1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 This episode has been sponsored by a generation. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,640 You can more about our sponsor later on in the show. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,880 You're listening to. Episode 200 of the Marathon 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,040 Running Podcast. In this episode we're going to 5 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:14,240 talk about the fact that it's one month till Boston. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,680 This is the Marathon Running Podcast by Letty and Ryan from 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,440 Week at The Runs. Join us in our running community 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,120 for weekly content that is motivational, educational and 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,120 inspirational, and that the Marathon Running Podcast take 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,200 you from the starting line to the finish line and beyond. 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,200 Hey runners, and welcome to episode 200 of the Marathon 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,160 Running Podcast. My Name Is Letty. 13 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,840 My name is Ryan. And we have one month till 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,000 Boston. It reminds me of the song by 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Kermit the Frog, One More Sleep Till Christmas. 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,520 I don't even know that, so I'm sure I've heard it. 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,280 But anyway, 200 weeks of marathon podcasts, huh? 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,160 Without interruption. Well, I think we had four or 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,720 five replays during the hurricane season where we didn't 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,760 have electricity. But that's it. 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,920 Yeah, I know, I know. If it were now, I would probably 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,520 be. There's a generator outside. 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,400 Before you ran out of gas. But if it weren't now, I'd 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,200 probably somehow magically get it. 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,200 But you know what? We also didn't have Internet so. 26 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:28,840 It's a milestone. Maybe we'll get 200 listeners on 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,280 the 200th episode. That would be bad. 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,240 I don't think I'd be podcasting anymore. 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,480 If we're counting on 200 listeners, not that size 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,680 matters, But it does, right? I mean, you wanna, you wanna 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,000 know? You're. 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,520 Doing a good job, you wanna know that you have you're creating 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,000 some benefit or to people or you're helping them. 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,320 If you have 200 listeners is decent though. 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,640 But if you had like 1 listener and it was your brother or 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,080 something, it probably would not motivate you much to continue 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,560 on. Yeah, yeah. 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,680 No, that's true. But yeah, so for those of you 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,760 that are new, thank you for tuning in. 40 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,479 We do a weekly, as you know, as you just learned, a running 41 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:14,280 podcast on all things running and coaching and nutrition. 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,400 We always try to get expert guests because we are not the 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,240 experts, but we try to connect you with the experts so that way 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,000 you can have a better running experience. 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,400 And yeah, thank you to everyone that has tuned in before. 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Agreed, Definitely. Like we were just were saying, 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,680 it motivates us. I love hearing good messages, or 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,760 messages that people say it's helpful. 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,280 Or even if there's messages that aren't good, like some 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,800 constructive criticism, I'm always open to that too. 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,800 Yes, we love constructive criticism. 52 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,000 We love it in the way of direct messages on Instagram, not via 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:54,320 less than five star reviews. Yeah, but yeah, so here we are 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,200 and literally it's a month out till Boston, you guys. 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,400 For those of you that are running the Boston Marathon, it 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,600 is almost taper time. For those of you who are not 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,160 running the Boston Marathon, you can listen to this episode still 58 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,480 for some future motivation or just entertainment, If you're 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,240 not interested in running Boston at all, it's it's always it's 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,240 always kind of cool to hear certain things about what goes 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,600 on in the running community. And it's useful not only for 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Boston, but other places too. Exactly. 63 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Yeah. So this episode is all about 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,960 getting you guys hyped up and maybe telling you guys a little 65 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,480 bit about the Boston Marathon. But we're going to hype you up a 66 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,840 little bit. And then you're going to hear 67 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,800 from Ron Tap, who's an elite coach who will give you some 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,440 tips on how to race this marathon and what to do leading 69 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,880 up to it in the last month. So get excited. 70 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Also, I want to invite you guys to tune into YouTube. 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,280 We now are doing most of our podcasts and putting them onto 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,800 YouTube. So if you want to see what we 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,280 look like, if you want to see if Ryan is taller than me, you can 74 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,160 do that there. You thought he has a bigger head 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,360 than me? And you can see our cute, cuddly 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,640 dog that usually sits on Ryan's lap. 