1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 You're listening to episode 182 of the Marathon Running Podcast. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,800 In this episode, we're going to do a recap of the 2023 New York 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:19,280 City Marathon. This is the Marathon Running 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,880 podcast by Letty and Ryan from We Got The Runs. 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,160 Join us in our running community for weekly content that is 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,960 motivational, educational and inspirational and that the 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Marathon Running podcast take you from the starting line to 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:41,600 the finish line and beyond. Hey runners, and welcome to the 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,560 Ultimate Episode, the episode of the New York City Marathon 2023. 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,920 And this is our race recap. If you are a long time listener, 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,320 we're glad you're back. And if you're new, hello, my 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,960 name is Letty. My name is Ryan and we are the 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,880 Marathon Running podcast and we hope that you give us a chance 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,840 to make your running life a little bit better. 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,760 And unlike this episode where I don't know what's going to 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,800 happen, we usually have a fair amount of stuff that is of value 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,320 for you guys. We interview experts on 18 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:13,320 nutrition training, prehab rehab, inspirational stories, 19 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:15,880 but here we are now and we are doing a race recap. 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,280 Your favorite type of podcast it is. 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,120 It truly is. So you separated this. 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,520 And the three parts. One is the traditional race 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,880 recap that you do, but you're also going to do an interview 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,360 with the a Chief Medical Officer at the marathon and you're going 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,360 to give some tips after you've been to it, because before you 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,880 gave tips but you hadn't been there yet. 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,440 So now you're going to modify those a bit. 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Yes, that's right. And I think that's how we're 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,080 going to structure it. All right. 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,240 So before we get started with the race recap, a little 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,000 disclaimer. This is my real experience and I 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,120 will not try to sound negative in it. 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Unfortunately I had some stuff that went sideways during the 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,960 race race and I'm usually 1/2 cup of full type of person, but 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,160 happens literally. And here we are, still alive, 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,920 still running, and I've always wanted to use the sensor clip 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,040 that I'm putting in. Ryan, I know you're looking at 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,840 me because we never curse on our recordings. 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,680 All right. So let's get into the recap. 40 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:14,720 So for the race recap, you want to go through your travel to New 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,120 York? Yeah, So I left Fort Myers on 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Thursday morning, arrived in New York on Thursday during at noon 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,880 on Thursday, took an Uber to the Upper East Side, which is where 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,360 I was staying. And for anyone that doesn't 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 know, just picture Central Park in the middle. 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,120 Upper East Side is the park that's east of Central Park. 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,760 That's where I stayed. I was staying with a friend that 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,520 I'd never met in person, but I've known her for a while from 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,480 the Speed Writers Group, our Facebook group. 50 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Her name is Sarah. Hello, Sarah, in case you're 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,240 listening. And that was that. 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,640 So that was travel arrival, and I got there early enough that it 53 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,760 was still daylight out. Wanted to go to the Expo, So 54 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Sarah decided to come with me. We walked through Central Park 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,080 down to the Expo, which is South of Central Park or I guess 56 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Southwest, and it was at the Javits Center. 57 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,960 So the total distance was probably, I don't know, 3 to 5 58 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,800 miles. And we decided to walk there 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,800 because it was still far enough from the marathon to to be using 60 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,680 the legs, you know, instead of running for me. 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,360 You still had enough days to recover from your walk, huh? 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,840 Exactly. So how was the Expo? 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,360 The Expo was good. Comfortable to the Expo in 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,160 Chicago again, I'm not big on buying the race swag, so that 65 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,560 was a big saviour, even though they didn't have a lot of cute 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,800 stuff this time. But what am I going to wear a 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,240 jacket to, right? We live in Florida and but there 68 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,880 was a lot of freebies. There was a lot of companies 69 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,720 handing out gels and Gatorade and shirts and all sorts of 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,040 stuff, probably more so than in Chicago. 71 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,840 And as usual at the Expo I ran into people I know from LA, so 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,480 that was kind of fun. So it was a good Expo overall. 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,160 I was a good Expo overall, and I'll tell you about it again 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,080 because we actually visited it twice. 75 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,800 But for Thursday we decided to walk back, headed through Times 76 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Square to the Ritz Carlton where my friend Min was staying. 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,080 He is someone I know from the LA Roadrunners. 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,399 He's a three hour pacer, super nice, and travels to a lot of 79 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:18,800 the same marathons I traveled to. 80 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,720 So we've built a friendship over the years that was fun and then 81 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,760 headed back to go to sleep because Friday morning early 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,160 there was a shake out at Tracksmith in Brooklyn. 83 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:31,600 So this time we actually went on the subway. 84 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,480 It's pretty easy. You can navigate it using your 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,600 phone using Apple Pay that was all smooth. 86 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Went to Tracksmith, Met Minnigan and a lot of his friends that I 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,960 also know from other races, whom we then went to Times Square 88 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 with to check it out and then back to the Expo. 89 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:51,920 So First off, subways, you've been on the subways I think 90 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,480 before with us, right? But how do they compare to the 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,320 public transportation in Germany or other places? 92 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,840 A lot more dirty, Ryan, unfortunately, and I didn't want 93 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:04,040 to say it and see it, but. Yeah, it's really convenient. 94 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,920 There's lots of places to go around, but that's the way I 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,480 felt too. I lived in New York for a while, 96 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,240 but it's just everything's really dirty. 97 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,520 But it's very convenient and there's very easy to get around. 98 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,080 And you can also take a lot of Uber set taxis or other things. 99 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,520 But so you. How'd you What'd you think about 100 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,040 Times Square? Times Square was great. 101 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,840 It was very bright. All the lights. 102 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,320 I've been there with you and the kids last year, and that was a 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,440 lot of fun. But again, you know, it's kind 104 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,920 of that silver lining of you're in New York and you want to live 105 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,840 this experience and have it be great. 106 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:35,920 And we were taking pictures. Suddenly Minnie and Mickey Mouse 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,240 and Super Mario and Luigi showed up and photobombed our pictures, 108 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,840 and they asked us if we wanted to have them take pictures using 109 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,360 our camera. We declined. 110 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,680 We were fine managing it. But then the pimp of them, or 111 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,680 the organizer, I don't know what to call him, Luigi's and Mario's 112 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,320 pimp came and he gave us trouble because he was like, oh, you 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,160 need to tip us. And we were like, no, we didn't 114 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,480 ask you to do anything and you actually kind of ruined our 115 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,560 pictures. It was a little bit annoying, 116 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,800 but I guess that just comes with the territory. 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,800 You have a huge city and so many people. 118 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Yeah, sometimes that can ruin the experience. 119 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,640 And but anyway. So what's what's next? 120 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,640 So you like the Expo so much you went twice, you know, I guess I 121 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,080 did. And we took a lot more pictures 122 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,280 this time and looked around a bit more. 123 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:26,800 I made some connections. I found some people that are 124 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,360 going to be at the same event that I'm going to be at in 125 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,400 November, which is the running industry event. 126 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,440 So I did a lot of talking, chatting, build up an appetite. 127 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,680 So we went to an area close to the Expo called the Hudson Yard 128 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,800 Shops, and we ate at I think a place called Quincy Arts. 129 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,880 I had the Rigatoni and we also shared some oysters. 130 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,720 Oysters. Yes, oysters. 131 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Failed to mention that to me earlier. 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,120 That'll come into play later in the conversation. 133 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,280 Okay. And so, so one of their 134 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:00,240 significant things happened before the marathon. 135 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,520 So after that we all went out separate ways. 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,200 I had actually stayed in the area because I was attending the 137 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Alley on the Run live show, which everyone knows Alley on 138 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,120 the Run. She is a podcaster that I also 139 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,920 listened to sometimes and that was sponsored by New Balance. 140 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,080 It was a great event and I left that place and stumbled onto a 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,400 thrift store. I saw a robe that looked super 142 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,520 cozy and the reason I hadn't bought a robe prior to 143 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,640 travelling was because of luggage restrictions. 