1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,560 This is this comes this record. This is comes this like. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,520 Like it's just me, essentially. Like, motherfucker, the big 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,800 three, it's just beat me. Just beat me, Bomb. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,160 Yeah. And their bomb is not even that 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,280 good. They need to relax. 6 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,600 What is going on? Everybody welcome to the 30% 7 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,080 podcast. I am Sam. 8 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,960 I'm here with my Co host. The most amazing. 9 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:08,880 I hate. The most amazing. 10 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,240 The most average. The most average. 11 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,800 Affirm. Shots fired. 12 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Yeah, average on this 72nd episode of. 13 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,600 The on episode 72. Yes #72. 14 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Yeah. Shout out to everyone who's 15 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,920 listening, of course. You can find this podcast on 16 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Spotify. You can find it on Apple, on the 17 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,920 Apple platforms, Apple Podcasts or Apple Music. 18 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:33,520 You can find it on Google Podcasts. 19 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,320 Still, it's not dead yet. The apps are still up and we're 20 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:39,800 also on YouTube. Dead. 21 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,000 It's not dead. It's still on the apps. 22 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,200 The apps are still up, like I still have Google podcasts and 23 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,680 people are still using podcasts on it. 24 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,200 We're on there. We're just just trust me, we're 25 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,560 on there still. 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Snapchat, Snapchat. 37 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,640 I never got to the I never got to the Snapchat era. 38 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:31,880 I never got the whole what? What? 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,480 What's, what's the unique selling point of Snapchat? 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,960 The USP, as they call it. I mean sending pictures. 41 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,600 Oh. So Instagram just like showing, 42 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,240 like just the whole the whole having like your story, having a 43 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,240 story like that's came in Snapchat. 44 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,320 OK, everybody. Everybody stole that idea. 45 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,080 Remember when Instagram was just like pictures? 46 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,080 And then there's a whole thing about them stealing Snapchat's 47 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,560 business model. All, all social media has 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,960 morphed into one. They're all one thing now. 49 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,600 The old one. Anyway, this is not the social 50 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,920 media podcast this the is a music podcast AFAM. 51 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,440 What's going on, man? Yo, what's up man? 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Yo, I'm good, bro. I am chilling. 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,840 I'm chilling. Yeah, bro. 54 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Had a had a had a busy week man. Bro, I'm all. 55 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:32,120 I'm all the way in New York NY I'm out here. 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,160 I'm out here with Foster. Foster is my artist. 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,080 I've been talking about Foster a lot on the podcast. 58 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:39,520 Yeah. Yeah. 59 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,280 So we're out here. We're out here working on music, 60 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,040 creating content. And yeah, man. 61 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Get in that drum and bass going. I like it. 62 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Making D&B like hard to travel 63 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,240 here man. Exciting thing actually brah 64 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,160 tomorrow. So this is Monday. 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,560 We're we're Foster and I we're going to be going to see Pink 66 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,480 Panthers and. Oh you're finally planned you're 67 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,880 you're because we've been talking about about pink 68 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,760 Panthers as like sort of like a sound that you're trying to like 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,280 get to see. You guys are going to see her. 70 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,640 I'm. Going to see, oh, that's dope. 71 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,760 I'm going to see my fellow Kenyon. 72 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,480 Yeah. Where is she playing? 73 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:23,480 I forgot the name of the the the venue but like it's it's close 74 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,960 by. It's close by right now we're 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,680 like in Brooklyn so it's Brooklyn bro. 76 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,120 I'm I'm very new to this place, so I also don't be knowing like 77 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,960 places like that. So yeah, so I'm excited about. 78 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,280 Capital of. What else? 79 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,680 What else is going on in my life? 80 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:48,240 Yo bro, Shout out to Bouti Boutros Energy kudos as well as 81 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:54,960 as well as Mr. Ice Prince Zamani Yeah yeah so bro, this this week 82 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,840 has been active man. Yeah, yeah. 83 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:59,520 Shout out to Musao. Shout out to Boutros. 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,840 With Mutindo, Boutros released Mintindo. 85 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:06,640 That's what AFAM is talking about and AFAM managed to snag a 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,160 couple placements on the joint. He he got two songs too late. 87 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,280 And what's the other one called? Formula One. 88 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:16,400 Formula One. So go play those please run them 89 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,320 up. Bro needs the money. 90 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,720 Run them up. Run them up. 91 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Shout out to you man. That's that's that's cool. 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,240 I had some joints on there, but they were they were cut. 93 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,800 OK. Are we allowed to say that? 94 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Are we allowed to say that? Can I say that is it? 95 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Is it I? Think we can. 96 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,240 I think we can. I think we can mention, yeah, 97 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,000 yeah, OK, we can, we can, we can. 98 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,680 But just like within reason. So essentially me and Sam had 99 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,320 worked on this album years ago. Like years. 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,480 Like while the dinosaurs still roamed the Earth, so. 101 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Basically, yeah. You know how things are 102 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,400 sometimes in the music industry. Like music gets recorded and 103 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,800 then released like way afterwards. 104 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,840 So essentially, Mctindo was a very different album when Sam 105 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:09,400 and I both worked on it. At the time, me and Sam had 106 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,320 collabed on a song together, but like, you know, times change and 107 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,320 everything, so like, those songs essentially got cut. 108 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Sucks as a sucks as a producer. It sucks as a producer when when 109 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,920 your joints get cut. But it's part of it because and 110 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,360 and and actually like it because that shows that he has he's 111 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,600 taking time with the project so he's not just like giving us 112 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,320 like what he initially recorded and he's like OK, I want to take 113 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,760 our stuff and that's cool. Like that's definitely a better 114 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,240 it's it's it's helps for like it's more thoughtful, it's more 115 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,720 curated, it's it's just better. Of the original. 116 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,320 So the original album I believe was like 10 or 12 tracks. 117 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,880 The only ones that survived were two songs, and those are the two 118 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,840 songs that I happened to work. On the boy is working and of 119 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:59,200 course I I would think he would especially after after Angela 120 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,240 blew up. I would think that there would 121 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,840 be some restructuring of of of some of the sound. 122 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:07,720 They have to cater to that world sound like because that's what's 123 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,720 putting. OK, now that we're here, we can 124 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,160 kind of just talk about like Buttress a little bit like bro, 125 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,000 no, actually, before we even talk about butchers a little 126 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,840 bit. Sam, how was your. 127 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Week, Sam. My week is very important. 128 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Let's talk about butchers. Butchers. 129 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Just a project. No, no, no, no. 130 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,280 How was my week, Sam? How was my week? 131 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:26,640 It was cool, man. At school. 132 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,400 I'm back to producing it. And I've been just. 133 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,000 I've been making a bang. I'm working on a project. 134 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Hey, let's go. Yeah. 135 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,520 I figured out what my first release is going to be. 136 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,840 I just have to put it together now like I'm trying to get the 137 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,280 visuals right and I'm trying to get I don't know if I want a 138 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,240 feature on it but we'll see how it goes. 139 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,440 It's it's I'm a piano promo is promo at this point it's I'm a 140 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,440 piano but it's I'm doing a fusion between. 141 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,720 I'm a piano and like electronic music. 142 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,960 I'm a very. I lean heavily. 143 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,840 I lean heavily. Electro piano. 144 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Yeah it's Electro piano. I've coined the term I've coined 145 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,640 the term Electro piano. So it has like a lot of 146 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:09,000 electronic elements like the Saints and it's almost like not 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,120 not dance music like with melodies and stuff but then like 148 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,880 you know like electronic sounds and just the ex the the 149 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,600 experimenting of of of synths and and sine waves and all that 150 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,560 business like what people did. So I've, I've tried to in 151 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,760 incorporate that into like I'm a piano, the basic I'm a piano 152 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:34,440 sounds, the Shakers, the log drum, the Moody brooding pads 153 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,200 and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm really excited 154 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,919 about it. I've not played it for you, I've 155 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:40,200 played for you. I'll send it to you, see what 156 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,520 you think. But yeah, it's cool. 157 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,960 I'll send it to a couple of people who've gotten some 158 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,560 feedback. A lot of people like it. 159 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,040 So I'm hoping to release that soon. 160 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Yeah, just that and planning, man. 161 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,120 Planning, planning, planning, trying to get some things done. 162 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,680 But apart from that, not much has been happening. 