1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 What? Listen, scissors. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,840 If by some twist of fit you're listening to this, listen, I 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,520 produce music. I can help you with your 4 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:08,400 comeback, man. Just listen. 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,440 I'll do the most. I'll do the most man. 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,040 Time into your Kenyan roots for that? 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,000 Oh man, no. Yeah. 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,240 Yeah, imagine how. It'd be interesting, wouldn't 9 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:20,280 it? That would be. 10 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:30,040 It would be so crazy, bro. The. 11 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,960 Yo, what's up? And welcome to episode 71. 12 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:11,400 Yes, we're on the 70s of the 30% podcast hosted by yours truly, 13 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,000 AFAM and my Co host Yours. Rather falsely, Sam. 14 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:26,600 And this is the 30% Podcast, which you can stream on YouTube, 15 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:34,000 Spotify, Apple Podcasts and sadly guys, Google Podcast is 16 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,880 dead. They can't do this to us, man. 17 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:42,160 Queue the Funeral Music. Moment of Silence. 18 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,320 Dead Sam Moment of Silence for for Google podcast. 19 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,720 That's my good. That's my podcast app. 20 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,000 Like, I'm sad. I'm not. 21 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,120 I'm not Sam. I'm not listening to podcasts on 22 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,120 Spotify. I'm so sorry. 23 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,760 Spotify is for music, solely music. 24 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,960 This whole video thing they're doing now, I'm cool. 25 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,960 And their video is laggy by the way. 26 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Sam, could you kindly say a few, say a few kind words for? 27 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,680 I actually don't care that much about Google Podcast, but here 28 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,199 we go. Well, OK, if you wouldn't, I 29 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:10,520 will. I will Google. 30 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,960 What can I say. What an amazing guy. 31 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,760 What a what a what an amazing guy put took me through some of 32 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,880 my highs and some of my lows. I. 33 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Discovered a bunch of really good podcasts on Google Podcast. 34 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,520 They held me down during COVID. No, no, no, no. 35 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,360 I have nice words to say. Google podcasts helped me down. 36 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,320 Held me down during COVID. I tried all the other podcasts. 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Don't step on my No, no, no, no, no. 38 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,480 I would not. I would not let you say you. 39 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,640 You said you didn't have words, so let kindly let me get my shit 40 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,320 off and then you. OK, So yeah, and listen, I 41 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,840 discovered. Is this really what the people 42 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,160 want to hear on there? I loved the user interface. 43 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,200 It was simple. It was very white. 44 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,400 That sounds racist, but OK in general? 45 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,360 Where? Are we going with this? 46 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Podcast We will miss you. You are loved. 47 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,480 Farm. It's just an app, bro. 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,320 It's just an app. It's fine. 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,800 All of this. No one wants to hear you. 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Give a eulogy to Google podcast. It doesn't matter. 51 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,720 I'm pretty sure there is somebody out there who finds 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,680 this a very sentimental moment, and we and for and and if you 53 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,520 were listening to this right now, I am with you. 54 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,600 I like to think our audience is slightly cooler than that, but 55 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,040 all right. Anyway, aside from Google 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:29,360 Podcast, you can also find us on social media at which you can 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,480 find us at. Our ad Is the 30% Pod. 58 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:38,720 Social media in question would be Instagram, X Threads, Tiktok 59 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,600 and LinkedIn. Do you think the other apps are 60 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 like cowering in fear, waiting for their time to be 61 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,760 discontinued? No, Google has. 62 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,600 Wait, Google has been cancelling a lot of things though, so I I I 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,800 get it. Yeah, yeah, Google be cancelling 64 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,560 things, man. Apparently in Google if you're 65 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,840 not successful in like if you're not giving them. 66 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,600 Profits in like I. Don't even know a few months. 67 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,240 But podcasting, like Google Podcast has been has been around 68 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,040 for a minute. So yeah. 69 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,680 But you know what? This is actually very worrying 70 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,240 though. On a serious note, Sam, like 71 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,320 podcasting, is on a downhill trip. 72 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,079 If we are being honest, you think, yes, Not not. 73 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:18,720 I think so. It genuinely is. 74 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,680 If you look at even the layoffs that have been happening in 75 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Spotify, they've really downsized their their, their 76 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,480 podcasting department. They've gone over 200 layoffs on 77 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,920 the podcasting department in Spotify. 78 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,240 Now. Google Podcast has been shut 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,600 down. I don't know. 80 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,040 I think. I think the Industry In 81 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,120 General's focus has completely shifted off of podcasts. 82 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,800 I think the age of podcasting, especially like in the West, I 83 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,560 guess is it's it's it's on its back. 84 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,240 It's done. Yeah. 85 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,120 Oh, well. Anyway, Sam, how have you been? 86 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,120 I speak to podcast as we are on a podcast. 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Dang, how? No, man, we're not doing me. 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,040 How have you been? Bro is out there. 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:05,920 Bro. Bro is. 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Bro is out there living there. What do they call the American? 91 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,720 What do they call that thing? The American Dream? 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Is that what it is? The white picket fans a dog and 93 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,760 a white can. Dream if you're white. 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,640 I'm saying you can only leave it if you're white. 95 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,760 I don't think so. I think anyone can leave. 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,520 There's in there's there's Asians and and and Europeans 97 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,320 that go to America to leave the American dream. 98 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,880 Some of them are not white. Well, the Europeans are. 99 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,040 All right, This is going to be, this is very racy now. 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,960 I don't want to do this. It's. 101 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,920 Uncomfortable. You're taking a hole. 102 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,200 For yourself, it's gone. It's uncomfortable. 103 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,200 What's that meant? How is the? 104 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,320 232. What's the area code? 105 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,280 1. Of course America made itself 106 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:44,400 number one, man. Yo, man, that's such a main 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,600 character country. Such a main character country. 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,520 How is the one? How is the Yeah? 109 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,800 It doesn't even. Sound. 110 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,200 It doesn't sound. How is the one? 111 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,280 The two saying the 254. There's this culture. 112 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:01,240 There's depth to it. How is the one man? 113 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:01,720 What's? What's up? 114 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,360 What's up? What's up? 115 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,320 What's up? What's going on out there? 