1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,200 You're listening to episode 216 of the Marathon Running Podcast. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,440 In this episode, you're going to be inspired by a runner who is 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,280 currently fighting breast cancer. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,640 This is the Marathon Running Podcast by Letty and Ryan from 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,360 We Got the Runs. Join us in our running community 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,040 for weekly content that is motivational, educational and 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,040 inspirational and that the Marathon Running Podcast take 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,080 you from the starting line to the finish line and beyond. 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Hey runners, and welcome to episode 216 of the Marathon 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,560 Running Podcast. My name is Letty and I am going 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,680 to be here solo with you tonight. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,480 Normally I have a Co host my husband Ryan but he couldn't 13 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:51,840 make it because in order to make it he would have had to travel 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,680 across the Atlantic Ocean as I am currently in Germany with our 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,440 kids spending the summer here. And Ryan will not be. 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,800 Joining us for another couple. Of weeks so. 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Here we go. I'm going to. 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,560 Record this episode. By myself, but not. 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,600 Really. Because we have an amazing guest 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,680 on today. You're going to hear from my new 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,680 friend Candace Burrow, whose last name I can never pronounce. 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,720 I'm sorry, Candace, but yes, today you'll be inspired by her. 23 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,200 Candace is a runner. Just like you and me. 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Who's been chipping at her? 6 majors, slowly but surely. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Getting them all done. However, after running the Tokyo 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,720 Marathon this year, she was diagnosed with breast cancer. 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,200 Even though she had just had a mammogram, which absolutely 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,600 blows my mind. I know it's out. 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,920 There, and none of us are immune. 30 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,360 I met Candace at the Boston Marathon, which just was a month 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,480 after the Tokyo Marathon, and she told me about her diagnosis. 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,320 However, I have never. Seen someone be this positive? 33 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,320 And selfless as she talked about all of this. 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,960 So Candice wanted to say her story. 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,840 So here we are. Before we hop into her story, 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,320 let's just talk about some stats. 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,440 In the United States, there will be 300,000 cases. 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,200 That's an estimate obviously diagnosed in 2024, which is 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,759 crazy, but luckily there is a lot of advancement when it comes 40 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:13,080 to cancer and especially early detection. 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,520 There's a pretty good survival rate. 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,840 I also looked up some sets when it comes to. 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Running and breast cancer. And they say there's a positive 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,320 link between running and developing breast cancer. 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,840 There's a lower risk for that. Studies. 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Show that women with good cardiorespiratory fitness have 47 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:30,240 decreased chance of getting cancer. 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,480 The possible explanation for that is exercise helps maintain 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,440 a healthy weight, which is definitely a factor when it 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,520 comes to breast. Cancer. 51 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,360 But then again, here we are. Sometimes you do. 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,280 All the right things and there's nothing we could have done 53 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,880 better. Than you know the things we do. 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,680 To try to prevent it. So unfortunately, Candace is in. 55 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,920 Her situation, but she has a very positive. 56 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:54,440 Mindset and she's doing everything. 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,560 And yeah, with that, I'm just gonna let you guys listen to my 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,360 conversation with her. All right, so I'm on here with 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,440 Candace Burroughs. Candace, thank you so much. 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,040 For joining me today you're. Welcome. 61 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,600 I'm so excited to have this time with you. 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,520 I've been looking forward to it. Yeah, me too. 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,240 Me too. And you know, let's talk a 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,240 little bit about our circumstances of how we met. 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,680 We met in Boston at the marathon because we knew mutual people. 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,840 And while we were standing there joking around, you shared your 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,920 journey with me. I have no better way of of 68 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:34,800 describing it. I was just kind of dumbfounded 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,680 by it and inspired by your positivity and your outlook on 70 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,040 life. So that was pretty amazing to 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,040 meet you that way. But. 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,120 But let's let our. Listeners, in a little bit, 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,680 maybe you can, in your own words, introduce yourself and 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,800 tell us who you are before your diagnosis. 