1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,440 This episode has been sponsored by a generation. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,480 You can more about our sponsor later on in the show. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,160 You're listening to episode 195 of the Marathon Running Podcast. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,160 In this episode we're going to tell you how to convert your non 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:26,640 running friends into runners. This is the Marathon Running 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,200 podcast by Letty and Ryan from We Got The Runs. 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,520 Join us in our running community for weekly content that is 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,320 motivational, educational, and inspirational, and that the 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Marathon Running Podcast take you from the starting line to 10 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:49,120 the finish line and beyond. Hey, runners, and welcome to 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Episode 195. My Name Is Letty. 12 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:54,120 My name is Ryan. And we are the host of this 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,520 weekly podcast. We're back with a very fun 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,920 episode which will teach you how to make your loved ones into 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,360 runners. Make them subscribe to the 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,400 Marathon Running podcast. And that's it. 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,480 And with that? Have a great week of running? 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,920 No, just kidding. We're just kidding. 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,680 So thank you to everyone for tuning in. 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,760 If you are a new listener, we do have a weekly podcast where we 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,000 give you a lot of information. Experts based advice, et cetera. 22 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,680 And some podcasts. Just tips like this one. 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,680 Yes, and this is kind of a spinoff. 24 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,560 I recently listened to an audio book on my drive back from 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,320 Orlando, and it was a book called How to Win Friends and 26 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:35,480 Influence People by Dale Carnegie, which was kind of 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,120 interesting. It's a book from the 1930s that 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:44,120 has some good pointers that are, you know, still very, very valid 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,800 today. And I feel like a lot of people 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,720 that have written books after him have kind of used his tips. 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,480 And so look at the book. I'm bringing this up because it 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,680 kind of make me think about today's topic. 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,400 I recently had an influx of running friends that have 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:04,560 spouses that they are trying to turn into runners and Ryan, Just 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,479 as a spouse yourself and you trying to convince me to join 36 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:13,280 some of your sports, what do you think are some reasons why you 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,640 would want to make another person join your sport and you 38 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:19,000 know, try to make them fall in love with it as well? 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,920 Well, so far I've been much less successful in getting you to 40 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,240 join my sports as you've been getting me to join your sport. 41 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,920 So maybe you should be the one that gives tips to hey, not me. 42 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:31,440 But like with any thing some, it's a lot of times it's more 43 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,840 fun to have someone with you. It doesn't have to be a spouse, 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,480 but it could be a friend or someone else. 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Most things are more fun with when shared with others as 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,760 opposed to by yourself. But. 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,160 But not just fun, Also shared pain, right? 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,960 That's one of the things I've written down when I thought 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,920 about this shared pain. Because nothing says I love you 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,920 like commiserating over muscle soreness or mileage that you're 51 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:55,560 trying to hit, and you can't quite make it. 52 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Misery loves company. Exactly. 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,480 Another reason to convince your, and in this case spouse or a 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,640 loved one that you're cohabitating with is because it 55 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:10,000 makes for guilt free spending. Because you know when you're 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,640 doing something that your spouse doesn't do, you're having to 57 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:18,240 justify why you're spending this much money on a running shoe. 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Just think about the Super shoes now that we have you know a pair 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:27,640 of alpha flies is now $275 and the non running spouse or I 60 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:29,400 guess I'm just going to call a partner from now on. 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,800 I guess the non running partner is going to be like why are you 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,720 spending this much money on a shoe? 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,720 Whereas if your partner is also a runner then they understand 64 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,040 why you definitely need that super shoe and you can splurge 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,560 on that. Same with race entry fees, and 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,360 you don't have to feel as guilty about it. 67 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,600 Yes, yeah. And then I think another thing 68 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,600 to do is just time spent with the people you enjoy that it 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,040 could be friend or significant other or whoever. 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,560 We're all pretty busy nowadays with like, you know, most people 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,600 having jobs or working and having other things in their 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,760 life. And so if there's one more thing 73 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,920 you can spend time with your favorite people with, that's a 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,880 that's a good thing. Yeah, absolutely. 