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Welcome to the Liberty Baptist 
Sermon Archives. 

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The message you're about to hear
was preached at Liberty Baptist 

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Church in Easton, MA. 
You can find out more about us 

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us up on Facebook. 
And now we hope that this 

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message from God's Word will be 
a blessing to you. 

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If you would turn into your next
page here this evening, which is

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verses to help and encourage the
soul winner. 

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We'll start here this evening 
with several verses from God's 

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Word just to be able to give you
a little bit of an overview, a 

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little bit of help here tonight.
This is not the Romans Rd. 

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We'll be looking at that more 
tomorrow night, but just some 

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verses in general to be able to 
help and encourage you. 

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As we talked about this issue of
soul winning, remember last 

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night we talked about the 
stakes, setting the pace. 

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Remember, a firefighter is in a 
situation where there's property

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on the line, but perhaps there 
are no people that are on the 

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line that they would react a 
certain way. 

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But if there are souls in that 
building that's burning that 

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need to be brought out, they're 
going to give their everything 

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because they're going to do what
they can to save those lives. 

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And so in the same way, 
understanding that there is a 

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lake of fire, understanding 
there's a heaven to be gained in

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the hell to be shunned, that it 
ought to be able to put a little

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pep in our step. 
It ought to give us some urgency

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when it comes to this issue of 
reaching the lost. 

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And so we spent a lot of time 
looking at that last night 

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because again, we can give you 
all kinds of tools tonight and 

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tomorrow we can talk about all 
these things, but if you're not 

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willing to be able to go out and
use them, it really is not going

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to be a lot of help at all. 
So we want to see why is it so 

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urgent that we do all that we 
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And so we'll start here with 
some of these verses. 

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Proverbs 1130 is really where we
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We talked about it last night. 
I made reference to it very 

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quickly, that the fruit of the 
righteous is a tree of life, and

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he that winneth souls is wise. 
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you can do is being able to give
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He that winneth souls is wise. 
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That's where we get the term 
sole winner. 

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Matthew 2819. 
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Sunday. 
Go ye therefore and teach all 

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nations, baptizing them in the 
name of the Father and of the 

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Son and the Holy Ghost. 
It's a reminder that this is the

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Great Commission. 
But a lot of times for churches,

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it's more of the great 
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It's the idea, hey, if you have 
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reach some people for Christ? 
And a lot of times that's why 

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churches are dying. 
It's because they're just 

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literally not going out and 
trying to find the people who 

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were out there. 
The lost are all around us. 

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You can find them wherever you 
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It's like shooting fish in a 
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They're literally right there. 
And again, not everyone is open 

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to being able to hear about the 
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Certainly not. 
But there's probably a whole lot

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more that are ready to hear 
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The chances that we take to be 
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And so this is the Great 
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We have been commissioned. 
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opportunity and has given us the
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reach the loss for Christ. 
This is what we do. 

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Daniel 12 verse three. 
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And they shall and they that be 
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brightness of the firmament, and
they that turn many to 

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righteousness as the stars 
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And not to try to twist the 
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it is interesting that but we 
call a lot of people stars today

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that are stars for doing, well, 
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Or sometimes they're stars for 
doing something infamous more 

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than anything by starring in a 
movie where they curse and they 

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drink and they corrals and do 
these types of things. 

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We call them a star because they
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long way or because they could 
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All of a sudden they're a *. 
But what is the star in God's 

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Well, it's the person who is 

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willing to go and share their 
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God's economy, if you will. 
These are the ones who are the 

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true stars. 
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have really impacted my life 
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And the ones that have really 
impacted me are not those people

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in Hollywood, not those people 
wearing uniforms or jerseys for 

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teams, but they are really just 
humble people that I've met in 

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the churches that I've been a 
part of, not been a part of many

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over the years. 
I've had really opportunity to 

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be in three churches, Westgate 
Baptist Church twice before 

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college and after college, 
Southwest Baptist Church for 

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four years while I was in 
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And then the years that I've 
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And I'll tell you, some of the 
people have impacted me the most

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have been humble soul winners, 
people who have taught me about 

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how to go and win other people 
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I think of Sam Gore, I've 
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back at Westgate Baptist Church 
and that he had Parkinson's 

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disease. 
It was difficult for him to walk

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and he would go from door to 
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able to tell people about Jesus 
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And when he stopped being able 
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Sam Gore praying when the church
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wanted to hear names. 
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different people that were going
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the Lord in prayer on behalf of 
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I'll tell you what, that's a 
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That's a real star more than 
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But why? 
Because these are people that 

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are doing things for eternity. 
And by the way, Sam Gore was 

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never a pastor. 
Sam Gore was never on a pastoral

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staff. 
He's not one of those people 

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that have been held up on a 
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But at the same time, he 
affected me as a 17 year old and

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18 year old who just gotten 
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And if he can go and share the 
gospel, well then why can't I go

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and share the gospel? 
And so these are the stars, if 

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you will, in God's economy. 
Romans 116 is ironic for me 

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because it was given to me upon 
my confirmation, the Lutheran 

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Church as my life first. 
So my Lutheran pastor, Doctor 

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James R Gilzo gave me Romans 
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didn't really understand it 
until after got saved and I it's

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amazing to me for I'm not 
ashamed of the gospel of Christ.

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For is the power of God unto 
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believeth to the Jew 1st and 
also to the Greece. 

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What should we not be? 
We should not be ashamed of the 

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gospel that which saved us. 
We should not then turn around 

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and be ashamed to be able to 
share it with other people. 

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Second Timothy 17 has really 
become for me that the true soul

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winners verse. 
It's the one that I really hold 

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on to that I'll remind myself of
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I have it written down in 
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For God had not given us the 
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of love and of sound mind. 
And I'll tell you, if you're 

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trying to win people to Christ, 
what more could you ask for than

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power and love and a sound mind?
What do we need? 

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We need the power of God when 
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somebody because it's really not
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And that's something that we 
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in this whole thing. 
Well, Pastor, I can't do it 

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again. 
The power we talked about on 

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Sunday, the omnipotent power of 
Jesus Christ, His Spirit will 

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help us because he has 
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So he will empower us to do that
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do. 
Of love. 

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There are some people we talked 
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They're unlovable in a lot of 
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them enough to die for them. 
Across and so we need to love 

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them as well even some of those 
who might be considered unsavory

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even some of those who are 
trying to go out of their way to

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maybe even offend us knowing 
that we're Christians we need to

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have. 
Love. 

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For them, the love of Jesus 
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You know, when I was a teenager,
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Before I loved. 
Debates. 

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I was in a debate team and we 
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really well. 
Me and Pastor David Corley, at 

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least he's now he's a pastor. 
You know, my best friend, I 

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loved it. 
Now I realize I don't love them 

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nearly as much as I did back 
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And one of the reasons why is 
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somebody about Jesus Christ, 
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It's not, hey, let me talk about
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I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm 
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It's really not about that. 
We're talking about a life 

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that's on the line, a soul 
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This isn't about just winning 
some trophy at some competition.

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This is about someone whose soul
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You know what I need A sound 
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Because while they're talking, 
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'S going Bing Bing Bing Bing 
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Thinking about what I'm going to
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they're about to say, and I 
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saying and what they're trying 
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so busy trying to think of the 
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them that I'm totally missing 
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to be doing in the 1st place. 
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A sound mind Second Timothy 17 
I'll tell you if you are one who

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marks in your Bible, just circle
that whole verse, underline it, 

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highlight it, whatever you need 
to do the Lord without giving us

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the spirit of fear. 
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sound mind. 
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about this, because I said I 
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the last thing I'll say about 
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If the Lord is not the one who 
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is? 
See, pretty simple, doesn't it? 

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It's Satan. 
Satan doesn't want us to open 

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her mouth. 
Satan doesn't want us to hand 

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out that track. 
Satan doesn't want us to win 

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people to Christ. 
And so if the Lord has not given

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us the spirit of fear, it's 
pretty simple to figure out 

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who's the one who gave it to us.
Why? 

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Because he wants you to be quiet
when it comes to the gospel. 

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First Corinthians 916, Paul 
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But I think there's application 
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For though I preach the gospel, 
I have nothing to glory of. 

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For necessity is laid, Yay. 
Woe is unto me if I preach not 

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the gospel. 
Paul says, I have a calling upon

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me, and don't thank me for what 
I'm doing. 

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I'm just doing that which I'm 
called to do. 

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Now do we have the calling of 
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No. 
Are we apostles? 

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No. 
Are we missionaries in the way 

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that Paul was? 
No, we are not. 

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But yet God has laid the calling
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people for Christ, and woe unto 
us if we preach not the gospel. 

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In that sense, we can take that.
For ourselves as well. 

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Psalm 126, verse six. 
He that goeth forth and weepeth,

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bearing precious seed, shall 
doubtless come again with 

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rejoicing, bringing his sheaves 
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What I love about that verse is 
it talks about the burden that 

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we're to have to be able to have
tears for the lost, to truly be 

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sorrowful for the sake of the 
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But it also gives us the idea of
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Of course, Jesus said to lift 
your eyes because the fields are

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white and a harvest. 
But what do you recognize and 

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realize about a harvest? 
It takes a long time between 

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planting and reaping. 
It takes a while. 

