1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,480 You're listening to episode 173 of the Marathon Running Podcast. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,360 In this episode, we're going to learn all about running shoes. 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,800 This is the Marathon Running podcast by Letty and Ryan from 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,560 We Got The Runs. Join us in our running community 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,200 for weekly content that is motivational, educational and 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,560 inspirational. And let the Marathon running 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,440 podcast take you from the starting line to the finish line 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:38,880 and beyond. Hey runners and welcome to 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,720 episode 173. My name is Letty. 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,160 My name is right and we are your hosts. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,840 Welcome back if you are a longtime listener. 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,560 And if you're new here, you've been missing out. 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,120 That's right. We do this every week and we do 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,520 have quite some fun episodes. We do bring on coaches. 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,680 We bring on. Other coaches of nutrition. 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,440 And you talk about books, you talk about race recaps, and 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,600 sometimes I try to keep you on track and sometimes you distract 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,520 me, just like now. Yes. 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,840 So today we're gonna talk about shoes and how the color of your 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,040 shoes affects your running speed. 21 00:01:13,580 --> 00:01:16,220 I actually think that's one of those mental things. 22 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:20,420 And it might work because my alpha flies are always very 23 00:01:20,420 --> 00:01:22,980 bright and fast, like orange and red. 24 00:01:23,380 --> 00:01:25,020 But no, we're not going to talk about that. 25 00:01:25,020 --> 00:01:26,340 The mental part of running shoes. 26 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:29,340 We are going to talk about running shoes, how to shop for 27 00:01:29,340 --> 00:01:31,180 running shoes. We're going to talk about your 28 00:01:31,180 --> 00:01:33,820 gait and different things that come into play. 29 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:37,500 When it comes to figuring out what shoes you should wear, 30 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:40,100 there's different types of running shoes also. 31 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:42,910 We're going to talk about shoes that you can use for different 32 00:01:42,910 --> 00:01:45,350 types of workouts, for your long runs, for your everyday 33 00:01:45,350 --> 00:01:47,470 trainers, for your temper runs, etc. 34 00:01:48,150 --> 00:01:51,430 And we're also going to talk about the longevity of running 35 00:01:51,430 --> 00:01:53,590 shoes. And the bonus question is 36 00:01:53,590 --> 00:01:56,790 whether or not you should throw your running shoes into the 37 00:01:56,790 --> 00:01:59,590 washing machine, which is something that it's a habit that 38 00:01:59,590 --> 00:02:01,830 I do. Once a week, my shoes go into 39 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:04,790 the washing machine. I'm interested to know like what 40 00:02:04,790 --> 00:02:09,550 the thought is on the like how long to use the shoes or like 41 00:02:09,550 --> 00:02:11,550 you say how many shoes in a rotation. 42 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:13,720 I think some of that's a little bit arbitrary. 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,440 I mean they I wonder if there's any scientific data behind it. 44 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:20,560 Plus, it might be just fun just to get new shoes. 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,000 Make it. Keep it motivated, Yeah, And 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,600 spoiler alert, you don't really realize how old your shoe is 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,400 until you get the exact same shoe in a new version and then 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,200 compare them next to each other. Yeah, no doubt they feel 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,280 different and especially. Even over short periods of time 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,240 they can wear in and the the materials can wear down, but I 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,160 wonder how much functionally that actually changes. 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,400 It does definitely has a feel to it, though. 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,720 There's some. I guess we'll find out, huh? 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Yeah. And the funnest part about this 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,560 episode is that I talked to Carlos the runner about it. 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Do you follow him? I don't, but I remember you're 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,360 telling me about him, so I should definitely. 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,520 You want to get into it? Sure. 59 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,800 So without any further ado, I'm now going to play my 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,680 conversation with Carlos, the runner. 61 00:03:08,660 --> 00:03:11,220 All right, so I'm on here with Carlos the runner. 62 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:13,740 Carlos, thank you so much for joining me. 63 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:18,420 Thank you for inviting me. Yay, of course. 64 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:21,620 So Carlos, you've gone viral on the Internet. 65 00:03:21,620 --> 00:03:23,820 We're going to talk about you a little bit 1st, and then we're 66 00:03:23,820 --> 00:03:26,900 going to roll into the surprising fact that you're a 67 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:29,540 shoe expert. So maybe you can share a little 68 00:03:29,540 --> 00:03:32,300 bit about your journey, who you are, what you do, yeah. 69 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:33,460 OK, Yeah. Well. 70 00:03:34,270 --> 00:03:39,790 So it all started almost 11 years ago. 71 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:45,510 Then I was a little overweight, like more than now now. 72 00:03:45,950 --> 00:03:50,510 So really heavy. And I had like back like lower 73 00:03:50,510 --> 00:03:52,990 back issues. It was pretty bad. 74 00:03:52,990 --> 00:03:58,510 So I my one of my brothers. He's a physical therapist. 75 00:03:58,990 --> 00:04:02,630 And he and I asked him for advice and he said, well, one of 76 00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:05,630 the main things, Carlos, it's probably going to hurt you to 77 00:04:05,630 --> 00:04:07,390 hear this, but you're going to lose weight. 78 00:04:07,870 --> 00:04:12,230 And the next thing is, yeah, just exercise. 79 00:04:12,230 --> 00:04:14,230 You know, you have to do, be more active. 80 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:18,990 So I said, what about running? I mean, I like running. 