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You're listening to episode 181 
of the Marathon Running Podcast.

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In this episode, we're gonna 
talk about charity running. 

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This is the Marathon Running 
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Hey, runners, and welcome to 
Episode 181. 

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My Name Is Letty. 
My name is Ryan. 

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And if you are new, welcome. 
We do a weekly marathon running 

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We bring you experts that talk 
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we do some race recaps, which 
we'll be doing next week because

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we're actually pre recording 
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of this episode coming out. 
We will just have finished the 

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New York City Marathon. 
So that'll be coming up next, 

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yes. 
What are charity runners? 

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So a charity runner is a 
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usually half marathons or full 
marathons. 

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Who raises money or awareness 
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And a lot of people run the 
major, the world major marathons

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as a charity runners because 
they're just so difficult to get

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in. 
So if you can't get in with a 

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qualifying time, it's another 
way to get in, yes. 

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So a lot of those races do have 
qualifying times that are pretty

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steep, but there's also a lot of
runners that choose the charity 

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programs over doing a regular 
entry because they have a 'cause

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that's close to that heart. 
And so they raise a lot of 

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money. 
So, and just to give you some 

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numbers, for example, the Boston
Marathon, there's 30,000 runners

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in the field. 
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because the streets are too 
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And so out of the 30,000 
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spots to charity runners. 
So these organizations, most of 

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them have a minimum of $8000 
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runner. 
So you have 6000 runners and 

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each one of them raises more 
than $8000 to participate in the

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race. 
And that's pretty amazing. 

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I can't do the math in my head. 
So obviously that's good for 

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charities. 
So if you were trying to just 

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fund it by coming up with $8000 
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that's a lot of money. 
So how does that work? 

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So I think there's an 
interviewing process by the 

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charities. 
I think they want to sometimes 

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see that you have previous 
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etcetera. 
And then they select you, you 

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give them a credit card number. 
So you're liable to raise those 

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funds no matter what, even if it
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card. 
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believe they give you a lot of 
help and ideas on how you can 

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raise those funds. 
Hopefully your credit limit is 

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high enough. 
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Charity runners work a lot 
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have to train for the marathon 
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budget, but then they also have 
to come up with this much money.

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So I feel like they have a 
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they have these personal 
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and they feel maybe some 
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fulfill these expectations by 
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them. 
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meaningful. 
So you have a charity that's 

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close to your heart and then you
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like you've done it not just for
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for the cost. 
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little bit higher. 
So I have a lot more respect for

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charity runners than most of us 
that, you know, don't know how 

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to fundraise. 
Or they have an $8000 credit 

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card bill that they're going to 
have to pay when they're done. 

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So now that we understand a 
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renters, do you have an 
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I do. 
So I interviewed Hillary, who 

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can be found on Instagram as 
running up that Hillary, which I

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love her, I love her handle. 
And she actually had to 

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fundraise. 
Under pressure, she got 

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notification that she was in for
the Boston Marathon of this 

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year, 2023, but she only had a 
little bit over a month to raise

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those over $8000. 
So if anyone, she would be a 

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good person to talk to about 
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Yeah, that's quite the uphill 
Validel. 

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I got it. 
And then when we're done talking

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to Hillary, we're also going to 
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people can fundraise, if that's 
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So. 
You want to get into it? 

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Yeah. 
So without any further ado, I'm 

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now going to play my 
conversation with Hillary. 

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All right. 
So I'm here with Hillary 

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Burgess. 
Hillary, thank you so much for 

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joining me for this episode. 
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Thanks for having me. 
All right. 

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So let's start with a little bit
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Who are you? 
What do you do? 

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And how did you basically get 
inspired to become a charity 

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runner? 
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So I I've been running for most 
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I'm 31 years old. 
I I've been running since I was 

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seven years old. 
My my dad is the one that got me

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running. 
He was a runner in childhood, 

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ran his first marathon at 12, 
which is is kind of crazy. 

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They don't let. 
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anymore. 
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We would just drop him off in 
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he would he would run home. 
I grew up in Arizona, so this 

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was literally the desert. 
We would just leave a jug of 

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water at random random places. 
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marathon culture even back then.
He signed me up for my first 5K 

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in second grade and I have been 
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since. 
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Cross country and track and in 
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I moved to to longer distances 
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my first half marathon at at 20.
I just hit fifty half marathons 

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this last weekend and I. 
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about a year ago, so it'll be a 
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That's pretty amazing. 
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hop into the charity part of 
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say to help you like running? 
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of the times that parents try to
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kids and maybe. 
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then the kid gets completely 
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So I think what he did really 
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Is that he was always really 
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You know he would he would sign 
me up for races. 