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I'm not saying that someone 
couldn't get saved the very 

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first time you presented the 
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I'm not saying that's not the 
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But I think all of us would say 
whether it was ourselves or our.

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Experiences sharing the gospel 
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It takes a while, it takes a 
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time of reaping has come. 
There's great rejoicing. 

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And so you. 
Stick with it, you stay at it 

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and little bits of the time you 
were able to share the gospel 

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with those who are lost. 
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was in my heart as a burning 
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was weary with forbearing and I 
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I wanted to be done. 
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I am done with the Israel. 
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doing. 
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Got to the. 
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you know what, actually, I got 
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I got to tell the people what 
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if I don't do that, which I need
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in the study that it's a 
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just like, man, if I could just 
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to do it because I just want, I 
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The Lord is. 
Working on me and with those 

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verses, and I know that the Lord
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as well, but certainly even more
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salvation. 
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Maybe you can write these down 
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Maybe this is something that you
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And again, I'm a big marker of 
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either side, one column on one 
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I love to be able to write notes
and different things like that 

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so I can remember later the 
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But these are. 
Verses you could just go in and 

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mark every single one of them 
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important it is to win souls to 
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help us as we win souls to 
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All right, let's get to the nuts
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because it says I'm on 
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What do I do now? 
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you before we get here. 
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these both tonight and tomorrow.
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ways that we commonly win people
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visitation. 
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over the years. 
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had visitation on a weekly 
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work obligations and things like
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myself, the family and maybe one
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Vince, a lot of times that he 
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couple years, just me and him by
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better for us to go monthly, 
have a Big Breakfast. 

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aren't the Dave. 
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you can find, we got them around
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holidays and the weather and 
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and do this corporately, to give
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to go and tell people about the 
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We'll have an open house or a 
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a few weeks. 
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opportunities for us. 
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Resurrection Sunday week to be 
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let people know that we have a 
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the Tuesday service. 
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Jesus died on a Friday, but at 
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I wouldn't argue with anybody 
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service because we found that 
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will come over here and we get 
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corporately go out. 
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we do that. 
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be going out on Saturday. 
I hope that you'll come on 

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Saturday. 
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But you come in, we have 
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Everybody knows what to do about
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Amen. 
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breakfast? 
There's there's cards and cards 

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laying in a table out here. 
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that there are to be able to 
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From there's one with just a 
bunch of cards from people have 

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visited over the last couple 
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can go out and you can reach 
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where people can just write 

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letters. 
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able to go out for whatever 
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They stay behind and write 
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them to people who've come in 
the past and just remind them 

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the Liberty Baptist Church is 
here. 

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We called all in outreach for 
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Everybody's got something to do.
Everybody has an ability. 

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can still come here. 
If you're able, you can sit 

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down, you can have some 
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It you can have a cup of coffee,
you can write some letters. 

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And it's amazing to me that 
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cards, notes out every time we 
do it. 

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And you say, pastor, what is the
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we're doing? 
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always know. 
I don't always know, because you

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would think if we go out on a 
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people just breaking down the 
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That's the way it is, right? 
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the door, it's probably because 
the frost heave at the door more

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than anything. 
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But no, honestly, there are 
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people will say, oh, yeah, I'm 
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Pastor, and nobody shows up. 
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things I love about New England 
because in the South, everybody 

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tells you they're going to come 
on Sunday. 

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Oh, bless their heart. 
I'm going to be there on Sunday.

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don't want to come. 
They'll just tell you, look, I 

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don't want to come. 
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appreciate your honesty and 
candor if nothing else. 

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come and they don't come. 
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That's really what it comes down
to, because we can't force 

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people to come to church. 
We can't force people to come to

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Jesus Christ. 
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the line, the fishermen can't 
control how many times he goes 

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out and fishes in the 1st place.
And what are we supposed to be 

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fishers of men, The Bible tells 
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And so we have to have the same 
mentality. 

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So you're going to have 
sometimes where we together as a

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church are going to come 
together and have a visitation 

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program where we have all these 
different things. 

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So the question on this side is 
what do we do in this case? 

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week or once a month for a 
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The real issue of salt winning 
is that it is not something 

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that's put on the calendar. 
It's just something you do with 

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your life. 
And so we have to ask ourselves 

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this question, how do we win 
people to Christ when we have 

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brief interactions with them? 
How do we win people to Christ 

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when we see someone on a regular
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library, at a doctor's office? 
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not going to win someone to 
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they're going to beep, beep, 
beep. 

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I mean, it's just not going to 
happen. 

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Why? 
Because they got a beep, beep, 

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beep. 
Keep getting that stuff across 

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the belt, right? 
You're not going to have the 

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time. 
But can you move them a little 

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bit closer to the understanding 
of who Jesus Christ is by the 

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way, that you handle yourself, 
maybe by handing them a track, 

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Those types of things. 
These are the things that we 

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want to talk about over the next
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Those times when we have made 
purposeful effort as a church to

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be able to come together. 
What do we do? 

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How do we do it on this 
organized visitation program, if

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you will? 
But then on the other side, and 

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we'll handle this more tomorrow 
night as well. 

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So what do we do on a day-to-day
basis with those people? 

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Do we come in contact with, even
if it's family or friends, it 

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doesn't have to be strangers. 
It's those people that we've 

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really been wanting to talk to 
about the Lord, but we just 

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don't know how to do it. 
So we'll be talking about both 

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of these things. 
But first we're going to talk 

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about visitation. 
What, what will we do on a 

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Saturday? 
Because a lot of people want to 

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be a part. 
They're just afraid to be a 

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part. 
And he said, well, are you 

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saying I'm afraid? 
Well, for a lot of us, yes. 

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That's really what it comes down
to. 

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Let's just call it what it is. 
And interestingly enough, I've 

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been doing this for a very long 
time. 

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And I will tell you that there's
still on a Saturday morning when

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I'm getting ready to get in the 
car and I got that first card. 

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I'm thinking, I don't know how 
they're going to respond. 

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And I'm the pastor. 
And sometimes that means they 

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could respond really well, or 
sometimes that could be they 

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respond really not well because 
they don't want the pastor 

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showing up at their house. 
And so even for me, there's this

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trepidation of what exactly is 
going to happen. 

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So I understand, don't think 
that I am above, I've reached a 

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spiritual plateau when it comes 
to talking about Jesus or 

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visiting people that all of a 
sudden that I'm just super 

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comfortable with it. 
And you probably are not. 

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Can I put it to you this way? 
We're all in the same boat 

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because again, Satan doesn't 
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it. 
Satan doesn't want you to be 

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able to do this. 
That's where we have to be able 

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to push past that initial fear 
that we have and say the Lord 

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has not given us the spirit of 
fear, but of power and of love 

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and of sound mind. 
So what are some principles that

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we use on visitation? 
Let me help you with this. 

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We go 2 by two. 
First of all, we don't send 

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anyone out by themselves on 
visitation. 

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That's not something that we do 
really. 

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If anyone ever goes out by 
themselves on visitation, it's 

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me. 
And the reason why is because 

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sometimes there's not enough 
pairs to be able to do so. 

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And I do feel like a pastor can 
go up to someones house by 

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himself and people are willing 
to answer. 

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But even then I have to be 
careful because if it's a woman 

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that I'm going to visit, I have 
to stand on the doorstep. 

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I don't go inside. 
I have to really kind of think 

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about those kind of things. 
But for the best, really going 2

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by 2 is the way to do it. 
And you see there it says, first

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of all, it's not required, but 
it is a biblical principle. 

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Do you think there's a reason 
that Jesus sent the disciples 

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out two by two? 
I think there's several reasons.

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Maybe. 
What would a reason that you 

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would think that Jesus And you 
just speak up. 

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The microphones will pick you 
up. 

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Don't worry, everybody's 
watching hundreds of people. 

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OK, I shouldn't have said that, 
all right, But what is the 

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reason you think Jesus would 
have sent out the disciples 2 by

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two? 
Moral support? 

450
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,640
That's a big one. 
That's a big one because if 

451
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,280
somebody is not happy you're 
there, at least you got your 

452
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,760
buddy with you, you know what 
I'm saying? 

453
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,680
That's a big, that's a big deal 
right there. 

454
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,280
It's an important thing for us 
to be able to go out to do that.

455
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,400
Now, would you say, John, that's
a big one. 

456
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,280
That's a big one as well. 
We'll talk about the silent 

457
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,480
partner in a minute. 
And the silent partner is the 

458
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,320
one that really is not taking 
the lead route, but is in prayer

459
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,160
the whole time, praying for the 
situation, praying for wisdom 

460
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,280
for the soul winner, praying 
that distractions are kept at 

461
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,760
Bay. 
That's a huge one as well. 

462
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,240
Were you going to say Dan? 
The work of the church is a 

463
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:45,960
group effort, right? 
It's. 

