1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,040 You're listening to episode 210 of the Marathon Running Podcast. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,920 In this episode, we're going to hear an inspirational story of a 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,440 runner who was told he would never run again. 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,480 This is the Marathon Running Podcast by Letty and Ryan from 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,240 Week at the Runs. Join us in our running community 6 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,920 for weekly content that is motivational, educational and 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,920 inspirational and that the Marathon Running Podcast take 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,960 you from the starting line to the finish line and beyond. 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,880 Hey runners, and welcome to episode 210. 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,000 My name is Letty. My name is Ryan. 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,640 And we are here today, celebrating our 4th podcast 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,400 anniversary. Sure about that. 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Yes, so I've actually been telling people that we are in 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:01,080 our fifth year, which we will be now, but I got really confused 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,200 so I got us a cake. Would you guys have probably 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,840 seen on Instagram by now where I've put happy 5th anniversary? 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,000 That's confusing right? This literally happened 5 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,920 minutes ago. That's pretty funny though. 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,320 I shouldn't have gotten a number on the cake, but here we are. 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,200 But the first podcast, first podcast introduction, you said 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,720 it's our fifth anniversary. So happy four years of doing 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,680 podcasting. And I was like, whoa, wait a 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,720 minute. Let me replay that real quick. 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,160 We are here today celebrating our fifth anniversary of this 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,240 podcast, meaning that we've been podcasting every single week for 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,680 the past four years. Wow. 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,640 And congratulation, Ryan. You just said fifth anniversary 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,680 and then every four years. That's how you turn 5. 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,600 No, like, look, if you podcasted for a year, that's your first 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,280 anniversary. If you podcasted for two years, 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,640 that's your second anniversary. If you podcasted for three 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,160 years, that's your 3rd anniversary. 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,360 It's. All that's the podcast. 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,960 If you podcast 4 years, it's not your 5th anniversary. 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,520 So yeah, that was the was it called Blooper? 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,360 The blooper reel. Yes. 37 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,560 Anyway, so here we are quickly about us. 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,880 So we started the podcast in May of 2020 and. 39 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:20,920 Now it's May of 2024, so we've been. 40 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:24,720 Podcasting for four years. And that would be the. 4th 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280 anniversary. Now we're starting our fifth 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,320 year. There you go. 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,080 Applause, please. It was tough. 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,000 It was so within those last few years of podcasting. 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Ryan, what have you learned of anything? 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,800 Lady is not a math major. Besides the obvious. 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,800 There's a lot of good information in there, like 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,080 anyone that go back and look at other podcasts. 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,640 I think Letty has done this not I don't want to take any credit 50 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,920 for it, but she's found some really good people that can give 51 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:59,440 good advice and and gotten a lot of good information there. 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,960 And there's a lot of things that I learned even surprisingly, I 53 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,600 guess maybe or just unexpectedly I should unexpectedly learned, 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,560 you know, things that wouldn't necessarily make sense, like 55 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,240 doing miles slow makes you faster. 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Things of that nature, yeah. So I feel like the time you've 57 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,040 spent doing the podcast has helped you become more popular 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,800 or get more of a respect out of people, I guess. 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,680 And so you end up getting more guests on and are able to get 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,560 more guests. You've been able to go to like 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,840 the media events at some of these marathons and some running 62 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,640 events where they have a lot of new products. 63 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,760 And all this stuff has been hugely helpful too, because you 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,360 get to see the new stuff that comes out. 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,360 You get to hear some of the new information. 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,200 You talk to some of the elite athletes even. 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,920 So it's it's really cool. That's cool. 68 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,320 And then you need to be able to like take that information and 69 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,080 hopefully provide it in a useful way for people that are just 70 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,440 interested and want to run and enjoy running. 71 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,920 I think that's awesome. Yes, and I'm glad that you ended 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,760 at that. The people that are listening, 73 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,600 we are so super grateful for everybody that tunes into our 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,840 show, whether it's weekly weather, today is your first 75 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,240 time, we really, really appreciate it. 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,760 We obviously wouldn't have the podcast if you guys wouldn't 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,080 TuneIn and spread the message. And we hope that we can always 78 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,200 provide you with, you know, information, great guests on 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,800 nutrition and training, mental stuff. 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,080 The the race recaps that we share. 81 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Hopefully they're not just entertaining, but helpful for 82 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,840 your own races. And then, of course, the 83 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:41,200 inspirational stories that I feel like we don't share enough 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,640 of. But because this is an 85 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,920 anniversary episode, we do have an inspirational story for you 86 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,840 guys today. So it's actually fitting too, 87 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:53,640 because the guest that you actually brought on as a 88 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,240 veteran, right? Yes, Jared Ewing, our guest is a 89 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,240 veteran, and he was super happy when I told him this podcast is 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,920 going to air the first day on Memorial Day. 91 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,800 And yeah, he has a very, very inspirational story. 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,160 Can you give us some history on Memorial Day and what it's 93 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,520 about? Memorial Day is a day to honor 94 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,880 and remember those who died while they were serving in the 95 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,640 US military. It was originally called 96 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,280 actually Decoration Day, and it began after the Civil War with 97 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:27,400 people decorating the graves of the fallen soldier soldiers. 98 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,640 So today, you know, traditions include visiting cemeteries, 99 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,480 holding parades, flying the American flag at half staff 100 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,640 until noon, then raising it to full staff and participating in 101 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,280 barbecues and gatherings. That sounds like you just took 102 00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:41,360 it right off the top of your head. 103 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,600 It was so smooth. I did, and and of course one of 104 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,720 the other ways of celebrating Memorial Days nowadays is for us 105 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,720 running 5K's wearing American flag clothing. 106 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,560 So Lydia, are you doing a 5K? No, I'm not running a 5K. 107 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,480 As you know, I'm not cleared yet, but I'm going to go to a 108 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,720 5K. My friend Diana is running the 109 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:08,840 5K with a stroller and I'm going to create a video titled You Got 110 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:12,520 Beaten by a Stroller for our YouTube channel. 111 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,160 Our YouTube channel is at running podcast, so hopefully 112 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,120 she'll actually beat everybody so I can use that title. 113 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,680 If not, we'll we'll tweak it. Well, she'll still beat a bunch 114 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,200 of people, I'm sure. Yes, she consistently runs five 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,400 KS in the 1819 minutes with a stroller, so it's pretty 116 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,360 amazing. I think that deserves some kind 117 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,720 of light shined on it. So you want to get into our 118 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,200 motivational story of the day? Yes. 119 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 So without any further ado, we're now going to hear from 120 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Jared Ewing. All right, so I'm back on with 121 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,480 Jared Ewing. Jared, thank you so much for 122 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,440 joining me today. Yeah, thank you. 123 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it. 124 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,280 It's good seeing you again, speaking with you. 125 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,840 Yes, absolutely. And just to give our listeners a 126 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:01,920 little bit of a background, I met you at the Boston Marathon. 127 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,080 We had a mutual friend that, well, two mutual mutual friends 128 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,080 that introduced each other. And then we figured out that we 129 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,320 both were on the same podcast, the On the Run podcast as 130 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,640 guests. And so then we talked about your 131 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,320 story a tiny little bit and you let me know that you'd be 132 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,320 absolutely willing to inspire our community as well and Share 133 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,760 your story with us. So I really appreciate that. 134 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Yeah, it was, it kind of happened so quick. 135 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,680 There were just like kind of noticing each other at, at, at 136 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Boston. And I was like, wow. 