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,400 So I bought that robe and carried it with me to the next 145 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,520 meet up, which was something I had organized at Boca di Baco. 146 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,240 And sorry for mispronouncing that I'm not Italian, but that's 147 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,360 where I met my fellow Speed Straters. 148 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,400 We have the Speed Straters Facebook group and a lot of us 149 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,640 were running this event and decided to meet up. 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,120 So just to give a little shout out, there was Esther from 151 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,160 Canada, and there's Katarina and Yanis from Sweden who we 152 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,880 previously met at the Stockholm Marathon. 153 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,520 And then Sandrine was there. Also, Sandrine is my local 154 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,600 neighbor. She actually lives .1 miles from 155 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,040 my house and she's magically going to all these different 156 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,360 races I'm going to too. So I'm going to see a lot more 157 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,560 of her, I guess in the near future in different areas of the 158 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,600 world. So that was kind of cool. 159 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:24,040 And then Himanju was there, who had met in 2021 in Berlin, who's 160 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,720 also parts of the speech traders. 161 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Sarah was there, who was my roommate for the New York City 162 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Marathon, as I mentioned. And what'd you eat? 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,960 I I had a Caesar salad, Ryan. And I guess we're going to be 164 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,799 talking about the Caesar salad for a while. 165 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:39,039 But I asked him to not give me the anchovies. 166 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:42,000 So they asked me, do you want us to make you a dressing? 167 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,400 And I said yes. And that was that was the end of 168 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,840 my weekend. This is actually in addition to 169 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,160 being a race recap, it's also a mystery that needs to be solved. 170 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,840 So there's clues along the way. So go on. 171 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,400 So what happened next in terms of your time before your 172 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,280 marathon before your race? Yeah, so that was Friday night. 173 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:10,440 Got home, went to sleep and got awoken by violent rumbling in my 174 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,920 stomach all night long, which I'm not going to go into detail, 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,840 but this is a running podcast. So you know, and our running 176 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,800 podcast used to be called. We got the runs, so just put two 177 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,800 and two together. I got the runs while I was, you 178 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,640 know, still Friday night. And I'm hoping, OK, what's 179 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,960 happening here? I'm just trying to keep quiet 180 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,760 because I actually have. I'm actually sharing this hotel 181 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,960 room, so I'm trying to keep this as quiet as possible. 182 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,240 And in the morning I got up and I said, you know what? 183 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,120 There's nothing in life you can't run off. 184 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:45,400 I wanted to go to the Shakeout run, which was hosted by 185 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,920 Michelob Ultra with my friends Maria and Leslie, My dear friend 186 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,200 Leslie from LA, who's also an attorney and a mother and an age 187 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,800 group champion for her age group in the marathon distance. 188 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,920 So anyway, I went to that and I could barely kind of function. 189 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,280 I was going through hot sweats while I was there. 190 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,040 And the Shakeout Run, I was walking it a little bit. 191 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,200 It was only two miles long and as soon as I was done, I threw 192 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,640 up. After I threw up, I skipped the 193 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,280 breakfast, which you're welcome everybody else that was at the 194 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,360 breakfast. I spared you the image of a 195 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:31,320 female projectile vomiting. I instead went to CVS and bought 196 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,920 some Imodium. I've never in my life taken 197 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,000 Imodium, but I was recommended Imodium. 198 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,400 So took the Imodium and I also bought some chews. 199 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:46,520 They were like Imodium chews and went back to my room and just 200 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,240 literally crashed and laid down for the rest of the entire 201 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,640 Saturday. OK, so to save anyone from more 202 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:00,280 details of let he got the runs, we can say that it challenged 203 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,160 you during your race but and it may have impacted your your 204 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,360 opinion of the race itself. But without going into more of 205 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,120 those details, you want to talk about race day, then? 206 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:12,840 Yeah. So. 207 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,480 Well, I mean, I had talked to you and every single person that 208 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,360 seems to be a doctor in my life. You're a doctor. 209 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,600 My brother is a doctor. My friend Maria is a doctor, Min 210 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,280 is a doctor. My friends Diana and Tasha, that 211 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,360 I always text with their doctors. 212 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,160 So I have like 17,000 doctors in my life. 213 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,480 And all of them kind of said the same thing. 214 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:35,480 See how you feel in the morning. Maria suggested. 215 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,560 Maybe defer it because this might not be a good idea, but 216 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,240 the main consensus was see how you feel. 217 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,640 The thing is, normally on a Saturday you're carb loading, 218 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,200 right? I didn't carb load, I carb 219 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,960 unloaded the entire day. And here we are. 220 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,600 At the end of Saturday evening, I was able to go to the store to 221 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:03,200 buy some jello and pureed baby banana food because they didn't 222 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,120 have real bananas that were not green. 223 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,080 And that was the extent of what I ate. 224 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,000 But I woke up and I was like, you know what? 225 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,120 I'm already here. I'm going to do this, which was 226 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,880 not a smart decision because now we're at race morning, we're not 227 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,240 carb loaded and food still doesn't sound good. 228 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,800 I'm not doing any of the regular marathon routine things, which 229 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,640 is, you know, eat something, drink some coffee. 230 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,120 So with that out of the way, we can talk about it later as you 231 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,760 do the race, you want to talk about this start and. 232 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Getting to the beginning of the race like this one actually runs 233 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,280 from Staten Island to Central Park, which are separated by 234 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,800 water bridges and distance. So it's not certainly not a race 235 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,160 that starts and ends in the same location. 236 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,600 Yeah, so we had signed up to take the bus from the library, 237 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,160 so we had to go down there. We arrived a little bit early, 238 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,880 which is fine, You know. It was a it was going to be a 239 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,880 long day and it was pretty smooth. 240 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,760 It was well organized. We arrived in Staten Island 241 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,560 after about an hour, and then we had a lot of time in the 242 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:07,560 village. But luckily the weather was 243 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,800 great. The robe, I barely needed it. 244 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,840 It wasn't cold. I was afraid I was going to be 245 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,160 shivering all day long, but it wasn't the case. 246 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,920 Dunkin Donut had provided coffee and tea and hot chocolate and 247 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,560 all sorts of stuff. There was science and sports 248 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:23,480 that they were providing bars. There were bagels and all that 249 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,840 stuff. Again, nothing sounded good. 250 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,840 I chewed on a bagel, but I made sure that I went to the Dunkin 251 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,800 Donut truck because I wanted to get a hat. 252 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,440 So why is this hat infamous? Because everybody that is a 253 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,000 little bit into running knows about this hat and wants to wear 254 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,440 it. So you wanted a hat, and then 255 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,440 you told me you had to carry the hat with you, though, because 256 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,600 you get it and you don't have your you've already dropped your 257 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,720 stuff off. So I decided to just put it in 258 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,880 the back of my sports bra and slide it in there. 259 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,720 It was kind of funny while I tried to do it myself. 260 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:54,840 I put my shoulder blades too close together, I guess, and my 261 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,360 sports bra in the back has clips and I unclipped my sports bra. 262 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,560 So then, you know, to put this thing on, I usually have to take 263 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:06,920 it off completely. And I found a nice volunteer 264 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,240 female, of course that closed my sports bra for me and put the 265 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,280 hats in there. It was kind of funny. 266 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,760 I was feeling great. I was in a great mood. 267 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,640 I was running into people. It was. 268 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,160 It was all dandy at this point. All right, so before we start 269 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040 talking about the race, I actually, on race day, I tried 270 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,560 to look up your name and it didn't even show up. 271 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,440 And I was like, what are you actually running this race? 272 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,760 And I actually, even I could see a photo 'cause you posted a 273 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,040 photo of the your bib number. And I tried to even look up the 274 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,520 bib number and it still didn't show up. 275 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,960 But Anders or other people did show up. 276 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,920 And so I was like, hey, why aren't you showing up? 277 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,120 I didn't even know you did this, but you made it untrackable or 278 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,360 something. Yeah. 279 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:52,840 So the Berlin Marathon has an option to hide your splits, so 280 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,400 to speak, So people can see you and they can see you're 281 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,160 finishing time, but they can't see your race splits. 