464
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,600
A group effort. 
Even in those situations, if you

465
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,400
don't have two by two at times, 
you report back at the church, 

466
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,280
the church, correct? 
Absolutely. 

467
00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:59,680
Yeah. 
And we can end up being a little

468
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,720
bit of a lone wolf, have lone 
wolf syndrome. 

469
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,080
And so it's good to be able to 
go out together, to rejoice 

470
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,320
together. 
Also, if someone gets saved, 

471
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,760
guess what? 
You can't take all the credit, 

472
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,120
by the way. 
We can't take any of the credit.

473
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,040
The credit goes to the Lord. 
But having someone else there is

474
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,440
just a reminder. 
Hey, it wasn't just me. 

475
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,600
That's a very good point as 
well. 

476
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,520
All these things are good. 
What would you say, Lisa? 

477
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,880
Safety, Safety Boy, I tell you, 
nowadays that's true. 

478
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,440
Even then you consider how 
people would have been to be 

479
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,600
able to have someone else with 
you is an important thing. 

480
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,240
And so that's what we do to be 
able to go and we always have 

481
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,320
two by two. 
Again, I'm not saying that that 

482
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:36,080
it has to be this way. 
There's no biblical command, but

483
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,680
we do see the principal and I do
think it's a wise principle for 

484
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,560
us to follow. 
We just have right here. 

485
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,840
First of all, I could set the 
person at home at ease when they

486
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,920
see two people there. 
Usually it would be a little, 

487
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,800
believe it or not, better than 
one person there. 

488
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,400
There have been times we've sent
three people to a door because 

489
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,480
we've had odd numbers. 
And you get to the point where 

490
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,920
the group starts getting that 
big and it looks like, you know,

491
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,000
a barbershop quartets coming to 
your house to sing. 

492
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,120
And it's it's not really 
something that you're going for.

493
00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:02,360
And so you do have to be careful
that the group is not too big. 

494
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,360
But at the same time, it could 
set them at ease. 

495
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:09,520
Who was on the inside, Fend off 
possible distractions I have 

496
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,200
dealt with before having a dog 
come. 

497
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,640
And this dog is just 
rambunctious, honestly, the 

498
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720
silent partner, that person, 
excuse me, we'll talk more about

499
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,560
that in a minute. 
Could play with the dog you say,

500
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,960
well, that's that's kind of dumb
No, it's not because if that dog

501
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,240
is barking the whole time you're
not getting anything across and 

502
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,680
so that dog can that person can 
talk to the dog that person can 

503
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,400
talk to the child maybe there's 
a child that's kind of there. 

504
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,640
And I think of a visit we had 
just recently from the back to 

505
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,920
school bash with a family that's
here right now and I could sense

506
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,760
as we were talking that my wife 
was really making the connection

507
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,360
with the family. 
I'm not saying that I wasn't, 

508
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,000
but I could just tell that she 
was kind of zeroing in on some 

509
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,880
of the needs and they were 
talking about special needs and 

510
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,400
those kind of things. 
And then the kid comes out and 

511
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,000
he is, he's excited. 
Like he's excited, we're there, 

512
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,200
he's excited, the pastor's 
there, the pastor's wife there, 

513
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,640
and he's full of energy. 
And so the next thing I know, 

514
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,480
I'm on the ground playing toys 
with him. 

515
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,000
Here's the pastor and I'm 
playing. 

516
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,120
You know why? 
Because somebody needs to talk 

517
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,280
to him about the Lord. 
And if one of us didn't take the

518
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,200
step back, then what was going 
to happen? 

519
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,000
Nobody was going to be talking 
about the Lord at all. 

520
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,720
And so there's a recognition 
that that is part of it as well.

521
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,880
And then again, can be in 
prayer, the silent partner and 

522
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,200
you probably had training in 
this before, John and and that 

523
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,040
your experiences before is that 
typically we'll look at this in 

524
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,120
a second. 
There is someone who takes the 

525
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:32,280
lead because if not, it's two 
people talking over one person. 

526
00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:35,080
That can be intimidating. 
I've also found that if I'm 

527
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,880
talking more primarily, but then
someone else starts talking as 

528
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,440
well, I could be going One 
Direction and that other person 

529
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,280
go the other direction and all 
of a sudden maybe the groundwork

530
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,800
that we're laying gets 
overturned because of the other 

531
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,840
person's random thought that 
comes in. 

532
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,320
And so it's always good to be 
able to have a lead even as you 

533
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,000
go 2 by two. 
Now ask yourself this, what kind

534
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,520
of visit are you making on 
visitation? 

535
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,760
We have all kinds of different 
visits that need to be made. 

536
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,360
All of them can be about Jesus 
Christ. 

537
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,560
All of them should be about 
Jesus Christ. 

538
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,160
But there are different kind of 
cards that you will find on the 

539
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,400
table. 
If you are making a visitation 

540
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,080
visit. 
You have to ask yourself this 

541
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,800
question, is this someone who 
you know has a testimony of 

542
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,280
salvation? 
Because on this table could be 

543
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,360
someone that is saved, but maybe
it's been out of church for a 

544
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,960
while. 
We do have benevolence visits, 

545
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,280
the type of visits where someone
is sick, someone has been laid 

546
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,000
up and they just need someone to
come by and just encourage them.

547
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,160
We have those kind of visits. 
But sometimes, especially those 

548
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,840
visits we have from the Back to 
School Bash. 

549
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,760
We have 40 some families that 
came to the Back to School Bash 

550
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,400
in August. 
We've already visited them all 

551
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,560
one time, but, or at least we've
attempted to visit them all one 

552
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,560
time, but the idea is we have no
assurance that these people are 

553
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,200
saved. 
So what are we gonna do? 

554
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:47,280
We're gonna go to them and talk 
to them about the church. 

555
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,520
But that really is a way because
for us to talk about the Lord. 

556
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,640
Because I wanna remind you, the 
visitation is not about Liberty 

557
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,320
Baptist Church recruitment. 
It is not about, hey, let's get 

558
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,400
a bigger church and let's just 
get some people to come over 

559
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,520
here. 
If we're going to do that, we 

560
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,240
might as well just join Amway 
because that's probably the best

561
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,800
thing that we can do. 
This is an Amway. 

562
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,440
You know what this is? 
If we're building anything, 

563
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,360
we're building the Kingdom and 
if the Lord sees fit to build 

564
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,640
Liberty Baptist Church at the 
same time, we thank the Lord for

565
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,320
that. 
But it's all about their soul. 

566
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,600
But we do talk to them about the
church and we don't apologize 

567
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,040
for that because we want them to
be able to come and hear the 

568
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,880
gospel on a regular basis and we
want them to be able to come 

569
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,200
here to do that. 
So you ask yourself, is this 

570
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,880
someone that I know has a 
testimony of salvation and take 

571
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,640
the card. 
Talk the card over with your 

572
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,680
soul winning partner. 
Don't just consider the card 

573
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,280
when you pull in the driveway. 
One of things that I love about 

574
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,360
Marsha, for instance, is not 
able to be here tonight as an 

575
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:38,760
appointment, but one of the 
things I love about her is that 

576
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,120
she'll get her cards and she'll 
ask me. 

577
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,000
Pastor, tell me about this one. 
Pastor, tell me about this one. 

578
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,320
She wants to know before she 
gets there a little bit more 

579
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,600
about that person. 
Because you imagine just walking

580
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,920
up and I try to put notes on the
cards about who you're going to 

581
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,280
visit. 
But Can you imagine? 

582
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,320
Just go in there and you have no
clue who they are. 

583
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,560
You've never seen them before. 
You don't know if they came to 

584
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,480
the church last month or 10 
years ago. 

585
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,160
Hey, I'm from Liberty Baptist 
Church. 

586
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560
Now if someones been here 10 
years ago, we still go visit 

587
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,640
those people. 
Sometimes I'll put cold call on 

588
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,400
there. 
And the reason why is because, 

589
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,200
well, it's, it's going to be 
cold possibly. 

590
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,480
But we've had people from cold 
calls who have said, you know 

591
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,840
what, you came at just the right
time. 

592
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,480
I've been going through some 
difficulty right now and, and 

593
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,760
the Lord, you know, I've been 
thinking about going back to 

594
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,440
church. 
So we got a name, we got an 

595
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,880
address. 
Until they tell us, don't come 

596
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,640
back. 
Guess what? 

597
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,080
We're going to keep coming 
because we want to at least be 

598
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,680
able as the spirit allows for us
to visit those people. 

599
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,720
Don't if you got a visitation 
card, don't just pull up in the 

600
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,680
driveway and say, all right, now
who's, what's their name? 

601
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,000
What are, what are we visit them
for? 

602
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,960
It's a little bit late because 
you're going to see as soon as 

603
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,560
you pull up in their driveway in
front of their house, they're 

604
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,160
already looking at you. 
They're wondering who you are. 

605
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,480
They're wondering why you're 
there. 