81 00:04:18,990 --> 00:04:21,829 So is that good? It's like he said, Well, yeah, 82 00:04:21,829 --> 00:04:26,390 as long as you know it's not. Not in a negative way or hurting 83 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:27,550 you or whatever. It's like no. 84 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:31,710 So I started running on the treadmill and it escalated from 85 00:04:31,710 --> 00:04:35,830 a 5K on the treadmill to outside, going outside, running 86 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:40,390 5K and but just not race. It's just outside but on my own. 87 00:04:40,750 --> 00:04:43,710 And then ten KS and then one day it's like I'm just going to go 88 00:04:43,710 --> 00:04:47,510 and run a half marathon and that's that's what I did. 89 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:51,310 It took me like 2 years to go to an actual race. 90 00:04:52,460 --> 00:04:56,540 To meet people actually too, like I was very like a very 91 00:04:56,540 --> 00:04:59,420 long, like a like a lonely runner. 92 00:04:59,420 --> 00:05:01,780 Like I didn't have any friends or anything. 93 00:05:01,780 --> 00:05:05,260 Like I was just, it was just me and I was having the best time. 94 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:10,540 And even then I was like pretty hardcore on the sexy pace thing 95 00:05:10,580 --> 00:05:17,380 that I always preach about. So and then yeah, so I started. 96 00:05:18,810 --> 00:05:22,770 There was a group on Facebook that it was about all about run 97 00:05:22,770 --> 00:05:26,570 fees, you know, like like selfies or runners. 98 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:31,130 And I I always wanted to come up with something more original. 99 00:05:31,130 --> 00:05:35,450 So I started creating all these pictures with mainly dinosaurs 100 00:05:35,770 --> 00:05:39,730 chasing me. So that's the thing that, you 101 00:05:39,730 --> 00:05:43,130 know, like people, it got paid, paid attention to. 102 00:05:43,570 --> 00:05:48,170 So I started then on Instagram after a few years. 103 00:05:48,940 --> 00:05:51,580 And that's what I was doing. And then I started doing 104 00:05:51,580 --> 00:05:55,020 pictures for other runners. And that's how I got connected 105 00:05:55,020 --> 00:05:58,900 to the running community like all everybody started knowing, 106 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:02,700 oh, that's the dinosaur guy. And then I started doing memes. 107 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:06,260 And you know, the rest is kind of history. 108 00:06:06,260 --> 00:06:08,900 Like everything else that I've done, like you said, it's kind 109 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:13,570 of like it grew by itself. So yeah, that's cool because I 110 00:06:13,570 --> 00:06:17,410 told you earlier, before we started recording, that you're 111 00:06:17,410 --> 00:06:19,610 one of the few Instagram accounts that I definitely 112 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:22,770 recommend that people follow, just because it's always super 113 00:06:22,770 --> 00:06:25,370 entertaining. So tell us maybe a little bit 114 00:06:26,010 --> 00:06:28,850 how you discovered that you actually have a talent for it 115 00:06:28,850 --> 00:06:31,370 and your sense of humor. How do you come up with these 116 00:06:31,370 --> 00:06:35,490 memes? That's a weird thing to think 117 00:06:35,490 --> 00:06:41,930 about, because it's like. I guess in my case I'm always a 118 00:06:42,450 --> 00:06:46,690 very creative person and I every day I have to do something 119 00:06:46,810 --> 00:06:50,210 creative, something different, something unique, something you 120 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:53,890 know, that will, you know, like stimulate my brain, my mind. 121 00:06:54,730 --> 00:06:59,450 And I end up doing those things like I just you know, like I is. 122 00:06:59,450 --> 00:07:02,450 And also one of the main things is with the memes. 123 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,120 I always the main, the main question that I do to myself 124 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,960 after posting a meme is is this going to be relatable to 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,720 everybody? If it is, you know, I'll post it 126 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,960 and that's that's pretty much how it's made. 127 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,240 Now I've got I got to a point where my friends, my wife, they 128 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,800 will send me pictures of things and it's like, oh, you should do 129 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,920 a meme about this. So now I I do that. 130 00:07:30,340 --> 00:07:33,540 I do requests from my friends and family. 131 00:07:34,180 --> 00:07:36,580 That's good to know. I'm gonna start sending requests 132 00:07:36,580 --> 00:07:38,500 your way. But I want to kind of go back to 133 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:42,260 what you said earlier about things being relatable, because 134 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:46,260 I feel like that is exactly how you touch so many lives, because 135 00:07:46,260 --> 00:07:49,060 people are afraid to kind of make fun of themselves, whereas 136 00:07:49,060 --> 00:07:51,780 yours are just, you know, they're just out there and 137 00:07:51,780 --> 00:07:53,940 people laugh out loud when they see them. 138 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:57,660 Yeah, it's, I mean, I mean in my case, I'll say it's the. 139 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,000 I'm just, you know, I'm, I'm being honest. 140 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,320 I'm being transparent. Like the way that you see you 141 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,440 meet me in real life is what you get there on the, on the, on the 142 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,920 feed, on the Instagram posts and everything. 143 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,880 I'm like that. I'm not like, you know, like 144 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,040 it's not a persona. It's just how I do things 145 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,520 before, even before running, I was like that. 146 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,610 So, yeah, yeah. So, you know, I'm looking 147 00:08:27,610 --> 00:08:30,410 forward actually to hopefully meet you in person one day. 148 00:08:31,170 --> 00:08:33,610 All right. So Carlos, I was surprised to 149 00:08:33,610 --> 00:08:37,929 hear that you are also a shoe expert because we don't really 150 00:08:37,929 --> 00:08:41,450 realize that we all know you love Hocus, but we didn't know 151 00:08:41,450 --> 00:08:43,330 that you work in the shoe business. 152 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:47,610 Yes. So I've been doing that for four 153 00:08:47,610 --> 00:08:49,810 years. How do you like it? 154 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:54,390 I really enjoy it because, you know, especially like, feel like 155 00:08:54,790 --> 00:08:58,950 people don't even realize it's funny because some of my 156 00:08:58,950 --> 00:09:03,150 coworkers, I mean, I'm not gonna be, like, exposing them, but 157 00:09:03,150 --> 00:09:08,430 they're not runners. And the others are like, others 158 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:10,750 are. Like some of the others of my 159 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:14,910 coworkers have been in the business for literally decades. 160 00:09:14,990 --> 00:09:18,630 So they love it like and just like me. 161 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:22,590 I mean, I'm. I enjoy, you know, giving advice 162 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:27,870 or finding the right fit for a runner or somebody that just 163 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:31,310 want to exercise. It's for me, that's just great. 