1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,960 You're listening to episode 178 of the Marathon Running Podcast. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,600 In this episode, we're going to do a race recap of the 2023 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:19,160 Chicago Marathon. This is the Marathon Running 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,760 podcast by Letty and Ryan from We Got The Runs. 5 00:00:22,170 --> 00:00:25,050 Join us in our running community for weekly content that is 6 00:00:25,050 --> 00:00:28,170 motivational, educational and inspirational. 7 00:00:28,330 --> 00:00:30,810 And let the Marathon Running podcast take you from the 8 00:00:30,810 --> 00:00:33,370 starting line to the finish line and beyond. 9 00:00:40,010 --> 00:00:42,850 Hey, runners, and welcome to episode 178. 10 00:00:42,850 --> 00:00:45,370 My name is Letty. My name is right and we are your 11 00:00:45,370 --> 00:00:47,810 host for this episode. This episode is correctly 12 00:00:47,810 --> 00:00:51,210 labeled 178. I realized a couple of days ago 13 00:00:51,210 --> 00:00:54,650 that I labeled last week's episode also 178. 14 00:00:55,450 --> 00:00:57,330 I know, but there is no going back now. 15 00:00:57,330 --> 00:00:59,250 It's out in the air. In the episode last week, we 16 00:00:59,250 --> 00:01:03,250 talked about the Olympic trials that will take place in 2024 in 17 00:01:03,250 --> 00:01:05,530 Orlando and we interviewed the hosts of it. 18 00:01:05,570 --> 00:01:07,890 So if you haven't listened to that episode yet, I encourage 19 00:01:07,890 --> 00:01:11,610 you to listen to There's really great content and it's exciting 20 00:01:11,610 --> 00:01:13,370 in light of all the news that we have. 21 00:01:13,810 --> 00:01:15,690 Can anyone go watch them? Yes. 22 00:01:15,690 --> 00:01:19,050 Anyone that wants to can go watch them is in the streets of 23 00:01:19,050 --> 00:01:21,650 Orlando. More information in the episode 24 00:01:21,650 --> 00:01:24,290 and on their website. So, on topic, I've heard some 25 00:01:24,290 --> 00:01:27,730 discussion about people that there's a petition to try to 26 00:01:27,730 --> 00:01:29,490 change the race time. Yeah. 27 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:33,010 So right now the races are supposed to start at 12:10 for 28 00:01:33,210 --> 00:01:37,970 men and 12:20 PM for women, and they're trying to change it to 29 00:01:37,970 --> 00:01:41,370 6:00 or 7:00 AM just because of how hot Florida really gets, 30 00:01:41,370 --> 00:01:42,810 even though it will be in February. 31 00:01:42,970 --> 00:01:46,090 I can understand why. I mean, right now, even though 32 00:01:46,090 --> 00:01:50,760 we do have a lot of women qualifiers, we only have two men 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,400 that qualified under the Olympic world standard. 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,240 So, So what I learned this weekend, right? 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,960 And I didn't put that in last week's episode because I didn't 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:04,040 know, is that yes, to take part in the Olympic trial marathons, 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,720 a female runner has to run sub two hours and 37 minutes, 38 00:02:08,090 --> 00:02:11,410 whereas a man has to run sub two hours and 18 minutes. 39 00:02:11,410 --> 00:02:14,170 But then it's not just the fastest three people that are 40 00:02:14,170 --> 00:02:15,810 going to be sent off to the Olympics. 41 00:02:15,930 --> 00:02:17,970 They actually have to meet the world standard. 42 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:22,290 And for women, that is a two hour and 26 marathon and 50 43 00:02:22,290 --> 00:02:24,970 seconds. And for men, it's two hours, 8 44 00:02:24,970 --> 00:02:28,890 minutes and 10 seconds. And as of now, there's only been 45 00:02:28,890 --> 00:02:30,890 two men that have qualified for that. 46 00:02:30,890 --> 00:02:33,330 And that just happened at the Chicago Marathon. 47 00:02:33,730 --> 00:02:36,770 So we just did a full circle with this because this is a 48 00:02:36,810 --> 00:02:38,770 Chicago recap. That's interesting. 49 00:02:38,770 --> 00:02:43,010 So they not coming from as much of a marathon background as you. 50 00:02:43,010 --> 00:02:46,010 I did have some questions that would make the Olympic time 51 00:02:46,010 --> 00:02:50,010 trails more interesting. Maybe one of them was, I was 52 00:02:50,010 --> 00:02:52,330 wondering what the quota is. So usually there's a quota of 53 00:02:52,330 --> 00:02:56,170 how many people that can be sent to the Olympics and apparently 54 00:02:56,170 --> 00:02:58,450 it's three it seems like. So there's three people that 55 00:02:58,450 --> 00:03:02,700 could be sent to the Olympics. For men and from for women right 56 00:03:02,940 --> 00:03:04,260 each respectively. Yeah, yeah. 57 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:07,620 OK. And right now we have two guys. 58 00:03:08,780 --> 00:03:10,940 Yeah, so two guys that qualified. 59 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:15,780 They were Connor months and he ran a 20747 and Clayton Young, 60 00:03:15,780 --> 00:03:20,660 he ran a 208 flat Galen Rupp, which was expected, who was 61 00:03:20,660 --> 00:03:24,300 expected to run also under the 208 standard. 62 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:28,420 He finished with a 20848. And all of those races just took 63 00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:31,680 place last weekend in Chicago. And then for the women, you 64 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,480 actually have the standard. Obviously the time's a little 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,840 bit higher and a lot of people have gotten to the standard 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,960 right, or gotten below the standard. 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Yeah. So the world standard for women 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,040 again is 2/26/50. And right now when you look at 69 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,680 the Olympic Trials website, there are the declared entrance 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,200 and it gives you their Pr's. And right now we have 17 women 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,640 that have met not just the trial standard but also the world 72 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,120 standard. So shout out to your. 73 00:03:58,580 --> 00:04:03,060 Coach Ron, Tab and friend because he's helping us clarify 74 00:04:03,060 --> 00:04:04,660 this or understand this a little better. 75 00:04:05,020 --> 00:04:08,740 Basically then the Olympic Committee will choose who gets 76 00:04:08,740 --> 00:04:12,500 to run in the Olympics, assuming that they have a qualifying 77 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:14,540 time. So at the moment we could only 78 00:04:14,540 --> 00:04:17,940 send two males, but then we could send three females and 79 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:22,100 typically they would choose the fastest 3, right? 80 00:04:22,540 --> 00:04:26,340 Yes, they typically do. And The funny thing is also, 81 00:04:26,340 --> 00:04:31,200 which I just learned that the two men that qualified, if they 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,120 don't want to, they don't have to run the Olympic trials 83 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,920 because they already have reached the world standard of 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,160 sub 2/08/10. So if they don't want to run it, 85 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,880 they don't have to. So yeah, I think that stuff's 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,040 interesting. I think it's, it's neat to kind 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,600 of research and kind of see how the process happens. 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,000 Maybe you can follow. So maybe people will get excited 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,160 and follow some of the names or be interested in actually going 90 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,200 to the. You know, going to Orlando and 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,640 watching the race or watching the race on TV can see who could 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,080 potentially be the runners that'll end up in the Olympics, 93 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,160 which is coming up soon. Yeah, absolutely. 