606
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080
This is a conversation you have 
way before and at times when I 

607
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,160
have neglected that, I'll pull 
over maybe a block away before 

608
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,440
and I'll have the conversation 
with my wife is usually who I 

609
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,640
visit with. 
But I visit with pretty much 

610
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,760
everyone here at some point or 
another and I have a 

611
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,480
conversation about that visit 
before that time takes place. 

612
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,760
Are you going door knocking? 
This is different procedure 

613
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,320
altogether. 
If you're just going door to 

614
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,560
door, a lot of times we do door 
hangers instead of actually 

615
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,520
knocking on doors. 
But I would love for us to get 

616
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000
to the place where some people, 
not everybody can do this, but 

617
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,960
where we actually go and knock 
on some doors. 

618
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,720
I think that's a blessing to be 
able to do. 

619
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,080
I know it's hard in 2026, 
there's so many people just 

620
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,800
won't open their door. 
Even 20 years ago, you'd have 

621
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,560
someone knock on your door 
almost every day. 

622
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,720
You'd have a salesman, you'd 
have a kid selling magazines. 

623
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,880
You have a kid, you know, girl 
selling Thin Mints, you know, 

624
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,080
those kind of things that would 
be happening all the time 

625
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,320
nowadays, unless it's Jehovah 
Witness or a Mormon, nobody's at

626
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,720
your door. 
And so a lot of people are very 

627
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,040
hesitant to open the door. 
And so that's been a little bit 

628
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,320
of a difficulty for us even in 
Easton from us door knocking the

629
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,600
first few years that we were 
here. 

630
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,680
But if you're just going and 
laying a door hanger, a lot of 

631
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,080
times we like doing that because
if nothing else, you see people 

632
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,480
in the outside in the warmer 
months, you're able to interact 

633
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,080
with them and talk with them. 
And we'll talk about more about 

634
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,720
how you would interact in those 
areas a little bit differently. 

635
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,960
And then the soul winners 
appearance, say, pastor, you're 

636
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,200
going to talk about how I'm 
dressing. 

637
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,800
Well, yes. 
And the only reason I'm going to

638
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,240
talk about it is this is because
when you are going up to 

639
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,560
someone's door, they're looking 
at you, they're staring at you, 

640
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,960
they're wondering who you are. 
You say, pastor, are you saying 

641
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,040
I have to wear a three piece 
suit to be able to go visit 

642
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,440
somebody? 
Oh, I sure don't wear a three 

643
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,120
piece suit. 
I go visit somebody because they

644
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:16,560
won't answer the door. 
If I do, they'll probably think 

645
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,480
I'm the funeral director trying 
to check them out for who knows 

646
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,080
what what. 
So no, we don't do that. 

647
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,360
But I say this dress to 
represent the Lord in your 

648
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,160
church. 
When you go out, you just make 

649
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,480
sure that you're wearing 
something that you know is 

650
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,760
clean. 
You're making sure you're 

651
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,400
wearing something that's pressed
at least or something that's not

652
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,640
too wrinkly. 
Because when we're going out, we

653
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,440
are literally ambassadors of 
Christ. 

654
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,040
And I'm not trying to tell you 
how you were supposed to look, 

655
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520
but I'm just saying that when 
you think about what you were 

656
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,200
doing, just consider that as 
you're going to represent the 

657
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,680
Lord. 
That's all I'm saying with that.

658
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,960
But do dress to be comfortable. 
If you're going out from doing 

659
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760
door hangers and those kind of 
things, make sure you're wearing

660
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,240
the right kind of shoes to be 
able to go out. 

661
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,520
I've seen more slip and falls 
over the years. 

662
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240
That's why even I'm hesitant to 
send people out on Saturday 

663
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,880
because we've had people that 
have said, oh, it's OK, the ice 

664
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,880
is melting or whatnot. 
And we had people slip and fall 

665
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,920
and it's been a bad thing. 
And so we do want to be careful,

666
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,360
but dress to be comfortable. 
And I put this for the men 

667
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,920
specifically, wear colorful 
clothing if at all possible. 

668
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,280
You know what, you ought not to 
wear a short sleeved dress white

669
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,600
shirt. 
Now, why would I say that? 

670
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,120
Because every single person, 
what was that? 

671
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:22,800
Sweat stains. 
That's it. 

672
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,000
Oh, that's true. 
Like, is it hot here? 

673
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,240
Is it just me, but Mormons, 
Jehovah Witnesses, I mean, 

674
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,000
that's that, that's the look 
right there. 

675
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,520
You know, Elder Rivero, come by 
on my bicycle to come see you. 

676
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,840
And so I, I, I don't wear a tie 
on visitation. 

677
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320
The reason I don't is I just try
to be more casual. 

678
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,480
Wear a polo shirt. 
A lot of times I wear a polo 

679
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,320
shirt with the church's name on 
it that I have because it just 

680
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,280
identifies me. 
But at the same time, you don't 

681
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,160
have that. 
That's OK, but you don't want to

682
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,160
look like a Mormon. 
You you just don't want to. 

683
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880
We don't want to be the the 
Jehovah Witnesses do wear some 

684
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,000
more colorful clothing at times,
but the Mormons are usually 

685
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,240
white shirt dress, you know, 
slacks, khakis, those kind of 

686
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,200
things. 
And so we avoid that all 

687
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,640
together. 
All right, just a little bit of 

688
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,880
overview. 
Why don't you go ahead and go to

689
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,600
the next page? 
Anybody any questions about that

690
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,000
before we move on? 
We have any questions just 

691
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,520
talking about the very basics of
other than AJ. 

692
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,040
All right, so we're not talking 
about witnessing to your cats. 

693
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:24,200
All right, What do you do when 
you go visit somebody at the 

694
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,360
door? 
You know, this has changed so 

695
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,000
much over the years. 
This has changed so much. 

696
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,600
And I'll be honest with you, 
I've had some very interesting 

697
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,000
stories about this. 
I'm going to go ahead and tell 

698
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,640
the story because Dan Dave wants
me to go ahead and tell the 

699
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,040
story. 
I could see it on his face. 

700
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,240
Dave has a very interesting way 
of visiting people, including 

701
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,960
visiting vets, because he could 
talk to them in a way he doesn't

702
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,120
talk to other people. 
We went to see a gentleman who's

703
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,320
been here several times before, 
went to go visit him about a 

704
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,360
year or so ago. 
And I remember knocking on the 

705
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,680
door. 
We drove probably about 30 

706
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,720
minutes to get there and we 
knocked on the door and he 

707
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,960
didn't answer. 
And I said, well, you know, I 

708
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,760
guess he's not here or whatever.
He says, Pastor, stop that, hold

709
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,120
on a second. 
And so he pulls out the phone 

710
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,920
and he calls this guy and he 
calls him by name. 

711
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,680
He says, hey, hey, are you home?
And he says, he says, I'm, I'm 

712
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,160
home. 
He goes open the door. 

713
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,680
The preacher's here. 
And the guy comes out and just 

714
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,160
starts talking to me. 
I'm thinking if I do that, 

715
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,960
somebody smacked me right across
the jaw. 

716
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,800
This guy does it because he's in
the military. 

717
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,200
And all of a sudden people are 
like, oh, yes, Sir, OK, 

718
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,680
whatever. 
You know, look, we all can't do 

719
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,120
that, you know what I'm saying? 
We got to have some kind of 

720
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,240
ability at the door. 
What do we do? 

721
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,520
Well, we make a good impression 
before the door opens. 

722
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,680
Before the door opens, recognize
that people were probably 

723
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,080
watching you come up the 
sidewalk. 

724
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,640
I'll tell you this, and I live 
in an apartment building, but if

725
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,360
I had someone coming up my 
driveway, you can be sure as 

726
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,520
soon as I saw them, I'm going to
be staring a hole right through 

727
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,800
them from behind a curtain or 
something because I want to know

728
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,200
who they are and what they're 
doing. 

729
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560
And so just recognize that as 
soon as you walk on somebody's 

730
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,960
property that there's probably 
somebody watching you the minute

731
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,240
you're on their property. 
Be constantly aware of that. 

732
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880
And this is really the big game 
changer right here. 

733
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Understand the reality of 
doorbell cameras today. 

734
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,000
That's the game changer. 
Going up and doing door hangers.

735
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320
It's not unusual for me to go up
to see a camera. 

736
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,160
I'll put a door hanger there and
I'll look at the camera and I'll

737
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,040
wave, I'll give a thumbs up, 
something like that to let them 

738
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,520
know I'm non threatening. 
But there have been times I have

739
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880
been walking up to put a door 
hanger up and I'll hear who is 

740
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,840
this? 
They've already patched in 

741
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,920
through their phones and are 
talking to me through the 

742
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,240
doorbell before it. 
It is weird, let me tell you, 

743
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,520
but I would say probably about 
one out of every 5 or 6 houses 

744
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,320
in Easton will have a Ring 
doorbell or some kind of 

745
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,440
equivalent. 
And so you have to be aware of 

746
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,240
that, that even if somebody's 
not watching you go up, there's 

747
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,680
probably video evidence of you 
walking up to their door that 

748
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,080
they're going to look at. 
And so you want to make sure 

749
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,720
that you are handling yourself 
well. 