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,520 And it was that very first day at Boston too. 138 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,160 So what a way to start the Boston weekend, you know, seeing 139 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,120 you and meeting you guys and and yeah, just getting a little bit 140 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,720 to tell you just a little bit of my story at that time. 141 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,400 So, all right, so let's hop right into that. 142 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,240 Your story is super inspirational. 143 00:07:54,680 --> 00:08:00,520 You were exiting a bar and as you exited walking towards your 144 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Uber, you were hit by a drunk driver, landing you in the 145 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,920 hospital and with huge problems in your legs. 146 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,840 Luckily you survived, but perhaps you can take us back to 147 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,680 how this all happened and the moment of your accident. 148 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,120 Sure. So at the time I was like 32 149 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,040 years old. I was, I would say, in the pride 150 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,600 of my life. I had just started running 151 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,080 marathon once. This is 2017. 152 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,800 I ran my first marathon. I got into reading about David 153 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Goggins and, and all everything he's about. 154 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,320 And then the Iron Cowboy that did like 15 iron men, I mean, 50 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,400 iron men for 50 days. So I was like, all right, next 156 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,480 year there's three different marathons in the state of Ohio, 157 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,080 all within four to five weeks. That would be pretty cool if I 158 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,920 could do those. So I trained up for a full year 159 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,360 and I ran. It was the Columbus Marathon, 160 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Air Force Marathon and Akron Marathon all within five weeks. 161 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:02,440 So the, the winter had come and I was still kind of, I just got 162 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,560 to, to swimming and biking. I was going to train myself up 163 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:08,480 to actually do an Ironman. So I was in really good shape at 164 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,840 that point. I was serving in the military as 165 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,440 well, National Guard, Army for full time. 166 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,680 I was living in Columbus. And so I came up to Cleveland 167 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,280 for the, for the weekend because I have friends and family. 168 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,280 That's where I'm from. I'm from Akron, just a little 169 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,400 bit South of Cleveland. And so it was a regular weekend. 170 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,960 I came up the Verizon friends and we all decided to go up to 171 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,400 Cleveland for a friend's birthday. 172 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,880 So there was about seven of us. We Ubered all the way up there. 173 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,760 And so, you know, it was a long night, long night of drinking 174 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,400 and celebrating. And it was the end of the night 175 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,560 is about two, 2:05 in the morning. 176 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:45,200 So it was time to go home. So a friend, you know, ordered 177 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,200 up the Uber ride. So we left the bar thinking, you 178 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,960 know, we're going to go catch the Uber, get all the way back 179 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,960 down to Akron and head home and it'll be all just a another 180 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,960 night. And so whenever I was actually 181 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,600 in the bar took a left. There's a street that's right 182 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,880 out in front of you, but the Ubers can't pick you up there. 183 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,880 It's like a place where only civilians and stuff can walk at. 184 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,320 So we we took a left and we're walking down towards towards the 185 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,720 Uber pickup area, which is like a roundabout and me, me and my 186 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,360 buddies kind of leading the charge. 187 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,280 The rest of the people were kind of like just hanging back. 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,000 I don't know, I just very slowly exiting the bar. 189 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,200 And so as I'm talking to him, he's off to my left. 190 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,400 The the buildings are off to my left as well, the streets off to 191 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,080 my right. And so I'm, I'm looking to the 192 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,680 left. I'm talking with my buddy and 193 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:34,600 out of nowhere, I kind of hear like, you know, the sound of 194 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,720 like screeching tires and it seems like there's a flash of 195 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,200 light just out of nowhere. And so I turn to my right and it 196 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,560 looks like that this car is just coming directly at me. 197 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,880 And so all I can do is just brace myself because I'm like, 198 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,960 OK, like I'm gonna get hit. And so it all happens very 199 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,520 quickly, just out of nowhere, like boom, just happened. 200 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,640 And so I got hit pretty hard. I got thumped. 201 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,360 I hit the ground. And when I'm on the ground at 202 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,680 this point, I'm not exactly sure what happened. 203 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,240 I, I assume the car hit me. And so I'm on the ground. 204 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,880 I'm, I'm trying to get up and I can't, you know, my adrenaline's 205 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,760 going. So, you know, I'm a tough guy. 206 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,120 I'm like, all right, get up, Jared. 207 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,520 I'm on like, whatever. So I try to get up and I can't. 208 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,280 And I thought that was kind of weird. 209 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,600 And so then I started feeling like my leg, you know, my left 210 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,160 leg, just like burning and pulsating. 211 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,080 And I, I looked down and sure enough, my leg was, was pretty 212 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,160 mangled up. It was almost like a, like a, a 213 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,120 steak knife, you know, like flayed me open. 214 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,360 I could see my bone. The, the pant legs were, the 215 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,480 pant legs were all mangled up and bloody. 216 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,880 So it wasn't a pretty sight. You know, I knew then and there 217 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,240 that my life had just changed and I didn't want to freak out 218 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,160 too bad. You know, so with my military 219 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,400 training and everything, I have seen photos, I've gone through 220 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,240 plenty of first aid training, shock training and all of that. 221 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,120 So I knew I didn't, I was going to be bleeding out pretty bad. 222 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,840 So I didn't know what was going to happen. 223 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,360 I didn't want to go into shock. And so I kind of just started 224 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,000 focusing on something like a star of some sort and just 225 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,120 started focusing on my breathing and, and at the same time, you 226 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,920 know, with every pulse of my heart, my leg feels like there's 227 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,960 lightning going through it and it's burning at the same time. 228 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,920 So I was very, at this point, I was sobered up. 229 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,120 I was very conscious. There wasn't a second of it that 230 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,320 I was in and out. So I was very aware of 231 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,480 everything going on. There was people, you know, 232 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,000 obviously the friends and stuff I was with was like kind of 233 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,760 yelling, some were crying and, and we're sitting there and 234 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,000 we're just trying to, you know, figure out what to do. 235 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,720 And so a buddy of mine I had just met that night, another 236 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,120 guy, they kind of rushed over to me and they took their belts off 237 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,840 their off their off their pants. And they were going to make a 238 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,520 tourniquet for me. And so I knew that was like what 239 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,200 was needed because at that time the, the cops weren't quite 240 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,880 there yet. So they took the belts off, they 241 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,680 wrapped it around my leg and they yanked on it. 242 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,080 And it hurt really too bad, as you would assume, but I knew 243 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,920 that's what was needed. So we're sitting there waiting. 244 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,800 And so I told people to go put post over me because me. 245 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,280 And in the meantime, so this is middle of December in Cleveland, 246 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,920 OH. So it's pretty cold. 247 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,680 And of course, you know, I didn't really wear a coat that 248 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:21,600 day because I knew it was going to be in and out of the car, in 249 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,800 and out of the bars. So it was a long sleeve shirt. 250 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,960 But so everybody kind of grabbed their coats and kind of put them 251 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,040 on me because you want to keep yourself warm to keep the blood 252 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,520 kind of circulated in your core. And so I'm sitting there and I'm 253 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,680 waiting and I'm waiting. And there was one guy holding my 254 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,520 head, kind of talking to me. There was another guy holding my 255 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,400 hand. And so we're all just kind of in 256 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,400 this together. Try, you know, trying to get get 257 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,960 me to focus on, on breathing and, you know, keep my mind off 258 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,560 what was, you know, try to keep my mind off what was going on. 259 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:53,760 But, you know, that was hard. But, you know, at at that point, 260 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,720 I wasn't sure if I was going to live or not. 261 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,000 I saw all the blood loss. I knew for sure, at a minimum, I 262 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,560 thought for sure my leg was gone. 263 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:05,080 I thought my life had changed, you know, for the rest of my 264 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,120 life. And so all I kept on thinking 265 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:10,960 was was, you know, so they say your life flashes before your 266 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,720 eyes. But for me, it was just like 267 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,960 jolted with like 100 questions of, you know, am I going to see 268 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,640 my family? Am I going to, you know, see my 269 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,480 God daughters again, you know, with all these things I haven't 270 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,200 done, so I don't know why they I thought of the world majors. 