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,440 So they always do that. Little traitors, but we love him 78 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,440 so. Anyway, so let's talk a little 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,680 bit about the Boston Marathon, one of the most prestigious, 80 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,800 arguably but definitely oldest annual marathon held in the 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,520 world. The first Boston was in 1897, 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,680 and it is now also part of the Marathon World Majors. 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 You know, the six major marathons in the world where you 84 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,280 can earn a star and then get the six star medal upon completing 85 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:35,360 all of them? It's. 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Wait, how do you get that medal? So you have to run all six world 87 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:45,760 major marathons, which are Tokyo, Boston, London, Chicago, 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,080 New York, and ones escaping me, Berlin, Berlin, my country. 89 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,160 So you have. Five of six. 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,320 Yeah, but then do you have to like put in an application or 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,320 something to get the medal? Yeah, and you basically just 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,240 sign up with the Avid company. It's the Avid World Majors. 93 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,200 So they keep track of all your stars that you earn. 94 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,720 And then before completing the last marathon of your series, 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,400 you e-mail them and let them know, hey, this is going to be 96 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,200 my six star. And then they have a tent at the 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,000 finish line where they're awaiting you with this massive 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,440 round medal with, you know, six different star, 6 different 99 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,040 little medals on them to commemorate that. 100 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,160 So it's good to know. Yeah, it's good to know. 101 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,840 Some of them, maybe, if people wanna aspire too. 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Exactly. And so for that reason, you 103 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,360 know, this episode might be useful for that as well. 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,840 So, historical significance of the Boston Marathon? 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,280 Yeah, so I'm gonna cheat and read this off here. 106 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:51,240 So, so the historical significance is that this event, 107 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,880 the Boston Marathon, was inspired by the success of the 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,960 marathon event in 1896 Summer Olympics, and it has since now 109 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,600 grown into a symbol of Boston's strength and endurance. 110 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,560 Especially, you know, after the bombing that happened in 2013 111 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,120 when two terrorists planted backpacks with bombs that got 112 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,280 unfortunately went off during the marathon. 113 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Injured a bunch of people. That's a long time ago. 114 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:20,600 I mean, hopefully that didn't take something like that to 115 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,840 strengthen it, but it's always been strong. 116 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:27,000 But it's really unfortunate, yeah, but it does sometimes 117 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 bring communities and people together if you know you are 118 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,840 faced with tragedy or even adversity or anything. 119 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,720 Yeah. And it seems like, you know, 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,280 since then the phrase Boston Strong can be seen on items and 121 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,320 it it does, it does strengthen it as you said so. 122 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:49,120 So tell us about the route. So the route is one that starts 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,080 obviously 26.2 miles, but it starts in the town of Hopkinton 124 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,040 and that's West of Boston and then it runs into Boston. 125 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,360 So it's a point to point. It's a net downhill. 126 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,480 However, there's a lot of hills that are happening in during 127 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,440 that during that race and it ends in Boston Copley Square and 128 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,120 you go through literally what you would see in a picture book. 129 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,000 When you're looking at New England images, you know 130 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,360 historic neighborhoods or little inclines, there's obviously 131 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,960 things like Heartbreak Hill, which is the series of big hills 132 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,640 that happened during the Boston Marathon. 133 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,800 And while we're talking about this topic, I want to briefly 134 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,200 mention that last year, actually exactly one year ago, we 135 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,120 recorded an episode labeled Boston Marathon 101, the course 136 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,960 where we talked to a running coach about every little turn 137 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,000 and every little step and hill that happens during the Boston 138 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,760 Marathon. And that is episode 147. 139 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,360 I will link that in the description of this podcast 140 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,960 because I feel like that is super helpful for somebody who 141 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,600 has never done Boston or for those of you guys that are like 142 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,200 me who get runner's amnesia who forget what the race looks like. 143 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,320 Yeah, every time you do a race recap, it's like, so do what 144 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,960 happened to their first? I don't remember. 