163 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:58,960 It's been raining in Nairobi as it is now, and we all love a 164 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,320 good shower. So Yep. 165 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,080 Rain is good. Man, I really miss home. 166 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,040 Well, anyway. Already. 167 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Yeah, bro. You can't start missing it 168 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,760 already, man. You're not even a month. 169 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,720 Just stay strong, bro. Stay strong, brother. 170 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,840 Stay strong. So like. 171 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,440 But yeah, bro, so we were about to talk to talk about Boutros, 172 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,840 man, what a guy. Like if you if you if you just 173 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,840 think about. What a guy. 174 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,960 Like from From our perspective as producers, yeah. 175 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,800 Like for me, the biggest song that the time that he was coming 176 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,520 to the studio was was obviously, yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to 177 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Cap. I feel like yeah, yeah is what 178 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,680 put Cap on the map as a producer. 179 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:44,960 So, like, shout out to him, Cap on the map. 180 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,800 Don't need to doctor, sis. Making chap, making slaps. 181 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,680 All right. Anyway, nice. 182 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,760 Don't list that with silence. That was the last episode, bro. 183 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,640 That's the new thing. That's the new thing. 184 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,680 No, that's the new thing. Whenever everyone makes a makes, 185 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,120 just throws a Hail Mary. Just let that one. 186 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,000 Let that one simmer in the. Atmosphere. 187 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,680 So at the time, at the time, like, yeah, Sharp was very much 188 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:11,720 like, I feel like it was like it had already started for sure. 189 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,440 Like it was a thing, but like, it was like, now you know what's 190 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,600 going to happen next. Like after. 191 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah was everything. So, so you see Boutros then. 192 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Ah, brah. I remember us working in the 193 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,400 studio with him. Yeah, I remember bro. 194 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,320 Me. I was, I'm not going to lie 195 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,320 some. I was hungry like the moment. 196 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,080 I was like because because bro, I really wanted to work with 197 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,480 Boutros, man. And I remember that first time 198 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,360 he came to the Stew, I was just like, I went home and I made 199 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,760 beats. Forever. 200 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,920 Like I just made so many beats man, and I was listening to them 201 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,280 yesterday and like a lot of them sucked. 202 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:55,800 But luckily, like there was there was the the too late one 203 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,600 and there was no no should I break the 4th wall. 204 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,280 The Formula One beat like I had to rework that one just so that 205 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,560 like it sounds more modern. Because remember, this is music 206 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:10,440 that was made three years. Ago. 207 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,840 So I had to like just to say and I'm not. 208 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,680 I'm not. I'm not. 209 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,200 I'm not. I'm not trying to to to pander 210 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,280 too much to affirm. But then that really that was 211 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,840 like a really dope thing where he's like farm. 212 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,840 I have to reproduce and he didn't just do like one version. 213 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Like bro did multiple versions of the song to make sure that he 214 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,800 got the one which was OK with like producers don't usually do 215 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,160 that. That's that's like they take the 216 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,800 lazy way out or the artist likes the song. 217 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,400 All right, we are good with it but guys like farm now and and I 218 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,360 understand it. It's like we made that in 20 219 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,520 whenever. Bro, I felt like my reputation 220 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,960 was on the on the line as well because like, I didn't want a 221 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,000 song like I did. Like, sure, like the way I 222 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,520 produced in 2021 was OK, but like, I didn't. 223 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,560 That's not representative of me today. 224 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,240 But anyway, this isn't about me. This is about butcher. 225 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,160 It is. And so like I remember, I 226 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,000 remember some like, remember the listening party. 227 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,960 You were there for the listening. 228 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 229 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 230 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,640 And and just like he told the story of Tindo and everything. 231 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,960 Was such a. Different person today. 232 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,880 Were you there? You aren't there, You. 233 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Aren't there when they came to listening to do the listening 234 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:20,680 part. Yeah. 235 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:22,400 I just don't remember. At at Oh, no. 236 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:22,720 No. Yeah. 237 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:22,960 Yeah. Yeah. 238 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:23,720 I remember. I remember. 239 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:24,640 I remember. I remember he was. 240 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,480 We were we were at downstairs right where it was just all of 241 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,240 us in there. Yeah. 242 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:28,840 OK Yeah. Yeah. 243 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,320 And then all those guys came. Guys for Boom Blake in a jinx. 244 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,000 Yeah, yeah, all those. Yeah, I remember it. 245 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,600 Was fine, bro. And see, we're such different 246 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,760 people now because of me. I remember at that time I was 247 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,960 really just an intern. And I remember I couldn't talk 248 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,440 to anyone like me. I was just only talking to you 249 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,080 and Eric. I didn't know anybody, like, so 250 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,680 seeing Buttros then and then seeing him now, obviously in the 251 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:56,560 time in between, like, I remember, bro, things kind of 252 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:00,000 went a little bit quiet. And then like, I was like, OK 253 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,080 was like Butcher's next. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 254 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,760 And then he got like some energy. 255 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,320 And then he released whoa, whoa, whoa. 256 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,560 With Cap produced that one as well. 257 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,760 And I was like, oh bro, maybe he's, he's back. 258 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,560 But then I guess that sound was a little bit too similar to 259 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:17,080 yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he didn't people, he 260 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,360 didn't really catch fire like that. 261 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,560 It didn't really catch it. Caught a little bit of fire, but 262 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:24,880 not that much. And then obviously Angela came 263 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,080 out shut out to. Catch seat on the beat. 264 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,800 It's my guy and. Shout out to taxi and CC. 265 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Yeah they all say that that was that was like a that was one of 266 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,200 the mistake joints like like that was that was not a planned 267 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,600 let's sit down and. Workout It was never planned 268 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,280 like and that's the crazy thing about the music industry. 269 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,320 But like now seeing the the success, like I was reading an 270 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,480 article about how that song is doing massively in Oceania in 271 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,000 Fiji. Just like that whole region, 272 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,520 like people are making TikTok dances. 273 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,320 People are making so much content, obviously. 274 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,200 Honestly if I'm if I'm in butcher's team, I'm suggesting 275 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,640 yo why don't you just go to her there and see what happens? 276 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,760 Because they seem to love him over there. 277 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,240 But that isn't that crazy though, Sam. 278 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,120 Like that somebody can like just like like in front of your eyes 279 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,520 transform into like. Yeah, but you can tell though. 280 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,520 You can tell like when, when? Like when, when, when you're. 281 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,440 I haven't been in the studio with him as much, but you guys 282 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,800 have and and but you guys, I mean like the people who we 283 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,120 worked with on that album. And it's all the same stories. 284 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Like this guy is his his number one on the one he seems to 285 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,720 really care about his craft in the sense that he's he's active 286 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,640 he's an active musician. There's there's different types 287 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,880 of musicians the people that musicians are very passive where 288 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,960 they just allow that they all they bring is like the talent 289 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,040 and they're like OK I've written I'm going to write but his 290 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,480 active is like OK let's do this let's do this or let's change 291 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:59,280 this let's you know and and people who do that it's extra 292 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,680 legs for them and we've seen him like we've so he's and to top 293 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,040 that off he has he still sounds well I don't know if you if you 294 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,840 had hunger on them did the album but I think he's he's chilling a 295 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,760 bit like witches is is is is he's having fun. 296 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,280 He's a fun guy. He's having fun. 297 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,040 He's having fun now. Yeah, he's. 298 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 He's being more himself. Now yeah, but but, but there was 299 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,960 a lot of hunger back then. Like yo, I'm coming to the 300 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,920 studio. What are you doing? 301 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Let's let's throw on a beat. Let me hear something. 