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He would come out to my my cross
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He was my cross country coach. 
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But even in junior high before I
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come out to just support me and 
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when they ran, but never in a 
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So there's been years where I 
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and he's as supportive at at at 
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He is years like like this year 
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three times a month and and so 
less you know I want you to be a

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runner and here's how you should
do it and and more hands off and

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he's there when I when I want 
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He's supportive. 
I've grown up around the sport 

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so the exposure was always good,
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for his races. 
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even a kids run, I would have 
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automatic. 
Hey Hillary, you are doing this,

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this is what you're going to do.
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the what has made it stick so 
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That's pretty awesome. 
So that's some parenting advice 

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for those of us that have kids. 
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So then you said your first 
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year. 
Which one was that? 

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I ran rock'n'roll San Antonio, 
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My first half marathon was 
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as well in 2012, and then ten 
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marathon. 
That's so awesome. 

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And then this year you ran the 
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Marathon is a pretty big event 
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So maybe we can. 
Talk about what inspired you to 

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become a charity runner and pick
the Boston Marathon for this. 

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Absolutely so, So I guess it it 
all started with my my daughter.

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So I have two kids. 
I have an 8 year old and a two 

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year old and my my 2 year old. 
Was born and immediately we knew

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something was wrong with her. 
It was it was not something that

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came up in in pregnancy, very 
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But it was the moment she was 
born that all the nurses were 

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quiet. 
They rushed everybody in, took 

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her, took her away. 
I still had an epidural. 

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I couldn't even move and they're
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She ended up being in the NICU 
for a while and we went home and

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didn't get a diagnosis for a 
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back in the hospital. 
She wasn't really able to eat, 

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she wasn't gaining weight, She 
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percentile, basically starving 
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out. 
We thought it was a tongue tie 

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or or something with with 
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We tried, tried everything with 
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four months old. 
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and they did a lot more 
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out that she actually had a 
heart defect and it's so it is 

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called a vascular ring. 
So basically her aorta wrapped 

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around her esophagus. 
So it was no very little milk or

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formula or anything could could 
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She would exhaust herself 
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couldn't swallow any of that. 
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wasn't an emergency situation. 
So there's two types of vascular

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rings. 
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their esophagus and their 
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breathe and that's an emergency 
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It was only around her 
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So what? 
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surgery. 
They recommended that she was so

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little that we wait a little bit
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the wrists were were smaller. 
And we got AG tube put in so 

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that she was able to safely gain
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You know, we could bypass her 
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just give her her formula 
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weight. 
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scheduled her heart surgery and 
this was last June, so June of 

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2022 when she was 15 months old.
And at that point, she wasn't 

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eating solid. 
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She didn't have teeth like it 
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She was very much delayed in a 
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And we had, we had our heart 
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We had an awesome team here at 
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Antonio. 
They were fantastic. 

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They were able to successfully. 
Fix the the vascular ring, 

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reroute her aorta re implant it 
where it's supposed to go so 

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that there's no longer the 
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And by the time that we we left 
the hospital, she was she was 

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already eating solid food and it
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about a week that she she 
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So it was, I mean everything all
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And so it was it was a very 
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And then you know that the few 
months after that taking care of

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the the, the incision wound, 
eventually we were able to get 

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the the G tube out, make sure 
that all of that healed 

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everything. 
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it was scary, it was a a 
terrifying experience. 

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But she made a a full recovery. 
You know, she sees a 

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cardiologist twice a year and 
that is all like just for 

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monitoring. 
And we we got off so lucky, so 

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incredibly lucky. 
And so that was what what my my 

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main motivation for being a 
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That's pretty mind blowing. 
I didn't even know that. 

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Yeah, yeah, I I I try to keep my
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much as possible. 
I actually use fake names for 

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them on my on my public profile.
So my son, I call him Miles and 

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my daughter, I call her Cadence.
Those aren't their real names 

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but they're they're they're 
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names. 
And so I don't post about it all

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that that often and you know at 
the same time, not just for 

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privacy but it's also it's a 
it's a pretty emotional thing. 

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So I I don't talk about it all 
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But when? 
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some people overseas. 
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connected with, his name's 
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He was in the middle of raising 
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So I asked him, I'm like, how 
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on everything he did, and I 
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run the 2024 Boston Marathon. 
I'm going to find a heart 

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charity. 
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daughter, and that's that's what
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he he ended up passing away 
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the same condition. 
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the foundation in his honor. 
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spread positivity and then also 
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dealing with with heart 
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children. 
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charity, I knew this is the 
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they had a page there on their 
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It it was for the 2023, the 2023
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Boston. 
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sure they're full. 
I'm just going to submit this 

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and get a head start on 
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So I wrote in. 
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everything. 
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An hour later I got an e-mail 
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teams, Susan, who's fantastic, 
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he'd be a great four. 
Let's definitely keep in touch. 