145 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,840 And you have to think back. And you do remember eventually. 146 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,840 But I do. I'm just more of a person that 147 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,680 has a lot of feelings, so I know how. 148 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,800 I felt. Doing something, but I can't 149 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,040 pinpoint why I felt like that, yeah. 150 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,120 So it is known for being difficult to get into and the 151 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,280 qualifying standards right. Yes, Boston has a very harsh 152 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:37,200 qualifying standard and it also is very well known for the 153 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,200 charities that it has. There's a ton of charities. 154 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,480 You have to raise a lot of money. 155 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,840 I think the lowest money amount that you can raise is $8000. 156 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,000 But obviously you know it's always great to raise money for 157 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:56,840 a charity and and so there's I think there is 5000, it was 5 or 158 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,520 8000 charity spots and then the rest of the 30,000 runners is 159 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,960 going to be people that get in because of a qualifying time. 160 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,520 The qualifying time is by age group. 161 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,480 So the fastest people of age group of each you know 162 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,480 corresponding age group gets in first. 163 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,400 And they have actual numbers that you can look up, but it 164 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,800 doesn't necessarily mean you're guaranteed entry if you get that 165 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,000 number right. Yes. 166 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Like for example this Boston 2024. 167 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,560 There was a cut off by 5 minutes and 29 seconds. 168 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,320 So even if your qualifying time is a three hour marathon, you 169 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:38,440 had to run 2 hours 54 minutes and you know. 170 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,040 A few seconds. Yes, I was trying to do the math 171 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,520 in my head. I didn't listen to your number, 172 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,120 so I couldn't do it either. Yeah. 173 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,720 Yeah. And be By being one of the 174 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,080 bigger marathons, do you get a lot of crowds? 175 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,840 A ton of crowds. They are not like New York, not 176 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,960 like Tokyo, not like Berlin. Because this is a point to point 177 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,040 race and so it makes it difficult for people to come see 178 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,840 you more than once and most people probably come cheer from 179 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,600 the area where they're staying at. 180 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:11,680 And I wanna say, I mean there's a good 1015 miles from after 181 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:16,280 you've started a mile into till mile 1617 where you probably 182 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,480 really wouldn't stay in a hotel. So it doesn't. 183 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:23,200 So then you're you know dependent on the spectators from 184 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,400 those specific areas, which is still great. 185 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,120 I am just saying it's not like you know New York where you have 186 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,080 spectators 10 deep. New York is pretty much point to 187 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,520 point race too, isn't it? But there's it is a dense city. 188 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:37,680 There's a lot more people. Yes, exactly. 189 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,000 But, but yeah, other other races like the Stockholm Marathon, not 190 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,240 one of the majors. We went by one Rd. like three 191 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,880 times, which it wasn't like it wasn't repetitive while you were 192 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,400 running. It was kind of nice, but then it 193 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,160 allowed for a lot of people to stay in one spot and see a lot 194 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,680 of people. Yeah, just turn around and look 195 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:58,240 at the other Rd. behind them. Yeah. 196 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,440 So, yeah, but I mean it's still, it's still, I mean, honestly, 197 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,640 it's still one of my favorite races. 198 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,840 I prefer Chicago because of, you know, the logistics, but Boston 199 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,520 definitely is probably #2. So what about some of the events 200 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,080 of the weekend? Yeah. 201 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:22,000 So it's one of the most exciting race weekends because if you are 202 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,880 close to the Boston Commons, which is by the Finish Line 203 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:30,280 area, they put up a fan Fest, they put up a Saturday 5K that 204 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,360 you can just sign up. You don't have to qualify for 205 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,840 it. They have the Expo in that area. 206 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:40,160 And the Expo, it seems like nowadays the sponsoring brands 207 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:43,360 almost kick out other competitors from the Expo. 208 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,080 So what happened in Boston is there's a street called Newbury 209 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,960 Street and there's so many running pop up events, you know, 210 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,160 where stores couple up with brands and and it's it's kind of 211 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,080 better than the Expo and obviously good for the brands 212 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,800 too because they don't have to pay the 20 or $30,000 for their 213 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,800 spots and booth at the Expo. So super interesting, exciting, 214 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,400 there's a ton of merch you can buy. 215 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,840 What else is there, you know? And then there's the 216 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,240 festivities, there's pasta dinners, there are shakeout runs 217 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,920 also hosted by running clubs, other brands, et cetera. 