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,120 So today our goal was to do a race recap of Chicago because 95 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,600 you went there and raced it. But is there anything else that 96 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,320 was cool that happened in Chicago? 97 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Wink, wink, Yes, there was. We have a new world record in 98 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,650 the marathon distance. So Elliott Kip Chogi, the king 99 00:05:24,650 --> 00:05:25,890 has fallen. Not really. 100 00:05:25,890 --> 00:05:27,250 He's still awesome. I still love him. 101 00:05:27,490 --> 00:05:32,490 But we now have a 23 year old world champion who is Kelvin 102 00:05:32,490 --> 00:05:36,170 Kipton of Kenya. He ran at the Chicago Marathon 103 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:38,450 which had perfect weather conditions and we'll get into 104 00:05:38,450 --> 00:05:41,690 that. He ran at 2 hours and 35 second 105 00:05:41,690 --> 00:05:45,810 marathon. So Chicago must be a pretty fast 106 00:05:45,810 --> 00:05:47,570 course if people are getting records there. 107 00:05:47,850 --> 00:05:49,850 Yes, Chicago and Berlin. Always. 108 00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:51,780 Those are the record courses, yes. 109 00:05:51,780 --> 00:05:53,460 And they're super flat and awesome. 110 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:55,900 And the weather is always almost perfect. 111 00:05:56,140 --> 00:05:58,940 And to get ahead of ourselves a bit, maybe it'll go in the 112 00:05:58,940 --> 00:06:02,500 recap, but you are actually running and you could hear. 113 00:06:03,100 --> 00:06:04,820 But they announced the new world record. 114 00:06:05,140 --> 00:06:07,940 It was the most awesome thing. Just when I was getting a little 115 00:06:07,940 --> 00:06:11,140 fatigued, somebody came out on the course, just some spectator 116 00:06:11,140 --> 00:06:14,620 with a megaphone and said we have a new world record guys. 117 00:06:14,980 --> 00:06:17,100 Oh, I didn't even know it was just some random person with a 118 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:17,700 megaphone. Huh. 119 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:21,940 He was some random guy, and I'd felt like the entire field of 120 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:25,540 athletes that surrounded me, all of us were kind of baffled by it 121 00:06:25,540 --> 00:06:27,860 because he said it loud enough to hear it through the music, 122 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:30,620 and I feel like we all picked up the pace just a little bit. 123 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,520 So the next race you're at, I could just hide in the crowd 124 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,120 with a megaphone and say we got a new world record and you'll 125 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,960 run faster. I don't think records will be 126 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,400 set at New York for marathon distance. 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,240 So you want to get into the race recap? 128 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,720 Let's do it. Right. 129 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,560 We'll try to keep it brief. Is that a hint? 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Yes. OK, a hint to you. 131 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,720 So we'll go through the typical fashion. 132 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,960 We'll do the whole trip, yes. Sounds good. 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,860 So tell us about day one. So day one was Friday. 134 00:06:59,860 --> 00:07:03,980 I got that late Thursday night. I flew out Thursday night, got 135 00:07:03,980 --> 00:07:06,300 there late, stayed at my friend's house, who lives about 136 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:10,820 two miles from this race start. Friday morning I went to the 137 00:07:10,820 --> 00:07:14,380 Expo because I was helping out at the Fleet Feet tent, which 138 00:07:14,380 --> 00:07:16,620 was a lot of fun, but man, were they busy. 139 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:20,820 They had a lot of great swag and I didn't buy any of it because I 140 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:24,140 by the time I was done well, I was just kind of over it. 141 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:27,710 It was super busy. Wait, you were over in Expo? 142 00:07:27,710 --> 00:07:31,790 You, like, love the Expos. I do love Expos, but I I don't 143 00:07:31,790 --> 00:07:33,750 know about working them. I mean, it was fun while it 144 00:07:33,750 --> 00:07:36,030 lasted. Interesting. 145 00:07:36,030 --> 00:07:37,870 Go on. All right, so then after I was 146 00:07:37,870 --> 00:07:40,030 done, I still had to pick up my own stuff. 147 00:07:40,190 --> 00:07:44,190 So I had to get back in line to get my own stuff, which was the 148 00:07:44,190 --> 00:07:46,590 bib and the finisher shirt, which was mint green. 149 00:07:46,590 --> 00:07:49,630 It almost looked like the same way the one from Berlin looked, 150 00:07:49,630 --> 00:07:52,630 except for one of them was Adidas and this one was Nike. 151 00:07:52,830 --> 00:07:55,080 It's kind of funny. They kind of clash when you hold 152 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,440 them next to each other. My friend Colin pointed that 153 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,760 out. They were just off. 154 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Yeah, the colors were just off, just a little bit off, so you 155 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,960 could never wear that stuff together. 156 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,760 So anyway, so then while I was doing that, I managed to meet up 157 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:13,170 with I think 10 people, which was awesome because it's great 158 00:08:13,170 --> 00:08:16,050 to meet up with friends at the Expo because everybody 159 00:08:16,050 --> 00:08:19,370 eventually has to go there. So big shout outs to my friend 160 00:08:19,490 --> 00:08:25,050 Colin Min, James, Michael, Patty and Dave from Stockholm. 161 00:08:25,410 --> 00:08:29,970 I also saw a few listeners. I met Julie, Sandy and Jane, and 162 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:33,530 then I met Morgan, who's also part of the Speedstrider 163 00:08:33,530 --> 00:08:37,010 Facebook group, and she says she listens to the podcast, whom I 164 00:08:37,010 --> 00:08:39,940 talked to for quite a bit. So shout out to Morgan. 165 00:08:39,940 --> 00:08:42,059 Thank you for listening. She told me that she and her 166 00:08:42,059 --> 00:08:45,340 kids listen in the car, so shout out to the kids as well. 167 00:08:45,940 --> 00:08:47,740 Now if you know their names, that's really important. 168 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:50,220 I know. I wish I knew the kids names so. 169 00:08:50,580 --> 00:08:52,700 I'm usually watching the kids while you're doing marathons, 170 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:55,740 but I do always enjoy the stories where you talk about 171 00:08:56,060 --> 00:08:58,820 meeting listeners that are excited or that enjoy the 172 00:08:58,820 --> 00:09:00,940 podcast. So that's really awesome. 173 00:09:00,940 --> 00:09:03,660 It makes me feel good that they some people like it, yeah. 174 00:09:03,660 --> 00:09:05,780 It makes you really feel good about sitting down, putting the 175 00:09:05,780 --> 00:09:09,790 time into this and someone's actually listening, so that's 176 00:09:09,790 --> 00:09:13,990 really cool. So next so after that I went to 177 00:09:13,990 --> 00:09:17,150 back to my friend's house where I was staying and hung out there 178 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:20,590 for a little while and then got ready to go to a Kenyan dinner. 179 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:22,310 Ooh, a Kenyan dinner. What's that? 180 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:28,070 So the people of Kenya come and host this event for the runners, 181 00:09:28,390 --> 00:09:31,910 and that was pretty amazing. And the food smelled really 182 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:34,630 good, even though I was a little bit scared to try something new 183 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:37,730 because they say before the marathon start eating like a 184 00:09:37,730 --> 00:09:39,170 toddler and I was taking that to heart. 185 00:09:39,170 --> 00:09:43,010 I didn't want to take anything that was too exotic into my 186 00:09:43,010 --> 00:09:45,210 body, so I didn't really eat that much. 187 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:49,250 But it was absolutely cool. They had Wesley Career show up, 188 00:09:49,250 --> 00:09:52,890 who is a Boston Marathon champion, LA Marathon winner. 