All right guys, welcome to our last Patreon exclusive.
Next week we will be back with more BGE and more things of that
nature, but. This more anime, more comic
books, more superheroes, more Garrett, more DeMarcus, more
black heat energy in all new new year, new me, new you or the
same you and you know the newest hopefully some different hair.
Who me? Yeah, that's good.
Thank you and hopefully it looks good for our first show.
Like my hair be looking a mess on this podcast?
Sometimes there's sometimes you having a you be having a fresh
cut, bro. Sometimes you'd be like you
ready. I'll be having like 5 fresh cuts
out of 50 episodes so. Yeah, sometimes you come in here
looking like you're ready for a date, brother.
I'm just saying. And sometimes I look at like I'm
homeless and nobody loves me. Per your words, you have said
that actually. I said that to you.
You said last week when you did not have your hair cut, you look
like nobody in the universe loved you, and I've never
forgotten that. Never forgotten that.
But hey, that's how I look. Anyways, on this episode, I
asked the important question. Do I make the Marcus mad?
This was probably our oh, this was probably our most impactful
episode that we've ever done. This was probably the episode
that I keep going back to. And this is the episode that I
think that it turned the podcast around.
Like I understood a lot more about you after this episode.
I think this is where things started turn around, 'cause like
you've been listening all last year, you probably noticed
things became a bit more contentious, a bit more tense in
the, in the in on the show as you, as you listened to it.
And, and then as we got toward the middle of the year, you
know, you can tell, you may have been able to tell that Jared and
I were two different places. And this is the episode where we
try to find some common ground. We get back on the same page.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This episode it was, it was kind
of hard. It was a harder episode, but I
think that getting it out made us closer together, even though
I'm still not invited to the big ceremony.
And this big ceremony is probably going to happen soon
because they live together now in sin.
So it's probably going to happen soon.
Nothing wrong with a little city of sin Sin.
Right. So yes, listen to probably our
best Patriot episode. We're releasing this for free.
Hope you enjoy, but this is the Marcus goes to therapy and you
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And just thank you so much for even listening to this.
And and yeah, we will see you next week with a brand new
episode of brand new DeMarcus, a brand new Jardo and a brand new
black energy. I'll have a new backdrop and
everything. Oh, new backdrop.
So yeah. And by the end I'm have my my,
my, my decorating. I'm going to see anime art, all
of it through this room. Hopefully Sailor Moon.
No anime art that I already have.
So like Avatar Last Airbender, Demon Slayer, maybe even a what
you call that thing in in DND? You hackasho.
No DND with all the eyeballs. A beholder.
The beholder. Yeah, maybe even a beholder.
Yeah. So be prepared for that for next
week. We will see you there with a
brand new Black Eek energy. And yeah, bye guys.
BGE out. OK, this is the Patreon, High
Patreon. So DeMarcus, is there anything
you want to talk about today? I don't.
Have hey, I don't think are we going to make another list for
like episode list for the Patreon things to talk about.
I do have a random question for. You, yes.
What are your thoughts on immigration?
Immigration. Immigration.
Let them all in. Who?
Are they? Hurting.
Who are they hurting? Immigrants have done nothing to
me. I mean have done nothing to
this. Country, I guess I should say.
What about like illegal immigration?
Like people, let them in. Let them all in.
We should have open borders. Culture here come in all they
want. First off, this country was
founded on having open borders, and I'm not talking about New
York, I'm talking about the 13 original colonies.
This this country was founded on stealing.
Take care. Exactly.
For the folks.
Yeah. Exactly.
So this land is not ours. We cannot claim it.
Let them in. They just want to work and get
away from whatever they're doing.
Or looking for new opportunities.
Why not? That's selfish.
Let them in. Why?
How do you feel about it? I do believe that there should,
there should be an easier way. It should be easier to to come
into the country. I also think I also don't think
there should be like open board because think about it.
Think about this way, like if your neighbor's house burned
down and then they came to your house and just started living
there, didn't talk to you about it, just started living in your
house. We'll be like who?
Everybody come on in. DeMarcus, you're talking about a
neighbor's house burning down, so it's a neighbor still living
there. Begin.
Is a neighbor still living there?
It's an extreme example the answer.