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,200 Another thing that you can do is you can kind of elevate and 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,959 deepen your relationship. Because if you think about it, 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,120 you're both striving to run a marathon and you see another 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,040 side of your spouse. Maybe you've never seen that 79 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,520 person competitive with themselves or even with you and 80 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,920 go to certain length that normally they wouldn't normally. 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,320 They're at home, they're playing with the kids, everything's nice 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,840 and mellow, and now you're kind of deepening it because you go 83 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:41,200 to those pain caves, kind of like we did in Sweden, right 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,160 when you're running the marathon. 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,760 I was talking to you about your pain, caves and all that stuff. 86 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:45,920 I feel like it kind of makes you games. 87 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,560 I don't remember paying caves ever. 88 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,680 It makes you bond more. Yeah, or even a better 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,040 understanding. Or of people you know that 90 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,720 you're spending time with. If you can see them in 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,360 challenging situations or different situations, you can 92 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,960 understand them more or just get a better understanding of who 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,880 they are. Yeah, and maybe you see stuff 94 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,680 that you like and some stuff you don't like. 95 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,720 That's true. And last but not least, what I 96 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,720 think is you can plan vacations around the marathon, which I 97 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,360 personally absolutely love. And you've come to love that 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,160 too. You are going to run your second 99 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,840 marathon ever in the city of Rome again, another untrained 100 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:25,200 marathon. But you have yourself said that 101 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,080 there's really nothing better than seeing a city on foot, on 102 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,640 closed roads and experiencing that. 103 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,720 And so you know, running makes for great getaways as as well. 104 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,160 Yeah, I think that's a perk for sure. 105 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,720 For the marathon running or already running, I think 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,560 traveling. But even just getting outside 107 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,280 and seeing new places in your own city or neighborhood, it's 108 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:48,280 also fun. So we've come up with a lot of 109 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:53,680 compelling reasons as to why to spend or to include your 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,040 significant other friends in running. 111 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:58,320 Now. How do we do that? 112 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,360 Yeah. So we've come up with a 113 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:05,080 compelling guide for you that you can try out on those people 114 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,120 that you love and let us know how it works or if it works, of 115 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:08,680 course. Right. 116 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,080 So step number one is spark their interest and how do you 117 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,280 spark someone's interest? I feel like you can inspire 118 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:20,160 someone by telling them stories. Tell them some inspiring stories 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,480 about somebody's running journey. 120 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,520 For example, if I'm trying to lose my pregnancy weight and 121 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,600 Ryan is talking to me about some inspiring stories on how people 122 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,400 you know just by picking up a few miles here and there. 123 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,280 I would not touch that with a 10 foot pole because you'd be like 124 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,400 do you think I'm fat? Why do you want me to run? 125 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Do you think I'm fat? So there is no way that I would 126 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,440 ever be telling you inspirational stories about how 127 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,440 other people lost their pregnancy weight while you just 128 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,000 gave birth. There is no way that that is 129 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,800 good advice in any facet of this. 130 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,400 Like, do not do that with your significant other as a guy, I'll 131 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,240 tell you, it's not going to turn out well. 132 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Well, I didn't mean it that way. I kind of meant, you know, you 133 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,120 are in an intimate relationship with someone and they know that 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,920 you're struggling and they know that, hey, I'm not really happy 135 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,160 with where I'm at right now. And so then I would definitely 136 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,440 welcome some tips on, Hey, look, I've I've read something online 137 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,120 that, look, this is a good way of increasing your metabolism 138 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,920 and it has these perks. Why don't we both give it a try 139 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,880 But? I think taking a more supportive 140 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,960 role in that situation is better than taking the role of saying 141 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,040 look at this person who lost 20 lbs or 30 lbs right after their 142 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,240 pregnancy by running a lot. Come on, go run with me. 143 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,680 OK. Well, I I mean, I guess I didn't 144 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,400 mean it that way. Maybe I'm just more, maybe I'm 145 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,480 just more blunt in in that sense and. 146 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,120 It's okay if you have that type of relationship that you can be 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,840 blunt. I think it's not a problem, but 148 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,920 I feel like for a lot of people you you want to tread lightly. 149 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Yeah, no, I can see that. All right. 