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You're listening to episode 235 
of the Marathon Running Podcast.

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In this episode, we're going to 
talk about the Athens Marathon 

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in Greece. 
This is the Marathon Running 

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podcast by Letty and Ryan from 
We Got the Runs. 

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the finish line and beyond. 
Hey runners, and welcome to 

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episode 235. 
My name is Letty. 

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My name is Ryan. 
And we are back with one of my 

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favorite episodes today. 
We are going to do a race recap 

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today. 
Do you love those race recaps? 

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I sure do, Ryan. 
And before we get started, I 

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just want to let all the 
listeners know that this episode

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is going to be available on 
YouTube. 

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And the reason we do that is 
because we wanted to show you 

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guys literally physically, 
whatever with your eyes, how 

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beautiful this race was and all 
that it entailed. 

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And although I think that we do 
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everything and what happened, 
this is a little bit different. 

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It's always a little bit 
different to see it. 

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So there's that. 
You can go to the show notes and

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check out our YouTube video for 
this episode. 

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The Athens Marathon just 
happened a few days ago, not 

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even a full week. 
It was on November 11th, 2024, 

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obviously in Athens, but 
specifically from the city of 

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Python to Athens, and I got to 
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So what made you go there to 
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Well, I was attending the 
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Conference which takes place 
biannually, and this year they 

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had picked Athens for it. 
They usually pick a place that 

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has a marathon on the weekend of
the conference, so the attendees

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get to not only go to the 
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in the city that hosts a 
marathon, also run it if they 

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want to. 
And I think approximately 25% of

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the people that signed up for 
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actually ran the marathon. 
Yeah, that's kind of 

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interesting. 
I mean, I guess a lot of people 

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that are maybe in the industry 
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but 25% of them do apparently. 
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lot of attendees and reasons for
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weren't runners, they're 
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you know, health problems that 
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A lot of people run when they're
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older they don't run anymore. 
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everything and you know, the 
marathon is not everyone's 

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thing. 
There was also the option to run

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a 10K and that had a very high 
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even if you're not a habitual 
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that you can still master 
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And that's the point, right? 
Inclusivity in the running 

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world. 
That's what we learned during 

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this conference. 
But that's a whole other 

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episode, so let's hop into this 
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So there is some significance to
the Athens Marathon. 

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Do you want to give us a little 
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Sure, absolutely. 
So the Athens Marathon is also 

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often called the authentic 
marathon because of its history.

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So ancient legend says that in 
490 BC, during the Battle of 

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Marathon, when a Greek soldier 
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battlefield at Marathons to 
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approximately 42 kilometers or 
26 miles to deliver the news of 

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Greece's victory over Persia. 
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after announcing we have won, he
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exhaustion. 
So this inspired other people to

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want to go running it. 
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Which is ironic, right? 
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But marathoners are notoriously 
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But in reality, this inspired 
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distance of the marathon 
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marathon was in 1896. 
Or so the legend has it. 

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Exactly. 
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course that they use nowadays, 
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was established in 1972 and ever
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that course. 
So essentially, it's the oldest 

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marathon. 
It really is, yes. 

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So you wanna go through the your
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your journey. 
Yes, that sounds good. 

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So I actually left Florida on 
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in Athens because it takes a 
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There was time to check in and 
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conference. 
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trip wasn't focused on the 
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there for the conference and for
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it needed to be, which was a fun
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So you'll skip over the 
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Did you have anything else? 
Did you have an Expo? 

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Yes, there was an Expo and you 
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is very similar to the one that 
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Well, to me, I think the Rome 
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do with the buildings and just 
the city that there weren't 

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large conference halls in order 
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for people to do. 
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even build those types of 
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maybe the Colosseum or something
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So they had to kind of conform 
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were in that seemed. 
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And it was the case in this one 
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It was at the, I think it was 
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It was a very large building, 
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one large room. 
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and there was an upstairs and a 
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walk in on a red carpet, which 
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made it feel very special. 
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into the Expo building and then 
you kind of wind around the 

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bottom around the arena to go 
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Once you go pick up your bib, 
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through the maze of vendors, 
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And like in Rome, this time 
there was a lot more running 