I mean, it's an extreme example that doesn't really match up to
the country being open. OK, OK, OK.
Let's say let's let's paint it this way.
You have a mansion. You and your family live in a
mansion. You're there is also another
mansion a few miles down the road.
That mansion, I don't know, something happens to it where
some people want to leave, other people find staying.
But after those folks decide to leave and they just start moving
into your mansion, I'll talk to you about it.
Oh. Once once you find out what's
your are you just like oh cool, y'all, y'all can stay or is it
like yo, why are y'all here like what's going on?
Is that still? Not a good one to one example of
immigration. Means I'm not going to be able
to make a one to one example of like, oh, what if you had a
country and folks just start coming into your country?
I think you know, I'm trying to break it down well.
You don't have to break it down. I'm not a child.
I understand the immigrant process in this country.
I understand all the worries. But like what?
What are you? What are your concerns with
people coming in, getting their citizenship or not getting their
I? Don't have a problem with folks
coming in and getting their citizenship like I just I, I
don't think, I don't think it should just be like everybody
come in whenever you want to hire you.
OK. And why?
I think there should be a process because we can't do
that. We, we Americans cannot do that
anywhere else. Like even when even even if
we're talking about places where even if we're talking about
places where like where, where we get like the most first PG or
something like that. Like we can't just go over there
and be like, alright, cool, I live here now.
I. Mean true.
There should be a process for when you come.
In that's my only point there should be.
A process, yeah, Yeah, there should be a process.
I do agree with that. It should be a process.
So. So where's this coming from?
I'm gonna say it's a random question.
And I've been seeing a lot of, like, stuff on the news, like,
and like, he called the immigrants out.
I'm like, hey, that's too far. I'm not about it.
Like, people, nobody's ready to come to America.
South Americans. I'm like, that's not, you know,
so are we talking about Native Americans?
Like what are we talking about? Those are white people talking
about stuff that they don't even really know about what's going.
On I agree and I, you know, I'm not good.
I'm not being I don't have like the most information about like
what immigration looks like and what it does to a country
either. So I'm not the best person to
comment. The thing is, I don't think that
nobody will want to leave their country unless under extreme
circumstances. Oh, absolutely.
They have to. So if they have to, if they're
forced out of their country, then we should be welcoming
people who feel that they need to come to this country with
open arms and let them attain their.
And I do agree with you that, yeah, I'm saying you kind of low
now. I can be.
I can, I'm sorry. I do agree that this country,
one of the things that this country has, I don't know if I
want to say founding them, but that one of the things that our
country has always done is allow people to move here to make a
better life for themselves, which is, you know, it's kind of
one of the things that was planted on.
But I don't want to say that. So, yeah, I think that should be
like one of our staples. It's like you can come to
America and that's a matter of fact.
It's like the it's part of the American dream.
It's like I I come here and I now make something out of
myself. Yeah, it's definitely part of
the American dream, but everything is changing now.
Yeah. So they call.
It the American Dream 'cause if you woke, you can't let you see
it ain't real. Yeah, and that's the original
Mean Awoke by the way that we've been using long before white
people took it and colonized it. But on today's episode since you
so you don't have nothing else to really say And no, we we are
not doing a episode list for the Patreon.
I'm not thinking that far ahead. We just going to come in here
and start yapping all. Right.
Why do you think we need one? I mean, well, sometimes I have,
I mean I could just have a list for myself, but sometimes I'd be
like, oh, I want to talk about this one picture on, but then I
forget by the time it come. Up.
Oh yeah, make a list for yourself 'cause on one of my
sleepless nights I came up with a list to talk about today and I
wrote it down. It's right here if you can see
it. And it is actually some things
that I had to look upon myself on things that, you know, make
you mad. You know, I'm trying to make
this podcast very successful. I'm trying to make us last for
three more years, you know, six more years, 18 more years trying
to make this successful place. But I think that in this
journey, we both have to be connected in ways that are
unprecedented. And I know that, you know,
sometimes I may test the limits of our friendship with, you
know, some of the jokes that I say.
And I just wanted to look and just ask you do things that I
say make you mad. And I was going to go down do a
list of these that may make you mad you.
Just want a yes or no. No, no, no, no.
