1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Welcome to the Liberty Baptist Sermon Archives. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,040 The message you're about to hear was preached at Liberty Baptist 3 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:13,040 Church in Easton, MA. You can find out more about us 4 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:17,280 or contact us at my libertybaptist.org or just look 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,760 us up on Facebook. And now we hope that this 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,040 message from God's Word will be a blessing to you. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Turn in your Bibles, the second Corinthians chapter #5 this 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,200 morning. Brother Vince, would you grab my 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,600 clicker right there on the back shelf and bring it up? 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,280 You like that, Brother John? That was good. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,840 I've been practicing that for the last few weeks. 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,480 Yeah, yeah. You could toss it up here, but 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,720 thank you very much. Drake May himself. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,640 All right, thank you. The Second Corinthians chapter 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,240 #5 And we're going to be looking this morning as we finish our 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,960 miniseries on the Church of Jesus Christ, the Latter Day 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Saints, the Mormons. We're going to be looking at how 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,160 do we witness to a Mormon? We've talked a lot about the 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Mormon Church. We've talked a lot about the 20 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,600 fallacies of their teaching. But here's the thing, What 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,920 happens when you get a on your door and there's two young men, 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,640 probably in their very early 20s who have come to their door or 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,840 come to your door and they want to talk to you about Jesus 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,680 Christ. Well, how are you going to be 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,760 able to witness to them? Because again, if they say elder 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,000 so and so on that name tag, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,720 Day Saints, they are lost. They do not know the true Jesus 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,200 Christ as their savior. How do you interact with them? 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,760 What do you do? What do you say? 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,920 What do you do if you meet a Mormon who works at your 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,600 workplace or someone at a place that you've had some 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,520 opportunities to talk to them and they believe that they're a 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Christian just like you? Hey, you're a Christian, I'm a 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Christian. We go to different 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,760 denominations, but we're just the same, aren't we? 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,960 Well, of course, as we've seen the last several weeks, the 37 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:47,800 answer to that is an emphatic no. 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,240 We are not the same. We're not just talking about 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,440 some subtle denominational difference. 40 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,440 We're talking about preaching the truth against preaching 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,840 error, as they do in the Mormon church. 42 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,440 And so how do we share the gospel with these types of 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,040 people? Well, as I've mentioned you 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,880 before, remember that large flow chart that we had that showed 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,280 how someone could make it to the Kingdom? 46 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:11,280 And of course there were three levels of kingdoms as well. 47 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,160 And the celestial Kingdom, the terrestrial Kingdom and the 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,880 terrestrial Kingdom, those three different kingdoms, how does 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,120 someone come to know that they are going to be part of the 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,400 Kingdom in the Mormon church? Well, before we get to what I 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,640 want to show you this morning, I have a video that we show you 52 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:32,360 that's very much in the vein of the same gentleman who gave us 53 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,800 the video from the Jehovah Witnesses of probably about a 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,680 month or two ago. Do you remember when he asked 55 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,280 that young man that Jehovah Witness said can you in 3 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,520 minutes I'm dying? Can you tell me how that I can 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,800 know I'm going to have him? Does the same thing with a young 58 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,960 woman. I would like to tell you, 59 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,760 certainly she seems like she's a little bit flustered by the fact 60 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,960 that she only has about 3 minutes to be able to explain 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,360 this. But the issue is not necessarily 62 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,560 this man is kind of putting her in a time crunch. 63 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,720 It's trying to illustrate that it should be easy to explain 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,680 what salvation is. And that she is representative 65 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,640 of many Mormons who have no idea what it means to even be able to 66 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:07,400 go to the Kingdom and helps us to understand how we have an 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,880 opportunity to be able to reach them with the gospel. 68 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,440 So if we had that, Brother Scott, let's go ahead and show 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:20,160 that. The foundation of Mormonism is 70 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,720 idolatry. Their God lives on a planet 71 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,400 called Kolob or his multiple wives. 72 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,640 They preach another gospel 1 of salvation by works and they have 73 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:31,840 another Jesus, the brother of Lucifer. 74 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,840 They only pay lip service to the Bible because they have their 75 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,440 own so-called holy book which denies the existence of hell and 76 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,400 allows Adolf Hitler to make it into the 3rd heaven. 3 times 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,080 this young lady looked to her friends to be rescued. 78 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Finally they got the hint and took her away before she heard 79 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,680 the biblical gospel. Do you think there's an 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,960 afterlife? Yes. 81 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Are you a Christian? Yes, have. 82 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,800 You been born again. I've been baptized. 83 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,320 It mean born again. So I'm a member of the Church of 84 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,160 The question for you. There's a knife in my back. 86 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,720 I've got 3 minutes to live. How can I enter the Kingdom? 87 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,000 How can I get saved? What should I do? 88 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,360 I've got 3 minutes. I'm dying. 89 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:25,560 Enter the Kingdom. Well, you need to. 90 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,640 I got 2 1/2 minutes quick 2. And a half minutes. 91 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,360 I'm dying. I'm going to teach you about 92 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,200 Jesus well. Do it because I've now got 2 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,480 minutes you. Need to accept Jesus as your 94 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,080 savior? How do I do that? 95 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Allow His atonement to work through you. 96 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Accept Him, and let accept that he died for you, and that He 97 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,000 took upon him all of your sins, and then just. 98 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,240 Is that all I have to do? Also allow yourself to 99 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:01,160 understand that. One minute, Oh my gosh, blood 100 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,400 straining out of my body. I'm going, you know, I've, I've 101 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,600 come talk to him. Over there. 102 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,560 Go talk to him over there. I'm a fornicator, I'm a liar, 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,280 I'm a thief. I've broken the commandments. 104 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:11,200 I know I'm a big trouble on judgement day. 105 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,480 I think I'm going to go to hell. And what have I got to do again 106 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,720 you? Just have to accept Jesus and be 107 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,080 baptized and follow him and follow. 108 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Hey I got 40 seconds, how do I get baptized? 109 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,320 Find somebody who has the authority to baptize. 110 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,920 I can't move. I'm dying. 111 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,240 I've now got 15 seconds. Here. 112 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,360 We're going. To call somebody. 