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In this episode, we're going to 
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the finish line and beyond. 
Hey, runners, and welcome to 

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episode 199. 
My name is Letty. 

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My name is Ryan. 
And we are here to tell a story 

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about the Tokyo Marathon 2024. 
Race recaps your favorite? 

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Yes, I love race recaps. 
I love listening to them. 

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And I guess I love doing them 
too, just because it's such a 

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great experience and you're so 
amped up to go. 

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And here we are back and got to 
share the story, right? 

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Life is all about stories. 
So in traditional form, we can 

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talk about your journey there 
first. 

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Yes. 
Well, first of all, thank you, 

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Ryan, for holding up the Fort at
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As you guys know, we have two 
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traveling a little bit more 
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When you're single, you just 
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have gone with me hopefully, but
it's not the case if if 

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traveling happens like that. 
So I'm really grateful to you. 

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You're welcome. 
So you had to go to Tokyo, which

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is quite a ways away. 
It is. 

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It's a 14 hour flight plus a 
four hour flight. 

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You're going, you know. 
Yeah, 14 hour flight. 

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I don't know if you've ever been
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I have but then the fact that. 
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I flew from here to Texas, which
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And then? 
To Tokyo from there. 

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Which way around did you go? 
Going West. 

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Oh, so it wasn't backwards? 
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That makes sense actually. 
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extra flight from Tokyo, I mean 
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Texas, that extra 4 hours made 
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ever been on. 
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So I guess it probably is we we 
could look it up. 

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It's probably quicker to go 
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Thailand, there was flights that
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So you can either go One 
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the other direction because it's
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the on the other side of the 
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Yeah, yeah, it's. 
So it's a long flight. 

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Are you jet lagged? 
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guess I was jet lagged 
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evening time, so I just tried to
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9:00 PM and then went to sleep 
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had the best sleep. 
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All right. 
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ourselves, I know that you had 
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Marathon in the past. 
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about, like your journey, but 
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Marathon? 
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So getting into Tokyo seems to 
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right? 
I had never tried to enter a 

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lottery because there's a 
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charities, and we'll talk about 
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But I entered the the lottery 
trying to make a point that it 

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would be easier to get into that
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And it was kind of a joke. 
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this was in 2022 and I wasn't 
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didn't want to just let it go 
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option for one day because of 
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And so I, you know, a year later
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it. 
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trying to get into Tokyo. 
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where you it's different than 
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You kind of just place a bid 
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You don't have to fundraise for 
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in with a bid and I think he 
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like that to to be selected from
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So he did charity, but it didn't
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Was his bid used for charity? 
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And I don't know of any other 
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you're a Japanese, I think you 
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couldn't really understand the 
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to. 
Because you're not Japanese. 

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Yes, it didn't didn't. 
It didn't apply. 

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But you're not helping our 
Japanese listeners. 

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I'm not, I'm sorry about that, 
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And search for yourself. 
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Japanese. 
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So you kind of alluded to it, 
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Well, kind of by myself, but 
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from here were going, my friend 
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and they had two more people, 
their support system going as 

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well, Patty and Michael. 
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Naples too. 
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the same flight, although we 
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class in the airplane. 
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You were in coach? 
I was in coach, yes. 

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I was kind of almost, you know, 
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Maybe in 10 years, when the 
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huge, you'll fly first class. 
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So it's the first time you've 
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Right. 
First time in Japan. 

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Yes. 
And there are some things that I

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wish I could have. 
I mean, I should have researched

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better. 
I didn't realize that, you know,

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not having currency would be an 
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I usually get by with just using
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coupled out with a language 
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I had a couple instances where, 
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quickly. 
My first dinner there, I went to

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a restaurant with my friend Min 
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You could order on the iPad and 
everything else, but then it was

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time to pay and they said cash 
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Really threw me for a loop and 
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issue. 
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people let us come back the next
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Didn't have to work in the 
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Didn't have to work on the 
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likes to flash his Rolex, didn't
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It's collateral. 
Yep, That's good trusting. 

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It's actually really rare for, 
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They probably wouldn't let you 
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Well, I don't know what else 
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Because he tried to use his ATM 
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It didn't work. 
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So live and learn. 
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yen. 
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you can use currency, and I just
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in the middle of a trip. 
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a card called Suika card and you
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is really kind of cool as. 
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As a cash card and they can and 
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the train system and everything.
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train system only, but then 
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However, my credit card, you 
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didn't let me load money up to 
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trying it because I was afraid 
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working completely and then I 
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screwed. 
Any other tips for Japan? 

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Transportation is easy. 
Take public transportation. 