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Sure. So I've, I'm new to the running 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,720 community. I love to refer to myself as an 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,200 amateur because I'm not out there doing these bigger things 78 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,160 that are that I'm just totally inspired by. 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,640 So I started running about four years ago and I've been able to 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,680 start with the 5K and go into 10 KS and half marathons. 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,160 And then one day I was like, you know, I'd love to run a full and 82 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,720 I on lottery, sent a, a, an entry into Chicago and got in 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,760 and I was like, oh boy, like this is happening. 84 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,280 So and that was in the fall of 21. 85 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,400 So slowly I started to dip into, you know, the world of 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,120 marathons. I have a huge bucket list of fun 87 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,960 things I want to do. And I the iconic weekend of 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,480 Boston was, you know, supposed to be the celebration weekend, 89 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,840 right? That's the weekend that you go 90 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:44,080 into Boston, you see all your runner friends, you meet new 91 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,560 runner friends, you connect, you go and watch people on the 92 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,680 stage, buy all your merch. And on Thursday before the Expo, 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:57,080 I had found out that I was going to be having surgery the day of 94 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,960 the Boston Marathon instead of running the Boston Marathon. 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,240 And I had just come off of running in Tokyo in March. 96 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,840 And I was like gonna run my first races like this 97 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:09,440 back-to-back, like six weeks apart. 98 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,960 I was pretty excited about seeing how well my body would 99 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,200 do. And I had gotten diagnosed with 100 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,160 breast cancer on March 26th. So I come home from Tokyo, find 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,240 out I have breast cancer, and then my whole world and my whole 102 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,960 year was no longer the plan. So I found out Thursday before 103 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,720 Boston that I would not be running on Monday and I would be 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,760 switching one marathon for another. 105 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,120 So. And when I met you, I had sworn 106 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,040 to my friend Jen that you got to meet that day, my friend Jared. 107 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,400 Everybody was asking me, are you running Monday? 108 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Are you running Monday? And I was tired of telling 109 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,720 people why I wasn't. So I just kept saying, yes, I'm 110 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,120 running. But then when I met you and 111 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,480 Jared was like, you can talk to her, like you can tell her. 112 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:56,760 And I was like, I'm not running. And you were the one of the 113 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,040 first people. I actually told that I'm not 114 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,880 running on Monday because I, I felt like I could be open in 115 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,400 that little place. Our big yellow Unicorn was with 116 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,840 us. Like we were all in just a 117 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,560 hiatus moment. And I was like, no, I'm not 118 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,640 running. And This is why. 119 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,800 So yeah, it it, it, it literally happened so fast that even right 120 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,080 now so much as a blur, it just unraveled so quickly. 121 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,600 Yeah, you know, and I've, I've never really thought about that. 122 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,160 Obviously, luckily I've never had to deal with it and 123 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,640 obviously none of us are safe. But at this point in my life, 124 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,160 I've never had to think about how quick something like that 125 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 can happen, right? Because when you're not 126 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,560 diagnosed with anything, you kind of think. 127 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,040 Oh, what would I do? If it were to ever happen and 128 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,720 you think you have all this time. 129 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,360 Whereas you're in the situation. That something happens and 130 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,920 something needs to be done and everything moves quite quickly. 131 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,880 So maybe tell us a little bit about this diagnosis because you 132 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,600 ran Tokyo. Right before and prior to. 133 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,120 That you'd run a marathon honoring someone who had passed 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,000 because of cancer. So tell us a little. 135 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,560 Bit more about how that was for you. 136 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,600 Sure. So I trained for Tokyo in a 12 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,280 week training period. My coach and I, Kelly decided 138 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:11,920 that I had just come off of running Marine Corps in October 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,000 and I wanted to take a little bit more time off to let my body 140 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,920 heal because I've been running back-to-back marathon since the 141 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,760 fall of 21. I've, I've completed five of the 142 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,720 world majors in like 2 years and Berlin this year was my sixth 143 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,040 star and I was going to get those all done under three 144 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,160 years. Like that to me was such a cool 145 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,600 goal, you know, to have because I know it takes average 8 to 10 146 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,120 years for people to get into these bigger races. 