189 00:09:52,890 --> 00:09:57,010 He's a 2016 Olympian, past Chicago Marathon runner and all 190 00:09:57,010 --> 00:09:58,930 that stuff. So he's pretty well known in the 191 00:09:58,930 --> 00:10:03,290 running world and he was there talking to everyone in the 192 00:10:03,290 --> 00:10:06,490 audience, including to the athletes, encouraging them and 193 00:10:06,490 --> 00:10:09,210 also talking to them about staying clean while running. 194 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:13,810 So that was a really cool few minutes of speech that he held 195 00:10:13,810 --> 00:10:15,770 there. So that's interesting is. 196 00:10:16,620 --> 00:10:19,260 We'll have a teaser for next step or is it next episode? 197 00:10:19,340 --> 00:10:21,860 Yes, we do have a teaser for next episode on that note 198 00:10:21,860 --> 00:10:24,860 because we know everyone in the running community is talking 199 00:10:24,860 --> 00:10:28,420 about doping right now and what is going on and why are people 200 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:32,540 so fast. So next week in episode 179, we 201 00:10:32,540 --> 00:10:36,820 have someone from the US Anti Doping Agency on speaking to us 202 00:10:36,820 --> 00:10:40,460 about doping and marathon running, what it means and all 203 00:10:40,460 --> 00:10:42,660 that stuff. So, yeah, good, good plug, Ryan. 204 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:47,260 This is our quick teaser. So today's episode is 178 B, but 205 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:50,300 yes, we do know how to count. But you messed up last week 206 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:54,380 anyway, so that's pretty cool. I mean, I don't know. 207 00:10:54,380 --> 00:10:56,900 I kind of want to hear what you talked about during the dinners 208 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:58,620 and stuff. Well, there is a language 209 00:10:58,620 --> 00:11:02,300 barrier, but there were some really cool people at my table 210 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:06,580 that I talked to and some of them had their workouts or I 211 00:11:06,580 --> 00:11:09,820 guess easy runs on their phones, which I asked to see. 212 00:11:10,770 --> 00:11:13,530 Really. Yeah, I have no shame with that. 213 00:11:14,770 --> 00:11:16,850 And success you find some you here see some. 214 00:11:16,850 --> 00:11:19,930 I mean I saw some crazy runs where I was basically 215 00:11:19,930 --> 00:11:21,970 questioning in my head is this kilometers. 216 00:11:21,970 --> 00:11:25,370 It was just so confused to see, you know, anything over 10 miles 217 00:11:25,530 --> 00:11:30,850 or really anything that is more than a 200 meter run with A4 218 00:11:30,930 --> 00:11:33,500 with the number four as the minutes. 219 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:36,940 Like time mile per mile? Yeah, per mile, yeah, that was 220 00:11:36,940 --> 00:11:39,420 just kind of confusing cuz then I was like, oh, he's running 12 221 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:44,820 kilometers or 12 miles at a four and something mile pace. 222 00:11:44,820 --> 00:11:47,140 It was really confusing. Yeah, that's gonna be hard 223 00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:52,500 because it's like it's magnitudes off from where where 224 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:55,660 a lot of people are at, myself included, you know? 225 00:11:55,660 --> 00:11:58,460 So it's like it's hard to understand, like their numbers 226 00:11:58,460 --> 00:12:00,300 mean something completely different to them. 227 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,480 And they probably understand between themselves those 228 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,080 numbers, because they're relatively on a similar page, 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,720 but compared to a mere mortal runner, they're like just way 230 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,760 different. Yeah, exactly. 231 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,640 So that was fun. That was really one of. 232 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:19,580 The memorable experiences of Chicago? 233 00:12:19,700 --> 00:12:22,300 Yes, absolutely. Any so, no. 234 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:25,940 No shocking conversation pieces or secret information or 235 00:12:25,940 --> 00:12:27,700 anything else. I mean, I didn't stay all the 236 00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:30,460 way till the end because I was tired and I wanted to go to bed. 237 00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:31,740 You. Got invited to the Kenyan 238 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:33,540 dinner. You didn't even stay to the end. 239 00:12:34,060 --> 00:12:34,980 I didn't. I should have. 240 00:12:35,260 --> 00:12:38,340 Oh my gosh. OK, so you went to bed. 241 00:12:38,420 --> 00:12:42,820 That's so exciting. So day two. 242 00:12:43,550 --> 00:12:48,750 Yeah, so day two I went and did the Shakeout Run with the Latina 243 00:12:48,750 --> 00:12:54,870 Run Club and Nadia Ruiz, whom I have hosted on this podcast as 244 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:58,390 an as a guest before. And I went to that shakeout run 245 00:12:58,390 --> 00:13:01,510 because it was .2 miles from where I was staying. 246 00:13:01,710 --> 00:13:03,150 Oh, I thought you just ran .2 miles. 247 00:13:03,310 --> 00:13:06,390 No, no, I mean, we ran 2 miles, but I mean, I guess it's the day 248 00:13:06,390 --> 00:13:08,150 before the marathon. I don't really care what I'm 249 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:09,590 running. I'm just moving a little bit, 250 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,000 which was fun. It was fun to talk to everyone 251 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,320 there. They were super welcoming. 252 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,120 And then after that I moved to a hotel. 253 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,960 So you're at your friend's house, but you moved to a hotel. 254 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,920 I mean, it's good to focus and to have some peace and quiet. 255 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,840 Make sure you get a good rest before the marathon. 256 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Are you looking for the Perfect apparel That mirrors your love 257 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,530 for running? Look no further than run swag 258 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:40,850 The Go to store. Buy runners forerunners from 259 00:13:40,850 --> 00:13:43,690 witty teas to hoodies that commemorate your Marathon Majors 260 00:13:43,810 --> 00:13:47,250 to crops that get you motivated. Run swags gotcha covered. 261 00:13:47,570 --> 00:13:50,330 Discover the perfect blend of comfort and style. 262 00:13:50,570 --> 00:13:56,170 Visit www.runswag.com Run swag. There's something for every 263 00:13:56,170 --> 00:14:01,370 runner. May, did you do anything else 264 00:14:01,370 --> 00:14:03,610 that day? Well, that day I hung out with 265 00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:10,090 friends from Florida. We took it easy and just try to 266 00:14:10,090 --> 00:14:12,410 shoe shop. Shoe shop? 267 00:14:12,610 --> 00:14:15,970 Yeah, shoe shopping. Because my friend Sam was 268 00:14:15,970 --> 00:14:19,610 injured and she was trying to do anything she could as she was 269 00:14:19,610 --> 00:14:22,730 part of the Wanda Age Group Championship which took place in 270 00:14:22,730 --> 00:14:24,290 Chicago. What is that? 271 00:14:24,820 --> 00:14:30,260 So once you hit 40, there is Abbott, who is the organizer of 272 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:34,300 these six marathons, as you know, and they take the fastest 273 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:37,900 of each age group and invite them to the world championship. 274 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:41,460 She's really fast. She's in the age group of 45 to 275 00:14:41,460 --> 00:14:45,580 49, and she was injured. And because she was injured and 276 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:48,700 she's a runner, she was trying to do whatever she could to be 277 00:14:48,700 --> 00:14:50,460 faster, even though she was injured. 