164 00:09:32,340 --> 00:09:35,220 So do you work at a running store then, and do you deal with 165 00:09:35,220 --> 00:09:38,260 people coming in or are you more behind the scenes or what? 166 00:09:38,260 --> 00:09:41,980 Is it exactly what you do so? Yeah, running store and we deal 167 00:09:41,980 --> 00:09:46,460 like sometimes people go by appointment but usually they 168 00:09:46,460 --> 00:09:50,860 already know, like our store is very prestigious, so people will 169 00:09:50,860 --> 00:09:56,310 come say. I I wanted to get fitted and a 170 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:59,030 friend told me to come here because you guys do a great job. 171 00:09:59,030 --> 00:10:01,830 It's like, Yep. So then we do everything from 172 00:10:01,830 --> 00:10:05,280 scratch, you know, everything. And that's so important. 173 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,760 And I feel like, you know, I started running in the mid 174 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,880 2000s, 2004, so. And back then you didn't really 175 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,240 have all these online businesses where you had to really go into 176 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,640 a store and the importance of being fitted and seeing what 177 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,960 kind of gate you have, how important is that really? 178 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Because now the other option is to just get a bunch of stuff 179 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,720 online and just blindly trying out what fits or feels best. 180 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,150 Well, yeah, I'm glad that you. Touch that, that subject because 181 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:39,750 a lot of the people come and they are usually, I will say 182 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:45,270 maybe 8 out of 10 will mention the online thing saying, oh, I 183 00:10:45,270 --> 00:10:48,510 was going to buy the shoe online, but now that I try it 184 00:10:48,510 --> 00:10:53,110 here, it doesn't feel right. It's like, well yes, that's the 185 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:56,150 whole point of getting fitted because you're here with a 186 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:59,590 person that just by looking at your feet, your gait. 187 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:04,800 I'm getting all the basic information from your personal 188 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,240 background will determine what you will fit better for you. 189 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,960 It's that's a whole different thing than just going online and 190 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,680 seeing something pretty and oh, let me click it and it'll be at 191 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:19,680 home in two days. I mean, it's kind of like online 192 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:22,440 dating, right? So you pick the person you want 193 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,840 to date and they look all good on paper and then you just don't 194 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,920 have that chemistry and something isn't working right. 195 00:11:28,590 --> 00:11:32,950 This, This is why the meme that meme, you know, it's very like 196 00:11:33,390 --> 00:11:37,110 the like eye opener, the one that I don't know if you've seen 197 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:42,110 it, the one that says what I ordered versus what I got, I 198 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:45,030 haven't seen that. 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Run SWAG. 210 00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:35,150 There's something for every runner, so we kind of touched on 211 00:12:35,150 --> 00:12:39,390 it a little bit, but maybe walk us through how somebody is 212 00:12:39,390 --> 00:12:41,430 fitted. Do you make them run? 213 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:43,430 Do you make them walk? What are you looking for when 214 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:45,430 you're looking at somebody trying on shoes? 215 00:12:46,420 --> 00:12:50,140 So yeah, well, the the oldfashioned way was like people 216 00:12:50,140 --> 00:12:54,740 will have a treadmill and they will see them running to a point 217 00:12:54,740 --> 00:12:57,820 that it will just record them and look at the gate. 218 00:12:57,820 --> 00:13:00,740 Like that's for us. It's sort of like ancient 219 00:13:00,740 --> 00:13:03,460 history. Now we have a machine like the 220 00:13:03,460 --> 00:13:06,140 one that we have at work. It's called Volumental. 221 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:10,440 So it's the 3D scan. So whenever you're stepping on 222 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,640 it, it will show everything you know, like your arches, your 223 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,400 heel with your inkstep height, everything. 224 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,440 And then you from a certain perspective, you can see if 225 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,000 somebody's either an overpreneator or a supinator. 226 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,840 And then if you are like, you know, like, Oh well, it's a 227 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,720 machine. Maybe I shouldn't trust it a lot 228 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,700 so. You can just ask the person not 229 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:40,100 to run, just walk. And with that it's like it's 230 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:42,740 definitive. Like, you can actually say, oh, 231 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:47,100 they need this particular shoe, or they could do better with 232 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:50,100 this other one, or motion control, etc, etc. 233 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:52,900 Wow. So there's I remember there's 234 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:56,500 stability, there's pronating. What? 235 00:13:56,500 --> 00:14:00,300 So what other types of shoes are there that somebody may need? 236 00:14:00,780 --> 00:14:05,860 OK, so this is one thing I hope. I explain it in a very good way 237 00:14:05,860 --> 00:14:08,660 so people can understand, because that's one thing that 238 00:14:08,660 --> 00:14:11,900 whenever people come into the store, they don't know, like 239 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:14,300 they have no clue about any of this. 240 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:18,900 I only divide them in two. Well, there's there should be 241 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:23,060 three types, but mainly basically we'll call it like 242 00:14:23,060 --> 00:14:28,340 black and white which is. Neutral will be the white and 243 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:31,660 stability the black. So neutral. 244 00:14:31,660 --> 00:14:35,620 A neutral person usually needs a like, well, neutral shoe. 245 00:14:36,020 --> 00:14:42,020 Consists only on support and in the sense of cushion. 246 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:44,980 That's it. Like there's nothing else to it. 247 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:50,460 And your since your foot it's in a in a good position, it's not 248 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:53,300 over pernet or over perneating or supinating. 249 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:59,020 You just have a shoe that lets you run, let's say freely. 