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It's very. 
It's funny because you can't 

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read any of it, but then you can
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very logical. 
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north you know numbers go up and
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what city it's going to not 
shitty city it's going to and 

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and you just follow that and 
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than using public transportation
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cleaner. 
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New York's not very clean, 
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I've never been. 
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make you carry your own trash, 
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reasons why it is so clean. 
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trash, but you know, I think 
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clean. 
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personal care too. 
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sit down on the toilet and it's 
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all the functions. 
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go to the bathroom. 
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The seats I've heard of the 
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Seats are heated. 
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Famous for the toilets. 
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Beautiful Ryan. 
I'm going to order one of those 

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seats. 
Among other things, yes. 

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But OK, so let's move on to your
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The Expo, so a little highlight 
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I had a pass which allowed me to
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heard traumatizing things about 
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people having to stand in line 
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So we were able to go there and 
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its opening and then also go in,
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ceremony and then we were also 
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fast pass where we could just go
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and I heard, you know, I, you 
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race merch or I never get the 
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have so many of them and people 
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It was like Black Friday once 
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there were bins on the ground 
and people were grabbing stuff 

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out of them, it was a really 
crazy. 

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Yeah, teach their own. 
I'm not a big memorabilia fan 

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either, but so, but you still 
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seeing the Expos and seeing 
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Is there anything different or 
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other ones? 
It was bigger and I I, you know,

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I don't know it, it just had 
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It was fun. 
It was a fun experience. 

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There wasn't as many things to 
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usually kind of like, but it 
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It was a little bit away from 
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So you have the point to point 
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You have the start at Shinjuku 
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train station and then the Expo 
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harbour. 
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walked a lot and did sightseeing
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which was amazing. 
So we'll go through Expos before

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the race. 
Anything else you do after the 

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Expo or up to race day? 
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Friday was a press conference, 
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I was able to go to that as well
and you know, see the invited 

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athletes and the Japanese 
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wheelchair men, women and the 
elite field, which was great. 

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My favorite runner though, 
Benson Kipruto, he wasn't at the

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press conference, which he was 
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runners. 
He wasn't invited to the press 

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conference. 
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well, they only invited three of
the top Kenyan runners and then 

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they had three Japanese guys 
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And it was kind of a bummer 
because he's, he's not an 

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underdog, He's one one of the 
Chicago or Chicago twice and 

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he's one of Boston, but he 
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So he never really gets to be 
highlighted as much because then

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you had kiptam and you know you 
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And so those are the two Kenyans
everyone talks about, but nobody

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talked about him. 
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and I was like, you know, I mean
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was reviewing the medal. 
I was. 

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They gave me gloves to put on 
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bronze. 
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gold, silver and bronze. 
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And I texted Benson Kupruto and 
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today. 
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You should post the text. 
Did you post the text? 

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No, I have not. 
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kind of, I don't know, would you
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there? 
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because it's all about 
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And you can start your second 
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But So what else? 
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of sightseeing. 
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not stand up comedies. 
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I don't know. 
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has nothing to do with stand up 
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So we went to, so we went to, We
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where you could see the city of 
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really, really great. 
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Thursday, just headed home and 
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You know, Tokyo was pretty cold.
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I don't do well in cold weather,
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leggings and a fleece slide 
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So that was that for Friday. 
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I went to a meet up with the my 
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Training Academy, and I saw 
Trevor and Angie and talked with

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them for a little bit and they 
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you know, they stood in a circle
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you know, 'cause their coaches, 
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course and that kind of stuff. 
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it realized that I've forgotten 
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training on you can gels and 
actually really like them. 

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And so I had no gels. 
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I don't want to call them gels 

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items that could be a gel. 
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well as possible and yeah, that 
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So a little fiasco with the 
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Little bit, yeah. 
I was trying to not you know I I

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feel like obviously you like 
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to, but I was trying to mentally
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much right? 
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and you're trying to I I just 
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be honest. 
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trying to use nutrition more 
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When you're running, you forget 
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to get on to the race itself. 
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What about race morning? 
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OK, fine race morning. 
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Morning. 
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I got up way too early, like 
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The race didn't start till 9:00,
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this weird twilight jet lag zone
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longer. 
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stayed in Shinjuku was because I
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in line, which, you know, was 
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great place to stay, 'cause 
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out running and all that stuff. 
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have easily stayed somewhere 
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So keep that in mind when you 
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going to be jet lagged and 
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up early anyway. 
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hotel who had a breakfast, and 
he was very generous by letting 

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me attend that too. 
I actually got there so late 

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that he had already left, but I 
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OK. 
Interesting. 