271 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,960 I was like, Oh my, like I just started running like why me? 272 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,320 Why now I'm in the best shape of my life. 273 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,480 I this is what I trained up like to do was like go on and do an 274 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,240 Iron Man. I had career implications. 275 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,880 I was wanting to get done. So all these like things that I 276 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,680 had wanted to get done were just jolting through my mind. 277 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,880 You know, what ifs and, you know, I just ultimately wasn't 278 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,200 sure if I was even going to live. 279 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,080 So I'm sitting there and finally the ambulance shows up. 280 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,960 And so the ambulance comes, picks me up. 281 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,800 That's the only time I really go out of it. 282 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,040 So I blacked out for the ambulance trip. 283 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,680 So they must have shot me up with something good before we 284 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,200 get to the ER. And so when I get into the ER, 285 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,600 that's when I kind of woke up. They were cutting all my clothes 286 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,280 off of me. And so I kind of knew that was 287 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,680 the process of what happens before you go into the OR just 288 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,240 from again, some sort of medical background of in the military. 289 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,880 So I know that I was getting ready to go to war in a sense. 290 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,360 So they're cutting all my clothes off me and then they 291 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,600 start asking me questions like, Hey, where are you from? 292 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,440 What's your name? So they're trying to gain how 293 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,120 conscious I am and I did very well. 294 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,720 I, I would, I would think I was nailing all the questions. 295 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,640 I was pretty proud of myself, you know, asking me people's 296 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,520 phone numbers to call. So I gave them my parents, 297 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,240 'cause, you know, these days I can't even, I can hardly tell 298 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,800 you. It's my, my, anyone's numbers 299 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,200 really. You know, you just click on a 300 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,840 button. So for whatever reason, my mom, 301 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,400 my dad's phone numbers were still stuck in my head. 302 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,480 So I gave them their numbers. And so they're getting ready to 303 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,560 kind of cart me out of the ER and into the OR and they got the 304 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,520 gas mask ready there. The trauma surgeon comes up to 305 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,000 me and she, she explains to me that my legs, she's like, you 306 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,920 know, your leg got pretty mangled up. 307 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,560 It's, it's pretty bad. She told me we're not sure if we 308 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,320 can save it, but we're going to do our best. 309 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,760 And so I pretty much just, you know, respond to her like, Hey, 310 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,320 I just, I just want to stay alive. 311 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,600 Just keep me alive. I'm not, who cares about my leg? 312 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,160 I mean, yes, try to keep it. I said, yeah, let's, let's try 313 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,760 to keep the leg. But I was like, honestly, just 314 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,760 keep me alive. Let's go to war. 315 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,720 Let's do our best to try to save everything we can, but honestly, 316 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,360 just keep me alive. And, you know, let my mom and 317 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,160 dad know that I love them and you know, that they need to get 318 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,960 there, that they need to get there, but don't give them too 319 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,200 many details. So I don't, I didn't want them 320 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,280 to kind of worry too much because it's about a 50 minute 321 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,280 trip to get from where they were to Cleveland. 322 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,280 And so they put the gas mask on me and I was out, I was out 323 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,440 cold. So then next thing you know, I'm 324 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,079 waking up in the ICU And so obviously first thing on my mind 325 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:09,839 is do I have my legs still, you know, and I'm getting pumped 326 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:12,920 with all those sorts of meds. So I'm not exactly sure. 327 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,720 So I'm like, all right, I got to look down. 328 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,800 This is what we got to do. And so I looked down and I kind 329 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,040 of see my my foot underneath the sheets and I kind of like tuggle 330 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,359 tuggle on the on the sheets and I could see my foot was there. 331 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,560 And so I was like, OK, like, like, all right, that's like 332 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,600 step one. We still got my leg there. 333 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:37,120 Then I'm like, OK, what can I can I move it? 334 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:40,920 Like what's going on here? So I see if I can move my toes 335 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,960 and I can move my toes. So that was kind of check too 336 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,880 for me. And really those were like after 337 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,080 those two big things, I was like, OK, I think I'm like, I'm 338 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,880 going to be OK, like, OK, I got got the leg. 339 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,200 I can move my toes. All right, the big checks, but 340 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,480 what I didn't know was like everything in between, pretty 341 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,000 much my ankle to my to my knee was pretty jacked up, right? 342 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,480 I didn't know that because I assumed the whole leg was there. 343 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,960 So I'm kind of in and out of it. I see all my friends that were 344 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,400 there with me that night. Most of them showed up, you 345 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,200 know, in the ICU. They wanted to be there when I 346 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,320 woke up, my mom, my dad was there and a few of my really 347 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,200 close friends that they had gotten a hold of. 348 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,680 And so kind of when the whole room was there, I, I kind of 349 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,600 knew in a sense that I was going to be OK. 350 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,360 I knew, you know, life had changed. 351 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:32,640 I wasn't sure exactly what happened, but I, I felt like in 352 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,600 my heart like everything was going to be OK. 353 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:40,040 And so we waited on the doctor's, but this is, I don't 354 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,800 know how long this was, but eventually the the surgeon came 355 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,840 in, the one that spoke to me right before she put me out and 356 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,320 she had let me know that it wasn't. 357 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,480 So it wasn't the car that directly hit me. 358 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,480 The car hit a concrete Ballard. So like those poles that are on 359 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,000 sidewalks that keep cars off the sidewalks, like they're like 360 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:05,280 every five feet or so. So the car hit one of those and 361 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,000 the concrete all from that exploded off like shrapnel wood 362 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,560 and exploded off pretty much into my leg. 363 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,480 So the car hits that, all the concrete rips off that and 364 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,080 dislodges off into my leg. And so the concrete from that is 365 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,200 about what ripped my leg off. So the car never quite touched 366 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,040 me, but all that concrete is is what pretty much made in my leg, 367 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,360 just jacked it all up. And so then they told me like, 368 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:31,240 hey, we had to remove your calf muscles. 369 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,760 And so that was kind of really hard to like sink in and think 370 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,240 of. I had heard it, but it was like 371 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,520 so surreal. So they told me they had removed 372 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,880 my calf muscles and my Achilles tendon, that they were too 373 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,680 shredded up, they couldn't be saved and they had to be 374 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,080 removed. And then they told me the two 375 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,520 teeny tiny muscles that are back to the soleus were left there, 376 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,440 but they were useless 'cause there was no, again, no Achilles 377 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,960 tendon form and that they were just going to be kept there in 378 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,520 case I kept my leg. So at this point I had heard all 379 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,280 that. So I'm trying to sit there and 380 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,280 think of how to take it all in and. 381 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Again, I kind of, you know, felt kind of daunting and felt as 382 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,800 daunting at first. And and then I'm really good at 383 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,080 kind of quick and turning that switch like, hey, OK, no more 384 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,840 caps. The rest of my life like that is 385 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,080 crappy. That's a long time because I 386 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,800 want to live, you know, a long life. 387 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,440 But I was like, but we can't sit here and dwell on it. 388 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,120 It is what it is. They're gone. 389 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,320 I'm not going to get them back. And so I was like, we got to 390 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,440 move forward. So I quickly just turned, kind 391 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,560 of turned the page in my head. And then I was like, all right, 392 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,160 you know, let's see what we got to do moving forward. 393 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,640 Wow, I mean, I don't even know where to start, first of all, 394 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,280 and we're going to get back to that. 395 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,120 I, I, I think having that attitude, that whole, it is what 396 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:55,600 it is. That's a personality thing. 397 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,120 And like I said, we'll circle back to that, but wow. 398 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,280 So it almost sounds like the car could have killed you but for 399 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,040 the concrete hole which then shattered your leg. 400 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,440 So I guess silver lining, right? Yeah, absolutely. 