147 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,280 And I, I've been blessed to just get into them back-to-back. 148 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,600 So and her and I decided a 12 week plan would be enough 149 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,920 because I was seasoned. I've been running so much. 150 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,760 She's like, take the break, enjoy it. 151 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,040 And so we jumped into training after the new year and I, I felt 152 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,600 pretty good. I had no idea I had cancer, had 153 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,680 no idea. And I was in Tokyo and you know, 154 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,480 we're, we're always picking our girls up in our bra, we're 155 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,320 fixing ourselves. And I did that and felt some 156 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,320 pain on my left side and I was like, that's weird. 157 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:15,440 And then I pushed and I could feel something in there and I 158 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,360 was like, that's not normal. So I told my friend Liz that I 159 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,200 was in Tokyo with we roomed together, we raced London and 160 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Tokyo together. And as soon as I came home, I 161 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,920 had had a mammogram 5 months before, so I hadn't gone that 162 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,440 long without having imaging. And I had clear margins on that 163 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,720 last fall. So it had grown to the size of 164 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,559 about a walnut. It was 4 1/2 centimeters in 165 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,960 diameter. And it it, it just literally 166 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,400 happened overnight. But I ran a marathon with 167 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,480 cancer. I trained with cancer, had no 168 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,160 idea that I had it. And then once I got home, I 169 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,400 started to go through that process of finding out what it 170 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,920 was. But yeah, so Kelly and I, my 171 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:03,960 coach, she has trained me for every marathon going forward. 172 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,360 And from fall of 21 and her dad had passed away from pancreatic 173 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,200 cancer. I've ran for quite a few 174 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,800 charities now that are pertaining to cancer. 175 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,400 So we ran for Pancreatic UK for London Marathon in honor of her 176 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,840 dad. So that was probably the most 177 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,000 emotional race. It was APR race and it was a 178 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,640 race where it had a lot of sentimental value to it. 179 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,120 And the fact that we both got to run it together was it it just 180 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,600 really, it's hard to get the words out. 181 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,600 It was, it was really an amazing moment. 182 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,160 It was emotional, exciting and it it was so dear to her that I 183 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,000 was glad to have that experience with her. 184 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Wow. And then you mentioned that it 185 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,320 was super hard to let her know about your diagnosis, right? 186 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,080 Yeah, that was tough. I cried on the phone with her 187 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,280 because I'm the first athlete that she's been able to do all 188 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,800 these six majors with. And we had this whole plan that 189 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,520 once I was done Berlin, we were going to maybe come up with like 190 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,840 a cool little thing to add to her running page because I 191 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,000 wanted to promote her as much as I can. 192 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,240 She's amazing of a coach. She is a no pressure type of 193 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,240 coach where like if it was a day or a week that I just was not 194 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,080 feeling it and I was not dialed in, she was like, that's fine. 195 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,520 Take the day off. You know, she wasn't that coach. 196 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,160 It was like we got a plug, plug, plug. 197 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,000 It was she she we've always just had this understanding that if 198 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,240 we stick to the plan, we're going to get to the finish line 199 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,040 and we always have together. And then to come and tell her 200 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,400 that my whole year is no longer our year as we planned. 201 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,280 It was tough to tell her because I know that she had had another 202 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,320 loved 1A, loved one close to her that she had lost and now she 203 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,600 had one of her athletes that she's been working with for 204 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,040 three years tell her that I'm now in this battle. 205 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,480 So that was hard for me. Wow. 206 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Yeah. And if you don't mind me asking, 207 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,560 what type of cancer is it? And maybe tell us how 208 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:02,200 aggressive, non aggressive and the treatability of it is? 209 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:08,200 Sure. So I have stage two AIDC, it's 210 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,600 invasive ductal carcinoma. I'm a grade 3 and I have a 211 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,800 triple negative tumor. So breaking that down, stage 2A 212 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,760 means it's considered early stage and they base that off of 213 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,560 the size of my tumor. Anything between 2:00 and 5:00 214 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:26,560 centimeters is considered a stage two and I was a 4.4. 215 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:30,360 So we were able to say that this is considered an early stage. 216 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,840 I even know it had mast the size so quickly. 