1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,120 You're listening to episode 237 of the Marathon Running Podcast. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,720 In this episode, we're going to talk about Christmas gifts for 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:17,880 runners for 2025. This is the Marathon Running 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,440 Podcast by Letty and Ryan from We Got the Runs. 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,760 Join us in our running community for weekly content that is 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,560 motivational, educational, and inspirational, and let the 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,400 Marathon Running podcast take you from the starting line to 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:39,240 the finish line and beyond. Hey runners, and welcome to 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,480 episode 237. My name is Letty. 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,120 My name is Ryan. And we are here doing the annual 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,600 podcast on all things Christmas gifts for runners because it's 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,760 that time of the year again. And then you're working on a 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,040 YouTube video also to accommodate the podcasts. 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,240 Yes, absolutely. Obviously, this is just a 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,600 podcast and we don't publish our episodes on YouTube, but we do 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,480 have a separate YouTube video in the making where we talk about 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,480 not just our little guideline of what gifts would be best for 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,560 runners, but we're also going to talk about some products. 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,960 So we're going to hop into that and that's going to be super 20 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:15,960 fun. So stay tuned. 21 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:17,960 Hopefully we'll have that out next week. 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,320 That's the goal. You've been busy doing videos 23 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:23,960 recently about the. Yes, the shoes, meaning the 24 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:28,920 shoes that I got to see at the running event in Texas I met 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,120 with, I think it was 30 or 40 brands, mostly shoe brands. 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,600 And I asked them a couple questions, not just what's new 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,240 for 2025, but also if they could explain their lineup of running 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,240 shoes because I find that's always really interesting, 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,880 right? If you're new to a line of 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,400 shoes, you hear a word like say, Asic's Nimbus, you have no idea 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,640 where that shoe fits in, if it's a stability shoe or anything 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,000 like that. So I had them kind of go a 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,600 little bit into that as well. And I've been publishing a video 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,120 a day, very short ones, just, you know, 3 to 5 minutes about 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,120 what's going on with those shoe lines and what'll be for 2025. 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,680 So if you're interested in getting some shoes and you want 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,320 to know more, you should check out the videos. 38 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,080 And what else is new lady? What else are you working on? 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,800 Yes, I've been working on a new project, a website with 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,200 linkscalledrunswag.com. And Letty, for my understanding, 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,040 the links you're getting could either be affiliate links or 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,920 discount links. The affiliate links would 43 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:28,440 potentially give us some money, but you've been trying to get 44 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:31,200 more of the discount links because we're trying to help you 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,240 guys or the people listener to make it to get a discount on 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,720 some of the stuff that they might want to buy. 47 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,240 Exactly right. And that's what it is. 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,880 We have been working on getting those links from various brands 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,920 and the list that you'll see when you go to runswag.com right 50 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:51,240 now is not going to be the finalized list, but you can 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,240 always come and check back. We are really trying to grow 52 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,840 this list not just with nutrition, but also apparel, 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:03,680 shoes, races, etcetera. So hopefully that'll be a more 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,640 heavily populated list as the as the years go by. 55 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:10,000 Ryan. Yeah, you'll probably always try 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,640 to keep working on it and make it bigger if you can. 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,520 Yes, absolutely. And if you guys use them like 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,920 even the discount ones, we might not get anything, but it might 59 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:20,000 give us more leverage in the future to try to get more 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,480 discounts. So it could help us out either 61 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,560 way. Yes, because with that list you 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,880 cannot just support your own shopping sprees, but you can 63 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,240 also support us if those are affiliate links. 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,040 So we would appreciate you checking that list out and 65 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,040 letting us know what else you guys feel like should be on 66 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,400 there etcetera. So you want to get into today's 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,720 topic then? Yes, and today's topic, as we 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:47,080 mentioned is a Christmas buying gift guide for your running 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,480 friends. So Letty, this year you 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,960 organized it into beginner, intermediate, advanced runners. 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,000 So depending on the person you're getting the gift for and 72 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,080 what level they're at in, my gift might be a little 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,880 different. Exactly. 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Last year we kind of had more of a budget type of structured gift 75 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,720 list. Now we're switching it up 76 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,040 because you can have beginner friends that you are just 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,960 acquaintances with. And so that would be more of a 78 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,200 low budget gift. Whereas you can also have your 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,600 best friend, spouse that you're trying to get into running more 80 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,920 marathons. And obviously it's in your own 81 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,520 interest and in their interest to spend a little bit more money 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,680 on on that person in that in that sense. 83 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,160 You're trying to hint at what you want for Christmas, lady. 84 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,160 I want you. I want the gift of you. 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,480 Starting to run more Ryan. So what's first on your list, 86 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,600 lady? So first on my list is the 87 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,840 beginner runner and obviously the beginner runner, when you 88 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:47,440 look at that person, you want to have them feel as comfortable as 89 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,440 possible. You want them to potentially 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,600 prevent injuries that could happen and you want to make 91 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,560 running accessible for them so they keep doing it. 