116 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:10,520 It's been it's been it's been a very eventful past few weeks. 117 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Just been dealing with the whole move and everything, but I 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,720 believe I am settling down well in this good old country called 119 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:27,320 the United States of America. Yeah, man, I'm ready to to, you 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,640 know, get my new life started, I guess. 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 New life. Yeah, looking forward, excited. 122 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Thank you for asking. Yeah, I didn't. 123 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Was there anything else you wanted to know, really? 124 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,000 This whatever information you want to volunteer towards this 125 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,480 weekend now, man, it's just just finding out how you do. 126 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,680 America is OK. I hope you're keeping your head, 127 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,280 your head about you. Yeah, so. 128 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:53,360 So I went on a cruise. I was lucky. 129 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Enough to go. Oh, you're going to leave that 130 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,440 one out, aren't you? Afram was on a cruise. 131 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,200 A big boat. No, I wasn't going to leave it 132 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,760 out. Yeah, I went went on a cruise 133 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,200 and this cruise was departed from Miami and it went to 134 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Dominican Republic as well as the Bahamas. 135 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,040 So yeah, man, I've been out here, man. 136 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Yeah, it's it's just been really good travelling. 137 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,920 Cruise sounds, cruise sounds fun, but then I don't know, man. 138 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,120 Like when it's dark and you're on the outside and it's just 139 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,760 it's just darkness. I don't know. 140 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,320 Oh, trust me, you never you don't really realize you're on a 141 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,080 boat because you know those ships are so huge and and 142 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,440 there's so much activities to do. 143 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,680 Like, you don't even like even at night you don't even realize 144 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,120 you're on a boat like. And because they're so big they 145 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,680 barely like, like, what do you call it, boy? 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Or move around so you don't really like feel. 147 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,920 Really. Ownership. 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,480 I feel like it would be scary, man. 149 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,480 I feel like, I don't know. It's not. 150 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Scary. The ocean is I've not been on 151 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,560 I've not been on water much but the ocean just seems like it's 152 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,160 just it's just not a very. See, I'm not a I'm not a fan of 153 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,480 water and stuff, but like, I wasn't scared the whole time. 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Oh, that's cool. But anyway, if you're inside the 155 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,600 whole time, it's basically it's a it's a hotel on the water. 156 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,520 So it's it's, yeah. Essentially, it's essentially 157 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,080 bad. That's cool. 158 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Let's dope. How about? 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,680 Yourself, bro. What you been up to? 160 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,600 I have been I've in all honesty I've had. 161 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,560 I've had I've had one of the it's just been a really bad run 162 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,240 of weeks but but but we're good man. 163 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,799 Just working, been, you know trying to, trying to get to the 164 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,600 money, trying. To. 165 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:41,360 Survive in this Nairobi? Yeah, Grinding, grinding, as 166 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,720 they say I've been Grinding, grinding. 167 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:46,400 But that's that man, chilling. Anything interesting? 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,840 Nothing much, actually. Nothing interesting. 169 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,560 Yeah, I need, I need to get some excitement in my life. 170 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,600 That's that. OK. 171 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:05,360 I mean that's that's fair. But listen, as much as so I feel 172 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,280 like we've been gone for a while because the, you know most the, 173 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,480 the the past two podcasts have been interviews. 174 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,080 So we haven't really talked about like current events. 175 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,640 So I feel like there's a lot that has happened. 176 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Since we last did like a current 177 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,720 events podcast. One of them being the whole 178 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,960 thing with Davido. Yeah. 179 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,480 So the was just, was, was recently held. 180 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:35,360 And yeah, I mean it looks like the the concert was good. 181 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,040 I guess I've not seen like as many bad opinions as we usually 182 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,440 see when Nigerians come around here. 183 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,720 Like when Davido and and Burner Boy and has Whiskid ever come to 184 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Kenya? It usually is just those three. 185 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,240 Yes, Whiskid has been here. Whiskid came to Kenya even back 186 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,480 in the day before he blew up. Oh yeah. 187 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,640 So yeah, it looks like it looks like Davido, remember? 188 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,120 Did a good show, Sam. Remember, Whiskid was on was on 189 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:09,440 Camp Muller's debut album. Yeah, he Oh my goodness. 190 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,840 He was Oh no, I need to look better. 191 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,320 If not, is the album. Whiskid, whiskid, whiskid, 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,880 whiskid fox with us, man. He's down. 193 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,480 He's he's down with the. He's down with the culture. 194 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:22,200 He's down the well. That was a long time ago. 195 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,840 We've not seen any collaboration since then. 196 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,720 Maybe we need to revive the risk, it said. 197 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,080 Oh, by the way, during the break risk, it said that people stop 198 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,640 telling him he's an Afrobeat artist. 199 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,400 So. Oh, what is he then? 200 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,680 Yeah, he he was actually very rude about it. 201 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:39,640 Like he posted a post like stop calling me an Afrobeat artist. 202 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,920 He was just it's just it's just it's just just I guess he was 203 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,600 maybe that maybe no. Listen, that's actually 204 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,120 triggering. That's triggering. 205 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,560 One thing you can never do is is shit. 206 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,520 On your fan base, these are the guys who who that? 207 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:56,560 Yeah, that gave you your notoriety, man. 208 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:59,040 Why you like, listen, I understand. 209 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,640 I understand where artists come from. 210 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,920 They're like, oh, I'm an artist. Like, you know what I mean? 211 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,680 Like I don't want. To be, yeah, yeah. 212 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,000 But you don't do. That by, But you don't do that 213 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,880 by putting down something else. Sure, you can say I'm an artist. 214 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,680 I'd like not to be boxed into anything, but like, OK, fine, 215 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:19,920 but don't go about it by saying you don't call me an Afrobeats 216 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,600 artist. This is what this is what he 217 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,680 said you can. Disrespect the very people that 218 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,080 put you on this. Is what he said. 219 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,560 He said listen, am I African? Yes. 220 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,480 But do I make all sorts of music? 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,320 I don't want this labeled just Afrobeats. 222 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,600 Whisk, it said. That's like saying every 223 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,560 American artist mixed rap. Wait, what was good? 224 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:42,640 That's not true. Those are not the same thing. 