1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880
This podcast may not be for all 
listeners. 

2
00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:16,000
Listener discretion is advised. 
On a sweltering August afternoon

3
00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,480
in 1901, two English academics 
stepped into what can only be 

4
00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:27,120
described as a terror in time. 
What happened to Charlotte 

5
00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,920
Moberly and Eleanor Jordan at 
the Palace of Versailles would 

6
00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,480
haunt them for the rest of their
lives and challenge everything 

7
00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:39,920
we think we know about the 
fabric of reality. 

8
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,920
The past isn't as far away as 
you think. 

9
00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,560
Come with me into the shadows of
history where these two women 

10
00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,840
stumbled into what might be the 
most credible time slip ever 

11
00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,880
recorded. 
What they witnessed in the 

12
00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,880
gardens of Versailles would 
haunt them until their dying 

13
00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,040
days. 
Join me while I venture into 

14
00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,040
their unexplained realms of time
travel. 

15
00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:24,590
Charlotte Anne Moberly was born 
in Winchester, England on 

16
00:01:24,590 --> 00:01:30,000
September 16th, 1846. 
Born into the shadows of 

17
00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,840
Victorian propriety, Charlotte 
emerged from a world where 

18
00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,560
daughters of clergy were meant 
to be seen and not heard. 

19
00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,920
The 10th of 15 children born to 
George and Marianne Moberly, she

20
00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,320
grew up in the looming presence 
of the Winchester Cathedral, 

21
00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,600
where her father served as 
headmaster of Winchester College

22
00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,360
before ascending to become a 
Bishop of Salisbury. 

23
00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,160
The weight of religious 
expectations pressed down on the

24
00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,080
young Charlotte's shoulders like
a winter coat. 

25
00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,120
While her brothers received 
formal education, she and her 

26
00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,560
sisters were taught primarily at
home, a common fate for girls of

27
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,040
their era. 
But Charlotte harbored A fierce 

28
00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,720
intellect that refused to be 
caged by convention. 

29
00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:24,880
She devoured books in her 
father's extensive library, 

30
00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,320
often reading by candlelight 
long after the rest of the 

31
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,800
household surrendered to sleep. 
These early years shaped her 

32
00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,320
with an iron hand. 
The endless succession of 

33
00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,760
siblings meant she often felt 
lost in the crowd, a ghost child

34
00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,040
drifting through the corridors 
of their home. 

35
00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,240
Yet this very invisibility 
became her strength, allowing 

36
00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,640
her to observe, to think, to 
form the sharp mind that would 

37
00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:58,880
later lead her to become the 
first principal of Saint Hugh's 

38
00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:04,680
College in Oxford. 
But even as she rose to academic

39
00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,200
heights, those childhood years 
in the cathedral shadow never 

40
00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:14,240
released their grip. 
Perhaps they explained her later

41
00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,280
fascination with the 
supernatural. 

42
00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320
After all, she had spent her 
formative years in a place where

43
00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,240
the line between past and 
present, sacred and profane, was

44
00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:32,440
always treacherously thin. 
Born into Victorian shadows in 

45
00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,080
1863, Eleanor Jordan emerged as 
the eldest of 10 children 

46
00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,720
destined to bear the weight of 
expectations that came with 

47
00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,280
being first. 
The suffocating propriety of the

48
00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,480
era shaped her early years, as 
she navigated a world that 

49
00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:58,040
barely tolerated educated women.
In 1883 she dared to matriculate

50
00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,880
at Lady Margaret Hall in Oxford,
a time when women were still 

51
00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,800
viewed as intellectual 
curiosities rather than 

52
00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,640
scholars. 
The crushing pressure to prove 

53
00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,000
herself culminated in 1886, when
she became one of the first 

54
00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,839
women in modern history at 
Oxford to be examined like a 

55
00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,320
specimen under glass. 
She endured the unprecedented 

56
00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,080
scrutiny of being the first 
woman to undergo a Viva voce 

57
00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,760
examination. 
Her subsequent years were spent 

58
00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,320
in the stifling confines of 
various teaching positions. 

59
00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,800
She was a woman trying to carve 
out space in the suffocating 

60
00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:49,400
male dominion of academia. 
Fate has a peculiar way of 

61
00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,760
weaving dark threads together. 
In 19 ON Charlotte, Moberly was 

62
00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,240
the first principal of Saint 
Hugh's College and sought a vice

63
00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,120
principal. 
This would bring Eleanor 

64
00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,760
Georgene directly to Charlotte. 
Eleanor was a figure who would 

65
00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,680
become both her closest 
confidant and fellow witness to 

66
00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,080
something that defied 
explanation. 

67
00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,200
Their first meeting carried all 
the polite formality of 

68
00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,360
Victorian academia, but beneath 
the surface lurked in instant 

69
00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,840
recognition, a sense that each 
had found in the other. 