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,480 So beginners are just getting started. 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,800 So GIF should kind of focus on that essential gear to make sure 94 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,960 that they run and have an enjoyable experience. 95 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 And again, you know, stay injury free. 96 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Makes sense. So some of the things I might 97 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,920 think about are like, you know, nice shoes that would be 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,200 supportive and comfortable. Maybe headphones or some way to 99 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,080 access music or media so that they don't get bored while 100 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:28,320 they're running. Maybe some books or tips on how 101 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,640 to approach training? Yes, exactly. 102 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,520 That's kind of what I have on my list when it comes to shoes. 103 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,560 I think don't just go buy them shoes, take them to a proper 104 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,880 running store. Obviously this is for the 105 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,760 beginner runner that you're close with, right? 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,680 If it's just a friend, you just tell them to go to a running 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,480 store. You can get them a gift 108 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000 certificate for for shoes, but have them get their feet 109 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,080 measured. See if they over pronate or 110 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,960 what's going on, what type of gait they have. 111 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,320 So they have a little bit more of an idea what type of foot 112 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,600 they have and whether they require a stability shoe or 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,320 whatever else it is, and then they can get properly fitted. 114 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Obviously, we're in a time where you can purchase anything 115 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,600 online. And I think also we can say 116 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,440 safely that at this time all brands are maybe known for 117 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,760 something, but they have something for everyone else. 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,240 Like say for example, Hoka, they used to be the plush cushion 119 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,240 shoe, but now they also have race shoes. 120 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,400 You know what I mean? Yeah, I think a lot of the shoe 121 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,720 brands have expanded out and I think instead of having niche 122 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,040 markets for each brand, they've kind of tried to encompass as 123 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,320 many much as they can. Exactly. 124 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,240 And as we know, I mean I guess as I know from from experience 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,320 and everything, running stores can't sell you literally all 126 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,160 types of shoes. A lot of them have agreements 127 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,720 with certain brands that they can't sell different 128 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,000 competitors, etcetera. So it's hard to just say go to 1 129 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,920 running store and get fitted because again, there's so many 130 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,920 options, but at least get fitted and get yourself a beginner 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,360 running shoe, you know, from one of the big brands. 132 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,640 And then from that you can always, as you advance in 133 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,840 running, find other shoes from other brands. 134 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,920 Yeah. Like maybe if someone that 135 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,680 you're going to be running with or friend, you could have, you 136 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,280 could kind of get them on the brands that you like, but maybe 137 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,440 a different type of shoe that might be more specific to their 138 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,640 type of running being that they're starting out. 139 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,640 Exactly, so that's that for shoes. 140 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,920 I also have on a list clothing and with that I mean, you know, 141 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,640 the basic moisture wicking clothing that you wear for 142 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:38,240 comfort and and of course, if you're a lady, sports bras. 143 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,880 If you're a guy, that means shorts that fit you right where 144 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,840 you don't get any type of chafing. 145 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Yeah, shoes might be difficult, you know, for certain people to 146 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,400 to get the right type or people might be more specific about 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,360 what they like. But I think with closing 148 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,840 clothing, it might be a little bit easier if you get them a 149 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,440 good fabric and you know, comfortable fabric there. 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,640 It's probably easier to just to give to somebody and they 151 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,920 appreciate it rather than shoes, but. 152 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Except for sports bras because some of us are complicated with 153 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,560 sports bras but then others are super easy with them. 154 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,600 I wish I was easier. I think that's my one 155 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,480 complicated item. Everything else is pretty 156 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,000 easygoing, but yes. So clothing that is moisture 157 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,520 wicking because your friend probably only has cotton shirts 158 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,880 and now needs to wear something that doesn't soak up all the 159 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,600 sweat. Again, we're doing this for 160 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,000 comfort and making the run more pleasant. 161 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,799 Now, when it comes to accessories, there are certain 162 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:34,760 things that every runner could have. 163 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,679 If they are morning runners, you could get them reflective arm 164 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,039 bands, which are also you kind of like the stuff stocking 165 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,120 stuffer items. You could get them socks, 166 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,280 running socks. You could get them the Runners 167 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,840 World calendar every year that has inspirational quotes. 168 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Also for accessories, I think you could get them something 169 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,920 like a running belt if they don't have one yet, which is 170 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,320 what you're gonna use when you run a little bit further to not 171 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,760 just carry your keys in but also maybe carry some gels in. 172 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,880 Yeah, that's a good idea. Another subcategory I have on my 173 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,600 list is tech stuff, right? Because when you start running 174 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,920 in the beginning, maybe you just use your phone to track your 175 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,200 runs, of course on Strava because you know, you gotta have 176 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,640 it on Strava. But maybe you're a beginner 177 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,920 runner, wants to have a running watch. 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,000 So you could look into some of the watches. 