302 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,120 Let me hear something else. So yeah, it's cool and it's cool 303 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,560 to see, man. He's he's definitely on a 304 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:35,080 trajectory and his his credibility he's is that the 305 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,560 word I wanted to use what's the word that we used for And we're 306 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,440 talking about coal his legacy he's he's building that up. 307 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,160 He's building, yeah, he's building. 308 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,000 He's building that up. So man, it's really cool to see 309 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,360 and. Obviously they had the whole 310 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,080 bro. And then look at all the 311 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,280 collaborations, bro. Like, it's kind of insane. 312 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,560 It's kind of insane. OK, let me just. 313 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,880 OK, listen, let me just list off these collaborations and then 314 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:04,480 maybe we can move on. But bro like Ben Soul had the 315 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,080 band. Boom. 316 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:12,840 Joshua Baraka, Rizzicki Major NSG and Calligraph Jones Quiz. 317 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:23,280 Timmy Blanco Bakro G, Fenagitu, Savara and Fathermore VB Blinky 318 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:29,880 Bill, Ice Prince Jovi, Jov AJ from Brooklyn Boys and Black 319 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,560 Viking Bro. That's a that's a full project 320 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,480 too. It's a. 321 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Full project, OK. It's a full one. 322 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,960 I mean, there's an argument I saw online that may, you know, 323 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,080 maybe the the collaborations were a bit much because there 324 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,640 was only like, how many songs were there that were just 325 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,280 buttress. Yeah, 123. 326 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,120 But you see, yeah, yeah. There were three songs that were 327 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,240 just Buttress by himself. Which you see but but you see 328 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,760 The thing is I'm not mad. I'm not mad at at the features 329 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,240 you're not mad at especially since he gave us, he gave us. 330 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,119 I mean he's given us like a couple of projects in between 331 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,839 like EPS and stuff right. And there's probably been 332 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:12,040 majority him on them. So it's it's not like he's he's 333 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:17,079 afraid to to to be himself or to to what do you call it to 334 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:18,760 release music. That's just him on it. 335 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,800 So I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. 336 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,960 Of course it would be good to see a really good butcher's 337 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,720 project where he's just going and he's just rapping and doing 338 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,160 what he's doing. But his sound as is evolving and 339 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,960 it's more Afro. I mean, it's more of that 340 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,520 dancehall, Afrobeat type style. And I would think that for that, 341 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,920 like maybe he might want more features on it. 342 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,800 So I'm not mad at a team having all of those features. 343 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,880 If I'm them me, I just go and like feature on like one of 344 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,600 these Oceania peoples. Like I know they have rappers 345 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,280 out there in Fiji. Yeah, and and everything. 346 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,280 You just go feature, bro. See what happens, bro, see what 347 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,800 happens. Become worldwide. 348 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,200 Yeah man, shout out to him. Shout out to him. 349 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,200 Shout out to the team with Sao and everyone there at AT. 350 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,960 Is it ADF? Bro, that's why. 351 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,880 Yeah, at ADF, yeah. I mean and shot, bro. 352 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,880 That's why you need like a dope team. 353 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,800 Because like you, you need a visionary and you need somebody 354 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,800 who can like actually put things in motion. 355 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:17,800 So bro, like, if anything, this just shows me that like like a 356 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,760 duel of an artist and a manager. Like when they just gel 357 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,200 perfectly. Log in. 358 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,120 Unstoppable, Unstoppable. But yeah, shout out to them. 359 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:33,040 Shout out to Mintendo. Out now, man. 360 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:36,760 Sam. Out in your earlobes. 361 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:43,680 Sam, bro, we need to talk about this because like honestly, I 362 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,520 don't know what's going on this this is a mess. 363 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,440 Our our music industry is a mess. 364 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,880 And the reason why I'm saying this is because. 365 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,560 Shambles. OK, what should I start with? 366 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,160 Let's start with this. So I I find an article about 367 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Kekobo saying that they're forced to advertise for fresh 368 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,320 CMO licenses amidst court drama. So this guys. 369 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,880 So just listen to this. Just a week after the High Court 370 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,200 barred Kenya Copyright Board AKA Kekobo from extending 371 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,760 operational licenses of MCSK Camp and Prisk, the regulator 372 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,000 has now placed an open invitation from companies that 373 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,800 possess the appropriate competence to function as ACMO 374 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,720 to send in applications. So essentially what's happening 375 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,240 right now in the Kenyan music industry is what is it This is 376 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:42,840 so you think You Can Dance. This is, this is, can you give 377 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,080 me any of these like, talent competitions? 378 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 This is America's Got Talent right now? 379 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,640 All these people are now dancing. 380 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,200 They're dancing to see who can be the next CMO. 381 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,880 Like, honestly, what's happening with our music industry, Sam? 382 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,200 Like I've never heard of a a situation where like now they're 383 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,840 saying like, OK, who's going to apply? 384 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,280 Who's going to be the next CMO? Find out next time on The 385 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Kenyan. Music industry on the Kenyan 386 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,480 music industry? No. 387 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,560 So it's. I mean it's real. 388 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,360 This is this is turning this into a free for all at this 389 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,720 point. Like they where is this? 390 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,640 Where is the structure? OK, so let me, let me let me 391 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,800 think about this logically. I think there's two sides to 392 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,920 this One, it looks weird. It looks nuts. 393 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,560 It looks like we don't know what we're doing. 394 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,320 It looks ridiculous. But at this at the same time, I 395 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,200 think this might the only reason I think this would be a good 396 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,120 thing is this might be an opportunity for, you know like 397 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,080 the real ones to stand up like can the real can the real. 398 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,080 Can the real CMO please? Exactly. 399 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,560 Exactly like this is like the opportunity for that. 400 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,960 But other than that farm, this looks nuts. 401 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,640 Just, I wouldn't lie to you. It looks nuts. 402 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,480 It's so nuts. And then with Kekobo. 403 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,560 Yeah, with. Sorry. 404 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,360 With we're looking at we're looking at numbers now like 405 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:10,880 trying to get the the camp had had talked about the, you know 406 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,000 like MCSK did theirs a couple of months ago. 407 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,800 So camp said, all right, our turn. 408 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,600 It's our turn now. Watch this. 409 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,520 Yeah. Watch this. 410 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,800 Exactly. It's like watch this, you guys. 411 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Oh, oh, those are your numbers. All right. 412 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,520 We are doing. So they decided what's this? 413 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,240 They're going to tell us how much money they're distributing 414 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,040 again. Can you All right. 415 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Can we just side note, can we can we agree before we let's. 416 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,320 Before we get to that can we just agree. 417 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,800 I love the accountability, all right. 418 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,920 It's amazing. It's good. 419 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,640 It's it's it helps and it's definitely necessary. 420 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,360 So let's keep that up in the industry. 421 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,320 OK. Accountability 100%. 422 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,000 I give it to all you guys. MCSK except Prisk. 423 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,240 We haven't heard anything from Prisk. 424 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,520 They've been quiet at camp. You know they're like this is 425 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,600 what we're earning. This is what we're giving out. 426 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,880 I like that. But you guys don't realize that 427 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,760 every time you put out numbers, we come out with more questions. 428 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,000 That's what they do. It's. 429 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Very many questions. And we realize how much you're 430 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,320 finale. Like anyone who really looks 431 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,480 deep into it, we just realize, all right, wait, something, 432 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,720 something is kind of off here. And that's exactly what happened 433 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,720 with this whole camp thing. Like something is a little bit 434 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,680 off. We don't know. 435 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,480 There's just so many questions, but like like, OK, one, right? 436 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:36,400 How did they arrive at the fact that, OK, so the article says 437 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,200 that of all the 100% of what they are going to distribute, 438 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:48,480 right, 61.59% is going to be given to the artist while 39% is 439 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,120 going to be used for expenses. Now my first question. 440 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,720 Exactly. How do we arrive at 39% being 441 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,120 used for expenses? Like yeah, what determines that? 442 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:02,080 How do we arrive at that number? Yeah, like, like, like, why? 443 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Because like I said, we've even said this before. 