225 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,480 Those are not. That's Those are not the same 226 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,400 thing though. But I would assume an artist 227 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,720 like, no, listen now then assume an artist like Whiz kid has APR 228 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,120 team that would like kind of like be like yeah maybe. 229 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,600 These guys will be having Twitter. 230 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Oh no, Oh no. But his next, his next statement 231 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,840 makes sense. This is why no matter how good 232 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,080 or amazing the music we make, beat, R&B or whatever other 233 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,920 genre, we get nominated in one Africa category or the other. 234 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,280 I've made songs from different genres of music, bro. 235 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,960 But that's the system dog. Like that's that's what we're 236 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,520 doing like. No, no, listen, I understand. 237 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,000 I understand what he's saying. It's just how you deliver it 238 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,280 that that's the issue that I have an issue with. 239 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Because like, yes, what he's saying is true. 240 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,600 The industry likes to box you into like really neat like bow 241 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,760 like boxes with yeah, put a nice pretty bow on it like because 242 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,080 like even like this is the same thing that Tyler, the Creator 243 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,480 was fighting against. Like he said, he made an 244 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,600 alternative album and they just want to give you rap album. 245 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,600 Just because. Like Tyler, the Creator has been 246 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,000 a rapper like in the past. They like to do shit like that, 247 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,400 just like so you can stay in your lane. 248 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,280 I mean the a recent example of somebody who's been fighting the 249 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:05,560 good fight would be, I mean, Lil Nas X with the country stuff and 250 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:07,880 even Beyoncé. But I know Beyoncé, they're 251 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,760 gone. They have to bro. 252 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,080 They have to put on the country charts, man. 253 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Like, if they don't, then that's blatantly racist. 254 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,080 But anyway, yeah, they really do like to put people in boxes. 255 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,320 I see that. But like, the way you say things 256 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,880 matters, you know? What I mean, I mean. 257 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Sure, maybe I understand. Is Afrobeat like his whiskid? 258 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,680 Is Afrobeat like. We get it though and and and if 259 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,320 we're looking at his his catalogue he hasn't done too 260 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,320 much music that isn't Afrobeat. Maybe he's had he had that one 261 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,880 reggae song with her. He's had a few reggae joints 262 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,320 with. It's really just Afrobeat and 263 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,520 reggae. I've not heard him on like like 264 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,160 even pop like we've had someone like an IRA star. 265 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,880 Bunna boy has done hip hop. The video has done RMB like 266 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,160 traditional what do you call it RMB. 267 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,240 He's he's hopped on some of those Whiskey has just really 268 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,680 done Afrobeat, Afrobeat, Afrobeat. 269 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,440 Maybe I'm wrong. I don't want the whiskey 270 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,480 committee to come for me. Anyway. 271 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:04,000 What were we talking about? Oh, David Doe. 272 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:04,760 David Doe? Yeah. 273 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,920 So David Doe was here for the the thing. 274 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,400 It was cool. I mean, I obviously didn't go 275 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,360 because I didn't. But I have not heard. 276 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,520 We've not heard like as much negative press about. 277 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,120 We're speaking Speaking of negative press. 278 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,360 We've not heard as much negative press about it. 279 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:26,640 But the main story here, yo, what is the media up? 280 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,920 To wait, actually, even before you, the main story here Sam, 281 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,480 has April Fools fallen off? This like, OK, so so here's my 282 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,280 here's my thing. Everyone should know that any 283 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,160 news that's given on the 1st of April, do not believe it. 284 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,280 You can't. Why are people still falling for 285 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,200 it's 2024. We've had so many of these like 286 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,040 you should be at least at least a baseline skepticism. 287 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,680 You should wake up with that on the 1st of April every year. 288 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Yes, it's ridiculous. April Fools has fallen off, man 289 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,040 they used to be. Fine. 290 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,080 April Fools doesn't hit. I feel like it doesn't hit the 291 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,400 same way that you still, man. Doesn't spark as much a joy. 292 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,240 No, it doesn't. I feel like everything people do 293 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,560 on AP Fools just feels corny now. 294 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:13,800 And. Curated. 295 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,760 Maybe it's just me, I don't know. 296 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,200 No. Yeah. 297 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,120 No, it's not. It's not. 298 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,000 It's. Not, but Speaking of Corny Man 299 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,680 K24, what the? What are you all doing? 300 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,480 What are you guys doing? What? 301 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,320 What is that? I have no idea what they were 302 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,000 trying there, Sam. That's. 303 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,280 You know, that's really crazy. Like like you're putting 304 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,360 someone's whole, whole like, like he could have been arrested 305 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,160 for that kind of stuff. Like those are not. 306 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,680 There's levels to this because you see the thing, the problem. 307 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,000 The problem is 1. Not everybody, like you were 308 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,480 saying, is is clued in on the waking up on April the 1st and 309 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,840 being skeptical. Skeptical about the things that 310 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,360 they read, right? So there's people who would see 311 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,200 that and be like wait, wait, what? 312 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,880 And then even even drugs. What they're talking about. 313 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,360 Exactly. And and even if and even if, 314 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,320 like, people are like, Oh yeah, like, but there's some people 315 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,120 who will be like, huh, But maybe you never know. 316 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Like, keep by the. You know what I mean? 317 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,440 So it starts to start. Exactly. 318 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,480 Yeah. And she, yeah, David was 319 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,040 guessing David wasn't having that at all. 320 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,880 No, it's just ridiculous. Like it's such weird cloud 321 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,600 chasey media, like heated for that, that was. 322 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,680 But don't they have like, I thought, I thought me, I thought 323 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,000 the way media companies works is like whenever like there's an 324 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,600 article, I thought there's like levels of which there's like 325 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,800 clearance. Like this person says OK yes, 326 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,320 and then the next person says OK yes, and then the next person 327 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,440 says maybe not. And then it ends there all like 328 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,280 there's like a chain of like you have to like. 329 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,920 It's that's what that one seems like. 330 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Like the Indians had a great idea and took it. 331 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,880 And they're like, Oh yeah, let's run with that, let's run with 332 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,720 that. And he jokes, too. 333 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,040 Let's run with that. With that. 334 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Give ourselves more. Yeah. 335 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,680 No, this was this wasn't the move. 336 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,520 If they were looking for notoriety, though, they've got 337 00:16:59,520 --> 00:16:59,920 it. Man. 338 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,440 Like the K24 has been published on like, everything. 