113 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Quickly. I'm under pressure. 114 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,200 I don't. So you can't help me, cannot get 115 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,040 up. I am. 116 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,200 I'm dead. It's all over. 117 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,480 I've gone to hell and you couldn't help me. 118 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,520 No, you didn't go. Dead. 119 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,000 I'm dead. No, you didn't go to hell. 120 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:44,440 Oh yes, I did. Oh, you just went to the spirit 121 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,640 world. When Jesus said he said fear not 122 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,640 humorous power to kill your body and cast your soul into hell. 123 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Fear him. Jesus said that he said the 124 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,400 place where the fire is never quenched and the worm never 125 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,320 dies. The Bible speaks to the lake of 126 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,320 fire and I'm terrified while I've gone. 127 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,360 Let me let me share with you a couple of thoughts. 128 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Remember the thief on the cross? Yes. 129 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Did he get baptized? I. 130 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,840 Don't remember. No, you don't. 131 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:10,520 I. Think so. 132 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,320 He was nailed to the cross. He couldn't go anywhere, he 133 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,600 couldn't do anything. Right, OK. 134 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,640 All over. Yeah, sorry. 135 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,400 No, no, it's not. He has another chance. 136 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,200 I. Don't. 137 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,680 I've gone. Hey, thanks for talking to me. 138 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Bye bye. I kind of added that. 139 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,480 I kind of added that music in there, if you like that. 140 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,480 No, that was no, that was the way that it came. 141 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,440 But no, it's again, very illustrative of the fact that 142 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,320 there seems to be some answers that sound like something that 143 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,600 we would say, but then when you dig below the surface, you 144 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,000 realize, oh, this, there is no salvation. 145 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,720 But hey, that's OK because there's still a chance you're 146 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,200 die, you're dead, but you you can still make it somewhere 147 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,560 else. And again, that flow chart that 148 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,080 we showed you before. And I want to make clear as we 149 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,800 go through these things, you think, well, how on earth am I 150 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:04,200 going to reach a, if I don't remember all of these things 151 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,360 that we have learned? How am I reach Jehovah Witness 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,400 if I don't remember all the things we've learned? 153 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,000 I, I'm sure that you're not going to remember all the things 154 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,360 that we've gone over in, well, 22 weeks of trying to talk about 155 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,440 false religions and Islam and Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons so 156 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,080 far. But I do believe there's some 157 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 things that will help you here this morning, specifically with 158 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,560 the Mormons, but also that we could apply several of these to 159 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,920 some of these other cults and world religions as well. 160 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,920 So let's go ahead and start looking at these and we'll first 161 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:36,160 look at #1 which is this Start with the sinlessness of Christ. 162 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,720 Start with the sinlessness of Christ. 163 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,120 You know, it's often better to start with someone that you 164 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,920 have, or let me put it this way, it's it's often better to start 165 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,640 when you're talking with someone with something that you might 166 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,400 have in common to bring common ground. 167 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Now we're not talking about hiding the truth. 168 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,040 This is what the Mormons will do is that they will try to hide 169 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,920 the ball from you and not actually tell you about all of 170 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,880 these other things. I'm just talking about in the 171 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,560 course of a conversation. Why don't you start first with 172 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,200 something that you might have in common and then when you have 173 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,000 common ground, be able to show where the differences are. 174 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,440 One of those places that you can show common ground is with the 175 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,800 sinlessness of Christ because of the Mormons will at least give 176 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,640 lip service to the sinlessness of Jesus Christ. 177 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Now do they believe that he is the Jesus Christ of the Bible? 178 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,480 No, they believe that he is the brother of Lucifer. 179 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,680 They believe that he is not very God like Father, Son and Holy 180 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Ghost as the Bible teaches. Yet there is a place that you 181 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,400 can kind of have a starting point with them talking of the 182 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,600 sinlessness of Christ. Now God's Word shows us that 183 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,120 Christ was sinless in every way, and that's why we're starting in 184 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,920 Second Corinthians chapter 5. Look at verse #18 with me, if 185 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,680 you will. It's a great place to be able to 186 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:51,360 start 2nd Corinthians 5 verse 18. 187 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,480 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by 188 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,880 Jesus Christ, and have given to us the ministry of 189 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,360 reconciliation. By the way, why do we need to 190 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,280 reach the Mormons? Because Jesus Christ reconciled 191 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,080 us to the Father, and we now have the ministry of 192 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,880 reconciliation to bring other people to Jesus Christ as well. 193 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,880 The ministry that I am in is the. 194 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Very same ministry to be honest with you that you are in the 195 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:20,360 ministry of reconciliation. I'm in full time quote UN quote 196 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,440 ministry, but really we're all to be full time ministers of the 197 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,440 ministry of reconciliation. Verse 19 To wit, that God was in 198 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,600 Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their 199 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,520 trespasses unto them, and has committed us to the unto us the 200 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:44,680 word of reconciliation them we are ambassadors for Christ, as 201 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:47,320 through as though God did beseech you by us. 202 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,840 We pray you in Christ's stead be reconciled to God, for he hath 203 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:57,600 made him to be sin for us who what knew no sin, that we might 204 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,160 be made the righteousness of God in him. 205 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,560 So where can we start with a more? 206 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,720 But we can start with the fact that Jesus knew no sin and the 207 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,880 sin of the world was placed upon him. 208 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,480 And reconciliation therefore comes through who Jesus Christ. 209 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,520 And you'll find some common ground here with a Mormon. 210 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,320 Now again, they take that very basic truth and run in an 211 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,440 opposite direction of what the Bible teaches. 212 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,200 But you could take them there and help them to understand what 213 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,280 the the sinlessness of Jesus Christ means. 214 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,080 He. 726 and 27 you want to turn there, but it's for such an high 215 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,000 priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate 216 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,640 from sinners, higher than the heavens, who needed not daily as 217 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,720 those high priests to OfferUp sacrifice first for his own sins 218 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,400 and then for the peoples. For this he did once when he 219 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,280 offered up himself. Listen, even Mormons would 220 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,720 acknowledge that Joseph Smith was a sinful creature. 