217 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:37,400 So grade 3 means my tumor was a a good size. 218 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,440 So grade 3 gives them an idea of where that falls on a tumor 219 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,600 size. Triple negative is where it gets 220 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,600 complex. Every breast cancer tumor has 221 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,480 three different types of hormone receptors that medically has 222 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:58,360 been detected. Her two progesterone and 223 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,480 estrogen. So typically when a woman has 224 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,360 that biopsy and we find out what hormone receptors are on there, 225 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 it tells the oncologist how to treat it. 226 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,480 OK, In my case, all of my hormone receptors are negative. 227 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,840 So that tells them that there is a hormone receptor that probably 228 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,320 will be receptive, but they don't know it yet. 229 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,680 So now we have to attack and treat the tumor a little bit 230 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:27,680 more aggressively and I have to get chemo and immunotherapy. 231 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,640 So as a combination, I have two different types of drugs that 232 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:37,240 they have to administer and I have a, mine is a little more 233 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:43,400 complex where survival rate over five years, depending on what 234 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,200 certain numbers look at can be a little bit of a challenge. 235 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,080 And that kind of puts me in that category. 236 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,800 So in my mind, I'm very optimistic and I'm very positive 237 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,920 that I will be the anomaly and I'm going to beat it. 238 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,280 But the numbers on the other side statistically don't look 239 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,760 all that great for me. But I, I don't think that that's 240 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,240 me. I think I'm going to crack the 241 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,040 code of changing things and coming out of this, you know, 242 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,080 better than some in the past and maybe make those numbers a 243 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,600 little better. OK. 244 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,160 So wow, so OK, so then right now you are on medication and 245 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,120 chemotherapy. Do you have to have surgery or? 246 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,440 When does that play in? So a lot of women have surgery 247 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,960 first because they have a positive receptor and they know 248 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,240 what medicine is going to crack that tumor down or get the 249 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,320 remnants of what could have been in there. 250 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,800 Mine because I I don't have a positive receptor, my tumor had 251 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,120 to stay with me. So I have named her Barb. 252 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,480 I call her Barb the Bitch because if you've ever watched 253 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,080 Stranger Things, Barb's an episode the first season and she 254 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,840 does die. So I plan on Barb dying and 255 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,800 leaving me, but she's got to stay with me right now, so she's 256 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 in there. She'll be with me until it 257 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,880 decides to go away. I have 20 weeks of chemo total, 258 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,760 so I'll be in treatment until the end of September. 259 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Then at that point, I just met with my surgeon. 260 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,600 We will go through surgery. We will go through some 261 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,880 expansion and then I will have a reconstruction of my breast in 262 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,200 November, December. So that and no radiation. 263 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,800 Right now they're saying no radiation, so that's good news. 264 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,480 It's so complicated, you know, with with the different cancer 265 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,360 stages, receptors, positive, negative and all that stuff. 266 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,120 How do you Did you have any knowledge of that prior to that 267 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,280 or was this all something new for you to learn? 268 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,240 I had no idea. I had no idea. 269 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,840 All I knew is that you're supposed to get a mammogram 270 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,560 every year when you turn 40, do home breast exams. 271 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,000 I am the first person in my family to have an abnormal 272 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,120 mammogram. It is not in my family. 273 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,720 I have nobody in the family that's ever had any type of 274 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,360 breast issue or cancer. So I don't have a lot of 275 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,400 experience with it. So I remember the first meeting 276 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,120 with my breast surgeon, Doctor Goss. 277 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,640 I think I remembered 30% of that day. 278 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,920 I don't remember the other 70%. My husband was writing things 279 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:21,760 down because my mind was so boggled with diagnosis, imaging, 280 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,320 getting that pathology report, meeting my surgeon and 281 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,760 oncologist that my head was just so spinning. 282 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,840 And I was like, wait a minute, this isn't what my year was 283 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,680 supposed to be like. Like what is going on? 284 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,960 So I've had to do a lot of research and write a lot of 285 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,800 notes down. And I only go to three different 286 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,160 websites, primarily just breastcancer.org, because 287 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,560 there's so much stuff online that it's terrifying. 288 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,360 And you don't want to get into that rabbit hole of reading 289 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,320 other people's cases and say, Oh my God, it's a death sentence 290 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,560 because breast cancer is not a death sentence. 