282 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,920 And I felt like that was something I wanted to do just 283 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,920 because I wasn't gonna race this race. 284 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,800 I didn't realize that it would completely take me of any 285 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,760 searchable results and searchable photos and all that 286 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,000 stuff. So that's how that happened. 287 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,480 And I had a lot of messages from friends and others, and they 288 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,680 were just kind of like, oh, you know, the ones that knew I was 289 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,520 sick, thought I had deferred. And the ones that didn't were 290 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,960 just confused. So you may not have run the 291 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,160 race. Really. 292 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,080 No, I I did. I did. 293 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:36,400 OK. Are you looking for the Perfect 294 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,440 apparel That mirrors your love for running? 295 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Look no further than Run Swag The go to store by runners for 296 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,200 runners. From witty Tees to hoodies that 297 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,640 commemorate your Marathon Majors to crops that get you motivated, 298 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,120 run swags got you covered. Discover the perfect blend of 299 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,640 comfort and style. Visit www.runswag.com Run swag. 300 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,760 There's something for every runner. 301 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,280 All right. So you want to talk about the 302 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,760 first half? Yes. 303 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,880 And you're true, Ryan Fashion, I know you like talking about 304 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,760 first half, second-half and this time it actually exactly worked 305 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,280 out that way. So actually I looked at the race 306 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,040 course and it looks like do they separate the courses based on 307 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,760 like what color your bibs were for? 308 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,960 A pit for the beginning? Just the beginning. 309 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,240 Yeah, just a little bit. Yeah, that's interesting, but I 310 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,560 think it's just because otherwise it's too crowded. 311 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,120 Yeah, it actually makes sense. And then and then then later on 312 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,640 and they kind of all merged together, which at that point 313 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,520 people are spread. So it's probably not as bad. 314 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,960 Yeah, it was great. But that, yeah, I don't know if 315 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,360 I've ever seen. I'm sure they have it in other 316 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,880 races too, probably, but I've never, I've never seen it in a 317 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,920 marathon and it's kind of neat, yeah. 318 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,880 So go on. So yeah. 319 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 So at the beginning they played Frank Sinatra, New York, NY. 320 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,800 It made me emotional. I take a lot of videos and there 321 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,040 we went, we started. There was a wave of runners that 322 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,760 were guides to people that were seeing eye impaired and they 323 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,280 were running across the Verrazano Bridge with us at the 324 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,560 same time. And it was so cool to just 325 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,000 witness this, you know, this energy and be part of it and 326 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,599 running across that bridge, right? 327 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,480 It was kind of, I tried to take videos and it doesn't do it 328 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,839 justice. You are running with all these 329 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,520 amazing people and then you look to your left and you see the 330 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,800 entire city of New York. But it's kind of like in fog and 331 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,440 it was just, it was just gorgeous. 332 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,480 And you don't notice that it's uphill. 333 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,160 I mean, you do because your time on your garment is slower, but 334 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,720 it kind of carries you. And then there's a downhill, and 335 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,560 that downhill just kind of flew by. 336 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,000 It was. It actually starts I think at at 337 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,600 elevation at a couple like. So you do go up a little bit for 338 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,080 the bridge, but you don't start from. 339 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,760 Sea level per SE, You know, you go up a little bit, then you go 340 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,800 down further and into the first set of spectators. 341 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,960 That was non-stop the entire race. 342 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,400 I don't think I've ever seen as many spectators as in this race 343 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,240 and that was really, really cool. 344 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,800 I remember that. I remember running towards the 345 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,800 city and just feeling this energy. 346 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,840 I was looking at my pace and I was going just as fast as in 347 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,240 Chicago, I believe, without even trying, just because I felt 348 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,560 great. And everyone around me, it was 349 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,480 just so much greatness. Great, Great. 350 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,040 Great. I can imagine running up to that 351 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,600 is kind of neat. Yeah, it was absolutely cool. 352 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,760 And I was trying to follow yours and Steven's advice, which was 353 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,280 to drink Gatorade at every stop. And I did that and it was 354 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,920 energizing. I also, for the first time, had 355 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,080 brought a flask of Maple syrup. And who gave you that idea? 356 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,200 So our friends Martin Isabelle, which are snowbirds to Florida. 357 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,320 From from Canada the. Home of the Maple syrup. 358 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,040 Home of the Maple syrup. I don't know if he's trying to 359 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,560 promote it or whatever he was trying to do, but you know, he 360 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,400 ran a 235 with it and he's a very big analytical runner and 361 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,280 has reasons to why he does what. And I trusted him with that. 362 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,200 Bought a flask, put in the Maple syrup and it was really good and 363 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,600 it was nice. I didn't have to carry 20,000 364 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,120 gels. I just had this little flask in 365 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:15,080 my sports bra and I was having a little zip of it every couple 366 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,240 miles feeling just really, really great. 367 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,320 Yeah, so that's just just to give a little more depth into 368 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,680 the to the Maple syrup thing, 'cause that's a little unusual. 369 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,320 But yeah, I think it's not a bad idea. 370 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,640 I mean most of those, especially if sports drinks, other things 371 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,800 too. Most of the gels and everything 372 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,360 are, you know, a source of sugar and stuff. 373 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:35,240 So yeah. But go on, so, so then 374 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,160 everything was great. The energy was great. 375 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,920 The spectators, the signs I saw, the funniest signs, they were 376 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,440 motivating. They were, you know, made us 377 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,640 emotional. They were talking about being in 378 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,960 New York and this is what you've been waiting for. 379 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,400 Or they were humorous and all that stuff. 380 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,360 So everything was great. So we've gotten through the 381 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:57,760 first part of the race, the first half of the race, and 382 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,080 you're feeling good, right? Feeling great. 383 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:03,040 So now we go on to the second-half of the race and. 384 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,840 And I felt great for another mile until mile 14 Gatorade 385 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,440 stop. Oh, is that a Gatorade stop too. 386 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,800 What happened? So I took a Gatorade and I don't 387 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,560 stop and walk, 'cause I'm feeling great. 388 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,360 Take it. And then I think about, you 389 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:25,320 know, 200 meters after that I get this severe stomach cramp 390 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,160 and it feels like labor pain. For those of you that have had 391 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,960 children, you know what contractions feel like. 392 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,240 It felt like a contraction. So you know, you can't run 393 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,600 through the contraction. I'm actually standing there and 394 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,400 I'm confused because I'm still going fast, still going sub 395 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,920 eight minute miles probably and I have to stop so I can breathe 396 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,800 through this weird cramp in my stomach and I try to write it 397 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,360 off as OK, whatever, it just happens. 398 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:53,520 This is a weird stomach cramp. I continue running and then I 399 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,160 have this urge to go to the bathroom, but I can't go to the 400 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,600 bathroom because I took Imodium so I knew I was safe outside of 401 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,560 the bathroom. Why are you shaking your head? 402 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,040 For those of you who don't know Letty, this is like every single 403 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960 medical issue that comes up. It's like it turns into a 404 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,280 disaster in two seconds. It's so funny. 405 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,200 Well, all right, so I can't go to the bathroom, but these 406 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,040 stomach cramps keep coming. First, it's just one cramp per 407 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,560 mile, and then there's this urge to throw up. 408 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040 And I didn't throw up. I can't keep this Gatorade down. 409 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,080 And I'm almost afraid to take another Gatorade. 410 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,160 I know I have to hydrate because my brother warned me. 411 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,880 He said, you know, dehydration is not just important for 412 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,880 running. It's also when you're 413 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,720 dehydrated, it's important for your heart. 414 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,800 So this, you know, his words resonate in my mind. 415 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,840 I'm kind of thinking, why am I running this race? 416 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,120 But then at the same time, I'm feeling so crappy that I never 417 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,520 want to go back to New York. So I need to get this medal. 418 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Otherwise you know life will end and I don't get this extra star. 419 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,280 So then how did you make it to the end? 420 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,520 Or did you make it to the end? That is the question. 