179 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,000 We are very familiar with Garmin, but but now we're also 180 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,760 testing a Sunto watch, which might be even better. 181 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,200 We'll let you guys know. Other tech items are heart rate 182 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,760 monitors. Gotta remember the headphones. 183 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,160 Yes, headphones, so they don't get bored. 184 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,920 Of course. Tell them to subscribe to the 185 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,000 Marathon Running Podcast for tips and tricks and 186 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,640 entertainment. That's a free gift. 187 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,800 That's a free gift. Yeah. 188 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,720 You don't even have to subscribe to us. 189 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:55,000 But yes, subscribe, it's still free. 190 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,480 Yes. And then my last subcategory on 191 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,720 there, I have training. When it comes to training, maybe 192 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,520 you get the motivated with a running plan that you can just 193 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,200 find online. I know there is the couch to 5K 194 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,480 for the real beginners. And then there are other 195 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:18,560 platforms such as Runna or the Hal Higdon plans, where you can 196 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:24,200 either have a free plan or you can subscribe and get something 197 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,400 very basic, but just something that keeps the person, what is 198 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,680 that word I'm looking for? Accountable so they can hold 199 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:35,400 themselves accountable to something so they'll keep doing 200 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,240 it. Yeah, there are a lot of free 201 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,480 things too, you know, like the the even the podcast that we 202 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,800 have has a lot of good information on it, but that you 203 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,720 alluded to too, like training programs and things like that. 204 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Or there's a lot of free training programs online or, or 205 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,480 structures. Obviously you could give them 206 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,000 buy them something too, but I'm just saying like it'd be 207 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,360 interesting. It'd be cool to have like a 208 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,960 little package of stuff and tips and tricks so that tricks so 209 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:03,360 that they can get started and and on their running venture or 210 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,600 or improve on their running venture. 211 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,000 I know that if you if you get good information about training 212 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,520 and and learn to start or learn to do it right from the 213 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,080 beginning, I think just that progress helps motivate you to 214 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,840 continue. Yeah, I like that. 215 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,600 I like that idea of maybe creating a little outline for 216 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,440 them. Yeah, I don't know if you you 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:32,480 have to do it carefully so you don't feel seem bossy or but I 218 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,440 think like at least give him giving him some resources or so 219 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:38,400 making a little package gift package together or something. 220 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,560 It might be kind of neat. And I think you have a good 221 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:43,440 point with that because most of us runners are kind of type A 222 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,840 and we love talking about running. 223 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,080 So when we get the chance, you know, I've had that new friend. 224 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,160 I actually have a new friend, no old friend, but new to running 225 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,320 friend in Chicago, and she mentioned she wanted to run. 226 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,000 So there I am sending her a pair of shoes and all this advice and 227 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,360 it's maybe a little bit too unsolicited and maybe a little 228 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,400 bit too much. I don't know. 229 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,520 There's a fine line. You guys know how it goes. 230 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,120 It's like with anything in life. So you're running on thin ice 231 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,880 with her? Yeah, a little bit. 232 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,360 She hasn't texted me in a while. So we talked about training and 233 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,680 some clothing and shoes and electronics. 234 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:24,840 And what about like recovery? Yes, that's a huge point, Ryan, 235 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,880 because obviously when somebody is new to running, they might 236 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,680 they might need recovery items even more than somebody who's 237 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:37,120 more seasoned in it and has figured out more access to it. 238 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,760 So maybe you know like a foam roller or something basic 239 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,480 massage tools like a handheld massage gun or even a gift 240 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,440 certificate to a massage place. But I don't know if that's 241 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,520 overdoing it. I think for that beginner 242 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,720 runner, maybe it's just good to keep them, you know, low mileage 243 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,840 and hopefully not to where they feel like they really need a 244 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,760 massage yet. I don't know, I don't, I don't 245 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,360 think I think those are good ideas. 246 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,280 I think that they also apply not just to running, but to anyone 247 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,600 that might be athletic at all. So it that's a little bit maybe 248 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,560 a less pushy of a gift as opposed to like something that's 249 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,160 very specific running, especially because we're talking 250 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,960 about beginners, right? We're not talking about someone 251 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,680 that is obviously invested in into running and going to do it 252 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:26,040 for the long term. You know, when you're talking 253 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,520 about people that are kind of just starting out and and you 254 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,840 may or may not take the path of becoming a runner or doing 255 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,720 something else. I think if you have recovery 256 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,800 items it can be useful in more than one sport or athletic. 257 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Yeah, you're probably right. And you're getting them into the 258 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,520 right habit of using those tools before, you know, whereas we 259 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,320 need, we use them on an as need basis versus, you know, really 260 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,840 doing it when we should be doing it, which is kind of after 261 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,600 everyone. So what about the intermediate 262 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,400 all? Right. 