250 00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:03,700 But the stability one, it's a motion control shoe that will 251 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:06,980 hold. Your foot on the sides it it 252 00:15:06,980 --> 00:15:11,340 will come with either guy rails or a support an artificial arch 253 00:15:11,460 --> 00:15:16,300 underneath. It also has like a shell and 254 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:18,380 like a little shell in the shell in the back. 255 00:15:18,740 --> 00:15:22,420 So just imagine, just picture two hands holding your foot. 256 00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:26,900 That's kind of like how a stability issue works. 257 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:31,700 Like, once you imagine that, just imagine that your foot's 258 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:35,230 trying to go straight. It will go in One Direction, it 259 00:15:35,230 --> 00:15:40,630 won't go out or in and that's the difference between them. 260 00:15:40,630 --> 00:15:45,270 So I, you know I I mentioned a third one which is a stability 261 00:15:45,270 --> 00:15:47,990 neutral which is a shoe that has half and half. 262 00:15:48,510 --> 00:15:54,950 So it's a very mild stability in it and I can you know I can tell 263 00:15:54,950 --> 00:15:59,070 you there's a certain just a couple of them that has that. 264 00:15:59,470 --> 00:16:04,020 So that's pretty much it. OK. 265 00:16:04,020 --> 00:16:05,660 And so, yeah, I didn't know any of this. 266 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:08,940 So the person that has high arches, or the person that 267 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:13,460 pronates are those the ones that need to have a stability shoe, 268 00:16:13,460 --> 00:16:16,020 or who in general goes into a stability shoe. 269 00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:19,220 So, OK, that's another really great question. 270 00:16:19,220 --> 00:16:25,900 So The thing is that it's very complex and it's just not like 271 00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:28,940 oh, if you have a high arch you need this, if you have a lower 272 00:16:28,940 --> 00:16:32,580 arch, you need that. Because sometimes to with us at 273 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:36,790 the store. People will come and have a very 274 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:44,190 low arch or flat foot as they call it, and they have a Nope 275 00:16:44,190 --> 00:16:48,590 overpination and no supination. So there's no need for 276 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:51,390 stability, there's no need for motion control. 277 00:16:51,830 --> 00:16:56,070 So you try to find a shoe that has no art support in it. 278 00:16:56,370 --> 00:17:00,610 So that's very important because usually people automatic 279 00:17:00,890 --> 00:17:04,730 automatically things, oh they they have a flat foot, they need 280 00:17:04,730 --> 00:17:07,650 an issue with stability and that's incorrect. 281 00:17:08,010 --> 00:17:11,970 So in the case what you just mentioned, a high arch, actually 282 00:17:11,970 --> 00:17:17,290 what it needs is pretty much arch support and cushioning. 283 00:17:18,050 --> 00:17:23,839 Usually, they don't tend to. Over printed or supinate, but if 284 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:28,440 you're supinating also a lot of cushion on the heel. 285 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,600 So all of those factors you have to take in consideration and not 286 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,360 just that, but the person, the miles that they're going to be 287 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:43,420 doing. Their whole, you know, habits as 288 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:45,860 a runner. So it's it's a little more 289 00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:49,940 complex than just saying this shoe fits to you because you 290 00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:52,220 have a high arch. That's it. 291 00:17:52,660 --> 00:17:56,620 So hey, they like a good example that you just mentioned. 292 00:17:56,620 --> 00:18:00,500 Hoka, a good example of a shoe that has a lot of art support 293 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,380 for people with high arches is the Clifton 9:00. 294 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:08,700 So that shoe could work for me. But let's say you have a high 295 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:13,020 arch too, and you try it and you feel like it's not working. 296 00:18:13,060 --> 00:18:15,660 So it could be for different factors. 297 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:21,300 Maybe you're you have a narrow foot and the shoe is pretty kind 298 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,260 of like flexible and wider and you don't like it. 299 00:18:24,260 --> 00:18:28,140 So a shoe that works for me, not it won't necessarily work out 300 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:31,260 for you. OK, So that just makes it a 301 00:18:31,260 --> 00:18:34,660 little bit more complicated. And knowing all that, I wish 302 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:38,350 when we looked for shoes or even shop for them online, you could 303 00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:43,030 kind of sort them not by price or brand but by whatever they 304 00:18:43,030 --> 00:18:46,310 offer. But that given, does it happen 305 00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:51,910 that our brands known for certain types of shoes or do 306 00:18:51,910 --> 00:18:54,390 they basically have one for every runner out there. 307 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:57,510 So in other words, if Hoka makes shoes, are they kind of going 308 00:18:57,510 --> 00:19:01,590 for the people with the wider feet, high arches, or do they 309 00:19:01,590 --> 00:19:05,590 have several different shoes that can go with one person? 310 00:19:06,550 --> 00:19:12,350 I would say that all brands work with everybody's like kind of 311 00:19:12,790 --> 00:19:19,910 feed and you know like the the kind of the way they they are, 312 00:19:19,910 --> 00:19:24,230 the way they they look like what you were just saying about 313 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:29,190 hookah like yeah they tend to be a little more like on the wider 314 00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:34,470 tailbox kind of based but. They used to be, they used to 315 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:36,790 have like this, the talking about the Clifton. 316 00:19:36,790 --> 00:19:39,510 It used to be a shoe that was a little more narrow. 317 00:19:40,030 --> 00:19:44,670 But lately I feel like all of them are pretty wide. 318 00:19:45,070 --> 00:19:50,710 But yeah, I mean, to be completely honest, I'll say the 319 00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:54,830 only one that's very specific about that, about the width, it 320 00:19:54,830 --> 00:19:59,840 has to be a shoe like Ultra. That they have a special like 321 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,080 very white toolbox because of this zero drop. 322 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,880 But other than that, everybody, it's kind of like working around 323 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,520 people's feet. Great. 324 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,600 So that makes shopping a little bit more complicated. 325 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,640 So the best thing would be to go into a store and get fitted and 326 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,360 then kind of just try out the brands. 327 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Yeah, well yeah, I will say yeah, that's one of the main 328 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,120 things is what you just said. It's better to get advised to do 329 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:34,320 your, yeah, do your own research. 