444 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,080 In other music industries, for example in America like the CMOS 445 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,280 or whatever, the PR OS will most likely take around 10% for 446 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:19,160 expenses, 90% is is given to the artist, right? 447 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,000 That seems kind of like, OK, that makes sense. 448 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,520 So where do we come up with 40% been taken for expenses, right? 449 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,000 That's step one, Step 2 about like this whole thing. 450 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:37,280 So apparently Camp, the money that they've received from 451 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:45,480 collecting royalties is or accounts for 21% of of the the 452 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,400 total pie that's collected by Prisk, MCSK, and Camp. 453 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Right. The three. 454 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,640 The So now the Big Three. The Big Three. 455 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,880 This. Comes this record, this is comes 456 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,160 this like it's just. Me. 457 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,560 Essentially like motherfucker. The big three just beat me. 458 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,880 Just beat me, Bomb. Yeah, and their bomb is not even 459 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520 that good. They need to relax anyway. 460 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,160 Sorry. Yeah. 461 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,400 So essentially what we're referring to is later on in this 462 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,920 article, Camp kind of says listen, if there's going to be 1 463 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,640 singular CMO, it should be us, like screw, Prisk and FCSK. 464 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Oh, I like this. I like, I like, I like beef. 465 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,000 I like. What do you call? 466 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,320 It I like. Distribution, distribution, 467 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,760 royalty distribution, beef, I'm here for royalty distribution. 468 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:34,880 It's. Camp Kendrick? 469 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,080 It's Camp Kendrick. All right, let's do this. 470 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,960 OK, so, so Prisk is cool because Prisk is cool because they're 471 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,640 quiet and they're CC. We've not heard anything from 472 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,160 them and. MSSK has to be Dick, because 473 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,680 that's the one everybody knows. Yeah, from sorted out, it's 474 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,720 we've cracked the code. We've really cracked this thing 475 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800 up. We've really cracked good 476 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,040 journalism over here. This is good journalism, This. 477 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,320 Is great music journalism, by the way. 478 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:08,960 Anyway, anyway, so. 20%, so, so yeah, so essentially they they 479 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,720 are distributing or they've collected around 21%. 480 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,840 This is the one of the total pie that has been collected from Q1 481 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,600 of 2024. Now the article goes out to out 482 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,280 out goes on to outline that in the whole Q1 of 2024 in Kenya, 483 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,240 131 million Kenya shillings has been collected in royalties, 484 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:38,040 which translates to round about $1 million, which to me is kind 485 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,720 of SAS that it's such a perfect number like, oh, we collected $1 486 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,800 million in Q1, it's too perfect. But anyway, that's just me being 487 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,440 like a crazy person. Like, why did they collect 488 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,680 exactly $1 million? What would you have 998,727? 489 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,360 It's 1,000,000, it's 1,000,000, bro. 490 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,600 But anyway, so now this is the questions that come into mind, 491 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,200 right? So if we can just do like some 492 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,600 quick maths, very like basic elementary maths projections, 493 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Yeah. Yeah, assuming that in Q1 we 494 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,840 were able to generate 1,000,000 and Q1 isn't really like a high 495 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,360 music consumption time period, right? 496 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,720 More people consume music like towards the end. 497 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,200 So we can, there's more drops in stuff, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 498 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:31,400 So we can fairly assume that one million can go across the board 499 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,160 all quarters. So we can say that essentially 500 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,760 in the year Kenya could potentially generate $4 million 501 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,680 worth of royalties in music, right? 502 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,560 That's a fair assumption, right. I mean now A+B is equal to CI 503 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,760 guess, yes. Yeah. 504 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,720 So that translates to round about 500 million Kenyan 505 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,160 shillings. Those numbers are kind of funny. 506 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,200 Not not funny. I I would, I would hope they're 507 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,680 real. Hey, it's the numbers that 508 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,560 they're giving us. So let's work with what we're 509 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,960 which by the way, Sam, if we're being realistic, this is very 510 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,440 dangerous because look, those numbers look high. 511 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,720 But if they're giving us those numbers, I feel like it's 512 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,000 higher. I feel like what's actually been 513 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,160 collected. So you're onto something. 514 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,240 I don't know. You're onto something. 515 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,720 And I thought I I that that thought flushed in flashed in my 516 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,160 head. I'm like, but what? 517 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,840 So this is what they've chosen to tell us. 518 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,040 So what don't we know? And we especially since we don't 519 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600 trust, we usually don't trust our systems because they've 520 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,400 proved to us that they're not to be trusted. 521 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,640 So, so here's the thing, right? So 500, 1000 of no, 500 million, 522 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,040 half a billion Kenya shillings worth of royalties can be 523 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,520 potentially collected in the music industry this year. 524 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,280 How are people being sent for 30 Bob in their phone? 525 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,240 Sam, you didn't tell me how that's happening. 526 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Well, see, see, here's the thing. 527 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,000 I I started like, I started out like there somewhere. 528 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,120 I was going, listen, it's all, I don't know, man. 529 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,840 I have no idea. I don't know. 530 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,160 I don't get it. The other frustrating part thing 531 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,440 about this article, it starts by saying So the distribution 532 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:21,240 format for that camp is going to be undertaking in Q1 of 2024 533 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:27,720 will be a hybrid form consisting of a blend of general and 534 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,200 scientific methods. By the way, if I saw that term 535 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,520 scientific methods one more time I'm going to slap somebody, 536 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000 because when MCSK what you mean by? 537 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,800 Scientifically dropped their district. 538 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,360 We saw that. Also they talked about the 539 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,400 general and scientific too. So same bars. 540 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,040 These guys are using the same bars in their. 541 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,280 Same bars, same bro. They're using the same ghost 542 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,440 writer, that's what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right now. 543 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,120 Yeah, and MCSK would have a ghost writer. 544 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,840 Bro, for real. For real. 545 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,640 Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 546 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,440 I mean, I'm. Seriously, you're not doing the 547 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,320 science. You know you know what's 548 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,520 happening. You're not doing the science. 549 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,120 So, so basically they're saying that they'll pay out nine 550 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,160 million Kenya shillings in this Q1 generally, yeah, like it'll 551 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,800 be issued to all the members and then 8 million will be paid 552 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,280 based off of the performance of all of members. 553 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,120 How about you? My question is and maybe 554 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:25,040 17,000,000. For me personally, Sam, maybe 555 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,960 this is capitalist of me, maybe this is capitalist of me, but 556 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,240 why not just pay people what they earned? 557 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,440 No social I. Don't understand. 558 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,320 Like for this please actually explain to me. 559 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,320 Explain to me No, no. Maybe I'm a capitalist, but this 560 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,280 explained to me why if I generated 2 million worth, yeah, 561 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,640 shillings worth of revenue, why can't I just be paid 2 million? 562 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Like this is all a plot to fudge the numbers, That's what. 563 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,320 That's what my brother would say. 564 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,480 Like I can just imagine him saying that this is all a plot 565 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,720 to mess around with the numbers and to make those to make that 566 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,240 39% seem seem legit. First of 39 for 39% for expenses 567 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,480 That I'm still stuck on that Where is that going? 568 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,560 Why is it 39%? How many people are you? 569 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,880 And and I remember Ezekiel Mutwa was asked that question by when 570 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,880 the interview that we're talking about he was asked that question 571 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,480 and he proceeded not to give an answer for that. 572 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,360 So shout out to you Sir, and I'm pretty sure if you ask what's I 573 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,200 don't know if if you ask Angela Dambuki because she's the 574 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,240 chairperson of camp if you asked, I don't know. 575 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,480 Maybe she'll be able to give. She used to go on that same hot 576 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,920 seat and be grilled exactly like like the MCSK guy was grilled. 577 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,880 But this is ridiculous. Sorry I went on a tangent. 578 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,520 This is ridiculous. We need to stop. 579 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,240 We give do they do this in the States? 