150 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,440 Maybe Ryan you can come up with another example on how to spark 151 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,960 someones interest. I think so. 152 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Everyone's going to be different, you know, and if you 153 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,200 you know, if you know who you're dealing with and what they kind 154 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,520 of like, you can kind of maybe cater it towards that. 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,440 I I really thought it was fun when we started running in 156 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,040 California because it was a nice group and people would chat and 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,480 talk on the way and we went to interesting places when we ran 158 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,080 that were scenic. And then afterwards we got a 159 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,240 nice breakfast and the whole experience was like, it's just a 160 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,120 fun outing essence and the whole thing was fun and it made it 161 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:40,120 very, very much more interesting than just running by yourself or 162 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,400 doing something simple. So if the person that you're 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,200 trying to convince as a social person and likes to do those 164 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,800 activities, you can show them the social side of things. 165 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,640 Likewise, if someone is in the nature, you can take them on. 166 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,240 You know, some nature runs or things like that that might get 167 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,320 them interested and they can kind of incorporate the things 168 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,600 that they like into the thing you like, which is the running. 169 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,240 What about a person that has never run before and hated 170 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,440 running in high school? I know that in America they do 171 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,080 the mile in high school and most people that end up being runners 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,880 never like that. How do you inspire a person that 173 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,600 has never had a love for running to do that? 174 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,800 I think it's really difficult to start something new. 175 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,960 I mean, just look at me, you trying to talk me into sailing 176 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,800 and all that stuff. I've never done that in my life. 177 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,520 And you know, you have some hesitations. 178 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,960 Yeah, I mean so we're still on the spark the interest thing I 179 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,120 think so fortunately with running it seems to be a good 180 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,480 habit in general. And if you look at a lot of the 181 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,560 things that come out, it seems that to be healthy for you for 182 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,360 the most part. Obviously you can take it to an 183 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,040 extreme, but so things that can spark their interest is you know 184 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,280 doing it for their health. I think as people get older they 185 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,480 become more conscious in their health and and how they're take, 186 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,360 you know, whether or not they're going to take care of 187 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,480 themselves. So that that could be a a way of 188 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,640 sparking their interest. I I can see that. 189 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,600 So maybe so maybe the runner in the relationship can watch some 190 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:12,080 inspirational documentaries or movies about running, or have 191 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,920 the loved one accompany them to running events. 192 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Because I can see how being a spectator, you know, I just was 193 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,000 a spectator last weekend, how inspiring that is to just being 194 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,760 in that community and cheering someone on and everybody has a 195 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,120 different goal. So I can see how inspirational 196 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,920 movies or going to an event where you actually are live and 197 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,120 you hear people cheering and you see all the emotions, I think 198 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,200 that helps. You can maybe even encourage 199 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,240 them to do a race with you or something. 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,400 But the small one to start, Yeah, yeah, that way they can go 201 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,720 through those emotions themselves and hopefully get 202 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,720 hooked on it. Yes. 203 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,320 So the seed has been planted and obviously yes, there's a huge 204 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,360 intimidation factor. As much as it is fun to cheer on 205 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,960 a race, of course it's intimidating to be the person 206 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,800 running. But I guess that takes us to 207 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,680 step number two. Once the person has agreed to 208 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:12,800 maybe give running a try, and I don't feel like it needs to be 209 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,280 including a big race, I think you can set attainable goals. 210 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,040 That should be step #2 and the goals could be something that's 211 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,360 important and realistic and also specific. 212 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,560 For example fitness based goals. Not necessarily goals that are 213 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:30,960 vague, like I want to get in shape. 214 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,560 So your goal could be I want to run a 5K without stopping rather 215 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:37,880 than to get in shape. Yeah. 216 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,560 I mean I think that's something that hopefully can be worked out 217 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:45,520 together. You know kind of figure out what 218 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:47,760 what both parties want out of it. 219 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,680 I think if you've encouraged them to try then you kind of can 220 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:55,320 go after like what do you want from from this or what can you 221 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,360 what can what can we get both gain from this and that way you 222 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,560 can set goals based on that maybe. 