263 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,840 So the intermediate runner is a runner where we are thinking 264 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,440 more about performance optimization and enhancing 265 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,560 training variety. So intermediate runners often 266 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:09,240 experiment with different running techniques and so they 267 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,400 need to have gear that supports that diverse training a little 268 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,080 bit more. When it comes to shoes, they 269 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,680 know more than the beginner runner. 270 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:21,320 So for them it's not that you need to get them an entry level 271 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,400 shoe, but maybe you want to think about different types of 272 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,320 shoes. I think a beginner runner is 273 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,520 good running all the runs in a very versatile shoe, whereas the 274 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,800 intermediate runner runs easy runs, recovery runs, race day 275 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,600 tempo runs. And I feel like it's nice to 276 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,040 have different type of shoe styles for that, you know, like 277 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,680 a lightweight for speed work or a cushioned shoe for long runs. 278 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,480 That may be harder to shop for too, because they might already 279 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,040 have kind of specific things that they like. 280 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,720 But hopefully if not, you could maybe put on put something new 281 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,760 in their radar, you know, a new type of shoe that they might be 282 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,880 helped by or. Yeah, or maybe you know that at 283 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,880 this point they're going through shoes a little faster than the 284 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,080 beginner runner and you know the type of shoe that they want and 285 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,640 you can replace one of their shoes once they hit that mileage 286 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,240 that people do not want to go over. 287 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,840 Now when it comes to clothing again, they probably have 288 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,640 moisture. We can close already. 289 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,800 So maybe it's time to think about some compression gear for 290 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,840 recovery runs or a lightweight training jacket because they'll 291 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,040 be running more in the season. Maybe the beginner will skip a 292 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,640 run when it's too cold, but this one is kind of more dire, hard 293 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,520 going out when it's cold. What do you think about that? 294 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Yeah, it kind of makes sense. I mean, you can expand on the 295 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,960 the typical clothes you might use and and add clothes for 296 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,960 adverse, you know, or atypical conditions that they might not 297 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 have yet. You know, I think that makes 298 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,200 sense. Yes, especially if this is their 299 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:08,040 first season there over being an intro runner and now are really 300 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,040 running all year round and they don't live in Florida where it's 301 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,960 the same weather all the time. Also, maybe when it comes to 302 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,720 accessories, we could talk a little bit more about running 303 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,760 nutrition, running gels, because I'm thinking the intermediate 304 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,880 runner probably runs longer, runs in the beginning runner and 305 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,520 I feel like after a certain mileage point and I'm a 306 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,040 nutritionist obviously, but for me it's around 10 or 12 miles. 307 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,040 If I want to run more than that, I start taking gels. 308 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,480 I know a lot of people do it after the first hour or so. 309 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,080 So maybe think about getting them a variety pack of gels so 310 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,040 they can experiment what gels they like. 311 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,360 Or if they already if you already know what type of gel 312 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,200 they like then you can get them gels because those gels will get 313 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,720 eaten and those gels come at a higher price point than they did 314 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,800 like 10 years ago. Yeah, I think consumables are 315 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,000 always some of the things that are useful if people are going 316 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,840 to, they're going to use them anyway. 317 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,119 So you don't have to, you know, buy them something that they're 318 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,200 going to be married to for the next however many years or 319 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,280 months that they use it. You know, with gels or something 320 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:20,040 that's consumable, it's, it can just be used quickly and, and it 321 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 can help them out when I they don't have to buy themselves. 322 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,560 Exactly, because those gels do add up now when it comes to tech 323 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,880 stuff. If they don't have a running 324 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,480 watch yet, then think about getting them a running watch. 325 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,360 But if they do have one, maybe think about other electronic 326 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:36,840 stuff that could help them with their training. 327 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,760 If they're really serious about it, you could think about 328 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:44,120 getting them a heart rate strap or some stride pot, which is, 329 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,200 you know, the foot pot that we have never talked about, you and 330 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,920 I haven't, but it's, you know, it measures your power and 331 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,320 watts. It's just another way of 332 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,080 collecting data. So maybe if they're techie and 333 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,960 they want to do that, you know, get them that. 334 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,960 Yeah, yeah. And for additional technology 335 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,920 type gifts, you could consider getting them a subscription to 336 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,520 maybe some of their favorite fitness programs, or whether it 337 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,000 be training programs or Strava or other things, whatever they 338 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,840 like. Yeah, and I think that kind of 339 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,240 double S as a motivator. Strava subscriptions can be fun 340 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:28,040 when people use Strava as social media, but also want to analyze 341 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,480 their data a little bit more. If they travel a lot, they can 342 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,840 see heat maps of where people run, etcetera. 343 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,240 There's a lot of features that the subscribed version of Strava 344 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,760 has. And those plans, you know, they 345 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,280 can run fairly low if you join along with other friends, I 346 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,840 think you can have a family that doesn't have to be a real 347 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,840 family, you know, just a group of five people. 348 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,400 And you can get a pretty low subscription. 349 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,440 And it can add to your fun if Strava is what you're into and 350 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,440 if if you're enjoying that, yeah. 351 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,720 So another area to think of GIFs is training. 