278 00:14:50,700 --> 00:14:53,580 So for that reason we were trying to shop for alpha flies 279 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,760 and successfully located some last minute, but she didn't end 280 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,440 up wearing them. So what else? 281 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,560 So what else you do that day? Well, so then we ended up going 282 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,880 to the pasta dinner, which there's another funny story. 283 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,920 The Hilton Hotel had the pasta dinner for anyone that wanted to 284 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,360 go. You just pay 26 bucks and you 285 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,240 have access to unlimited pasta. And you know the whole buffet 286 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,800 thing. We went, we had about 10 people 287 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,080 and one of our runners, one of our best friends, is Wes. 288 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,640 Wes is a Haitian guy, and while we're at the Hilton, which is 289 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,640 the hotel that hosts all the elite athletes, everyone at the 290 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,080 other tables kept looking over to him because they thought he 291 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,120 was an elite athlete too. To the point that the waiter 292 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,240 walked over to us and said to Wes, Excuse me, Sir, would you 293 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,320 mind taking pictures with these people from the other table? 294 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,720 We all turned around, looked over, and there's just tons of 295 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:54,320 people waving at him. So then Wes, instead of saying, 296 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,080 you know what, I'm probably being mistaken for someone else, 297 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,880 he said sure, I'll do it. And he gets up and he gets in 298 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,400 with those groups and there's just lines of people taking 299 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,400 pictures with him and he just smiles and takes pictures with 300 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,280 them. I hope you enjoyed that, It was 301 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,390 so much fun, yeah. I hope he got. 302 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:18,270 I hope he got a kick out of it or he enjoyed it. 303 00:16:18,270 --> 00:16:19,990 Wes is awesome. Yeah, we all did. 304 00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:23,070 I just didn't believe that he actually went for it. 305 00:16:23,070 --> 00:16:25,710 I thought, you know, knowing him for this many years, I still 306 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:28,670 would have thought he would have said Guys, I'm not an elite 307 00:16:28,670 --> 00:16:30,430 runner. I probably would say that just 308 00:16:30,430 --> 00:16:33,510 cuz I'm too embarrassed to do it, but it's cool that he did. 309 00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:37,470 He just smiled and nodded. And even when we're walking out 310 00:16:37,470 --> 00:16:39,550 of the hotel, there were just so many handshakes. 311 00:16:39,550 --> 00:16:43,620 Everyone's like, hey, good job or hey, good luck on Sunday. 312 00:16:43,620 --> 00:16:49,020 It was hilarious. Okay, that is funny. 313 00:16:49,020 --> 00:16:51,740 I remember you telling me that you actually sent me a video of 314 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:53,780 him, like taking a picture with everyone. 315 00:16:53,780 --> 00:16:56,820 So that's really funny. It was hilarious. 316 00:16:56,820 --> 00:16:58,860 So that's the end of our night, though. 317 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:03,740 We headed back to the hotel to get some sleep because in the 318 00:17:03,740 --> 00:17:07,960 morning we were planning on waking up at 4:45 to walk over 319 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,839 to Millennium Park to start racing. 320 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,680 So race day? You got tickets to the VIP 321 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:15,920 lounge? Yes. 322 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,200 We were in one of the VIP tents, which was great. 323 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,680 Thank you, Tasha for hooking that up. 324 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,720 And that meant that we had a different a separate bag check 325 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,960 and we were able to stay in in a tent before heading to the 326 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,560 corrals, which made it a little bit nicer because it was a 327 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,720 little bit chilly for someone coming from Florida. 328 00:17:35,810 --> 00:17:37,490 Is everyone else is just sitting outside in the park? 329 00:17:38,050 --> 00:17:40,930 Yeah, I mean standing, right? Or just standing outside, Yeah, 330 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:44,090 And we were a little bit shielded from the wind and it 331 00:17:44,090 --> 00:17:47,490 was it was good. But we arrived a little bit late 332 00:17:47,490 --> 00:17:51,050 and the lounges are close to the finish line, which is at the 333 00:17:51,050 --> 00:17:56,580 opposite side of the waves. I was in Wave B, so I had to 334 00:17:56,580 --> 00:17:59,260 walk quite a way up there. We didn't spend a lot of time 335 00:17:59,260 --> 00:18:02,660 there basically. So by VIP tent, they just mean a 336 00:18:02,660 --> 00:18:05,780 tent. It's a tent, but it comes in 337 00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:09,180 handy at the end of the race, OK, because then you can just 338 00:18:09,180 --> 00:18:11,940 walk literally across the finish line and get into the tent. 339 00:18:12,260 --> 00:18:15,380 But to start the race, it's kind of counter intuitive because. 340 00:18:15,860 --> 00:18:18,780 No, it's okay. You basically drop off your bag 341 00:18:18,780 --> 00:18:21,610 and go. I forgot to grab breakfast 342 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:24,570 because while we were leaving the hotel, I was like, I'm just 343 00:18:24,570 --> 00:18:27,650 gonna eat something in the tent. But then there was so much to 344 00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:31,850 walk from the tent that I realized, wow, I didn't eat 345 00:18:31,850 --> 00:18:35,930 anything, which keeps happening to me on race day. 346 00:18:35,930 --> 00:18:37,810 I don't know. I usually don't forget to eat, 347 00:18:37,810 --> 00:18:40,770 but I gotta work on that. So you wanna go through the 348 00:18:40,930 --> 00:18:42,530 beginning of the race? Sure. 349 00:18:42,890 --> 00:18:46,050 Start all right. No, the race start. 350 00:18:46,530 --> 00:18:51,370 Yeah, talk about it, OK. So did you get into your corral? 351 00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:53,930 Yes, I made it there just in time. 352 00:18:54,130 --> 00:18:57,250 I met with my friend Colin, whom I've talked to you about before. 353 00:18:57,330 --> 00:19:00,970 He's done Berlin, he's done Boston, He's done Paris at the 354 00:19:00,970 --> 00:19:03,570 same time as me. So it's good to see familiar 355 00:19:03,570 --> 00:19:05,130 face. And we were planning on kind of 356 00:19:05,130 --> 00:19:07,050 running, starting out together like we always do. 357 00:19:07,050 --> 00:19:09,370 And then one of us dies off and the other one continues. 358 00:19:09,770 --> 00:19:10,970 You wanna talk about the beginning then? 359 00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:14,010 Yeah. So in the beginning, I was 360 00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:17,100 wearing layers of clothes. I tossed my clothes across the 361 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,180 starting line. It was absolutely amazing and 362 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:20,860 beautiful. It didn't feel too crowded. 363 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:23,460 We just had the Berlin Marathon and the complaints were that it 364 00:19:23,460 --> 00:19:28,580 was way too crowded. Here we had 47,000 runners and 365 00:19:28,580 --> 00:19:31,580 the streets are wide enough to where it was absolutely 366 00:19:31,580 --> 00:19:33,300 beautiful. How many were in Berlin? 367 00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:36,420 Probably around the exact same amount but. 368 00:19:36,460 --> 00:19:38,140 Just smaller streets, smaller streets. 