1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 You're listening to episode 259 of the Marathon Running Podcast. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,880 In this episode, we're going to do a recap of the London 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,960 Marathon. This is the Marathon Running 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 podcast and Letty Runs YouTube channel with Letty and Ryan. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,640 And yes, we're officially now on all channels. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Join us for weekly content on all things running and let us 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,120 take you from the starting line to the finish line and beyond. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,640 Hey runners, and welcome to episode 259. 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,480 My name is Letty. My name is Ryan. 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,080 And we are here to bring you the episode that everyone has been 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,200 waiting for. Well, not really, but some 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,680 people message means that they are waiting for the recap 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,160 episode because it's the London Marathon. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,640 It's one of those marathons that are super difficult to get in. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,840 More than 800,000 people apply. Only a few of us get lucky. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,280 And it is in England. So you know not only is it a 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,680 commitment of your time and money, but also traveling etc. 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,520 Do. You know how difficult it is 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,640 compared to other ones. I think this is one of the most 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,240 difficult ones to get in. If you look at the stats, it's 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,640 easier to get into Harvard if you apply than into the London 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,680 Marathon. Really. 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,120 It's like 2 to 3%. Oh wow, that's how bad it's 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,600 gotten. But you know, even Sydney that 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,800 is having its first year as a major this year they went from I 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,680 don't know how many applicants to 80,000 applicants in the 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,880 first year of announcing it being a major. 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,560 So that's, you know, if you do the math, it's a little bit more 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,360 than 1/4 already for the first year. 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,520 So people are out there willing and able to spend money and. 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,080 And do a marathon in England. I guess so, yeah. 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,640 And we were one of them. Yeah, so you got your medal. 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,040 I got my medal and I got my medal. 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,280 For those of you that are watching this on YouTube, you 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,560 can see that I've got some signatures on these medals. 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,480 And these signatures are of the winners, first, second, male, 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,840 female and wheelchairs. So I got that done. 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Well, didn't get it done. I asked the winners to sign this 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,160 for me and they did so. So I had another medal. 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,560 And this is the Avid World Marathon Majors medal that you 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,040 get upon completing all six majors. 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,280 I know now there's seven, but this is the infamous six major 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,760 marathon medal. And yeah, so that's another 44 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,480 quote UN quote accomplishment. I don't want to take away from 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:28,000 it because it does take a lot to run 6 marathons and have them be 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,680 in all these different parts of the world. 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,560 But you know how I feel about it, right? 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,680 Right. Like at the same time, silver 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,680 lining is you have to be able to travel, you have to be able to 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,240 afford the races and all that stuff. 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,480 So of course it's an accomplishment. 52 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,280 At the same time, it's, I don't know what to call it arbitrary 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,240 accomplishment. Yeah, I guess it's something 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,560 that strive for. I think for people, if they're 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,960 into marathons, you know, you get to do all 7 now, which you 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,120 have to do another one because you didn't get all 7 yet. 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,840 But it's something to accomplish, I think. 58 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,680 So some people probably enjoy that and it's not an easy 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,800 accomplishment based on the difficulty getting into the 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,600 marathon. So I think that gives it some 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,480 credibility. I guess so, yeah. 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,880 I mean, I was very happy, obviously, and I feel always 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,000 full of gratitude with my life and being able to do that at the 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,560 same time, not to take away from all these other beautiful 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,040 marathons that are Honolulu Marathon, Hawaii Marathon, Paris 66 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Marathon, Rome Marathon, you know, those Stockholm. 67 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,400 Those are just five marathons that I mentioned from the top of 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,880 my head that I like better than some of the majors. 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,480 But we are here to talk about London, and I am here to tell 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,360 you that London is my actual ultimate favorite of all the 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,360 majors, and I know I always grade them 10 / 1010 out of 10. 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Not always, but most of the time. 73 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Yeah, but this one really, Ryan, it was super epic. 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,440 And let's get into that because that's why and. 75 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,160 The next one will be the best one you've had, no? 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,920 All right, so in standard fashion, you can start 77 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,640 explaining your journey to London. 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,760 OK, so my journey to London did not start from Florida. 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,200 I was actually in Boston covering the Boston Marathon as 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,360 media and left from Boston to London, which was kind of nice. 81 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Boston Marathon is on a Monday. I left on a Tuesday evening and 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,880 got to London on a Wednesday, which was great because I had a 83 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,760 few days in London prior to the race. 84 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,880 Those days I used to try to get some rest and also to attend the 85 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,880 media conferences for the London Marathon, which were absolutely 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,640 well organized and spread out over 2 days rather than just one 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,320 day. So it came in pretty handy to 88 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,360 land in London on Wednesday because the men's conference was 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,960 on Thursday, and then the women's conference and the 90 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,360 wheelchair racer conference was on Friday. 91 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,280 Nice. So why do you say they were well 92 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,880 organized? Because of the way they were 93 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,480 structured, every athlete that was there for the conference had 94 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,240 a chaperone who then took the names of the people from the 95 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,200 press and made sure that all of us, no matter if you're BBC or 96 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,600 little old me, get the same type of attention. 97 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,480 So that does really elevated us as aspiring journalist or 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,760 journalist. You know, in Europe it's also 99 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,400 different because you need journalist credentials and in 100 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,040 the US it's freedom of the press. 101 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,560 You don't have to be. I'm a lawyer. 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,400 I can still be pressed. So it's a little bit different 103 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,200 and I think maybe that attributed to that. 104 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,920 But so I didn't realize really, because I didn't really have 105 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,480 much time to look into the field of who the runners where. 