750
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,840
Another thing, don't walk across
the lawn. 

751
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,960
Never walk across somebody's 
lawn. 

752
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,640
Make sure you're using their 
sidewalk. 

753
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,160
Make sure you're using their 
driveway. 

754
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,400
You really don't want to do 
something to be offensive. 

755
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,000
You say, well, that grass 
doesn't look like they've cut it

756
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
for about 3 months. 
Well, listen, they probably 

757
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,360
don't care about it until you 
walk across it. 

758
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,480
And now all of a sudden they 
care about it again. 

759
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,160
We're trying to find reasons to 
not be offensive. 

760
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,840
Why? 
Because the gospel is already 

761
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,400
going to offend people. 
And if somebody's offended, I 

762
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,560
want them to be offended because
we gave them the truth and the 

763
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,160
right spirit, not because I 
walked across their lawn and 

764
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,760
they're already mad because I 
got there. 

765
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
That's not what I want. 
If look, if they're upset at the

766
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,280
gospel, that's on them. 
But if they're upset because I 

767
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080
did not respect their property 
at the beginning, then that's 

768
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,600
something. 
I'll say this as well. 

769
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,560
If you get to a house and 
there's a thing that says no 

770
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,840
soliciting there, we typically 
don't knock on those doors. 

771
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,720
If you have a visit and it says 
no soliciting, go back to your 

772
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,000
car, give them a call first, 
shoot them a text. 

773
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
The reason why is if you say, 
you say, well, we're not 

774
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,000
soliciting anything and we're 
not soliciting. 

775
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,440
The the Supreme Court has been 
clear over the years that we are

776
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,240
not soliciting in the 
traditional sense of trying to 

777
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640
sell Amway or Girl Scout 
cookies. 

778
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,240
I'm not the Avon lady. 
OK, so this is not who we are. 

779
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,000
But at the same time, if it says
no soliciting and someone knocks

780
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,440
on the door, you think you're 
going to be happier there? 

781
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Nope, probably not. 
The best thing you could do is 

782
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,440
leave a track there and then 
move on or leave a track, go out

783
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,360
to the car. 
I was making a visit. 

784
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,720
You know, we're from Liberty 
Baptist Church. 

785
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,160
We saw you visit a couple weeks 
ago. 

786
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,680
We just wanted to talk to you. 
So there's no soliciting sign. 

787
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Is it OK if we come see you? 
That's what I would do in those 

788
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,040
kind of situations. 
A smile at the door again. 

789
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040
They'll probably be looking at 
you through the peephole or 

790
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,560
camera. 
Don't just stand there doing 

791
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,120
this, Frank. 
I hope they don't answer the 

792
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,080
door. 
I hope they don't answer the 

793
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,000
door. 
I hope they don't answer the 

794
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,240
door. 
And don't tell me you don't do 

795
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,480
that, because I've done that, 
too. 

796
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,040
All right? 
You're not going to. 

797
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,920
I hope they don't answer the 
door. 

798
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,760
I hope they don't answer the 
door. 

799
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,480
Like that's going to wear on 
your face. 

800
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,520
OK. 
Be pleasant there. 

801
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,640
When you're at the door, keep 
the conversation between you and

802
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,160
your partner to a minimum. 
I'll be honest with you, I've 

803
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,720
been with brother Vince for a 
very long time. 

804
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,360
We have a good rapport with one 
another. 

805
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,080
We talk with one another, and 
it's very easy at the door for 

806
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,719
us. 
Just continue the conversation 

807
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,239
that we had in the car all the 
way up the driveway, all the way

808
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,600
up the door. 
We knocked the door. 

809
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,800
We're still talking about. 
Yeah. 

810
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,280
You know, the veal parmesan over
at AJ's Grill is really good, 

811
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,960
you know, and he's like, yeah, 
no, I don't think so. 

812
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,639
I think that's trash. 
You know, And I'd say, and we're

813
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,320
talking, then they open the door
like, oh, hey, Liberty Baptist 

814
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,239
Church, we're here. 
Just kind of keep that to a 

815
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,320
minimum and understand that 
you're focused on what you're 

816
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,760
trying to do in that moment and 
decide before the door opens, 

817
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,800
who's talking. 
You need to know before you get 

818
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,400
to the door who is the one that 
is going to be the primary 

819
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,120
speaker. 
Of course, you both want to 

820
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,000
speak in the sense that you 
don't want the other person to 

821
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,760
think that you can't speak or 
not able to speak. 

822
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,080
But the one that's going to be 
the primary, I've always done 

823
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,080
it, either you take turns one 
between the other, or if you're 

824
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,800
with somebody who's new or 
somebody's not done it before, 

825
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,960
then you just tell them, well, 
you'll be the silent partner 

826
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,280
today. 
Why don't you pray and you'll 

827
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,840
observe and let the other person
do that. 

828
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,240
That's really what you can do. 
Either of those. 

829
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,920
Any questions about any of 
those, Any comments, maybe a 

830
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000
situation that you've had 
before, Anthony? 

831
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,680
Another thing is when you knock 
on the door, keep looking at the

832
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,640
door. 
Don't turn around, look at the 

833
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,760
yard. 
Don't. 

834
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,240
Because then they open the door 
and he's not, you're not facing 

835
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,120
them anymore. 
It's like, oh, you didn't even 

836
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:19,600
care. 
Yeah. 

837
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,640
Yeah. 
We're looking at the door, wait 

838
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,400
for them to come out. 
One of the things I love doing 

839
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,320
is looking at that peephole 
because I love when the peephole

840
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,560
goes dark. 
I know they're looking at me and

841
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,280
then it goes light again and 
they don't answer. 

842
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,520
It's like, I know you're home, 
man. 

843
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,120
OK, so, and I'll add this as 
well, I understand there's some 

844
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,280
people who are uncomfortable. 
I'm just showing up to somebody 

845
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,960
house. 
What if they're mad? 

846
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,760
What if they get angry? 
I just show up. 

847
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,080
Should I, should I call first? 
Shouldn't I text them first? 

848
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,400
Here's what I do, and this is 
what I encourage you to do. 

849
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,600
This mindset is helpful. 
These are people that have 

850
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,440
already come to Liberty Baptist 
Church. 

851
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,960
We're not just going through a 
phone book, not that we can find

852
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,920
one, but we're not just going 
through a phone book and say, 

853
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,880
hey, who can we go visit today 
and just randomly visit people. 

854
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,360
The people that we give you 
visits for here are people that 

855
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,520
come to Liberty Baptist Church 
before they've given us their 

856
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,800
name. 
They give their address, they 

857
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,440
give us their phone number. 
If they didn't give it to us, we

858
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,560
wouldn't be able to go see them.
So they've already said in 

859
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,680
essence, you know, we don't mind
you coming at some point. 

860
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120
But in your mind, I've said 
people, people told me, but a 

861
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,320
pastor, they might be offended. 
They won't it. 

862
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,960
Here's the thing, just go to the
door, knock. 

863
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,720
If they don't answer, then you 
don't be offended about it. 

864
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,640
Don't worry about it. 
We'll go back another time. 

865
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,720
It's not a big deal. 
Maybe you caught them. 

866
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000
They just woke up, they had a 
long night shift. 

867
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,040
They know they're home, but 
they're not going to answer 

868
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,760
because they just got up. 
I get that we, I, I barged into 

869
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,200
your territory. 
I get that. 

870
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,320
I'm not going to be offended by 
it. 

871
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,080
Maybe it's a bad day. 
Maybe they're not feeling well. 

872
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,200
Maybe they just don't feel like 
answering the door. 

873
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,440
They don't know who I am. 
That's OK. 

874
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Don't be, don't you be offended 
by that. 

875
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,720
That's the way I handle is like,
look, if you answer or you don't

876
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:55,560
answer, I'm not offended. 
I'm just, I'm just happened to 

877
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,720
be in the area want to come see 
you and we leave it at that. 

878
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,920
And so that's a way that I have.
But yeah, keeping your face 

879
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,120
forward is, is definitely a good
thing because you don't want to 

880
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,880
be turning around. 
Go. 

881
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,040
Well, look at that. 
Yeah, look at those. 

882
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Look at those. 
Look at those petunias over 

883
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,360
there. 
They turn around. 

884
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,160
They're standing there one foot 
away from you, just staring at 

885
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,760
you. 
So be aware of your surroundings

886
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,760
because safety is a key 
nowadays. 

887
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,840
It's a it's a big deal. 
I guess it always has been, but 

888
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,920
even more so now. 
You need to be aware of your 

889
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160
surroundings. 
What to do when the door opens 

890
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,720
again? 
Immediately identify yourself 

891
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,120
and where you are from. 
You don't want them to guess who

892
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,600
you are, you know, Are you 
selling solar panels? 

893
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,360
You know who Who are you? 
Oh wait, I know that guy, but so

894
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,720
are you are you selling solar 
panels? 