369 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:42,300 It's Germany, So that was a common complaint, which you 370 00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:44,580 know, that does suck when you're trying to go out for a PR and 371 00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:47,170 you're in a crowded space. But here we didn't have that 372 00:19:47,170 --> 00:19:50,450 problem. Chicago is usually known for 373 00:19:50,450 --> 00:19:53,850 having a faulty GPS. You had that issue in the past, 374 00:19:53,850 --> 00:19:55,250 like how many times have you been in Chicago? 375 00:19:55,410 --> 00:19:58,330 This is my third time and the time I did have a problem with 376 00:19:58,330 --> 00:20:00,370 that I was wearing an Apple Watch. 377 00:20:01,010 --> 00:20:02,810 I haven't had that problem since then. 378 00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:05,410 But at the same time I also don't rely on the watch. 379 00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:11,050 I just go by effort and I don't want to manually lap it like a 380 00:20:11,050 --> 00:20:13,650 lot of runners do because then you have to do it for 26 miles. 381 00:20:13,650 --> 00:20:15,660 I don't want to do that. But yeah, I didn't have a 382 00:20:15,660 --> 00:20:18,580 problem with that. I just kind of went with the 383 00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:22,700 group I was surrounded with. So small tangent, but Chicago 384 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:24,980 does have a lot of tall buildings, which does make it 385 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:26,460 GPS hard. I wonder. 386 00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:29,300 Also you know, GPS has to have like line of sight, so I wonder 387 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:33,100 if it's like if the satellites just don't happen to go over 388 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:36,020 Chicago directly as much as it do does some cities. 389 00:20:36,020 --> 00:20:37,900 And that may be the reason, but anyway. 390 00:20:38,530 --> 00:20:40,330 Let's move on. So then we were running. 391 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:43,290 I got hot pretty quickly, as you know, I heat up pretty fast. 392 00:20:43,290 --> 00:20:46,250 I tossed my gloves. They gave you free gloves in the 393 00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:50,530 VIP tent, which that was nice. I also had a PR of arm warmers, 394 00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:54,290 which they're just basically socks that I cut the feet off. 395 00:20:54,770 --> 00:20:58,610 I tossed those and there I was. I was just wearing a tank top 396 00:20:58,610 --> 00:21:00,650 and shorts and I felt completely comfortable. 397 00:21:01,110 --> 00:21:03,670 And the temperature was, The temperature was, I don't 398 00:21:03,670 --> 00:21:05,550 actually know, I think it was between 40s and 50s. 399 00:21:05,710 --> 00:21:08,070 Yeah, I was pretty low. It was absolutely perfect though 400 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:10,710 for running. Once you heat up, yeah. 401 00:21:10,790 --> 00:21:14,990 And yeah, even then, you know, once you pass through some 402 00:21:14,990 --> 00:21:17,230 buildings, you get a little bit of a breeze and it just felt 403 00:21:17,230 --> 00:21:20,230 like refreshing when it wasn't strong headwind or anything like 404 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:20,710 that. It was. 405 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:21,680 It was. It was really good. 406 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,160 So the Windy City, Chicago can be windy. 407 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,800 And in the past you've had a lot of wind. 408 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,120 But I feel like when you're running, I don't know. 409 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,880 I mean, I guess it's unless it's really headwind, it's OK. 410 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,880 Yeah, I remember you commented again on in the past, though, 411 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,120 but I bet the light winds are helpful for the elite runners 412 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,440 that got the record. Yeah, absolutely. 413 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,160 So anything memorable? I mean, is it still dark? 414 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,520 No, it was just getting light. It was beautiful. 415 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:53,160 I try to look around a lot and enjoy the scenery and. 416 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,680 So the first part seems to be pretty bland because you don't 417 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,560 really remember much. Maybe you're either running so 418 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,040 fast or you've done it three Times Now that you're like, 419 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,600 yeah, you know, honestly, I don't remember that much of it. 420 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,680 I don't know. I always tend to get runners 421 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,480 amnesia. I remember that there was a 320 422 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,970 pacing group and I really kind of liked being close to them. 423 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:25,370 So one thing I did remember is you said you really enjoyed it 424 00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:28,610 and you felt confident doing it, but you were nervous beforehand. 425 00:22:29,170 --> 00:22:31,010 So when did you get that confidence? 426 00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:33,690 It was really funny, Ryan, because I meant to tell you 427 00:22:33,690 --> 00:22:35,410 about that. It was the weirdest thing. 428 00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:38,330 I was a nervous wreck just because you know how I run 429 00:22:38,410 --> 00:22:41,570 marathons throughout the year, and a lot of them I just run for 430 00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:44,090 fun. But then there's a fast course 431 00:22:44,090 --> 00:22:47,470 and I want to run it fast. And Chicago, I think I put a lot 432 00:22:47,470 --> 00:22:51,830 of pressure on myself and I trained hard in the sense that I 433 00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:54,750 did a lot of miles, but I didn't really do a lot of speed work. 434 00:22:54,990 --> 00:22:59,110 So I knew I wasn't in my best shape and that made me feel a 435 00:22:59,110 --> 00:23:03,670 little insecure and nervous. But then that lasted all the way 436 00:23:03,670 --> 00:23:06,510 up until we crossed the starting line or we were close to 437 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:09,750 crossing the starting line. All of a sudden I had this boost 438 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:14,490 of confidence that I've done a lot of work and I can just enjoy 439 00:23:14,490 --> 00:23:18,850 this and I can do well. And I don't know what happened 440 00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:22,290 magically, but that lasted through the entire race. 441 00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:25,490 So quick observation, as I remember, when you did run, what 442 00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:30,370 was your fastest time 3/18? And this time I did a 323 flat. 443 00:23:30,650 --> 00:23:32,130 Yeah. So it was a little bit slower, 444 00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:36,650 but I remember when you did the 318, you were like completely 445 00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:39,650 gassed and you're like having a difficult time running it. 446 00:23:39,650 --> 00:23:43,000 And this time? You seem to like run it more 447 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,160 like easier like it wasn't that difficult. 448 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,400 So I mean potentially you could have gone faster maybe or maybe 449 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,960 the difference in training being less speed work and more miles 450 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,480 gave you more confidence and comfort level with just doing it 451 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,610 at. You know, a really close time. 452 00:24:00,610 --> 00:24:02,130 That's interesting. Yeah. 453 00:24:02,130 --> 00:24:05,130 And I feel like I've also researched a lot of the mental 454 00:24:05,130 --> 00:24:07,730 part of running because I always feel like, OK, we do all these 455 00:24:07,730 --> 00:24:09,890 miles, what are we doing for our minds? 