401 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Yeah. Like it could have been much 402 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,320 worse. I tell people either the car 403 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,040 could have hit me and we don't know what would have came with 404 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,760 that. Like, would it have shattered my 405 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,040 hip? Would it have possibly killed 406 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,240 me? Maybe it misses me and hits 407 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,840 somebody else in the group, which I can't stand the thought 408 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,680 of that because I'm not sure if anyone else would have quite, 409 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,000 you know, got through it like I have or, or thrive through it 410 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,160 like I have. And, you know, just because all 411 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,160 the training and everything and my size and, and how my legs 412 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,480 were built at that time. But yeah, so it was just, you 413 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,760 know, that was just the wrong place at the wrong time. 414 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,920 You know, that's it's, it's, it's so insane to think about 415 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,800 it. You know, it's do if I stayed in 416 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,280 the club one minute later, did it? 417 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,480 Does it happen if I leave one minute sooner or does it happen? 418 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,120 You know it, but you can't think that way because that's not what 419 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:06,840 happened. What happened is the reality of 420 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,200 it. And so you kind of again, move 421 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,720 it. I got to move forward and I 422 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,200 can't sit here and think about what ifs and and any of that so. 423 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,240 Yeah, nothing, nothing would have changed that. 424 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,640 I also think it's super interesting how your military 425 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,720 training kicked in and you are almost coaching everyone on how 426 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,440 to keep you warm and and everything. 427 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,000 Can you talk a little bit about that? 428 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,320 How much of that was pre programmed kind of in your 429 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,040 brain? Yeah, so when when you're in 430 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,600 like the Army or the military, you get trained in first aid 431 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,640 literally like like once a year. And I think even going before I 432 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,320 joined, because I joined the military when I was 25, but when 433 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,640 I was in school at Ohio State, I worked at the rec center and I 434 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,880 had to do first aid training, CPR training there as well. 435 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,040 So I think just doing that over and over for extremely long time 436 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,640 and then and again in the military, getting that training 437 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,360 once a year, you you kind of go through the processes. 438 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:03,440 It almost becomes like a muscle memory, like it's just OK, this 439 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,240 is what you do. And I think because of all 440 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,640 having all that, it kind of helped me out because again, 441 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,360 shock is like one of the major things that happens when 442 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,160 anything traumatic like that happens, you, you lose a crap 443 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,720 ton of blood and then you go unconscious and that can be 444 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,600 really bad for your heart and your mind and, and all of that. 445 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,120 So I knew I wanted to avoid shock. 446 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:30,160 And again, just the the way just I've had that training, it's 447 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,440 just almost like a muscle memory like, all right, this is what we 448 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,040 need to do and so on. Yeah, almost like it. 449 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,240 It gives you the ability that even though you're the one in 450 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,560 the situation to look at what happened subjectively, you know, 451 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,880 as you, as you're also telling, you know, the, the the 452 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,040 physicians to not tell your mom and dad the full story. 453 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800 Normally you wouldn't think that way. 454 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:55,280 Yeah, I basically, you know, knew they were going to be 455 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,680 driving about an hour and I just didn't want them to flip out. 456 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,720 I knew they were already, you know, their mom and dad, they're 457 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,760 already going to be worried getting that call at 3:00 in the 458 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,080 morning. You know, this day, I don't like 459 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,040 to think about that. You know, thinking about my 460 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,480 parents getting that call and then them having to go through 461 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,440 all that. It just doesn't sit right with 462 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,720 me. But yeah, I just didn't want 463 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,040 them. Well, I just want them to get 464 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,640 there and then we could worry about once they get there, them 465 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,880 getting the story and and the full rundown what had happened 466 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,800 to me and all of that. Yeah. 467 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,400 And so, so with that, maybe tell us a little bit about the 468 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,240 prognosis of no calf muscles and no Achilles tendons. 469 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,840 What were you told you would be able to do and not do? 470 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,560 Yeah. So with the, with the prognosis, 471 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,640 you know, of missing calf muscles, my Achilles tendon, we 472 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,760 were trying to really at this point move forward, seeing if I 473 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,920 could even keep my leg because there was a lot of blood. 474 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:55,160 Blood, was it like arteries, veins, you know, all those kind 475 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,000 of got wiped out too, right? So it's like what is going to 476 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,080 come of this leg? And there was a whole huge, 477 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,040 there was a big open wound over my shin where you could see my 478 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,000 bone. And so anything in the hospital 479 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,640 like that, you want to get that covered up and closed because 480 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,960 you don't want to get, you know, everyone knows of MRSA or those, 481 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,400 those flesh eating diseases that can happen very, very easily. 482 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,080 So really the first key was let's get this closed before I 483 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,280 catch any of those. So I had to have three major 484 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,680 surgeries beforehand. And I had one where it was 485 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,760 called a muscle flap where they took a piece of my latissimus 486 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,800 muscle on my side to try to cover up the shin before they 487 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,640 would eventually skin graft over it and close it up. 488 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,680 But unfortunately that surgery didn't work. 489 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,080 And so last ditch effort, we put some, we got some synthetic 490 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,640 material from a company called Poly Novo and they put that in 491 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,160 there. And by the grace of God, it, it, 492 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,840 it worked and started taking to my leg right. 493 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,120 So we finally got that bone covered up. 494 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,960 So at this point, we knew keeping the leg was a 495 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,160 possibility. So now this is kind of where you 496 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,240 get into like the options, right? 497 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,360 So it's all right. Now we have the possibility of 498 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,920 keeping the leg. So now I'm kind of forced into 499 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,840 suspicion in this into this position of do I keep my leg or 500 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,760 do I keep my leg? Do I keep it or not? 501 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,400 And so the day comes where there's like three or four 502 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,560 doctors in the room. One was like a physical therapy 503 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,480 doctor. There was a trauma surgeon, 504 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,640 there was a plastic surgeon, I think there was an orthopedic 505 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,960 surgeon. So a bunch of different surgeons 506 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,680 were in the room with me, along with some of my family members 507 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,400 and some friends. And so we're sitting in there 508 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,800 and they're kind of the, the doctors are picking up my leg 509 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,480 kind of see what it can do and can't do. 510 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,920 And they're kind of just again, trying to just see what the 511 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,800 future of it's going to be. And I, I had a little bit of 512 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,480 movement in my, my toes and stuff still again, because I'm 513 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,040 missing all those casts, I can't really move that ankle, but I 514 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,480 could for so whatever reason, I have full feeling on the bottom 515 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,040 of my foot and I can move my toes pretty good. 516 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,920 Like I can crunch down on my toes almost like hammer curls. 517 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,080 It doesn't do much, but it's something. 518 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,320 And, and so the physical therapy doctor said it was like, OK, 519 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,080 he's like, well, you have a little bit, just a teeny tiny 520 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,160 amount of movement. And there he's like, I think you 521 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,600 could, you could keep the leg. He's like, if you really wanted 522 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,640 to, he's like, but we're just unsure, you know, we don't know 523 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,680 how no one's ever really gone through this exact thing. 524 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,960 Everyone's different. And so we don't know if six 525 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,920 months from now it's going to be worse or if it's going to be 526 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280 better. And orthopaedic surgeons were 527 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,160 pretty much all saying the same thing, like, you know, And so 528 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,640 when we're in that room at this point, we, they all kind of know 529 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,920 that I had ran a like a couple marathons. 530 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:48,120 And I always chuckle because they were like speaking to me as 531 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,440 if I was like a true runner at that time. 532 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,840 Like I still didn't, you know, I, I think we all eventually 533 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,560 come to the point that maybe like we're runners by this 534 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,040 point. I didn't think of it myself that 535 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,520 way. I was just someone that was very 536 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,840 challenge oriented. I had run a couple marathons. 