421 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,400 So did you just walk it? No, I tried to run it. 422 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,160 I tried to run between the cramps, but it was getting 423 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,560 harder and harder. I had like these hot sweats 424 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,360 going on, kind of like what I'm imagining hot flashes will be 425 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:20,720 like shortly in my real life. OK, I'm imagining this is what 426 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,640 it feels like. And then contraction pains, 427 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,360 which doesn't make sense. You shouldn't have the two of 428 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:29,280 them together ever. And then the vomiting, right? 429 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,160 I mean, I'm laughing about it now, but at the time it was 430 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,240 literally, I felt like there was not enough bathrooms. 431 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560 I felt like the bathrooms were too spread out. 432 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,840 And a few times I just pulled over to the side of the road and 433 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:46,080 I threw up and then I was embarrassed and people would 434 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,120 say, are you OK? And of course I say yes and I 435 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:50,800 start running again because I don't wanna. 436 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,760 I don't wanna be caught by them or the medical team that's gonna 437 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,360 pull me off the course and says you can't do this, this is not a 438 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,360 good idea. Sorry I'm laughing, but it also 439 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,120 reminds me of other other situations where you've. 440 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,240 You know, falling down in front of people or other stuff and 441 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,200 people ask if you're OK and for whatever reason, you don't ever 442 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,200 want to accept help. You're just like, yeah, yeah, 443 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,240 I'm OK. I just was looking at something 444 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,240 and you like, fell down or like, tripped her over a Bush and 445 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,720 broke her ankle. When you talk to your friend, 446 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760 you're meeting your friend. If you listen to old podcasts, 447 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,160 I'm sure you'll you'll hear other lady stories. 448 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,000 And sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, but it is kind of funny 449 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,320 'cause it doesn't. Happen infrequently for you, but 450 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,720 really Ryan, like, you know, if if the medical team pulls you 451 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,320 off the course, you're done with the race. 452 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,920 And I wasn't mentally ready. I hated it so much at that 453 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,360 point, and it was so weird to see such a beautiful race bring 454 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:49,600 me to such a dark place where I was just like, I don't ever want 455 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,760 to be here again. I don't ever want to smell this 456 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,000 race again. And yeah, so I kept running and 457 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,840 everything just kept going slower and slower in the end. 458 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,680 And I'm not slow bashing anyone. But my normal pace for a slow 459 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:09,280 run is about 9 minute pace. And I was running 12 minute pace 460 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,640 for a majority. And I was getting really 461 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,520 frustrated because I would look at my watch and the time that 462 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,640 had lapsed since I looked at my watch last and I hadn't really 463 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,560 moved and everything just felt like slow motion to me. 464 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,120 So do you remember a lot other other than that, though, I'm 465 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,240 sure that probably drew most of your attention away. 466 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,360 So you might have just even blacked, you know, essentially 467 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,840 blacked out with all the crowd and everything else. 468 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:38,440 I blacked out a lot of the hills that were supposedly there. 469 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,080 I didn't realize they were hills or not. 470 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,120 I tried to make sure I looked at the spectators because I was 471 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:47,320 always told the spectators in New York are so deep. 472 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,800 And I did see that, like, you know, there was not just one 473 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,480 line of people. There would be like people. 474 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,600 And then behind the people were more people and more people. 475 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,800 And that was pretty amazing, to see how deep of a crowd this 476 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,000 race attracted. But not just in one spot, but in 477 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,080 most spots. That's cool that there's a lot 478 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,920 of people you know, showing up for that race. 479 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,240 I think, you know, it's nice that the race runs through such 480 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,800 a dense city and that conducive to people coming out and showing 481 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,720 support. Any other memorable spots before 482 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,120 you get to the finish? That's pretty much it. 483 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,560 I literally just paid attention to where the toilets, where I 484 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,480 was looking for the sign that said toilet. 485 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,120 And so finally we turned, made a right and then turned again 486 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,960 right into Central Park and I I was happy. 487 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,120 But at that time I was also I I don't know, I felt very 488 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:37,440 emotional, but not because I was happy to be a finisher. 489 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,120 I just wanted to be done with this race. 490 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,680 So then I crossed the finish line and right when I crossed 491 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,480 the finish line I made eye contact with this nice lady from 492 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,720 the medical team who I guess said I probably looked like I 493 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,920 was in distress. I must have had a little bit of 494 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,520 a throw up spot on my shirt and my lips were a little bluish, so 495 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,360 they asked me to sit in the wheelchair so they could wheel 496 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,920 me to the medical tent. I didn't need the wheelchair, 497 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,200 right. I think that was kind of over 498 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,720 the top of it I guess. You know, I guess that's the how 499 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,560 they do it. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to know 500 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,160 when you're if you didn't have someone else while you finished 501 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,400 there, you might look different than you think you do from the 502 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000 outside. Or like you say, it might have 503 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,240 just been standard procedure, but go on. 504 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Yes. So then I got into the medical 505 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:31,360 tent and I laid down. I was very nauseous. 506 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:35,640 I was still throwing up and they tried to put alcohol swabs under 507 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,560 my nose because they said that helps you nausea and it didn't. 508 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,600 It kept on making me throw up worse. 509 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,960 And then they added salt under my tongue, which didn't do 510 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,240 anything either. And then finally, they gave me a 511 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,920 drug called Sofran, which I was waiting for it to kick in to get 512 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,040 rid of the nausea. And while I was waiting there, I 513 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,080 started to get really cold. They didn't give you real 514 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,680 blankets. They gave you these Mylar 515 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,320 blankets. And I was shivering and I looked 516 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,640 up and there was Calvin standing there. 517 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,200 Here's the irony of it all. Back when I first started this 518 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,880 podcast, I interviewed this guy. His name is Calvin Sun. 519 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,320 He's a physician who talked to me about the effect of COVID on 520 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,880 runners. He was also the chief medical 521 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,880 director of the New York City Marathon, and I didn't even 522 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,160 realize that. But he was still the chief 523 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,360 medical director of the New York City Marathon. 524 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,200 I said hi to him and. He was a surprise, I imagine. 525 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,640 Yeah, but you know how I get really cold after? 526 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,080 And I was freezing. It was getting colder and 527 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,680 colder. So they started to take my 528 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,200 temperature and they used the thermometer under my tongue and 529 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,840 then they used about three more before they said that my 530 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,680 temperature was 91.5 and I had to go into the bear hug blanket, 531 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,240 which I couldn't wait. It just sounded amazing. 532 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,480 I was. I was gonna say that sounds like 533 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,960 a Knowing you, that sounds like it would be a dream of yours 534 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,920 even if you weren't running a marathon or cold. 535 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,600 Yeah, but you know how I get really cold after everyone? 536 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,000 Yeah, So go on. Yeah. 537 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,080 So then I got into that blanket, and it's basically a blanket 538 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,720 that has hot air blown into it. And I was just shivering. 539 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,600 They were giving me shirts and all kinds of stuff to put on me 540 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,440 just to raise my temperature. They were asking me questions, 541 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,480 and I think I was pretty responsive. 542 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,080 I mean, I gave them your phone number for a case of emergency 543 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,080 and all that stuff. But then they did ask me, do you 544 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,360 know where you are? And for some reason, I was 545 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,360 confused. And they asked me where I was 546 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,040 and I said I'm in Chicago. But I immediately, I mean pretty 547 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,640 much after I said it, I realized, wait, you're not at 548 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Chicago, you're in New York. So I corrected myself. 549 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,320 It was a kind of a blurry experience. 550 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,840 I think I was going in and out of sleep a lot. 551 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,040 They are trying to keep you awake because they want to make 552 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,240 sure that everything is OK, but at the same time, you know, you 553 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,920 put hot blankets and everything on someone. 554 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,560 My body temperature next time they checked it was 92, then 94, 555 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,120 then 96 spread out over time. And then I remember waking up 556 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,960 the last time when she said let's check your temperature 557 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280 again and it was, I don't know, 101. 