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related vendors. 
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they even had dog food there, 
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But this Expo was kind of cool 
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brands that we in America don't 
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You know, there were the usuals,
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were a lot of brands and I can't
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But like I said, if you watch 
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to be able to see them and you 
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And before you know it, you're 
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You're not out the other door, 
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upstairs. 
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your race shirt, which is 
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And again, there's more vendors.
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different marathons that we have
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obviously take place in Europe. 
A lot of the writing was stuff 

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that we didn't recognize because
while I probably can wiggle my 

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way and understand a lot of 
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the Greek letters, I was 
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Were there any other marathons 
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There was a lot of them and I 
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Google Translate downloaded to 
my phone to take a picture of 

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it. 
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just, you know, you're in a 
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continent, and there's so much 
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majors that everyone seems to be
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myself. 
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beautiful places on Earth, and 
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marathon there, right? 
Destination marathons, huh? 

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I think that's kind of the way 

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to go with taking trips and then
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experience. 
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attractiveness for that to me to
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marathon in a different country.
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You're kind of obligated to go 
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know, because once you've signed
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everything, and then then you 
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enjoy the environment or 
location afterwards a bit. 

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Yes, absolutely. 
I think we kind of did that when

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we ran Stockholm and Rome, your 
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So there's only, you know, more 
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Yeah, I guess that's true. 
The marathons that have done 

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involvement like somewhere else.
Exactly. 

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So after your Expo, anything 
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No, because again, I wasn't 
really focused on having a good 

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time as in timing. 
I was just focused on having a 

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good time. 
Get it like enjoying the 

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marathon. 
So I didn't really pay attention

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to the intake of different food.
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race, I drink a lot more water 
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know, something that's easily 
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carb loading and filling up 
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But during this, I was just 
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I was eating the food that they 
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delicious, but it was finger 
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And then in the evening, I guess
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was still out and about because 
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conference. 
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my feet the whole day. 
And I think they had burgers and

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then they also had bruschetta. 
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was definitely not setting me up
for the marathon. 

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I also didn't go to a grocery 
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Again, we were busy. 
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went as expected with that, with
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very hard. 
Went as expected, meeting the 

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time. 
Yes, yes, just going for that 

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good time. 
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day then? 
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So on race day, most of the 
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staying at the Grand Hyatt 
Athens, and we literally were 

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told we get to take the VIP bus.
And you know, I like VIP 

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treatment. 
And it says VIP you're sold. 

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Yes, even if it doesn't provide 
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But this one did. 
So Bus picked us up, all of the 

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runners. 
Since I was super jet lagged, I 

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slept the entire way to 
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I woke up twice and took a 
little video that obviously 

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you're going to see when you're 
watching this to go there. 

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But I didn't pay attention of 
the elevation and any of that 

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stuff because in reality, it 
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I was going to run the Ancient 
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Yeah, and you fall asleep in 
every car ride that I drive in, 

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so I wouldn't not be surprised 
at all if you slept the. 

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Whole way. 
I did sleep the whole way and it

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was epic. 
Then we got there and we were 

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following the girl that was the 
VIP leader and she told us 

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before getting off the bus, make
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find the VIP section. 
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were VIPs essentially. 
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When you signed up for the 
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invited to the conference, you 
were given the option to sign up

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for the 10K or the marathon. 
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You didn't have to. 
Obviously it's not, it's a perk.

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And so that was very, very nice.
We got off the bus. 

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I tried to keep up with the 
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I lost her within the 1st 2 
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She was walking so fast, you 
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And in my head I was like, oh, 
it's not a big deal, I'm just 

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gonna follow people. 
But then suddenly there's just 

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crowds of runners and everyone 
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There was no, you know, flagpole
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So I found one more person from 
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her and then finally found the 
VIP section, which was very nice

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that that happened. 
It was basically a roped off 

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section that had its own porta 
potty and it had a couple of 

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tents that you could seal. 
There was one for men and there 

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was one for women, and basically
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there and warm up. 
Fortunately, the weather was 

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pretty amazing. 
I want to say it was in the 50s 

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or 60s in the morning, so you 
didn't really need any throwaway

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clothes or anything of that 
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And you didn't really need to 
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But we kind of did anyway, just 
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other with other attendees. 
And yeah, that was a really cool

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experience. 
It's funny for a runner, you're 

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not a very fast Walker. 
I am a very slow Walker, I admit

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that. 
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wanted to go faster, I'll just 
run. 