456 00:24:10,050 --> 00:24:14,690 So I did do some exercises which will go into an episode some 457 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:19,690 other time, but I did feel comfortable for the 1st 1415 458 00:24:19,690 --> 00:24:22,290 miles and throughout. But then it kind of turned into 459 00:24:22,290 --> 00:24:26,050 more of a confidence. To give you an example, normally 460 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:31,970 I get gassed by a mile 1415 and any goal that I have kind of 461 00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:35,850 starts getting out of the window or fading because I'm thinking, 462 00:24:35,850 --> 00:24:38,890 OK, you know, it's OK to be a few minutes slower, it's 463 00:24:38,890 --> 00:24:42,830 alright. But this time the the 320 pacer 464 00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:46,950 was close to me and he was, I don't think he was running even 465 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:49,710 splits or anything like that. But every time I saw him run 466 00:24:49,710 --> 00:24:53,230 off, normally old bloody would have been like it's OK let him 467 00:24:53,230 --> 00:24:55,430 go. But I had something growing 468 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:58,790 inside of me that was like go catch him, go catch him. 469 00:24:58,950 --> 00:25:01,990 And I kept doing that and it was kind of cool. 470 00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:06,110 I wonder how I can develop that and you know, maybe couple that 471 00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:10,110 with speed work and who knows, who knows what I can do, right? 472 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,760 Yeah, I mean, I honestly like, you know, it does kind of raise 473 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,160 the question, like I said is could you have gone faster, 474 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,720 Could you even gone faster than the 318 potentially because 475 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,720 maybe you weren't pushing yourself as much as you could 476 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,800 have. Not that you have to because 477 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,080 you're just doing for fun anyway. 478 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,000 But regardless, like if you do continue to train that way, 479 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,360 maybe you could just you always talk about enjoying the 480 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:35,240 marathon, but you can enjoy the marathon and run pretty darn 481 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,640 fast at the same time. But yeah, so is there any other? 482 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,240 So catching, catching the Pacers, you friend beat you or 483 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,240 lost you for a little bit and you caught up to him? 484 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,520 Yeah, Yeah. So my friend Colin, he, I'm not 485 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,120 sure exactly when he went out there, but he seemed like he was 486 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,720 in good shape. He's a guy. 487 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,080 He was bouncy. So I just kind of let him go. 488 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,480 And then I think it was at mile 24. 489 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,760 I'm just running along and suddenly there's a voice to the 490 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,950 left of me that says, hey, I know you and I look over and I'm 491 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:13,110 like, no, because I was hoping that he would run like a sub 315 492 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:16,430 or something like that because he was so bouncy and energetic 493 00:26:16,990 --> 00:26:20,190 comes out that he was struggling with his nutrition. 494 00:26:20,350 --> 00:26:22,990 But you know, to be honest with you, I was too. 495 00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:26,070 Like I told you, I was hungry when the race started. 496 00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:31,030 So I took my first Morton jail at mile 2, and I think it was 497 00:26:31,030 --> 00:26:33,510 one of the ones that had been sitting in the car because it 498 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:36,710 wasn't gel like anymore. It was complete liquid. 499 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,760 And so all of a sudden my stomach was cramping and I was 500 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320 like, oh, great, but then, I mean, what are you gonna do, 501 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,320 right? So I just kept eating those gels 502 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,440 anyway, because it's either no fuel or some fuel. 503 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,600 And by by the time I was at mile 15 or so, my stomach was a 504 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000 complete mess. But I mean, obviously not bad 505 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,040 enough to mess with my mind. We got the runs, yeah. 506 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,680 That was the old name of our podcast. 507 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,010 For anyone that doesn't know this, we used to be. 508 00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:07,130 We got the runs and yeah, let's not go back into that anymore. 509 00:27:07,130 --> 00:27:12,130 You got the runs, so it's interesting. 510 00:27:12,170 --> 00:27:14,610 Maybe you've been learning something from all the 511 00:27:14,610 --> 00:27:17,770 podcasting with regards to the mental game, but you should go 512 00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:22,090 back and listen to some more nutrition, like eating before 513 00:27:22,090 --> 00:27:22,770 the event. Sorry. 514 00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:26,750 So anyway. Ladder, half of the race, the 515 00:27:26,790 --> 00:27:28,950 end of the near the end of the race, but not the end of the 516 00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:30,430 race. So yeah, I mean, it was all 517 00:27:30,430 --> 00:27:32,950 beautiful and roses and everything. 518 00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:34,790 Perfect weather. Lots of amnesia. 519 00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:36,990 Lots of amnesia. I don't know. 520 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:38,950 This is a thing. If you asked me what I thought 521 00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:40,990 about during the race, I really can't recall. 522 00:27:40,990 --> 00:27:43,030 It just was long. But it wasn't. 523 00:27:43,030 --> 00:27:44,990 It's like a glimpse and then it's over. 524 00:27:44,990 --> 00:27:48,650 You make it right turn and then you go up a hill. 525 00:27:48,770 --> 00:27:52,010 And then after the hill it goes downhill and you literally fly 526 00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:55,450 into the finish. OK And that's my favorite part 527 00:27:55,450 --> 00:27:57,290 of the race. Even though it's a hill, I love 528 00:27:57,290 --> 00:27:59,330 that hill. I know that a lot of people 529 00:27:59,330 --> 00:28:02,050 struggle with the hills and all that stuff later on because they 530 00:28:02,050 --> 00:28:05,890 say, you know, you hit that magic wall or I guess unmagical 531 00:28:05,890 --> 00:28:08,170 wall at mile 22. For me, it's the opposite. 532 00:28:08,410 --> 00:28:11,330 Once I hit 22, I'm like, oh, only four mall miles left. 533 00:28:11,570 --> 00:28:15,460 I've done that every single day at least, and more and so then I 534 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:17,860 can do this. So I think I kind of spread up 535 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:20,260 and then I crossed the finish line. 536 00:28:20,260 --> 00:28:22,660 I was super happy. There was number crying, 537 00:28:22,660 --> 00:28:24,540 emotion. I was just feeling happy. 