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I asked how I could help for 
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the area so there wasn't really 
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But the the plan was essentially
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in touch and then? 
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from Susan and somehow stars 
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she said hey, I have an extra 
bib. 

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I know this is crazy. 
Can you raise $8500 in 32 days 

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and figure out the logistics and
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Wow. 
So that's not just. 

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I mean, you're saying it like 
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But the other thing is also, you
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race, right? 
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Training. 
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had just run the Austin marathon
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was in in decent marathon shape.
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probably used a couple more long
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starting from from Ground Zero 
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So then that you got one out of 
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The other thing is logistics, 
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ticket and of course the place 
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So let's touch on that briefly 
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fundraising goal. 
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a lot. 
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get a flight home from Boston, 
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Boston. 
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flying into Newark and we spent 
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we took the Amtrak up to to 
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OK. 
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that's I mean it looks like. 
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trip, especially if you have 
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have to bring the kids along, 
right? 

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Yeah, and it was, it was good. 
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for for a while and so that that
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It was also my birthday, so that
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parents were were. 
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kids. 
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present so that that worked out.
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kind of, you know they 
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everything was and somehow we 
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than a mile from the finish 
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I have no idea how, but we 
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Sunday. 
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Boston off the train immediately
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packet pickup and the Expo like 
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there any later. 
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even know how I would picked up 
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Oh wow. 
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Airbnb too, because we hear 
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owners canceling their Boston 
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find better prices and all that 
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So we usually tell people stay 
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But you lucked out. 
That's amazing. 

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You know you made it to the Expo

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on time. 
And then let's talk about the 

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big elephant. 
Let's talk about the fact that 

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raising $8500 is already a big 
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I think it's a big job for two 
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People do it in a year, but you 
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that. 
So that was that was very scary.

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And a lot of people don't 
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fundraising goal, it's a 
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So what I don't raise that that 
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I don't even know how long it 
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$8500. 
It'd be a while. 

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isn't an option to fail And so I
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running from the the moment that
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happening. 
I'm I'm part of a a running club

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here in San Antonio it's the San
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Runners and it's the it's the 
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was that was helpful because did
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runners. 
I think we have maybe 1500 

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members something like that and 
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spring training so we have 
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everything where you know I'm 
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everybody knows what what a big 
deal the the races and people 

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were very happy to to support. 
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everyone I've ever met because 
it was, I mean it was a big goal

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and I didn't want to have to 
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I know sometimes people get 
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big chunk all at once and I 
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of that. 
So they they have all sorts of 

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things to hurdles to jump over 
and and things for for that. 

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So I didn't go that route with 
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sponsorships or anything like 
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I I did a few in person things 
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ton of Donuts and gels and 
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one of the trail heads in town. 
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know it's a very popular place 
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people to to run, walk, bike, 
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And so we set up and and we 
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We did it just by donation. 
It's like hey y'all take this, 

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it's free. 
But scan this, at least read my 

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daughter's story. 
If you don't end up donating 

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that's fine, but you know here 
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of donations from that. 
You know people took a donut and

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they ended up sending me $20.00.
So a lot, a lot better than I 

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think if we did a bake sale with
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I think that was something that 
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That's a really good approach. 
I'm glad you're kind of going 

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into these, because I think 
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being a fundraising person for a
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Because not only do you have to 
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time to put in an effort and 
host events like that. 

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So I guess I'm going to start by
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assistance or tips did your 
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to fundraising? 
And then I'm going to ask you 

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about some other. 
Methods of how you were able to 

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raise these funds Sir. 
I didn't actually ask them for 

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for any tips at this point. 
I I'm sure that they would have 

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been been supportive. 
They were they were awesome and 

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everything that I was emailing 
them about logistics, but I 

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actually didn't the the topic of
a fundraising I didn't really 

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ask them for for any of that. 
I I more relied on other other 

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charity runners. 
That was a big part of it where 

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I I learned a lot. 
So Scott, who I mentioned 

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before, he added me to a 
Facebook group that was for 

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Boston Marathon specific charity
runners. 

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So, you know, we all had the 
same deadline for for raising 

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money and a lot of the 
fundraising tips I got from that

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group. 
OK, perfect. 

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So. 
I like your idea of having a 

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stand at a trailhead and kind of
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It makes a lot more sense to not
be selling an item for a certain

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dollar amount, but rather having
your story and getting a bigger 

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donation. 
Because I can see myself just 

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donating 20 bucks rather than 
having that dollar available 

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when you're running anyway. 
So that was a great idea. 

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And then, but you know, you're 
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not looking at a. 
Chicago fundraiser for $1700 So 

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what other things did you do? 
How did you approach it and how 

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easy or hard was it to reach out
to your non running friends or 

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Facebook family friends and all 
that to tell them I want to run 

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a marathon, I want to raise 
money. 