558 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,680 And they're like, OK, you're good to go. 559 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Yeah. And and for people that don't 560 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,160 know, you could pretty pretty much fall asleep almost 561 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,800 anywhere. So that wasn't abnormal for you 562 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,360 necessarily. It's probably just being warm. 563 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,840 It was warm and cozy and. Yeah, yeah, Get that in a 564 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,240 comfortable spot and make her warm. 565 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,960 And she's sleeping, taking a nap. 566 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,160 The AC was out earlier today and I was wondering why I was so 567 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,640 sleepy. Yeah, so. 568 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,040 Added information and I guess it's been nice in Florida. 569 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,360 So I we had the AC off, I guess I didn't even realize it, but 570 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,480 today it was a little bit warmer. 571 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,960 So it's a bit hotter in in the house and I'm like, oh, why is 572 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,200 it hot? I was like, why am I so sleepy? 573 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,160 So you spent some time in the medical 10. 574 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,480 Yeah, probably around 2 hours, which later on we had the 575 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,120 opportunity to get the medal engraved. 576 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,920 And you know, I never get my medals engraved. 577 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,840 I don't know what time I run my marathons in, but the 578 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,480 opportunity arose and so instead of putting my name and my time, 579 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,560 which I still couldn't look myself up. 580 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,960 Do you know what your time was? Yeah, it was 356, I believe. 581 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Oh, that's actually not that slow. 582 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,200 But anyway, so you put on the metal the time you spent in the 583 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,400 medical tent. But I'm kind of, you know, 584 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,360 embellished on that. I put one hour 5959 the 585 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,600 significance of which? It is the world record, the 586 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,440 world record. It's a shout out to Kipchogi. 587 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,680 He was trying to run a marathon in sub two hours and that's the 588 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,720 time I put on there. It was it was funny at the time. 589 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,200 It is funny. I saw you posted that on 590 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,760 Instagram or something when you were still gone in New York. 591 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920 And I was like, oh, do they actually give you like a medal 592 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,640 after you've been in the medical tent? 593 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,240 That's what I thought it was. I thought like. 594 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,800 You know, you you spend time in the medical tent and they 595 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,120 actually like, give you a little medal for the time you spent in 596 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,280 the medical tent. So I'd be like that would be 597 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,320 kind of a neat thing to get people recent success set to 598 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,960 Calvin. So anyway, so what's next? 599 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,040 So yeah, so after that I had to go collect my bag. 600 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,440 That was a little bit tedious because you have to go through 601 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,960 the back check. It exits out on the southwest 602 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,440 corner of the park and then they don't let you cross over. 603 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,680 To be able to catch any public transportation, you have to walk 604 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,560 all the way down and then find a metro station or a subway 605 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,000 station. So it took me about an hour to 606 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,840 find transportation to get home 'cause I wasn't going to walk 607 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,000 it. I had like 5 blankets around my 608 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,720 waist and some on my top, and all that stuff is it was a 609 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,000 little bit hard to walk, not because of soreness but because 610 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,520 of the amount of clothing I was wearing. 611 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,320 And then I went back to the apartment, I took a long hot 612 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,960 shower and I felt great. And I think you know obviously 613 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,720 the anti nausea drug is something that was very strong 614 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,080 and and it was very effective and it kind of turned the day 615 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,040 around a little bit. I had enough energy later on to 616 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:16,360 meet back up with my friend Maria, who had invited me to the 617 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,440 Michelob Ultra event, just, you know, for 5 minutes to say hi. 618 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,040 And I had the opportunity to go back to the finish line because 619 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,440 it apparently the New York City Marathon let's everyone finish, 620 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,680 but I decided to just take the train back. 621 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,840 I kind of regret not having gone back to the finish line, seeing 622 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,360 people finish in the dark, but, you know, maybe next time. 623 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,440 Yeah, And then. And then you said you didn't 624 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,920 want to do it again. You just wanted to finish so you 625 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000 wouldn't have to do it again. I think you should do it again, 626 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200 though. Then you can redeem yourself and 627 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,880 have a good race. Maybe you'll think. 628 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,880 Have a better memory of it. And you know, I know I told you 629 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,320 that I was never going to run it again, But runners, amnesia is 630 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,080 real. Yeah, well, after you have a few 631 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,400 days off and stuff, I'm sure you, because not only did you 632 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,680 have the stresses of a marathon, you know where you get tired at 633 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,680 the end and soar, but then you also had all the GI issues that 634 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,800 he had the runs. So yeah, that probably the 635 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,120 combination. Made it not so pleasant. 636 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,760 We won't ask you to rate this one because it had complicating 637 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,760 circumstances. So that's interesting. 638 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,320 So now we are interviewing the guy that you saw in the medal 639 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,600 tent. Did you ask him while you were 640 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,240 there? No. 641 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,520 I messaged him afterwards. I said it was great to see you 642 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,320 in action. And then I suggested, hey, you 643 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,200 want to come back on and we can talk a little bit about the most 644 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,240 common things you see in these medical tents. 645 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Because, Ryan, you are constantly surrounded by 646 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,920 patients and that sort of thing. And I am not. 647 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,440 I'm in a completely different field. 648 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,000 And the noises and things that I heard in there were pretty 649 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,160 crazy, you know, people full on cramping and screaming. 650 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,360 It was. It was almost like a little bit 651 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,840 of a torture chamber element to it. 652 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,640 Yeah, I can see that. I think for a lot of people 653 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,320 running a marathon is a little bit of torture, especially for 654 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,320 people that are not prepared. And then also visually seeing 655 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,480 people coming in. Because I'm laying in this bed 656 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,159 when I'm not sleeping, my eyes are open and I see people with 657 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,320 completely, you know, black rings under their eyes and 658 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,239 people that are unconscious and people that have all sorts of 659 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,360 issue and need help walking. And other people in the bear 660 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,280 huggers next to me also shivering. 661 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,000 I know I was shivering, so I probably didn't look that hot in 662 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,920 there either, but it's just it was very, very interesting and 663 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,360 shocking. And it was also cool to see the 664 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,600 amounts of medical students that were there. 665 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,840 And attendings, everybody was labeled and everybody was really 666 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,800 helpful trying to make an impact on this race that was so well 667 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,960 organized. So yeah, it is good to see, you 668 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,600 know, fortunately you had better temperatures for running. 669 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,800 But I know a lot of these races you can even have people way 670 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,480 worse off with too much heat. I'm sure a lot of that happens 671 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,360 at all these races where you have tons of people with medical 672 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,560 problems. And I'm sure Calvin stays very 673 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,080 busy. So you ready to get into it? 674 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,320 All right, so without any further ado, I'm now going to 675 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,680 play my conversation with the New York Rd. 676 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,440 Runner, chief medical director, Doctor Calvin Sun. 677 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,240 It's good to have you back. Good to be back. 678 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,960 Congratulations on completing the New York City Marathon. 679 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,920 Yes, thank you. Thank you for you 2 obviously, 680 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,520 for organizing all this craziness. 681 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,920 Aren't. You even recognizing all that 682 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,440 chaos, that's why. Yeah, that was crazy. 683 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920 I can't believe I saw you in that medical tent. 684 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,240 I was. And it's such a blur. 685 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,840 But then your facial shows up and I never forget a face. 686 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,760 So I was like, oh, I know him. That was kind of funny to make 687 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,720 that connection because I was so out of it. 688 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,200 And all of a sudden there you were, I was like, oh, that's 689 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,960 Calvin. And then I told the people next 690 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,520 to me, I was like, oh, that's Calvin. 691 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,080 And I couldn't think of your last name. 692 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120 So I was like, it's Calvin Harris, Calvin Klein. 693 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,760 And they're like, what are you talking about? 694 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,480 So you know, let me, let me go into some numbers. 695 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,520 Just you said you had about 1000 volunteers that you're. 696 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,200 Posting 1800 this this year 1800 volunteers and that was, as I 697 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,440 saw, comprised of medical students attending physicians. 