106 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,560 I knew Sebastian Savo, who was the defending champion of the 107 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,160 London Marathon, but I didn't really look into the field as 108 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,280 deeply. And when I landed and I was 109 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,520 deciding whether I should even go to these conferences, I was 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,680 like, whoa, I have to go because they had a crazy field. 111 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,640 They had a debut marathoner there who is Kiblimo, who is the 112 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,640 current half marathon record holder. 113 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:53,480 He runs 1/2 marathon in 56 minutes and 30 seconds. 114 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,920 You also had Tamara Tola there, who was the Olympic marathon 115 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,280 winner. And Elliot Kiptogi, of course. 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,640 And even though we know Elliot Kiptogi is aging, he's still 117 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,960 super fast. And more than anything, I think 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,160 he has nothing left to prove. He's just here to inspire and 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,280 uplift us. He's the most recognizable long 120 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:16,160 distance runner in the world and he was going to be there. 121 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,280 He's always very difficult to find time to speak with because 122 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,160 he walks around and he's got his, you know, 10 bodyguards 123 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,160 around him because everybody recognizes him. 124 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,760 So he was at the press conference too, for the men. 125 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,360 So I was very happy that I ended up going because I got 126 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,640 one-on-one time with each one of these athletes. 127 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:36,440 You posted some of that. I did post some of that on our 128 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,440 YouTube channel. A lot of the content is in form 129 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,280 of a YouTube short and that was pre race kind of for the build 130 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:43,920 up. But then of course, give Toby, I 131 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,440 had to ask him deeper, you know, this message for runners knowing 132 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,280 that he's going to be running Sydney to inspire and make the 133 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,360 crowds come out. I couldn't resist. 134 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,840 And I did talk to him a whole bunch and it was, you know, just 135 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:01,200 also off the record stuff, just really amazing person. 136 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Feels like you walk away from that conversation enlightened. 137 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:06,560 Maybe the way he talks too. Yes, absolutely. 138 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,760 And so that was the men's conference, but the next day had 139 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,440 a women's conference. Yes, and again, amazing field. 140 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,520 We had Stefan Hassan who is the Olympic marathon winner there, 141 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,480 who didn't just win the Olympic marathon, she was the one that 142 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,600 completed other shorter distances. 143 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,400 I think it was a 10K in the 5K and the marathon and she placed 144 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,360 podium in all of them. She was there. 145 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,840 And then we had Jocelyn Jepkowski, who is also super 146 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,440 fast to end up running second. She was very nice and very 147 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,480 interesting. And then of course, Tigis Acefa, 148 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,600 who was the one who battled with Stefan Hassan during the 149 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Olympics and she ended up winning the London Marathon and 150 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,720 also set a new all women's world record, which just means that 151 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,040 there was no male Pacers for this race. 152 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,760 So that was really cool. And again, one-on-one time with 153 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,200 all of them. And then of course, they had the 154 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,800 wheelchair conference after that where you had Marcel Hoog, who 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,880 had just seen in Boston because with a wheelchair they just go 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,320 from one marathon to the other. He had just gotten done winning 157 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,920 Boston for the 8th time and he was about to win London for the 158 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,800 fifth time. He's from Switzerland, so I 159 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,080 always talked to him in German and he also invited us to stop 160 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,200 by his camp in Switzerland when we're in Europe this year. 161 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,560 I think we should. I think that we some really cool 162 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,200 insight to how they train for wheelchair. 163 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,240 That would be kind of neat, actually. 164 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Yeah. So I messaged with him on what's 165 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,200 up now. It's kind of cool. 166 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,840 And yeah. And Katherine Dibrunner, also 167 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,919 from Switzerland, who is following the footsteps of 168 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:39,039 Marcel Hoog in a female version. So really cool. 169 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,039 So that was that for the press conferences. 170 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,840 Again, you can look at all that content on our YouTube channel, 171 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:47,920 which you can find either at Under Running Podcast or Athleti 172 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,200 Runs. I think it pops up with that 173 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,520 too. So you want to talk about the 174 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:52,560 Expo now? Yes, let's talk about the Expo. 175 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Okay, silver lining with the Expo. 176 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,400 This time the Expo, it was amazing. 177 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,600 At the same time, I shouldn't have gone the same day that I 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,560 flew in because I was so tired, Ryan, that it was just a blur. 179 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,200 But I took video footage, so I kind of remember a little bit 180 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,600 more of it. But even on the train to the 181 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,000 Expo, which was 45 minute train ride from my hotel, I ended up 182 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,880 falling asleep. I almost missed the exit. 183 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,480 I was just kind of going in and out of sleep and just, you know, 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,720 not really quite there. But it was the Expo by New 185 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,360 Balance because New Balance was the title sponsor of the London 186 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,320 Marathon. It happened at the Excel Center. 187 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,760 The Excel Center is a huge center, kind of looks like a 188 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,680 mall, but it has all these exhibition centers and it was 189 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:40,360 just one of the exhibition centers in there, but it was a 190 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,880 huge and massive exhibition center. 191 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,000 What do you want to know about the Expo? 192 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,120 How should we tackle that? Was the Expo organized well? 193 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Yeah, it was organized well. And Perk, we came on Wednesday. 194 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,680 So many people go on Thursday and Friday or Saturday, right? 195 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:57,360 So it wasn't as full as it probably was the days 196 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,400 afterwards. You go in, you pick up your bib, 197 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:06,040 and then I had to go to the Avid World Majors booth because they 198 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,080 had to put a little something on your bib. 199 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,560 I think it was like a star or something that allows them to 200 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:15,600 recognize post race. So that way you can go get your 201 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,920 6 star medal. So that was one of the first 202 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,920 things I did. They don't have as much sample 203 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,960 food and I've noticed that about Expos in different countries, 204 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,760 they don't have as just not, they don't have as much sample 205 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,880 food as they do in the US. So there was a truck with yogurt 206 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,920 and I kept on going by it. I think I did 3 circles for the 207 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,080 first time. They had approaches. 