218 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,600 And I mean, it's kind of like a runner's haven, really unique 219 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,480 events, speaking panels, all that stuff. 220 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,320 So it's it's like an Expo in Steroids, but better. 221 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,040 Like the whole thing is an Expo. It's more of an event weekend as 222 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,360 opposed to like some marathons where you just do an Expo and 223 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,800 then race. Yes, exactly. 224 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,920 And believe it or not, Ryan, I actually like that better than 225 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,760 the Expo, the Newberry St. events and just everything 226 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:44,760 surrounded. I can see that. 227 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,280 I mean, it's basically like a giant Expo. 228 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,080 Outside. And everyone knows your favorite 229 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,760 thing is the Expo. Yes, it is. 230 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:56,360 Yeah. So I mean, definitely worth some 231 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:02,280 time spending there. So what else can you tell us 232 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:07,160 about the Boston Marathon? I mean, Boston is Boston, right? 233 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,200 However you got in is way, I mean it's a reason to be proud 234 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,720 of yourself either you qualified and you trained really hard or 235 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,280 you trained really hard and you are doing a charity which means 236 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,040 you're doing even more work than just following your training 237 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,960 plan because you're there fundraising. 238 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,360 So I feel like you know it it kind of calls for a lot of 239 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,720 emotion during during the run and and at the finish line you 240 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,120 see a lot of people hugging, crying and then of course it's 241 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,880 one of the we've talked about that the world majors that you 242 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,800 complete and depending on the. Yes, bragging rights. 243 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,320 Bragging rights. But then also, you know, Boston 244 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:50,240 being in April, a lot of the time the weather is hot or cold 245 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,240 or, you know, not just kind of normal cruising. 246 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:56,760 So you feel extra proud of yourself for finning this, 247 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,480 finishing this event, just because. 248 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:01,280 I don't know. I feel like there's just so much 249 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,680 to it, yeah. So what are the some of the 250 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:09,840 things that people can do to prepare themselves for doing the 251 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,840 Boston Marathon? I mean, you know again and it is 252 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,520 a, it's an interesting and a difficult course. 253 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,200 So with that you have to train smart. 254 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,960 But I guess we're kind of late in the game of saying that 255 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,000 because Boston is a month away. There's hills in there. 256 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,560 So hope you train smart. Yeah, train smart practice 257 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,000 refueling strategies. Come prepared with throwaway 258 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,320 clothes and different clothing options because I heard that in 259 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,080 2018, obviously that was the year where they had the bad 260 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,920 weather. You know, just just just bring 261 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,760 your shoe covers. Shoe covers is one of the items 262 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,320 like shower cap type of things that I've worn into the tent 263 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,880 prior to the marathon because you have to sit there forever 264 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,240 and if it's raining like it was last year, your feet get wet and 265 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,840 and that's not really pleasant to start with, obviously 266 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,400 inevitable when you're running but. 267 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Yeah, but it's different if it's raining because it's just gets 268 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,320 soaked to, whereas if you're running, your feet get wet. 269 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,440 But they might, actually, they're not soaked the same way, 270 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,080 where you get like blister, worst blisters and other stuff. 271 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,240 No, that's true. From when it rains but. 272 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Yeah, but I mean, other than that, my, my number one thing is 273 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,880 always just enjoy the experience. 274 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,000 This is something that we choose to do, so it shouldn't be 275 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,680 stressful. It's it's something that we want 276 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,720 to do. And I feel like complaining is 277 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,200 the worst thing that we can do in a situation like that because 278 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,520 we've paid money to be there. Our family has made sacrifices 279 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,520 with us, training and watching kids and all that stuff. 