339 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,040 I was even reading the article in the Washington Post and 340 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,040 everything. That's great for them. 341 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,599 They're not getting any money from them. 342 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:08,960 You know what? You know what's happening 343 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,440 though? They have to pay up money for 344 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:11,960 if. If David actually goes up for 345 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,000 the lawsuit, now they have to, They have to cover up money for 346 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,800 like legal fees and stuff, which is not smart. 347 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,680 This is an expensive. This was expensive for them. 348 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,119 This should be expensive for them. 349 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,079 It's it's ridiculous. Come on, do. 350 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:25,280 You think? Do you think Davido is justified 351 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,880 in suing them? I think so. 352 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,280 I think I think so. And I think if I'm being honest, 353 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,480 I think he should just so that we can. 354 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,800 I know it's kind of harsh because they it was supposed to 355 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,040 be a joke and maybe they are. I'm sure they sent letters and 356 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,400 emails and called him personally to apologize. 357 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,640 But when you start holding people accountable for this kind 358 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,600 of things, it's because this is ridiculous. 359 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,640 In this case, OK, fine, maybe David Doe can can fight and and 360 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:56,560 prove that you know what, but but in a in a case where it's, 361 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,080 it will be less likely to believe David Doe. 362 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Maybe because of where he's from, the kind of, you know how 363 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,520 things go, kind of country he's from or race or something like 364 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,520 that. And he actually gets into like 365 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,240 legal trouble and he's locked up like that. 366 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,280 That could be like that could be detrimental to an artist's 367 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,600 career. Like that could really mess up 368 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,400 an artist's bag, bag, bag for sure. 369 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,000 So it's really it's it's reckless is what it is. 370 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,280 It's reckless for no real, no real tangible reason except that 371 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,720 we participated in a fad. We participated in, in, in. 372 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,760 I. So. 373 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,640 I was just going to say I wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly 374 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,440 agree. Yeah, I think it's justified. 375 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,000 I think there's levels to like. April Fools should always be 376 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,480 like things that aren't harmless. 377 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,040 You know what I. Mean. 378 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Porsche. 379 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,840 Porsche said that they are creating a shovel. 380 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,920 That's that's great. We like that. 381 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,480 We like to see that. But don't say Davido. 382 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Was arrested or or or or if we had posted something like the 383 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,240 30% podcast will be rebranding to the 40% podcast Like, OK, 384 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,160 that's fine, Like, totally. Exciting by. 385 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,600 Doing that, you know what I mean. 386 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,720 That doesn't seem so if you're doing that. 387 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,200 We have to say that 30% podcast is beefing with another podcast 388 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,760 to make it seem if you're just rebranding that's that's is that 389 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,960 much of an April nobody. But I get what you saying. 390 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,920 I get to say. I get to. 391 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Say, I'm just saying like, it's harmless, like, you know what I 392 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,080 mean? It's like at the end of the day, 393 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,200 nobody's gonna be like, you know, a bit. 394 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,440 So yeah, I feel like there's levels to to what an April 395 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,680 Fool's joke should be. And I think that was taking it 396 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,800 too far. And I think he's justified in 397 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,440 taking them to court. He sued, he sued A Nigerian 398 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,120 company before and he won because they they put, they put 399 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,800 out defamatory things about him. So because he he seems like, I 400 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,680 mean he he maybe he's like really just really just uptight 401 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,160 about his not uptight, really stringent about his reputation. 402 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,840 So I think you should go for it just just so that you can teach 403 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,240 like media lesson. Like y'all can just be reckless. 404 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,560 Yes, y'all can be reckless. With they'll probably end up 405 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,960 settling, but like, you know, just lost. 406 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,000 Money for no. Reason. 407 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Jeez, if you're fool. For no reason, I'm sure the 408 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,040 interns who had that idea. But they're no, they're they're 409 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,360 not interns No more. They don't. 410 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:10,360 But, but it's also but also the blame should go on the the, the 411 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,280 higher ups because the higher ups should surely have seen that 412 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,840 and said this cannot go out. So I think the blame should go 413 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,720 across the board for that. It's craziness. 414 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,160 It's crazy. Well, shout outs to everybody 415 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,560 involved and prayers to everybody. 416 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,640 In they're going to meet their giant Hope you'll have good 417 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,040 lawyers. All righty. 418 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,080 I hope they have the lawyers, man. 419 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,040 OK, where do you want to go from here bro? 420 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,560 What are we doing? What are we doing? 421 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,120 There's a lot to choose from. There was an interesting 422 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:45,600 article. There was an interesting article 423 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,600 about Chimanu. He was saying he refers to 424 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,320 himself as a retired Kenyan pop star. 425 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,960 How? How did you feel reading that, 426 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,080 even if it might have been like just light hearted and like 427 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,080 jokey? Maybe he's not being serious, 428 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,480 but like, yeah, like, there's always some seriousness in like. 429 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,280 Oh no. Yeah. 430 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,880 There's always seriousness and you know, and timing is very 431 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,440 important in terms of like a joke, right. 432 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:17,560 And this joke is coming after after S Isol have have, have 433 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,080 have S isol is done for now, as they say. 434 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,200 So I don't know, It's interesting. 435 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,240 Timano is a, I mean he's he's, he's been part of the group, 436 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,600 held them down. People are doing different 437 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,880 things with their lives. I guess it happens and we've 438 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,400 talked about groups before. It happens like people are just 439 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,920 doing, they're going different directions. 440 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,800 They want to do that. Him, maybe he's a retired pop 441 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,080 star. We don't know whether he's going 442 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,200 to try and be a different type of star. 443 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,680 But in terms of like his kind of music, maybe he's done, maybe 444 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,320 he's done. I don't, I really don't have 445 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,520 much to say, honestly. I probably heard. 