291 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,960 And people need to know that that their medicine has come 292 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,520 very far and they know a lot about what they're dealing with 293 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,520 today, that it is not a death sentence anymore for a lot of 294 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,440 women that get diagnosed. So yeah. 295 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,720 Yeah, absolutely. And it sounds like it was a 296 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,080 early diagnosis. Obviously, you said it was. 297 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,600 But I mean, I'm just kind of blown away by the fact that your 298 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,320 mammogram had only been five months prior to that. 299 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,280 And at that time, it was already when you found it, it was over 4 300 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,120 centimeters. That's pretty aggressive. 301 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,600 It Yeah. And our year, like we had a 302 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,920 rough year where our daughter had a little condition in her 303 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,920 legs. So like, my focus, the beginning 304 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,040 of the year was her surgery in January, me training for Tokyo 305 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,240 and me not being nervous about flying across the world to go 306 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,920 train and to go race in another country, that this thing was 307 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,320 probably always there, but I didn't feel it until it became 308 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,800 painful. So like, my focus was my 309 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,040 children, my family, work, training and not me. 310 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,360 So I probably could have gotten it even earlier if I was 311 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,400 actually paying more attention. But I wasn't doing that breast 312 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,560 exam as you should all the time. And you know, I found it when I 313 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,560 did. And I'm very thankful that we 314 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,960 did get it when it was on the smaller side, so to speak, you 315 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,319 know? And now the medicine that you're 316 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,560 taking is suppressing the growth of it? 317 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,839 It is. Actually, I went for an 318 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,160 appointment Monday and my oncologist couldn't find it. 319 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,640 So as of right now and I told one of my friends this morning 320 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,440 just while we were walking and running for Global Running Day 321 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,880 today. I told her that when he first 322 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,440 had seen it and felt that it was six to seven centimeters by the 323 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,000 outside touch. When he gave me an exam of his 324 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,080 fingers and being able to detect the size and when he checked me 325 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,120 this week, he said you were responding exceptionally well to 326 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:43,240 treatment. I cannot feel the tumor. 327 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,960 So like that is what keeps going through my mind this week as 328 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,280 exceptionally well to treatment. It's just been the most amazing 329 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,880 thing to hear. It doesn't mean I'm out of the 330 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,800 woods by any means. I have a long way to go. 331 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,360 But that right there, after only six weeks of chemo, told me that 332 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,880 we're on the right track. You know, that's awesome. 333 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,480 That's awesome. So happy to hear that and 334 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,800 hopefully it'll keep going that way and we can watch your 335 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,560 journey unfold and, you know, see you come out of it. 336 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,160 How are you feeling and how are you? 337 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,600 Are you still running a lot? What's going on with that? 338 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,400 Yeah, my capacity is not where it was. 339 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,000 You know, I, I try to get out there and do like a four or five 340 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,880 mile run on a Saturday. Sundays I usually walk, I take 341 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,560 a, a little bit of an easier day. 342 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,760 Monday mornings I run about 3 or 4 miles on a Monday morning and 343 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,640 I go to track on Tuesday before chemo. 344 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:40,200 So I get some speed work in on Tuesdays, but I only do it based 345 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,520 on how I feel. So last Tuesday, 2 Tuesdays ago, 346 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,800 I did a progression run, started at like a 10 minute pace and 347 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,520 finished my last fifth mile at like an 830. 348 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,840 And then the next week I just did an easy pace, a fast pace, a 349 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,160 walking pace. I just kind of did what I wanted 350 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,040 because I could. I'm not on a training schedule. 351 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,400 And then this past week I, I did not recover well from chemo last 352 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,520 week. So this week it was a little bit 353 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,040 more challenging at track. I did some walking, I did some 354 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,720 intervals of slow pace and I got 3 miles in yesterday. 355 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,640 So my coach and my, I mean, my doctor and my chemo nurse are 356 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,360 just like beside themselves because nobody is doing this, I 357 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:25,480 guess during chemo. But I'm very fortunate enough on 358 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,280 my good days that I can, I can still do something. 359 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:32,160 I love it, I love it and, and do you think that running has 360 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,640 prepared you for that, for that journey a little bit better than 361 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,640 most? That's actually a really great 362 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,960 question, and this is something that I've said to a few people. 