352 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,680 I think with training, when you're more the intermediate 353 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,200 runner, they're more likely to be committed. 354 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:12,480 And so you can consider maybe getting them, you know, either 355 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,280 what it, whether it be like coaching for a little while with 356 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,560 an individual coach or sometimes they have paid training programs 357 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,840 that give you a little bit more feedback and information than 358 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,720 just the free ones you can find online. 359 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,280 And some of those might be helpful, maybe somebody's 360 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,240 intermediate runner, but you know, they need a little kicker 361 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,320 motivation or one more excitement. 362 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,320 And some of that might, you know, get them over a little 363 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,320 plateau and get them excited again and running. 364 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,720 I like that. I think a personal coach can be 365 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,560 really good for a person that is very motivated to improve and 366 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,400 wants to go a little bit beyond. Or somebody that has a lot of 367 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,920 scheduling conflicts. Say for example, you are a nurse 368 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:02,280 and you work one week on, one week off, and so you have a 369 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,880 whole week of. Where you can't train as much as 370 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,840 the next week and you're sleep deprived. 371 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,520 I think it's hard to adjust all that stuff yourself. 372 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,480 And with a coach that you're paying, you're basically paying 373 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,160 them to do that and also you give them feedback. 374 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,880 So if you've had a very groggy night of sleep and you tell them 375 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,520 that they can adjust everything for you so you can still 376 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,880 progress in it. I've seen huge improvements 377 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,560 myself using a run coach and it was really nice to give that 378 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,080 feedback because you know, if you have some kind of niggles 379 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,080 going on, they'll hold you back a little bit and maybe that'll 380 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,680 prevent injuries. And again, that's kind of the 381 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,400 whole goal, Prevent injury, improve, etcetera. 382 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,440 Yeah, and scientifically, the body's a good at adjusting to 383 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,280 what you do. So if you stay very consistent 384 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,880 with the type of training and everything you do, your body can 385 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,880 adjust to it and you can get to these plateaus. 386 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,400 A lot of times we we don't seem to advance. 387 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:05,480 So maybe you coming in or someone coming in as a friend to 388 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,280 mix it up a bit and give you some, you know, training in a 389 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,400 different style or even just like give you something that 390 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,400 they can give you full feedback, can get you over those plateaus 391 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,080 and and get you excited again, like I said. 392 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,640 I agree. Now when it comes to recovery, 393 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,520 Ryan, what do you think an intermediate could benefit more 394 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,560 so from than an an A beginner runner? 395 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,720 Because with a beginner runner, we did talk about how important 396 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,280 that recovery is and getting into the habit of doing it. 397 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,480 But what do you think you could add here for an intermediate 398 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,680 runner and do a little bit differently? 399 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Yeah, I'm not sure. I think as an intermediate 400 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,160 runner, you know, you, if you know them, you might know how 401 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,280 how they do recovery as it is and that way you can get them 402 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,040 something they already like. But also maybe what type of 403 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,800 injuries they have or that they tend are prone to can help, you 404 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,360 know cater towards more specific things as opposed to a beginner 405 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,000 runner that hasn't really started yet. 406 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:13,160 You're kind of more general. That's a really good point, 407 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,920 right? I like that. 408 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,760 All right, so now we're going to move on to the advanced runner. 409 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,000 So when we're thinking about our advanced running friend and what 410 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,680 gift we could get them, we are thinking about helping them 411 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,920 maximize their performance, maximize their recovery, and 412 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,520 achieving really all the personal goals they have set. 413 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,960 The advanced runner knows what they want, they know what their 414 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,680 shortcomings are, and often they require specialized tools and 415 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,840 gear for intense training and their competitive racing. 416 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,560 Yeah, I think the more advanced might be even more difficult 417 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,000 because they're kind of, they could be set in their ways or 418 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,760 they've kind of gone through and they know what they like and 419 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,360 what they don't like. So in some ways it can be more 420 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:57,880 difficult, but in other ways, maybe if you know them well 421 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,800 enough, it can be easier because you can just get them what they 422 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,960 like. You know, if they're looking at 423 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,960 a new pair of race shoes or something like that, you can 424 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,280 just, you can get it for them. I agree with that, and I guess I 425 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,080 consider myself an advanced runner not because I'm fast at 426 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,880 all, but because I've been doing it for so many years. 