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Yeah. 
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either. 
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coffee and you know, yada, yada 
yada. 

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Then I went to my friend Maria's
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She was staying at the Hilton 
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Were hotel shopping. 
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collecting gel donations from 
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donations and so I. 
Still woken up really early? 

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This is a long morning before 
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been to two hotels. 
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No, I didn't have breakfast with
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gate check and went through 
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It was very smooth and then I 
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starting area. 
We had texted in the morning to 

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try to find each other we were 
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and he had just gotten there the
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it's kind of a crazy story. 
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He was very not rested. 
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into our corrals after standing 
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about 30 minutes and chatting 
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And now we can talk about the 
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Now, you know, OK, 50 minutes 
into the race starts. 

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Yeah. 
Start of the race Go. 

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All right, so I start running. 
OK, that is quick. 

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So next first half of the race, 
Any memorable experiences? 

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Yeah. 
So the best part about it was as

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soon as the starting gun went 
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And there was what do you call 
those little things that flap 

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around paper? 
Yeah, confetti. 

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Confetti. 
Confetti was blowing all over 

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the place all of a sudden, Ryan,
the sun came out and had been 

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cold all the way before. 
I had, you know, throwaway 

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clothes. 
It was like a puffy jacket from 

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Goodwill that I had purchased 
and like some really warm pants 

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and I could just take it off. 
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the race. 
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pretty early on, maybe the first
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strenuous than I wanted to. 
Like my training. 

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I'd done a lot of miles a lot 
faster, and having that same 

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pace was a little bit harder. 
So I decided, you know what? 

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I'm in Tokyo. 
If I keep this pace up, it's 

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going to suck. 
I'm going to just give it, you 

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know, extra 5 to 7 seconds and 
just kind of cruise it. 

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So that decision was made and I 
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able to see this amazing race. 
So you're asking about memorable

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things that I saw. 
I I saw unfortunately quite a 

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few people fall within the first
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Any reason you think? 
Very crowded. 

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It was very, very crowded. 
Even though I was in Coral Sea. 

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And you know, people we're 
trying to get faster. 

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I think I was running an 8 
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wanted to run a 730 miles. 
But there there were no, there 

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was no option to even speed up. 
It was that crowded. 

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And so people would get caught 
in each other's feet or they 

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would, you know, make a turn and
just fall. 

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So that's kind of sad. 
Hopefully anyone got hurt Too 

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bad, but what about like did you
notice bathrooms or like 

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nutrition stations or things 
like that? 

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Oh yeah. 
So the official sponsor or, you 

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know, donator of the drinks was 
a brand called Pokhari Sweat. 

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Yeah, I've told you about that. 
And it's kind of like, it sounds

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kind of gross. 
It's like a sports drink, but 

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it's not as sweet as Gatorade. 
But then it kind of is. 

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I feel like it's almost like 
that stuff that you drink when 

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you're pregnant and they're 
doing your blood sugar test, but

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not as sweet. 
Like, it's subtle, but it's 

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definitely sweet. 
And unfortunately, no one can 

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read the label. 
I have no idea how many carbs or

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what's in that stuff. 
I like the taste. 

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But after I think 15 miles or 
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love it anymore. 
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you love after 15 miles? 
So they had that. 

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And then when you did have the 
nutrition tables, there were all

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kinds of things lined up. 
They were, I mean food and and a

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lot of different things. 
I didn't try any of it because 

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you know, I was already mixing. 
Worried about the runs? 

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Worried about the runs? 
Yes, but yeah, so So nutrition 

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stands were great. 
I ran into a couple of friends 

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and chatted a little bit and 
then also some local runners. 

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I was telling one Japanese lady 
about my lack of gels and she 

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gave me something and I I want 
to say it was spam, but I'm not 

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sure. 
And for those of you guys that 

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don't know me, I'm a vegetarian.
So that was it was interesting, 

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and I'd already, you know, 
halfway swallowed it. 

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So you enjoy your spam it? 
Was my meat day after 30 years. 

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And I I was like, oh, thank you,
is it? 

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People were really nice, right? 
So I didn't want to be rude and 

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not eat it, but then it was kind
of weird. 

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So what else? 
Awkward interaction. 

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So awkward. 
Yeah. 

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So that was the first part. 
Awkward interaction. 

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Awkward interactions, yeah. 
And organized nutrition stands. 

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Organized nutrition stands and 
Ryan, a ton of spectators. 

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I mean I would put that up there
with like New York and and they 

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are loud. 
I mean I've I think I've told 

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you before about like sometimes 
when I run a marathon I want to 

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take in the sights, sights, but 
sometimes you can't because it 

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feels almost like there's 5-10 
people deep of spectators. 

