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This episode is going to be a 
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Monday's regular episode has 
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morning. 
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to speak about the Olympic 
trials that happened this 

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Saturday, February 3rd, 2024. 
If you are not into that, this 

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is a time to log off. 
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little teaser. 
We have some audio clips from 

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the press conference that I was 
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the audio quality is not that 
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It's not my camera. 
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in a tent and there was 
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of right close to there, so I'm 
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I'm also learning about all of 
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As you guys know, I'm new to 
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with time. 
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there with me. 
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it's a little horse from 
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All right, let's start with the 
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The women's marathon trial was 
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her debut marathon at the 
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She's only 25 years old and her 
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Sacramento, CA. 
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obviously the view we already 
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second-half marathon. 
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the American record holder in 
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Everybody already knows her. 
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coming in in two hours 25 
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Dakota Lindworm is 28 years old 
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career highlights include being 
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winner in 21 and 22. 
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from Chicago last year, so all 
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Olympics in August because they 
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unlocking standard of two hours,
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I know that stuff is super 
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kind of getting used to it that,
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time of 237, but then there's 
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So before we go into a play by 
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race with our favorites, let's 
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Connor Months came in at 2 
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his teammate Clayton Young, who 
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Months. 
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unlocked the Olympic standard 
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8 minutes and 10 seconds. 
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last year. 
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currently also lives in Utah. 
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partner Clayton Young, who had 
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old, also from Utah, also 
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hours, 8 minutes and 10 second 
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friendship and camaraderie and 
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hop into that later as we listen
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where they talk about their 
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It's kind of cool for 3rd. 
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in. 
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through the finish line at 2 
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needs to do in order to actually
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hopefully it will happen. 
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he's a naturalized citizen 
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Amsterdam in 2019. 
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able of doing it all. 
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through a little bit of what was
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during this race. 
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Orlando at the time of race 
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when people go out really fast. 
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d'amato, she was leading the 
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was a 532 and then the second 
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which if they would have kept up
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I think they went to about 53534
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halfway mark, which was in one 
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dwindled to only 5 contenders, 
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Sarah Hall, Betsy Sina and Emily
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Dakota Lindworm, who in the end,
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She was about 8 seconds behind. 
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how she was able to not drop but
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O'keefee, the leader, the debut 
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ahead with a 520 second mile. 
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lead at that time, which during 
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couldn't decide whether she 
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inexperience or not. 
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little bit of not knowing what I
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By mile 22 she had a lead over 
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Sisson and the crowd kept 
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Paris, Paris at her. 
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and, you know, going so fast 
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splits for the 25th mile, which 
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Emily Sisson, during the press 
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feel so hot throughout the day. 
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earlier than she had expected, 
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Hall, they contested for the 
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had gone up. 
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in 71 degrees. 
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lesson for us. 
They are just going for it. 

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Sarah Hall also slipped back 
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Lindworm in the final Miles was 
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550-4544 and a six O 5 mile. 
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She still had a margin in her 
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front of McCain, who was really 
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absolutely crazy and amazing and
also heartbreaking because the 

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gap behind them, number three 
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weren't that big of a gap. 
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must be going through the minds 
of these athletes that train 

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super hard and then having a 
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either reaching their goal or 
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reaching our goal. 
That must be super heartbreaking

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or, you know, celebratory for if
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So for the guys, the race 
started obviously in the same 

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temperature, just 10 minutes 
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Zach Panning, who we haven't 
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probably know him, is 28 years 
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He started leading the pack by 
mile 6, going a 449 pace mile, 

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obviously creating that lead 
pack that kept on going further 

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away from most of the runners, 
but at that point most of the 

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favourites were still in the 
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Scott Fable, who is originally 
from Colorado now living in 

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Flagstaff, 32 years old, ended 
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11:10 or 11:00 and then also 
five time Olympian Abdi Abdi 

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Rahman. 
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halfway point. 
Same with same Shalanga who is 

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living in Colorado Springs and 
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He also ended up dropping out of
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So now we're at the halfway 
point where Zach Panning came 

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through at one hour, 4 minutes 
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He actually did another search 
where he recorded the mile at 4 

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hours. 
I'm sorry, 4 minutes in 48 

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seconds. 
And then by mile 17 he had 

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reached a four minute 44 mile, 
which that's obviously crazy 

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fast. 
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Galen Rob started dropping back 
and by mile 19 the lead pack had

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turned into only three people 
which were obviously Panning 

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once and Young and by mail 22. 
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Panning, he must have started 
feeling the fatigue because he 

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started dropping back. 
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and Clayton Young past Panning, 
flew by him and the battle for 

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the third place started, which 
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Panning. 
All the Courier hadn't met the 

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standard as we've already 
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He started surging and he did 
something crazy. 

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He was going for super fast 
miles, passing, panning and 

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career. 
I'm sorry, Kibet in the last 

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mile and you could see him fly 
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It was quite hysterical and 
moving. 

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So that was that. 
Kibet ended up finishing fourth 

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in two 1002 and then CJ 
Albertson finished fifth in two 

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1007 and panning unfortunately 
came in 6th at 21050, same as 

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with the woman's. 
The men's race was absolutely 

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exhilarating to watch. 
Seeing them run through that 

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finish line, getting the flag 
put on them again, we have 

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Instagram videos on that, seeing
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that. 
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conference and as promised, I'm 
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cleaning that, but the first 
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line. 
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finish line 1st and here is 
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How did you decide who's going 
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I I I was just trying to get him
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More. 
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I just knew that we were going 
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though I might have been feeling
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her to circled away with Connor 
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it just, that's how it took out 
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world. 
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has pulled me through this. 
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practice and he works hard and 
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Clayton Young are being asked 
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about, yeah, 5 1/2 miles or so, 
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looked at him and just didn't 
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anything. 
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looked at me and then I was 
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we're going for it. 
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nobody can hold. 
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away from everyone or everyone 
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20 when he started slowing down 
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looked at each other and we 
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wasn't feeling too hot. 
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which we took the lead and and 
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took the lead for a while and 
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kept telling him stick on us, 
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went exact there. 
He made this race happen and big

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props to him and the Hansen's 
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a strong athlete. 
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couple weeks ago and we got 
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athlete but he's going to bet 
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to him and and I want to see him
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the last couple of miles was 
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let's start, Let's do this. 
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Stick on me. 
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like, enjoy it, enjoy it, soak 
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Those were kind of my monstrous 
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When I peeled off to, you know, 
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probably close to a dozen times 
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And so I jutted over to actually
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as I came into the finish. 
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I didn't want to get DQ and so I
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the flag now and it means a lot 
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to wrap this all up beautifully 
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Kahnemans about their 
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His wife makes his breakfast 
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and I have a couple times. 
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Great friendship. 
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work through the competitiveness
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testing to today as we worked 
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relationship today. 
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It just shows the camaraderie 
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have to compete against others. 
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faster and be better. 
So be your own competition. 

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And this wraps up the podcast 
for this week. 

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And if you haven't listened to 
this morning's podcast yet, 

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where we talk about energy, 
metabolism and what happens to 

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our bodies with an expert, of 
course, then do yourself a favor

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and do that, because you might 
learn something that will help 

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you do a better marathon next 
time. 

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And with that, have a great week
of running. 

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