221 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Even Mormons would acknowledge that he was not sinless, as 222 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,320 Jesus Christ was sinless. So again, this gives you a great 223 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,320 jumping off place in a conversation with them. 224 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:13,040 Because Christ's perfection is found for the true Bible 225 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,480 believing faith as well as Mormonism. 226 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,680 A person who begins with this doctrine meets a Mormon on 227 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,240 common ground. But if you're talking to a 228 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Mormon, ask him if he believes about Jesus perfectionism. 229 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Let him express his understanding until you start to 230 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,920 hear the differences emerge between that and Christianity. 231 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,080 And then when that moment arrives, ask simple questions 232 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,320 that reveal how other Mormon beliefs are inconsistent with 233 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,520 this conviction. So allow them to talk about a 234 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,400 little bit as they do talk about Jesus, and you started this 235 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,040 common ground, you'll start to hear things that are not common 236 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,800 ground. You'll start to hear things that 237 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,560 are unbiblical. And this gives you places to be 238 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:59,120 able to have conversation and to be able to start to show them 239 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,640 the truth. You might even ask how your 240 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,720 friend understands Jesus's perfect words, because if Jesus 241 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,800 was perfect and sinless. His words were. 242 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,240 Perfect as well, so you could ask them, well, how do you feel 243 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,840 about Matthew 2435? Heaven and earth shall pass 244 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,600 away, but my word shall not pass away. 245 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,160 If the perfect Jesus established his gospel forever, then why 246 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,800 does it need to be restored? Why was Joseph Smith necessary? 247 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Was Jesus's promise incorrect? Was Jesus lying when he spoke 248 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,680 about this? It was Jesus just not 249 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:34,640 understanding what the truth was. 250 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Listen, any of those things would be problematic. 251 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,520 It just happens to be that Jesus was who He said He was, and the 252 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,680 gospel does not need restoring, because the gospel has always 253 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:46,680 been. If your Mormon friend says, 254 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:51,280 well, God needs new prophets to bring new revelation, you can go 255 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,360 to Hebrews chapter 1, verses one and two. 256 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:57,200 God, who at sundry times in divers manners spake in time 257 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,480 passed under the fathers, by the prophets, hath in these last 258 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,480 days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of 259 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,160 all things, by whom also He made the world. 260 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,000 Jesus is the one who speaks to us today. 261 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,400 He is the living Word. We have the Word in front of us. 262 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,240 We don't need something new. And Jesus Christ is perfect. 263 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,640 And so being able to start there, you'll start to see, as 264 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,960 you discussed, the cracks emerge in their belief, and you follow 265 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,160 those cracks as they go along, and then you're able to talk to 266 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,400 them about other biblical doctrines as well. 267 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,160 Now #2 goes in hand, in hand with #1 and that's this. 268 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:40,200 Show them the sufficiency of Christ, sufficiency of Christ. 269 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,480 Christ isn't just perfect. He is perfectly sufficient to 270 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,600 meet the needs of mankind. Meaning it's this, It's Jesus 271 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,880 and nothing else. That's what salvation is. 272 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,880 It is not Jesus and self. It is not Jesus and work, Jesus 273 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:00,240 and money, Jesus and membership, Jesus and baptism, Jesus and any 274 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,480 of those things you know, Christ is sufficient to save us without 275 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,120 any of our help. Listen, Mormons don't believe 276 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,840 that. That Jesus just got the ball 277 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,760 rolling. But you need to be involved in 278 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,000 your own salvation. This isn't just Adam Rivero 279 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,320 talking. This is their own prophets who 280 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,480 say this. For instance, Listen, 281 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,720 immortality has been accomplished by the Savior's 282 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,640 sacrifice. Eternal life hangs in the 283 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,520 balance awaiting the works of men. 284 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:34,280 That was Spencer Kimball, the 12th LDS president, back in the 285 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,360 1980s, a book called The Miracle of Forgiveness. 286 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,400 It even has the page page 208. So if you have that at home, 287 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,160 just go to page 208 and you'll find it. 288 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,960 But listen, blasphemous immortality has been 289 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,040 accomplished by the Savior's sacrifice. 290 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,040 Eternal life hangs in the balance awaiting the works of 291 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,160 men. Meaning this Christ's sacrifice 292 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,480 was not sufficient. Christ's sacrifice wasn't 293 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,920 enough. Christ needs you to be able to 294 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,000 save yourself. That's a blasphemous statement. 295 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,160 That's a blasphemous thought. And the the Jehovah Witness, or 296 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,440 rather the Mormons, will give lip service to the fact that 297 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,520 Jesus is perfect, but he's not perfectly able to save you. 298 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,280 He needs you like Uncle Sam. I need you, Jesus. 299 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,920 I need you to be able to finish your salvation. 300 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,880 There's nothing biblical about that whatsoever. 301 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,120 When Paul addresses the false teaching about Jesus to the 302 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,720 church at Colossus, we don't know exactly all the details of 303 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,240 this false teaching, but we do know this. 304 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,320 He paints a picture of the fullness and sufficiency of 305 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,840 Jesus Christ. So why don't you turn to 306 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,800 Colossians chapter 2? This doesn't necessarily talk of 307 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Mormonism, but certainly it does give us a better understanding 308 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:53,760 of the sufficiency of Christ. Colossians chapter #2 We'll look 309 00:15:53,760 --> 00:16:07,520 at verse 8 to start. Beware lest any man spoil you 310 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,040 through philosophy and vain deceit, after the traditions of 311 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:17,520 men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 312 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,280 Now look at this. For in Him. 313 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,240 Now who's the Him? Well, you can go back up to the 314 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,680 previous verse. What's the last word of verse #8 315 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,400 Christ. For in him that would be Christ 316 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,280 dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily meaning this 317 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,840 Jesus is God. There is no contradiction. 318 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,160 There is no question about that whatsoever. 319 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,520 And ye are what's that next word? 320 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,840 Complete in Him which is the head of all principality and 321 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,800 power. We are complete in Jesus Christ. 322 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,000 No, we do not complete ourselves after Jesus gives us a head 323 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,440 start. Jesus is not the one who gets 324 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,720 the ball rolling. And then you are the one who 325 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,960 saves yourself so that you can become a God and have your own 326 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,720 spirit children and populate your own worlds. 