
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,800
when did I say that? 
I'll go back and do that. 

558
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,120
Happy go lucky life out of the 
public. 

559
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,880
House So if you were cancelled, 
you wouldn't do this podcast 

560
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,040
anymore. 
If I'm cancelled, why? 

561
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,520
I mean, would you, would I be 
able to do this podcast if I'm 

562
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,920
cancelled like with with me 
still remaining on the podcast 

563
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,160
like devalue? 
It, I mean freaking facts, 

564
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,560
they'll do their podcast, don't 
they? 

565
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,000
I. 
Don't think they were cancelled.

566
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,200
They definitely were cancelled. 
What? 

567
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,400
Yes, by black women. 
I don't even see them on my 

568
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680
ticket. 
List Oh, you don't see, you 

569
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,760
don't see. 
Oh, so they've been he monetized

570
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,280
the prioritized? 
They've been D something. 

571
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,360
I see them all the time on 
TikTok. 

572
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:24,320
OK, the same as cancel. 
That is canceled because nobody 

573
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,600
is re sharing them or liking 
them or commenting on them 

574
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:41,800
anymore. 
So yeah, so we would if you got 

575
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,280
cancelled, we can have a 
podcast. 

576
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,320
That's what you're saying. 
I mean, I'll still do it. 

577
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:53,960
I don't, I mean. 
OK, alright, when I say and this

578
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600
is. 
AI don't think folks would like 

579
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:59,920
say like folks wouldn't share 
our stuff they wouldn't like no 

580
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,480
more. 
So I think if I, if I got 

581
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,040
cancelled for real, I think very
quickly would no longer have a 

582
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,120
platform as as small as our 
platform. 

583
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:19,000
Yeah, OK, This is a long one 
that I've been saying since I've

584
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:27,720
known you, since I've been going
to your house and everything, 

585
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:35,920
when I say how aggressive you 
are and that you're not good 

586
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,520
with women, just not make you 
mad. 

587
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,920
Not really, because I'm I do not
take your opinion for how I am 

588
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,120
with women because you're not a 
woman. 

589
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,160
Even though Lauren said it as 
well. 

590
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,960
Lauren said the album you're. 
Aggressive with women? 

591
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,800
So Lauren, I would listen to it,
but Lauren also says like, Oh 

592
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,160
no, DeMarcus is a good guy. 
Like DeMarcus is a little 

593
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,760
aggressive, but he's he's still 
a good person. 

594
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,320
I don't think he's bad human. 
He said that. 

595
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:19,200
So my observations of you, you 
don't listen, you just ignore 

596
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,920
all those. 
I don't ignore it, but I cannot 

597
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,480
take your. 
I can't take, I can't take what 

598
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,040
you say is gospel carte blanche 
because you're not a woman. 

599
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,680
I don't deal with you the way I 
deal with them. 

600
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,360
And when you say this, I, I, 
when you say things like that, I

601
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,160
imagine you're talking about 
women out date and women out 

602
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,480
date for the most part don't 
have a problem by Mark. 

603
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:54,040
DeMarcus, your exact words were 
those years when we were talking

604
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,000
about at the round table in your
apartment. 

605
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,520
Your exact words were. 
Is my apartment when I was in 

606
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,280
college. 
Yes, OK. 

607
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,000
You and Lorante. 
Alright, cool. 

608
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,400
So when I was like 20 years old.
Yeah, OK. 

609
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,120
And you can tell you still feel 
this way. 

610
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:19,720
Your exact words were after you 
would rough up your then 

611
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:24,560
girlfriend. 
You would say they don't mind 

612
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,800
and if they minded they would 
say something to me. 

613
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,400
Rough them up. 
What do you mean rough them up? 

614
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:40,400
You would literally grab her. 
In front of us. 

615
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,640
Grabbed her like grab her arm 
or. 

616
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,640
Yes, grab her arm. 
Like you weren't abusive, but 

617
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,200
you were aggressive. 
I just wanna, I just wanna get 

618
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,040
that explicitly. 
I was not abusive. 

619
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,480
Yeah, you were not abusive, but 
you were. 

620
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,120
Aggressive. 
Two or three steps from it. 

621
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,320
Sperm. 
Aggressive. 

622
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,400
All three syllables. 
OK. 

623
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,640
And what was the original 
statement? 