446 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,880 But he's, he's held us down. He's been part of the group. 447 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,320 We've enjoyed him in the group, we've enjoyed his music and 448 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,080 what's that I hate to say? So let me ask some Yeah, let me. 449 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,520 So let me ask because I'm looking at the video and it's a, 450 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,200 it's a video of him like mowing his lawn and stuff like that and 451 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,680 his kind of just saying that like you know, this is now his 452 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,760 new reality. You know, it's not working. 453 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,360 So it's it's also, it's also tongue in cheek, right? 454 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,280 But I wanted to have like now off of, off of Chimano, right, 455 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,200 Just to have a conversation about the group, like the group 456 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:43,960 dynamic in music groups, right. So this is just a reality, 457 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,200 right? In every music group, there's 458 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,480 going to be different personalities in said group, 459 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,320 right? And the life cycle of a group is 460 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,440 always the group comes out, everybody is on equal footing. 461 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,640 But always the with the group, there always comes to be like 1 462 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,920 breakout start and then there's always an individual in the 463 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,000 group who is very instrumental to the inner workings of the 464 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,200 group but doesn't get the recognition that they deserve. 465 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,360 And then there's always the people in the group who kind of 466 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,240 just like are very talented, yes, but are they're coasting, 467 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,280 you know they're just, they're ghosts. 468 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:28,800 They're not that they add numbers, and please I am this is 469 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,320 off of Sautiso, but not. Really bad because because we're 470 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,440 having this conversation because of of of such. 471 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,920 So so people don't completely, no, but people don't completely 472 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,160 push push it out of this. I get what you're saying. 473 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:44,000 No, no, no, no, no. That it's it's it's part of the 474 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,160 conversation, but I am not talking about that situation. 475 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,200 And then there's always the people in the group who, yes, 476 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,080 are talented, yes, add to the group, but they they don't 477 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,640 necessarily receive the same. Notoriety. 478 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,800 What's the word? Acclaim and notoriety as certain 479 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,760 members, Right. So what happens to like, OK, 480 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,640 like if we use Destiny, everyone likes to use Destiny's Child. 481 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,840 There's all. There's always a, a term that 482 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,040 has become like a pop culture reference now where somebody 483 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,920 says, oh, so and so is the Beyoncé of the group, right? 484 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Like even when, when, when, when, when Ray Shermard broke 485 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,120 up, everyone was like, Sway Lee is the Beyoncé of the group, 486 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,880 right? So what happens to the artist 487 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,200 who always gets left out in that situation, like when the group 488 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,680 like, Because with the life cycle of a group, it always 489 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,360 comes to an end where somebody wants to go solo and the group 490 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,960 decides, you know what, let's just go in our own ventures. 491 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,000 That always happens, right? What happens, man, in that 492 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,120 situation? How? 493 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,160 How like I feel like nothing prepares you as an artist to 494 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,960 have to deal with that. Like, you know, it's. 495 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Kind of unfortunate though isn't it? 496 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840 Like you're in a group and you're talented and you're 497 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:04,640 moving along, but just because someone else in the group has 498 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,040 more, it's almost like the stars are more aligned for them in 499 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,240 terms of like fame and fortune and all of that business. 500 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,600 Like you you're just and people can be brutal. 501 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,080 People will be forgetting if you if you don't outrightly go out 502 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,920 and and make yourself a star fam. 503 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,600 Yeah, it's it's over and and we've seen that a lot, a lot of 504 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,360 these artists, a lot of people in the group, some of them, we 505 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:28,000 don't even know their names. They just fizzle out. 506 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:32,680 They just fizzle out into do they've come dancers, they they 507 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,440 they maybe start record labels and and try to sign people. 508 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960 I don't know. But it's unfortunate, but it's 509 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,840 the way it is. We can't. 510 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,840 There's nothing you can do about it. 511 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,680 But I think what you can do is OK. 512 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,000 How do you now? Start beefing with the Ah, see, 513 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,160 that's sorry, sorry, sorry to interrupt, but that's that's the 514 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,240 people. Other others will start beefing. 515 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,080 Start beefing with the main guy and and start exposing secrets 516 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,400 about the group. And that's how you keep your 517 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,080 cloud up. That's what to do in this 518 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760 situation. Just start some beef when in 519 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,560 doubt. Beef. 520 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,400 No, no, no. No when in doubt. 521 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,440 That's beef. That's bad advice. 522 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,200 Do not follow what Sam is saying right now. 523 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,080 Sam is being a warmonger. That's true. 524 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,400 When in doubt, beef, look at what's happening in hip hop. 525 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Guys are just chilling all of us. 526 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,400 I did. Now there's just beef. 527 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Oh like bro, are you seeing what's happening with Pharrell 528 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,640 and? That broke my heart. 529 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,840 That broke my heart. That broke my heart. 530 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,760 That that. Me. 531 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,200 I'm on Chad's side if anything happens, Why? 532 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,800 Why are you just taking the introvert side? 533 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,360 Just because he can't do that? You can't do that. 534 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,200 You can't. You can't assign underdog to 535 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,640 someone who you don't know the full story. 536 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,360 I am on his side, whatever happens. 537 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560 Chad and Hugo fighting Chad, Chad and Hugo. 538 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,600 Chad and Hugo are part of like the Neptunes and in like the 539 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,560 there's a period where they're on like what, 6070% of radio, 540 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,680 just their songs. So they're like really 541 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,000 successful. But, but, but don't you think 542 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,520 like that Neptune sound is is like I feel like when when 543 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Pharrell is out here producing on his own shit like. 544 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,080 It's not the Neptune. It's not, Yeah. 545 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,240 A lot of people have said that, though may feel like chat 546 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,200 brings. I feel like Chad brings the 547 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,080 Neptune sound out of like when they're both collab like. 548 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:21,720 It's true. And this yeah, and this actually 549 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,800 relates to the the whole topic of the group because Chad, Chad, 550 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,480 Hugo is usually seen as the the in fact for a long time people 551 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,680 didn't really like like mess with him like that just because 552 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,160 he's like silent. He he minds his own business and 553 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,560 then Pharrell is obviously Pharrell, he's out there, he's 554 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,080 making moves, producing for everyone and all that business. 