327 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,839 No, no, we see that we are complete and Jesus Christ He is 328 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:12,640 sufficient as these New Testament passages model. 329 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,880 You want to move your Mormon friends or those Mormon 330 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,720 acquaintances that you meet who are on your doorstep from 331 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Christ's perfection to His sufficiency. 332 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,240 Help them to understand that Jesus Christ is enough. 333 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:31,200 Ask questions again to be able to understand exactly what they 334 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,760 think they need to do to be able to help themselves to eternal 335 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,240 life, to salvation. Ask questions. 336 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,000 We'll talk more about that in a few moments. 337 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,760 But you can find passages like these and others that would show 338 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,960 that the sufficiency of Christ is real. 339 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,560 We just saw this morning's brother Vince read several 340 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,880 different passages for us, that when Jesus died on the cross 341 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,760 that the veil was rent in twain. The Bible says it was ripped in 342 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,840 two. What does that mean? 343 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,440 That the work was done, It was complete, It is finished. 344 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:05,440 Wasn't saying that Jesus was giving up his life, He's giving 345 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,920 up the ghost. That would happen later. 346 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,520 It is finished. What was the finished? 347 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,200 The work that was done, paying the atonement for our sins, that 348 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,720 was what was finished. He would give up in the ghost a 349 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,960 few moments later. But the idea is this, it is 350 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,480 done. It is sufficient. 351 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,640 We can't help ourselves to get to heaven. 352 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,880 We get in the way of getting ourselves to heaven. 353 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:27,520 We're the ones that have been the stumbling block to 354 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,360 ourselves. Even accept Jesus Christ in the 355 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,880 1st place. We are not the answer, we are 356 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,520 the problem. We are the one that needs 357 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,280 saving. And so point out how sufficient 358 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,760 Christ is #3 as you go, define your terms. 359 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,240 I've said this before, I'll say it again, because Voltaire was 360 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,560 an atheist. He was a not a very kind man. 361 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,200 He hated Christians. But he has this one quote that I 362 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,120 really like. So I use it all the time. 363 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,760 And I've used it since Bible college. 364 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,160 And it's this. If you wish to converse with me, 365 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,200 define your terms. If you wish to converse with me, 366 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,640 define your terms. Now I've lived through this in 367 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,240 my life growing up, as I've told you before, I was a Lutheran 368 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,160 before I became saved and then became a Bible believing 369 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,760 Baptist. I went to a Christian School. 370 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,040 And so people would ask me for a long time, they would say, are 371 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,760 you saved? And my answer would be yes, 372 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,520 meaning I thought I was going to heaven, but was I saved the 373 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Bible way? Well, the answer is no. 374 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,520 So they would say, are you saved? 375 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,360 And then they would mean are you saved by faith through Jesus 376 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,080 Christ. When I'd say I was saved, I 377 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,160 meant something like this. Well, I'm saved because I was 378 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,040 baptized as a baby and I'd take the Lord's Supper. 379 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,080 I would even say I would save by grace through faith because 380 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,840 that's what the Lutheran Church would say. 381 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,880 Martin Luther made a big deal about that even while still 382 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,960 holding to the sacraments, giving eternal life. 383 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,280 And so we see the Bible does not teach that. 384 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,200 So we would be saying the same things. 385 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,400 The Baptist and myself as a Lutheran, we would say the same 386 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,840 thing, but we meant 2 completely different things. 387 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,760 So as you're talking with a Mormon, you remember that video 388 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,120 that she used, terms that would seem to suggest that we were on 389 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:06,760 common ground, but yet we are not on common ground even in the 390 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,520 terms in which she would use and we would use. 391 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,960 For instance, I would say, I believe that Jesus is God. 392 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,880 A Mormon would say, great, so do I Jesus is so important to our 393 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,920 faith. I would say, well, I believe 394 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,560 that salvation is a work of grace. 395 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,600 And that Mormon would say, so do I Unless it's by God's grace, I 396 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,600 have no hope. I would say I believe the Bible 397 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,280 is God's word. And the Mormon would say so do 398 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,520 I. The Bible is central to our 399 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,600 faith. You would seem like men. 400 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,640 We're the same person. It would seem like we believe 401 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,680 the same thing. And that's why you have to be 402 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,320 very careful when speaking to the Mormons to be able to 403 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,720 understand that although they might be trying to build that 404 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,560 common ground, there really is no common ground to be able to 405 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,560 be found when it comes to the issue of who Jesus Christ is, 406 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,200 who God the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost is, what salvation 407 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,480 is, what baptism is. She used a word I believe 408 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,160 atonement, that they wouldn't understand what the atonement 409 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,280 truly is, that they use the same terms. 410 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,400 But don't be fooled by that. Listen, Mormons are taught that 411 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,640 there are 6 different meanings for the word salvation. 6. 412 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,800 Salvation for physical death, salvation from sin, being born 413 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,160 again, salvation from ignorance, salvation from the second death, 414 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,840 exaltation or eternal life. All of those are baked into the 415 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,840 cake when they use the term salvation. 416 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,960 So listen, you could talk about are you saved? 417 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:27,800 And they could be thinking about any of those things. 418 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,080 So you have to be very careful when you talk to them. 419 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,680 Here's what it comes down to. And I will tell you, this has 420 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,080 been so good for me, going through these lessons and being 421 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,600 able to understand better how to talk to the cultists, to be able 422 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,880 to better talk to those who believe in false religion. 423 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Because a lot of times in dealing with these types of 424 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,600 folks, I have found that I have taken more. 425 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,880 I wouldn't even say necessarily a combative stance because I'm 426 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,280 not trying to combat them, but I would say this, that I was 427 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,760 certainly more willing to win an argument than wanting to win 428 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,920 their heart. It's almost like I wanted to 429 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,240 prove to them Jesus was God. And really, that's not the 430 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,920 point. You say, well, that's not the 431 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,400 point. Well, of course they have to 432 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,400 understand that Jesus is God to be saved. 