580 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,840 Do you know whether this is how they do they generally give you 581 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,720 paid what you you? Paid what you you you paid what 582 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,480 you you you generated. Listen, if I generate 1000 in 583 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,360 royalties, fine, pay me my 1000. But if I generate 10,000, pay me 584 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,440 10,000. Like I don't understand why you 585 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120 have to have a blanket thing then have a tea tell. 586 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,200 Me. Tell me though, what do you 587 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,320 think? What do you think are the are 588 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,040 the negatives of of them paying everyone? 589 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,560 Because OK, listen, let's talk about that. 590 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,600 That's what I'm saying. Maybe this is maybe this is 591 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,520 capitalist of me. But like that means like an 592 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,640 artist who generates high revenue, their money is being 593 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:35,280 eaten into to to kind of like accommodate for the rest of the 594 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,520 people which would be which I understand, especially like when 595 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,400 it comes to things like what am I going to say like I would 596 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,120 understand if that's just like the only thing that was 597 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,240 happening like but The thing is, The thing is I feel like they're 598 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,560 using this as a way to kind of offset the money that should be 599 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,920 paid to the smaller artists, right. 600 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,320 By paying. So. 601 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,040 So essentially what's happening is money is being taken by these 602 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,400 collective, the CMOS, right? Like they're not paying out what 603 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,600 they need to be paying out. Yeah, interesting. 604 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,960 Now there's a vacuum. How do we pay the people who we 605 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,080 should be paying that money that we've paid? 606 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,560 Let's take general from the people who generate, right? 607 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,720 Yeah. So like, let's take that money 608 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,720 from the people who generate a lot of money and then spread it 609 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,000 thin with the other people. So. 610 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,880 So that's what's essentially happening, you know? 611 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,000 Am I making sense? You know what? 612 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,760 To solve this, we need new laws. We need new copyright laws. 613 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,400 We need new. We need new laws. 614 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,120 This this can't continue. This is weird. 615 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,160 But some this is now the problem. 616 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,320 It's now back to the original article. 617 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:54,480 Right now Kobo are said to So listen, the licenses for this 618 00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:00,200 three CMOS, Prisk, MCSK and Camp expire on May the 8th. 619 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,960 Yeah, right. And now it's coming up. 620 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,840 Kobo is set to to host this so you think You Can Dance or who 621 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,240 wants to be the next CMO, right? They're set to hold this new 622 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,880 like application process right now. 623 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,480 What happens like in a in an already fucked up system, right, 624 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880 Like now? I mean, I don't mean I don't 625 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,680 know all this legal stuff, but I would imagine finding the next 626 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,880 CMO that will be the one, right? It's going to be like a long 627 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,440 protracted process. There has to be so many things 628 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,680 put in place ETCETC. So now in a system that's 629 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,880 already not paying out what it needs to do or to pay out to 630 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,160 people, right, we're taking away this small semblance of like 631 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,960 organization, trying to fill that in with a new one, right? 632 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,200 And it's going to it's going to be a shit show. 633 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:57,520 So essentially now this 500 million Kenya shillings that's 634 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,040 been collected, which by the way, let me tell you guys, it 635 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,360 will be perfectly collected. I can guarantee you that that 636 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,280 money will still be collected, right? 637 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,280 But now that these are the three CMOS will will be barred from 638 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,440 like potentially barred from collecting those royalties and 639 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,840 distributing them, right. Yeah, that I feel like that 640 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,639 money is just going to end up like just going an account. 641 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,040 Like imagine like you. Like while, while they figure 642 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,000 out. Who's going to be watching? 643 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,520 What if the Yeah, watch of The Desire. 644 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,239 All right, so we're going to pick one for sure in 20/25/2026. 645 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,920 What do artists do between now and then? 646 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,800 Like, do we just sit around and wait for you guys to get your 647 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,320 acts together, or do we? This is ridiculous. 648 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,239 You all need to get yourselves together. 649 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,480 There needs to be someone in the government who has a little bit 650 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:51,199 of desire to see art work and actually try and get these 651 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,960 things organized. Because the way it's going now, 652 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,920 hey, I can't. I can't predict. 653 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,920 I not predict. I can't see artists benefiting 654 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,680 the way they're supposed to for a long, long time. 655 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,160 This is, it's this is a big mess. 656 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,120 It's a big. Mess. 657 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,280 It's ridiculous. Guys. 658 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,160 Listen. You know, things like sound, 659 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,680 sound, exchange, ETC. Let's just do your research into 660 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,360 those things, because our systems here are just like. 661 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,800 They're not set up. They're not set up. 662 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560 I mean it looks like, it looks like the pot is staring at least 663 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,520 it looks like people are trying to show out whatever it is. 664 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,120 But all of this is just like they're they're they're showing 665 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,360 out for the wrong reasons. They're showing out. 666 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,680 MCSK is telling us oh look at how much we paid to artists. 667 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,720 Look at how much and look at what we're doing for the for 668 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:46,040 Bill and Ezekiel Mcdois championing look at our moral 669 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,160 grounds and that's great. And then camp is coming out 670 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,720 talking about here we are the. Motherfuck the Big Three. 671 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,280 It's just me. It's just big. 672 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Me and your numbers are just as weird as the other two. 673 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,480 Or we don't know what what comes not come what Prisk. 674 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,760 See, I'm even forgetting that there's a Prisk. 675 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,200 Number The truth is, who even knows if 131 million was even 676 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,840 collected in the first three months? 677 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,960 No one knows. We don't know. 678 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,480 We don't know. This is, this is false 679 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,040 accountability is what they're giving us. 680 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,600 They're this is consumer facing. This is what this is. 681 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,840 This is ridiculous. Like the game is angry. 682 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,560 Like, like, like, listen. Like the numbers that they're 683 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040 saying they collect could be an extreme lie. 684 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,120 Now walking off of that lie, we're also being lied to about 685 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,680 how much that they're taking, like, and why they're taking 686 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,840 what they're taking. So we're just being lied to. 687 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,120 Like it's it's like compounded lies. 688 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,480 Like it's like some, I don't know how to explain it. 689 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,480 It's like if I, if I, if I say some bro I bought, I bought 20 690 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,080 mangoes, right. But actually I bought 30 And 691 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,760 then I say, but some you know what we'll do? 692 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,520 We'll divide that 205050, right? Yep. 693 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,080 Or I'll say, you know what? Because of my hard work like him 694 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,600 getting goes mangoes, I'll take 60 and you'll you'll take 40. 695 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,840 Now, you might think that's fair. 696 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,960 But listen, I've already fudged the numbers from the beginning. 697 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,720 You know what I. Mean. 698 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:19,680 So I'm like, I'm here like I'm here like that The little. 699 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,040 Yeah exactly. While you your it's nasty 700 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,360 businessman. It's disgusting. 701 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,960 But then you need to ask Alpha, Wait, but why do you think that 702 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,240 because you went out to buy the mangoes, you deserve 60% or 703 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:34,160 like. Like you do. 704 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,600 You know what I mean? Like, maybe that number should 705 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,720 be 55. Maybe it should be 70. 706 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,040 Like, how do you, like, what do you used to come up with 707 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,720 arbitrarily came up with? Yeah, you know what I mean? 708 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:45,280 Like and you know. I feel like they came up with 709 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,080 that number of salaries. How much are we going to pay our 710 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,200 people? And then let's add expenses on 711 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,080 top of that. Oh, we need a technological 712 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,960 budget, and I'm pretty sure there was. 713 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,040 Second, we need a technological budget or what? 714 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,720 We need whatever maintenance fee. 715 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,320 You know, all the all the weird fees that they start adding on 716 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,760 this. And then after that they're 717 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,320 like, OK, and then let's just add like 5% on top for for any 718 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,040 in case of any emergencies and whatnot. 719 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,480 Oh, we've arrived at 39%. Oh well, I guess this is the 720 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,600 number then. It's ridiculous. 721 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,920 You're need to. This is why my own. 722 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,160 This is like artists. Artists and moving like, oh, we 723 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,800 can move into it. I see what you did there, bro. 724 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,920 That's an amazing segue. That's an amazing segue. 