427 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,800 And just to think, if my mom would show up with a pair of 428 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,520 running shoes for me, I think my only thought would be, I hope 429 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:30,080 there's a gift receipt because I probably know more about running 430 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280 than she does. And so that's another thing you 431 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,200 kind of have to watch out for. Where are you compared to that 432 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,960 runner? Because you know you got to gift 433 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,960 them accordingly. Hopefully you will know them 434 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,720 well and then you can you can get them something that they 435 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,600 already like or they're likely to use. 436 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,920 Yes. And again, when it comes to 437 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,560 shoes, in that instance, I would say if you know, for example, 438 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,960 you'd love the Nike Alpha Flies, you can get them a gift 439 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,880 certificate for Nike and then they can pick that same shoe or 440 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,160 they can try to find something different because sometimes 441 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,960 maybe that's what they want to do. 442 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,320 Maybe they are open to trying a recovery shoe, a shoe that has 443 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,840 completely nothing to do with running, but that would be a 444 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,240 shoe that they would wear after they're done running and that 445 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,360 would feel good. Yeah, I think with with clothing 446 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,080 again if you if you're going for running specific clothing that 447 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,320 can be difficult. They probably are established, 448 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,480 but if you know what they like, you can get it for them. 449 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,280 What other options could be like you can get them regular shirts 450 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,200 that just are about running. Like lifestyle running shirts. 451 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,600 Yeah, like something that says something running on it. 452 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,760 So that's not something that they may use running, but since 453 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,000 they love running so much, they can just go around in a regular 454 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560 shirt. But it it references running. 455 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,960 I want that for Christmas, right? 456 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560 I think that's something because at that point when you call 457 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,640 yourself an advanced runner, you identify as a runner. 458 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,920 And so you probably that person that at work and everywhere else 459 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,480 talks about running and where is there a medal for Medal Monday. 460 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,400 And so I think that's a great idea. 461 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,160 Yeah, I think also it's just probably easier to not get the 462 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,120 wrong thing. Like if they're an advanced 463 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,240 runner and it's if it's something they're using for 464 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,040 running, they they might have a very specific, in very detailed 465 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,760 like list of things that you want to get out of a running 466 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,560 shirt. But if you give them a lifestyle 467 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040 type shirt, then they're not going to care so much. 468 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,920 It's just something that they wear around casually. 469 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,720 That's very, very true. However, if you do know that 470 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,600 person well, I think a personalized race kit is really 471 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,520 cool. I know Nike does sell them, not 472 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,800 in bulk, but for single persons, and it's a singlet and you can 473 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,160 put your name on it. You can personalize the colors 474 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,680 and everything, and they usually come with a pair of shorts. 475 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,480 I was actually gonna get that for me. 476 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,560 I was gonna get it for you, but you don't really want to wear 477 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,520 the short shorts that I would want you to wear. 478 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,600 But so they have all kinds of stuff for that. 479 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,200 That sounds like a good idea. I think if they get to kind of 480 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,200 pick it out too, that might be kind of neat. 481 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,280 Yeah, absolutely. So that's that for clothing. 482 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,680 Now when it comes to accessories for the advanced runner, again, 483 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560 they probably already have that hydration belt, etcetera. 484 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,200 So maybe think about other things that could benefit the 485 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,720 runner without being actual running gear. 486 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,560 And again, Ryan, this is kind of along the lines of what you were 487 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,200 saying with the shirts that are not for running. 488 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,400 Maybe get them running books or things that they cannot just 489 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,200 learn from, but also things that keep them really motivated. 490 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,840 Yeah, you've had some podcasts with some authors that have 491 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,480 given some good information and that might be something neat for 492 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,720 somebody to to read in their spare time. 493 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,080 Yeah, absolutely. There's a ton of good running 494 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,480 books, you know, besides the two that I always talk about, and we 495 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,520 can probably try to also list them on our website, 496 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,480 runswag.com, so you guys can check those out. 497 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,000 I think those would make for really, really good gifts. 498 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,960 Another thing that I can think about that's kind of accessory 499 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,840 like, or have it in the miscellaneous category would be 500 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,920 race bibs or trip gift certificates. 501 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,640 Because race entries for marathons can be pretty 502 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,080 expensive. So maybe your runner doesn't 503 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,840 need the motivation to go, but maybe having that financial help 504 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,400 can be great. And as long as you know that 505 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,720 they wanted to run that race anyway, that'd be kind of cool. 506 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,200 Yeah, and even if it's not a specific race, you could help 507 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,160 them out or contribute to whatever race they might want to 508 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,920 do. All right. 509 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,600 So other than that, when it comes to technology stuff, you 510 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,520 know, they already have a watch, but maybe it's time to upgrade 511 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,840 that watch. Watches come in different 512 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,320 categories of of how much they are. 513 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,960 And maybe, you know, maybe they've entered multi sports and 514 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,200 they're wearing a Garmin forerunner and there's better 515 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,120 watches like the Garmin Phoenix for multi sports. 516 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,200 There's, you know, certain limitations. 517 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,160 For example, I know that the Garmin that we have is super 518 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:07,120 good for running, which is the Garmin 265 S, but it has while 519 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,080 it has the sport of swimming on the watch, it doesn't really 520 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,680 doesn't do it in real time. When you're at a pool, you have 521 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,520 to put in the lap. Whereas the Phoenix, I think it 522 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,120 kind of, I think it can kind of detect that swim, but. 523 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,160 Yeah, I think, I think that that one can be difficult because I 524 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,240 think it's someone something you have to really know about the 525 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,160 person and know kind of what they're looking for, what 526 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,280 they're potentially going to get next. 527 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,640 But but if you do, that's a good opportunity. 