698 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,120 What else? Who else is able to volunteer 699 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,520 for the New York City America? We take everyone and anyone that 700 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,600 has a license or ACPR certificate or just anyone who 701 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,960 wants to help. Pre meds college students we 702 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,440 have attending physicians, resident physicians. 703 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:41,360 We had RNS, Resident Nurses, NPS, Nurse Practitioners, 704 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,080 Physicians Assistants, Associates, PAS. 705 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,920 We had medical students, PT students, physical therapists, 706 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,000 athletic trainers, ates. We had mental health therapists, 707 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,960 psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers. 708 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:59,560 We had licensed licensed social workers. 709 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,640 We had registration. We had spotters. 710 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,640 We had registration admin students, medical, nursing, 711 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,680 physical therapy and ATC students, athletic trainers, 712 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,880 occupational therapists, physician assistants, associates 713 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,480 or PAS. Outdoor Emergency Technician, 714 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:22,160 OECSEMTS Paramedics, Man, I don't want to miss anyone here. 715 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,760 These are all public stuff. You can go to 716 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:31,480 nyrr.org/getinvolved/volunteer/opportunities and I think it's a bunch of a 717 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480 mom and gentle question mark, yadda yadda yadda and they have 718 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,840 all that list. That's a lot. 719 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,520 And you had obviously you'd mentioned 8 tents, so you had 720 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,680 one big tent at the finish line, but in all throughout the course 721 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,000 you had how many tents? So I'm going to tell you 722 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,280 exactly. So we have about 7:00 to 8:00 723 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,720 depending on if you count some, some tents are just only a 724 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,120 certain type of runners. So I'm not sure if I can count 725 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,360 that because they only say, yeah, they're pro athletes and 726 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,280 celebrities. So I'm like like I didn't 727 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,760 oversee that one, like that's NYRR, you know, VIP stuff. 728 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,400 So can't say much about that. But there there was a tent for 729 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,080 those runners that, but if they were really, really sick, they 730 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,400 come to us. OK. 731 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,960 So for us, the ones we take care of all and we have the equipment 732 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,720 to run it like a kind of quasi battlefield emergency room. 733 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:29,880 That's about 7 medical tents and we also have one course tent and 734 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:36,280 every mile after mile 3, so from 3 to 26 that's I think 24 tents 735 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,240 and we had to start tent at Staten Island. 736 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:48,240 Wow, that's a lot. You know from your experience. 737 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:51,160 What is the most common thing that you see in runners? 738 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,280 Why are runners being treated? Everything. 739 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,480 They're here. They're for everything. 740 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,680 Do we have mental health therapists for runners who are 741 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,160 just going through a panic attack or a panic attack after 742 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,840 they finish and they just don't know what they have done? 743 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,200 Or we we need a mental health therapist for families so their 744 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,280 patients, do you know family runners who are just worried 745 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,920 outside? And they can't. 746 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,880 They're not allowed inside. So obviously they're they're 747 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,440 understandably agitated or the run is being sent to the 748 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,960 hospital. And then we have the runners who 749 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,760 come in because of cramps and muscle skeletal problems, and 750 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,520 they can't walk after just suddenly stopping. 751 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,360 We have a lot of runners that pass out because once you are 752 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,680 running and running and running, your body has established an 753 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,000 equilibrium for 26 miles of constant running and all of a 754 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,520 sudden you stop at the finish line. 755 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,200 All that blood just pulls down into your legs and as a 756 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,920 evolutionary mechanism that we've been designed to. 757 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,960 Evolve with the gravity is that we pass out on purpose of the 758 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,240 blood from the legs go back to the brain because once you level 759 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,680 on the ground, but then we don't worry about head trauma, which 760 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,880 is the other thing you know, trauma when they are and they 761 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,440 fall and they wobble. I mean we catch them most of the 762 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,640 time, but if they wobble and they fall and hit their head, 763 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,720 then we deal with trauma and have to take care of that. 764 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,480 We have a lot of runners who are altered because they drink too 765 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,120 much water, so they're low in salt or hyponatremic, where we 766 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,080 have runners that are a diabetic. 767 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,400 And took too much medicine or their their body got wonky with 768 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,040 their insulin delivery. So now we have hypoglycemic 769 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,560 patients who who have seizures if they are too, too low in 770 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,480 sugar. We have patients that are too 771 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,640 hot. It was it was 62 degrees at some 772 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,320 point during the day, which is pretty hot for some runners. 773 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,000 So they would come in with, you know rectal temperature or core 774 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,680 temperatures of 106 or greater where we then have to dunk them 775 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,640 into ice tanks and take them out before you get they get too 776 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,200 cold. Where occasions who are super 777 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,240 cold come at the end of the race where it's already 4050 degrees 778 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,720 again and they're a little older and they're taking their time 779 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,160 then the course for longer. So they're coming in with their 780 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,200 hypothermic, with their core temperature being the 90s or 90 781 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,040 fives and with the warm them out with our bear huggers. 782 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,040 And we have patients with, you know, Podiatry issues where they 783 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,600 have bleeding toenails, subungled hematomas that need to 784 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,080 be drilled or stress fractures or sprained ankles. 785 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,000 I had a dislocated shoulder one time where I was putting it back 786 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,760 in in the medical tent. So you have everything and we 787 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,040 take care of all of it. The the beauty of it is how many 788 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520 were able to take care of and get them back on their feet 789 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,160 within minutes to hours with our volunteer force. 790 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,480 These patients that will come to the emergency room would have 791 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,000 waited hours and hours and hours because of time it takes to 792 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,840 deliver healthcare. You know, the staffing issues, 793 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,320 the medical resources that we need more of in our hospitals or 794 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,440 just logistics, insurance and red tape. 795 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,200 And they would take, you know, they would just start cramping 796 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,000 up if they came to a regular emergency room because they've 797 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,080 waited too long for runners and not being escorted or let out or 798 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,440 walked around, which you really can't do with, you know, that's 799 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,680 cramped. They start cramping up and then 800 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,080 they stay for longer and then they cramp up so much they can't 801 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,200 walk and they have to stay overnight. 802 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,800 And it's just, it just compounds. 803 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,520 Whereas the medical tent, it's designed beautifully somehow to 804 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,120 have, even though it's like wartime battlefield conditions 805 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,400 of the military, Cots and chairs scattered everywhere. 806 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,680 We try to put it together and hundreds and hundreds of 807 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,440 patients came coming out at the same time. 808 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,760 How do we turn them out? So hundreds and hundreds of them 809 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,920 walk out within minutes to hours. 810 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,120 So we still have enough turnover. 811 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,280 It's like a Diner Dash, but in Healthcare is that that's the 812 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,600 beauty in the in what we do. It's not just one-on-one patient 813 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,760 care, which I tell my volunteers to focus in on and like you're 814 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,480 you're going to be there for someone's best day of their 815 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,320 lives. That intimate contact that you 816 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,520 have with them is going to feel your cuff for the rest of your 817 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,920 year in the hospitals, which everyone else's worst day of 818 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,520 their lives that you're going to be there for. 819 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:35,200 But it's also taking a step back. 820 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,160 I tell them at around 2:00 to 3:00 PM, take a step back and 821 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,600 take it all in to see how we are able to just like watch a sea of 822 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,040 red shirt wearing volunteers, take care, see patients with 823 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,920 their bin numbers is come in like an ocean. 824 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,040 And you just think at the time like if they came in an 825 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,160 emergency room, we'd all be like mass casualty like calling the 826 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,680 FDNY, calling 911 on the hospital. 827 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520 But here we somehow don't let that happen. 828 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,480 And that's the beauty of just like it's just remarkable the 829 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,560 same volunteers to be able to do that, see what's Healthcare is 830 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,560 capable of when it's really, really a little biased here, 831 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,120 well run where you can see and take care and treat hundreds, 832 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,680 thousands of patients like I think we took care of 6000 833 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,240 patients in a span of eight hours, 10 hours. 834 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,720 It's the world's largest planned mass casualty event. 