208 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Yogurt did you get You got three things of yogurt. 209 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,200 They're like small samples. You just get breakfast while 210 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,840 you're there. Well, I was getting hungry or I 211 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,920 was tired and I was hoping that the sugar. 212 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,920 You forgot you just got yogurt. Oh, yogurt. 213 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,480 No. So it was a truck and at first 214 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,840 they had like a yogurt protein shake and I really liked that. 215 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,040 And then I went around the Expo and I it randomly happened to 216 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,680 run by the yogurt truck again. And then I got another sample 217 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,720 random. And then when I was in line for 218 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,080 a photo, which there was quite a bit of a line, I looked back and 219 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,320 I saw that the people holding the tray had changed. 220 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,760 So the guy wouldn't recognize me. 221 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,400 So I got 1/3 serving of yogurt, but they're just little samples, 222 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,480 right? So that was one of my favorites. 223 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,360 And the sad part is I don't remember what brand of yogurt it 224 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,600 was. Should have paid better 225 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,720 attention, but yeah, so. After three samples, they were 226 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,840 very unsuccessful in gaining any of your business. 227 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,560 No, it's just me, but let me backtrack. 228 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,720 So once you pick up your bib and you walk through that beginning 229 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,440 entry area, then you're immediately funneled through the 230 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,000 New Balance area, which is where they have the official race 231 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,640 gear, the official shirts and jackets and everything. 232 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,920 And I thought some of their stuff was really cute. 233 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,360 And then after that, you go into the main area where they have 234 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:52,080 the other vendors there. I got my Abbott Star on my bib. 235 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:57,760 I saw other races having booths, and I think that's always kind 236 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,040 of cool because you know, the race from Norway or the Rome 237 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,960 Marathon, they have their own booth and they're trying to 238 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,960 advertise their races, which I'm always open to hearing, where 239 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,480 there could be a really cool race. 240 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:11,400 Let me think. There was the big wall of Fame, 241 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,480 which is the area where you can find your name of completing the 242 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,080 Abbott Majors. There was the other wall. 243 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,800 We can see the participants of this race and they had 56,000 244 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,680 people on that wall. I didn't bother looking for 245 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:29,920 myself and a whole bunch of other smaller, smaller vendors. 246 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Nice. Did you buy anything at the 247 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Expo? I did not, but I may have signed 248 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,600 us up for a marathon, Not too surprise. 249 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,600 What do you mean? No, I'm just kidding. 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,280 Like I said, there were a lot of booths there with marathons. 251 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:47,800 One of them was the Great Race, which features 7 marathons in 252 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,800 one week in seven different continents at a price tag of 253 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,560 $49,000. I mean, that sounds really 254 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:56,960 awesome. It sounds really tiring. 255 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,160 I don't know, that sounds awesome to me. 256 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Like how can you enjoy it if you have 7 marathons like that close 257 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,520 together? Well, that's the thing. 258 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,200 I don't think you can really enjoy it. 259 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,960 I think it's going to be one of those where you're just rushing 260 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,200 and you're living off a sleep deprived schedule and then 261 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,080 you're actually making it to these places that you would 262 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,960 never go to, like Antarctica and stuff like that. 263 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,640 But then you don't really have time because you're rushing to 264 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,840 the next thing. If you're going to spend 265 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,600 $49,000, you're going to make it worth your while. 266 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,640 If you're going to spend that much money, you probably want to 267 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,040 have a little bit more of a experience. 268 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Like, I love marathons, but that's like a whole. 269 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,720 That's a lot of money. I mean, I'd probably rather do 270 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,680 one marathon, but you can fly there first class, stay in a 271 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:45,120 really nice hotel, and then after your one marathon you 272 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,640 could just enjoy the city and you'd still probably spend less 273 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,360 money. Yeah. 274 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,480 So I didn't sign us up for that. You're welcome. 275 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,080 I don't. Think we can afford to do that? 276 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:55,080 Yeah, I don't think anyone that like, I don't know who can 277 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,680 afford those spaces. But anyways, I didn't really buy 278 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,080 anything big. Maybe a couple gels here and 279 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,320 there to try, but that was it. So then I took the train back to 280 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,200 the hotel room and I forced myself to stay awake till 8:00 281 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,760 PM. And just to give you the 282 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,680 background, my flight from Boston to London was, I think 283 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:15,200 8:00 PM, and you get to London at 6:00 PM. 284 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,240 With the time difference, you're only up in the air for six 285 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,200 hours. So I felt like that was just 286 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,800 enough time to not get rest and to not sleep. 287 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,360 My Garmin said I slept 39 minutes, so I was done. 288 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,040 You know, I don't work well on low sleep. 289 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,000 And, well, I mean, I don't need a lot of sleep, but I need some 290 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,360 sleep. So I forced myself to stay awake 291 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,680 till 8:00 PM. And I remember looking at the 292 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,080 time and it was 7:54 PM and I was like, that's good enough. 293 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,640 And I slept heavenly well until 3:30 AM. 294 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,840 And then I was wide awake. And that was kind of like the 295 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,760 whole time I was there, I would wake up at 3:00 or 4:00 AM, but 296 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,320 I'd go to 8:00 PM. But then I was also not there 297 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,000 long enough to really want to try to schedule change that 298 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,800 schedule. Yeah, I think that's fine. 299 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,440 If you're going for a short time, what's next on your 300 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,120 agenda? So then like I said, I went to 301 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,000 both press conferences and then on Saturday, that was the day 302 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,720 before the marathon, I went to the Track Smith Shakeout Run, 303 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,600 which is really cool. Just, I don't know, I've been 304 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,720 hanging out with the Track Smith people a lot and they're all 305 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,760 good vibes and fun and they make cool shirts for races. 