537 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,400 I hated running. And so they were telling me 538 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,520 like, hey, if you keep your leg, you're never going to be running 539 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,800 marathons again. And so I wasn't challenge 540 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,680 oriented at this time. I was very naive. 541 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,480 I'm like, OK, I have a bunch of doctors here. 542 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,720 They know what's going on. They've seen it all. 543 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,800 They're telling me I'm never running marathons again. 544 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,800 So OK, that's probably true. But in my mind I was like, well, 545 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,120 and then I even said it. I was like, well, heck, I was 546 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:32,120 like, I've ran 4 marathons. Some people have never even ran 547 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:33,720 one. I was like, I don't need to run 548 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,480 it anymore. I don't even like running right? 549 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,240 Like, OK, So what? So what? 550 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,920 I oh darn, I don't have to run no more. 551 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,880 OK, cool. Like I was like, OK, and so then 552 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,040 they kind of just like looking at me with the head sideways, 553 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,520 like the puppy and they where they weren't quite getting it. 554 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,480 And I was like, but I was like, OK, so they listen, I'm 555 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,000 listening to them. They're like, but you know, you 556 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,920 can get a prosthetic if you amputate. 557 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,840 And you know, there's plenty of people in the military and, and 558 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,640 Paris sports and you know, you can get right back to being very 559 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,520 active. We know you're active and so you 560 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,200 can get back to running and be an active person. 561 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,040 And I was like, you know, again, like at this point, I had 562 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,720 already like been on social media, I was already starting to 563 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,160 follow military members, athletes with prosthetics 'cause 564 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,840 I was thinking that's where my future was going originally was 565 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,600 I was going to be losing my leg. And so I wanted to immediately 566 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,480 start picking up inspiration and motivation from these people. 567 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,480 So I was like, so they're telling me this and I'm like, 568 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,520 sure, you know, if I get a prosthetic, I probably will. 569 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,920 I'll probably get a blade and I'll probably be right back and 570 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,280 probably I'll be like one of them. 571 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,520 I'll be kicking butt with it. And so we're really at this 572 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,200 point, we weren't sure if I was keeping it or not. 573 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,720 So they, we had all of that talk. 574 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,680 And so Breen, pretty much, you know, I had one long night. 575 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,440 I did a lot of praying on it. I spoke with, you know, my 576 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,240 friends, my family members and really ultimately decision was 577 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,560 always going to be up to me. And so that's what they all kept 578 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,280 saying, like the decision's up to you. 579 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800 And I'm like, well, yes, obviously. 580 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,840 But you know, I had to really think about it. 581 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,440 And I, after a couple of days went by, I, I just spoke to them 582 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,560 and I was saying like, look, let's let's just keep the leg. 583 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,320 Because if I amputate it now, I'd be wondering my whole life, 584 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,000 what if I would have just kept it? 585 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,520 I'm like, if, if I keep my leg and I don't like it, I can 586 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,200 always amputate it in the future. 587 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,240 That that's to this day still still an option. 588 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,640 But you know, I just kept thinking about that. 589 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,760 You know, if I would just amputate immediately, I'd be 590 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,560 wondering my whole life I would have never had given my my leg a 591 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,800 chance. You know, I and I didn't want 592 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,480 that to sit out my heart the rest of my life. 593 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,200 So. What? 594 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,680 What was it that made them give you the choice so early on? 595 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,240 Would there have been any health perks to not try to see what 596 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,640 happens with the leg? Or why was that choice given to 597 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,000 you so early on before really trying to see what's going to 598 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,560 happen with the leg? I think it was them just coming 599 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,320 to their whatever conclusions or whatever they had seen in 600 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,800 general. I think ultimately it was they 601 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,680 honestly thought I was going to be a much active. 602 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,320 They knew for me to be a happy person, I'd have to be an active 603 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,200 person, right? So whether that was with my job 604 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,600 or physically, you know, running or working out and stuff. 605 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,800 So I think that they honestly thought that having that that 606 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,640 prosthetic was going to give me that happier way of life or, 607 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,480 and, or they thought, OK, probably to back their minds, 608 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,440 even if I kept it, I'd probably be needing to amputate it and 609 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,000 stuff like that. They never now listen, they, 610 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,680 they never once said like, Hey, you need to amputate again. 611 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,760 They were leaving everything kind of all options up to me. 612 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,800 But in my mind, it kind of felt like that's kind of what 613 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,400 everybody was thinking. And I've even spoke to family 614 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,520 members and friends and to stay and they're like, I would have 615 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,000 just amputated it, you know, they're like, but you know, 616 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,200 we're not you. And they're just still to this 617 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,520 day simply amazed by me and inspired by me that I kept it 618 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,080 and I was able to do the things that I've been able to do. 619 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,880 But I think honestly, it's just, I don't know if they, they 620 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,960 probably never met someone quite like me, you know. 621 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,080 So that's why I enjoyed speaking with surgeons to this day is 622 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,520 because I think the majority of of their patients, you know, 623 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,880 they come and see and I don't I, you know, I'm not trying to pat 624 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,840 myself too much on the back, but like I'm a, I'm a true go getter 625 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,120 and they probably have people that do minimum and maybe don't 626 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,960 have as good of outcomes. 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That's RUNUR dot run and use 666 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:42,440 code RUNUR under score MRP 2420% off. 667 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,480 So you're talking about a muscle flap not working and other 668 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,920 things than working a little bit. 669 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,840 What kind of time frame are we talking about that you were in 670 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,960 the hospital for all of us? So I was in the hospital, so 671 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,000 Metro Health, which is a trauma hospital in Cleveland, one of 672 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,120 the best. I'm blessed to have been taken 673 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,000 there. I was there for six weeks. 674 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,000 So the worst cabin fever in the world, you know, not being able 675 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,160 to really get out of my bed. And again, being an active 676 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,560 person, that took a toll on my mind. 677 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,080 And, and so I was in there for six weeks. 678 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,440 And so then eventually, you know, insurance caught up was 679 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,120 like we need to get them moved because and whatever the 680 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,640 paperwork was saying, I guess it I was doing doing good at least, 681 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:34,800 you know, because I needed moved on to a rehabilitation place. 682 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,200 So after there they moved me to like a nursing home, right. 683 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,280 I had my slew of nursing homes that I could go to and what I 684 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,920 mean, it's like a nursing home slash rehabilitation places. 685 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,040 So not quite a like it wasn't they weren't like they couldn't 686 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,160 Take Me Home yet and by couldn't stay in the hospital yet. 687 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,400 So I needed like a middle ground and so I had plenty of them. 688 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,080 I wanted to be near my hometown, not in Columbus quite yet. 689 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,600 Again, that's where I was working at, but up near Akron, 690 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,480 that's where I'm I was born and raised. 691 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,800 I have lots of friends still there. 692 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,600 So I was like, let's get me in Akron somewhere. 693 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,000 So it's a little bit South of Cleveland. 694 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,400 And so I picked a nursing home and my dad used to work there a 695 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,600 long time ago. So we kind of knew it was where 696 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,840 it was at in location to everybody else that could come 697 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,920 visit me. And yeah, so the majority, I was 698 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,720 there for four weeks. Now the majority of the patients 699 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:30,000 there, you know, are probably 70s up because it's a true 700 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,960 nursing home. But I was able to, I was there 701 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,480 for four weeks. And, you know, that was a great 702 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,720 experience. But I did a lot, I did physical 703 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:41,880 therapy and occupational therapy every day when I was there. 704 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,440 And then I still needed, I still needed one more major surgery. 