280 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,640 So more than anything, I feel like we should be grateful to be 281 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,440 there. And, you know, I mean, it's kind 282 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,160 of always the same. The day before the marathon, you 283 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,680 sit there and you think, why am I here? 284 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,520 Why am I doing this to myself? And then as soon as you cross 285 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,680 the finish line, you're like, oh, when's the next time? 286 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,760 I think at every marathon there's one spectator that says 287 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,800 you paid to do this with the sign to make you feel bad. 288 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,040 No, absolutely. Yeah, I think, I think, you 289 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,560 know, given given the notoriety of the marathon, the Boston 290 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Marathon and being what it is, it can become more of a 291 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:15,280 memorable experience even than a marathon that's maybe less well 292 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,680 known. Absolutely, Yeah. 293 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,080 And and obviously as you know it's kind of for me it was a one 294 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:26,880 time thing and then now it's almost yearly thing just like 295 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,640 Chicago but you know if it's a good thing why why would you not 296 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,240 come back to it. And along those lines we are now 297 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,680 gonna hear from Ron Tabb my running coach and our family 298 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,920 friend who used to race in the 80s professionally. 299 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,800 He his PR is a 20931 that he ran when the PR was. 300 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,640 I mean the the world record was only 30 seconds away. 301 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,880 So you know it just tells you what type of caliber he is. 302 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,200 He still frequently travels to races and including Boston 303 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,280 sometimes, and he coaches a bunch of elite runners and lay 304 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,599 people like myself and he is gonna give us a little talk 305 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:15,760 about what we can do one month out from Boston. 306 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:19,319 Yeah, I think Ron can definitely give you some insight as into 307 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:22,040 the race. It's just funny. 308 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,880 I always think of when I see here those times, one I think of 309 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,400 how amazing was that they were running so fast back in the 80s 310 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,120 and we think of all the new technology of issues and stuff 311 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:35,400 that we have now. But the the the times are not 312 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,120 that drastically different. I mean it is a lot, you know, a 313 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:44,200 minute, but when you're talking about two hours you think it 314 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,400 would be I I would think it would have been greater, you 315 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,240 know. Yeah. 316 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,520 No, absolutely. I agree. 317 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,280 But it just shows, I guess that people are at their peak, you 318 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,360 know, of of what they're capable of, where we're at now even and 319 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,480 any little improvements, just the small increments. 320 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Yeah. No, absolutely. 321 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,720 But that being said, you know he's done it or he's been to the 322 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,720 Boston Marathon, raced in it and then been for The Spectator and 323 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,400 other things for years, so. Podium did came in second in 324 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:19,160 1983 and 3rd and and everything else you know around that time 325 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,120 when he was racing. So he's definitely a good person 326 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:25,760 to hear from when it comes to really, you know, if you want to 327 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,880 do your best in this marathon, this would be the person to hear 328 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,960 from. I'm getting it. 329 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,960 All right, so without any further ado, we're now gonna 330 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:38,480 hear from Ron Tabb. All right, so I'm back on here 331 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,360 with Ron Tabb. Ron, welcome back. 332 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,520 Hi, Thank you for having me again. 333 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,920 Of course, we wanted to do a podcast and episode and talk a 334 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,360 little bit about things that should be done, should have been 335 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,880 done, etcetera. So how about I give you the 336 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,440 microphone and let you do the leading as to what we should be 337 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,080 talking about when we're a month out from Boston? 338 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,680 Well, there's a lot that goes into the preparation and you 339 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,320 know most of the preparation has been done or should have been 340 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,920 done by now. Let's get you know we've we've 341 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,320 arrived at Boston, you know you you want to get there at least 342 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,880 by Saturday. So you're rested. 343 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,800 You're well rested before the race. 344 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,600 You know the that will be the most that the two nights before 345 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,800 is actually your most important night of rest. 346 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,880 You know, and I I know that the excitement of going to the 347 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Convention Center, picking up your bib number and, you know, 348 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,440 seeing everything and everyone that's that's there excites most 349 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,000 people. But that that could be 350 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,320 distracting and taking away from your actual performance because 351 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,760 if you're on your legs, you're losing. 