555 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,480 But you can't this back to you. You can't just take Chad's side, 556 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,360 like we don't know what the contract said and because 557 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,640 Pharrell is a louder one, he's going to always come out as a 558 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,080 bully. So we don't know. 559 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840 But I hope that's resolved. The Neptunes is definitely like 560 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:59,160 a big part of music as a whole. So but yeah man, listen, Chad is 561 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Chad. Chad is probably facing it too. 562 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,280 He's he's not as popular as a group and he's he has to. 563 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,320 It's almost like Timberland. Timberland The other guy who 564 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,360 used to produce with Timberland, what's what's his name? 565 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,480 Wait, there was a guy who used to produce the timber? 566 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,560 All this, a lot of his songs. Ah, let me see, what's his name? 567 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,960 What's his name? What? 568 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,920 This is how I find out Timberland was part of a do. 569 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,680 I didn't know the part of well, he was sort of sort of part of. 570 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,240 I think they're almost known as a a do. 571 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,160 So let me let me check. I have to find this out now 572 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,760 because. Timberland and Magoo. 573 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,480 Isn't my go? No, it's not my go. 574 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,960 My go was a was a actually IPI think my go, my go passed away. 575 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800 I'm. Coming off as so. 576 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,000 Informed. Right now I don't know. 577 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,520 You are? What's this guy's name? 578 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,600 What's this song by Rihanna? I think it's the only Rihanna 579 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,040 song I actually like. OK. 580 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,960 But anyway, so the point you're trying to bring across is that 581 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,680 he used to do production with somebody and. 582 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,080 Yeah, and that guy is not known as much that. 583 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,520 They deserve. But I can't. 584 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,160 I can't find this. Yeah, that's crazy. 585 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,920 Because I don't even know. I didn't even know that 586 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,720 Timberland had, like, help or like, somebody producing with 587 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,240 him. Yeah. 588 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,360 But anyway, that's, that's that's that's crazy, that's 589 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:15,920 what. Happens. 590 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,640 Yeah. I mean, listen, the thing about 591 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,960 groups is they're always a bit dicey. 592 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,800 And if you're an artist like before, you join a group like, 593 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,400 like, bro, like, even like with Ethan Muziki, right? 594 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,120 He had told us that he was part of a group and he left like and 595 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,360 and and look at his career now. It's like doing so much better, 596 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,080 like, and I'm not trying to say that. 597 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,000 Like, what am I trying to say? No. 598 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,080 It's OK Just, I know you're being nice and trying to be 599 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,200 politically correct. It's fine. 600 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,320 We know what we're not trying to say. 601 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,640 Just say what? Just say what you're saying. 602 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,480 No. No, no. 603 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,000 I'm just trying to say sometimes like it makes sense for for 604 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,240 somebody who's obviously the breakout star to kind of like 605 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,760 breakout like BN, the Saudi soul breaking up works really well 606 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,600 for BN, right, if we're being honest. 607 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Because like now you know, he can do collaborations with Ira 608 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,640 Steich and do collaborations with like whoever he he wants to 609 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,920 right now. And this is not to say the other 610 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080 artists can can't do the same thing. 611 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,040 But listen, people are here for BN, you know what I mean? 612 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,320 So he he, if I'm him, like it's like, yeah, like the group, the 613 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,920 group is important. And yes, they're taking a 614 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,280 hiatus. Never forget what the group 615 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,440 brought, because the group is what brought you into our ears 616 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,360 and our faces and our eyes. But and so never take that for 617 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:48,720 granted, but like bro, well, anyway, so I guess it's an 618 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,920 interest, but I'm interested to see where all the members of the 619 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,800 of. Salty. 620 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,680 Soul Land, you know, Obviously I can see Fancy Fingers is really. 621 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,080 Really. Yeah, he just put on that album 622 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,120 with all the other ladies. Show all the ladies something. 623 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,640 Yeah, yeah, He just put on an album. 624 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,440 Yeah, so Fancy Fingers is really like, yeah, exactly. 625 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,440 And so, I mean, let's see. Safari is doing music to next 626 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,680 man. I mean, he's doing a solo, so it 627 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,000 just seems like Chimano is the one who. 628 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,520 And he's also going on to it, right? 629 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,840 Yeah, going. Have they? 630 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,040 They're not gone yet, right? No, no. 631 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,040 Is that true? March. 632 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,360 March, right? No, no, no, no but going. 633 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,200 Right. Yeah, he's going on. 634 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320 Tour Who is Savara tagging along? 635 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,320 With Nashinsky, it's so it's Nashinsky is taking Savara, and 636 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,560 I see this guy from Uganda E. Nice. 637 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Can't remember? But yeah, so you see, it's fire. 638 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,000 It's fire. I hope all of them land where 639 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,920 they they need. To land where they're most 640 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,800 useful. Shout out to them what else was 641 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,680 in the news, Sam. What else was in the news? 642 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,600 I don't know. We could go. 643 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960 We could go. We could go. 644 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:01,160 Yeah. So I I I bumped into, bumped 645 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,720 into an interesting, interesting the the algorithm Gods blessed 646 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,000 me with an interesting little article about Caesars. 647 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,000 Caesars, of course, apparently 18 years ago, disappeared from 648 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 the Kenyan scene after dropping a smash. 649 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,920 A smash. Sorry, sorry. 650 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,000 Sorry to interrupt you, but it's been so long that somebody's an 651 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,840 adult who can legally drink since he disappeared. 652 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,240 Okay. Since he disappeared. 653 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,240 Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah. 654 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,400 So scissors. I mean scissors. 655 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,400 He dropped I'm Ko Katiki. And that song I still getting 656 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,840 played today. It it's it's it took over. 657 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,120 Chickie, Villa, Monza and I would come another chase a drum. 658 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Bam, bam, bam bam. There we go. 659 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a joint, you know. 660 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,360 Because you have a chance. But see, Kolkata came, bro. 661 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,480 What a banger, bro. It's really. 