725 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,960 People are really people are really trying to. 726 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,280 They're trying to. I mean at this point like it's 727 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,360 just educate yourself on the music business and just on that 728 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,520 point there's a lot of, if you really look, segue, suffer. 729 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,160 Sorry. Nothing. 730 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160 You know, I listen to this back. I listen to it back. 731 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:47,920 So you can't run away. I said you're the Segway surfer, 732 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,640 you know, like the Subway surfer in the Segway Surfer. 733 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,960 Anyway, you are telling us about my own day, my own day. 734 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,120 So, no. So before you get into that, so 735 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,960 there's a lot of, if you really look closely, there's a lot of 736 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,920 small initiatives being done around Nairobi. 737 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:15,840 There's like, like I know for about a there's like an IP 738 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,120 workshop that's been done. It's by by I think it's by 739 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,080 Harvard, actually, if I'm not wrong, there's an IP workshop 740 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,080 that's been done by Harvard. It's it's ongoing. 741 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440 It's almost towards the end, but it's ongoing where there's like 742 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,920 people who are experts, lawyers, IP lawyers come and teach about 743 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,000 intellectual property and how to go about that. 744 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,280 There's different, different education. 745 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,800 I've seen maybe two or three already different education 746 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,000 initiatives that have been done, so if you're really interested, 747 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,400 it's really not difficult information to find out. 748 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,040 Google it. I wish I had all of them in 749 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,800 front of in front of me. I would have told you I'd 750 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,080 probably go research them, but. Well, there's also the Perform 751 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,880 Incubator. Yes, yes. 752 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,360 Yeah. So that's actually one of the 753 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,280 ones I'm talking about. So my under, my under was 754 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,040 probably read this news like beforehand. 755 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,240 It's just like fab. You know it. 756 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,680 I am going to learn about this myself, so shout out to her. 757 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,640 Shout out to everyone who is, who is that? 758 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,000 I don't really have much on that. 759 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,360 It's just shout out to everyone who is really trying to to go 760 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,360 and learn and so that we can have people who come back with 761 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,480 different knowledge because the knowledge we have now is not it. 762 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,080 It's just not working. It's old school. 763 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,040 It's archaic. It's it's ridiculous, she says. 764 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200 I've, I've been in school. I was part of a program called 765 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,480 the PMI Performance Perform Music Incubator that was founded 766 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,200 by Muthoni, the drama queen, which is really cool Muthoni is 767 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,800 doing. Shout out to MDQ. 768 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,200 For the music business, It's a music Business School and I've 769 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,680 been in in it for about 3 years learning about the business side 770 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,800 of music. I was very frustrated as an 771 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,040 artist, an artist with an E at the end, because that's fancy. 772 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,040 I'd been doing music, but I wasn't getting any meaningful 773 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,360 returns. So I went to school to learn how 774 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,640 to grow my brand and use it to make money and understand the 775 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,360 business side of music. And it's it's learning about in 776 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,920 learning about about your brand, learning about these things. 777 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,920 You begin to learn because it's attached to the music industry, 778 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,960 right. So you begin to learn a lot 779 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,120 about the music industry and how to move within the music 780 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560 industry. And then you then you learn, you 781 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,080 then learn about what happens because I think they would use a 782 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,160 lot of examples of things that have worked, right. 783 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,440 So what happens when you actually have systems in place? 784 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160 And then now, when your eyes are open to that, when you're awoke, 785 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:36,280 when you're awake, then you can now see, OK, this is where our 786 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,840 industry is lacking. And if you have that passion, 787 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:48,400 you can either one enact change yourself or connect and and 788 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,120 mobilize the people who can who can enact the change. 789 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,920 So I'm all for this man. Shout out to her with only the 790 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,560 drama queen who is apparently is seems to be the one who is 791 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,680 spearheading that it was founded by her and everyone who the 792 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,480 different lawyers who are really looking to educate a lot of 793 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,600 people about the music industry. It's it's necessary bro. 794 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,440 Because where we are, farm, farm, they're treating, they're 795 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,560 treating music royalty collections like a dating, like 796 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040 one of these Netflix dating shows is what they're treating 797 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,240 like that's where we're headed, bro, anyway. 798 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,120 Love is Blind CMO Edition. That's what this is, man. 799 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,640 This is ridiculous. Bro, what is? 800 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,560 That's how they're determining who the next CMO will be. 801 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,360 Get into a room, but you can't see each other. 802 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,040 You can just fall in love and marry after after what, get 803 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,600 engaged after what, one week? Yeah. 804 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,720 That's why it's wired. By the way how do this, all 805 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:44,080 this. First of they're very 806 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,960 entertaining. I think they're entertaining 807 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,480 because a lot of people don't have lives out here. 808 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,040 We're we're just, we're we're living vicariously through them. 809 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,520 I love. I love trash TV man CMO Island. 810 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:03,880 Who will be the next CMO? Oh man, we need prayers. 811 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,040 We need we need prayers. Either we need prayers, we need 812 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,720 prayers or just a nice beating. Like they just need to bend us 813 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,280 over and get a paddle and walk us on our bottoms. 814 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,280 Is that weird to say? Do you know who else needs 815 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,400 prayers some? Who needs prayers, bro? 816 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,840 Ben Soul and Cindy K Man, have you heard the are? 817 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,360 We doing this. Bro, yes, we're doing this. 818 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,680 We're doing this. So listen, Ben Soul. 819 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,720 Ridiculous. Anyway, so listen, listen, 820 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:33,640 listen. Anyway, there was just like an 821 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,640 interesting article I saw about him and his relationship with 822 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640 Cindy K, and it's actually. It's all you ISO, this ISO, this 823 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,880 ISO and alpham let's. Listen. 824 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,680 No, no, no, no. It's just that the web, the web 825 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,520 of lies. The web of mistrust, the web of 826 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,680 of just like exes, it's it's it's immense. 827 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,000 You know like Ben Saul with Cindy K but Cindy K happened to 828 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:01,480 be Ben Saul's ex's best friend. And then Cindy K was dating Shaq 829 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,720 the Yanging. But then she cheated on Shaq the 830 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:07,960 yanging with Shaq the Yanging's best friend. 831 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,600 I mean the centre of this web of lies and web of like the. 832 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,920 Nairobi, But like the streets. Goodness the streets, Nairobi. 833 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,400 Anyway, that's just me being silly. 834 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,080 No, no. But that was wild. 835 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,120 That's kind of wild, man. That's kind of wild. 836 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,880 It's kind of, it's such a weird story. 837 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,960 It's. Honestly, I don't even be 838 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,080 knowing these people. I can tell you for a fact like 839 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,840 reading this article is the first time I heard of Cindy K So 840 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,000 I I don't even be knowing this like drama, but like it. 841 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,360 It seems like it's interesting, right? 842 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,880 Would you date? Would you? 843 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,920 Would you Would you date your best friend's ex? 844 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,880 No, no. Why not? 845 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,080 What's the code behind that? What's the code behind that? 846 00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:01,040 There is broke. There is a solid bro behind not 847 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:02,280 going back. You know what I. 848 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,880 Realized I realized that the bro code is only within the Bros, 849 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,400 like a lot of the times they don't be caring as much as we 850 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,720 do. Nah, listen me. 851 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:15,240 I care like if it if it's my if it's my bro ski and this is 852 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:19,720 somebody he was dating right. I'm not going back there like 853 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:23,880 for anything like you could. There's no even at at going to 854 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,160 ask them at yo by day yo, I'm. Talking. 855 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not not going to check the 856 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:30,720 temperature. See, see, see if the streets are 857 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:31,720 clear. You're not doing that. 858 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,960 There's no checking the temperatures. 