70
00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,440
A kindred spirit who understood 
what it meant to exist slightly 

71
00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,520
out of step with the ordinary 
world. 

72
00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,080
With her penetrating dark eyes 
and reputation for scholarly 

73
00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,760
brilliance, Eleanor Jordain 
matched Charlotte's intensity. 

74
00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,840
Both women had fought through a 
male dominated academic 

75
00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:54,480
landscape, carrying battle scars
that most couldn't comprehend. 

76
00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,320
Little did either suspect their 
professional partnership would 

77
00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:05,120
lead them to the impossible. 
That fateful August afternoon at

78
00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,720
Versailles still lie ahead, 
waiting like a spider in its 

79
00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400
web. 
Their shared experience there 

80
00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,440
would bind them together in a 
way that transcended mere 

81
00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,240
collegiate collaboration, 
forcing them to defend their 

82
00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,920
sanity against the world. 
Eager to dismiss them as 

83
00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,960
hysterical women, It seems that 
the universe had brought them 

84
00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,280
together for a purpose far 
stranger than running a woman's 

85
00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:32,840
college. 
Their meeting wasn't just the 

86
00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:36,520
beginning of a professional 
relationship, it was the first 

87
00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,200
step into a mystery that would 
consume them both until their 

88
00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,600
dying days. 
These two educated women decided

89
00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,640
to visit the Palace of 
Versailles on a perfectly 

90
00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,480
ordinary summer day. 
They had no reason to expect 

91
00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,240
anything unusual that day. 
They were simply tourists 

92
00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,680
looking to admire the grandeur 
of French history. 

93
00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:04,440
But history had other plans. 
As they wandered the grounds, 

94
00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,560
admiring its beauty, something 
shifted. 

95
00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,000
The two women realized they were
lost in the woods. 

96
00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,360
The air grew heavy and 
oppressive. 

97
00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,240
Both women would later describe 
an inexplicable sensation that 

98
00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,240
washed over them, as if the 
world had suddenly become 

99
00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,400
muffled and Gray. 
They found themselves in what 

100
00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,280
appeared to be a different 
version of Versailles, not the 

101
00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:35,120
tourist attraction of 1901, but 
something older, much older. 

102
00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,720
They encountered people in the 
18th century, clothing but not 

103
00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,160
costumes or reenactments. 
These figures moved with an 

104
00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,800
unsettling authenticity. 
Paying no attention to the two 

105
00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,160
women, a man directed them down 
a path. 

106
00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,600
They passed a woman in the 
gardens dressed in a light 

107
00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:02,600
colored skirt, white fichu and 
straw hat, the fashion of Marie 

108
00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,320
Antoinette's era. 
Later, they would become 

109
00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,120
convinced it was Marie 
Antoinette sitting near the 

110
00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,120
Petit Traynon. 
Their innocent afternoon stroll 

111
00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,640
through Versailles turned into 
something far more unsettling. 

112
00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,280
They crossed what seemed like an
ordinary bridge, a modest wooden

113
00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,920
structure spanning A burbling 
stream. 

114
00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,360
They passed a quaint circle 
building with its pillars and a 

115
00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,799
low wall, and then wandered 
through gardens hemmed in by 

116
00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:37,120
towering trees. 
When Charlotte and Eleanor 

117
00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,679
compared notes later, they 
realized something chilling. 

118
00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,600
They had experienced the same 
inexplicable events, but with 

119
00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,680
subtle, terrifying differences. 
What one saw clearly, the other 

120
00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:52,360
only saw partially. 
It was as if they had each 

121
00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,560
caught different glimpses 
through the same crack in time, 

122
00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,440
a crack that shouldn't exist. 
While their observations 

123
00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,320
differed, both remembered one 
item, a plow. 

124
00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,000
The women learned that Louis the
16th kept a plow at the Petit 

125
00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,400
Trianon, which was sold during 
the French Revolution. 

126
00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,640
The two women would go on to 
write a book about their 

127
00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,160
experience, published under 
pseudonyms entitled An 

128
00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,640
Adventure, but the publication 
would bring them nothing but 

129
00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,520
ridicule and professional 
skepticism. 

130
00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,240
The academic world wasn't ready 
to accept that the two of its 

131
00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,320
own had wandered into August 
10th, 1792. 

132
00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:43,360
When Charlotte returned in 19 O2
to the exact location, desperate

133
00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,520
to retrace their steps, she 
found nothing. 

134
00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,840
The bridge had vanished, the 
pavilion gone without a trace. 

135
00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,880
Even the wooded area where she 
had walked had seemingly been 

136
00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,040
swallowed by time itself. 
But here's where it gets truly 

137
00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,680
spine tingling. 
When they unearthed A yellowed 

138
00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:10,520
map from 1783, there they were. 
Every single landmark exactly 

139
00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,280
where the women had encountered 
them. 