I don't want a yes or this is not a quick fire.
But if that's all that you have, then you know I can't force you
to get me another answer. But if, if, if you were
indulged, indulge me 'cause you know I haven't saw me yet.
So I I wrote down the list, you'll indulge, indulge me.
I just want to ask you some things that that I've said or do
reoccurrently that may make you mad.
And I have 10 of these, so you'll indulge me.
Are you ready? I am prepared.
OK, alright, so sit. On his laughing.
No, I'm laughing 'cause you laughing.
All right, so all right, So question number one, and this is
all stuff that I'm asking you, do I make you mad, DeMarcus?
So when I say when I call you a man in a wig, does that make you
mad? When I say that you know your
hair isn't real and you purchase it at the 99 Six store, does
that make you mad? I think it I think that one, and
I think this might be the case for a lot of things is that it
depends. Now if it's like a one off
comment thing, you're making a joke.
My hair is not a wig. We can, but when it's like I
think when you start to like lean in, like fix it and it's
like, I don't know, I want everyone to agree with me that
his hair is a wig. It's like, Jerry, what the fuck
are we doing? We're wasting time.
We got better things to talk about.
So. So it does make you mad.
You can make me mad, it has the potential.
And has it made you mad in the past?
I think so. I think so.
I think you have dragged it like like I said, it depends.
And when you be dragging it, I'll be like, bro, OK.
OK, well, you know that just it's what it looks like.
Maybe it's the the camera quality, but it's next one when
I do that. It doesn't matter what you say.
Does that make you mad? No that.
One is bad, OK. Yeah, I mean, that's just a
piece of me giving you a piece of your own medicine where you
always cut me off and then I go. I don't think I ever told you it
doesn't matter. No, but you always cut me off.
I do. I do do that and I think that's
a part of personality. That's something I'm working.
On Well, that's just a part of that's just, that's just me
giving you what you always give me.
That's fine. When I correct you on things
like Superman getting weaker at night, does that make you mad?
No, sometimes I think you like splitting hairs.
Sometimes I'm like, it's like with the Superman thing, he was
like, does he get weaker at night?
And I was like, no, you like. You said yes, no, no, no.
OK, so so so I did that that question during when I was doing
the activities thing on the Patreon.
But you originally said on the main episode a long time ago
that Superman gets weaker at night.
And if I was correcting you, you got mad.
Saying that, but we're talking about recently on the Patreon we
had said I was like no, no. Well, I guess general answer,
no, I don't. You corrected me.
Doesn't make it. I think I'm gonna say no.
I'm gonna leave that now. So then what is this about
splitting hairs? Splitting hairs.
I mean jerks. I'm like, 'cause like we were
talking about Naruto on the main 5 and he was like, I'm like,
it's a jumpsuit. You're like, it's a warm up.
And I'm like, Jerry, does that really matter?
Yes, jumpsuit and warmers are two separate things.
Can you know that? In the context of this of that
question, does it really matter? Yes.
It does really matter the correct.
Attire. Is it something that we have to
fight tooth and nail for? DeMarcus, it matters, and I was
right. Is it something that we have to
fight tooth and nail for? No, just admit that I'm right.
That's that's. OK, so so so why can't you admit
that I'm. Right.
I think that's what irritates me when it's like a small
distinction that does not make a difference and and you start
fighting tooth and nail for it. I'm just like Jerry, this
doesn't matter. OK, it doesn't matter, but it
matters to me down right. And I think I'm, and I think
what I'm, I'm, I'm trying to, what I'm starting, I'm trying to
take it as like you're trying to, you're trying to, you know,
add conflict or spice to the podcast, the show.
Not at all. So I like to be heard and
acknowledged when I talk. I don't like to be ignored.
So then when I, when I give a correction or something to you
out there and I'm not acknowledged for that and you,
you don't even say anything about you to say it doesn't even
matter, Then it's like what I said didn't even matter.
What I said doesn't even matter when I say there's nothing and
it's being ignored. So now I'm being ignored again.
And now I'm getting more hype and now my hype is like I'm
trying to add more conflict to the show.
No, I just want to be acknowledged for making a
correct statement that that is not a jumpsuit.
It's the warm up. That's all I wanted.