433 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,760 But the real point is not to just prove them that Jesus is 434 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,120 God. I win and they still go to hell. 435 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,920 The point is I want them to understand they need to accept 436 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,720 that same Jesus to be saved. And so because of that has 437 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,520 helped me to understand that the way that I approach this ought 438 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,880 to be a lot different, meaning this you ought to ask a lot of 439 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,040 questions, come into these conversations like you know 440 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,240 nothing about Mormonism. And I'm not saying lie. 441 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,240 I'm not saying to try to present yourself falsely, but ask 442 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,800 questions to understand what they believe. 443 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,200 And in doing so, that will help you to be able to define your 444 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,440 terms. Here's where you can find hope 445 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,520 and comfort in the fact You say, well, pastor, I don't remember 446 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,160 what I was supposed to say to Jehovah Witnesses. 447 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,160 We looked at the witnessing to Jehovah Witness about, you know, 448 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,240 a month and a half ago. I don't remember what I was 449 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,240 supposed to say from that. You know, what do I do? 450 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,960 Well, here's what you can do with a Jehovah Witness you can 451 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,960 do with a Mormon. Listen, you can do with anybody. 452 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,880 Just ask questions. Just ask them questions. 453 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,480 For instance, you talk a lot about atonement. 454 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,240 What does that mean to you? Have you ever been baptized for 455 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,440 a dead person? Why did you do that? 456 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,400 Where do you see that in the Bible? 457 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,800 Can you explain to me why you think they're modern prophets? 458 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,960 Why don't the prophets always agree? 459 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520 I know some Mormon prophets have taught that Adam was God. 460 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Do you believe that by asking questions rather than just 461 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,280 making accusations, you can draw out a person's heart and 462 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,640 understand more about who they are and where they're coming 463 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,560 from and to be able to have a better biblical conversation, 464 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,320 all while being able to know where they're coming from 465 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,360 without having to remember. Oh, what did the Mormons 466 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,520 believe? How is it different than Jehovah 467 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,480 Witnesses? I don't remember. 468 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,880 I don't know what to say. We'll just ask them and even 469 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,320 just say, you know, I know there's some similarities 470 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,720 between the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons, but maybe can 471 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,120 you tell me a little bit about that? 472 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:02,520 You say, well, would they be insulted? 473 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,800 I think they would probably just say, well, we're not like 474 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,920 Jehovah Witnesses. They they'd say, well, and we'll 475 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,720 start giving you and now all of a sudden you have some things to 476 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280 talk about because you have asked questions because you'll 477 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,960 start hearing things. You say, Nope, that's not in the 478 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,440 Bible. That's not in the Bible. 479 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,200 That's not in the Bible. This gives you points of 480 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,240 conversation, ask questions. Proverbs 20 verse 5 says, as 481 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,920 counsel in the heart of man is like deep water, but a man of 482 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,240 understanding will draw it out. Meaning this, that you are not 483 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,720 going into an adversarial, combative situation with this 484 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,320 person. What are you trying to do? 485 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,560 You're trying to draw the error out of them so that you 486 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,800 understand why they believe what they believe so that you can 487 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,080 then give them the truth. Again, we're not talking about 488 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,720 hiding the truth. We're not talking about 489 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,800 listening to error and saying, Oh yeah, well, Oh well, well, 490 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,800 God bless you and walking away. We're talking about having a 491 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,600 real conversation and being able to present the truth to them. 492 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,160 But don't you think you have a better opportunity to be able to 493 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,920 talk to one of these people with that type of comfort, with that 494 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,440 type of situation than being confrontational? 495 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,760 I've told you 2 stories about dealing with Jehovah Witnesses. 496 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,640 I've dealt with a lot more Jehovah Witnesses, the Mormons, 497 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,360 over the years. But I've talked to you about one 498 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,920 that was more combative, that was out here on the parking lot 499 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:13,600 where they were trying to win me to Jehovah Witness to be a job 500 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,680 witness in the parking lot of the Church of which I pastor. 501 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,800 And I had to tell, and I started with this. 502 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,800 I said, listen, you know, don't give me the new world 503 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,600 translation because that's a corrupt translation. 504 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,120 Now I'm right in that. But you know where that 505 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:30,600 conversation went? Nowhere. 506 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,480 It would absolutely nowhere because I shut them down before 507 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,440 we started. The best conversation I've ever 508 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000 had with Jehovah Witnesses, as I mentioned to you before, was 509 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,560 when I was in Vermont and I saw three of them sitting there. 510 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,480 They're really the saddest looking people I ever saw. 511 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,960 A mother, a father and a teenage daughter. 512 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,440 And it was hot and they were sitting there and that you could 513 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,320 just tell they were like, is our hour done yet? 514 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,720 You know, they were waiting to get out of there. 515 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,840 So I bought them bottles of water at the store, a cold 516 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,040 bottles of water and brought it to him. 517 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,800 I started talking to him and I started asking him questions and 518 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,600 I talked about different things and I asked him, you know, you 519 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600 know, why would you? Because I tried to give him a 520 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,280 track and they said they'd, you know, they wouldn't take. 521 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,920 I said, why would you not? Why would you not take a track? 522 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080 I don't mind taking one of your pieces of literature. 523 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,880 You know, we had a good conversation here, dude. 524 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,120 Why would why would you be afraid to take a little piece of 525 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:16,560 paper that, well, we're not allowed to do that. 526 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,200 Where, where does it say in the Bible to be able to do that? 527 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,880 Can I tell you, I still wonder if I had an impact on them that 528 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,920 day more than anyone else ever talked to. 529 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,080 I'm not saying they got saved that day, but I'm wondering if I 530 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,880 planted something and Lord willing, someone else watered 531 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,960 and hopefully someday I meet him in heaven. 532 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,200 I pray that would be the case. But what is that? 533 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,240 What's the difference? Well, I was able to go define 534 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,400 terms. I was able to ask questions. 