352 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Yeah, you're wasting energy. I typically like, and I 353 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:03,200 encourage my athletes to just, you know, go go pick up your bid 354 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,440 number, you know, go, go to the Expo, do it for, you know, an 355 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,280 hour or so, but get back to the hotel and get off your feet. 356 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,400 You know, read a book, turn on the boob tube. 357 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:20,080 Check your emails. Do whatever you're doing, but 358 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:22,240 stay off your feet as much as possible. 359 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,040 Keep you know, stay rested. Now go out and get your little 360 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,840 shake out. Run on Saturday and Sunday. 361 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:37,520 Get a few strides in on Sunday and you're you know, begin your 362 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,600 carbo loading on Friday or Saturday rather. 363 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,160 And you know, so you know the most important meal, it's 364 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,480 probably going to be your Saturday meal. 365 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Sunday you're going to eat light but you still want a carbo load. 366 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,920 And it sounds crazy, but one of my, one of the one of the things 367 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:06,720 I liked doing was I just get a bag of chip ahoy cookies and, 368 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,320 you know, and make sure that I had, you know, plenty of of 369 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,240 electrolytes in the room to to wash it down. 370 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,960 But that was just my that was my routine. 371 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,000 I didn't want to be out socializing. 372 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,120 I didn't want to be out at the Expo. 373 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:33,640 I made myself very, I guess, invisible because I just wanted 374 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,800 to focus on, you know, focus on the race. 375 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Yeah, which is kind of hard when it comes to Boston, just because 376 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,160 Boston is not just a race, as we all know. 377 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,520 It's more of a convention of runners. 378 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,560 And you have all these panels, one of which you might be on 379 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,280 this year. And so it's hard to just decide 380 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,600 I'm going to forego all of this and just sit in my hotel room. 381 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,440 Meanwhile, all this greatness is happening around me. 382 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Oh, I I understand it. But I mean you're spending to 383 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,400 do, you know to go to Boston, you're spending a couple of 384 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,240 $1000 to go out there, you know between your airfare, your hotel 385 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,680 and and so on and so forth. And you've put in, hopefully 386 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,680 you've put in at least 12 to 14 weeks of of build up towards 387 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,040 Boston. I don't want to go personally, I 388 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,760 I don't, I don't want to go to a race like that and not get as 389 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,040 much out of the race as I possibly can. 390 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,800 I, you know one of the reasons I've worked my butt off to get 391 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,760 to that point is because I want to see what I'm capable of doing 392 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,520 and those distractions of being on your feet for five or six and 393 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560 I see it all. You know we we were in Paris you 394 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,800 saw that last last April. You know and you're at the you 395 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,080 got the packet picked up and there's the Expo and you know 396 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,800 all the vendors have everything to you know to look at and to 397 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,520 try and and then you're getting the photo OPS and so on and so 398 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,200 forth. 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So let me talk to you a little 451 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,720 bit about Boston since you've done it and you got second in 452 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,400 83. Maybe talk to us a little bit 453 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,760 about tips that you have for the course, because the course has 454 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,560 not changed. Yeah, I do have a little 455 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,000 experience there. Yeah. 456 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,640 You know that bus ride that you take out to Hopkinson, you know 457 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:30,280 that's where you just, you know it's you get up early you know 458 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,320 you're looking for a place to you know to just stay warm to 459 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,520 stretch out. It's crowded. 460 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,840 It can be cold. It can be hot. 461 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,960 You just never know what to expect when you're when you're 462 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,520 there, you know and and then you're looking for your corral, 463 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,400 you know. So the the nice thing about you 464 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,360 get to do almost a little meditation on the way from the 465 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,960 hotel to the, you know, to Hopkinton. 466 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Sitting on the bus there and reflecting know, you think about 467 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,320 your race strategy, making sure that you have everything you 468 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,600 know at from the hotel to the you know to the starting line. 469 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,840 You know, make sure you've got, you know, your little bag, 470 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,720 you've got your Vaseline, you know, to put, you know, in 471 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:25,080 potential shaping areas, make sure you have your shoes. 472 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,960 Everything's pinned properly. I mean, everything has to be 473 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,960 perfect. And you know, then you're 474 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,880 thinking about, OK, what do I want to do? 475 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,680 You know, I get to yeah, you know, I'm, I'm on the starting 476 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,560 line. How do I want to approach the 477 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,520 race? And you know, my first 478 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:48,320 experience of Boston was a disaster because I had, I didn't 479 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,960 know the course. I'd never run the course before. 