306 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,520 You know, I'm not big on race shirts that have years on them 307 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,600 and track Smith makes one that is consistently, you know, this 308 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,400 long sleeve wool layer and it has a city on it, but not the 309 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,840 year. And so I guess I kind of started 310 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,800 collecting those. And yeah, that was it. 311 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Did a little bit of sightseeing on the way back to the hotel on 312 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,520 that Saturday, and then I had lunch at a ramen place at that 313 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,200 point. Saturday morning when I'd woken 314 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,080 up, I'd already woken up with a sore throat. 315 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,640 So while I was at the shakeout run, it really hurt because the 316 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,680 air was cold. It was in the 40s, so, you know, 317 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,400 it's relative, but it felt cold to me. 318 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,040 So that really hurt. And I was just kind of almost 319 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,320 dreading the fact that I was racing the next day, went to the 320 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,520 room, rested, and then met up with some friends. 321 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,840 Michael, Patty and Michael mixed for dinner where there was 322 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Rundbach, which is a tour group. And then I went to bed 323 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,800 relatively early, slept, you know, the 5-6 hours. 324 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,760 And that takes us to race day morning all. 325 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Right, let's go through race day morning. 326 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,480 All right, race day morning, I wake up and I had overnight 327 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,240 oats, which is basically just having. 328 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Cold oats sit in water overnight. 329 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,560 Not even it was like from the buffet downstairs. 330 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,480 They had overnight note oats in the buffet downstairs. 331 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,160 No. So the buffet had like what? 332 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,680 Did they do it the night before? The buffet at my hotel had 333 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,160 packages of oatmeal, you know, just the very basic. 334 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,400 I mean, I didn't stay at a five star hotel. 335 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,560 It was just like the very basic peel off Maple syrup oats. 336 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,360 And I had taken one the day before and it poured milk on it 337 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,800 and I'd left it in the bathroom where? 338 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,280 Oh, that sounds awful it. Was the coldest place. 339 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,440 Yeah, but not with milk. Well, I mean, it was almond 340 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,119 milk. Oh, OK, that's better. 341 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,400 And I just let it sit and I called it overnight oats because 342 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,280 they had told me they don't open up the buffet for breakfast 343 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,000 until 6:45, which is just 15 minutes earlier for the 344 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,040 marathoners. Well, my plan was to be out of 345 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,400 there by 6:30, so I had overnight oats and a banana. 346 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,680 I went #2 in the bathroom. And all runners do want to know 347 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,520 that because it's important to clear your bowels. 348 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,560 Let's move on. Clear my bowels. 349 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,560 And then I went downstairs. Oh, I made coffee in the room, 350 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,320 too. Went downstairs and the guys 351 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,000 like, oh, where have you been? We opened up the buffet at six 352 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,840 and I was like, well, you didn't tell me. 353 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,920 He told me at 6:45, but whatever. 354 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,920 I mean, I was happier. Didn't overeat. 355 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,240 I just had enough. So then I took the train to 356 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,400 Pykel, Patty and Michael's and met them. 357 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,760 And from there we took the train to the starting lane. 358 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,840 And here let's kind of get into the gist of it. 359 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,640 Starting areas were assigned by different colors. 360 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,200 I don't know how many different colors there were. 361 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,840 I was in the blue color wave too. 362 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,840 And what that means is there's three different starting areas. 363 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,880 And so multiple colors go to one of the three different starting 364 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,360 areas. So you and I had kind of talked 365 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:28,680 about this yesterday, how that was kind of cool because when 366 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,080 you're running a race that's going to be as crowded, this is 367 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,920 the most busy, the most, what is it called? 368 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,240 The marathon with the highest turn out in participants. 369 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,840 It makes it hard, right? Because it doesn't allow for you 370 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,080 to start and run a certain pace. It's crowded. 371 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,000 And in order to avoid crowding, I guess the London Marathon has 372 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,320 three different start areas that all merge at some point in the 373 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,240 beginning of the course. So. 374 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,560 I think it's a good idea because that's like it's definitely the 375 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,120 most dense right at the beginning and then it thins out 376 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,960 progressively through the race. Yeah. 377 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,520 So that would that would definitely make it better. 378 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,240 So you're not all crowded in there. 379 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,280 Yeah. And, and just to that, you know, 380 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,720 like in my experience, I did not feel like this race was crowded. 381 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,040 And I've done a few marathons lately, like the LA Marathon and 382 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,400 Boston and Chicago, and they all felt crowded. 383 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:29,080 This one felt like it was very busy, but it didn't force you to 384 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,880 go a slower pace. But that's just my experience. 385 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,240 I know that a lot of people had a different experience with 386 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,960 that. I didn't have to put on the 387 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,320 brakes once and like I said, I was wave blue, I mean blue color 388 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,240 waves too, and it just felt really good. 389 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Wave blue color too. So do you want to go through the 390 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,400 start of the racing? Yeah, so we get to the starting 391 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,160 area, which was the train station. 392 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,680 Blackheath. You walked like I said, I walked 393 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,680 to my Bluefield. I I walked to my blue color. 394 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,480 I said goodbye to Patty and Michael, who had actually. 395 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Signed up for the Green Zone, the Green Zone, there was an 396 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,440 e-mail sent by the London Marathon that created a new zone 397 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,920 for people that did not want to check a bag. 398 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,440 So you could have actually, you could check a bag, but you'd 399 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,680 have to do it the day before so it wouldn't have to be 400 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,840 transported. And that's obviously, you know, 401 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,440 they're trying to work on sustainability. 402 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,480 They did that and got one of the 1st 1500 spots. 