Why was that so hard? So, OK, do you want to be?
You said two things. The next time you said you want
to be acknowledged and you want to be told that you're right.
Which one is both? I want to be acknowledged for my
statement and when I'm right, I want to be told I'm right.
OK, and what if I don't think you're right?
Then prove I'm wrong. OK.
When I constantly bring up
Beyoncé, does that make you mad? You, you, you do get mad because
'cause I'm scared to bring her up.
No, but you bring up Beyoncé doesn't make it bad.
I think I am on the podcast. I am more contrarian when you
bring up Beyoncé for the for the loans.
But, but why be a contrarian? Why not just be yourself?
Part of my character. A contrarian?
So being a butthole is part of your character?
How much? Character on this podcast.
Just be yourself. You don't have to play a
character, the Marcus. You can just be yourself.
You're already a butthole. Like you don't have to play a
butthole the Marcus that doesn't make.
Sense I'm not a big fan of Beyoncé and I think you and I
think, I think you bring up Beyoncé more than needed.
And so I have to like, I feel like I gotta balance that out.
OK, you not being a fan of Beyoncé is cool.
I don't bring up Beyoncé when it's not more than neither.
I bring her up when she comes up, when her album comes up,
when her performances come up, when she wins an important
award. That's when I bring her up.
I could bring her up every episode if you wanted me to.
We could have a new segment called The Beyoncé Corner, but
I'm not gonna do that because we have other things to talk about.
But when she does something in pop culture that's important,
I'm going to talk about it. OK.
And what you say? I said.
I was like, oh, now we got other things to talk about.
And that's one of them. I can bring up Beyoncé when she
does something good. Yeah, and I don't think I ever,
I don't think I, I challenge you when you bring up Beyoncé, when
you're like, oh, she just won the Country Music Awards.
I'm like, yes, she did, you know, amazing.
She deserves that award. No, every time ring you're up,
you start huffing and puffing and oh Lord, oh goodness.
I'll put the eye out for you. I don't recognize that.
I recognize that I am contrarian when you bring up Beyoncé, but I
think it's, I feel like it is when I feel like I feel like
it's when appropriate. I feel like I do it when
appropriate, but I'll keep the eye on that.
Well, I'll bring up Beyoncé more when I bring up your little
country wedding. Does that make you mad?
Bring it up I'm I'm not getting married anytime soon for the
audience that's listening so you know the wedding he's bringing
up. This happened to the cool and
fictional at this point, but it's when you the part about
that that makes me mad is when you try to draw this line in the
sand, like, oh, if I'm not invited to your wed, if I'm not,
not you because you don't say invite.
You say if I'm not in your wedding, we're not going to be
friends. And Jared, like, if that's a
hill you want to die on, you know, when that time comes,
we'll have to cross that bridge. So how I feel in my heart makes
you mad? No, but you trying to impose
your feelings until my reality does.
But my feelings is my reality. That's.
But see, that's another thing where people annoy me all the
time. That's.
About what I said before you respond, I wanna be clear.
I continue. I said before you respond when
you try to impose your feelings on my reality, that is what
makes me mad. Alright, alright.
Are you done? OK, My feelings have the right
to be voiced. In your.
Reality and my feelings are valid in whatever reality that I
am living in. So when my feelings are voiced,
they should be acknowledged and heard in whatever reality that
I'm living in. So I'm just voicing my opinion
and my statements in my reality to make it perfectly clear the
consequences of certain people's actions.
That's all I'm doing. OK, if you, if you're just, if
you're just setting a boundary, that's fine.
Yeah. But oftentimes it feels like
you're trying to direct my actions or force my actions, and
that's not going to happen. Oh no, I don't.
I don't. When it comes to your wedding, I
don't want to force you because if I am getting, if I'm forcing
myself into your wedding, I don't want to do it at all.
I should be the number one choice When it comes to invitees
for your wedding party, I should be the number one choice.
That's all I'm saying. And the fact that I'm not the
number one choice is what makes me upset.
OK. And and it seems like I'm not
the number one to two or the three.
And that's what really gets my gulp because you don't have any
friends that you have in 15 years that aren't in your family
that you talk to every week. OK.
That you have a project with for three years.