528 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,240 Yeah, exactly. And then when it comes to 529 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,080 training, they probably have picked their coach again, just 530 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,280 financial contribution to help them out paying for that coach 531 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,760 maybe right, because you're, if you're an advanced runner, you 532 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,240 don't really need help figuring out what coaching you need. 533 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,480 I think with the advanced runner, you know, they're likely 534 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,000 have already ventured into some of the coaching or some of the 535 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,920 at least options that are out there that might go back to, you 536 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,320 know, books again, you know, a good read about a different type 537 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,440 of training philosophy or something always can be 538 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:14,560 beneficial, but is less imposing than say a training program or a 539 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,560 coach specifically. I feel like as people are more 540 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,720 in the advanced stage, they are maybe less likely to take advice 541 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,320 from somebody. And again, it goes back to what 542 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,280 you were saying, like very specific advice, like if you're 543 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,080 if you're a runner and you're an intermediate and you're trying 544 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,200 to get something for your advanced friend, they're 545 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,120 probably be less open to recommendations for certain 546 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,360 things, but. Yeah, make sure that you run 547 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,040 faster than the friend you're. Lifting things for if you're 548 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,400 going to recommend them, something specific like that. 549 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,760 But there are plenty of like you were alluding to, like there are 550 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,560 plenty of books or other things that are less I guess. 551 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,200 Intrusive. Intrusive thank you but yet can 552 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,520 still help them out or they might find fascinating and 553 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,040 interesting. Exactly. 554 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Along with that, I think subscriptions to runners World 555 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200 and things that you know they enjoy because they're advanced 556 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880 runners would always be good. And then last up at least we're 557 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,960 going to tackle the recovery sector here. 558 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,040 I think, again, they kind of know what they want, but give 559 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,280 certificates to the, I don't know, cryotherapy place of their 560 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,920 choice. Or maybe you want to get them 561 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,720 the Normatech boots because they don't have them yet. 562 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,120 What do you think, Ryan? Yeah, I mean, I think, I think 563 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,200 probably then you could maybe go into more like massage therapy 564 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,800 or things like that that they might enjoy again. 565 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,760 It's almost like a consumable in a way. 566 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,560 You know something if especially if you know what they already do 567 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,880 and what they use. It's less like like we were 568 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,480 saying, it's kind of less intrusive if it's a consumable 569 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,440 type of thing because they they like, Oh yeah, it might be neat. 570 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,880 They get a little massage, they get stuff. 571 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,720 But then they're not kind of married to that for the next 572 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,560 however long as they would be something to purchase as an 573 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,080 object or something like that. But. 574 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,800 I like that like a post race massage that they can go to and 575 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,000 you're not messing with their training. 576 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,200 I do think though, if they have expressed in the past that they 577 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,440 are struggling with nutrition and just, you know, Congrats to 578 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,960 all intermediate and advanced, then maybe a consultation with a 579 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,640 nutritionist just to again help them maximize, optimize 580 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,000 everything that they are trying to do to reach a goal would be 581 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,120 also kind of good. Yeah, I think sometimes a 582 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,400 nutritionist may be something that has been overlooked in the 583 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,400 running journey. And so that that might be an 584 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,680 option and something that they might not have already 585 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,560 established or thought about, even though that they're more 586 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,720 advanced. Exactly. 587 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,160 Yeah. And so I guess now we talked 588 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,600 about beginner intermediate in advance, but right, we have not 589 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,640 talked about your friends from the running club. 590 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,000 So kind of think more acquaintances, kind of think a 591 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,680 little bit more low budget because there is a ton of them. 592 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,960 Like maybe you go run every Sunday and they send people and 593 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,800 you don't want to break the bank, but just something that 594 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,120 says, hey, Merry Christmas, you're cool, we run together, 595 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,160 but you don't know them that well. 596 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,880 What are your thoughts for obviously we're not going to get 597 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,760 them shoes, right? No, I think that's a great idea 598 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,040 though. I think, you know, a lot of 599 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,080 times people do just enjoy meeting up with each other and 600 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,160 going for runs, but you could definitely kind of, you know, 601 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:34,160 increase the mood or you know, pleasure of everyone if you get 602 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,800 them some cool little gift or something. 603 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,680 It just makes makes the group happy. 604 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,560 And it could literally be anything. 