705 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,240 I still had that wound in my over my shin that was slowly but 706 00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:54,000 surely healing up. And I had daily, you know, skin 707 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,840 washes and they had to re bandage me every day as I had a 708 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,440 huge skin graft going on where my leg kind of looked like a 709 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,560 Gucci bag from the skin graft that they took from the side of 710 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,480 my legs. So that needed lotion every day. 711 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,640 So I still needed like daily care from nurses that I couldn't 712 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,480 get at home. So I needed to be somewhere. 713 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,080 And so that was like the middle ground. 714 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,520 I was there for four weeks and then after I was, I moved out of 715 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:24,360 there, I still had one more major surgery to go and I didn't 716 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,480 want to go back to Columbus because it was two hours from 717 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,440 Cleveland. Well, 2 1/2 hours from Cleveland 718 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,200 and I was still seeing my surgeon weekly at this point up 719 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,640 in Cleveland. I had to go to Cleveland once a 720 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,040 week to see him make sure everything's going good so I 721 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,160 could keep an eye on my leg and keep me progressing. 722 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,200 And so I was like, all right, where do we go? 723 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,720 Well, I had friends, luckily that I'm blessed enough that 724 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,640 they let me live in their one of their extra living room. 725 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,840 So they had like a huge day room and a living room. 726 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,120 And most of the time they live they're in a day room. 727 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,880 So the living room was kind of open. 728 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,520 So they moved the bed in there for me and I was able to stay 729 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,880 with them And I had my two goddaughters there, which was 730 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,000 just a joy. At the time, they were like four 731 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,080 and six years old. So it was just like awesome 732 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,000 having Uncle Jared there. And so, you know, just full, 733 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,920 full of good energy and to keep my mind off everything. 734 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,640 And so, you know, it was awesome being there. 735 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:19,440 I was there for like 8 weeks. So yeah, six weeks in the in the 736 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,200 major hospital, 4 weeks in the nursing home and then eight 737 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,240 weeks with my friends at at their house all. 738 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,240 Right. So we're talking 18 weeks, 739 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:31,720 that's 4 1/2 month into this. And when we're talking about you 740 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,640 leaving one for the other and so on, how are you moving? 741 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,040 Are you in a wheelchair at that point? 742 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,840 Are you in crutches or what's going on with the leg? 743 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,840 So it's slowly but surely when I left the the hospital, the main 744 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,000 hospital, I still had to be transported in a like a 745 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,560 wheelchair. And so I was still in a 746 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,280 wheelchair up to the nursing home. 747 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,480 And then when I was in the nursing home is when I finally 748 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,240 was able to start using a Walker. 749 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,880 Once I got through enough physical therapy and stuff there 750 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,240 up on my feet enough started using a Walker. 751 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,080 I never used crutches. I was a big fan of that. 752 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,520 Never felt good on my armpits. And with me needing to still put 753 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,680 some weight bearing on my leg, the Walker was a better option 754 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,120 for me. And so when I was at the nursing 755 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,280 home, I used a Walker or I was in the wheelchair most of the 756 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,600 time the nurses wanted me in that wheelchair. 757 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,080 They didn't, you know, they didn't want me falling over or 758 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,200 anything like that with the Walker. 759 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,520 So they'd always like be checking in on me, making sure I 760 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,000 wasn't because I'm stubborn and I wanted to recover faster. 761 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,720 So I would try to get up on that Walker as much as I could 762 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,600 without hurting myself. But when I got sent to my, when 763 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,200 I moved in with my friends at their place, at this point, I 764 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,080 was strictly using the Walker slowly but surely. 765 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,040 And so how I progressed so quickly was that, you know, they 766 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,040 had an at home physical therapist come to see me there 767 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,920 once he gave me some exercises to do. 768 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,640 And I've always known that whenever you're given exercises 769 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,600 from physical therapist, that's like the minimum you need to be 770 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,480 doing if you want to recover faster. 771 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,600 You got to move more, you got to do, you got to go over and 772 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,040 beyond without. Hurting yourself, you know, I 773 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,360 know my body. And so I knew there was a YMCA 774 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,920 super close to my friend's house and I was like, I just need to 775 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,560 get that YMCA. And so at this point, I, I kind 776 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,680 of win myself off all the meds enough to where I actually, I 777 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,040 could be healthy driving sober, driving to the Y. 778 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,080 And so I started like two days later. 779 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,280 So it wasn't long. I, I got myself walked, I used 780 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,840 the Walker and it's like snow. It's like a like 10 inches deep 781 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,680 in, in Ohio at this point in the middle of the winter time and 782 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,480 just got to my car, took my Walker with me and I got to the 783 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,760 Y and I used the Walker and I was used, you know, I was moving 784 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,200 slowly, very slowly but surely, you know, but I got to the Y 785 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,200 every day and that's how I progressed so quickly was 786 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,160 getting to the Y and just doing different things and, and just 787 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,680 getting stronger each day. You know, I got there, I was 788 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,400 getting all sorts of crazy looks because my leg was still like 789 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,000 bandaged up. So I'm still waiting on that 790 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,280 last surgery. But I always thought, you know, 791 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,760 hey, like my left leg's bad, but I still haven't the right leg. 792 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,080 I still have my other limbs. My whole upper body needs moved. 793 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,920 And so I'm like, you can still move everything else. 794 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,520 So at a minimum, I was going over there. 795 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,280 I was like, I'm going to hit all the machines just every day, 796 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,560 rotate them through, get my body moving and slowly but surely, 797 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,040 like maybe I'll get myself on onto the bike or onto onto the 798 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,120 stair stepper or onto the treadmill. 799 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,400 And so I took myself there every day without too much too big of 800 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,080 goals on my mind, except just to get stronger each day and then 801 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,920 get there every day and show up. And every day that I got there, 802 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,200 I just do a little bit more, a little bit more than the day 803 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,200 before where, you know, that shit, that saying that get 804 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,000 stronger each day. And so I started using the bike 805 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,640 one day. And then after that I was like, 806 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,360 Hey, let's get on that. Let's get on that treadmill. 807 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,080 Because again, I can, if I can use a Walker, I can use the 808 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,200 treadmill at least to hold myself up. 809 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,120 And so, you know, the first day on the treadmill was there like, 810 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,000 Hey, let's, let's walk a quarter mile. 811 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:16,360 And so that's all it was. And I got off and I'm very good 812 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,000 at kind of like not doing too much and just doing enough and 813 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,240 then getting off, you know, I knew I had worked out myself 814 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:25,880 enough. And so each day I just try to 815 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,960 get a little bit farther and a little bit farther on that 816 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,880 treadmill. So while you were doing that, 817 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,960 tell us a little bit about how or how your body works well 818 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,120 without having the calf muscle and Achilles tendon. 819 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,400 Yeah. So with my body not really 820 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,600 having those calf muscles or Achilles tendon, my ankle 821 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,520 doesn't have much room for movement in there. 822 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,760 I can, I can barely movement move it because that's kind of 823 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,680 what you need to, to move that ankle around. 824 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,480 So the ankle is pretty stiff because I can't move it that 825 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,320 much. But really, you know, I still 826 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,560 have quads, I still have hamstrings and, and everything 827 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,440 else that kind of you need to move to move your leg up and 828 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,480 down or forward or backwards. And so a lot of people are very 829 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,760 intrigued on, you know, how I'm still able to run and 830 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,360 everything. But really just because of that, 831 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,720 you know, so those calf muscles that move your ankle and 832 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,640 everything really that helps propel you forward. 833 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,640 So it will help you jump, it'll help move you faster. 