662 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,800 It's really interesting because I think, I think that song was 663 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,560 made as as part of a competition. 664 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,560 Can you believe that made as part of a competition. 665 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,000 And I I think he won the competition. 666 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,640 He was supposed to get some money for it but there was 667 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,960 thinking all this money. But yeah so it is. 668 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,960 This is an article talking about he the family and and in in 669 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200 light of a disappearance and the family just just collecting his 670 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,680 his royalties prior to his disappearance he won a whole 671 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,160 bunch of awards and stuff like that but but I mean the song the 672 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,680 song was really viral and everything but then it obviously 673 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120 died down. Now see this is not here to 674 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,200 collect so people have to collect on his behalf. 675 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,960 So so I mean it is it is for me it was just an I don't want to 676 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,640 go on for too long. It is an interesting article 677 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,960 saying how how because you don't really think about some of these 678 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,000 acts especially the older ones. I think the the default our 679 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760 default thoughts, our default thought process is maybe their 680 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,280 business wasn't right or or the label or you know how we usually 681 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,280 go about these things, the business the label is on who 682 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160 took all the money. So it's interesting to see this 683 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,960 actually play out in front of us with with someone else and it's 684 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,480 been more complicated now and that he's not around to fight 685 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,480 himself. So it's. 686 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,320 So what's the What's the article saying? 687 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,760 Because because what I'm reading is they're saying an 688 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,320 international recording label is, is to release Caesar's new 689 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,440 music. New music that's that's 690 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,679 interesting. Well, new music. 691 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,440 So there's that angle. I was also I also, and we'll get 692 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,880 to that. I also read the angle of of a 693 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,080 certain Muse Makassi, which often pointed out to me that his 694 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,960 father, that's his father, right. 695 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,120 And so Muse Makassi and him being called Caesar's is, I 696 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,159 don't know, we just did the math and it kind of blew my mind. 697 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,639 So he muse Mccassey was talking about how he's not, it says. 698 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,920 That I never, no, I was just going to say I just, I never 699 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,639 knew that that was the back story behind. 700 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,920 Him behind his name. Caesars, because his father is 701 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,360 called Abdul Makasi, so it just makes sense. 702 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,720 Makasi not know? Yeah, it makes sense. 703 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,080 So anyways, Makasi, I mean, he's talking about apart from the 704 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,080 international label, he's just talking about how he's not 705 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:13,040 gotten paid from the song. And I think Scissors was on 706 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,880 Khalif Khalif, Khalif Records back then, which is one of the 707 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,480 top labels. And so he says, if it were not 708 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,760 for John Mushiri, A Kenyan journalist in the United 709 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,800 Kingdom, he will never have known that the money that the 710 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,440 money and Khalif Records and Goma would have continued 711 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,120 collecting royalties and wouldn't have given it to them. 712 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,800 So I mean these guys are collecting royalties for the 713 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640 song and the song was really big, but then they didn't pay it 714 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,480 out to the family. So I I don't know what the 715 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,800 contract looks like obviously, because that's the first thing 716 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,280 that we would go to is what to the contract. 717 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,360 Who was supposed to get what was paying out what what percentage 718 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,760 did Caliph own and all that business. 719 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,280 But if perhaps Caliph Records actually had a contract and 720 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,360 they're supposed to pay or the record labels are supposed to 721 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,440 pay out to Caesar. Caesar's. 722 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,680 Caesar's, I'm calling him Caesar's now Caesar's. 723 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,440 And they did not do that, then that's just like it's the same 724 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,280 old story that we that we see, right? 725 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,240 It's just it's ridiculous. Yeah. 726 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,240 So that YouTube, they collected 71,000. 727 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,560 We're just pocket. Watching from YouTube pocket 728 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,320 watching. Yeah, Sam. 729 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,120 Watching. Yeah, but wait. 71,000 in 730 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,520 royalties for 2.5 million views, man. 731 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,480 And they're saying, just maybe that's just from YouTube. 732 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,840 Yeah, we don't know what they're, what they earned from 733 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,280 other places and stuff like. That is that correct? 734 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,000 That doesn't seem right. I mean. 735 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,240 That seems so low in my opinion. It does. 736 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,520 It does. It seems low. 737 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:42,320 Either that or the value of a stream in in in Kenya it's. 738 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560 Short it's short to the ground it's down under. 739 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,160 But yeah I mean I kind of over the over the place with this. 740 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,800 I don't know how to feel about this. 741 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,720 I'm just I guess I'm just going to see how it how it unfolds but 742 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,760 and and hopefully he hopefully the family of the estate because 743 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,680 again we don't know what happened to him that's that's 744 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,560 still a huge mystery like bro disappeared before our eyes. 745 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,160 I hope he's Good, Hope he's OK. We definitely don't have any. 746 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:10,240 It's the biggest mystery in Kenyan. 747 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:11,600 Music. Yeah, we need to put some 748 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,000 detectors on that. We need to get Sherlock Holmes 749 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,120 here ASAP. We obviously don't have much 750 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,080 faith in what MCSK has paid out to him. 751 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,360 And they've they have been collect and they have been 752 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,160 collecting royalties for him, but they haven't paid it out, 753 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,600 according to Musee Makassi, And this is Musee Makassi's side. 754 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,640 There's. I'm pretty sure there's other 755 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,720 sides to this. Yeah, this is interesting. 756 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,080 If they're releasing new music, what do they mean by new music 757 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,720 after? Is it new music research music 758 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,520 or is it music he recorded 18 years ago that they're dropping? 759 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,520 And how do you think? It's 8 music he recorded 18 760 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,200 years ago that never got released. 761 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,360 How do you think that music? Do you think? 762 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,480 That's a good move. I guess that's my. 763 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,480 Question, do you think that's a good move to, do you think 764 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,080 that's a good move to do that capitalize on on what are they 765 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,800 capitalizing on anyway? I don't know. 766 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,880 So, so my reason, So OK, who knows where Caesar's today is, 767 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960 You know what I mean? The thing is, it's kind of weird 768 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,000 because like you also have to consider what does the artist 769 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,480 themselves want, which, which also is why I don't really. 