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Well, he almost got lost going 
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I know, but I didn't. 
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our bags. 
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put a jacket in there and a 
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loses battery very quickly. 
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the VIP section and then got to 
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race as we were corralled into 
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VIP rolls. 
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first? 
Yes, yeah, that's wave one. 

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Yes, it was right behind the 
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Were some of those people fast 
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people, but a lot of people had 
special perks. 

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But that's just from my 
impression. 

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slower. 
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of took off with it. 
It didn't feel super fast, so we

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weren't with the elite athletes.
We were behind them still. 

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Yeah, so you find some running 
buddies. 

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I did. 
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Ashworth who are the two ladies 
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attended because they have a 
business. 

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Their business is to make race 
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they are actually in charge of 
all the Boston medals. 

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I think she also said Miami and 
some other ones. 

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They were super nice. 
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and their plan also was to run 
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cruise along and have a good 
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from Berlin Marathon. 
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let's stick together and just 
have a great time. 

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And that great time started at 
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We were dancing along and, you 
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So that was really, really cool.
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slow runners. 
Yes, absolutely, but not that 

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slow. 
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average females I want to say, 
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females? 
Average time is 4:30. 

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We still finished in around 4 
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So, you know, even having a good
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time, we were able to do really 
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circumstances. 
So, lady, can you give us an 

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overview of the course? 
Sure, absolutely. 

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So this chorus is a difficult 
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The 1st 200 meters are downhill 
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downhill until you reach 
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Then it kind of seems to flatten
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And then there is the uphill, 
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of rolling hill feelings, but 
it's so it's not steep, but it's

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definitely noticeable. 
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you basically keep climbing and 
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climbing until you reach 
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So as you guys know, 42 
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you know, almost 3/4 of the race
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difficult. 
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Stadium. 
So that's kind of just in a 

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nutshell. 
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stations, etcetera? 
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giving out water but also giving
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something drink. 
I cannot remember it for the 

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life of me, but it was 
absolutely delicious. 

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There was some food on the 
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There were some gels called 
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and they also had pretzels, 
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lot more that I missed. 
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they gave out like a drink was 
called sweat or something? 

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Pakari sweat. 
That was in Japan. 

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It's like, I don't know if that 
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you're eating, but. 
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because you're kind of thinking,
OK, I'm drinking someone's sweat

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and it's kind of like an off 
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Plus it's like a salty eater, 
so. 

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It's actually really good 
though. 

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I'm sure. 
But I don't know. 

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I don't know what the marketing 
was behind that. 

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All right. 
Well, anyway, I just made me 

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think of it. 
And so before you go into more 

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detail or any other notable 
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So what I noticed right away 
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that it reminded me a lot of how
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Boston has this whole you're 
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different city and then you're 
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cities to get to the finish 
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So you're not really running in 
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You're basically running from 
outside of Boston into Boston 

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here in the kind of same manner 
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Marathon and you're hitting 
eight different cities until you

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get to, you know, DUD amazing 
finish at the Olympic Stadium. 

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So it kind of reminded me of 
that. 

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Also like I said, because of the
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profile, even though Athens was 
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was kind of along the same lines
of it. 

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I bet the scenery is really 
nice. 

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It was right. 
It was actually part of it by 

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the water. 
You would have enjoyed that 

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because you could kind of look 
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OK, there's the Greek islands 
behind that and all that stuff 

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until you get tired, right? 
But I guess we'll get to that in

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a second. 
So you want to talk about the 

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beginning of the race? 
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race they played the song Zerba,
which I'm not allowed to play on

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any platforms. 
But it's like dum dum, dum, dum,

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dum, dum dum, you know? 
And we all started dancing. 

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It was absolutely beautiful to 
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guess, a very iconic song down 
there. 

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They played some more music at 
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went out and we were shortly 
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while. 
Any music along the course? 

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Yeah, there was music and 
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and I actually, for the first 
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headphones because, I mean, I 
had headphones on me, but I was 

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talking so much that I ended up 
taking them out. 

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So what about after the start? 
Any memorable experiences? 