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So one of the one of the things 
that I did I I got a bunch of of

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running items. 
So I'm a I'm an ambassador for 

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for a few different running 
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And so I had some some products 
around and so I decided to sell 

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raffle tickets. 
That was a that was a pretty 

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easy thing. 
I had points for for one of them

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where I could I could trade in 
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and so I raffled those off. 
I had some stuff already at home

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that I had never used that I 
decided to use this as raffle. 

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Raffle items. 
So I sold raffle tickets. 

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I can't remember, I think they 
were $10 each. 

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So I had a huge spreadsheet 
going with with everybody who 

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bought raffle tickets. 
You know, even people who if 

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they just donated, I would give 
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they didn't know about the 
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That was that was a really good 
one. 

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A couple of the things that I 
got from the charity Facebook 

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group, some tips there that I 
ended up using. 

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So one of them, I had people buy
songs for my Spotify playlist 

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that I was going to listen to 
during during the race. 

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And so, you know, I spun that 
I'm like, you know, make me 

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listen to the most obnoxious 
things in the world, You know, 

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something that inspires you or 
something that you think is 

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funny. 
One of my, one of my friends, my

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local running running buddies, 
she has a grandson who's he's 

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maybe three or four and and so 
we talked a lot about about 

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Bluey. 
And so she had a few different 

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Bluey remixes that she ended up 
putting on there. 

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So that was it. 
That was a fun. 

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That was a fun one. 
And then I had, I had one where 

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people would sponsor a mile 
within the within the race. 

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So you know mile one is for this
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person. 
And so that was that was a cool 

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thing. 
And then I also had people guess

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my my finishing time and so some
of them were were crazy. 

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Some of them were like you know 
people, a lot of them like on 

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Facebook, people who didn't know
me personally like 3O2 that is 

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not within range for for me but 
I I was flattered And then on 

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the opposite end of the 
spectrum, you know six O 8 and 

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I'm like I sure hope not but but
you know you you bought the you 

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bought the the time so so I'll 
write it down South big spectrum

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there. 
And then a lot of the the 

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00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,840
donations were just from 
reaching out to people 

452
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,840
individually. 
So, you know, Facebook posts, 

453
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,760
all that stuff is great. 
But sending sending a text to, 

454
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,800
you know, my, my, my friends, my
my aunts, uncles, cousins, and 

455
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,480
just saying, hey, y'all remember
when Cadence was going through 

456
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,440
all of this? 
I got this opportunity to run 

457
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,840
the Boston Marathon in her 
honor, raising money for kids in

458
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,960
similar situations. 
Would you mind donating? 

459
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,200
You know, I didn't ask for a 
dollar amount, and those 

460
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,560
donations ranged from from $10 
all the way up to. 

461
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,360
My grandma ended up donating 
300, and that was my that was my

462
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,560
largest donation. 
Wow, that's pretty cool. 

463
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,520
And I think you kind of are 
answering a question that I 

464
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,640
didn't ask you, but in the back 
of my head always had, because I

465
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,920
asked you earlier, how difficult
was it for you to reach out? 

466
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,720
Because I can see myself having 
a really hard time reaching out 

467
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,680
to people. 
But I think you solved that by 

468
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,880
having a charity that has 
something that is very personal 

469
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,640
to you and your daughter that 
you identify with. 

470
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,000
So when you are. 
Asking basically for a donation,

471
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,440
you have a greater cost than if 
you don't have a 'cause that 

472
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560
you're truly behind. 
You're kind of feel like you're 

473
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,000
just asking for money to run a 
marathon versus you're actually 

474
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,040
asking for a donation to help 
out in something that's personal

475
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,360
to you. 
Yeah I think that that's key and

476
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,560
that's that's definitely that's 
that's one of the things that 

477
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,400
before I even started thinking 
about that what what my friend 

478
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,960
Scott had said was find 
something that is is close to 

479
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,560
your heart. 
And you know at the time he 

480
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,080
didn't he didn't know about 
about my daughter. 

481
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,520
I I hadn't posted anything about
about her on my my public page 

482
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,880
or anything. 
But it was immediately, as soon 

483
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,200
as he said that I I just knew 
that if I was going to do this, 

484
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,920
it was going to be for a for a 
children's heart charity. 

485
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,400
That there was there was nothing
closer to me than than that. 

486
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
That's awesome. 
So did you end up raising all 

487
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,760
$8500? 
I did. 

488
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,200
I hit my goal. 
Took me 22 days. 

489
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,040
Wow, so all that what you did, 
you had packed it into 22 days. 

490
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,200
That's a that's a full time job.
It was it was definitely a a 

491
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,720
lot. 
I mean I I exhausted everything 

492
00:29:53,720 --> 00:30:00,240
every I, I both of my kids, 
schools, you know talking to to 

493
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:06,760
other parents there, talking to 
every relative I have you know 

494
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,160
lots of people I went to to 
college with lots of of Co 

495
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,240
workers and you know, not 
everybody donated. 