403 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,000 I didn't want to do that because I was thinking the London 404 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,880 Marathon is in April. It might be really cold, and I 405 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:37,040 wasn't willing to forego the lack of clothing in exchange for 406 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,640 having a smaller zone. But, I mean, it turned out OK 407 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,480 because the weather was actually really good. 408 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,160 But yeah, so they were in the Green Wave, I was in the blue 409 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,120 wave. And that was just a huge field 410 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,240 where everyone was waiting. I had about an hour and a half 411 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,440 left, which was just enough time to stand in the port a potty 412 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,440 line once, then find my friend James from Florida randomly in 413 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,720 the blue wave on the field who told me about women's urinals 414 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,800 and then I had to go check them out. 415 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,720 So you know you have to pee all the time. 416 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,840 I'd been drinking tea like crazy because of my throat so I 417 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,640 actually legit had to pee. OK, so explain the urinals 418 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,480 because I you explained it to me but I don't. 419 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,560 I mean, I didn't get it quite all the way, so I want to hear 420 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,960 it again. OK, so that's kind of difficult 421 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,880 to explain, but I'm going to try to also post a video on YouTube 422 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,440 on a short that shows them. So basically women's urinal. 423 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,000 You stand in line and. There's only one of. 424 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Them no women's urinals and you stand in line and you walk to an 425 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,320 area that has fencing around it so nobody can see through. 426 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,200 But then on there, I think there was like maybe 10 hot tub sized 427 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,920 platforms with a plastic construction on the top that had 428 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,880 two paths in. So picture, if you're looking 429 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,600 from above, picture the Ying and Yang sign. 430 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,640 OK. And so there's two urinals. 431 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,080 So you walk in to the urinals two women at a time and. 432 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,880 You can't see each other. You cannot see each other and 433 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,680 when you're standing, basically the construction is up to your 434 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,320 chest, so. You could see them when you're 435 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,760 standing. When you're standing you can 436 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,320 see, but when you're squatting you can't. 437 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,960 And then the person that was directing people to the urinals 438 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,440 because nobody knew how to use them was screaming. 439 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,920 Should I do the accent? Face the pink wall, squat, no 440 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,120 poo. So basically you had to face the 441 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:37,600 pink wall and then squat over a drainage and pee? 442 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,360 Not poo, just pee. And then that was it. 443 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:42,160 What? If you had a poop. 444 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,840 I don't know. You know, for men it's a 445 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,080 different story because you actually have to make a choice 446 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,120 to poop. But I don't know if I'm speaking 447 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,480 for all women when I sit on the toilet. 448 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,080 You. Don't choose. 449 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,520 I think that's just you. When I'm on the toilet, 450 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,880 sometimes I'm like, oh, I guess I could poop too. 451 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,840 OK, that's you. But it's different. 452 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,960 I don't know. You guys let me know, put a 453 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,200 comment. Do you do you choose to do? 454 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,680 You choose to pee or poo? Or is it just whatever comes out 455 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,080 when you sit on the toilet? Well, I mean, I don't know. 456 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,320 I mean, I guess for women it's easy because your pants are down 457 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,200 and you're on the toilet. I guess you never thought about 458 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,920 that, huh? But when I have to go to the 459 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,880 toilet, I just go see what happens. 460 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,160 But yeah, so here you couldn't see what happened here. 461 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,160 It was kind of like you have to make a little choice of whether 462 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,080 you. Got to focus. 463 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,080 You got to focus and make sure you don't poop, and if you think 464 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,800 that you're peeing and you might have to poo, then too bad, you 465 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,680 got to go somewhere else because this drainage doesn't have the 466 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,120 capacity to collect poop. It was just literally like a 467 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,440 little drain. So that was that. 468 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,560 That was very interesting. You get called out if you poo. 469 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,080 I don't know, I guess maybe. It's all three poo. 470 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480 I don't know, do the embarrassing walk walk of shame. 471 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,200 I don't know, maybe the next person we'll see that something 472 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,000 went wrong. We can always blame it on the 473 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,320 person before you. But anyway, I didn't poo. 474 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,280 I just peed and then it was out of there. 475 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,480 I went there for the experience and it was a good idea because 476 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,440 that line moved a lot faster. Then I went and dropped off my 477 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:18,280 check back at the at the truck and then I grabbed some water 478 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,560 and I considered going to use the urinals again, but at this 479 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,800 point the line was kind of wrapping around that whole 480 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,080 thing, so. How about more into the running 481 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840 part of the race? All right, let's go to that. 482 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,360 So then they opened the gates to wave 2, which is like a 483 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,640 collecting area of everyone that is in wave 2. 484 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,520 I went in there. I checked the temperature 485 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,120 because I wanted to be able to tell you guys how warm it was at 486 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,080 the start, and it was comfortable. 487 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,240 It was 58° and I don't know what that is in Celsius right now. 488 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,160 We're talking Fahrenheit. And that was basically when they 489 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,000 opened up everything and we were able to start kind of trotting 490 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,240 to the starting line and start this beautiful and epic race of 491 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,040 the London Marathon. The best race you've been 492 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,200 involved with yet? I mean, one of the best, right? 493 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,520 So, so tell us about the start of the race. 494 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,320 You've told us about getting to the race. 495 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,560 Like what was the environment like? 496 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,520 So the environment, Ryan was exhilarating. 497 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Everyone there was excited. There were people in costumes. 498 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,680 I saw Big Ben which is actually it's just the clock but the 499 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,800 tower a person dressed up. London is notorious for costumes 500 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,480 and setting world records in costumes. 501 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Saw a Big Ben, I saw a massive Caterpillar I saw as what I'm 502 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,720 assuming was a Starbuck cardboard with Starbucks cups 503 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480 made out of people. Like they're all in this. 504 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,800 Oh, it was like a bunch of people. 505 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,440 Yeah, wait, there was the cardboard too. 506 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,040 Yeah, but a holder? There's a cup holder like a 507 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,120 tray. Yes, and. 508 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,520 There's a bunch of cups. Yes, Interesting. 