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Yeah, I mean, we kind of went 
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because of that little bit of 
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running 25 minute 5 KS, which is
great for a marathon. 

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So we were on track to run a lot
faster. 

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But honestly, I'm only telling 
you this because everyone else 

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that ran the race with me told 
me that I didn't really keep 

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track of time because, again, I 
was just trying to have a good 

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time. 
And yeah, we saw a ton of kids. 

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I took a ton of videos high 
fiving kids and spectators were 

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awesome. 
The streets were aligned 

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depending on if you're going 
through a city. 

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But then you also had a little 
bit of quiet. 

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You also had a lot of people in 
costumes. 

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You had people wearing togas, 
and you had a banana, which that

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was bananas. 
That was kind of cool. 

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How about the middle of the 
race? 

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So during the middle of the 
race, I realized that I, you 

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know, was not trained for a 
marathon and I learned to 

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respect the distance. 
There is not one thing that 

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really went wrong. 
But you know, when you're not 

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training for a marathon, it's 
usually around that 13 miles. 

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And you've noticed that too, 
that the fatigue sets in a 

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little bit more. 
I also realized that normally I 

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eat better before a race. 
This time, like I said, I didn't

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really eat anything appropriate.
I hadn't fueled, I hadn't 

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hydrated myself enough. 
So I was really craving gummy 

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bears and salt like I usually do
in a Coca-Cola, which we never 

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drink any pop at home, any sodas
at home. 

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But I was, you know, having 
certain cravings that told me my

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body needed something else. 
So you were feeling the pain? 

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I wasn't really feeling the 
pain. 

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I was just feeling a little bit 
fatigued, jet lagged and but it 

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wasn't bad at all because, you 
know, I was still able to talk. 

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I was still having really 
coherent conversations. 

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Not usually your brain just kind
of fades after all these smiles.

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I still had all that. 
I just felt like, OK, I really 

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wish I could have a Coca-Cola 
mixed with Gatorade with salt in

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it. 
Coca-Cola and Gatorade, I don't 

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think I've ever tried that. 
But did they have those you saw 

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Coke on? 
Well, I did take a zip of Coke 

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and then washed it down the 
Gatorade. 

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It was, it was amazing. 
I wish they would have had 

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pickle juice. 
You know, it was just, it was my

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own. 
It was my own fault for not 

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doing the right nutrition. 
But it's kind of interesting, 

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right? 
I also had brought my gels. 

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I brought gels with me, but I 
decided not to take them because

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I just didn't feel like taking 
these sweet gels again. 

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I was craving a lot of salt. 
That's not unusual for you. 

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Did you get over it? 
You got a second wind. 

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I mean, I've never lost the 
wind. 

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It was just we didn't run 25 
minute, 5 KS anymore. 

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Our pace kind of slowed down a 
little bit. 

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So you were happy to see the end
of the race coming? 

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I was kind of happy, although I 
would have maybe enjoyed running

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through Athens a little bit 
longer, but I was, I was pretty 

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happy it was ending at the same 
time. 

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It was kind of amazing. 
I got goosebumps when I was 

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thinking I'm running the same 
brute as that legend did when he

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was delivering noose and now I'm
running it wearing super shoes 

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and I'm running it even though 
they didn't take it during an 

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age where we have nutrition and 
everything. 

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And not war. 
Yes, not war exactly and 

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different motivation. 
He didn't do it for sport. 

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So we all talked about that for 
quite a bit. 

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I think just how everything is 
different, like, you know, he 

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was the biggest influencer of 
all of the runners because he 

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started the marathon relief. 
You think about it and he didn't

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even know it. 
And unfortunately, he'll never 

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know. 
Yeah, I wonder how much of that 

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legend is true or what 
compounding factors are there. 

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You know, obviously it makes for
a good story, but a lot of that 

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happened a long time ago and 
details probably a little foggy.

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Exactly. 
But it makes for a good story. 

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Yes, yes, yes, yes. 
And so you finished the race. 

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So yes, that was that was pretty
beautiful. 

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Well, prior to finishing the 
race, we ran through a lot of 

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blow up arches and it was almost
confusing because you're like, 

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OK, is that the end? 
But then you're like, no, I know

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I'm going to end in the stadium.
The stadium is very different 

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than the stadiums that we're 
used to in modern days. 