538 00:28:24,940 --> 00:28:28,300 And then yeah, I had that, like I told you, I had that pink 539 00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:31,860 sticker on my bib. I could just literally turn left 540 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:34,660 into the tent area. Somebody escorted me and it was 541 00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:37,580 amazing. I understand how you can say 542 00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:41,100 people don't seem to like the end or hills at the end, because 543 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,580 I remember in Stockholm it felt like. 544 00:28:44,060 --> 00:28:47,220 It was going on like it was like 04 miles left, but it was going 545 00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:49,700 on forever, I feel felt like. I think. 546 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:51,780 I think that actually ended up being a little long though, too. 547 00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:54,980 That's cool that you were excited and happy for the 548 00:28:54,980 --> 00:28:56,460 finish. No, no, I felt. 549 00:28:56,460 --> 00:28:59,540 Actually, I felt pretty fresh. I did have to use the bathroom, 550 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,100 but. So you spent the rest of your 551 00:29:02,460 --> 00:29:04,900 afternoon in the tent? I did, yes. 552 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:09,300 Because they had food. They had mimosas. 553 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:12,350 Good food, good food. Like good mimosas. 554 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:14,910 Oh, I don't even know. I mean, they had a lot of meat, 555 00:29:14,910 --> 00:29:18,710 so I ate basically mashed potatoes and chips, but they had 556 00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:21,950 a lot of better and more. But you're vegetarian, so that's 557 00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:24,310 why you didn't eat it. But no, because my stomach. 558 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:27,790 Was upset. And you're vegetarian and that, 559 00:29:27,790 --> 00:29:29,590 yeah. So you would have eaten the meat 560 00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:31,270 if you weren't. Your stomach wasn't upset. 561 00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:33,510 I would have eaten the cold cuts. 562 00:29:34,110 --> 00:29:37,630 By cold cuts, you mean cheese. We've had this argument where 563 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:41,150 typically I thought it means meat and when, he says. 564 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,080 It means cheese too. But anyway, go on. 565 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,400 Else. So yeah, so they do have a lot 566 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,080 of food and mimosas and drinks. And we reunited with all of our 567 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,320 friends. We sat at the table, shout out 568 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,200 to our friend Sandrine, who does listen every once in a while. 569 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,040 She had a massive PR. Then my friend Wes, he had a PR 570 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,600 as well. We spent time with Tasha in the 571 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,280 tent and, you know, mingled, got to know some new people. 572 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,600 They had little massages. They had stretching and then 573 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,040 they had the the Champions come in. 574 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,240 So yeah, I mean, I spent a lot of time there. 575 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,160 Plus on top of that, there was a lot of people that I recognized 576 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,600 from having interviewed them on the podcast, such as John Hughes 577 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,440 from Track Shack, who we just had on the podcast last week, 578 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,960 obviously would prerecorded the episode, but he was sitting at 579 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680 my table and it took us a second to recognize each other because 580 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,360 we did our meeting through Zoom before. 581 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,560 So that was kind of funny. So we talked with him. 582 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,880 And then they brought in the Champions. 583 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,840 They brought in Kipton, they brought in Hassan, and then they 584 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,440 brought Marcel Hoog, who was the wheelchair champion. 585 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,840 He's the wheelchair racing champion for basically every 586 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,840 world major. So they were all there. 587 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,280 Yeah. And he's from Switzerland, so I 588 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,800 always speak with him in German. I just met him in Boston. 589 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,200 So that was kind of cool. It was a lot of cool and very 590 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,960 inspirational people that were there. 591 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,400 And runners, of course. That's neat. 592 00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:16,420 So end of the day you finally got out of your tent with free 593 00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:21,020 food and massages. However, UN showered right and 594 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:24,220 showered and we had to check out of our hotel. 595 00:31:24,220 --> 00:31:27,620 At 12 we had left the suitcases down in the lobby. 596 00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:29,860 There was no opportunity to shower so. 597 00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:33,380 So you took Sweaty Leddy to a whole new level, basically. 598 00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:37,220 So the last night I stayed with my friends Martin and Isabel, 599 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:41,700 who also ran the marathon shout out to Martin. 600 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:44,980 He ran a 235, which is absolutely bizarre and crazy, 601 00:31:45,340 --> 00:31:48,140 but amazing. And then I finally showered and 602 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:50,420 finally got my hands on some deep dish pizza. 603 00:31:50,660 --> 00:31:54,740 And that was basically it. That wraps up Chicago. 604 00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:58,860 My flight the next day was it 8:00 in the morning, which makes 605 00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:01,540 for an early rise, but that's OK. 606 00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:02,980 I mean, I couldn't sleep well anyways. 607 00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:04,300 Too many people in this hotel room. 608 00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:07,780 You can always sleep in the plane or when you get home, it 609 00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:09,580 says you. But then you also know we have 610 00:32:09,580 --> 00:32:12,700 kids. So rate your marathon 611 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:16,140 experience. You've done 3 Chicago's, so 612 00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:19,500 we're not rating Chicago as opposed to other marathons, but 613 00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:22,180 123? Which has been your favorite 614 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:24,620 Chicago Marathon? All of them, but in a different 615 00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:26,380 way. I mean, the first one was 616 00:32:26,380 --> 00:32:29,780 amazing because you were there in the area, at least with the 617 00:32:29,780 --> 00:32:34,260 kids, and my brother came out. And so the last year was pretty 618 00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:37,420 amazing as well, just because it was so different. 