895
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:44,360
Are you are you with the the Boy
Scouts of America? 

896
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Are you from doing a fundraiser?
Your kid is over at the local 

897
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,280
elementary school. 
Hey from Liberty Baptist Church.

898
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,280
My name is Adam. 
This is my wife Diane. 

899
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,360
You know we're from Liberty and 
we want to come by and see you 

900
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,120
today. 
Honestly, if soon as if this is 

901
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,880
something that you have met 
through a visit here, they've 

902
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,640
been here before, there's 
immediately going to be a 

903
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,920
connection. 
I'm not saying it's always going

904
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,200
to go well, it usually does at 
least, you know, for the most 

905
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,680
part, but you got to identify 
yourself or who you are. 

906
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,840
And that's why I loved having 
church polo shirts. 

907
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000
We really should probably do 
that again. 

908
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,360
Dave and I were working on that 
and then I kind of dropped the 

909
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,240
ball on that. 
But it's nice to be able to go 

910
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,680
to somebody's house and have 
that right on your chest to be 

911
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,960
able to identify you're from 
Liberty Baptist Church and not 

912
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,680
from Verizon or not from Bill 
Pay Company or Bill Collection 

913
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,640
company. 
You're not the repo man or 

914
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,280
anything like that. 
Let them know immediately why 

915
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,840
you're there. 
We're in the area inviting 

916
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,960
people to church. 
That's true. 

917
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200
Maybe if you're just doing door 
hangers, you're going from door 

918
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,040
to door. 
Somebody's out in the garden, 

919
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,560
they're working. 
Don't if we're doing door 

920
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,600
hangers and those kind of things
and you're trying to, if 

921
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,000
someones in their garden, don't 
just walk past them and go to 

922
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,280
the door and then walk away. 
Okay, That is the opposite of 

923
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,800
you want to do. 
In fact, we're praying for those

924
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,800
people to be out. 
That's why I love doing that 

925
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,200
outdoors once it's warmer, 
because people are outside the 

926
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,680
gardens. 
People are outside doing 

927
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,000
different things. 
Don't say why. 

928
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,120
I really don't want to interrupt
you, you know, so I'm not going 

929
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,680
to, I'm just going to leave 
something on the door and walk 

930
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,920
away. 
They're going to think you're a 

931
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,480
creep. 
All right, Don't do that. 

932
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,240
Say hey, hey, I'm I'm sorry to 
interrupt you. 

933
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,400
Being a garden's beautiful. 
You're doing a great job here. 

934
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,040
But you know, I'm, I'm from 
Liberty Baptist Church and we're

935
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,240
just inviting folks to church in
the area today. 

936
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,600
I'll just wonder if you have a 
church that you go to, you'll be

937
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,760
able to strike up a conversation
just from that. 

938
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,440
These are things that you could 
do. 

939
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,720
I we're in the area inviting 
people to church. 

940
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,760
You could say, hey, we, you came
to visit our back to school bash

941
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,880
and we just want to come visit 
and see how your family's doing.

942
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,080
Want to see if there's anything 
we could pray for you all about.

943
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,880
That's a wonderful thing to be. 
You know, a lot of people can be

944
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,880
offended about a lot of things, 
but when you tell someone you're

945
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,880
going to pray for them, all of a
sudden the defenses go down and,

946
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,400
and, and I want to be careful 
how I say this. 

947
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,800
This is not a trick like let's 
let's ask them. 

948
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,280
About praying for them so we 
could. 

949
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Well, if you say that, you 
really need to pray for them. 

950
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,320
Right then and there on the 
doorstep. 

951
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,800
But a great way to be able to 
talk to people about spiritual 

952
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,880
things. 
Hey, we, we, we noticed you came

953
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,520
to the back to school back 
bashed in August. 

954
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,360
You know, it's been a few months
since the beginning of the year.

955
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,320
Our church is stopping by. 
We want to see if there's 

956
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,720
something we can pray for you 
about today. 

957
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,760
And of course they might say, 
well, you know, I have, I have 

958
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,560
someone who's very sick, my 
grandmother's and not in good 

959
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,840
shape. 
Well, what's her name? 

960
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,160
If do you mind if we could pray 
for her right now? 

961
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,040
We would like to do that. 
And you can do that. 

962
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,080
And then as the defenses have 
gone down and you show that 

963
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,200
you've cared about them, you 
could say there's one other 

964
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,440
thing I mentioned because really
the greatest thing that anyone 

965
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,400
could really have is the gift of
salvation. 

966
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,880
You can start by that or just 
ask them, you know, while we're 

967
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,040
here, you know, I would love to 
be able to talk to you about 

968
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,280
Jesus And if you were certain 
you're going to heaven someday, 

969
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,000
these are the ways that you can 
actually open up a conversation.

970
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,960
A lot of times people don't want
to make the ask because they 

971
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,840
feel like they can say, hi, I'm 
from Liberty Baptist Church. 

972
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,320
Are you going to heaven someday?
You start talking to people like

973
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,920
that, they're thinking, are you 
going to send me there? 

974
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,160
Why are you, Why are you asking 
me this question? 

975
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,720
You know something I don't know.
And so these are things you 

976
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,680
could say, hey, you visited 
church last Sunday. 

977
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,240
We really try to make sure that 
everyone who visits who gives us

978
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,000
a card. 
And a lot of times we don't get 

979
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,960
a card back from people. 
But if someone gives us a card, 

980
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,960
the next time we have 
visitation, we want to go see 

981
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,920
them and just tell them, hey, 
we're glad you visited. 

982
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Do you have any questions? 
And of course, the real issue we

983
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,320
want to get to is do they know 
Jesus Christ their Savior? 

984
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,800
Because again, we're not just 
the welcome wagon going by and 

985
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,360
saying, hey, isn't liberty 
great? 

986
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,280
And you like liberty? 
We like liberty. 

987
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,960
OK, well, see you at Liberty 
sometime. 

988
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Well, we've completely missed 
the boat of what we're trying to

989
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,640
do again. 
Do we want them to come back? 

990
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,840
Absolutely. 
We want to come back. 

991
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:39,520
But they could come here for 20 
years. 

992
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,480
They don't accept the gospel. 
They're no better off. 

993
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,040
And so the real issue is that 
they need to understand the 

994
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,320
Gospel. 
Invite them back to church. 

995
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,000
This is a great question to ask 
people. 

996
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,960
Do you go to church anywhere? 
Do you go to church anywhere? 

997
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,280
It's a great question to ask 
because you will find that 

998
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,960
people will immediately answer 
in a variety of different ways. 

999
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,960
They'll tell you why I'm a 
Catholic. 

1000
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
I'm a Catholic. 
That doesn't answer the 

1001
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,720
question. 
They'll say I'm a Jew. 

1002
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,360
Now, remember how I answered 
that a few weeks ago? 

1003
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,840
Somebody says they're a Jew. 
You say, oh, you're 1 of God's 

1004
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,600
chosen people. 
Our church loves the Jewish 

1005
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,400
people. 
And all of a sudden, once their 

1006
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,920
heart, you know, starts beating 
again because they're so 

1007
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,960
surprised that you would say 
something like that, you might 

1008
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,440
be able to have a conversation 
with them. 

1009
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,160
But a lot of times people will 
say, oh, yeah, I go to church 

1010
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,000
Ohio. 
Which? 

1011
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,320
Which church do you go to? 
It's that one over. 

1012
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,080
It's over. 
I'm 44. 

1013
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,640
No, it should be maybe a one O 
6. 

1014
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,600
It's amazing to me. 
People will tell you they go to 

1015
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,200
church and they couldn't even 
tell you what the name of the 

1016
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,280
church is. 
But I've met people like that so

1017
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,800
many times. 
You go to Liberty, like what's 

1018
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,120
the name of the pastor? 
I don't remember. 

1019
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,000
I've been going for six months. 
I don't remember his name. 

1020
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,680
You know, Revivio, I don't know 
something like that, but you 

1021
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,560
say, hey, do you go to church 
anyway? 

1022
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,000
That's a very non threatening 
question, honestly, to ask you 

1023
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,080
go to church anywhere. 
You know, they know you go to 

1024
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,320
church, you go to church 
anywhere and you know they'll 

1025
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,720
answer that a host different 
ways and you can respond 

1026
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,120
accordingly. 
Hey, we're not trying to take 

1027
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,680
you from your church. 
I say that to people sometimes 

1028
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,760
and we're really not trying to 
steal people from churches. 

1029
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,160
If they're going to a good Bible
preaching church, I'm not. 

1030
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,480
I don't want them to come here 
just because of that. 

1031
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,280
Really. 
I want people to know Jesus 

1032
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,680
Christ their savior. 
Now, if someone is going to 

1033
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,840
some, you know, Pagan church or 
something like that, I guess you

1034
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,400
could say I do want them to 
steal them from the church 

1035
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,120
because we want them to get 
saved. 

1036
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,440
Amen. 
But so, so be honest about it. 

1037
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,640
But, but you could say we're not
trying to steal you from your 

1038
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,960
church or take you from your 
church. 