835 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,320 But it's also the beauty is just how happy everyone is. 836 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,640 It's like, everyone's happy. Even the runners who are 837 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,840 patients are happy because they just finished the marathon. 838 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,360 They're so grateful. They get to share that. 839 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,480 And they're like, what did I just do? 840 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,640 And the first person they see isn't family because they 841 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,680 collapse, but a medical volunteer who's sharing their, 842 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,320 like, first basket of afterglow after finishing the marathon and 843 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,280 that connection. And while doing all of that. 844 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,760 And then at the end at 7:00 PM, we look back in an empty tent 845 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,920 and they're trickling. Now you're just like, wow, what 846 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,160 did we just do together? And then the next day, the 847 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,840 tent's gone. It's just a patch of grass. 848 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,040 And it's like, as if it never happened. 849 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,240 And we move on until the next. Year. 850 00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,840 Oh my God, you said that. So beautiful. 851 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,600 Yeah, I love this, you know, because we don't look at it that 852 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,200 way. For us, it's like the one time 853 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,840 visit. But you're right, all the 854 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,160 patients, quote UN quote, we're all happy because we just 855 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,600 completed something in a city and we paid money to do this. 856 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,360 So here we are. I I felt very well taken care 857 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,600 of. I felt like the one-on-one 858 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,000 contact was there. They were there taking their 859 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,640 time even though, you know, they're under pressure to open 860 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,560 up more beds. But it didn't feel like it. 861 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,160 No. I mean, I only did that once 862 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,880 last year when the weather was like 75 degrees, the hottest 863 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,560 marathon day on record. Where I didn't open up a new 864 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,080 section or more COTS. We just ran out. 865 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,440 I had to change sections around on the fly because we started 866 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,880 having a row of patients waiting to go to the ER because they 867 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,480 were just too hot and we had to dunk all of them. 868 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,640 And you should send patients that you dung with the rectal 869 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,480 temperature or quart temperature of 108 and higher to the 870 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,280 emergency room because they need monitoring. 871 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,800 And there were just so many of them that last year was a little 872 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,960 dicey. But again, last year, this year, 873 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,560 no fatalities, no cardiac arrests, no No one that we 874 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,720 couldn't save. Everyone got to go home and it 875 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:11,040 was remarkable because out of 6000 patients that come in in 876 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,240 eight to 10 hours, you can bet there was going to be at least 877 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:16,160 one or two of them that's going to be sicker than the rest, 878 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,480 which shouldn't be running a marathon. 879 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,840 And remarkably, they were all very, very healthy enough. 880 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,080 And we had a great tea that saw things quickly to prevent that 881 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,360 from ever happening. So it's been, you know, four or 882 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,800 five days since the marathon and we still haven't, you know, 883 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,760 heard anything and I have anything. 884 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,160 We've been confirmed that we can move on like you're good. 885 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,120 No fatalities. It's on to the next and if 886 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,400 anything happened at this point, it's not because of the 887 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,200 marathon. So I am very grateful to a 888 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,520 wonderful medical team that I'm really sad that I only get to 889 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,720 see once a year, if not once in my my entire life. 890 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,080 It's not like you could expect the same volunteers to come 891 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,120 every year. These are 1800 volunteers that 892 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,600 do it once and they want to see what it's all about and not all 893 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,600 of them are going to be able to do it again a second time. 894 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,720 I was lucky that I was able to do it two to three times. 895 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,080 That was enough for students to remember my name when we run 896 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,480 into. Right and ran into each other 897 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,480 four years after my first marathon in Maryland. 898 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,040 And it's it's just but that's that thing. 899 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,160 That's why we do this like the looking back we can we're able 900 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,640 to explain it but in the moment we we're just at TV assets like, 901 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,880 oh I'm just here to volunteer. It's just like a regular day 902 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,200 volunteering and then I'll, you know, I'll feel what I feel 903 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,480 afterwards. And then you walk that way and 904 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,080 it's like, huh, this is different. 905 00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,600 And I hope and I I was worried because when they go to bed the 906 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,280 next morning, they're like, it's it's a Monday and they forget 907 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,480 what they they accomplish, how special it was. 908 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,240 It's easy to forget emotions. Your brain only remembers what 909 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:38,720 it what it wants to remember. You can have the most impactful 910 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,160 emotional day of your life. That how amazing it is. 911 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,040 And your brain the next Monday chooses to stress out about 912 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,840 there's no coffee in my breakfast. 913 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,960 There's no ice cream in the refrigerator and completely 914 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,040 forget what how special yesterday was. 915 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,600 That's it. You don't you don't ever feel 916 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:53,560 it. It's not there anymore. 917 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,560 It's gone. You. 918 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,640 You have the power to choose what to worship and focus on, 919 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,440 your energies on. And right now, the last four 920 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,760 days, it's been an emotional hangover of me choosing to 921 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,320 ruminate and dwell on how amazing and special that day was 922 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,680 before I'm truly ready to move on. 923 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,760 And that's that's just me. I'm. 924 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,800 I'm aware of it. And I'm happy that I had that 925 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600 part of myself. I love this and it's so 926 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,840 relatable for us marathoners because that's basically how 927 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,400 everything happens to us too when we run this race. 928 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,920 Because it's that moment, it's those 3-4 hours, five hours, 929 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,480 whatever, where you have such an intense experience running 930 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,760 through this big city. And then afterwards it's just 931 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,120 gone and you go back and it's Monday and you know you're back 932 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,000 in your routine and everyone else like, oh, you ran the math. 933 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,880 That's cool. And then let's move on. 934 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,320 And like, I felt like a pithy one liner for my friends, but 935 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,760 like, do you know how much it meant to me? 936 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,640 Everyone that I ran next to was running for something, and it's 937 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,720 personal. And then we can't really expect 938 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:54,880 anyone else around us unless they're like a really close 939 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,960 loved one to understand. They're like, oh cool, you ran 940 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,240 the marathon. And then probably deep down 941 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:00,320 they're feeling they're insecurity. 942 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,600 They're like, well, why can't I do it? 943 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,840 Like oh man, will I be able to come to something that's amazing 944 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,040 anymore. And you don't want to feel them 945 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,400 to feel bad, but it's just like this, like this fear of really 946 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,600 connecting and being vulnerable when you accomplish something. 947 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,640 So once in a lifetime, for a lot of people, baculous items 948 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,440 because of a something we're running for something, right? 949 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,000 Because of something that makes you vulnerable, putting yourself 950 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,480 in a vulnerable place. And I even told the runners in 951 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,720 my I'm, I'm spoiling my orientation speech that I came 952 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,000 up with this year. I just, I was, you know, a few 953 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,480 minutes late and trying to get everyone together. 954 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,240 I got on the chair and I was like, I got to come up with a 955 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:35,480 speech right now. And the first thing I thought 956 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,560 I'd hit to my head, it's like someone out there right now is 957 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,080 running in New York City in these 26.2 miles. 958 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,600 Someone out there is running right now. 959 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:48,400 Of the 50,000 runners, some of them are going to meet one of 960 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,760 you and you're about to share an intimate best moment of their 961 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,360 lives. Moment in this medical tent. 962 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,800 I said it much more eloquently in the in the tent when you 963 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,600 have, you know, the two 1000 people staring at you. 964 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,720 But it's something about like someone out there is about to 965 00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:07,280 meet you and you're about to share one of the best moments of 966 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,280 their lives with this stranger. Don't fuck it up. 967 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,920 You're going to, this is, this is this is going to impact them 968 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,960 as much as is it's going to impact you. 969 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,280 So cherish it and honour it because they this is, this is 970 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,200 the, this is something that most of them will only do once in 971 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,680 their lives and you are going to be the first person that 972 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,120 happened that's going to happen to be there. 