496
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,720
You know this was not every 
single person I talked to 

497
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,400
donated, but I think it was a 
lot more than if it was just a 

498
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,800
blanket. 
Hey you know if if y'all want to

499
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,200
donate here's my link. 
So I think that individually 

500
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,520
asking people, I think that's 
that's huge and it is, it is 

501
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,520
uncomfortable. 
You know, I don't, I don't, I 

502
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,120
don't like asking for money and 
I think also people 

503
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,880
understanding where the money is
going. 

504
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:47,800
Like I think a lot of people 
were under the impression that 

505
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,880
yes this goes to charity but 
y'all are also funding my my 

506
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,960
race registration or whatever 
and and that is not part of it. 

507
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,720
So I on top of of all of of that
I also, you know I paid the full

508
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,560
registration, all the logistics,
all of that was out of out of 

509
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,160
pocket and so it was not a you 
know, y'all y'all get me to 

510
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,640
Boston and also some of this 
goes to charity. 

511
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,960
It was 100%. 
This is all going to to charity.

512
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,760
And do you do that for a job? 
Is fundraising part of your job 

513
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,120
or is this the first time you 
ever had to fundraise anything? 

514
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,080
So it's not part of my job. 
I was in a sisterhood group in 

515
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,600
in college and so we did a lot 
of philanthropy things. 

516
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,920
We we we would have philanthropy
events, we would ask for 

517
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,080
sponsorships. 
So I had some experience with 

518
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,120
that but again that was much 
lower stakes because when we 

519
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,040
would have a fundraising goal it
was great to meet it but if we 

520
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,600
didn't if we didn't hit our 
fundraising goal it you know we 

521
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,720
weren't liable for anything else
there wasn't there there wasn't 

522
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:05,240
a credit card on the on the line
and and and I also I went to a 

523
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,720
really big school so that the 
network with you know the the 

524
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,040
the groups that I went to 
University of Texas at Austin. 

525
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,920
So with the groups at UT asking 
for for local businesses to to 

526
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,960
sponsor them and stuff they were
kind of used to it. 

527
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,720
It was it was kind of a 
established sort of thing. 

528
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,440
So it was I I had fundraised 
before, but not at the same 

529
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,480
scope and definitely not on my 
own. 

530
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,240
That's pretty amazing. 
I wish I would have known you 

531
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,920
before that, because I would 
have loved to see all these fun 

532
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,400
events. 
Because it sounds like you. 

533
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,440
Kind of. 
Made it really fun. 

534
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,960
So with that said, let's hear 
about how it was running a 

535
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960
marathon. 
As a charity runner, obviously 

536
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,360
you've run a marathon before, so
you can kind of compare the two 

537
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,560
of them. 
But specifically Boston. 

538
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,120
I know you guys get your own 
wave. 

539
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Can you tell? 
Us about the good and the bad 

540
00:32:54,440 --> 00:33:00,560
stuff. 
Yeah, so it was overall, it was 

541
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,760
amazing. 
Just hands down one of the the 

542
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,440
coolest experience experiences 
of my life, it was also it was 

543
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,800
my 31st birthday. 
So that also made things even 

544
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,080
even more exciting over over the
years. 

545
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Boston has fallen on my birthday
multiple times or you know it's 

546
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,080
always close to my birthday and 
it's always been something that 

547
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,120
I'll I'll watch on on TV and and
follow along. 

548
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,840
So you know first and foremost 
it was amazing. 

549
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:36,720
The logistics were were tough 
and I I was super intimidated. 

550
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Like very, very intimidated. 
I knew that there was a six hour

551
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:46,720
time limit, but I truly didn't 
understand the the range of 

552
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,920
charity runners. 
I I thought that I was going to 

553
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,680
be the last person to finish. 
I I wasn't worried about the six

554
00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:00,320
hour time limit, but I thought 
that was more of a you know like

555
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520
formality. 
I didn't think that that that 

556
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,520
people were were from all sorts 
of running backgrounds running 

557
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,600
for for charity. 
I I thought that this was going 

558
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:16,280
to be mostly people who were 
super close to to BQ standards 

559
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:24,199
and you know much faster much 
faster than me and and so that 

560
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,320
was that was one of the the 
things that I was worried going 

561
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,360
in. 
You know I was super 

562
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560
intimidated. 
I I took the bus, we got to 

563
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,280
athletes village and I was super
intimidated and I was there 

564
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,800
hours before I had to start. 
So all the Super fast waves were

565
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,080
there, not the not the 
professionals they had. 

566
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,480
They had taken off before I even
got to to athletes Village but 

567
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,159
the the second and third waves 
they were all there and I was 

568
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:51,560
just like I I did not feel like 
I belonged there. 