619 00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:38,820 And then this year was different too. 620 00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:43,900 And you know, I kind of go into these experiences as trying to 621 00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:46,420 make a new one rather than trying to top the last one. 622 00:32:46,420 --> 00:32:49,260 And I suggest anyone do that because you're not gonna run the 623 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:53,400 same time or have the same experience and the only way to 624 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,840 enjoy it is just to go and completely open minded and be 625 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,840 open to a new experience. Yeah, that's a good way to do 626 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,840 it. I was trying to get an answer 627 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,120 out of you, but that's a good way to sit. 628 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Think about it. Yeah. 629 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,040 So guess what Chicago opens on? I think it's October 16th or 630 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,120 17th for a registration. I will be back. 631 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,560 I have a hotel room booked. I try to book a flight. 632 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,840 It's too early to do that, but I'm definitely coming back. 633 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,000 That's interesting too, because I remember when we did the 634 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Chicago Marathon the first time, your attitude was definitely not 635 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120 the same. Like because you you did like 636 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,360 it. And no, no taking away from any 637 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,960 of that. But you weren't so excited to 638 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,240 come back. And now that it's your third 639 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,560 year, it's like you're super excited to go back. 640 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,960 That's interesting. Well, there's two reasons for 641 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,870 that. I think it's because when I did 642 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:44,390 it the first time, I was trying to run so hard, I didn't even 643 00:33:44,390 --> 00:33:48,710 look up a single time and it was a very painful threshold run for 644 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:51,910 26.2 miles. So that was the one reason. 645 00:33:52,110 --> 00:33:55,190 The other reason was that I didn't really make it into a 646 00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:57,270 running weekend. We were rushed, we're traveling 647 00:33:57,270 --> 00:34:01,550 around with fair family, we were sightseeing and then I was just 648 00:34:01,630 --> 00:34:05,590 quick run and done. And so I think that's another 649 00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:08,230 reason. I definitely noticed that first 650 00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:12,830 point that you made. I felt like just your attitude 651 00:34:12,830 --> 00:34:17,750 and just talking with you that this one seemed easier in that 652 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:21,590 sense, whereas the first one seemed like you're having a much 653 00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:24,989 more difficult time, you know, trying to run the similar pace. 654 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:29,710 But yeah, so, you know, it's we learn and grow as runners and 655 00:34:29,710 --> 00:34:32,780 it's just amazing. And I mean, I would put Chicago 656 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:35,260 at this point next to Boston and you know, I love going to the 657 00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:39,100 Boston Marathon. It's a it's, it's very easy to 658 00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:44,179 navigate and I'm running New York in November and the idea of 659 00:34:44,179 --> 00:34:47,540 having to take a bus and everything to even just get to 660 00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:51,420 the start line, to me, I think New York for me is going to be a 661 00:34:51,420 --> 00:34:55,100 one and done event. I want to experience it, but I 662 00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:58,940 want to experience it. The course is also very hilly 663 00:34:58,940 --> 00:35:02,210 and not as flat, and so I think it's gonna be one of those 664 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:05,770 experiences to see it, but not necessarily to keep coming back 665 00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:07,890 every year. Yeah, that's interesting. 666 00:35:07,890 --> 00:35:09,690 I don't know. I lived in New York, so I don't 667 00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:12,330 know New York would be pretty cool for me just to like run 668 00:35:12,330 --> 00:35:15,850 through the spots, cuz I've and not for a long period of time, 669 00:35:15,850 --> 00:35:17,290 but I lived there for several years. 670 00:35:17,290 --> 00:35:20,090 So I would know a lot of the neighborhoods and it would be 671 00:35:20,090 --> 00:35:21,850 interesting to me. We'll see. 672 00:35:22,010 --> 00:35:24,490 We'll have to ask after. Yeah, so. 673 00:35:25,410 --> 00:35:28,730 Next week, so next week, as we stated earlier, we're going to 674 00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:33,090 talk to Dr. Laura Lewis from the US Anti Doping Agency. 675 00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:36,690 We're going to ask her all these important questions, basic 676 00:35:36,690 --> 00:35:39,530 questions, important questions, just everything that we in the 677 00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:42,490 running community want to know about doping and how it's 678 00:35:42,490 --> 00:35:46,290 regulated nowadays, because I think it is a interesting and 679 00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:48,770 very current topic. Yeah. 680 00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:52,490 So we, you know, we've heard some talk back and forth about, 681 00:35:52,770 --> 00:35:56,210 you know the. The record marathon times and 682 00:35:56,530 --> 00:35:59,930 are they legitimate or not? There's so many confounding 683 00:35:59,930 --> 00:36:02,210 factors right now it seems because you have all these new 684 00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:04,330 technology with shoes and other stuff too. 685 00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:09,610 And then you've always got that question in the back of 686 00:36:09,610 --> 00:36:13,930 someone's head when record gets broken as to whether or not 687 00:36:13,930 --> 00:36:16,850 they're doing performance enhancing drugs or other things. 688 00:36:16,850 --> 00:36:20,450 So we thought it would be such a cool idea as why not go to the 689 00:36:20,450 --> 00:36:23,450 source and see? Kind of what they're looking for 690 00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:26,170 or kind of get the insight on people that are actually 691 00:36:26,170 --> 00:36:29,890 searching for and trying to legitimize these times. 692 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:32,570 Yeah, absolutely. So stay tuned for that. 693 00:36:32,970 --> 00:36:35,210 And if you're still here, thank you for listening. 694 00:36:35,650 --> 00:36:41,250 I hope we made Chicago appealing to you because it appeals to us 695 00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:43,930 a lot. Had a lot of fun at this race. 696 00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:47,690 And the Olympics is coming up and get involved. 697 00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:50,330 You know if you get some of these names in your head and you 698 00:36:50,330 --> 00:36:52,420 get like. You get people that you want to 699 00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:53,660 root for. It'd be kind of fun and 700 00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:55,500 exciting. You could even come down to 701 00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:58,500 Orlando and watch them race and get excited for the people that 702 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,820 might end up representing the US in the Olympics. 703 00:37:01,060 --> 00:37:05,100 Yes, exactly. And follow us on Instagram. 704 00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:09,260 We are at Running Podcast. We have a lot of photos from 705 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:12,660 Chicago and other fun things and we love to engage with you and 706 00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:14,780 with that. Have a good weekend running? 707 00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:22,450 Thanks for tuning in. For more information and 708 00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:24,370 marathon running news, please head to 709 00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:29,730 www.marathonrunningpodcast.com and we'll be back next week.