624
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,360
You said that if they didn't 
like it then they would say 

625
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,960
something or something. 
I. 

626
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,160
Imagine, I do imagine that if 
someone does not like the way I 

627
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,160
treat them, they will speak up 
about it and say, Hey, I don't 

628
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,680
like the way you treat me in 
this instance. 

629
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,000
And so and even in that 
relationship, when I would say 

630
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:41,880
that personal, they definitely 
let me know what were good 

631
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,200
touches and bad touches and it 
and I would say, Jerry, if you 

632
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,640
didn't see them or hear them 
say, hey, don't do that, then 

633
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,000
well, everything is pathetic. 
But DeMarcus, you say that I'm 

634
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,400
not a woman, so I don't know how
women feel. 

635
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,400
I know how a person feels. 
I know that if you are in a 

636
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,480
relationship with somebody and 
the way that they look 

637
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:15,000
afterwards, the way that you are
treating them, the way that is, 

638
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,480
that the way that is coming off 
in the way that everybody else 

639
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,560
is reacting in the room, I know 
that that's a problem. 

640
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,920
So I know that that's 
aggressive. 

641
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Or else I went and had those 
many, many talks with you about 

642
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:36,740
the way you treat women. 
What we? 

643
00:41:37,420 --> 00:41:38,780
Well, I guess what's the 
question? 

644
00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:45,640
My question is, you said that 
because I'm not a woman I 

645
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,880
wouldn't know what they're that 
they were saying. 

646
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,720
But you are thinking of women 
and men AS2 separate things. 

647
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,080
I know how a person would react 
in that situation. 

648
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,720
Yeah, I, I, I hear what you're 
saying. 

649
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:06,320
And different people will react 
to the same situation in 

650
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:13,360
different ways. 
You know, I'm not going to 

651
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,960
because I think I think some of 
the ways you treat me, you don't

652
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,640
treat our other friends like 
this one. 

653
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,360
OK? 
I think you've had falling outs 

654
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,520
with some of our other friends 
over less than what you've done 

655
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,800
with me. 
Oh. 

656
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,400
So. 
And can you give me an example? 

657
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,680
As much as as much as you want 
to sit, as much as you're trying

658
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,960
to paint a picture that people 
are a monolith, I mean, I think 

659
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,520
we have enough evidence to see 
it or not. 

660
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,560
And, and do you have like an 
example of how I treat other 

661
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,720
people versus how I treat you 
'cause this is what this whole 

662
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:54,480
episode's about? 
I think I thought that this 

663
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,880
episode will be about, I don't 
know. 

664
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,320
I don't, I don't have any 
examples. 

665
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:05,800
I was not prepared for this. 
Conversation in notes. 

666
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,720
Oh, so then who are you talking 
about? 

667
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,240
I had a falling out with you've.
Definitely fallen out with 

668
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:23,600
Gordon and Lorante before. 
I know I mean by falling out 

669
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,360
with both of those aren't over 
things that I did or I said. 

670
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:37,160
OK. 
So I don't think that the for 

671
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,200
no. 
Reason. 

672
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,720
Huh. 
Is yeah, just come out for no 

673
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:42,920
reason. 
It was for a reason. 

674
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,760
It was for a reason. 
I know definitely with Gordon 

675
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,480
was for a reason, but and I 
can't remember with Loron say 

676
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,640
that we fell out. 
I don't know when that was. 

677
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,160
So I do remember following with 
Gordon, but that was definitely 

678
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:13,880
for a reason. 
But yeah, it wasn't for nothing 

679
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,200
that I did. 
I know. 

680
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,240
But yeah, so I don't think that 
that applies in this situation. 

681
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,160
But if you remember in here. 
Say like, oh, like, I don't, you

682
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,720
know, I didn't do anything. 
And if you were, if you were to 

683
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,800
talk to the other parties, they 
were like, Oh yeah, he did 

684
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,440
something. 
I I mean I I would like to know 

685
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,480
what I did and. 
That should have been part of 

686
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:49,680
the, you know, the makeup. 
It's not my place to. 

687
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:51,800
But I mean, you're bringing it 
up though, not. 

688
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,800
My place to connect those fast 
food. 

689
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,200
I mean, if you're gonna bring it
up then. 

690
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,520
I only bring it up as an example
of like he will, not a model. 