363 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,200 When you train for a marathon that is that's the hard part. 364 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,760 The race is the celebration, OK? That's the part where you're 365 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,920 just like, yeah, like even if it's not your best race, that is 366 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,800 the celebration, that's the party. 367 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:03,160 This whole journey I just started is very much similar. 368 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Like I carb load two days before chemo because I know I'm not 369 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,200 going to eat well for three days after. 370 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,680 It's just so weird how so many of the running component has 371 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,040 played into this journey of mine. 372 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,680 So like, I don't have much of A taste on the after chemo for 3-4 373 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,440 days. Everything tastes like a 374 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,080 cardboard metallic taste. It it's just. 375 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,320 Disgusting. Everything tastes gross unless 376 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,280 it's sweet. Ice cream is like my best friend 377 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,800 right now. I go to New Road which is an 378 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,680 Herbalife shake place in town. I get a meal replacement shake 379 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,640 and a tea there. That has been a good energy 380 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,240 source. Boo shakes are good. 381 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,800 They have like 20 grams of protein. 382 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,400 I consume about 80 grams of protein a day. 383 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,840 That is how much my weight based off of is what my doctors are 384 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,320 very much pushing for to keep my energy level up and my calories 385 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,200 up. So I usually eat real good a few 386 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,160 days before my taste buds start to come back and then I'm on a 387 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,520 lighter diet for 3-4 days. So but yeah, it, it's very 388 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,440 similar. It's, it's just a different 389 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,000 race, a different capacity, but very similar, you know, on how 390 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,000 you do both things. So have you been vocal about 391 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,240 your diagnosis with, I know you have a personal Facebook 392 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,440 obviously, as as we all do, and then we have our Instagrams, we 393 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,760 post all things running. Have you been open about your 394 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,320 diagnosis and what have you seen coming back from the running 395 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,680 community that we know is usually very supportive 396 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,720 community? Yes, I have been vocal about it. 397 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,400 Actually it was, I think, I think it was like this Saturday 398 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,560 before the Boston Marathon because I was running for a 399 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,520 local. So the iconic church at the 400 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,760 starting, at the start line, the big white Korean church, that 401 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,280 was the church I was fundraising money for. 402 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,800 I was the sole, I was the sole runner for that church 403 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,960 fundraising for them. And I felt that after all those 404 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,960 people had donated all this money that I should probably 405 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,000 tell people why I'm not running Boston. 406 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,920 So I, I did put a post up. It was like a butterfly with a 407 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,480 small breast cancer saying. And I did put my a little bit of 408 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,240 my story out there and the running community is like no 409 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,600 other. And anybody that runs in any 410 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,640 capacity will agree with me. I mean, people just want to see 411 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,440 you win and they want to see you happy and strong and support 412 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,560 you. And I've got such an influx of 413 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,240 people that have written to me that have asked me what I need. 414 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,840 I get boxes and cards and so much support randomly from 415 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,320 people all the time. And on the days when I'm out 416 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,080 there running, I get so much inspiration from the days I'm 417 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,920 not feeling good, I go back and look at those posts because 418 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,600 they're all like, you're so amazing, you're so 419 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,120 inspirational, It's amazing. Keep going, you know? 420 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:57,360 And that's the stuff on the harder day when I'm like 421 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:00,440 literally falling apart because everything hurts. 422 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,000 Even my eyeballs hurt, my toes hurt, everything hurts. 423 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,840 So like on those days where I'm like F my life, this is just 424 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,760 brutal. I go back and I look at those 425 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,720 posts and that mentally pulls me out of that place that my body 426 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,680 is trying to put me in, if that makes sense. 427 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,240 It's a mind over matter. So I, I, the people and the 428 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,000 community that has written to me, supported me, send me text 429 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,760 messages. I mean, it has just been unreal 430 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,880 how supportive everybody's been. I love this. 431 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,920 And that's kind of what I was expecting, right? 