So just letting you know, that's the part that I am trying to
vocalize. So you can't even be mad at
that. I could be mad at that one, OK?
And that's why I keep bringing up, 'cause I'm whatever, OK?
OK. When I say to set a date for the
things you say you're going to do, does that make you mad?
No. Set a date.
Is it like a few dates? Yeah.
Oh yeah. No, but you're still not going
to set it. What did you ask me to set a
date for like recently? That ring light, I told you to
set a date earlier this year before you ordered it to make
sure that you ordered it. I think, I think what, and this
doesn't make me mad, I guess, but I think what what happens is
that sometimes you try to tell me what to do and I'm an adult,
like you're an adult. You can ask me to do things.
You can say, hey, best thing we did, this is the best for
podcast, etcetera, etcetera. But you can't just be like
DeMarcus, you need to set a date and make this happen.
I'm like, I'm not gonna now I'm not.
Gonna do it. I didn't say it like.
That I mean I was a very pointed.
So I was just starting. The most the point, the point
being, yeah, you can't. You can't tell me what to do.
And if you come at me trying to tell me what to do, like I'm
like I'm a child or like you, you run me.
Did I, I, I didn't do it like that.
All I said was after you said let's go ahead and do video, I
did impose a little bit of quality onto that.
And I said we can't do video unless you get a rink light.
And I said it again. Hold on.
Then I said it again, and again and again and again.
And finally I said maybe you should put a due date on it.
That's all I said. And that's just one example.
OK, that's not how I remember it, but OK.
And how do you remember it? I already explained that.
Because I I didn't start yelling at you or getting aggressive.
I just said because I didn't want to do video.
I was happy with just the audio. Video is much harder to edit.
So I was like, if he's not gonna do it, I'm fine.
But since he wants to do it, since this is his idea, he needs
to have that. We need to have that quality on
it. But yeah, short answer, no, it
doesn't make you mad when you right hand.
Let's put it in. OK.
OK, when I won't give you a hug when we are in person, does that
make you mad? There you always.
Hug me in person. Why are you lying to these
people? Jake, why are you lying?
Why are you lying to these people?
Dare you hug me? When we're in person, I don't.
I don't. I don't.
You always touch me. You always want to be all up
under me and I told you before I'm uncomfortable with that, and
then you are constantly pestering me like a little
brother that I never wanted. So I could, if I could, if I
could turn that question around. Does it really make you
uncomfortable? Does it make you mad when I hug
you? Yes.
Really. You feel like I'm.
I don't let nobody touch me like that.
You feel like I am violating your space when I touch.
Yes. And and it and it genuinely
offense. Yes, and I told you that.
I told you that. Did you think I was joking?
Yes. No, because I told you, I don't
even let Brent do that. I don't let.
I don't let none of my cheerleader friends do that.
I don't let nobody do that. Nobody.
I wasn't joking. OK, Jared.
So, OK, let me get this straight.
I said that something that you did made me uncomfortable and
you know I was joking. How much was playing?
This must be how girls feel when they tell a guy something and
then the guy continuously does it.
I, I, yeah, I imagine so. I imagine.
So, and I told you that is not my, that is not how I like to
show affection. OK.
Do you remember what my how I like to show affection?
What mom? Is do I know your love language?
No, I. Don't.
OK. And I definitely said that.
So it's like, you know, you're not even listening to me.
That's my middle name, so you know, I can say the same.
You never told me your middle name.
Answer. No, you haven't.
OK. Have you told me your middle
name in the past three years? In the past three years since we
started the podcast. Yes, since you started the
podcast. Yeah, who doesn't talk about
middle names? Because Lawrence was still on
the show when we talked about. And you didn't say yours?
Yeah, I'm not going to say mine.
OK. And that and that's what you
said. Yeah.
Like y'all can share your middle names, I'm not going.
To say and you didn't, you didn't share yours.
It's mine, Lawrence and I both said.
I'm Internet but. OK.
You reselect. So.
So what's Laurente's? I don't.
Remember just like 3 years ago? OK, when I won't at the end of
this show before we log off, when I don't say I love you
back, does that make you mad? No, I think I only see that as
like a that's, that's something in you, bro, something for you
to figure out. You can't, you know, if if you
if it's something you're not comfortable with or is it
something you can't do? Whatever it is, that's on you.