834 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,560 You can run faster with them, but you don't necessarily need 835 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,560 those to walk or to jog. As long as you can pick up that 836 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,880 leg and put it down, you can still move. 837 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,640 It's just in the meantime, you know, I knew that I had to work 838 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,400 out my hips. I know your hips are, are huge 839 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,320 and, and with running and everything else. 840 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,760 So I was doing kind of everything that I needed to to, 841 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,160 to re the rehab myself, all my, you know, all all those other 842 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,320 muscles in my leg, my hip muscles and all everything else 843 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,040 like that. I was making sure I was getting 844 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,440 done that I was going to need. Because people have told me 845 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,120 like, Hey, you're going to have hip issues in the future if you 846 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,480 try to walk or jog because you're one side is going to try 847 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,880 to make up for the other one. And you know, I get this. 848 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,160 I don't think they were blowing smoke. 849 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,960 Like, yeah, that, that makes a lot of sense. 850 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,840 I believe that. So hey, I'm going to try to 851 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,320 avoid that. So I'm just going to work out my 852 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,800 hips every day. I'm going to make sure I do do 853 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,120 what I need to do to get all everything else functioning 854 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,880 properly in the right way to where now when I jog or 855 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,000 anything, I kind of call that that leg like almost like a 856 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,680 human prosthetic because I literally just, I'm picking it 857 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,040 up and putting it down. But I've just been able to jog 858 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160 so much and, and everything like that, that you can't really tell 859 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,280 when you're watching me at this point. 860 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,080 But really, yeah, it's kind of it's, it's it's very surreal 861 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,560 because when I'm, when I'm running, I can't really feel 862 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,320 that leg. Luckily, I still have the 863 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,000 feeling on the bottom of my foot. 864 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:52,560 So I can feel my foot hitting the ground, but I can't feel a 865 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,680 lot of the, you know, pains or aches like in the middle of that 866 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,080 leg. That's pretty much the only time 867 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,640 that I feel free is when I'm moving. 868 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,280 Wow. I mean, that's pretty amazing 869 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,640 because when I met you, I didn't I mean, it's something that we 870 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,560 don't even notice. If you don't know you, you don't 871 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,080 walk different, you don't run different. 872 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,600 I've seen your videos and I'm, you know, I was curious. 873 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,880 I'm, I'm like, what's his story? What's going on here? 874 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,440 Because it doesn't look like there is anything. 875 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,000 And then I learned about your story. 876 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,200 So, so the rehabilitation seems to have gone really amazing. 877 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,400 But to help people that are currently in situations that 878 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,040 they don't, didn't ever ask to be. 879 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,680 And tell us about some dark moments and how you were able to 880 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,240 overcome them. Did you have any kind of 881 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:35,760 drawbacks? Obviously. 882 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:42,280 Yeah, so just over time, I've become really good at allowing 883 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,520 myself to feel like, you know, the bad feelings or negative 884 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,560 feelings, but I try not to I, I know not to stay, stay around in 885 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,400 them. So I don't know if it's a gift 886 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,440 from above. I've I've did plenty of reading. 887 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,360 You know, I'm AI love stoicism. I love just listen to people 888 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,080 with wisdom. And so I do take a lot of these 889 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,360 quotes. That's why I post a lot of 890 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,320 quotes and, you know, I, I kind of take them for their words. 891 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,320 If it's like, hey, like be uncomfortable being, you know, 892 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,720 be comfortable being uncomfortable or it's like you 893 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:18,000 can't focus on things you can't change, but things like that. 894 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,080 So I've kind of always been really good at putting those to 895 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,240 use, believing them and, and using them to my, to my favor. 896 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,160 But you know, when I would get in, you know, hard times, I 897 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,520 would kind of just quickly, just like, all right, we felt that 898 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,160 again, but there's nothing you can do about it. 899 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,080 So let's move forward and let's focus on things you can change, 900 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,280 right? I mean, it's like every day with 901 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,680 my leg. It's very daunting. 902 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,120 You know, it isn't all sunshines and rainbows. 903 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,440 I am able to do all of this, but I still like right now, I can 904 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,440 feel the bottom of my leg like twitching, you know, and they 905 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,720 tell me if it's annoying in any way, that's a form of pain, but 906 00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:00,200 I know I can't change that. This leg's going to twitch like 907 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,960 24/7. I, I can't change it. 908 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,960 So why would I sit there and dwell on it, right? 909 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,760 So let's focus on the things I can change or work on. 910 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,440 And that's like my attitude and that's the, you know, my efforts 911 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,320 and my energy. As I always say, you know, when 912 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,720 you, if you have to, you know, learning about the past and, and 913 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,160 knowing the past is good, but you don't want to sit there and 914 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,920 dwell on it. You, you got to move forward and 915 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,480 again, just focusing on the things you can change, but you 916 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,440 know, things like that are going to happen and you just got to 917 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,240 keep on moving forward. Just like you know in a 918 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:38,160 marathon, you know things are going to come up, Aches, pains 919 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,720 and bad feelings, but to get to the finish line you got to 920 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:43,640 continue moving forward. I love this. 921 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,360 I love your perspective and you know, along with that, can you 922 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,240 talk about the running community and how supportive they have 923 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:54,160 been inclusive? Because I know that early on 924 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,400 when you first had your accident, you didn't really 925 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,040 identify as a runner. But now Fast forward, you had an 926 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,880 accident. You are different, but you 927 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,680 definitely, you know, define yourself as a runner now. 928 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:09,200 Yeah, Well, let's I'd say just in general, you know, every day 929 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,040 throughout my hospital stay, whether it was the six weeks in 930 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,560 the hospital, the four weeks in the in the nursing home, I had 931 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,400 visitors every day. So I was extremely blessed to 932 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,440 have people there for the most part. 933 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,240 I can be introverted, you know, you wouldn't guess that now, but 934 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:30,400 so people would come and like, well, I don't know what to talk 935 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,920 about. And I always told people, you 936 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,280 know, I don't really, we don't have to have conversations as 937 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,960 long as you show up and we just sit there and watch TV or we sit 938 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,160 there and just look out the, the, you know, the window. 939 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,480 And that just showing up for me is huge. 940 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,800 And so just having somebody there next to me the entire time 941 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,120 was an absolutely blessing. Every day. 942 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,400 I mean, there's maybe only a handful of days that I didn't 943 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,200 have, but at least my, my dad was there or my mom was there as 944 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,440 well. So I literally had somebody 945 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,280 there with me every day. And that's just phenomenal. 946 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,040 You know, I wasn't just sitting there by myself. 947 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,040 You know, I had somebody to watch TV with someone to, you 948 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,840 know, shoot the breeze with, but, and that was huge, right? 949 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,360 So I, I think support's awesome. I, I got online every day, you 950 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,960 know, online could be good. And I had tons of people reach 951 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,440 out to me. I mean, tons of people that I 952 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,720 hadn't seen or spoke to in years that reached out to me and you 953 00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:30,960 know, that just means the absolute world to me was knowing 954 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,480 that. And so I just knew that I had so 955 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,280 many people that had my back, even when I didn't think about 956 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640 it. You know that, you know, to this 957 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,440 day, I save a lot. I've saved a lot of those 958 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,440 messages. I've seen what people post when 959 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,120 you see the memories on Facebook, I saw what people had 960 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,880 wrote to me. And it's just like, it's the the 961 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,480 daily, you know, humbled and, and reminder of that, like 962 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,640 people are are with me behind me and got my back, even when I 963 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,440 don't think so. And so that was awesome. 