973 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,880 What, No other loved ones, family member partners for life 974 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,000 will ever be able to understand that moment that you're about to 975 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,160 share with this writer. The moment they cross that 976 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,040 finish line and they need you, I'll write that down. 977 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,080 That's really nice. I love it. 978 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,760 Super motivating Calvin. Thank you so much for speaking 979 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,760 with me. Thank you for having me. 980 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:48,840 This is fun. Fun. 981 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,360 All right. Thank you, Calvin again for 982 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,760 speaking with me. And I hope to never see you in 983 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,760 your New York City tent again. Hopefully I'll see you in 984 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,640 another. Better circumstances? 985 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,320 Better circumstances. That's right. 986 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,640 Unless you're just going in for the hugger blanket, you might 987 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,760 try. Did you steal one? 988 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,240 I would imagine you'd try, no? We have to plug them in. 989 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,280 I wish. I wish I was like, man, I wish I 990 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,040 had one of those at home. I figured you probably were 991 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,840 looking to steal one. But anyway, so now that you've 992 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,160 been to the New York City Marathon, would there be things 993 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,640 that you'd do differently or things that you wouldn't? 994 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,760 Yes. So #1 tip is basically the 995 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,360 principle of economics, right? Well, at least when I studied 996 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,200 economics in college, everything is location, location, location. 997 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,680 So while I like staying at the apartment where we stayed, and 998 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,800 I'm really grateful because I got a great deal on staying 999 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,600 there, I feel like if I were to come back, I would definitely 1000 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,720 stay somewhere else. And I'm going to tell you where 1001 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:54,840 I would stay. I would stay around the area of 1002 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,360 Columbus Circle or Times Square. The reason for that is so I 1003 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,560 picked that particularly for a runner that is travelling to 1004 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,200 experience the running scene and that's kind of my main thing. 1005 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,680 I figured it out for Chicago, I figured it out for Boston. 1006 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,080 Boston's very easy. Everything is kind of central 1007 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,640 towards the finish line area and same with Chicago. 1008 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,200 But those are the areas where the events will happen. 1009 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,720 It's close enough to the Expo, but if you're really into 1010 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,960 running and you want to experience the running world and 1011 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,200 see other runners and meet your running friends. 1012 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,360 Then that's where they have events. 1013 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,080 That's where the pop up shops are. 1014 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,240 That's where the Shakeout runs, our breakfast, all kinds of 1015 00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,520 stuff with other runners. Otherwise I feel like if I were 1016 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,080 to travel with family, you know the place where we stayed 1017 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,040 wouldn't have been so bad because we would have probably 1018 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,440 done other things. But if you're just traveling by 1019 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,480 yourself as a runner and you want a runner's weekend, that's 1020 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,040 where I would recommend staying. Yeah, I would argue even with 1021 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,600 the family, those would be better spots probably, but so 1022 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,640 that's good. Anything else? 1023 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,960 Yeah, I would also change my transportation mode from the bus 1024 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,720 to the ferry. I knew that going in that you 1025 00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,960 have the options of busing or you can take a bus to the ferry, 1026 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,800 or I'm sorry, a ferry to a bus later on. 1027 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,480 I knew that option existed, but because I was in an earlier 1028 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,000 wave, I chose to just do the bus, whereas I knew the ferry 1029 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,840 was going to be a lot more scenic. 1030 00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:24,360 And I feel like, I mean, I'm going to run this race again and 1031 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,080 I'm still not going to try to win it. 1032 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,160 So why not take the scenic round and see the Statue of Liberty 1033 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,400 and all that? Yeah, that's kind of cool. 1034 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,920 I mean, it just starts near the water and Manhattan's an island, 1035 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,400 so getting to the ferry shouldn't be too difficult. 1036 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,040 And it doesn't take that much longer, maybe 30 minutes. 1037 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,480 We took a bus that was so early and then we had so much time in 1038 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,360 the village that we could have just done that and it would have 1039 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,160 been. That's kind of cool. 1040 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,120 I didn't even know they had that. 1041 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,560 Yeah, So what else? Well, not particularly to the 1042 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,240 New York City Marathon, but you know, the whole food thing. 1043 00:52:57,240 --> 00:53:00,880 Next time I'm going to do what my neighbor Sandrine does, which 1044 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,840 she travels with food, which I've made fun of you before, 1045 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,840 Sandrine, but. Now I know better and now I even 1046 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,160 asked. Her Who's laughing now? 1047 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,120 Look who's. Laughing now and tell me what 1048 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,800 kind of rice you travel with. She brings rice pouches. 1049 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,600 That's that's probably not a bad idea, actually. 1050 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,760 Yeah, it's. Actually the smartest. 1051 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,240 Thing. I think that's actually it is a 1052 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:21,680 good idea. I don't think we've ever talked 1053 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,800 about that before. But Sangerine, that's a good 1054 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,640 idea. If you especially if it's 1055 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,840 something that's important, you know, like if you wanna do a 1056 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,120 race, it's really important to you. 1057 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,880 You don't want anything to be messed up. 1058 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,920 You know, having this stable food that you're used to from 1059 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,200 the. You know, places that you've 1060 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:42,040 been eating already definitely would minimize any upset stomach 1061 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,680 or things. Yeah, and I thought, maybe, you 1062 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,960 know, that's a good idea for the races that you really take 1063 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,080 serious because you want to PR. But even just to not get food 1064 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,680 poisoning or have something that could completely rattle your 1065 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,360 experience, you know, I'm not buying those. 1066 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,480 I'm going to be buying these rice pouches, Ryan. 1067 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,400 So what else? And then the last tip or thing 1068 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,480 that I would keep the way I had is to look up events for the 1069 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,640 marathon weekend on Eventbrite. They had a ton of stuff going 1070 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,360 on. Unfortunately, I missed out on 1071 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:16,920 all of Saturday and then most of Sunday evening because of my 1072 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,360 physical condition of being sick. 1073 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,880 But yeah, there was a lot of stuff happening that I wish I 1074 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,480 could have enjoyed. Because of your runs. 1075 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,560 Because I got the runs. Any final words? 1076 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,440 Final words. If you ran New York, 1077 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,520 congratulations. And tell us about your 1078 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,720 experience. Yes, Tag is in your posts. 1079 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:41,040 If you're still posting, I'll probably still be posting about 1080 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,600 this race, probably for not as long as I wish, because my 1081 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,480 footage stopped abruptly at mile 14. 1082 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,000 I think I took one picture going out of a toilet. 1083 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,560 But I just, you know, you know, I was wearing that little camera 1084 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,400 in my head. Yeah. 1085 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:03,040 But then after that, I was just in a really bad headspace where 1086 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,600 you don't want to be, you know? Yeah, understandable. 1087 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,280 I didn't take any pictures after the race either. 1088 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,560 I didn't have any pictures with the medal. 1089 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,480 I actually almost missed getting a medal because I was wheeled 1090 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,880 into the medical tent and when I was collecting my bag I realized 1091 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,600 I didn't get a medal so I had to go back and. 1092 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,560 Oh, you almost didn't get it. Met her at all. 1093 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,800 Yeah, I forgot. I mean, I wasn't, you know, so. 1094 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,120 But it's all good and it's all positive vibes. 1095 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,080 We can all have a better. Better. 1096 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,200 Run and. You're beeping that out too. 1097 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,240 Yeah, all. Right, so. 1098 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,480 So with that, stay tuned for next week. 1099 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,960 Next week we are going to have another guest on. 1100 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,400 We're going to be talking to Brody Sharp. 1101 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,880 I'm excited about that. You had Brodie Sharp on a long a 1102 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,880 long time ago. He's a physical therapist, 1103 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,840 right? Yes, Brodie Sharp is the 1104 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,280 physical therapist and. Well, I, you know as a physician 1105 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,440 you know a lot of the stuff he said it did make a lot of sense 1106 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,840 and seemed to go along with the research and stuff. 1107 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,800 So, so that I like, I like it, you know when people. 1108 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,720 Are educated and they look at the new things that come up and 1109 00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:14,080 actually stay informed and I think that's the best people to 1110 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,560 listen to. So hopefully that's some good 1111 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,440 stuff for us. It will be so with that. 1112 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:24,760 Have a good week of running. Thanks for tuning in. 1113 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,880 For more information and marathon running news, please 1114 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,760 head to www.marathonrunningpodcast.com 1115 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,560 and we'll be back next week.