I'm not. Comfortable with that?
I don't I don't like all that lovey dovey stuff.
It's. OK.
Anyway, sweet boys, we're not lovers, OK?
Oh, when I say that Japanese culture is not your culture,
does that make you mad? Excuse.
Me Japanese culture is not my culture.
Oh, so you admit that on the Patreon, but on my podcast Black
Geek, on our podcast Black Geek Energy, you didn't say that.
On KJ's podcast, you didn't say that.
The creative culture podcast, you didn't say that.
Yeah, it was oh, the chaotic culture.
So I said creative. So it was all up and down your
culture. But here for our 1234
subscribers you are admitting follow.
Out by name. You are admitting that Japanese
culture is not your culture. Wow.
What I think this If I remember correctly, this argument was not
about whether Japanese culture was my culture, it was whether
anime is part of my culture. Anime specifically, I feel like
it is a part of our culture. It's a part of E culture.
It's a part of Latin culture. You said Japanese culture.
You. Said Japanese culture.
And that was the conversation that we had.
We didn't correct it to anime culture, didn't correct on KJ's
podcast, we didn't correct it on our podcast.
We kept. Saying, Jerry, you kept saying
Japanese culture is not your culture.
You kept saying it's not your culture, it's not your culture.
And I will say anime is a part of.
This is revisionist history. I said Japanese culture is not,
it's not your culture episode. We can go back and see.
And then that was the comment section that we had.
OK, they dropped the episode. We can go back on this.
He's he's jumping in March the 5th, alright.
Cool. But we have an episode where you
said it was your culture as well.
I don't know. DeMarcus, you got to start
recalling this stuff. I don't.
Think so my. Goodness.
It's like you're going to be cancelled one day when people go
back and listen to our episodes and you're going to be like,
when did I say that? I'll go back and do that.
Happy go lucky life out of the public.
House So if you were cancelled, you wouldn't do this podcast
anymore. If I'm cancelled, why?
I mean, would you, would I be able to do this podcast if I'm
cancelled like with with me still remaining on the podcast
like devalue? It, I mean freaking facts,
they'll do their podcast, don't they?
I. Don't think they were cancelled.
They definitely were cancelled. What?
Yes, by black women. I don't even see them on my
ticket. List Oh, you don't see, you
don't see. Oh, so they've been he monetized
the prioritized? They've been D something.
I see them all the time on TikTok.
OK, the same as cancel. That is canceled because nobody
is re sharing them or liking them or commenting on them
anymore. So yeah, so we would if you got
cancelled, we can have a podcast.
That's what you're saying. I mean, I'll still do it.
I don't, I mean. OK, alright, when I say and this
is. AI don't think folks would like
say like folks wouldn't share our stuff they wouldn't like no
more. So I think if I, if I got
cancelled for real, I think very quickly would no longer have a
platform as as small as our platform.
Yeah, OK, This is a long one that I've been saying since I've
known you, since I've been going to your house and everything,
when I say how aggressive you are and that you're not good
with women, just not make you mad.
Not really, because I'm I do not take your opinion for how I am
with women because you're not a woman.
Even though Lauren said it as well.
Lauren said the album you're. Aggressive with women?
So Lauren, I would listen to it, but Lauren also says like, Oh
no, DeMarcus is a good guy. Like DeMarcus is a little
aggressive, but he's he's still a good person.
I don't think he's bad human. He said that.
So my observations of you, you don't listen, you just ignore
all those. I don't ignore it, but I cannot
take your. I can't take, I can't take what
you say is gospel carte blanche because you're not a woman.
I don't deal with you the way I deal with them.
And when you say this, I, I, when you say things like that, I
imagine you're talking about women out date and women out
date for the most part don't have a problem by Mark.
DeMarcus, your exact words were those years when we were talking
about at the round table in your apartment.
Your exact words were. Is my apartment when I was in
college. Yes, OK.
You and Lorante. Alright, cool.
So when I was like 20 years old. Yeah, OK.
And you can tell you still feel this way.
Your exact words were after you would rough up your then
girlfriend. You would say they don't mind
and if they minded they would say something to me.