569
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,120
I you know, I I kind of felt it 
was definitely it was definitely

570
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,720
a a big case of imposter 
syndrome. 

571
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,880
Like I do not I don't belong 
here. 

572
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,840
I got a chance to to meet my 
friend Scott in person before 

573
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,360
the race and that that was 
awesome. 

574
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,600
You know, we walked to the start
line and all of that. 

575
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,320
That was really nice. 
And then right before starting, 

576
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,920
I actually found the other two 
runners that were running for 

577
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,680
for team Big Heart, and I'd 
never met them person. 

578
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,920
I'd never met any of these 
people in person, but that was 

579
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,680
really cool. 
Like I got to connect with them 

580
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:41,880
right before we actually started
the race and running the race 

581
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,600
itself. 
Once I once I started it was it 

582
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,920
was incredible like the crowds 
every single step of the way 

583
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,760
were amazing. 
The the volunteers everything I 

584
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,720
had. 
I had a a custom bib that had my

585
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,320
name and said that it was my 
birthday. 

586
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,160
So I had so many people yelling 
go Hillary or Happy Birthday and

587
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,720
and so that was huge. 
You know, I I don't think I 

588
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,400
stopped smiling like at any 
point during that. 

589
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,080
And I definitely cannot say that
about any other race I've ever 

590
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,320
run. 
I'm definitely not smiling for 

591
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,680
most of those. 
But it was just such a happy, 

592
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,880
happy occasion. 
One of the really, really cool 

593
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,200
things. 
So heartbreak. 

594
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:31,200
Heartbreak Hill is at about 21 
miles and that's actually where 

595
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,640
the team Big Heart tent was set 
up. 

596
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,720
So you know toughest part of the
race. 

597
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:41,040
I've I've already been been 
running for 3 1/2 hours at this 

598
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:47,400
point and I'm running up the 
longest hill of of the entire 

599
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,640
race. 
It's not particularly steep, but

600
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,760
it goes on and on and on. 
It just keeps going. 

601
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:59,040
And so I during that time, 
that's when I ended up seeing 

602
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,880
the tent for Team Big Heart and 
they, you know, they they saw 

603
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,760
my, my, my singlet that they had
sent me. 

604
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,680
So they they recognized that I 
was on their team gave them gave

605
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,480
them a hug. 
And that was the that was the 

606
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,600
time that I started crying 
during the during the race that 

607
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,080
was, that was when I I teared up
and that was such an emotional 

608
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,800
moment like everything came 
together the the fundraising, 

609
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,160
the, the the people, the race 
everything just just at that 

610
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,920
moment it just was it was it was
just amazing. 

611
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,840
And then you know I had another 
had another hour of running left

612
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:45,920
and I I never hit a wall. 
I I started hoping for it to end

613
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,360
soon around mile 24. 
You know that was the point 

614
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,000
where I was like OK this has 
been great. 

615
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,880
Let's get to the finish line and
then when I made that that last 

616
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:03,200
turn on on Boylston and I could 
see the the finish line, it was 

617
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,760
just surreal. 
I mean I felt like I was running

618
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,080
incredibly fast. 
I I don't think I was running 

619
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,680
all that fast. 
I think I think I was probably 

620
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,680
what my my last point too was 
was probably somewhere in the in

621
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,960
the 8 or 9 minute minute range. 
So it was not an incredible 

622
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,280
Sprint, but it it felt like it. 
And then when I I crossed that 

623
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,200
finish line, it was, it was it 
was just amazing and there were 

624
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,360
so many people who finished 
ahead of me. 

625
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,920
There were so many people still 
on the course like it was it, 

626
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,800
you know, at that point it I 
felt like I'd earned my spot and

627
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,520
I I deserve to be there as much 
as as anybody, anybody else on 

628
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,120
that course. 
I love this. 

629
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,120
You made me tear up with this, 
especially with, you know, 

630
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,360
meeting the charity tent and 
then crossing that finish line. 

631
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,080
Because everybody that is there 
deserves to be there, especially

632
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,040
the charity runners, because 
they do so much more than what 

633
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,000
we do, focusing on our own race.
You actually make a big 

634
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,320
difference in people's lives. 
So I I love all of this and I'm 

635
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,360
really grateful for you sharing 
your story with us and looking 

636
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,520
forward to you. 
Running more marathons following

637
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,400
your amazing Instagram and I 
want to tell our listeners how 

638
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,600
they can find you because you 
always have great stories and 

639
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,480
great posts. 
Thank you. 

640
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,600
So I'm on I'm on Instagram my my
handle it's it's running up 

641
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,280
running up that Hillary there's 
some underscores between the the

642
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,400
words. 
But yeah I post post all sorts 

643
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,880
of stuff I mean Monday and stuff
like hey I went running and then

644
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,040
I try to do inspirational stuff 
occasionally when when the mood 

645
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,640
strikes. 
I I had a had a post recently 

646
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,520
just about charity runner 
misconceptions. 