509 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,480 And then I saw Superman. I mean, I saw so many costumes 510 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,720 right at the beginning, which I don't even know how many I 511 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,040 didn't see, right, because I only see the few people around 512 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,560 me. So that was really cool. 513 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,840 And that kind of got you smiling and excited. 514 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,280 I was also very excited for this race because I had a sore 515 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,760 throat. I knew this race wasn't going to 516 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,640 be a PR race and I wasn't going to push as hard. 517 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,400 Whereas I haven't been training very well because of my back 518 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,480 pain, but I was still going to really push and test my fitness. 519 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,200 I did push as much as I could and tested my fitness, but the 520 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,440 fact that I had a sore throat, I think it just kind of took all 521 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,480 the pressure off of it to where I wasn't even nervous. 522 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,600 I was just really excited to to run this race. 523 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,000 Another other couple of things were that my childhood friend 524 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,480 from Ecuador and I lives in London and she told me she was 525 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,280 going to come out and unfortunately it doesn't happen 526 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,920 very often that I have people out on the course because I'm 527 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,160 either travelling or people just don't show up for me. 528 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,360 Sympathy. Insert sympathy there. 529 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,680 And so also another couple of running clubs, including the guy 530 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,080 from Tracksmith that they're going to be there and they're 531 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,880 going to be tracking. So all of that also, I was very 532 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,040 excited because it wasn't just the weekend of the London 533 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,920 Marathon, There was also the Oklahoma City Marathon, the 534 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,680 Eugene Marathon. I had a friend doing a try. 535 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:16,000 You know, there was everyone that is in my running sphere was 536 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,720 racing that day. So it kind of felt cool to be 537 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,400 part of it no matter where I am, right? 538 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,840 And then obviously friends on the course, I had Michael, 539 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,240 Patty, James Min, like there's so many people running this 540 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,440 race, so that's really exciting. So it felt exhilarating. 541 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,240 The person that was speaking was really cool. 542 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,520 There was a person with a microphone obviously at the race 543 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520 start and she was saying like you're all strangers and you're 544 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,560 all doing the same thing. I also felt very excited because 545 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,040 of the elite field and because of Elliot Kipchowi, because in 546 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,720 my head I was like, I'm running on the same streets as all these 547 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,200 athletes, like we're all doing the same thing. 548 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,480 And then I was excited because I've had some motivating 549 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,760 conversations with cool people, coaches and John Courier, the 550 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,280 Chicago Marathon winner who had texted me the night before. 551 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720 And he was like, just believe in yourself. 552 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,400 And I was like, oh, this is so cool, right? 553 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,600 It was really, really cool to, to, to do that marathon. 554 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,560 I felt really honored and lucky and happy that you decided to 555 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,560 let me do this. I felt just very grateful to be 556 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,920 there. And so I started the London 557 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,800 Marathon. It was a long start, but these 558 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,240 were all the things that were going. 559 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,360 Through my head, yeah. So you want to do first half 560 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,640 memorable experiences. One thing before we do that, you 561 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,240 mentioned about the costumes, but you also noticed a lot of 562 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200 people had stuff on their T-shirts, written things, right? 563 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,640 Yes. So that was, and I guess I 564 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,640 that's something that goes to your structure of first half, 565 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,720 second-half. I noticed in the first half that 566 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,840 a lot of people had stuff written on the back of their 567 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 shirts that wasn't just Nike or Puma or Adidas. 568 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,960 They actually had either tagged something on there or papers or 569 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,120 something printed on shirts and they were really deep messages. 570 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,880 I mean, talking about I'm running for so and so because 571 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,120 they passed away. Or I saw a lot of shirts that 572 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,320 had a sign that said kidnapped and it showed a picture of a 573 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,480 child and something written under it to the point where 574 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,520 Ryan, I was pushing my pace and it really started messing with 575 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,880 my head because of instead of being able to have pleasant 576 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,080 thoughts, it really kind of put me in a bad headspace. 577 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,120 And I know that there is real life out there that exists 578 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,160 outside of my running bubble. And, you know, I am very well 579 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840 aware of kidnapping and that kind of stuff, but I just felt 580 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,200 like for me to read that it wasn't the right time at the 581 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,120 race. And I feel like all of these 582 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,000 messages were really deep and profound and explained a lot 583 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,440 about the person that was running it and they're wise, but 584 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,400 I didn't want to see that. So I made the decision to 585 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,360 purposefully ignore every shirt and what they said. 586 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280 I would just kind of look past that because I didn't want to 587 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,200 start thinking about kidnapping cases and that human trafficking 588 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720 and all that stuff that in my field of work immigration, we 589 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,480 hear about so much. Yeah, it doesn't take away from 590 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,480 people expressing themselves, though they can. 591 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,840 I mean, I don't think I'd mind it so much, but I can see how it 592 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,400 can get difficult to read a bunch of stuff like that. 593 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,120 I mean, I love the deeper stories. 594 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600 I just didn't want to think about the deeper stories while I 595 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,400 was trying to be in my racing mode. 596 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,080 That's all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I would love to read 597 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,160 that stuff afterwards and meet with those people and hear more 598 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,760 about that stuff. It was just not the time while I 599 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,240 was racing to read that, so I chose not to do that so. 600 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,760 You stopped reading shirts. Stopped reading shirts and. 601 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,880 Focused on wine racing. Focused on racing and the 602 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,720 surroundings and like I told you I saw the 2 starting areas that 603 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,720 were separate. I saw when the courses were 604 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,160 merging and I felt like wow this is really like a zipper like it 605 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,240 was very smooth. I did realize that roads did 606 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,000 narrow, but like I said, unlike many other people that ran this 607 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160 race, I not a single time felt like oh, I have to put on the 608 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,920 brake. I felt like my wave was really 609 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,760 good with. I feel like everybody that was 610 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,280 there was running the pace that they said they would, which is 611 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,120 how you get into those waves normally. 