1039
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,200
We love to have you visit our 
church this Sunday. 

1040
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,520
If possible, strike up a 
conversation while you're 

1041
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,560
talking to them. 
What I try to do is I'm walking 

1042
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,560
up the I'm not very observant 
about a lot of things. 

1043
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,440
There have been several guys 
here who have shaved a beard off

1044
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,920
and I didn't notice like until 
two months later or changed a 

1045
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,280
haircut and I didn't realize it 
till a couple months later. 

1046
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,600
That's just the way I am. 
But I would tell you, I zero in 

1047
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,960
when I'm making a visit. 
I want to know the cars that are

1048
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,560
there. 
I want to know what they're 

1049
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,520
driving. 
I want to know what's on the the

1050
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,440
porch that they have, if I'm 
able to go in the house and make

1051
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,160
a visit. 
I'm kind of looking around now. 

1052
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,600
I'm not trying to be a Snoop. 
I'm not Colombo or anything like

1053
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,360
that. 
But the idea is I do find things

1054
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,280
to make conversation and listen.
Sometimes you'll swing and 

1055
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,800
sometimes you'll miss. 
It's OK. 

1056
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,320
I remember going into a visit 
several months ago. 

1057
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,880
It was actually the same visit I
was talking to you about a 

1058
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,240
little bit earlier with the 
child and I saw one of the cars 

1059
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,200
had a veteran plate on it. 
And so I thought, here's a great

1060
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,760
point of conversation right 
here. 

1061
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,840
And so the gentleman was in 
there and I said to him and part

1062
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,400
of conversation I said, I saw 
you're a veteran. 

1063
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,800
I just want to thank you for 
your service. 

1064
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,800
And he goes, I'm not a veteran. 
And I said, well, I saw the 

1065
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,600
veteran and, and, and, and the 
woman there, she says, well, I'm

1066
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,760
a veteran. 
And I was like, Oh, well, I 

1067
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,480
guess I just assumed the man was
a veteran. 

1068
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:57,200
So thank you for your service. 
I was like, wow, I felt about 

1069
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,960
this big. 
I really did. 

1070
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,440
But I would tell you, and I say 
this to say, Pastor, this is not

1071
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,600
a good illustration to tell us 
about why we should be more 

1072
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,160
personal people. 
When you work with people, you 

1073
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,640
can either just clam up because 
you might make a mistake, or you

1074
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,440
can just do your best and people
will appreciate you. 

1075
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,320
Do your best. 
There are times I get people's 

1076
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,360
names wrong because I'm trying 
to remember their name. 

1077
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:27,840
So I could just say, hey man, 
hey buddy, hey brother, buddy. 

1078
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,600
But you know, you can do that. 
That's the cover for everything 

1079
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,160
is hey buddy, how you doing? 
Or you can swing and you can 

1080
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,600
miss and you can make a joke 
about it. 

1081
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,840
You can laugh about it and then 
hopefully the next time you do 

1082
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,000
get. 
Now, if you just keep swinging 3

1083
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,800
or 4 times in a row and missing 
like you got to, you got to get 

1084
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,480
a better system. 
But I think a lot of people are 

1085
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,320
afraid to make the mistake in 
being conversational with people

1086
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,200
so they don't make conversation.
But you're better off just 

1087
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,360
trying your best. 
You know what's funny about that

1088
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,160
family? 
That we still I've laughed about

1089
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,520
that with them several times 
since. 

1090
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,520
And honestly, talk about 
observance. 

1091
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,600
As I left, I looked at the 
license plate again and it had a

1092
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,400
pink frame around it, and so I 
probably should have noticed 

1093
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,880
that pink frame probably doesn't
belong to him and it probably 

1094
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,720
belongs to her being a veteran. 
But I swung and I missed. 

1095
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:17,560
But you know what? 
I still showed that I cared and 

1096
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,480
I tried. 
And that's what you need to do 

1097
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,320
as well. 
Don't let your fear of not being

1098
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,880
able to make a connection or 
doing something wrong stop you 

1099
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,960
from trying to make that 
connection Now. 

1100
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,960
If possible, transition to 
talking about salvation. 

1101
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,160
You'll be able to tell how the 
conversation is going fairly 

1102
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,160
quickly. 
I've been at people's doors 

1103
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,560
before and the door is closing 
as I'm talking to them, and 

1104
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,600
unless I put my foot in the 
door, that door is going to 

1105
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,720
close on me. 
I can tell pretty certainly that

1106
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:48,800
I'm not going to be able to make
a gospel presentation there. 

1107
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,000
In fact, I would be better not 
to in the sense that maybe if I 

1108
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,600
can give them a track or 
something to hold on to, but if 

1109
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,240
I try not to handle myself like 
a fool there, that the next 

1110
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:02,320
person who does talk to about 
Jesus will have an opportunity 

1111
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000
as long as I don't make it 
harder for that next one to come

1112
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,520
by. 
Again, I'm not talking about 

1113
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,200
being not being emphatic. 
I think it's important that 

1114
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,680
we're passionate about what 
we're in, but we also need to 

1115
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,680
understand that, you know, some 
plant, some water, but God gives

1116
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,880
the increase. 
There's many people along that 

1117
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,880
journey, Lord willing, who'll be
able to impact them for the 

1118
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,440
Lord. 
And so you want to make sure 

1119
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,720
that you do do your best with 
that. 

1120
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,560
Very quickly. 
We'll go to the next page. 

1121
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,640
We'll we'll stop in the middle 
of this here. 

1122
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,680
And then we're going to get to 
really the nuts and bolts of the

1123
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,600
verses and talking to people by 
the handout. 

1124
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,680
I want to give you tomorrow. 
It's not in here. 

1125
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,800
I mentioned it before because 
it's the perfect size to be able

1126
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,880
to cut and put in front of the 
flyleaf of your Bible to be able

1127
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,320
to answer questions. 
And I want to give that to you 

1128
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,600
tomorrow. 
But we'll get through some of 

1129
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,720
this. 
I'm going to give you a story, 

1130
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:46,920
then I'm going to be done here 
for tonight. 

1131
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,320
And then we'll take some 
questions if we have any, a 

1132
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,640
transition from your previous 
conversation, once we get to the

1133
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,560
place, want to talk to people 
about the Lord. 

1134
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,000
Now you're not talking about 
veterans and now you're not 

1135
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,760
talking about the teams, and now
you're not talking about those 

1136
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,040
different things. 
Now you want to really get to 

1137
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,200
the place we're talking about 
the Lord. 

1138
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,320
Because what if you're there for
30 minutes and you're just 

1139
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,440
talking about all these other 
random things and you never talk

1140
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,400
about Jesus? 
We kind of missed the boat. 

1141
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,080
So you want to make sure you 
transition that conversation. 

1142
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,000
You can't ask. 
Do you mind if I ask you a 

1143
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,880
personal question? 
But it's not necessary. 

1144
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,320
You don't have to be able to do 
that, but I know some people 

1145
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,480
that do. 
And you can say something like 

1146
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,840
this. 
Even more important than church 

1147
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,080
is having a personal 
relationship with Jesus Christ. 

1148
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,520
I find that that's a good way 
for me to transition because I'm

1149
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,240
talking about the church. 
I'm talking about the church 

1150
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,440
like, hey, we would love to have
you at Liberty Baptist Church, 

1151
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,080
But you know, there's something 
more important than coming to 

1152
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,240
church, and that's having a 
relationship with Jesus Christ. 

1153
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,120
He said, well, that doesn't 
sound very natural. 

1154
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,880
It doesn't sound natural if 
you've ever said it before. 

1155
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,880
But if you get to the place 
where you are able to have a 

1156
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,600
conversation with somebody, you 
will find that it will become 

1157
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,480
more natural than it has before 
You could even say this. 

1158
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,400
I used to have some of the same 
doubts, but I've asked Christ to

1159
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,080
be my Savior. 
My life has changed. 

1160
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,680
You can relate to them. 
Really, the best way that you 

1161
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,040
can relate to somebody is to 
tell them your testimony is to 

1162
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,760
be able to talk to them about 
what the Lord did to you. 

1163
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,280
I think of being outside really 
the first time I met you guys, I

1164
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,560
think with Bill, with your dad, 
and we were outside talking and 

1165
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,320
you could tell the Lord was 
really working in his heart. 

1166
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,120
But at the same time, he just 
really wasn't want to make that 

1167
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,040
next step. 
And so, you know, you can only 

1168
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,560
ask somebody, you know, do you 
want to get saved? 

1169
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,920
You want to get saved so many 
times. 

1170
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,520
And they say no. 
But I really just felt like in 

1171
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,640
my spirit that there this 
conversation shouldn't be done 

1172
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,920
yet. 
And So what I did was instead of

1173
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,240
just asking him the same 
question over and over again 

1174
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,440
from different angles, I just 
said, you know what, I kind of, 

1175
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,680
I was in a situation very 
similar to you. 