223 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Yeah, and I think it's also not wrong to say, hey, I just want 224 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,080 to finish this race right, like a 5K with the goal of finishing 225 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,880 it. I think that's very low pressure 226 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,280 and you are more likely to not be nervous about it. 227 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,120 Even if you want to stop, even if you want to walk a little 228 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,480 bit, just go do it. Because I think once you do one 229 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,080 of them, I think that kind of helps the hook. 230 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,040 Yeah, and I think it can be assumed without saying, but 231 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,400 patience will be very important in the whole process. 232 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,480 And I think if you're the one trying to encourage somebody 233 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,600 else to join your activity, being very patient is good and 234 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:45,080 and hopefully over time will pay off by both of you guys enjoying 235 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,000 the same guys, girls enjoying the same activities. 236 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,680 Yeah, I know, exactly. So I mean, I guess with that, 237 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,920 yes, it is also important to set short term and long term goals. 238 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,880 But I think at the time of you just trying it, I feel like it's 239 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,920 not that important to talk about it being this thing of like, OK, 240 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,040 within a year you're going to run a marathon. 241 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,480 I think setting those big goals can be a little bit overwhelming 242 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,080 rather than just living in the moment a bit more. 243 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,440 Yeah, but it does make sense to maybe make some small goals. 244 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,960 So that way you have something to do, aspire to or look forward 245 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,840 to. Yeah, so then step #3 is 246 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,760 planning some fun activities. So Ryan, the easiest way of 247 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,000 getting your children to run I read somewhere, is just having 248 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,840 it be something that is fun and not even necessarily running 249 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,440 right with kids. They suggest aerobic stuff like 250 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,360 soccer or even gymnastics where kids play and run around and 251 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,640 they don't even realize that they are running a certain 252 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,400 distance. And I think for adults, 253 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:48,760 obviously you're not going to take your friend, partner, 254 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,840 whatever to go play soccer. But I think you can go running 255 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,280 in places that are super fun. You can run through cities, you 256 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,680 can get, you can go to trails, you can go to parks, beach track 257 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:02,320 around the neighborhood. And you know it doesn't have to 258 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,080 be all running. You could do a run hike or 259 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,840 biking or just something that makes them be active, because I 260 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,920 think in the long run that'll all kind of funnel into the 261 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,400 running anyway. Where it'll at least make their 262 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,640 aerobic fitness better and then make running more fun, probably 263 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,480 for him. Yeah, absolutely. 264 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,840 So what's next? So next would be step #4 and I 265 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,960 think you have mentioned this in the previous podcast before. 266 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,400 How to make something more fun? If you've lost your love for 267 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,360 running, how can you re sparkle that again? 268 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,680 And I guess the same thing goes for a new runner investing in 269 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,920 proper running gear. Because finding that gear that 270 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,960 makes running more fun. You know, having a sports bra 271 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,560 that really fits. Or if you live in an area where 272 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,320 it's really hot and you're sweating a lot, having proper 273 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,240 gear can make a lot a huge difference. 274 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Yeah, I agree. And not even just the proper 275 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,320 gear, but sometimes just buying new things or even researching 276 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,360 before you buy instead of just whimsically buying it kind of 277 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,840 makes you more excited to try it out and see how it works or if 278 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,800 it's fun, if it lives up to its research or its hype. 279 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,760 So you as a runner could help that new person familiarize 280 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:19,280 themselves with something. I think as a runner, as a person 281 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,720 that has been a runner for a while. 282 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,400 The benefit of a new runner having you is that you've 283 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,840 already kind of been through it and you can give a lot of tips 284 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,600 and that was going to be super helpful. 285 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,400 Yeah, definitely. Or get them in the right 286 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,200 direction and help them through the process of finding the 287 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,840 things they need. And also sign them up for 288 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Strava, because we all know that if it's not on Strava, it 289 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,040 doesn't count. And you know, I feel like Strava 290 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,200 has become. You should have like Strava as a 291 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,440 sponsor if you're going to notify them at every single 292 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,440 thing. But do I? 293 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,320 I don't know. You said it several. 