612 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,520 So anything stood out during the first. 613 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,680 Half, not the first half, but the full race was that. 614 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,880 I feel like a lot of races you just run and you seem to run for 615 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,560 an eternity before there's any turn. 616 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,280 I feel like this race was so full of sights, so full of 617 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,280 spectators, and so full of turns or waving of the course that it 618 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,720 never felt mundane like they normally do. 619 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,280 Also, so the first, I don't know, 567 miles, I felt like 620 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,280 this was an entire downhill race. 621 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,520 Really. Yeah. 622 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,320 Was it actually? I haven't really gone back and 623 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,440 looked at the course map, but I think it does go down a little 624 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320 bit from Garmin. I know that there was 2 miles, 625 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,320 maybe mile two and three that really went down maybe almost 626 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,520 200 feet. I gotta double check that it 627 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,120 was. I felt like I was flying. 628 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,120 And then every once in a while I did feel a little bit of uphill, 629 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,000 but not that much. And I feel all of that stuff 630 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,640 very much because we live in Florida. 631 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,840 We're used to flat. Is it an overall downhill 632 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,480 course? It's not OK. 633 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,720 It's a flat race, yeah. The excitement or the bumps for 634 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,080 you? So what about nothing else? 635 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,440 First half? Then what about second-half? 636 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,000 Well, I started getting tired, right? 637 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,280 I think around the first half being over, OK. 638 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,920 And I started thinking in my head that, you know, I've lost 639 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,880 fitness. OK, now my body is going to slow 640 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,840 down. Normally I have this where it 641 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,840 happens that no matter what, I just kind of slow down. 642 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,360 I'm very good at positive splitting, which you're supposed 643 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,080 to negative split. But just when I was about to get 644 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,840 really tired, the course had turned into the area where it 645 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,160 was an in and out. So you could see the people from 646 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,880 the front coming back. And I was running, happened to 647 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,160 run on the left side where you would see the other course. 648 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,480 And I looked over and I saw Sebastian Sawy, who is who ended 649 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,880 up winning the race, who went to the camp that we visited in 650 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,480 Kenya. So I know this kid personally 651 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,600 and I had talked to him before the race and everything. 652 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,640 And I saw him. And all of a sudden, I felt like 653 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,560 my race didn't matter anymore because I just really wanted to 654 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,400 see, you know, where is he? Where is Kipchoge? 655 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Where are the other ones? And I saw his face and I saw 656 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,360 that he was pushing hard and he was focused and everything. 657 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,120 And then I was like, Oh, my gosh, it's not easy, even for 658 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,120 the fast ones. I mean, I knew that, but it was 659 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,440 just like, really brought it to life that he's struggling, but 660 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,440 he's pushing hard. So I told myself, I'm never 661 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,520 gonna be that fast, but I can do the same thing. 662 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,880 And I was like, let me just go for it. 663 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,400 Don't just completely let off the pedal, Like, go for it. 664 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,240 And then I also remembered our recent conversation where you 665 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,480 said don't be coming home with anything slower than a 330I. 666 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,760 Don't even. Remember that. 667 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,080 Well, the background. Was not even a joke. 668 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,200 Well, yeah, the background was that I had told you that. 669 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,240 You always tell me it's just a race, just enjoy it. 670 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,320 You're doing it for fun. And then you had said, and then 671 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,480 I had told you when you say that, it makes me feel like I'm 672 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,880 just completely out of the pedal. 673 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,240 And then you jokingly said to me, don't come home with 674 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,400 anything slower than the 3:30, so I remember that. 675 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,320 That sounds more right. It's. 676 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,760 Like, and then I remember John career saying believe in 677 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,239 yourself. And so I felt like around my 14, 678 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,360 I felt like enlightened and I was like, don't get off the 679 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,239 pace. You're just going to finish this 680 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,960 race and push a little bit harder. 681 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,880 Like granted my throat was hurting, my back started hurting 682 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,239 a little bit, but I was like just do the best that you can 683 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,600 with what you have. But you know what? 684 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,679 I in Lai let off for the last 8 miles because I was doing a 685 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,920 workout and then the back actually hurt worse. 686 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,199 So I was like just do it, just push harder. 687 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,719 Then around mile 17 and 18, I was really looking around a lot 688 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,760 to try to find my friend Denise from Ecuador who said she'd come 689 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,159 out and I couldn't find her. So I was kind of like, oh, where 690 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,080 she's kind of those miles flew by because I was just looking 691 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,719 for her. And then I continued running and 692 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960 we came towards the end of the race and it was just such a 693 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,360 beautiful day. Like the weather was perfect. 694 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,520 Maybe a little warm for some people, but for Floridians, not. 695 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,120 So it's just such a beautiful race. 696 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,880 And I tried to take the camera out and film a little bit more. 697 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,520 And then I saw the area where it said 365 yards to go or 698 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,040 whatever. And I tried to speed up a little 699 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,120 bit. And then I realized, you know 700 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,560 what, I'm going to cross this finish line. 701 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,400 And I feel so good. My fueling had gone better than 702 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,760 it ever had. I've been fueling on you can the 703 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680 entire time. I took five gels in total, 0 704 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,000 stomach aches, 0 stomach queasiness. 705 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,640 And normally I feel like I don't want to take any more gels 706 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,320 because I'm tired of them. And that didn't happen. 