Rough them up. What do you mean rough them up?
You would literally grab her. In front of us.
Grabbed her like grab her arm or.
Yes, grab her arm. Like you weren't abusive, but
you were aggressive. I just wanna, I just wanna get
that explicitly. I was not abusive.
Yeah, you were not abusive, but you were.
Aggressive. Two or three steps from it.
Sperm. Aggressive.
All three syllables. OK.
And what was the original statement?
You said that if they didn't like it then they would say
something or something. I.
Imagine, I do imagine that if someone does not like the way I
treat them, they will speak up about it and say, Hey, I don't
like the way you treat me in this instance.
And so and even in that relationship, when I would say
that personal, they definitely let me know what were good
touches and bad touches and it and I would say, Jerry, if you
didn't see them or hear them say, hey, don't do that, then
well, everything is pathetic. But DeMarcus, you say that I'm
not a woman, so I don't know how women feel.
I know how a person feels. I know that if you are in a
relationship with somebody and the way that they look
afterwards, the way that you are treating them, the way that is,
that the way that is coming off in the way that everybody else
is reacting in the room, I know that that's a problem.
So I know that that's aggressive.
Or else I went and had those many, many talks with you about
the way you treat women. What we?
Well, I guess what's the question?
My question is, you said that because I'm not a woman I
wouldn't know what they're that they were saying.
But you are thinking of women and men AS2 separate things.
I know how a person would react in that situation.
Yeah, I, I, I hear what you're saying.
And different people will react to the same situation in
different ways. You know, I'm not going to
because I think I think some of the ways you treat me, you don't
treat our other friends like this one.
OK? I think you've had falling outs
with some of our other friends over less than what you've done
with me. Oh.
So. And can you give me an example?
As much as as much as you want to sit, as much as you're trying
to paint a picture that people are a monolith, I mean, I think
we have enough evidence to see it or not.
And, and do you have like an example of how I treat other
people versus how I treat you 'cause this is what this whole
episode's about? I think I thought that this
episode will be about, I don't know.
I don't, I don't have any examples.
I was not prepared for this. Conversation in notes.
Oh, so then who are you talking about?
I had a falling out with you've. Definitely fallen out with
Gordon and Lorante before. I know I mean by falling out
with both of those aren't over things that I did or I said.
OK. So I don't think that the for
no. Reason.
Huh. Is yeah, just come out for no
reason. It was for a reason.
I know definitely with Gordon
was for a reason, but and I can't remember with Loron say
that we fell out. I don't know when that was.
So I do remember following with Gordon, but that was definitely
for a reason. But yeah, it wasn't for nothing
that I did. I know.
But yeah, so I don't think that that applies in this situation.
But if you remember in here. Say like, oh, like, I don't, you
know, I didn't do anything. And if you were, if you were to
talk to the other parties, they were like, Oh yeah, he did
something. I I mean I I would like to know
what I did and. That should have been part of
the, you know, the makeup. It's not my place to.
But I mean, you're bringing it up though, not.
My place to connect those fast food.
I mean, if you're gonna bring it up then.
I only bring it up as an example of like he will, not a model.
I agree people are not a model live, but people can see when
something is suspicious, you know?
I mean, I think what you see and be like, oh, I don't like that.
Somebody else will be like, oh, I love that.
Especially when I know when I was little, I watched a lot of
those Lifetime movies, those unsolved mysteries, the what is
that America's Most Wanted with my mother.
And she had in a lot of those stories were about, you know,
aggressive man. And I've always been on the
lookout for that. And my mother had a friend I
know when I was little who was having a domestic violence
issue. And I remember going on to their
house when something was happening.
And I just don't want to see any woman go through that or I don't
want it. And I don't want you to have to
go through anything, which you're, I know that you don't
have like anger issues, but I don't know.
It just seemed that you're kind of aggressive and we've had
these suggestions before, so. Yeah, and I don't, I don't
disagree with you that I can be assertive.
Some people would be that saying, oh, it's aggressive.
I I do not think it has been an issue in my.
Life the way you are paying it. Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, we both have two different life experiences.
Absolutely do and I don't we've been I don't think you should
have been there when what's your mom's friend was something was
going on I. Didn't have nowhere else to go.