1176
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,520
I mean, I was only 16 years old,
but, and what I did is I just 

1177
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,800
started, I just gave them a 
testimony. 

1178
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,720
And I've found that being a 
Lutheran, I can talk to a lot of

1179
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,000
people, have a high church 
background, a Protestant 

1180
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,240
background, even a Catholic 
background and talk about the 

1181
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:50,760
sacraments and those kind of 
things. 

1182
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,320
And then able to do that. 
And it's amazing how many people

1183
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,320
don't want to have the personal 
question about them, but they 

1184
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,200
will let you talk about you. 
And so that's a great place to 

1185
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,480
start about how the Lord has 
worked in your heart and in your

1186
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,240
life. 
And there are two very important

1187
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,600
questions to really understand 
where somebody is spiritually. 

1188
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,680
I think this is where we'll lay 
off here in just a moment. 

1189
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,240
And the first is this. 
If you were to die today, are 

1190
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,960
you 100% sure that you would go 
to heaven? 

1191
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,560
There's a lot of people that 
will say no to that question. 

1192
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,400
They'll say, I hope so. 
I think so. 

1193
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,520
I want to listen. 
Those are not the same as yes, 

1194
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,600
hope. 
So salvation is not what the 

1195
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,200
Bible says when it talks about 
having the hope of eternal life.

1196
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,640
That's a firm confidence in 
eternal life. 

1197
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,840
That's not what this is talking 
about. 

1198
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,320
I, I, I hope so. 
I, I might, I, I, I don't know 

1199
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,000
that I can. 
I've done too many things. 

1200
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,160
These are things that I've had 
people say to me in the past, 

1201
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,880
but there are a decent amount of
people who say absolutely, 

1202
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,360
absolutely. 
And now if you're not careful, 

1203
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,800
you'll automatically think, 
well, they're saved. 

1204
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,560
But there's more to it than that
because you have to understand 

1205
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,720
if they actually understand the 
gospel message or not. 

1206
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,800
What if they've been in the 
Catholic Church all their life 

1207
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,520
and they firmly now, I don't 
know how they could in the 

1208
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,280
Catholic Church because they 
never have assurance. 

1209
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,280
That's why they keep working. 
But I have heard people say of 

1210
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,520
that fate, Well, yeah, well, 
I'm, I'm sure I'm going to 

1211
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,240
heaven. 
But they're relying on their 

1212
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,600
works. 
So the next question that I ask 

1213
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,480
is, well, you know, I imagine 
that you got to the gates of 

1214
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,400
heaven. 
I said, you know, it doesn't 

1215
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,480
work this way. 
It's not this way in the Bible, 

1216
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,440
but but just for us to be able 
to talk about this today, 

1217
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:26,200
imagine you got to the gates of 
heaven and there was someone 

1218
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,200
standing there and says, why 
should I let you into heaven? 

1219
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,400
What would you say? 
And that answer to the second 

1220
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,600
question is the most revealing 
of all because that's when 

1221
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,280
they'll say, well, I've been a 
good person. 

1222
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,880
Well, I've I've tried to help 
people. 

1223
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,200
I was in a church for 40 years, 
I was a founding member, and 

1224
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,760
that's when you could all of a 
sudden get to the point of, OK, 

1225
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,520
now I understand where they're 
coming from and I can better 

1226
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,320
understand how I can give them 
the gospel in their situation. 

1227
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,000
And we'll talk more about that 
tomorrow. 

1228
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,600
I will readily admit this is not
an easy process and you may not 

1229
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,920
always have all the answers, but
I'll tell you the one thing that

1230
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,640
will overarchingly help 
everything is to love people. 

1231
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,440
Because if you love people, you 
will find that there will be 

1232
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,320
more opportunities that you can 
imagine. 

1233
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,120
And if you love people as Christ
loved people, that you will be 

1234
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,160
able to, even if you don't have 
an answer for them right away, 

1235
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,520
that they'll be open enough for 
you to follow up with them and 

1236
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,720
talk to them again in the 
future. 

1237
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,320
Because people will ask you some
very weird questions and you may

1238
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,760
not have the answer. 
You say, again, Pastor, this is 

1239
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,440
not a good thing to tell us 
about wanting to share our 

1240
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,960
faith. 
What I'm telling you is this is 

1241
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,520
reality and don't let the fact 
that you don't have all the 

1242
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,920
answers stop you from giving the
gospel. 

1243
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,040
I, I appreciate so much. 
I appreciate Charlie Kirk and, 

1244
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,960
and the videos and the things 
that he stood for. 

1245
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,920
Very much so his mind worked in 
a, a way that it's hard for me 

1246
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,240
to even fathom. 
People would ask him very 

1247
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:02,200
difficult questions and he could
answer with grace and authority.

1248
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,880
In a second. 
I don't get it. 

1249
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,600
I don't understand how we did 
it, but I think a lot of times 

1250
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,200
we think that the only way we 
can be a real soul winner is 

1251
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,200
that we have to be the exact 
same way. 

1252
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,960
I have to answer every question,
every moment the right way. 

1253
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,560
And if I don't, no one will ever
get saved. 

1254
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,720
Now what you really need to do 
is just let the spirit lead love

1255
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,840
on people. 
And if you don't have the 

1256
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,080
answer, say I don't have the 
answer to that, but we can talk 

1257
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,560
again. 
I know where the answer is for 

1258
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,920
the Anthony. 
I have some fellowship today and

1259
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,920
he asked me a question. 
I'm almost embarrassed about 

1260
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,080
this. 
I've been a pastor for 12, 

1261
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,600
almost 13 years. 
I've been in the full time 

1262
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,800
ministry over 20 years. 
He asked me a question, 

1263
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:53,040
obviously came from some some 
soul winning that he's doing 

1264
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,880
with some working with somebody 
and he want to get my opinion on

1265
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,640
it. 
He asked me this question and I 

1266
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,760
just sat there for about 15 
seconds and I kind of felt dumb,

1267
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,160
to be honest with you, Anthony, 
because they're like, why don't 

1268
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,800
I have an answer to this? 
Because it was a little bit kind

1269
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,520
of out there. 
I don't know that anyone had 

1270
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,640
ever framed that thought in that
way to me before. 

1271
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,800
And I kind of worked through it.
After a few minutes, I just kept

1272
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,520
talking until I finally was 
like, Oh no, that's it. 

1273
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,840
I think that's it. 
That's what I would do. 

1274
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,120
It took me a few minutes. 
But if I study the Bible for a 

1275
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,480
living, not just getting 
sermons, but then also for 

1276
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,880
study, for personal and just my 
own edification. 

1277
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,440
And I could admit to you tonight
that there are times that I 

1278
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,240
don't just have the right answer
right away. 

1279
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,760
It's true for all of us. 
Don't let that stop you from 

1280
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,800
being a witness. 
That's Satan trying to tell you 

1281
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,480
now. 
One, we can sharpen our tools. 

1282
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,760
We can learn more. 
There's some of the stuff we 

1283
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,280
talked about today. 
It's like I got to dig into that

1284
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,200
after I dig into some of the 
other stuff that I have on my 

1285
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,560
list of things I need to dig 
into. 

1286
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,120
But at the same time, you can 
look at somebody in the eye and 

1287
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,880
say, I don't know the answer to 
that today, but I know where the

1288
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,120
answer is. 
And if we can meet another time,

1289
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,920
we can meet next week. 
If I can call you during the 

1290
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,920
week, I'd be glad to tell you 
what the Bible says. 

1291
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,800
But I'm not going to try to 
pretend to give you an answer 

1292
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,400
that I don't know. 
I'd much rather be honest and 

1293
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,160
tell you I don't know. 
Because The thing is, when it 

1294
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,640
comes to soul winning, this is 
again not, we'll go full circle 

1295
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640
here. 
This is not a debate to win. 

1296
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,760
Well, I answered the question 
fastest and most articulate. 

1297
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,240
So I win. 
Though this is an issue of truth

1298
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,520
against error. 
Truth always went, and so we 

1299
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,080
need to make sure that we are 
being truthful in what we say 

1300
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,240
and how we say it. 
And if you don't have the answer

1301
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:35,720
right away, don't be 
embarrassed, don't be ashamed. 

1302
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:38,400
You're not a failure. 
You should never go share the 

1303
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,640
gospel again. 
You just go back to the word, 

1304
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,840
find out where you missed it, 
find out what the answer is. 

1305
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,400
Go to another soul winner. 
By the way, it's another reason 

1306
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,320
to have two by two, because the 
other person might have the 

1307
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,040
answer when you don't, but you 
can go and get the help that 

1308
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,960
they need. 
Thank you for listening to the 

1309
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,560
sermon from the pulpit of 
Liberty Baptist Church. 

1310
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,200
If this message was a blessing 
to you, or if there's any way we

1311
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,320
can serve you, please let us 
know by contacting us at 

1312
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:10,200
info@mylibertybaptist.org. 
Or you can visit us this Sunday 

1313
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,120
at 800 Washington St. in Easton,
MA. 

1314
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,160
May the Lord bless you as you 
grow in His Word.