691
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,240
I agree people are not a model 
live, but people can see when 

692
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,360
something is suspicious, you 
know? 

693
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:20,800
I mean, I think what you see and
be like, oh, I don't like that. 

694
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Somebody else will be like, oh, 
I love that. 

695
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,640
Especially when I know when I 
was little, I watched a lot of 

696
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,840
those Lifetime movies, those 
unsolved mysteries, the what is 

697
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,560
that America's Most Wanted with 
my mother. 

698
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,720
And she had in a lot of those 
stories were about, you know, 

699
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,560
aggressive man. 
And I've always been on the 

700
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,360
lookout for that. 
And my mother had a friend I 

701
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,840
know when I was little who was 
having a domestic violence 

702
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,720
issue. 
And I remember going on to their

703
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:05,240
house when something was 
happening. 

704
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:13,040
And I just don't want to see any
woman go through that or I don't

705
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,560
want it. 
And I don't want you to have to 

706
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,160
go through anything, which 
you're, I know that you don't 

707
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,000
have like anger issues, but I 
don't know. 

708
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,360
It just seemed that you're kind 
of aggressive and we've had 

709
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,960
these suggestions before, so. 
Yeah, and I don't, I don't 

710
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,080
disagree with you that I can be 
assertive. 

711
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,280
Some people would be that 
saying, oh, it's aggressive. 

712
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,920
I I do not think it has been an 
issue in my. 

713
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:54,560
Life the way you are paying it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

714
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,680
But I mean, we both have two 
different life experiences. 

715
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,840
Absolutely do and I don't we've 
been I don't think you should 

716
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,280
have been there when what's your
mom's friend was something was 

717
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,440
going on I. 
Didn't have nowhere else to go. 

718
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,560
I was young, understand? 
I didn't have a dad, so I 

719
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,760
couldn't just stay at the house 
by myself. 

720
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,040
At 5 I don't think I should have
been there either, but. 

721
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,000
And I think it's, I think it's 
sort of like painted your 

722
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,200
beautiful world. 
It definitely did, and it made 

723
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,320
me see the real. 
OK. 

724
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:37,200
Alright, so it seems like the 
Marcus, I don't ever make you 

725
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,560
mad. 
That's I don't think. 

726
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,160
That's that's what you just you 
said no to all of these I. 

727
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Didn't say no to all of. 
These OK, you said no, but 

728
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,720
sometimes. 
I think. 

729
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:58,360
Some of these I think, I think, 
I think a lot of these boil down

730
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,920
our some of our interactions to 
and miss the point. 

731
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,640
And miss the point. 
Yeah, they I think they missed 

732
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,480
the thing that does make the 
map. 

733
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,320
Oh, and. 
What is it? 

734
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,360
Well, I mean, it depends on 
which one, because I mean we 

735
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440
just talked through it. 
It depends on which one you're 

736
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,960
talking about. 
And I and I at a certain point 

737
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,200
in these questions, I was like, 
oh, these are not about me. 

738
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:33,640
These are about people. 
OK, how so? 

739
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,800
Because I will say like, like, 
oh, like, oh, because you do 

740
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,120
this thing this, you know, when 
you do this thing this way, it 

741
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,280
makes man you like, well, I do 
it that way because this is how 

742
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,240
I feel and I want this. 
And I'm like, you got it, Jerry.

743
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,200
I did not say anything in that 
tone. 

744
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:56,960
You know, OK. 
But I think that I have the 

745
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,080
right to have a rebuttal. 
Yeah, sure. 

746
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,720
I mean, and, and I think that 
just like I said, I realized 

747
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:06,400
like, oh, this is not about 
this. 

748
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,520
Is about you. 
It is about you. 

749
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:13,360
How you it was about you, Jared,
Because you, because what are 

750
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,440
you taking from this 
conversation? 

751
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,080
I am taking that 'cause even 
when I was up late at night 

752
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,200
writing this, think about all of
our previous conversations, I am

753
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,920
taking that, you know, we need 
to have a better relationship 

754
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,240
and I'm not trying to fall out 
with you. 

755
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Say it again. 
I said I'm not trying to fall 

756
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,480
out with you. 
I appreciate. 

757
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:43,040
That. 
So we need to boil down all this

758
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:50,120
stuff and that may make you mad.
OK. 