605 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,280 This could even include coffee because people get up early to 606 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,680 run and a lot of them you do run with and then afterwards you go 607 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,240 have coffee with them. You know, like coffee, you know 608 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,560 they like coffee. So maybe you get them some 609 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560 coffee or get them a mug that says runner on it. 610 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,720 You could even start a trend. I mean, we and when we were 611 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,920 running in LA, it was a lot of fun always just to go to, you 612 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,560 know, get breakfast afterwards. But maybe you can do some 613 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,160 Vitamol to like you said, like a coffee or something, something 614 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,160 simple like a breakfast and maybe you'll start a new trend 615 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,400 and everyone will go there in the mornings and you know, it'll 616 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840 improve your everyone's day. Yeah. 617 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,960 Or if you're already going to a place, maybe get them a gift 618 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,240 certificate. We used to go to Paneras. 619 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,160 I don't know what you're talking about. 620 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,240 We used to go to Paneras every Sunday after the run with our 621 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,320 group of, I don't know, 5 to 15 people, and that was super fun. 622 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,080 So maybe for this it would have been a Panera gift certificate. 623 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,200 Other things that you can get them that are not going to break 624 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:43,040 your bank could be running hats or it could be a running buff or 625 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,880 something from your local store that says your city on it for 626 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,280 runners. You can get like a group 627 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,600 T-shirts or something. Oh, that's kind of fun. 628 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,440 I like that. You can. 629 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,160 You can get them water bottles that are personalized reflective 630 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,760 gear, gloves, I don't know, even make them a little bag of 631 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:08,360 cookies or protein bars or even motivational items such as 632 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,760 running quotes or a running calendar or something like that. 633 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,440 Yeah, I think that that's that group of people is sometimes 634 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,120 overlooked, but it could definitely make a lot of 635 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,320 people's days. Exactly, I I agree with you and 636 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,760 that's not over or that's not overlook them. 637 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Another person that I don't even have on my list that I usually 638 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,760 don't overlook is your running coach. 639 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,960 Your running coach is someone that you will get to know well, 640 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,480 depending on. Obviously, if you're training 641 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,400 with Hal Higdon and you're doing the free training plan and he's 642 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,280 your running coach, you don't get to know him personally. 643 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,000 But if you have a running coach that you know personally, then 644 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:55,080 show them your appreciation. You know they work hard and 645 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,280 analyze what you do in order to help you reach your goals. 646 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,960 So why not think about them for a second and get them what you 647 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,440 think they like? Ron Tab has been my running 648 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,160 coach for years and years and I've gotten to know him very 649 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,600 well over the years as along with his wife Tracy. 650 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,840 And I know he loves travelling to Germany. 651 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,240 So one year I made him a gift basket with all kinds of German 652 00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:24,160 items in it, snacks he does like German beer and all that stuff. 653 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,920 Doesn't have to be running related, but definitely pay 654 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,160 attention to what they like and maybe brighten their day. 655 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,600 I know you pay them to be a running coach, but still you 656 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,200 build that personal relationship. 657 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,040 So I think that's kind of beautiful. 658 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,120 Yeah, I think if you're still looking for ideas and people to 659 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,680 give gifts to, that's a good one too. 660 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,640 Exactly. And then of course, the gift 661 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,440 that doesn't cost you anything, which is just a simple thank you 662 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,880 to your partner for watching the kids while you run, to your 663 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,520 kids, for drawing those signs when they come out to watch you 664 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,320 racing, to your mother, your dad, you know, everybody 665 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,640 involved in your life in any way that is supportive of you. 666 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,000 You can tell them thank you, you, because obviously it makes 667 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,520 a difference when you get to do what you love to do and have 668 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,960 people behind you. I mean, thank you. 669 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,120 Give me some gifts. No, just kidding. 670 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,840 But yeah, you could, you could consider that too. 671 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,920 I mean, even though that's not really running specific, but if 672 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,280 you have someone that helps you out in your running, you can try 673 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480 to get them something or remember them and give them 674 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,160 something that they might like. And say thank you along with 675 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,840 that. Mm, hmm. 676 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,680 You're welcome. So, any final thoughts or ideas? 677 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,800 No. Do you think we talked about 678 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,760 everything? Yeah, I think hopefully if you 679 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,400 do a video, you can give them some examples of maybe more 680 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,960 specifics or things that they can go out and get. 681 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,240 But hopefully that gives people an outline of maybe or maybe 682 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,400 helps people narrow down their gift giving ideas based on their 683 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,600 the type of runner they're getting it for. 684 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,440 Yes, absolutely. And definitely tune into our 685 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,920 YouTube because we are going to be talking about products, 686 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,280 they're a lot more than here and we'll be able to have those 687 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,120 links as we talked about earlier. 688 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,160 So that concludes this week's episode on Gift Ideas. 689 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,960 Yes. And I hope it was helpful for 690 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,320 you guys. And if it was, we invite you to 691 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040 please leave a five star review for us. 692 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,840 Not four stars, 5 stars. So stay tuned for next week. 693 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,760 Because we're going to have another amazing podcast and with 694 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,240 that. Have a good week of running. 695 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,640 Thanks for tuning in. For more information and 696 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,560 marathon running news, please head to 697 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,880 www.marathonrunningpodcast.com and we'll be back next week.