432 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,280 Because as you said, we do cheer each other on. 433 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,080 I mean, of course there's always separate instances, but like 434 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,240 anything in life, but most runners are super supportive of 435 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760 each other. The community is tight knit. 436 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,200 We live. All over the world, yet we. 437 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,400 Get to know each other and cheer each other on during that 438 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,920 journey. So I'm super glad to hear that. 439 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,760 All right, so now from our sponsor Tifosi Optics. 440 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,280 Tifosi, the brand name. 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But yes, I've had a couple of 484 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,800 people that have reached out and been like, Oh my God, I, I have 485 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,640 also done this or I had gone through this. 486 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,400 And I do kind of have a little thing behind the scenes I'm 487 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,360 starting to put together here. I am looking to put a book 488 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,800 together and write my first book. 489 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,480 And I have a woman who is willing to publish and I, I want 490 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,480 to incorporate runners in this book that are from all 50 states 491 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,280 that have gone through the running the cancer back to ultra 492 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,880 running or running marathons or running a 5K, men and women. 493 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,920 And I want to incorporate that in my book. 494 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,160 So I think as I go forward with this book journey I'm looking to 495 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080 do, I'm going to find a whole lot more people out there that 496 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,760 can relate to what I'm going through. 497 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,680 Absolutely. And that sounds pretty amazing 498 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,200 and a good resource also for future diagnosis people that 499 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,280 obviously you know, kind of like you when you find out about 500 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,440 something like you, unless you have known someone you're kind 501 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,560 of starting at square one. So that'll be awesome for for 502 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,360 people to share and read and and be inspired by. 503 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,560 I guess my last question is going to be you said you're 504 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,600 going to have treatment through September and what? 505 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,000 Is. The plan then what is going to 506 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,720 happen with your? Running What are your goals? 507 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,360 Well, I'd like to say that I wish I could make it to Berlin. 508 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,720 The treatment that I'm going to get from my last eight weeks is 509 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,520 going to be the hardest part of my treatment. 510 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,360 That drug is the most toxic drug on the market. 511 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,280 I can only get it every other week because it will take a week 512 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,920 for my body and my numbers to come back up so I can get 513 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,480 treatment again. Berlin is September 29th, so I 514 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,520 will be at the very tail end of that. 515 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,960 So running in that marathon's not happening this year, but I'm 516 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,000 very happy to say that Berlin did defer me to next year. 517 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,080 It is the only world major that does allow a deferral. 518 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,960 So again, very blessed that I'm able to to have that to look 519 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,200 forward to for 25. But I don't know. 520 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,440 I have some friends that are running the Teen Milk Women's 521 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,160 Marathon down in Savannah, GA in November. 522 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,440 I'm going to go down and inspect tape, but I don't know, I could 523 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,240 be a last minute. Maybe I'll do it. 524 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840 I don't know. It really depends on my surgery 525 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,520 plan. But I haven't really thought 526 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,840 about how I want to celebrate just yet. 527 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,360 I think I just want to get through this as strong as I can 528 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640 and that that gives me something to think about. 529 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440 But I haven't really put much thought into that part yet. 530 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,600 Well, if you're going to the women's marathon, then I'm going 531 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,240 to go too. I'm going to plan that out. 532 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,640 Yeah. Yeah. 533 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,080 Even if I'm just spectating. Let's be, let's connect. 534 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,960 We've got a lot of girlfriends going down there. 535 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,440 It's going to be a great weekend. 536 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,560 And you know, that race right now has me so excited because 537 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,760 people really panic about a cut off time, right? 538 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120 Like that. Let's forget about how stressful 539 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,840 training and then the distance, you know, and then you got to 540 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080 cut off time. So now women have this whole 541 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360 thought like, wow, now I have an even longer cut off time where 542 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,640 it takes off that edge. And I love that everybody's 543 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,920 going to be able to go to that race. 544 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,280 And even if it's not your best race, there's no pressure. 545 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,240 You have such a buffer that you can just go walk, run, enjoy. 546 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,480 And I'm really excited to be there to see that. 547 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,560 Well, this past weekend in Newport, RI, they had the race, 548 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:02,560 the Newport 10 Miller. And since I started running, I 549 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,240 haven't missed that a year, except for the year of COVID. 