964 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,520 And then moving forward, you know, into getting into this 965 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,000 running community thing, it's it's the same way. 966 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,640 It's, you know, a lot of these running groups, you know, we all 967 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,800 kind of are just show up every day. 968 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,440 And whether it's one person or if it's twenty people there, you 969 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,960 know, there's usually somebody always there and it's someone to 970 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,640 talk to. Even if you don't know, even if 971 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,680 you don't talk to them, you just run with them, you know, share 972 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,720 some miles with them. That's, that's huge. 973 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:24,760 And I think that's the the greatest part of the running 974 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,520 community is there's usually someone's there that shows up. 975 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,480 And I also like to think in general, everybody's got a story 976 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,920 of some sort. That's why I like sharing mine 977 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,800 because it kind of brings out other people to share their 978 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,800 stories. And I think that that only helps 979 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,000 you therapeutically, mentally and physically to kind of share 980 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,920 your stories. And once you you start sharing 981 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,600 stories, you it kind of brings the world in. 982 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,600 It's like, OK, we're all just, you know, we all learned the 983 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,280 similar lessons and just in different ways. 984 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:58,800 And we all are going in through this crazy little thing called 985 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,760 life. And it's, you know, it's not 986 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,960 easy. Life's not fair, life's not 987 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,880 easy. And you know it, it does take a 988 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,160 community and, and we all are just trying to do our best with 989 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,280 what we have. And I think, you know, the more 990 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,480 people that show up and the more that you can relate with people, 991 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,000 the better that you're going to be in this. 992 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,800 Again, the running community is awesome. 993 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,440 I mean, just over time and time, it's just the more people I 994 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,800 meet, the more people that you know, you become friends with. 995 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,640 And there's a spread all out now. 996 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,280 So now with me trying to run like the 50 states or run the 997 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,320 world majors. I, I'm, I'm starting to get know 998 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,040 more people all across, all across the, the world and the 999 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,960 States and it just makes it that much better. 1000 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,160 You know, now every, every city I go to, or not every city, but 1001 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,440 every state or something, for the most part, I know somebody. 1002 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,600 And so now I try to go hang out with them or at least try to, 1003 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:52,840 you know, if I can't stay with them or something, you know, or 1004 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:58,520 have a a coffee or lunch. But it's been a true just, it's 1005 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,400 just a a cycle of like you giving some and it returned it 1006 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,640 to you, you know, a full like cycle of good karma, I swear. 1007 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,800 I love this, I love your story and I appreciate you sharing it 1008 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,680 with us. And do you have any marathons 1009 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,560 coming up this year? Yeah, so I have San Diego that's 1010 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,400 coming up in two weeks from now. I'm running ground malls, which 1011 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,840 is at the end of June. And then in July I'm running 1012 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,000 Jack and Jill's out in the state of Washington. 1013 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,280 It's all downhill, so that should be fun. 1014 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,280 I'm running with a buddy for his first marathon, so we'll see how 1015 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,320 how that goes. And then August, I'm kind of 1016 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,920 taking off ish. It's my birthday in there 1017 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,040 somewhere, but I, I usually do something so I, I don't know 1018 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,280 what I'm gonna do yet. There's a, a 24 hour like a, a 1019 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,360 last, but it's called the last Buckeye standing. 1020 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,080 I might do that where you run a 4 hour, not 4 hour, a 4.187 loop 1021 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,400 every hour. I'd like to see how far I can go 1022 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,040 there. But then moving forward, the 1023 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,880 fall is extremely busy. I got the Marine Corps Marathon, 1024 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,400 I have Chicago, I have New York City, NY City's gonna finish off 1025 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,080 my world majors. And then I signed up for the JFK 1026 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,320 50 Miller. So that'll be my farthest run. 1027 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,320 So I'm looking forward to that. And then I'm running Kiawah 1028 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,200 Island in in December, so quite a few. 1029 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,400 So it'll be a total of like 15 marathons this year with a 1030 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,600 couple ultras sprinkled in there. 1031 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,760 But yeah, I always tell people I like to stay curious, man. 1032 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,240 I just stay curious on, on now. Like, what? 1033 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,120 What I can do, what, what, what this leg can do. 1034 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,400 I always say, you know, what can I get this leg to do now? 1035 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,560 How fast can I get it to go? How far can I get it to go? 1036 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,840 And, you know, there's a lot of successful people in the world 1037 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,680 that always say, you know, stay curious, push the limits. 1038 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,560 And I've really taken that to heart. 1039 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,440 And now I kind of just been spreading that word to people. 1040 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,480 It's just to always stay curious, you know, and always 1041 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,560 start now, you know, people are like, I don't want to sign up 1042 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,680 for 100 mile or I don't know if I can finish. 1043 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,320 Well, in my mind, I'm like, that is the reason to start. 1044 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,000 That's the reason to do it because it's not about 1045 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,400 necessarily finishing that 100 mile or if you get to like 51 1046 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,360 and you and you just stop. OK, well, that that's awesome. 1047 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,920 That's probably farther than you've gone before and you can 1048 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,880 find out, you know that OK, we can get back there. 1049 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,720 Let's see if we can go 52 miles. You know, I know that sounds 1050 00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:27,960 dumb, but that, that that's the way my mind works. 1051 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,680 Let's constantly just try to go farther and farther. 1052 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,040 And just because you don't finish doesn't mean it's a fail. 1053 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,520 It's only a fail if you quit, right? 1054 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,160 So, you know, I'm in that state of mind now where it's just 1055 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,360 constantly pushing me and, and, and, and see how fast I can go 1056 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,040 too, right? Because they told me I was never 1057 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,720 going to run marathons again. So just completing one was 1058 00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:47,240 awesome. But then I was like, well, let's 1059 00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:51,120 see how many we can do. And now I can, I can, I can run 1060 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,480 a 325 marathon. And so it's just amazing to me 1061 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,800 that somebody like myself that's kind of missing some vital parts 1062 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,600 in my leg that was told that now I'm running 325. 1063 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,520 So now it's like, can I run A320? 1064 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,400 Well, I don't know, but we're going to find out if I can, you 1065 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,320 know, and I'm just going to keep going after it. 1066 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,680 And I feel like that's just the way, you know, people should be 1067 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,080 attacking life, not even just running, but about their careers 1068 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,040 or relationships, but and everything. 1069 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,080 I love this and all this coming from a person that never called 1070 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,120 himself a runner. Jared, thank you so much for 1071 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,360 coming and speaking with us. We will link your Instagram 1072 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,760 profile in our show notes so that way people that are curious 1073 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,360 about you are able to see you there. 1074 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:35,600 And yeah, thank you so much. We really appreciate it. 1075 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,240 Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. 1076 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:40,400 I really appreciate it. Again, it was it was, it was 1077 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,600 great getting to meet you at Boston and speaking to you. 1078 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,280 And then, yeah, I'm just so honored that you have me on and 1079 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,840 allowing me to share my story. It's just a true blessing in 1080 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,960 general, you know, that I can just able to do things like this 1081 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,240 now, you know, who would have thought? 1082 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,920 You're such an inspiration, just with everything you've done, 1083 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,720 it's it's truly amazing. And we wish you the best luck 1084 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:05,760 going forward. And you know, we know. 1085 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,360 You see, we'll see you out there. 1086 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,760 Yeah, thank you so much. I'm humbled and and honored. 1087 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,720 Thank you, Jarrett, for coming on to our podcast. 1088 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:20,960 It was very, very kind of you to come on and Share your story and 1089 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,400 super inspirational. Yeah, I think it's something 1090 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,040 that people can appreciate is just having the opportunities 1091 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,880 that they have and enjoying their life the way it is. 1092 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,560 And, you know, these stories, I think are really helpful to 1093 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,680 maintain that. Yes, keep it in perspective, 1094 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,000 deal with the cards you're dealt. 1095 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,760 And I guess with that, Ryan, we're not going to walk over and 1096 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,320 start eating our five year anniversary cake for the 1097 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,800 podcast. Happy 4 years. 1098 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,560 Until next year. Have a good week running. 1099 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,120 Thanks for tuning in. 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