330 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,720 That's important. Look into a lot of reviews and 331 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:45,920 things and don't let just be like if somebody's talking great 332 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,760 things about a shoe. Don't, don't get influenced by 333 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,120 the buy it and say oh so and so said it was the great so the 334 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:57,240 greatest shoe. So I'm going to buy that, go to 335 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,880 the store and then ask them what about the shoe, do you think it 336 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,160 will fit me, it will be good for me and then you know that will 337 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,440 start the whole process. But yeah, I will definitely 338 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,760 recommend for people to to be a little more concerned about what 339 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,220 they're going to be wearing before buying unless they have a 340 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:20,620 really good shoe return policy. You know, it's kind of like with 341 00:21:20,620 --> 00:21:24,020 the Nike alpha flies. Some people love them and some 342 00:21:24,020 --> 00:21:26,980 people try them out for 20 seconds and they say absolutely 343 00:21:26,980 --> 00:21:28,580 not. It's kind of a preference as 344 00:21:28,580 --> 00:21:30,700 well, right? Yeah, exactly. 345 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:34,540 Like say that shoe that you're talking about it in particular 346 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:40,880 it has a very like specific. Look and fit for a specific kind 347 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,120 of people. So not everybody's going to be 348 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,360 comfortable in it. Not everybody's going to make it 349 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,680 work. So yeah, just because you see it 350 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,480 in races or you see it on your feet on Instagram and you see 351 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,840 like slow mo videos, reels of people working like hard in 352 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,560 them, doesn't mean that. Oh yeah, maybe I should get that 353 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,280 shoe and I'm going to be fast. Don't do that. 354 00:22:05,530 --> 00:22:08,690 Absolutely. All right, so let's move on to 355 00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:11,330 the topic of sure rotation and longevity. 356 00:22:11,610 --> 00:22:14,690 How many pairs of running shoes should have, run or have so 357 00:22:14,690 --> 00:22:16,730 without you're giving us permission to go buy more? 358 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:20,050 And then also why is she rotation so important? 359 00:22:21,130 --> 00:22:24,570 All right, so that's actually something really good, a really 360 00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:28,090 good question and a good way to give people advice on it. 361 00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:32,290 I might not be the best one for that because I have way too many 362 00:22:32,290 --> 00:22:35,130 shoes. A lot of them. 363 00:22:35,290 --> 00:22:41,690 So, but yeah, it's like and but one thing that I can say it's 364 00:22:41,690 --> 00:22:43,690 never enough. It's fine if you have. 365 00:22:45,410 --> 00:22:49,130 It's better to have more than one than just having one. 366 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:53,110 That's, that's key. Like I see a lot of people 367 00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:57,310 coming into the store that they have a shoe for literally 368 00:22:57,430 --> 00:23:02,470 everything, not for just running, for going out for, you 369 00:23:02,510 --> 00:23:06,790 know, like doing for work for everything and running. 370 00:23:06,790 --> 00:23:09,910 And it's like, no, that's not how it works. 371 00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:12,750 Don't do that. And and I'm going to tell you 372 00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:17,830 like the basic idea of how why having two pairs is good. 373 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:24,530 The main idea is that when people see shoes, they need to 374 00:23:24,530 --> 00:23:28,930 picture it as like whenever you go to bed, you know, like the 375 00:23:28,930 --> 00:23:31,410 mattress. Whenever you're you're laying 376 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:35,010 down on the mattress for 8 hours, you know what happens 377 00:23:35,010 --> 00:23:35,730 with it. Like it. 378 00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:40,850 It's kind of like goes down, like the the coils all work in a 379 00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:42,810 way that will be comforting for you. 380 00:23:42,850 --> 00:23:46,160 That's the same way. A shoe works when you put it on 381 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,920 your feet, like and whenever you put the shoe on your foot, it's 382 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,240 the the cushion it's working with the with the body. 383 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,160 So whenever you're done with it, that cushion needs recovery. 384 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,600 So usually they say they recommend that for a shoe you 385 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,880 need to at least give it a day for it to, you know, get back to 386 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,600 like you know the way it was. So having two pairs. 387 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,680 You know, that gives you that that advantage having three 388 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,480 pairs, you know, and so on, so on. 389 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,800 So that's that's a great, great advantage. 390 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,160 And I can, you know, I can be. I can tell you from my own 391 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,320 experience that sometimes there's a shoe that I haven't 392 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,200 used in a while and just put it on, it's like, Oh my God, this 393 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,960 feels like brand new. I love it so. 394 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,680 It is. It is the best, one of the best 395 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,440 things that you can do to avoid injuries. 396 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000 I like that, yeah. And then obviously also we have 397 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,600 specific shoes that go with specific workouts. 398 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,920 Your long easy paced runs, probably you wouldn't run in the 399 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,000 same shoe as you would your speed workout. 400 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Never exactly. That's also, yeah that's that's 401 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,520 a great thing that you just mentioned there because. 402 00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:13,460 So this I I can give you an example and I feel bad because 403 00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:15,940 people is going to hear this and some of them are going to be 404 00:25:15,940 --> 00:25:19,980 really sad about it. But it's it's the reality of 405 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:23,020 things people. So please work with me on this. 406 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,980 So last year I did the Chicago Marathon. 