859 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,800 There's nothing like that. So me personally, I think it's 860 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,280 kind of weird doing that. But like, hey, listen, I'm not 861 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,360 the custodian of relationships. You all do what you want to do. 862 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:48,000 So anyway, new music, Sam. Speaking of custodian of 863 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,680 relationship, I thought that's what you're going to do. 864 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,800 All right, new music, Dan. What was he listening to? 865 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,880 Of course Butcher's dropped shout out to him with this. 866 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,920 Is this his debut album now for for sure, Because he's been 867 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:00,400 saying. It is. 868 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,240 It is. This is. 869 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,720 Like 5 debut albums. Already. 870 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,920 No, no, no, no, no, no. This is the debut. 871 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,960 Let's do umoja sounds. Umoja sounds Frederick Muller 872 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,120 Dang provoke. And I think there's someone else 873 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,520 in that group, if I'm not wrong, but I hope I'm not wrong. 874 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,600 I'll be really, really awkward if I'm wrong. 875 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,600 But they dropped a project called Umoja Sounds Presents 876 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:30,080 Flavour and that is it has it. It features Frederick Mullen and 877 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,080 BT really good joints on there. I like the last song. 878 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,440 It was very instrumental, very chill. 879 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,960 It's very unexpected. But they did what they did. 880 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,360 Friend for Life by Papa. I really enjoyed that song. 881 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,400 It's different. It's different. 882 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,400 It's different. It's cool. 883 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,320 I don't know if you if you if you peeped. 884 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,600 Did you peep? Yes, yes, you put me on and 885 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,360 yeah, love the I love the guitars, Those guitar. 886 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,480 Yes, I love the guitars. That was cool. 887 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,680 Yeah. VB and Steph Capella give give 888 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,840 us a a scorcher a heater called Nisawa. 889 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,120 I've, I've found that song so funny, bro. 890 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,320 Because, like, it's just funny, yeah. 891 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,360 That was cool. I. 892 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:14,080 Don't know I I just I I like the the, the message like you know 893 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,360 like is that the person you're moving on with like. 894 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,640 Is that is that the best guy? Cool. 895 00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:23,560 Cool Cool story bro. Cool story bro. 896 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,640 Let's see. For Mr. Frank White, Big Man, 897 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,600 Sabi Wu, they released Ziza Wadi manga. 898 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,720 It's actually part of a project, I think, for Mr. Frank White. 899 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,640 I listened to the project, it was it was pretty cool. 900 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,960 There were a couple of songs I I rocked with on there. 901 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:45,280 X-ray Tanua and Silverstone bars with AZ release a song called 902 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,200 Rich. That was interesting. 903 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,200 Diva Mr. Seed Afram, you really liked this one, didn't? 904 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,280 You. Yeah, I've. 905 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,960 I've fucked with it, man. Like Tipsy G Sean and MG. 906 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,040 Urban Tone. Urban Tone is still doing its 907 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,080 thing clearly. Yeah, these guys are sampling 908 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,520 anything and everything. Like me. 909 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,520 I'm getting. I'm getting a bit. 910 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,320 You know, listen. Because Rich was rich was also 911 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,880 rich by Gasolina. Was that Gasolina? 912 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,800 Of of was. Was that Gasolina that they saw? 913 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,360 Yes, yes, they just straight up, Sam. 914 00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:20,080 Listen, me, I told you, I'm I'm in this urban tone thing for 915 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,120 right now where it's vibes we're enjoying. 916 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,600 Listen, why are we thinking about the future? 917 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,040 Don't think about. Don't think about it now. 918 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,080 And now what's happening is we're enjoying it and that's all 919 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,920 that cool. Anyway, yeah, it's Yabba who 920 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,760 released his his project called Zita Kazo Pandua. 921 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,360 He's been releasing a whole bunch of singles for a minute 922 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,880 now, so it's good to see the project out. 923 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,800 I need to sit down and give that a nice listen. 924 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,200 That's cool. Afam, what were you? 925 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,160 What are you rocking with? What? 926 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,720 What did you? There was Craze Man by Guido and 927 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,360 Caleb Awiti. Nigerian. 928 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,640 I think. That's that Kenya Niger 929 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,920 connection. Shout out to that connection. 930 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,480 There was what they heard by basic City and Rumbi and Tihani. 931 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,640 Yeah, so shout out to them as well. 932 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,000 What else did I listen to? Oh Kamasi way by Kanji and 933 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,880 Pambi. Oh yo. 934 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,360 I was actually like see, seeing kanji like on the on the 935 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,040 playlist was really dope and really nostalgic. 936 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,240 And I yo. Actually, before I even expand 937 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:31,200 on that, I also listened to Bury My Face by Boy Lee Tyru three 938 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,920 Punch and DJ Prod Luigi and I just wanted to shout them out 939 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,480 because like it was kind of interesting like the high 940 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,800 pitched sample and then not sample but like the vocals. 941 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,280 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 942 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,960 And very, yeah, I like, I like that experimental. 943 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,000 But yeah, yeah, back to Kamasi way. 944 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,680 I think that was my favorite release. 945 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:54,240 This. That's 517 of course, aside from 946 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:55,360 Tinder and the music I worked on. 947 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,000 But like, this one was really nice and yes, unexpected. 948 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,200 I mean, it's it's gospel music. It's just really. 949 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,560 Honestly, we realized we haven't really played much gospel on 950 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,480 this project. It's not. 951 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,600 Not because we don't listen to well we haven't really played 952 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,520 much gospel on this project so it'd be good just to feature and 953 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,680 we're not we're not this is not and this is not for me. 954 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,160 This is not like we're we're just featuring a gospel song to 955 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,720 to check the the inclusion box. But the song was generally good 956 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:21,480 on Kanjin Bogo is a very good songwriter. 957 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,840 The production was also really, really decent. 958 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,120 There's a lot of guitars on that joint. 959 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,280 A lot of guitars. So yeah we I'll pick this week 960 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,160 there's I mean there's a lot of other music listen go check. 961 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,960 There's people like there's people making playlists on 962 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,440 Canyon music. Yeah. 963 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,040 Yeah, they're all over. If you look for them, you'll 964 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,520 find them. But it's really cool to keep up 965 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,800 with what's happening. What's been released anyway. 966 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,800 Kamasi. Where? 967 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,320 By Kanjin, Bugua and Pambio. If I'm pronouncing that right, 968 00:50:50,920 --> 00:52:10,320 that is the song we're playing. I 969 00:52:20,920 --> 00:53:00,320 the, the, 970 00:53:40,320 --> 00:54:21,240 the I come on. 971 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,280 That was Kamasi way by Kanji and Pam Leo shout out to them. 972 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,000 That's going to be what are the churches all over? 973 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:02,720 I'm. Sure. 974 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:06,480 All over the country I'm sure. Oh Sam I I briefly I forgot to 975 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,240 mention there was also another song that came out called 976 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,440 Underwater. There was a music video with 977 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,160 Benzema and Sabi Wu. So shout out to both of them for 978 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:23,160 releasing Yo Sam. That was episode 77 of the 30% 979 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,320 podcast. Shout out to you. 980 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,160 The thing shout out to you as well. 981 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,800 Oh no. The thing I'm not feeling the 982 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,000 most is. Oh, I'm sorry. 983 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:35,960 Go ahead. I'm sorry. 984 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,320 I'm sorry. That was rude of me. 985 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,400 That's hilarious. All right. 986 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,800 But yeah, the vibe I'm just leaving this podcast with is 987 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,040 man, our CMOS. Just you don't need to apply for 988 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,880 the dating show. They shouldn't even be apply. 989 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,520 They shouldn't even be a big three at this point. 990 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,720 Who should? Yo Kanye should just come and 991 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,840 say yo listen, this is actually, we didn't talk about it. 992 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,640 We didn't touch that angle. But this is also a perfect 993 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,120 opportunity for. People outside to come in and 994 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,480 and. Take the whole beef some. 995 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,920 Oh, we didn't talk about the beef. 996 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,440 Oh man, it didn't. But but listen, it's getting 997 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,240 messy. It's getting messy right now 998 00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:13,240 bro. Like me personally, I think 999 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,720 Drake's. I know you think it's made, but 1000 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:19,080 I think Drake. 'S both Drake and Ross. 1001 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,920 Was fire that Drake delivered. In my opinion, Drake delivered. 1002 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,000 Yes, I know. He did deliver. 1003 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,320 No, he did deliver. He delivered in, in the sense 1004 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,600 that he addressed, he addressed, he addressed everything. 1005 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,440 I just feel like the song was. And it's 20. 1006 00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:37,200 And listen, it's 20 versus 1. It's like Drake versus everyone. 1007 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,560 J. Cole has bowed out everybody 1008 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,240 shamelessly. Honestly, I think. 1009 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,720 I think, listen, may I think these guys are corny because 1010 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,440 like, like, like no, because listen because these guys waited 1011 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,800 for the big guy as AKA Kendrick to say something. 