647
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,760
There was some backlash over the
the 529 cut off with Boston 

648
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,600
recently and a lot of comments 
about how charity runners were 

649
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:12,200
taking up spaces that should 
have been going to to qualifiers

650
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:18,040
and so I. 
I posted my my response to that.

651
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,600
That was a that was a big, big 
part of it. 

652
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,640
You know, product reviews, 
books, all sorts of everything 

653
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,120
running. 
Perfect. 

654
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,800
And we will link that in our 
description. 

655
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,240
And thank you so much for coming
on. 

656
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,960
I really appreciate it. 
Yeah. 

657
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,560
Thanks so much Letty. 
Thank you, Hillary. 

658
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,000
And again, Congrats on running 
Boston and being an amazing 

659
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,640
fundraiser. 
And we will put your handle at 

660
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,400
the bottom of our show notes so 
everyone can find you too. 

661
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,200
So Ryan, let's hop into some 
fundraising ideas that we've 

662
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,160
looked up. 
I know that a lot of the 

663
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,240
charities that you fundraise for
give you ideas and they give you

664
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,800
platforms, but let's talk about 
a few unconventional ways and 

665
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,200
then some traditional 
fundraising ideas. 

666
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,720
So first of. 
All. 

667
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,320
Don't be afraid to ask for big 
amounts. 

668
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,760
It's OK to ask for larger 
amounts because if you don't ask

669
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,400
you will never know. 
Another tip is to be personal, 

670
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,040
so let people know about your 
story. 

671
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,760
Tell them why the cause is big 
to you so that way they can 

672
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,600
connect with you better than you
know. 

673
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,360
You're just asking for money. 
Another tip is to start early. 

674
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,600
You have a year, normally 
between the time that you sign 

675
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,800
up for the race to raise the 
funds. 

676
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,320
So what might be some 
fundraising ideas? 

677
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,800
So the charity of your choice 
will probably provide you with a

678
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,880
website that you can 
personalize. 

679
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:50,200
So I would say make sure that 
you do that, put some pictures 

680
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,520
in it, put in your reason and 
your why, and then you need to 

681
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,120
start asking for donations. 
That would be the easiest way 

682
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,000
because then you just e-mail 
that to your friends. 

683
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,920
You can share that on social 
media. 

684
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,400
And everyone will be able to 
read your story, why you're 

685
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,760
running and how much do you need
to raise. 

686
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,400
But after you've done that, 
there's some other things that 

687
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,280
you should be doing in order to 
get money from other sources. 

688
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,160
Some people work for, you know, 
large corporations or big 

689
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,160
businesses or even even smaller 
businesses, and sometimes maybe 

690
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,840
they would be willing to sponsor
you for a race if you wore like 

691
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,640
AT shirt with their brand name 
on it or something like that. 

692
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,760
You know, that's that's always 
an idea. 

693
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,280
Ask your place of employment if 
they match donations as well, 

694
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,280
because a lot of them have the 
funds for that. 

695
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,640
So you could potentially have 
events that raise money. 

696
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,280
They don't necessarily have to 
be directly related to your 

697
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,920
running, but you're still 
raising money that will then go 

698
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,920
to the charity, which would 
fulfill your requirement. 

699
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Yeah, I think that's a good 
idea. 

700
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,560
I also think it's a good idea 
what Hillary did, which was 

701
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,280
putting up an aid station for 
runners on an area where people 

702
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,360
run. 
And then instead of selling 

703
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,160
something for a dollar, she 
would just give them the 

704
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,160
information on how to donate to 
her. 

705
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,240
Because if you're selling 
something for a dollar, like 

706
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:11,920
you're selling a water for a 
dollar, then you're going to get

707
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,920
a lot less. 
Well, first of all, runners 

708
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,520
don't carry money while they're 
running. 

709
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,680
But second, if they later on go 
back, you're much more likely to

710
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,640
get a higher amount. 
Nobody's going to give you a 

711
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,600
dollar. 
They're going to donate, 

712
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,280
probably, I don't know, $1020.00
for your cause. 

713
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,760
But like if you can give if you 
give a. 

714
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,160
Detailed like history and 
timeline of the process of your 

715
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,280
training, it might get people 
more interested. 

716
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,320
You know, nowadays with YouTube 
and other stuff, you could 

717
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:47,080
create a story of your goal to 
run the marathon or to do the 

718
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,840
even a goal to raise the money. 
And you can document that on, 

719
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,160
you know, the whole process and 
people might be interested in 

720
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,760
that and donate just because of 
that. 

721
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Yeah. 
You can always reach out to your

722
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,480
local running club and tell them
what they are doing. 