407 00:25:27,380 --> 00:25:29,780 I was running the Carbon X3 from Hoka. 408 00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:35,180 And you know, that shoe is pretty much the shoe that you 409 00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:37,700 were supposed to wear for that. You know, like that's the shoe 410 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:42,120 made for that. While I was there, I I, you know 411 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,080 being in the business that I'm in, I I can't just, it's just a 412 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,200 pet peeve. I have to look at people's shoes 413 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,760 and one of the guys that I saw was wearing the Mach 5. 414 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,880 So the Mach 5, let me tell you a little bit about that shoe. 415 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,240 It's from hookah. It's an up tempo shoe. 416 00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:04,650 The durability, it's way less than a daily trainer. 417 00:26:04,970 --> 00:26:08,930 So you're going to run a 5 mile or seven mile or a, you know, 418 00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:13,290 like a fast pace, tempo, pace or you can do a half marathon. 419 00:26:13,610 --> 00:26:16,170 That's it. But if you're going to be doing 420 00:26:17,290 --> 00:26:21,290 a full marathon in that shoe, I'm sorry, but you know, you 421 00:26:21,290 --> 00:26:24,330 have my blessing. Like I don't, I don't know 422 00:26:24,330 --> 00:26:27,170 what's going to happen with those feet, but you're going to 423 00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:29,370 regret it. And the and The funny thing is. 424 00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:34,820 You know, I always thought about that and I saw it, but a 425 00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:39,420 customer came into the store and we talked about that and this 426 00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:44,500 person said, you know what, I actually, I did my marathon in 427 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:50,260 the Mach 5 and Oh my, my, my whole body, like my legs were 428 00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:53,580 killing me after. So there you have it. 429 00:26:53,980 --> 00:26:56,860 So I I have the theory and I had. 430 00:26:57,410 --> 00:27:06,010 The person like the actual, the the experience that somebody 431 00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:08,540 told me about it. So that's definitely good to 432 00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:10,700 know and to keep in mind. And I'm going to throw in 433 00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,540 another question on this topic because this is something I do 434 00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:16,820 and I don't know how bad it is. How bad is it to throw your 435 00:27:16,820 --> 00:27:21,900 shoes into the washer? I run without socks 90% of the 436 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:23,860 time and I know it grosses out some people. 437 00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:27,500 And I live in Florida where once you're done running, it sounds 438 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,420 like you're running in a swamp because everything is wet and I 439 00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:32,860 wash my shoes maybe once a week, I throw them in the washer. 440 00:27:32,860 --> 00:27:37,580 How bad is that for the shoe? Well, you know, that's another 441 00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:40,500 question that we get all the time, all the time. 442 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:42,420 So can you watch this in the Watcher? 443 00:27:42,420 --> 00:27:47,620 I was like, well, I would say that's pretty much up to you. 444 00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:51,820 Like if you want to do that. And it's like, I mean, I think I 445 00:27:51,820 --> 00:27:55,820 did that once and nothing happened to my shoes. 446 00:27:55,820 --> 00:27:58,500 But I wouldn't do it. Like I said, you know, like a 447 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,940 normal occurrence like, oh, I'm just going to do it every other 448 00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:03,980 week. Like, no. 449 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,800 That's like, once in a while maybe if you think you're 450 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,160 they're super dirty, like they're all covering mud or 451 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,720 something, like maybe. But like, just for like, oh, 452 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,320 every every Sunday morning I'm going to go to, you know, like 453 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,040 and do this. And now that's not going to 454 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,240 work. I'll try to stop that habit from 455 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,520 continuing. Yeah, yeah. 456 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:33,430 All right, so let's talk about shoe longevity. 457 00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:36,870 There is this rule out there, and I'm always a big skeptic 458 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:38,990 when it comes to rules. When people say, oh, you can 459 00:28:38,990 --> 00:28:43,710 only run 202 hundred miles in these shoes, or 400 miles, 460 00:28:43,910 --> 00:28:47,430 usually I kind of literally run them into the ground to I'm 461 00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:50,670 running on the foam and then I get a new pair because they 462 00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:53,950 still feel OK What's the rule and why? 463 00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:59,200 This is the thing. It's a little complex to be 464 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,360 honest like say depending on the shoe and the the type of shoe 465 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,000 that you use and say like a daily trainer most likely will 466 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,200 last around 500 to 600 miles that's that's that's it like in 467 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:19,120 every brand no matter what the like the the Super trainers 468 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800 might might be a little more maybe. 469 00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:25,220 But the Super shoes, like the one you mentioned, like the 470 00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:33,580 alpha fly, like the Rocket X2, like the paper fly, like just 471 00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:37,300 thinking of the top of my head, Saucony, endorphin, elite, all 472 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:43,020 of those shoes have a very limited lifespan, probably 250 473 00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:44,900 miles, 300 miles. That's it. 474 00:29:46,530 --> 00:29:50,010 So, and a lot of people is like like what you just said, like 475 00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:53,650 you like, oh, but I feel fine in that, like I don't have a 476 00:29:53,650 --> 00:29:57,850 problem with it. The issue with it is that some 477 00:29:57,850 --> 00:30:00,850 of them, like in the case of the Super shoes they have, they come 478 00:30:00,930 --> 00:30:05,770 either with a carbon fiber plate or pivo foam or pivax plate. 479 00:30:06,130 --> 00:30:12,570 All of that will be worn out at that moment and after that it 480 00:30:12,570 --> 00:30:14,690 will lose its power. It's like. 481 00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:20,460 You don't want to wear that for you know, like a like on race 482 00:30:20,460 --> 00:30:25,420 day like for that and then the other one, the daily trainers. 