1012 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,240 Before they start shooting at yeah. 1013 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,640 That's true. Now they're all shooting at him. 1014 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,560 Like, I think that's jumping on the way like the the there was 1015 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,160 those guys. Why? 1016 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,000 Why didn't we cross come out and say this? 1017 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,280 It's those guys you know like when you have a when you had 1018 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,040 fights in high school and and of course I when neither of us got 1019 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,680 into fights and neither of us got into fights. 1020 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,560 But when we see the other guys the the the other the guys that 1021 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,600 rejects having fights and random people jump in just to get their 1022 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,080 frustration of or they hated their homework for last week 1023 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,080 let's let's kick a a bully on the. 1024 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,400 I mean the whoever we're ganging up against on the ground just to 1025 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,680 get that off and say Oh no, yeah, we fought, we fought and 1026 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,760 then stupid just. I really wonder what Drake did 1027 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,200 to all these guys, because they seemingly all. 1028 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,120 Hate him. Drake is suffering from success. 1029 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaking of Speaking of, what's going to happen to DJ Khaled 1030 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,520 because all the people on his next album are fighting against. 1031 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,320 So the bro they're all fighting. They're all DJ Khaled is the 1032 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,600 biggest loser from all of this. By the way, I I feel so bad for 1033 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,320 dude bro. Oh man. 1034 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,760 His next album is just going to be Khaled. 1035 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,200 His might have to take up rapping now. 1036 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,600 Khaled might have to. So he actually might. 1037 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,360 It'll just be like we the best. Exactly. 1038 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,920 The whole project just delays and be the best and maybe go go 1039 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,840 to the girlies now because even the girlies are fighting. 1040 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,040 So I don't know, fam hip this is, hip hop is. 1041 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,480 Hip hop is. They're trying to, they're 1042 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,800 trying to get a little bit out of here. 1043 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,160 That's what these guys are doing. 1044 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,320 So city girls. Are fighting. 1045 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,720 See The thing is, podcast is like in disarray like bro, 1046 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,000 everything is just. Like maybe it has something to 1047 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,560 do with that eclipse. I think it's the eclipse. 1048 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,160 The eclipse activated. Oh man, yeah, let's let's blame 1049 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,720 the eclipse. Eclipse activated, activated 1050 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,480 some problems, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1051 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,800 But anyway, listen, may have picked a side. 1052 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,720 Me, I'm on me, I'm on the side of Mr. Of course Drake. 1053 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,520 Of course Drake. In nature, bro. 1054 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,120 Bro. What a guy, bro. 1055 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,880 I'm going to be the I just want to see everyone rap. 1056 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,240 I actually think this whole thing is corny. 1057 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,440 Like this is ridiculous to me. Like there's a grown men writing 1058 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,240 poems about each other, very aggressive poems about each 1059 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:48,600 other. It's. 1060 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,920 Ridiculous fire. I feel like Hip Hop is back, 1061 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,600 bro. Hip Hop is back in the back, but 1062 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,520 guys, the. Industry is tired of rubbish. 1063 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,320 They've had enough of remma and I restart. 1064 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,920 If you're if you're a conspiracy theorist, that's your take away 1065 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,800 from this, because honestly, this is very happening, 1066 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,800 happening at a convenient time. When hip hop was. 1067 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,560 Kind of waning. So I feel like they're like 1068 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,960 trying to like, make Hip Hop great again. 1069 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,400 Maha. Anyway, anyway, that's that, 1070 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,120 man. Listen, guys, excited. 1071 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,240 Listen, that was episode 72, Guys. 1072 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,800 I like, I've been trying to push man the three CS bro. 1073 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,760 I always want you guys to remember, please, please, please 1074 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,600 be confident in your work. Confidence is key. 1075 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,960 You have to exude that because people can. 1076 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,480 People feed off of your confidence. 1077 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,240 If you're confident about your stuff, even if it's not great, 1078 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,000 people kind of tend to, like, believe in you just based off of 1079 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,560 your confidence. Always be consistent. 1080 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,600 You have to keep on putting on music. 1081 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,400 You have to keep on doing this music thing like because 1082 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,920 honestly, you can't take long hiatuses. 1083 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,760 We're we're living in a time where there's just so many 1084 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,040 people doing music. So. 1085 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,040 Please, please, please be consistent. 1086 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,200 And lastly, guys, work on your craft. 1087 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,800 Work on your crafty craft. Crafty. 1088 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,720 Crafty. Get your thousand thousand 1089 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,680 thousand hours in. Is it 1010 thousand 10,000 hours 1090 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,520 in, Sir? Yeah. 1091 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,040 Work on your craft man, every single day. 1092 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,680 Even if you're doing the smallest thing, that could be 1093 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,160 equivalent to doing just like 5 sit ups. 1094 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,680 Like just do that, you know but in the music industry and you'll 1095 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,480 be good man. If you follow those three CS, 1096 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,160 you will be successful. Before before we sign out, 1097 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,720 thank. You so much for before we. 1098 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,000 Sign out. There's something I've been 1099 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,120 living by and it's actually it's my wallpaper, which I could show 1100 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,440 you. It's not really that 1101 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,760 interesting, it says. It's just a simple quote. 1102 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,160 If there's something you want to do later, do it now. 1103 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,920 There is no later. That is the procrastinators 1104 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,960 medicine right there. The procrastinators around the 1105 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,560 world hate you right now, bro. What? 1106 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,680 Fox It's going to be, it's going to be me if I said the 1107 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,080 procrastinators. But yeah, if there's something 1108 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,880 you want to do, I mean, that's just basically saying, I know 1109 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,200 sometimes we put things off because we're we're we're 1110 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,400 waiting for the right time, we're waiting for the moon and 1111 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,440 the sun to align, we're waiting for whatever it is. 1112 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,120 Those things really happen and a lot of times we're in control of 1113 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,520 our own path. Destiny, right. 1114 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,000 So you doing The thing is making the thing happen. 1115 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,560 Not waiting, is making the thing. 1116 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,520 You doing the thing at the time you thought about doing it is 1117 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,000 the perfect time to do it. Not waiting for a perfect time 1118 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,560 before you do it. I don't know if that makes 1119 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,280 sense, makes a lot of sense in my head, but that is it. 1120 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,360 If there's something you want to do later, do it now. 1121 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:41,800 There is no later and that is 7 T two. 1122 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,080 Shout out to everyone who's listening again, please. 1123 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,160 If you think people, if you know anyone who would benefit from 1124 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,280 these conversations, we really encourage you all to share it. 1125 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,680 This is not that mean OK, we're trying to grow, but but it's 1126 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,320 also partly for the reason I mean for the for the industry to 1127 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,320 start these conversations and have these conversations. 1128 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,960 A lot of people are starting them and having them. 1129 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,560 There's music podcasts cropping up that's talking about this 1130 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,520 stuff. So we really. 1131 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,280 Oh yeah bro. And shout out to shout out to 1132 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,080 Valerie Modoni man for her podcast as well. 1133 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,120 Yeah, there's a lot of podcasts doing this. 1134 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,600 The proof of concept podcast, like listen, For me personally, 1135 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,000 the way I see things is the more people, they are like educating 1136 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,120 people on the music industry, especially using their 1137 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,040 experiences as a platform to to explain kind of this whole 1138 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,800 jumbled up mess that is the Kenyan music industry. 1139 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,040 It's beneficial for me and Sam. It's from our perspective as 1140 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,920 music producers, from Valerie Modonis, from her as an artist, 1141 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,760 as an artist. Another person is super helpful 1142 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,120 from the perspective, from the perspective of a consumer. 1143 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,400 So yeah. And that's that's fire. 1144 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,040 So it's necessary. So shout out to everybody who's 1145 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,280 who's, who's just trying to like do this thing and and and and 1146 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,760 yeah move the the, the, the music industry in a positive 1147 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,200 direction. But Sam, thank you so much for 1148 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,360 being an amazing Co host. I am honoured to be your Co host 1149 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,920 as well. And I will sign out now. 1150 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,240 Yeah, I will sign out now and we will catch you. 1151 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,680 Guys in. On episode 70. 3 facts.