535 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,240 It was a different way of looking at it. 536 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,600 Listen, if I've learned anything about studying these cults and 537 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,640 studying these false religions, it's this, that they are so 538 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,240 typically mistreated when they go to a door that they are 539 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,840 expecting you're going to be a jerk. 540 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,120 Now listen, they're peddling falsehood. 541 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,480 I don't know that I feel sorry for them, but I will say this, 542 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,280 that just the fact that you treat them with just a tiny bit 543 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,000 of decency will go such a long way. 544 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,200 I've made a point to Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons and 545 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,560 talking to them before to say, listen, I appreciate what you do 546 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,800 and I stand up for the right for what you do because we do the 547 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,480 same. But I do say this, but we have a 548 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,400 different message. I support your right to be able 549 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,200 to go to door to door because it's what we do as a church as 550 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,200 well. But I will say don't be fooled. 551 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Our messages are different. They are not the same. 552 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,240 And even in that, there's a little common ground. 553 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,240 Well, they support what we do. Well, I was able to tell them, 554 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,080 yeah, we support what you do in the sense that legally you 555 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,120 should be allowed to do it because we have the 556 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,280 constitutional right to be able to do so. 557 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,720 But you also are wrong in what you're doing. 558 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,320 And I want to tell you why. So making accusations or or 559 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,280 saying, Hey, did you know you're you're God lives on the planet 560 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,680 Kolob. Probably not a great way to 561 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,560 start. Did did you did you know, did 562 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,800 you know your God had a physical relations with Mary and that's 563 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,240 how Jesus was born? That's not a great way to start. 564 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,840 Now, is that a great way to win an argument? 565 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,680 Probably because you're going to show them how absurd they are. 566 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,280 Are you going to win them to Christ? 567 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,480 Probably not. So just define the terms. 568 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,360 You're not trying to win an argument, you are trying to win 569 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,680 them to Christ. And if in general, just remind 570 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,480 yourself this, don't quarrel, question, don't quarrel, don't 571 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,920 have a quarrel with them. Again, that doesn't mean that 572 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,200 you're not emphatic about what you believe, but you're not 573 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,120 trying to start an argument. Just ask them questions if 574 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,160 you're not sure you know, you know what is Mormonism like what 575 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,800 what, what do you believe? What, what is your church like? 576 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,640 You know, and as you just have an honest conversation with 577 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,680 them, you will find plenty of things to be able to talk to 578 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,560 them about the word of God because you've drawn it out of 579 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,600 them in a very normal conversation. 580 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,480 Their guard will come down. They won't be so as willing to 581 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,880 be able to maybe be adversarial as they were in the beginning. 582 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,600 Unless I'm not saying you're going to win them to Christ 583 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,560 necessarily. In fact, the chances are very 584 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,800 low that you're going to win a cultist to Christ at your door. 585 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,520 I'm not saying it can't happen, but I'm saying it's very low 586 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,240 because they're coming to be able to win you. 587 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,080 It's unlikely you'll do the opposite. 588 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,440 But what if you just push them a little bit closer to Jesus 589 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,000 Christ, the real Jesus Christ? Isn't that worth it? 590 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Isn't that what we're trying to do? 591 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,280 So as you go, define your terms #4 show the sufficiency of 592 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,880 Scripture. Here's that word again. 593 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,920 Sufficiency. But it's not just Jesus Christ 594 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280 that is sufficient. It is the Scriptures that are 595 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,840 sufficient. The eighth article of faith of 596 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,360 the LDS says this. We believe the Bible to be the 597 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,240 word of God as far as it's translated correctly. 598 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,480 Now that is their escape clause, meaning this we believe the 599 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,200 Bible is true, but anything we don't like, what's a 600 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640 mistranslation? Isn't that kind of what the 601 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Jehovah Witnesses did? And they did it to such a degree 602 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,760 that they created their own Bible. 603 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,520 But interestingly enough that when you interact with a Mormon, 604 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,120 guess what Bible they're going to use, They will be using the 605 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560 King James Bible. So you will be able to have 606 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,360 familiar verses to be able to interact with them because you 607 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520 will be on the same ground using the King James Bible as the 608 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Mormons do. However, we believe that the 609 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,400 King James Bible has been preserved for the English people 610 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,960 is perfect, that there is no error within it. 611 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,560 They do not believe that about any Bible. 612 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,800 They do not believe that. And that is their way of saying 613 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,000 if something doesn't agree with them, well, that's just been 614 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000 corrupted over time. Whenever there's been a problem, 615 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,040 they simply say, oh, well, it wasn't translated correctly. 616 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,280 And by the way, that's why the doctrine of both inspiration and 617 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,560 preservation are so important. The Word of God was inspired, 618 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,720 but it's also been preserved through all generations so that 619 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920 we can know that we trust the Word of God when we have it in 620 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,160 front of us as we do man. There's a lot of verses about 621 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,720 this. Second Timothy 315 through 17 622 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,480 that from a child thou has known the Holy Scriptures which are 623 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,000 able to make thee wise, and the salvation through faith which is 624 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720 in Christ Jesus. All scriptures by given by 625 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,480 inspiration of God is proful for doctrine, for reproof, for 626 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280 correction, for instruction and righteousness, that the man of 627 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,240 God may be perfect again sufficient, thoroughly furnished 628 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000 unto all good works. Proverbs 30, verses 5:00 and 629 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880 6:00. Every word of God is pure. 630 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,520 He is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 631 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou 632 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,720 be found a liar, and not unto his words. 633 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,040 Isn't that what the Mormons have done they've created three other 634 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,960 holy books to be able to be put on equal footing and really 635 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,920 greater footing than the word of God, but he said this don't add 636 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,200 to it. We can go to the end of the Book 637 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,560 of Revelation. What does it say? 638 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,800 Don't add to it. Don't subtract from it. 639 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,840 Psalm 19 verse 7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the 640 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,160 soul, the testimony the Lord is sure making wise the simple. 