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It was a stadium where it was 
much more narrow and it seemed 

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like it was only a 200 meter 
Sprint to the finish. 

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So we all did Sprint to the 
finish, which shows you we still

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had some energy left. 
And that was just a very, very 

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amazing experience because 
people, it was jam packed. 

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People were cheering a lot. 
And even though we were 

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sprinting, we didn't miss that. 
I didn't miss to soak that all 

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in, crossing the finish line. 
And then everything just went 

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really fast because as VIP, we 
were sent to the left where we 

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went through a tunnel, and that 
tunnel took us to yet another 

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little house that was our VIP 
section. 

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So we didn't really get to 
finish the loop in the stadium 

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and turn out the other way. 
We were just funneled through 

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that tunnel, which that was kind
of an experience in itself 

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because on the walls of the 
tunnel there were all the 

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Olympic torches mounted. 
And that was really, really 

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cool. 
And then after that, we were 

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given our medals in the VIP 
section along with a bag that 

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had something to drink and a 
banana. 

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And I think something else 
probably that I can't remember 

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right now. 
And from there, since that was 

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on the side of the stadium, you 
could take a couple of steps 

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upstairs and you're literally 
able to overview the entire 

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stadium and see all the runners 
finished. 

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So that was absolutely 
beautiful. 

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So you commented on the Olympic 
torches. 

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Did they have the Olympic rings 
there too? 

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Yes, you could see them in the 
stadium. 

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So that was another thing, you 
know, the original Olympic Games

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and seeing that, that was really
cool. 

453
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So what were the fastest times? 
Yeah, so the winner of this 

454
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marathon actually came at a 218 
for the men and a 240 for the 

455
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women. 
The elite field included many 

456
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Greek runners and also some from
other countries, but it was 

457
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,400
mostly a Greek ran marathon. 
And you know, just think about 

458
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that. 
If that fastest time for men is 

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218 and women is 240, those are 
still elite runners. 

460
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,840
So that only tells you about the
terrain, right? 

461
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Difficulty, yeah. 
Okay, now that you finished the 

462
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:52,840
race, what else did you do? 
Well, I got back into a VIP van.

463
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,880
Of course, that took me back to 
the Grand Hyatt where I enjoyed 

464
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the rest of the afternoon 
enjoying the facility of the 

465
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,440
Grand Hyatt, which included a 
sauna, a steam room, a hot tub, 

466
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,640
a cold blunt, which I didn't 
touch, and a pool. 

467
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,040
And a lot of areas where you 
just lay around and have, you 

468
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,520
know, soothing movie music 
playing, which that was awesome.

469
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,800
You know, that's right up my 
alley. 

470
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,040
So that was very good. 
Yeah, I try to convince you to 

471
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,840
jump in the cold water or to sit
in the cold water, but you won't

472
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even get in a Florida pool after
August. 

473
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,160
And, you know, there's really no
data that shows that this 

474
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actually helps your muscles. 
It shows that you might feel 

475
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better. 
So for me, in my head, it's 

476
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already a placebo effect. 
And I know a lot of you 

477
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,360
listeners love it, and that's 
good for you. 

478
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:44,120
But nobody's convinced me with 
data to take that leap. 

479
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,920
And so I enjoy a hot plunge more
than a cold plunge. 

480
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,880
Yeah, I think, I think it's 
difficult to to prove or even to

481
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,640
quantify some benefits 
potentially for that. 

482
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,560
I know that it's like the the 
concept too is, is a little bit 

483
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,480
interesting because even if your
body skin surface or outside is 

484
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,480
at a very cold temperature, you 
know, your body still keeps your

485
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,560
core temperature pretty similar.
So there's not going to be a 

486
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whole lot of change. 
That doesn't mean that it 

487
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,080
doesn't affect or create some 
benefit for people. 

488
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,920
And if it makes people feel 
good, you know, there's probably

489
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,480
no harm, so why not? 
But. 

490
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,880
Exactly. 
So if you if you guys are cold 

491
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,000
plungers, then don't hate on us 
for for that. 

492
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,720
I actually like it. 
I like jumping. 

493
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,440
We don't, I don't have like ice,
ice bath, but like in the winter

494
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,120
time jumping in the pool, going 
between the pool and the hot 

495
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,280
tub. 
I really like it. 