483 00:30:25,660 --> 00:30:28,540 In the case that you were just mentioning in like in your case 484 00:30:28,540 --> 00:30:33,060 you feel fine and all that. A good way to know that even 485 00:30:33,060 --> 00:30:38,780 that you already hit 600 miles and you feel nothing, it's just 486 00:30:38,780 --> 00:30:44,040 grab the shoe, try to bend it. And if it bends like a sandal or 487 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,200 something like super easy, that means it's got to go. 488 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,240 It's got to go because it's not firm enough. 489 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,440 It's not giving you that support that you need. 490 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,760 So that's one of the thing. The other thing is you can feel 491 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000 it. You can feel in your foot like 492 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,000 if it's kind of firm or you don't feel the same 493 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,080 responsiveness or the best way. The best way to to test it just 494 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,380 go to the store. Get, try, try. 495 00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:15,380 Don't, don't even buy a new pair of shoes. 496 00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:17,020 Just go and say, hey, can I get it? 497 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:19,340 Can I try this? The same shoe that you're 498 00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:23,860 wearing but new and you'll be like, Oh my God, yeah, I need 499 00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:26,860 new shoes. So that's because I that's the 500 00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:28,820 expression of people. Every time they go, it's like, 501 00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:33,220 Oh my God, this feels so great, Like, well, yes, it's new. 502 00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:36,800 So there you go. That's great advice. 503 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,560 Yeah. No, I mean, you're right. 504 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,760 We probably don't realize how much better a fresh shoe would 505 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,160 feel until we wear it. And obviously, when we're 506 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,640 training for a marathon, we should strive to not get injured 507 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,360 during this training cycle. So again, you've given us 508 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,040 permission to buy more shoes with that. 509 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,720 Yeah. Oh, and you know, the other 510 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,800 thing is I feel like the the emotional attachment. 511 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,140 Some people have two shoes. It's crazy. 512 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:09,700 Going back to what I said about the Chicago Marathon. 513 00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:14,580 I saw somebody with the with shoes that I swear they look 514 00:32:14,580 --> 00:32:18,340 like they were like probably 5 years old. 515 00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:22,660 And I was like oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. 516 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:28,620 This is not happening for you for a little, you know, feet of 517 00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:30,620 yours. Like they're going to suffer. 518 00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:34,360 Like that's not even. That shouldn't be legal. 519 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,360 That is why, yeah, mine all look newer because they throw them in 520 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,640 the washer so much. But you know, with me it's also 521 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960 that attachment. It's almost like you spent so 522 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,000 much time with them. It's like that boyfriend that 523 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,500 you just can't dump. So after a while you turn them 524 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,260 into lawn mowing shoes and then they turn green. 525 00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:54,020 And then finally, I always ask my husband, I'm like, can you 526 00:32:54,020 --> 00:32:56,100 please throw them in the trash when I'm not watching? 527 00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,340 Because for some reason there's this attachment and you know, 528 00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:01,740 you have your pretty shoe collection and then there's just 529 00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:06,020 less and less of that there. Yeah and then sometimes people 530 00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:10,580 we have the the option in our store to donate the shoes and I 531 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:14,540 I'm very strong about that. I'm like they will say something 532 00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:16,900 like Oh yeah I can use them for your artwork like. 533 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:21,020 No, no, no, no, no. This is over, this relationship. 534 00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:26,580 Please say goodbye to your shoes today and then you can see their 535 00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:29,900 eyes heartbroken. But it's like you need to do 536 00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:31,700 this. Like just, you know. 537 00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:37,330 Unattached, please. Just I love the donating option. 538 00:33:37,330 --> 00:33:40,090 But you know, I feel like you can't donate the shoes anymore 539 00:33:40,090 --> 00:33:42,930 when you can't see the rubber on the bottoms and you're on the 540 00:33:42,930 --> 00:33:45,170 phone. So that that's another thing 541 00:33:45,170 --> 00:33:46,970 people say, well who's gonna wear this? 542 00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:49,370 It's like not necessarily gonna be wearing them. 543 00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:54,330 We said we donate them and then they will, you know, like shred 544 00:33:54,330 --> 00:33:57,690 them and use them for other things, metallic recycle and so 545 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,480 oh, I didn't know that. So that's great. 546 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,080 So I'm gonna prepare a bag for next time. 547 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:10,000 Yeah, get read for your yard shoes to, you know, do a good, 548 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,960 like a charity thing there with the donation. 549 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,080 Yeah, absolutely. All right. 550 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,719 My last question, looking at female runners and comparing the 551 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,800 shoe designs that they sometimes have for male versus female, 552 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,360 what can you tell us about that? Is there really that much of a 553 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,800 difference and also doesn't matter? 554 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,360 There is a lot of difference and women shouldn't be wearing men's 555 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,040 shoes. The end. 556 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,360 And I'm just kidding. No, no, no, no. 557 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,760 Actually that's this is the thing. 