550 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,120 And I knew I wasn't going to be able to run that. 551 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,760 So I, my friend and I, Janice, went down for the day, watched 552 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960 our friends run it. We were going to bike it and 553 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,480 kind of take our bikes and ride around Newport. 554 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,600 And we decided to rent those Scoop coops. 555 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,960 It's the three Wheeler. Oh my God, we had the blast. 556 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,880 So that was like, I'm loving the spectating. 557 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,000 I'm loving that back seat. Take a rest. 558 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,840 As much as it's it it, it really bothers me some days. 559 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Other days I'm really enjoying watching my friends run and 560 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,600 being the spectator, cheering everybody on. 561 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,360 It's been super fun, so I'm going to keep embracing that 562 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,160 throughout the rest of the year, yeah. 563 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,520 No. And and I guess that's also 564 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280 another learning lesson, right? It's nice to see and be on the 565 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,240 other side. And you have enough pressure in 566 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,040 your life right now. You don't need to have another 567 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,640 pressure of having to. Complete a race and putting 568 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,600 more. Stress on yourself. 569 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960 You're doing great the way you. Are you're still running? 570 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,120 You're running before you go. Chemotherapy appointments, I 571 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,520 mean, that's something. Yep, in any capacity, I'm just 572 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,080 whether it's a walk or a run or an interval or whatever. 573 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,400 It is just the fact that my body is able to be strong enough to 574 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,760 get out there, you know, and I get to see my friends and they, 575 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,960 they rejuvenate my soul every day. 576 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320 So that to me is, is a game changer. 577 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,080 I think in this journey is having the good support group 578 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,800 and people that are there for you and keep me moving, you 579 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,520 know, and my doctors are very supportive of how much I'm 580 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,000 moving. So they're like, if you can do 581 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,680 it, keep doing it. And I'm that's my plan is to 582 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,160 keep doing it. I love. 583 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,760 It and yeah thank you so much for coming on and if our 584 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,040 listeners want to follow you on Instagram or see what your 585 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,560 journey is like how can. They best find you. 586 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,720 Sure, so my running page on Instagram is under Kiki runs 587 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,120 26.2. It used to be Kiki Runs for 588 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,760 Stars, but then I started running other marathons and not 589 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360 just the majors. So I switched it up and did Kiki 590 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,720 runs two point 26.2. And yeah, that's it. 591 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760 That's, that's my handle for Instagram. 592 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,480 And yeah, I would love if anybody out there is going 593 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,080 through this journey right now or has or got a recent 594 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,560 diagnosis, I would love to talk with you and help in any way 595 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,520 that I can. And you may be able to actually 596 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,800 help me as well seeing I'm in the beginning of this journey 597 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,120 myself. So any support is greatly 598 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,520 appreciated. Absolutely. 599 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080 And we'll link all your information in our show notes. 600 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,000 Thank you so much. For coming on and speaking with 601 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 me. You are so welcome. 602 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,960 Thank you. Thank you, Candace so much for 603 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,880 coming. On and speaking with me. 604 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,480 We'll keep in touch and. Then you know we'll we'll keep 605 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,240 you. Listeners updated. 606 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,880 If you want to follow her again, I'm going to link all her 607 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,800 socials, et cetera, in our show notes. 608 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,640 And that's it for today. Short and sweet with the inter 609 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,200 and outro. Next week you're going to have a 610 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,480 podcast on how to become a better racer. 611 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,240 So we're going to talk to a running coach who also qualified 612 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,480 and ran at the Olympic trials, who has definitely a lot of 613 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,680 experience when it comes to racing about what we can do to 614 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,840 set us set ourselves up in the best way possible. 615 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,360 If you guys like our podcast, be sure to like and subscribe and 616 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,080 maybe leave us a positive review. 617 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,240 Reviews help us very much grow in this space and again we are 618 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,320 on YouTube as at Marathon Running Podcast. 619 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160 And until next time, have a great week of running. 620 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,240 Thanks for tuning in For more information. 621 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,120 And marathon running news, please. 622 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,960 Head to www.marathonrunningpodcast.com 623 00:33:47,080 --> 00:34:02,560 and we'll be back next week. 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