140
00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,240
Somehow, they had walked through
a Versailles that hadn't existed

141
00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:21,960
for over a century. 
That cold day in 19 O2, the 

142
00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,240
woods of Versailles held another
secret for Charlotte. 

143
00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,840
Lost among the bare winter 
trees. 

144
00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:34,120
Once again, she caught something
in the wind, the ghostly echoes 

145
00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,560
of distant music. 
Light and repetitive, the melody

146
00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,720
drifted through the frozen air 
like a musical phantom that 

147
00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,080
refused to fade. 
Haunted by the mysterious tune, 

148
00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,520
she carefully transcribed 12 
bars from memory. 

149
00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,640
But when she shared these notes 
with a music expert in 1907, his

150
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,160
revelation sent shills down her 
spine. 

151
00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,240
The composition was no modern 
piece. 

152
00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:08,040
It belonged to the 1780s and its
style unmistakably anchored to 

153
00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,440
that distant era. 
Even more disturbing were the 

154
00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,240
conversations with the 
Versailles caretakers. 

155
00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,800
Their firm declarations deepen 
the mystery. 

156
00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:22,280
No bands were permitted in the 
park during winter's cold grip. 

157
00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,080
And even if they were the 
designated performance area live

158
00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:32,080
far beyond the earshot of the 
Petitreanon, the music Moberly 

159
00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,400
heard that day should have been 
impossible. 

160
00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,920
It somehow crossed the barrier 
of Time itself. 

161
00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,960
Those ancient melodies had found
her. 

162
00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,120
The proof came seven years 
later, buried in the yellowed 

163
00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,880
pages of Time. 
In 1908, Moberly and Jordan's 

164
00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,440
hands trembled as they turned 
the brittle pages of Madame 

165
00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,720
Ilove's journal. 
This wasn't any dressmaker's 

166
00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,160
journal. 
These were the private records 

167
00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,760
of Marie Antoinette's personal 
seamstress. 

168
00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,640
And therein, faded ink lie 
validation of their impossible 

169
00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,320
encounter details matched with 
chilling precision. 

170
00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,920
The summer of 1789, as 
revolutions simmered in the 

171
00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,880
streets of Paris, Madame Elauf 
had created just a handful of 

172
00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:25,880
garments for the doomed queen. 2
green silk bodices, large white 

173
00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,280
fee shoes draped carefully over 
her shoulders, and a skirt with 

174
00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,120
the faintest tinge of yellow. 
Charlotte's blood ran cold. 

175
00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,200
The outfit matched thread for 
thread for the spectral figure 

176
00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,520
they glimpsed in 1901. 
MO, really. 

177
00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,160
And Jordan never wavered from 
their story. 

178
00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,760
They went to their graves, 
insisting on the truth of what 

179
00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,120
they'd witnessed that August 
afternoon. 

180
00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,560
Some say they stumbled upon a 
residual haunting, a moment in 

181
00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:59,840
time replaying itself like a 
cosmic record stuck in a groove.

182
00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:06,240
Others suggest they experienced 
a time slip, a momentary overlap

183
00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,560
between then and now. 
The more scientifically minded 

184
00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:13,640
proposed mass hysteria or false 
memory. 

185
00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,400
But I I think we may have to 
leave this one in the 

186
00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:29,160
unexplained realms. 
So I must ask you, dear 

187
00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:34,040
listeners, what if time isn't 
the rigid forward March we 

188
00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,440
assume it to be? 
What if it's more like a piece 

189
00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,760
of fabric, and sometimes that 
fabric develops wrinkles or 

190
00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,200
folds? 
Places like where yesterday and 

191
00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,120
today brush against each other 
like silk on silk. 

192
00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,920
I wonder if the Versailles sits 
on a temporal thin spot, 

193
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,680
essentially a place or a moment 
where the physical and spiritual

194
00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:01,560
realms are thin. 
Though in my discussions with my

195
00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:05,920
exploratory friends, my show 
ambassadors, quick shout out to 

196
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,600
them. 
You 2 are my muses, gifted to me

197
00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,840
by the universe. 
Namaste, my friends. 

198
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,280
Anyway, we chatted not long ago 
about time travel simply being 

199
00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,320
remote viewing. 
It's always been kind of my 

200
00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,640
belief you have to let us know 
what you think. 

201
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,240
But as you drift off to sleep 
tonight, consider this one of 

202
00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,560
time isn't a river flowing in 
One Direction, but an ocean with

203
00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,720
the depths we've barely begun to
fathom. 

204
00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,600
Until next time, I'll leave you 
with a quote from Charlotte 

205
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,080
Moberly's writing. 
Some doors, once opened, can 

206
00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,680
never truly be closed.