480 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,400 I didn't realize that the first, you know, we didn't have social 481 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,400 media, we didn't have the Internet and access to 482 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,880 everything we do today. And so that first nine miles at 483 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,280 Boston is a screamer because you're basically dropping in 484 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,760 altitude and and you know, it's really easy to go out way, way 485 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,000 too fast. And then by the time you realize 486 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,120 that you've gone out too fast, it's too late. 487 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,960 And for me it was a race where, you know, if I knew what I know 488 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,640 today, I would have run it completely different. 489 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,480 So advising folks that are running Boston maybe for their 490 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,760 first time is to go out very conservatively. 491 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,320 Don't get caught up in the excitement with the helicopters 492 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,640 and the media and you know, the the world class athletes that 493 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,280 you're going to see there. I mean, you know, try to try to 494 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,120 keep the adrenaline to, you know, under control so you're 495 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,520 not going out faster than what you know that you're capable of 496 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680 doing. You know, if you're a three hour 497 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,040 marathon runner, don't go out at 5 minute pace. 498 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,480 If you're a four hour you know, you know. 499 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Don't go out at the six minute pace, you know find something 500 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,000 that is you know you should buy now you know what your pace is. 501 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,760 You know what you're capable of doing. 502 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,560 So start off or begin your race a little bit slower than what 503 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,240 your what you believe your average pace will be for the 504 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,960 race and you'll have a much better experience. 505 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,960 Even though it's downhill and then uphill, right? 506 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,480 Because I know normally when we have a race course, it's 507 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,440 probably, I mean it's still hard, but it's easier to 508 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,400 negative split when you have a race course that has a downhill 509 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,520 towards the end. But with Boston, we're kind of 510 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,200 seeing, you know the four Newton hills are going to be after mile 511 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,520 16. So how do you negative split on 512 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,840 a course like that? Again going out conservatively, 513 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,400 my the my 83 race, I almost ran identical splits. 514 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,160 I was 104 and changed for the first half and 104 and changed 515 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,360 for the second-half. And that was because I had now 516 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:13,400 I'd run Boston a few times, so I knew how to manage the course. 517 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,760 I didn't let the course dictate to me how it was going to be 518 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,560 run. I knew how the course was, so I 519 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,640 was much more conservative with my approach. 520 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,600 You know, staying just under 5 minute pace to to be to begin 521 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,600 with and finishing up at just under, well, even the last mile. 522 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,800 I it was the fastest mile of the 26 that I ran. 523 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,680 I was under 440 for the last mile and that was because I run 524 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,720 a smart race from start to finish. 525 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,920 OK. And let me take another step 526 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,480 back. I know that you lived in 527 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,520 Houston, I'm assuming at the time you're running Boston. 528 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,760 And so that's a flat area. And I know that you always tell 529 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,600 your athletes you can train on flat and still do well on hills. 530 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,960 Talk to us a little bit about that because all those training 531 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,560 plans out there, most of them do dictate that for Boston, 532 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,240 particularly run bridges or find anything with an incline. 533 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,360 So that way your body can get used to that. 534 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Yeah, my training was probably unorthodox compared to what most 535 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,320 folks do today. And and yes, everything you read 536 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,560 is, you know, hill train, Hill train, Hill train. 537 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Because Boston is so hilly. When I when I lived in Houston, 538 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040 obviously I had the same situation living in Florida, 539 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:48,600 there are no hills to train on. But I maybe made compensation or 540 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:54,280 compensated for the lack of hills by running very fast on 541 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,280 the flats. And so many of the workouts that 542 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,080 I was doing, many of the runs that I did, I was running 543 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,400 basically at race pace or within 10 seconds of what race pace 544 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,840 will be to negotiate the hills without having any issues. 