I was young, understand? I didn't have a dad, so I
couldn't just stay at the house by myself.
At 5 I don't think I should have been there either, but.
And I think it's, I think it's sort of like painted your
beautiful world. It definitely did, and it made
me see the real. OK.
Alright, so it seems like the Marcus, I don't ever make you
mad. That's I don't think.
That's that's what you just you said no to all of these I.
Didn't say no to all of. These OK, you said no, but
sometimes. I think.
Some of these I think, I think, I think a lot of these boil down
our some of our interactions to and miss the point.
And miss the point. Yeah, they I think they missed
the thing that does make the map.
Oh, and. What is it?
Well, I mean, it depends on which one, because I mean we
just talked through it. It depends on which one you're
talking about. And I and I at a certain point
in these questions, I was like, oh, these are not about me.
These are about people. OK, how so?
Because I will say like, like, oh, like, oh, because you do
this thing this, you know, when you do this thing this way, it
makes man you like, well, I do it that way because this is how
I feel and I want this. And I'm like, you got it, Jerry.
I did not say anything in that tone.
You know, OK. But I think that I have the
right to have a rebuttal. Yeah, sure.
I mean, and, and I think that just like I said, I realized
like, oh, this is not about this.
Is about you. It is about you.
How you it was about you, Jared, Because you, because what are
you taking from this conversation?
I am taking that 'cause even when I was up late at night
writing this, think about all of our previous conversations, I am
taking that, you know, we need to have a better relationship
and I'm not trying to fall out with you.
Say it again. I said I'm not trying to fall
out with you. I appreciate.
That. So we need to boil down all this
stuff and that may make you mad. OK.
So I'm trying to get to the bottom of what those may mean.
After this conversation, you feel like, oh, you don't make
me. Mad.
'Cause that's what you just said.
After this conversation, I don't think that I make you mad like I
thought I was making you mad. OK.
But after this conversation, you know, I know what jokes are
saying, what jokes like to say. Think, I think that's the point
I was making earlier. Like I think these boiled down
some of the interactions we've had and they missed the point.
They missed the thing that made me mad.
So like you said, you don't make me mad like you thought.
I think the things that you thought made me mad don't make
people. Yeah.
Is there anything else? Honestly, we don't we we over
time. No, I mean, is there anything
else that makes you mad? Not that not I guess.
Not that not from this list. OK, so like.
I've said, I've said the things I've said the things that make
me mad as they apply to this list.
Yeah, I know. But is there anything else that
wasn't on this list there he? I mean, I, I don't, I don't have
a red ball to it. Probably pretty much like that.
And you? Said you didn't have the where
where the dog here. The dog.
To break it down right now or. Well, there we overtime and I'm
hungry alright. Alright, so I guess this was a
bad list for both of us. I don't think so.
I think it was a step in the right direction to start to weed
some things out. Well, hopefully in the future
things can be a little bit more, you know, playfully peaceful,
but nothing's really happened. I would just like, you know,
it's late at night thinking when I couldn't go to sleep.
Yeah. Alright.
So if anything comes up, let me know and we can address it.
See if it makes you mad or not. I.
Don't like what you framing It's like does it make the markets
mad? Why not?
I don't know. It's like, it's like you're
putting it all on me. The mic is out told.
I mean, I don't know how to else to say it 'cause like when you
make me mad is when you cut me off.
I say that multiple times in multiple different ways.
I say like ignored. I said not acknowledge.
I said, you know, like I'm not here, you don't listen.
I said that most of different ways.
That's what makes me mad, point blank, period.
So you don't care about that? I do.
Got that? And whenever you sorry, go
ahead, I don't mean to cut you off.
I thought you were done talking, I mean.
But when I'm and I just forgot what my line of that was.
I'm just trying to make sure that I do not make you feel the
same that you make me feel. You.
Know. I appreciate.
That all right guys, so that is the end of this Patreon.
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You only got to do that one time.
You get coffee every day. Yeah, or.
At least you don't finish. You don't finish the whole
coffee. You get the Binti and you don't
finish it. I'm sorry, Jerry.
I gotta eat that. Had to get that out.
OK, but. No, that's all I want to say.
Alright, bye. Bye.