294 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,480 I just said it before, but any any it does, it does make it 295 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,840 more fun having these apps now, these social platforms basically 296 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,280 that that allow you to compare or encourage others and talk 297 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,040 about your activities. I think that definitely helps. 298 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,800 It kind of makes it more fun, whether it be Strava or anyone 299 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,200 else, unless Strava wants to pay us and we can say Strava every 300 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,200 time. Yeah, but I don't really know if 301 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,520 there's anything else but Strava. 302 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,360 So Strava is kind of like the Facebook of running or I guess 303 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,680 the Instagram. And I know people that have 304 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,160 stayed away from social media, but they aren't Strava. 305 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,760 And so now that Strava enabled messaging, it's kind of like 306 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,040 social media, but. So along with patients which 307 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,200 cannot emphasize the importance of enough, Step 5 is also to 308 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,640 start slow and gradual. I think most of the time, 309 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:44,320 whenever you try to teach or instruct a close friend or close 310 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,880 person or significant other, whoever it might be, to 311 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,240 yourself, it can be difficult because a lot of times you 312 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,040 probably have less patience with that person than you might have 313 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,680 with a stranger, given that you're around them all the time. 314 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,840 And some of the characteristics of our personalities tend to 315 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,240 wear on each other the longer you are together. 316 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:11,880 But if you're willing to see the big picture and be very patient 317 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,079 and take things slow and gradual, I think that the 318 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,480 outcome or the payoff is worth it. 319 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,440 But I would definitely think that going into it with that 320 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,599 mindset will help a lot. OK. 321 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:30,600 So to that starting slow and gradual, it is important if if 322 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,520 you're new to running to start slow, you guys know that you 323 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,640 know they have some rules of thumbs to not increase your 324 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,600 mileage by more than a certain percentage. 325 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,760 Well, as a runner that's maybe more experienced, they should 326 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,160 know that there's so many disadvantages to going too fast, 327 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,760 injuries, you know, motivation. And that's a lot of the things 328 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,400 we've talked about in our other podcasts. 329 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,360 But a new runner, you know, might not know that. 330 00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:01,600 So it's good to to get them, you know, to start slow and gradual 331 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,640 and therefore not discourage them before they get to the 332 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,880 point where they might enjoy it. Exactly. 333 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,320 And to your patience, I want to add that it's also nice. 334 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,640 You know, we've learned so much about easy running being so 335 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,080 important. Run slow with your person 336 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,760 because I think there's not many things that are worse than 337 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,840 getting completely discouraged at the outset of your run. 338 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,200 I think now that I've been running for a really long time, 339 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,320 you know, I go out with people that are much faster than me 340 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,720 anyway and I get left behind and it doesn't matter to me. 341 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,640 I'm just motivated to keep going. 342 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,920 But when I was new to running, if I would have ran with a group 343 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,520 that would completely leave them behind in the dust. 344 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,160 I don't know if I would have returned. 345 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,240 So keep that in mind. So when you go running with your 346 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,480 person, go their pace and make it something fun for them. 347 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Maybe have a great conversation and make them not feel that 348 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,560 pressure. So much of having to keep a 349 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,840 certain pace go with their pace. Yeah, to that point too. 350 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:05,200 In my experience, you know, if I'm ever significantly, say, 351 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,640 faster than somebody else, it really is not that big of a deal 352 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,360 for me to go fast and then wait a little bit, you know, after a 353 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:17,120 set period of time, wait, let the person catch up and then 354 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,880 continue on. It really doesn't. 355 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,560 It really is, in most cases it's not that bad at all. 356 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,920 Whereas the perception of the person behind might be that, oh, 357 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,000 I'm holding this person up, you know, all I'm doing is ruining 358 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,480 their run and things like that. So communication I think is, is 359 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,520 key in that point. So I mean you can definitely, I 360 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,080 think start off running at their pace or running slow in order to 361 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,920 make sure that they don't get discouraged right away. 362 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,800 But then have the discussion and and like and tell them like look 363 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,080 it really if I go ahead in a little bit and I wait, it's 364 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,800 really not that big of a deal to me. 365 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,240 I don't care at all. I kind of enjoy the break, if 366 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,280 that's you. But if you tell them that ahead 367 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,160 of time and make sure that you communicate it well so they 368 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,120 don't feel. Left out or discouraged or 369 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:08,800 anything else by being like a weight on your training or 370 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,640 holding you back, then I think that will help prevent 371 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,440 roadblocks to getting them to your running pleasure or 372 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,320 whatever enjoyment. Yeah, I agree with that. 373 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,640 And I think I agree with that so much because when you and I were 374 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,840 first together, I introduced you to this running group that met 375 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,280 every Sunday in Los Angeles running up the Rustic Canyon. 