545 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,640 OK, awesome. All right, So a couple more 546 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,920 things. I know that you had one Boston 547 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,160 race that kind of blew up because you didn't hydrate at 548 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160 all. Can you talk to us about the 549 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:32,160 importance of hydration? Yeah, so I had been successful 550 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,200 in running races, running marathons without taking liquids 551 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,760 while I was running. So it's Boston 79. 552 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:48,120 It was a warm day and I attempted to run because trying 553 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,160 to grab a a bottle at an aid station or a cup at an aid 554 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,360 station through it got you out of your rhythm, got me out of my 555 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640 rhythm. And you know, it's really hard 556 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:08,920 when you're trying to grab that. So I get to the 22, 2122 mile 557 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:14,200 mark and I'm in running the top ten at that at that point and 558 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,840 all of a sudden I go from where just I'm dizzy, I'm dehydrated, 559 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,920 I haven't taken any liquids and I go from running a low 5 minute 560 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,600 pace to running high 7 minute pace. 561 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,360 So I go from being in the top ten to where I was 51st or 52nd, 562 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,640 you know, went from running a 212 marathon to a 219 marathon. 563 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,840 So I just completely crashed the last three miles. 564 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,160 It was it was a train wreck. So you definitely want to begin. 565 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,920 You want to hydrate well before your race and that even goes 566 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,280 back to, you know, before you get on the bus is to take off 567 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,880 for the for Hopkinton, You know, take some liquids with you, You 568 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,960 know, take your water bottle with whatever it is that you 569 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:12,480 have in it and then try to take aid early and often on the 570 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,280 course, especially if it's if it's a warm day. 571 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,440 Yeah, absolutely. So we've got the tips for for a 572 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,800 lot of things. Any other additional tips that 573 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,400 you have for a first time Boston runner or people that could 574 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,159 potentially have anything that they could improve with? 575 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,080 Well, you definitely want to. You don't want to try anything 576 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,880 in a in in any race that you haven't tried in practice. 577 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,639 So whatever you're doing, what your plans are for your races, 578 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,520 you should practice it in your training ahead of time. 579 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,400 Don't wear a brand new pair of shoes that you haven't run in 580 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,000 before you know. Don't try. 581 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,960 Don't eat something that you haven't eaten before your race 582 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,200 because it may sneak up on you and you're fine looking for a 583 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,680 port, a potty somewhere along the course. 584 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,440 You know, make sure that everything that you do and a 585 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,480 race is something that you've done in training. 586 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,280 Don't try anything new before your races or you may regret it, 587 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,960 you know, So could be could make for a long day. 588 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,920 Yeah, yeah, no kidding. Well, cool, Ron. 589 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,880 Hopefully we'll see you out in Boston. 590 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,520 And thank you for talking to us about that coming. 591 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:42,640 You're more than welcome. All right. 592 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,760 Thank you, Ron, for speaking with us. 593 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,120 Ryan, do you have anything else, Any other things that you think 594 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,680 people should do in the last month prior to the marathon? 595 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:58,200 Oh, you caught me off guard there. 596 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,920 I think that. I just remember like that it's 597 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,280 the whole thing is an experience and experiences are one of the 598 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,360 probably the best things you can do for yourself over your life. 599 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,080 I think they always talk about spending money on experiences 600 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,040 rather than things and then leave lead to happier a life. 601 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,280 So I think just keep that in mind and just take the whole 602 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,200 experience in and and try to enjoy it. 603 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,240 Yeah. And then piggyback on that, I I 604 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,720 like that you said that. And I also feel like, you know, 605 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,680 you can always learn from those experiences too. 606 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,880 And then if you are not satisfied with your performance, 607 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680 you can do better learning from that said experience. 608 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,360 OK, All right. So that's it for today. 609 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,000 I hope you enjoyed this episode and learned a little bit of 610 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,920 something and got motivated, hyped up. 611 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,840 And we will see you there next month. 612 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,280 Hopefully. We'll be going to a couple of 613 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,200 these Fan Fest events and if you see me, say hi, please. 614 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,560 And with that? Happy, happy Boston Marathon. 615 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,040 Thanks for tuning in. 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