641 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:43,160 Psalm one 19160 The word is true from beginning from the 642 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,000 beginning, and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth 643 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,320 forever. Isaiah 820 Galatians 189 over 644 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,240 and over and over again, the sufficiency, the preservation of 645 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,000 the Scriptures. You can trust the word of God. 646 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,640 You can trust the word of God that you have in front of you. 647 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360 We thank the Lord for that. The Mormons do not believe that 648 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,880 First Nephi 13, verse 26. After the 12 apostles from the 649 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,160 Jews under the Gentiles, they have taken away from the gospel 650 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,320 of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious, and 651 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,560 also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away. 652 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,360 First Nephi 1328, few verses later. 653 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,920 There are many plain and precious things taken away from 654 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,200 the book which is the book of the Lamb of God. 655 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,480 Few verses later, verse 34. First Nephi chapter 13. 656 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,480 The Gentiles do stumble exceedingly because of the most 657 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,720 plain and precious parts of the gospel which have been kept back 658 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,720 by that abominable church doctrine and covenants 20 verse 659 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,560 9. The Book of Mormon contains the 660 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,480 fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles and to 661 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,840 the Jews also. Doctrines and Covenants 42 verse 662 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,520 12, The elders, priests and teachers of this church. 663 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200 So I'll teach the principles of my gospel which are in the Bible 664 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,840 and the Book of Mormon, in which is the fullness of the gospel. 665 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,720 What are they saying over and over again? 666 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,240 The Bible is not enough, but yet the Bible teaches it is enough. 667 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,440 Listen, you can't have both. The Book of Mormon is a fraud 668 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,480 and a falsehood, and all of its other books like the Pearl of 669 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,760 Great Price and the Doctrines of Covenants, or the Bible is what 670 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,760 it is. They cannot hold the Bible and 671 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,960 say it is one of their holy books when it so plainly 672 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,800 contradicts what the Book of Mormon says. 673 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040 The fullness of the gospel came through these books. 674 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,720 That means there was no gospel. That means that Jesus Christ was 675 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,240 wrong. That means Jesus Christ did not 676 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,600 do. And again, this goes back to the 677 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,560 sufficiency of Christ, that He was not enough. 678 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,680 No, this is not what is taught. And so there is certainly plenty 679 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,160 of place for conversation about the sufficiency of Scripture and 680 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,520 also those other books as well. Listen, wait to expose 681 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,240 contradictions. Now, is it important for us to 682 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,560 expose contradictions? Well, of course, of course it's 683 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,320 important. But again, as I mentioned 684 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,560 before, don't lead with that. Don't go through and talk about 685 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,880 the most egregious things first. As I said, every time that I've 686 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,120 talked to a Jehovah Witness and I've said something about, well, 687 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,320 the New World Translation is a corrupt translation. 688 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,040 Listen, that ends the conversation. 689 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,360 I'm right, but it ends the conversation. 690 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,440 And so I've learned that that's probably not the best way to go. 691 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,120 In fact, the best way to go is to be able to use their own 692 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,840 corrupted New World translation to be able to show them versus 693 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,000 that still remain that show who Jesus Christ is. 694 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,600 Remember we saw first John 1/3 that they scrub Jesus Christ and 695 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,840 His exclusivity as the Son in John 11, but yet they left an 696 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,400 opening and John 1/3 were able to show that through the New 697 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,199 World translation. But don't start from that point. 698 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,320 This is the place I've failed many times over the years is 699 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,199 again as I mentioned, I've tried to win the argument but not win 700 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:50,520 the heart and win them to Christ. 701 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,000 Now are there a lot of contradictions in their faith? 702 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,560 Yes. Are they contradiction? 703 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,360 They contradict the Bible, their books contradict the Bible, 704 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,360 their books contradict their own books, and on top of that, their 705 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,040 prophets contradict the books and the prophets contradict each 706 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,800 other. Is that confusing enough for 707 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,520 you? There's plenty of things. 708 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,280 Thank you, Marcia. There are many good things. 709 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,200 It is confusing, isn't it? There are plenty of things that 710 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,000 you can show that are contradictions, but make sure 711 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,120 that you get the conversation to the right place before you start 712 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,120 to be able to expose all these things. 713 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,800 And This is why these in any of these conversations, there's not 714 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,840 A1 size fits all way of dealing with it. 715 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,400 And I want to be careful in how I present this because really 716 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,680 you just have to be led by the spirit. 717 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,040 It would be like saying, well, there's one way to show someone 718 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,800 to Jesus Christ. Well, as long as it's biblical, 719 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,200 you might have many different approaches because people are 720 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,040 different. Some people might need a more 721 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,520 confrontational style. Some people you start like that, 722 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,360 they're gone. They don't want to talk to you. 723 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,680 And so be spirit LED when dealing with these things. 724 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,760 But I will say this, when Jesus talked with the woman at the 725 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,320 well, did he start with this? Hey, woman, you got you had five 726 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,480 husbands and the man that you're living with is not your husband. 727 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,560 I have a feeling that conversation would never have 728 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,760 commenced if he had opened with that. 729 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,800 Now he didn't avoid it. Let's be careful about this. 730 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,040 He didn't say, well, the only way I can reveal who I am is by, 731 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:22,720 you know, not really dealing with sin. 732 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,760 He dealt with her sin, but he dealt with it at a time when she 733 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,120 heard that that she was pricked in the heart. 734 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,640 She would not have been pricked in the heart. 735 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,640 If he had LED with that at the beginning. 736 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,240 What would have happened? She probably would have just 737 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,280 gone away. Now Jesus knows all hearts so 738 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,200 it's easy for him to be able to do right because he knows every 739 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,720 we don't know every heart and again, that's why it's so 740 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,320 important to be spirit LED got to go through these quickly. 741 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,120 Number six, share the rest that Christ brings. 742 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,840 This is true with all cultists. It's especially true with 743 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,560 Mormons because it's all about works. 