723
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,280
I think a lot of runners are 
very supportive of each other 

724
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,360
and we know how hard it is to 
fundraise and your friends will 

725
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,240
always be behind you with that. 
We're going to include some 

726
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:16,120
links in this podcast about 
various platforms, including 

727
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,520
Saint Jude. 
They have a lot of tips on how 

728
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,600
to fundraise, so just know that 
it's been done before and you're

729
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,640
not alone. 
There's tons of ideas. 

730
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,200
There are also Facebook groups. 
That teach you how to raise 

731
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,120
funds for your charity event. 
So actually if you just look and

732
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,640
you research a bit, you can find
just ways to fundraise. 

733
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,400
It doesn't necessarily have to 
be related to running, but just 

734
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,200
any type of fundraising. 
And you know a lot of times one 

735
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,920
of the most prominent we we 
already alluded, we already 

736
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,760
talked about some of them but 
like crowd for crowdfunding 

737
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,200
campaign. 
You know you can encourage 

738
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,880
matching donations. 
Corporate donations are always 

739
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,960
good, so like either your place 
or work or another place of work

740
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,640
and you can sell stuff, you can 
sell products, you can sell 

741
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,320
another race or walk or 5K or 
anything like that. 

742
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,800
You can also one that we didn't 
say, I don't think is you can 

743
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,120
try to encourage other people to
raise money for you so you can 

744
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,480
have other people going around 
and asking if they would also. 

745
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,120
Like to contribute to your cause
so. 

746
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,160
Yeah, put your kids to work, 
give them some candy, and go 

747
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,360
through the neighborhood. 
I'm kidding. 

748
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,840
I think one of the biggest 
things is if you just sit down 

749
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,240
and and come up with like a game
plan and do your research, it'll

750
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:40,520
help you organize and figure out
what the best way to approach or

751
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,120
tackle the the problem of 
raising in The Boston Marathon 

752
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,520
Case $8000. 
Yeah, it's a lot. 

753
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:52,560
But you also can do, and this is
not online, is go to your local 

754
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,640
stores that you frequent and ask
them for products like Ryan 

755
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,640
said, and then later on sell 
them or do some sort of silent 

756
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,880
auction where you can get funds 
for that. 

757
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,080
If you tell them that you're 
doing it for a cause, the local 

758
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,960
shops might have some money set 
apart for things like that and 

759
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,200
will contribute because they're 
also getting their name out 

760
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,000
there if you do something that's
local. 

761
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,880
So yeah, I always think that 
people seem to be more willing 

762
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,400
to give if they get something in
return. 

763
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,520
Or even if you did something 
simple, like just made T-shirts 

764
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,320
about your run or your charity 
or your your process and 

765
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,240
everything else and and sold, 
those people might be more 

766
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:33,480
willing to actually buy AT shirt
'cause they get something out of

767
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,480
it. 
And then any of the profits from

768
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,200
that go to your race. 
Exactly. 

769
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,760
And they know it goes to a good 
cause. 

770
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,040
And yeah, what you said about 
the local shops is. 

771
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,240
They're not just doing something
for a good cause, but they also 

772
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:50,000
get more publicity about their 
store and people will probably 

773
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,440
then know about their store and 
come shop there in return. 

774
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,440
So we're just coming up with 
these from our little research, 

775
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
but also do your own research, 
'cause there's tons of 

776
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,800
information out there now and 
probably some better ideas even 

777
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,280
out there that you can figure 
out. 

778
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,000
And if you find some, let us 
know. 

779
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Exactly. 
So. 

780
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,960
So that concludes our episode on
charity running. 

781
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Thank you again Hillary. 
We hope that you liked her 

782
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,160
story. 
Stay tuned for next week when we

783
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,600
will have a recap of the New 
York City Marathon. 

784
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,560
Since this was my first time 
running it, I'm very excited to 

785
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,840
share that with you. 
Follow us on Instagram. 

786
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,360
We are at Running Podcast where 
we posted stories all weekend 

787
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,400
long about the New York City 
Marathon. 

788
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,120
So if you want to see what it 
looked like, that's where it 

789
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,200
will be. 
Anything else from you, Ryan? 

790
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,560
And hopefully this will 
encourage some people to step 

791
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,160
out of their comfort zone and 
and go raise funds to run a 

792
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,400
marathon that maybe they dreamed
about but hadn't done. 

793
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,760
Exactly, because you do make a 
difference, and maybe it'll also

794
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,000
fuel your why and you'll be a 
stronger runner just from doing 

795
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,280
that. 
And with that? 

796
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:01,400
Have a great week of running. 
Thanks for tuning in. 

797
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:04,520
For more information Ant 
Marathon running news, please 

798
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,360
head to 
www.marathonrunningpodcast.com 

799
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,200
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