376 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 And it's an area that had a very high climb. 377 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,920 And this particular running group had three different stops 378 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,800 on that four mile trail and then go downhill back afterwards. 379 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,560 And it was very nice to have these stops because you would 380 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,840 have runners of all ability and it felt so inclusive to be 381 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,520 running with the fast people and slower people, and everybody 382 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,520 would reach the points, wait for each other. 383 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,200 It felt much better than, you know, joining a running group 384 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,080 where everybody starts together and people finish and then you 385 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,920 know, that's it. Yeah, I completely agree with 386 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,480 you on that. I think in that case it was kind 387 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,640 of almost forced because it was a steeper uphill. 388 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,240 So you just naturally would stop and take a breath. 389 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,280 But think of that in your even if it's not in that situation, 390 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,080 you're just doing a normal run. Like say you would do a normal 391 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,640 five mile run and you would do it all continuous, but the 392 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,400 person you're running with maybe a much slower pace. 393 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,560 I think it's it's so much more enjoyable to me, to everyone 394 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,640 involved really is if you pick like you know say two stops 395 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280 along the way at least or something where you just stop 396 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,400 and wait for the person and you don't just immediately take off 397 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,280 when the other person gets there, but you chat, you know 398 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,720 you can both catch your breath a little bit and then you continue 399 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,200 on. And just having that like 400 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,200 interaction if you're going to be apart by running is makes it 401 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,360 much more fun. Yes, absolutely. 402 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:54,840 And that's again for the naysayers for stopping on runs. 403 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,040 The whole reason for this podcast is how to get a person 404 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,800 that you love or like to become a runner. 405 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,800 So you know obviously this will change with the whole stopping 406 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,200 versus non stopping as they progress in their own running. 407 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,360 With that, the next step, step number six that we have written 408 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:13,680 down here is to track the progress because tracking the 409 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,400 progress can be a great way of staying motivated and see how 410 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,920 far you've come. I'm not talking about before or 411 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,040 after picture. I guess I could be talking about 412 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,040 that because your body will change sometimes, but also your 413 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,200 paces will inevitably change. So I'm going to mention Strava 414 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,200 again, that's a great with, you know, tracking stuff, but maybe 415 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,040 even have them, you know, start a little journal of how much 416 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,680 they ran. After I had my second child and 417 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,440 I wanted to qualify for Boston, I hung a calendar on the wall 418 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,160 and I would put down every day that I would run, I would put 419 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,720 the mileage. And then in the beginning it 420 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,480 wasn't a lot at all. It was like a mile, every 3rd 421 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,080 day or so. And then when I was training for 422 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,800 a marathon, those miles increased and it was kind of 423 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,640 nice to look at that and see how far had come. 424 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Well, given the more majority of people now have phones or stuff 425 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,720 too, maybe you have an old watch or something you can let them 426 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,200 use, or even use your watch. They can accumulate miles that 427 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,240 way and keep track of it. But if Strava's listening, give 428 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,480 us both Lifetime memberships and we'll promise to mention Strava 429 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,240 at least once every episode. Lifetime memberships only. 430 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,440 All right. Wall calendars are really, I 431 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,240 don't know. I feel like that's like 432 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,880 something people did in the past. 433 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,440 I I don't. I don't really write things on 434 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,840 hand, calendars on the wall anymore. 