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You can't even see beyond the 
spectators if you're shorter. 

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And I feel like Tokyo was one of
those. 

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I was trying to take it all in, 
but I feel like I took in the 

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spectating a lot, which was 
great. 

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Another great thing that 
happened during this race was, 

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you know, there's a lot of out 
and backs, which normally I 

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don't like, but in this case 
there was the elite runners. 

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And that was kind of cool 
because there was one instance 

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where I could see, you know, 
Kipchogi had already dropped 

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back and it was that other lead 
pack with the other three 

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Kenyans in there and and that 
was really cool. 

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I don't like that because I'm 
like I'm always thinking they're

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probably almost done with the 
race and I feel like I'm and I'm

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just starting. 
I didn't think that until when I

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saw everything was in 
kilometers. 

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I didn't feel that way until I 
saw somebody coming back from 

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kilometer 38. 
And so, you know, there's only 

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four kilometers left and I was 
barely getting to 35. 

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So you start doing the math in 
your head of like, OK, I'm going

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to have to go 2 more miles out 
and then turn around and then 

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you're just kind of waiting for 
that. 

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So yeah. 
OK, so how are you feeling? 

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I was feeling good the whole 
time. 

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I was pretty consistent with the
pace, I think. 

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I mean, I always slow down a 
little bit, but it was very 

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consistent. 
I felt consistent. 

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I did want to go to the 
bathroom. 

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I didn't see porta potties, but 
I'm told there were pot porta 

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potties. 
Obviously I'm not the most 

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observant, but I did see quite a
few signs that said, you know, 

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there was an an arrow pointing 
to to the left or to the right 

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or whatever. 
And it said bathroom 500 meters,

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so you have to. 
Run out there. 

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Yeah. 
And 500 meters is, you know, 

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it's like, so 400 meters is a 
lap on the track. 

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Yeah. 
So that's a good quarter mile. 

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Yeah. 
So it's more than 1/4 mile to 

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the bathroom. 
And then you go and then you 

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come back. 
And so I didn't, I didn't want 

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to do that. 
So I just, I didn't have to go 

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bad enough. 
But I did see a lot of people 

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with pants that were moist 
between their legs, and I did 

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see a couple of actively peeing 
people running. 

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Not just sweating. 
I mean, maybe sweating, but you 

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know why? 
Why are you sweating? 

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From there, you probably had to 
go bathrooms that you were 

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thinking everyone had was going 
to the bathroom the time when 

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you were looking at it? 
I don't know about that, but 

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yeah, I'm. 
Just kidding. 

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So anything else for the 
second-half? 

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That was, you know, there were 
some iconic landmarks. 

449
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,640
I can't remember the names of 
them, but that was cool to see. 

450
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,720
I mean, it's it's a great 
course. 

451
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,720
It's a flat course, It's a fast 
course. 

452
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,000
The weather is perfect. 
It's kind of like the Chicago 

453
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,880
race or the Berlin race, just 
really flat courses that are 

454
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,680
fast. 
What? 

455
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,120
Was the winning time. 
So the winning time was a new 

456
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,440
course record by Benson Kipruto,
AT2O2 and some seconds. 

457
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,320
That's. 
Pretty. 

458
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560
That's pretty close to the world
record. 

459
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,600
Yeah, it's like a minute and a 
half away, but it's also like a 

460
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,640
minute and a half PR for Benson 
Kipruto. 

461
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,680
He had run his his, his, his 
best time just last year in 

462
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,320
Chicago, so he did really well. 
That's awesome. 

463
00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:14,360
So before we get into more of 
that, how about the finish? 

464
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:18,400
Do you want to talk about that? 
Yeah, the finish was great. 

465
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,720
It was. 
There were a couple turns and 

466
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,000
you're close to the Tokyo 
station where you finish. 

467
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040
There was a little bit of 
cobblestone and unfortunately I 

468
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,560
saw like two more people 
tripping and falling and you 

469
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,240
know you can, you know it feels 
bad when you hear that slam to 

470
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,800
the ground hard. 
I wanted to help the guy, but 

471
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,480
there was already, you know, 
spectators around helping him up

472
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,240
and it was like slow motion 
watching them trip. 

473
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,080
But besides that cobblestones, 
which, you know, they're pretty,

474
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,480
pretty well down on the ground, 
so it's not really where you 

475
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,040
trip. 
And then you run and there it 

476
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,480
is. 
You see it, you can give it a 

477
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,160
last Sprint and then you finish 
the finish was awesome. 