496
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,800
But we'll have to look into 
doing a podcast about that at 

497
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,520
some point. 
Oh yeah, we totally should, 

498
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,000
right? 
Yeah, that's a good idea. 

499
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,440
So, yeah. 
And then after that, it was 

500
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,520
evening time and we went and had
pizza. 

501
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,000
I ordered a whole pizza to 
myself because I intended to eat

502
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,720
it. 
Of course that didn't happen so 

503
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:54,640
it became breakfast and it was 
packed into my carry on to snuck

504
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,520
on on the way home. 
It's the never ending pizza. 

505
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,040
Yes, absolutely. 
I still had some when I landed 

506
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,800
here, but that was more of an 
accident. 

507
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,360
But yeah, so. 
So that wraps up the Greek 

508
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Marathon. 
So what's your rating of the 

509
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,880
marathon? 
10 out of 10, right? 

510
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,440
I think we should stop doing 
ratings because they're all 

511
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,840
basically the same. 
They are the same all the time. 

512
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,120
That's right. 
But I really, really did like 

513
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:27,880
this marathon for so many 
reasons, mostly people that I 

514
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,480
met with during SAW while 
running it. 

515
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,320
The weather was great too. 
It was warm, maybe on some 

516
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,360
parts, but it wasn't too 
freezing, so it's really nice. 

517
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Mediterranean Climate. 
Yeah, Mediterranean climate, but

518
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,280
it was, you know, fifties, 60s, 
so. 

519
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,200
For the whole day? 
Or is this this start? 

520
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,000
It was for the whole day. 
Pretty much the whole time I was

521
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,400
there was not the hottest, which
was fine. 

522
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,000
No, actually sounds, yeah, 
pretty good when you're moving. 

523
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,920
Yeah, exactly. 
It was very pleasant when you're

524
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,120
moving. 
I was wearing a vest to carry 

525
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,960
all the camera equipment and 
everything else, and that vest, 

526
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,120
because it was not breathable. 
It was neoprene. 

527
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,480
It was starting to get a little 
bit hot on my back, but at the 

528
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,200
same time again running it for a
fun time it didn't really matter

529
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,400
was. 
It a running vest or? 

530
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,360
It was a running vest. 
Yeah, OK. 

531
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,800
But I mean, it's smaller. 
So I really wanted to have one 

532
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,200
of that size. 
I don't know, might have to 

533
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,400
think about that one. 
Any final thoughts? 

534
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,520
Final thoughts If you are 
willing to travel to Europe, I 

535
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,040
think Athens is a marathon you 
should definitely consider. 

536
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,800
The race organizers that we had 
met at the conference were super

537
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,720
nice. 
The setup was beautiful, course 

538
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,080
support was there. 
It was just a really, really 

539
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,640
great experience. 
And if you're into traveling to 

540
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Europe and you want to 
experience Greece, think about 

541
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,880
doing it in November, which is 
when the marathon happens. 

542
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,160
What's a 10 out of 10? 
10 out of 10. 

543
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,040
That's right, Ryan, 10 out of 
10, as always. 

544
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,360
And that wraps up our podcast 
episode on the recap of the 

545
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,120
Greece Marathon. 
Thank you guys for tuning in. 

546
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,240
If you want to see what that 
he's talking about then check 

547
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960
out the YouTube video where you 
can see some pictures and let us

548
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160
know what you think and if you 
like that type of format. 

549
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,240
Absolutely. 
We'll put that in the show 

550
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,080
notes. 
Usually I'm not a big fan of 

551
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,160
recording these podcasts on 
video because it's just too much

552
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,920
work and we won't do that. 
But we probably will start doing

553
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,480
that for the race recaps, just 
because it's nice to have that 

554
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,880
visual. 
And stay tuned for next week. 

555
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,920
We are going to have an exciting
episode, but I think I have a 

556
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360
surprise in mind for everyone. 
So until then. 

557
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:43,520
Have a good weekend running. 
Thanks for tuning in. 

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00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,640
For more information and 
marathon running news, please 

559
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,480
head to 
www.marathonrunningpodcast.com 

560
00:29:50,600 --> 00:30:06,120
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