435 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,680 But I mean, yeah, it could. It could work. 436 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Look what's right next to you. We have a wall calendar with our 437 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,720 vacation on it. I know, and it's kind of nice to 438 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,280 have that visualization. Yeah, I I I understand what 439 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,240 you're where you're coming from. I mean it is, it is neater to 440 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,000 look at you know whole year and at the moment most of our 441 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,840 smartphones screens are too small to like really see a whole 442 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,720 year's worth of stuff easily. So I can understand why you like 443 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,000 it a bit. However you do it, it's kind of 444 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,320 nice to track some progress and see improvement or so. 445 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,960 Fun thing about running too is that naturally almost everyone, 446 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,720 if they just put the time in, will will get better, so you 447 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,680 will likely see progress. Yes. 448 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,160 And that brings us to step number 7. 449 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,640 And we've kind of all throughout talked about it, but we just 450 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,920 want to mention that providing encouragement and support is so, 451 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,440 so, so important is one of the best things you can do to 452 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,120 provide them with feedback, let them know that you're proud of 453 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:36,800 them and that you're there for them every step of the way. 454 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,680 I know that everybody has different love languages. 455 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,040 I I know I've talked to you, Ryan, about that a lot. 456 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:46,200 So know your person and know what they want. 457 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,880 If if they're, you know receptive to gifts or 458 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,080 knickknacks, then do that for them. 459 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,800 If, if you know they like words of encouragement, and give them 460 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,920 that. I think running is a neat sport 461 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,720 in general because typically the goal is not to win. 462 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,920 I mean, there are obviously some people that are winning 463 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,200 marathons that are winning races, but typically the focus 464 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,960 is more on completion rather than actual winning. 465 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,240 And it's also mostly competing with yourself more so than maybe 466 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,760 some other sports. So I think that's kind of neat 467 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:26,040 and and probably overall gives a better camaraderie in the sport. 468 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,320 Like you're not really fighting against anyone in particular, 469 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,080 you're kind of just racing yourself. 470 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,160 So encouragement and support is inherent in running itself and a 471 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,480 lot of these events and so it really caters towards that. 472 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,320 Yeah, exactly. And with that, you could also 473 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,280 celebrate milestones that you read. 474 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Kind of make them a big deal, right? 475 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,080 It's kind of like what we do with kids when they potty train, 476 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,520 like clap When they do something, you know, remind 477 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,600 them, hey, you're on this running program and you have 478 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,400 been running 2 miles without stopping. 479 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,680 As silly as it sounds to seasoned runners, I feel like 480 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,240 that's a big deal. I remember exactly when I ran 2 481 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,360 miles when I was 22 for the first time, and it was very 482 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:20,160 strenuous and very, very hard. And so I think for running, 483 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,720 celebrate every single milestone all the way because it's such a 484 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,000 huge and beneficial thing that you're doing for your body, for 485 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,040 yourself, for your mind later on. 486 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,720 So I think that encouragement and celebration is a must. 487 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,480 Yeah, I think you don't have to be somebody that's an extrovert 488 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,440 that wants to just jump up and down and scream and yell or 489 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,760 anything else. Even something as simple as like 490 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,080 a fist bump. You know, like that is much more 491 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,680 extrovert, not much more introvert. 492 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,760 So like even something simple like just a little fist bump or 493 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,600 something, given that both people are maybe sweaty after a 494 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,240 long run or something like that, is is kind of, it's kind of fun 495 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,520 and it's nice. It kind of makes you feel 496 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,840 included in an encouragement. It helps with the encouragement. 497 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,560 I mean I want fireworks but I get a fist bump now. 498 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:12,640 You guys know how my life goes. At this time we want to thank 499 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,200 our sponsor. 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Make it easy for them. 529 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,840 I've used this analogy over and over. 530 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,200 You know, running is kind of like church. 531 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,280 And I don't mean to offend anyone, but we've recently had a 532 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,560 friend move to a different city and all he had to do is look up 533 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,840 running clubs and he felt at home within two months. 534 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,880 Obviously you got to move to a city that has great running 535 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,120 clubs, but the running community is so amazing. 