478
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:02,040
I ran into a friend from LA who 
was a German friend in LA, which

479
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,880
was really cool to, you know, 
know, a person at the finish. 

480
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,880
And then you kind of get herded 
along and you collect a medal, 

481
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:15,000
and then you also get a towel 
that's kind of like a kimono, 

482
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,360
like a, you know, pull over, 
which is my favorite item ever 

483
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,880
for something at the finish line
besides obviously the metal. 

484
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:27,360
And yeah, then you're supposed 
to return your chip, apparently.

485
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,880
Return your chip like your 
number chip. 

486
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,240
So you have a bib, and at the 
back of the bib is a little 

487
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,160
plastic thingy that you have to 
detach. 

488
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,360
And apparently there was a lot 
of people collecting them. 

489
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,880
And you forgot to observe that. 
Yes, I'm not observant. 

490
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,480
And then I tossed my chip and my
whole bib in the trash, so there

491
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,560
was no way of retrieving it. 
So you get in trouble, OK? 

492
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960
No, I don't. 
I mean, I don't think so. 

493
00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:01,920
I just learned that I have to, 
you know, read the race handbook

494
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,800
a little bit better and pay 
attention to that stuff and not 

495
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,680
try to wing everything in life. 
But yeah, I don't. 

496
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,960
I don't think anything will 
happen. 

497
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,800
You know, with the Berlin 
Marathon, they had the same 

498
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,840
thing, to have a chip that you 
actually, you know, put it onto 

499
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,920
your shoe. 
But that's obvious. 

500
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,320
And they also say at the end, 
you know, if you don't return 

501
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,160
your chip, you're going to be 
charged €5 or so. 

502
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,720
But with this one it it wasn't 
very, I don't know even just not

503
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,440
observant. 
Yeah, that that is true. 

504
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,360
But any final thoughts? 
Final thoughts? 

505
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,040
Well, Tokyo Marathon highly 
recommended. 

506
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,800
I loved it. 
And your skill bloody scale of 

507
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,120
one to 10. 
It was definitely A10 as as are 

508
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,200
all the races. 
It was absolutely amazing. 

509
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,520
When I go back next year I'd 
probably not get a bib and I 

510
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,960
also think it's really far away 
to travel there. 

511
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,080
It's expensive to to do this, so
I'd be OK with it being a one 

512
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,000
and done unless you know it was 
overlapping a family trip from 

513
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,080
us. 
And yeah, so we will have some 

514
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,840
tips that we're going to record 
with Tommy Runz who was also in 

515
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,000
Tokyo. 
And but you know, we're going to

516
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,120
bring that out closer I guess to
next Tokyo 2025, because what 

517
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:17,560
are you going to do with the 
tips now, right? 

518
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000
Might forget him. 
Yes, exactly. 

519
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,360
So now I guess this is the end 
of our race recap. 

520
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,920
I hope you guys liked it and 
we'll have another one soon, 

521
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,400
right Ryan? 
Rome. 

522
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Yes, so we're leaving for Rome. 
It'll be the marathon is in 10 

523
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,440
days or actually like 7-8 days, 
something like that. 

524
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,840
It's not this weekend, it's next
weekend. 

525
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,960
So another trip. 
Not that we're not sick of 

526
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,640
flying yet, but. 
This one we're going to go run 

527
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,760
with your brother who's never 
run a marathon before. 

528
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,360
We're going to be sightseeing a 
bit it. 

529
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,880
It it's definitely going to be 
interesting. 

530
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,120
We'll see. 
There'll be another race recap. 

531
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,080
There'll be another race recap 
and another Expo recap and all 

532
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,160
that stuff, but rest assured 
we'll have an episode for you 

533
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,320
next week as well. 
Obviously we've recorded one and

534
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,760
this one is going to try to hype
you up for the Boston Marathon. 

535
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,520
The Boston Marathon will be 
exactly in four weeks from next 

536
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,400
week's episode, so we're going 
to try to help you hype you up. 

537
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,000
And we're also going to have a 
conversation with a running 

538
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,040
coach, Ron Tap, who won second 
in Boston and has podiumed a 

539
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,320
bunch. 
At that race. 

540
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,320
He still trains elite runners 
and regular runners as well, so 

541
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,720
he's going to have a a whole 
bunch of informations on how you

542
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,800
can navigate through Boston and 
do the best you can. 

543
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,920
So that's it. 
Have a great week of running. 

544
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,440
Thanks for tuning in. 
For more information Ant 

545
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,400
marathon running news, please 
head to WWW dot marathon 

546
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Podcast.com. 

547
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,680
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