558 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,960 So my whole what I was, I just said it's because. 559 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:55,080 A lot of people ask that like especially when you when they 560 00:34:55,159 --> 00:35:00,040 they bring out kids like little kids and the best fit for a a 561 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:06,360 little boy, it's usually women's shoes and they're like, oh, but 562 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,240 that's how's that Like is that different? 563 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,120 Yeah it is different. But sometimes the design is like 564 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,680 the very minimal of a difference. 565 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,080 Very sometimes it's. The exact same shoe, but the 566 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,800 women's shoes are usually lighter just by a few oz. 567 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,080 Just a little bit. Some other brands I know, I know 568 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,600 for a fact that a six, I think A6 used to have a shoe for 569 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,720 women's to use based on their period. 570 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,640 So that's very specific. Yeah. 571 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,640 Yeah, I don't remember the name of the shoe, but yeah, it's 572 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,200 something like that. But others like. 573 00:35:48,590 --> 00:35:52,230 Like I said, in general, it's just women's shoes are lighter. 574 00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:54,590 That's it. OK, good. 575 00:35:54,590 --> 00:35:56,990 So now I don't feel so bad about shopping in the men's section 576 00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:59,350 half the time because you know when you like a certain type of 577 00:35:59,350 --> 00:36:03,270 shoe, a lot of times the women colors are different from the 578 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:06,630 guys colors and depending on what it is, you know, you kind 579 00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:09,950 of go for the color. They always go and like, oh, I 580 00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:12,870 really like this one. Like, yeah, that's a men's shoe. 581 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:15,950 Oh, why do you guys always have the best colors? 582 00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:20,080 Like, oh, come on, yeah. That's that mean I will say the 583 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,920 opposite sometimes. I really like women's shoes like 584 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,680 this did the color ways, but you know, interesting. 585 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,480 That's cool. So yeah, thank you Carlos, so 586 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,840 much for coming on. I appreciate your insight. 587 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,480 That was great. Yeah. 588 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160 Well, thank you. And if anybody has any 589 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,920 questions, something a little more complex and then you know 590 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,040 like extended. Version of what we just talked 591 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,200 about. They can't reach out to me. 592 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,440 And I can explain. Perfect. 593 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040 All right, Carlos, thank you so much for coming on. 594 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,560 And for those, well, two listeners that haven't found you 595 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,960 online yet, you're at Carlos the runner. 596 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,960 Yes. Instagram, Facebook and tick 597 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,760 tock. Perfect. 598 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:08,650 Thank you. Thank you Carlos, for coming on. 599 00:37:08,650 --> 00:37:12,730 I had a blast speaking with you. Thank you for your jokes and all 600 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:16,770 your valuable information. And I guess after speaking with 601 00:37:16,770 --> 00:37:20,130 Carlos or Ryan, I now feel like I need to get a ton of more 602 00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:25,650 running shoes. Do we have room for those? 603 00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:28,140 We need to build a new closet. Well, like you said, I should 604 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:31,340 just donate the ones that I don't love anymore. 605 00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:34,780 If I found a place locally that took donated running shoes, 606 00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:37,860 it'll probably also make me feel better because right now you 607 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:40,940 know how it goes. I ask you to put them in the 608 00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:44,220 trash for me so I don't have to do it myself because I feel so 609 00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:46,880 bad. It's like feel so attached to 610 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,640 them. That is true. 611 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,440 You have this, like, big apprehension to actually putting 612 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,040 them in the trash. You're like, you do it. 613 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,360 I'm like, why did you just? Put it in the trash and they are 614 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,360 run to the ground like you can't even see the rubber anymore 615 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,200 you're I'm running on foam guys. So and an old pair of alpha fly 616 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,960 that I've had for probably 600 miles where I'm running on the 617 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,720 air bubble. And every Sunday morning when I 618 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,920 take them out for their very last spin, I'm just waiting to 619 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,060 for the bubble to pop kind of. I want to see what happens. 620 00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:21,140 So maybe I'll regret that we did this podcast. 621 00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:24,100 Maybe just look at the checking account. 622 00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:25,900 Oh, no. All right. 623 00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:28,340 So if you guys are still here listening, thank you so much. 624 00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:31,340 Please leave us a review on whatever platform that you are 625 00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:32,900 listening to us. We appreciate it. 626 00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:35,700 If you like any of this stuff we're talking about, or the 627 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:38,380 effort that I mean to be honest, Letty puts in more than I do 628 00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:41,020 about getting all these interviewees and stuff and 629 00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:44,190 talking about. 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