536 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,320 It's so open to newcomers because you all come from 537 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,280 different backgrounds, but you have one thing in common, which 538 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,520 is the love for running. You're running while you have 539 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600 endorphins. You have deeper conversations 540 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,160 because, you know, it's 5:00 in the morning, You're out there 541 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480 with no makeup, you don't have to make eye contact, and you 542 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,480 talk about your bowel movements, which you know, you, oh, the 543 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,680 listeners know what I'm talking about. 544 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,200 Ryan. You just don't run enough at 545 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,960 5:00 in the morning without makeup on. 546 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Yeah, I think with anything you got to cater towards the person, 547 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,240 right? I mean, some people are going to 548 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,640 be much more social and they'll want that aspect of aspect in 549 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800 their life. And if if they are social and 550 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,840 then you can show them how social running can be, I think 551 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,000 it's can be really helpful and encouraging them to participate. 552 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,640 I like having a small group. It's like I don't really care 553 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,440 about the big groups as much and and but that's what I'm saying 554 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,960 is you got to, you got to cater towards the person a little bit. 555 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,400 Most people would like some social aspect to it but don't 556 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,480 also push somebody into something that's you know super 557 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,120 social that they may be an introvert because they won't 558 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,120 like that and that won't be pleasant for them. 559 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,360 But he's just having a hard time because he's so social. 560 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,680 She can't understand how anyone else would not want to be in a 561 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,320 huge group of people surrounded by more people on top of people. 562 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920 It is difficult for me to understand, especially, you 563 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,840 know, 'cause the running community is so great. 564 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,320 But I do have a lot of introverted friends, believe it 565 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,640 or not, through Instagram. And they still have their, you 566 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,840 know, Instagram running accounts. 567 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,280 And you have yet to meet them 'cause they're introverts. 568 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,560 That's very true. I've never met that. 569 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,800 I'm a person. No, I did. 570 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,800 I did mean a few at races. But I mean, I I see what you're 571 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,720 saying and I do understand. It sounds very scripted. 572 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,080 I think that's the last tip that we had. 573 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Hopefully between the rambling there was some good information 574 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,240 there. Yes, we'll try to transcribe 575 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,200 this and make it into some good show notes. 576 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:25,480 OK, before we leave, letty if you could picture your ideal say 577 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,160 running day like day of the week experience everything. 578 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280 What's your What's your picture? Perfect. 579 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,800 Best you know say running experience. 580 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,120 OK, so my perfect day would be waking up in Los Angeles and 581 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,080 going to our running group on a Saturday, which usually is at 582 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,440 7:00 AM and it's a large group with different paces, very 583 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,560 social, and then afterwards having coffee with with your 584 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,400 running friends. So early morning, large group, 585 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360 very social food after basically. 586 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,720 And so mine's a little different. 587 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,160 Like I like smaller group. I do like getting up in the 588 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,920 morning. Maybe not super early, but I 589 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,000 like getting up in the morning so that you have your whole day 590 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,880 ahead of you. I love getting back and feeling 591 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,520 like you still have a whole day left. 592 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,640 And I also, I really liked the snack or eating portion of it. 593 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,720 I think to me, meals in general are just like so much more 594 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,760 enjoyable after you've done some good exercise. 595 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,440 And so that would be my scenario. 596 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,200 Smaller group doesn't have to be a social just like good friends, 597 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,760 close closer friends. And Lady's been trying to move 598 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,480 back to Los Angeles ever since we left Los Angeles and. 599 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,200 And eventually I'll get my way. Or divorce one of the two. 600 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,360 And with that, stay tuned for next week's podcast. 601 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,480 We don't have the topic yet. We're very sorry, but we've been 602 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,680 receiving a lot of notes and inspirations, especially from 603 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,520 shout out to Sarah. Thank you so much for your topic 604 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,400 suggestions. Very helpful, very insightful 605 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,360 and we'll go over the list. There's been some really good 606 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,400 ones there. Thank you so much for tuning in 607 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,920 and. With that. 608 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,040 Have a great week of running with your loved ones? 609 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,080 Maybe? Thanks for tuning in. 610 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,200 For more information Ant Marathon running news, please 611 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,080 head to www.marathonrunningpodcast.com 612 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,880 and we'll be back next week.