744 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,760 There is no rest for them. They do and they do and they do 745 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,840 and they do. And again, you could say this 746 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,960 about Catholicism, you could say this about Jehovah Witnesses, 747 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,760 that it's all about doing works. And so because of that, there's 748 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,920 no real peace. But it is especially true at the 749 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,000 Mormons because of the hoops that they make them jump 750 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,480 through. They have to be able to do 751 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,400 things at the church level or the stake level. 752 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,840 They have to then end up doing things outside of their stake, 753 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,600 outside of their group of churches. 754 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,000 Then they have to do things in the temple, including being 755 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,600 baptized on behalf of the dead. They go through genealogies to 756 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,480 find people who may have died in their family in the past, and 757 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,720 they're baptized on their behalf. 758 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,920 The temple writes the temple rituals. 759 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,760 It goes on and on. On top of the fact that the men 760 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000 from 18, I think he's 18 years old to 20. 761 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:46,520 I may be a little bit off on the on the ages, but I do know all 762 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,240 Mormon men are supposed to give two years to missionary work and 763 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,280 all Mormon women 18 months to mission work right at the 764 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,080 beginning of their lives. They gave their adulthood 765 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,960 rather. And So what are they doing? 766 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,520 They've been working and working and working and working and 767 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,600 working and working and still no promise of eternal life. 768 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,560 To be able to share with them that Jesus yoke is easy and his 769 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,960 burden is light is something they can't comprehend. 770 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,240 It is something they cannot understand. 771 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000 So be able to share with them how you can have peace. 772 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,760 Well, I know for certain that I'll go to heaven someday. 773 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560 To them that's unfathomable. They don't even know how that's 774 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,040 possible. You can show them from the 775 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,000 Bible. That's the case. 776 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,840 All the all the gospel interactions that took place in 777 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,040 the book of Acts. When they were done, people 778 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,000 said, well, I guess I'm a little bit closer to eternal life. 779 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,280 They never said that. They said this, I'm saved. 780 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,880 They came to understand that they knew Jesus Christ the 781 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,880 Savior. I look at the Ethiopian eunuch, 782 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,360 and by the time he was baptized, he didn't say, well, I guess I'm 783 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,320 a little closer to heaven. No, he went away rejoicing and 784 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,720 his life changed forever. Because there's rest that comes 785 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,440 with knowing Jesus Christ as your Savior. 786 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,200 And then #7 listen, don't ever get over this. 787 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,480 Share your testimony when you don't know what to do. 788 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,120 Share your testimony as you're listening and question them. 789 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,800 Find common ground. I have found over the years, 790 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,280 even though I didn't grow up Catholic, I grew up Lutheran. 791 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,760 I've been able to interact with a lot of people who were 792 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,000 Catholics because I found common ground in our stories. 793 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,360 Listen, Catholics believe 7 sacraments, Lutheran's believe 794 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,240 two. Guess what? 795 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,400 There's enough common ground there that I could show we were, 796 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,440 we had altar boys. I was an altar boy when I was a 797 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,560 Luther. Could you imagine me as an altar 798 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,800 boy? How cute would that be, right? 799 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,160 I was a 7th grader wearing the whole get up and a little limp 800 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,200 mustache, but it was pretty bad. So all things considered, but I 801 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,480 understood being an altar boy, I understood I never went through 802 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,360 CCD, but we had confirmation which what it was called. 803 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,000 So I'm able to find those things. 804 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,200 I'm able to talk to someone who was a Catholic or someone who 805 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,480 may be as newly saved, unable to find some common ground and 806 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,000 share my testimony. Listen, do you have much common 807 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,160 ground with a Mormon? No, but do you have some common 808 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,080 ground? Well, yes. 809 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,120 Here's why. If we go all the way back to 810 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,360 lesson 1, which seems like a a while ago, but if we went all 811 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,000 the way back, yeah, I feel you, Ralph. 812 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,480 But if we go all the way back to lesson 1, we saw there's really 813 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,880 only two religions, right? God and not God. 814 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,960 That's it. I mean, that's it. 815 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,120 So guess what? In the time you were not God, 816 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,240 you can find common ground with a Mormon. 817 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,360 You can maybe find, you know, listen, I wasn't a Mormon, but I 818 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,280 was a Catholic that I understood that I just never had peace 819 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,520 because I wasn't sure that I'd ever done enough. 820 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,040 I went to Catholic funerals and they were always telling us to 821 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,880 pray for the dead because know if they had gone to heaven or 822 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,880 not. And so I can empathize a little 823 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,640 bit of what you're saying. Be able some of your testimony, 824 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,800 listen, your testimony is the greatest weapon, if you will, 825 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,000 outside of the word of God that you have. 826 00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,520 And if you don't know how to share your faith with somebody, 827 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,400 if you get confused, listen, just share your testimony. 828 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:50,840 You cannot go wrong saying how you got saved. 829 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,600 It is a wonderful thing and we say it's a weapon. 830 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,600 I don't mean it's a weapon in a offensive sense that on offense, 831 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,440 but the idea is this God has given you this life. 832 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,520 Share that transformation that took place and show them, 833 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,560 listen, I don't know that I can answer everything for you, but 834 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,160 he changed my life and talk about the woman at the well. 835 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,280 She ran away. She left her water pot down and 836 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,920 she didn't say, now let me explain to you the sufficiency 837 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,320 of Christ. Let me explain to you about his 838 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,680 dual nature of being 100% God, 100% man. 839 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,080 She couldn't explain all that. She said this. 840 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,680 Come see a man. He knows all things. 841 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,240 Surely this is the Christ. That's what she says. 842 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,440 Listen, if you can't say anything else, you could say 843 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,480 this. Surely this is the Christ. 844 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,960 He's changed my life and he's changed your life as well. 845 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,840 Thank you for listening to the sermon from the pulpit of 846 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,720 Liberty Baptist Church. If this message was a blessing 847 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:49,200 to you, or if there's any way we can serve you, please let us 848 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,800 know by contacting us at info@mylibertybaptist.org. 849 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,600 Or you can visit us this Sunday at 800 Washington St. in Easton, 850 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,440 MA. May the Lord bless you as you 851 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,640 grow in His Word.