759
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:56,160
So I'm trying to get to the 
bottom of what those may mean. 

760
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,480
After this conversation, you 
feel like, oh, you don't make 

761
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,000
me. 
Mad. 

762
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:06,920
'Cause that's what you just 
said. 

763
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,760
After this conversation, I don't
think that I make you mad like I

764
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,120
thought I was making you mad. 
OK. 

765
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:24,200
But after this conversation, you
know, I know what jokes are 

766
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,600
saying, what jokes like to say. 
Think, I think that's the point 

767
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,360
I was making earlier. 
Like I think these boiled down 

768
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,560
some of the interactions we've 
had and they missed the point. 

769
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,880
They missed the thing that made 
me mad. 

770
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,840
So like you said, you don't make
me mad like you thought. 

771
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,520
I think the things that you 
thought made me mad don't make 

772
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,560
people. 
Yeah. 

773
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,920
Is there anything else? 
Honestly, we don't we we over 

774
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,400
time. 
No, I mean, is there anything 

775
00:50:52,400 --> 00:51:02,960
else that makes you mad? 
Not that not I guess. 

776
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,960
Not that not from this list. 
OK, so like. 

777
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,000
I've said, I've said the things 
I've said the things that make 

778
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,120
me mad as they apply to this 
list. 

779
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,800
Yeah, I know. 
But is there anything else that 

780
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,960
wasn't on this list there he? 
I mean, I, I don't, I don't have

781
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,680
a red ball to it. 
Probably pretty much like that. 

782
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,400
And you? 
Said you didn't have the where 

783
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,280
where the dog here. 
The dog. 

784
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,360
To break it down right now or. 
Well, there we overtime and I'm 

785
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:44,680
hungry alright. 
Alright, so I guess this was a 

786
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,000
bad list for both of us. 
I don't think so. 

787
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,280
I think it was a step in the 
right direction to start to weed

788
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:59,440
some things out. 
Well, hopefully in the future 

789
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:10,400
things can be a little bit more,
you know, playfully peaceful, 

790
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,480
but nothing's really happened. 
I would just like, you know, 

791
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,400
it's late at night thinking when
I couldn't go to sleep. 

792
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:21,080
Yeah. 
Alright. 

793
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:26,760
So if anything comes up, let me 
know and we can address it. 

794
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,600
See if it makes you mad or not. 
I. 

795
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,720
Don't like what you framing It's
like does it make the markets 

796
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,760
mad? 
Why not? 

797
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,280
I don't know. 
It's like, it's like you're 

798
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:51,400
putting it all on me. 
The mic is out told. 

799
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:57,400
I mean, I don't know how to else
to say it 'cause like when you 

800
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,280
make me mad is when you cut me 
off. 

801
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,000
I say that multiple times in 
multiple different ways. 

802
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,960
I say like ignored. 
I said not acknowledge. 

803
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,840
I said, you know, like I'm not 
here, you don't listen. 

804
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,240
I said that most of different 
ways. 

805
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,800
That's what makes me mad, point 
blank, period. 

806
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,080
So you don't care about that? 
I do. 

807
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,000
Got that? 
And whenever you sorry, go 

808
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,000
ahead, I don't mean to cut you 
off. 

809
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,400
I thought you were done talking,
I mean. 

810
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:35,840
But when I'm and I just forgot 
what my line of that was. 

811
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,440
I'm just trying to make sure 
that I do not make you feel the 

812
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,320
same that you make me feel. 
You. 

813
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,720
Know. 
I appreciate. 

814
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,160
That all right guys, so that is 
the end of this Patreon. 

815
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:09,480
If you tell your friends, tell 
your friends to go ahead and hit

816
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:16,800
that subscribe button, and then 
I cost $3, which is nothing. 

817
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,880
It's like. 
You get a small coffee instead 

818
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,640
of a large, and that's your 
Patreon thing for a month. 

819
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,680
You only got to do that one 
time. 

820
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,400
You get coffee every day. 
Yeah, or. 

821
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,440
At least you don't finish. 
You don't finish the whole 

822
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,200
coffee. 
You get the Binti and you don't 

823
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,480
finish it. 
I'm sorry, Jerry. 

824
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,840
I gotta eat that. 
Had to get that out. 

825
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,000
OK, but. 
No, that's all I want to say. 

826
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,480
Alright, bye. 
Bye.