707 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,280 So fueling was perfect. And then I crossed the finish 708 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,560 line and it was just such a happy day. 709 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,640 And then I immediately looked for somebody from the press that 710 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,960 could tell me whether Sebastian Salva had one where Elliott was 711 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,280 and all that stuff. And somebody ended up being able 712 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,640 to tell me that I was really excited for Sebastian Sawy 713 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,280 because it was his first world major win. 714 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,440 He had won Valencia before, but this is like big time now. 715 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,640 And it was only his second marathon, which is like 716 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,360 ridiculous, right? And then I went to collect this, 717 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,240 the six star medal. To go to like a separate 718 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,400 location. Yeah, so there was a tent and it 719 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,720 was the Avid World Marathon Majors tent. 720 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:19,640 And I saw Ted Matelas, who is the race director from New York, 721 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,960 and he gave me the medal. And then the person that works 722 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,160 for Abbott took photos. They do that with everybody. 723 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,520 And they gave me a pin, which I now can't find, but I wasn't 724 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,920 going to do anything with it anyway. 725 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,240 But that was that. And then I did the whole walk of 726 00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:40,640 shame home, I want to call it because I was wearing 2 medals 727 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:42,520 and it was clunking the whole way. 728 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,400 Why is it a walk of shame? I guess Walk of Fame, well, 729 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,720 people turn around and they're like, oh, you have both medals 730 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,640 and you're like, yeah, it's. Not a walk of shame, though. 731 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,800 It was kind of embarrassed. I don't know. 732 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,520 Yeah, well, it could be embarrassing, but a walk of 733 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200 shame is like when you have to walk back with no metal because 734 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,640 you didn't finish. That's a walk of shame. 735 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,600 I thought the walk of shame happens in college. 736 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,320 What do you mean? When you're seeing the night at 737 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,640 some guy's house and you're wearing the same clothes the 738 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,240 next day? Oh my. 739 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,960 Gosh, I can use in multiple like instances but in related to 740 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,400 marathons. And related to marathons, I 741 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,320 guess the DNF. But anyway, so so that was that. 742 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,280 I got both medals. I had crappy Internet because 743 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,760 T-Mobile didn't really work that well in London. 744 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,400 But my friend from Ecuador said she saw me two times and she 745 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,120 showed me the proof of it. And her son had come out and he 746 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,840 had been holding a sign that said go Letty and they were 747 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,560 actually on their way to meet me at the finish line using an Uber 748 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,880 boat, I guess on the Thames River. 749 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,520 Thames River, I don't know how to say that properly in English, 750 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,120 but they have Uber boats. But she gets stuck in traffic. 751 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,200 So then I decided I'm going to just take the subway really 752 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,800 quick to go to the hotel, shower up and come back. 753 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,040 And I was able to do that in record time. 754 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,640 I had 0 soreness or anything, just a little bit of back pain 755 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,000 and a funny voice. And so then I ended up going to 756 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,080 the at Morality which was a pub close to the finish line where I 757 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,760 met with her. And then later on I redirected 758 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,200 all my friends to come to the same location so we could all 759 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,040 share a beer together. Not sharing, but you know what I 760 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,600 mean. Yeah, you just made everyone 761 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,600 sick. Everybody drink my beer. 762 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200 It's like one of those things that we have in Germany, you 763 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,080 know, the big boot. Yeah, that's filled with beer. 764 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,720 So 10 out of 10. Really, 10 out of 10, Ryan But I 765 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:36,080 think a lot of it has to do with the weather, because the first 766 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,480 two days in London it wasn't as sunny and I felt like, oh man, 767 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,400 this place is like kind of Gray. But then the sun came out and it 768 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,440 made it into a whole different experience for me. 769 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,560 I heard that London 2024 was really rainy and Gray, and I 770 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,680 don't think it could have been that great for me. 771 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,960 We might need to recalibrate your ratings schedule there. 772 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,880 Why? Because they're all like 10 out 773 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,480 of 10s, but that's OK. But this one, you know, I 774 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,080 really, I really, really felt like while I was running it, I 775 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,280 was like, could I run this again? 776 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,960 And I was like, yeah, I could run this again. 777 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,200 Maybe if I'm trained better, I can do it even faster. 778 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,720 I had a lot of ideas that came to me. 779 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,040 Any final thoughts? Final thoughts on the London 780 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,040 Marathon Well, you know, the London Marathon is very 781 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,640 difficult to get in anyway, so I don't think it's gonna happen 782 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,560 again anytime soon unless I get really lucky. 783 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,480 But it's a beautiful race. I have some ideas and I'm gonna 784 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,240 probably share them at some point this year when I make a 785 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,920 Hacks for the London Marathon type of video on where to stay 786 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,360 and stuff like that. Because, you know, I'm very in 787 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,000 tune with from in a city that has a race, I want to stay close 788 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,240 to the happening spots. And I feel like I now know where 789 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:51,280 that is for the London Marathon and activations and all that 790 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,240 stuff. So I think I think that's 791 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,360 something for a future marathon. But yeah, I think running the 792 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,480 marathon actually being there, you learn so much from it and 793 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,960 things that you can do. Did you hear from any other 794 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,640 people about their experience in the race? 795 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,320 Yeah, all my friends, and like I said, a lot of them ended up 796 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,480 just taking the foot of the pedal because they're not used 797 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,000 to warmer temperatures, even though it wasn't that warm. 798 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,040 And Michael, my friend, he had knee problems going in, but then 799 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,680 he also, he said it was a little bit more crowded where he was in 800 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,200 his corral and he got clipped. So he ended up falling and he 801 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:31,880 busted his knee and his chin. Yeah, Patty had an amazing 802 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,120 experience and she's struggled the last 3-4 races with getting 803 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,520 a good time. She has a new coach and a new 804 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,760 approach to everything. And she ended up running the 805 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:47,320 space like around 4/4/15, which was really, really good given 806 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,080 her track record of the last year. 807 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,160 So she loved every second of it. And then I had some other 808 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,080 friends, they all did. They all did OK. 809 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,200 A lot of my friends did the whole Boston to London so.