770 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,960 I'm not very comfortable with posthumous releases. 771 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,520 I'm not saying that Scissors is dead, we obviously don't know 772 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,480 what happened with him. But I'm just saying like because 773 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,960 usually the artist like those songs a lot of times are 774 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,800 unreleased for a reason, because the artist was not, like 775 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,160 comfortable with them. Coming. 776 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 777 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,360 And and for me personally, like, beyond monetary gain, obviously, 778 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,080 like, I think it's best to also honour the artist's wishes. 779 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,400 You know, like if an artist was not releasing music, it's for a 780 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,400 reason. Like, I'm sure like, like in the 781 00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,040 case of like Prince, I know he has a vault of like, because you 782 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,520 know that. Dude used to record every. 783 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,120 Single day, Yeah. He used to record music every 784 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,640 single day. So he has like a hard, like just 785 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,160 a ton of music. But you know how Prince was. 786 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,000 I'm sure he would never want that music to see the light of 787 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,720 day because he wasn't comfortable with it Being 788 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:22,200 released and your family and your estate, like they like to 789 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,000 say, should honour that. I think so. 790 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,800 You know, like, did Caesars want this music out? 791 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,160 I don't know. If he did then well and good for 792 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,800 it to come out. If he didn't, then you know, I 793 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,600 think it's best that music just stays in the talk, as much as it 794 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,880 would be interesting to listen to it, you know? 795 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,840 Yeah, but I do have one theory. Like some we were talking before 796 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,680 the podcast. Like assume by like some twist 797 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,440 of fate scissors find found his way back into the live limelight 798 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,400 and he was like yo. Roll out, roll out of the 799 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,720 Century, Man. Roll out. 800 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:00,480 And then he released Century. Bro. 801 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,920 Sam. And then he released music. 802 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,000 Just just bro. That would be a hit. 803 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,560 It might. I think it might make 804 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,640 international news if we're talking, if we were being 805 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,840 honest, it might make international music news like 806 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:18,280 that would be, that would be. An insane an 18 year roll out, 807 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,800 Sam. Yeah, 18 years. 808 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,640 And now and now I'm back. I'm back. 809 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,840 Holy. Yeah. 810 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,480 Yeah, What? Yeah, what? 811 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,880 I don't know. Listen, Scissors. 812 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,640 If by some twist of fit you're listening to this, listen, I 813 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,320 produce music. I can help you with your 814 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,200 comeback, man. Just listen. 815 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,240 I'll do the most. I'll do the most man. 816 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,840 Time into your Kenyan roots for that? 817 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,360 Oh man, no. Yeah, yeah. 818 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,200 Imagine how? It'd be interesting, wouldn't 819 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,080 it? That would be. 820 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,960 I almost feel. Weird saying that, though I 821 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,840 don't know why. I almost feel weird saying that, 822 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,600 but it will be that will be a rollout. 823 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,240 People don't do rollout. It reminded and this is like a 824 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,120 weird connection, but it reminds me of the, you know, there's 825 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,560 that movie about that boy that was shot over 14 years and then 826 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,400 there's another movie that was shot over 40 years. 827 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,800 I think like just continue shooting. 828 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,760 And then it was edited after it was done and pushed. 829 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,720 So that would be like that whole kind of thing like it. 830 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:11,240 It's like long this is long form content for real. 831 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,760 To be long form going into the Max. 832 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,640 Yeah, yeah, he's only done this is. 833 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,720 But anyway I'll be following this again it's it's it's just 834 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:31,520 unfortunate that labels and royalty collectors and all this 835 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,560 other guys we just aren't at a place where like there's all 836 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,960 there's there's a default negative connotation to them 837 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,320 like we we it's like they're guilty and until proven innocent 838 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,200 that's kind of how we treat them and it's just official like that 839 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,080 needs to change at some point you know and stories like this 840 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,840 keep proving that over and over and over and over again. 841 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,720 Like of course yeah we don't know everything. 842 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,920 We don't know the whole story we don't know what the contracts 843 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,040 are like. So but but we can only speculate 844 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,720 over what we've been told by MZ. McCarthy. 845 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,520 Yeah. And and then I'm reading this 846 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,360 like stories, man. You know, people have been been 847 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,400 finessed from time immemorial because like, you know, he won. 848 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,880 He won the award show. And I'm sure, did you mention 849 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560 about the 100,000? Cash prize. 850 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,240 Him. Yeah. 851 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,960 And him being only being given 10,000. 852 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,920 And then apparently he was supposed to also be granted 3 853 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:34,960 songs recorded. And they're saying, also in this 854 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,920 same article, that he was the artist who cut and raised for 855 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,520 Sean Paul when Sean Paul came to Mombasa in 2004, and apparently 856 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:50,760 even then he wasn't paid. The the only thing that they 857 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,280 gained from that whole experience, according to Museum 858 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,760 Makassi, was the clout and the fame that came along with that. 859 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,360 And it's just like, damn, like our industry has been messed up 860 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,200 for years. It's been and and that's not the 861 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,520 only, I mean, we've had stories of other people who've performed 862 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,400 in like really big international concerts and they've had to pay 863 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,520 for their own sale. This is an award show. 864 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,000 Like, I'm not a award show, but it's a competition. 865 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:24,000 Like if you're supposed to make 100,000 from winning, like, then 866 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,640 win. You're 100,000. 867 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,600 Why are you only paying the guy 10,000? 868 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,480 No, no, man. It's slimy. 869 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,320 We need to and we're still going through that today. 870 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,480 Like, like like with with other situations that cannot talk 871 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,480 about. But then it's the same thing. 872 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,160 It's literally the same thing that keeps happening over and 873 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,760 over and over and over again. Like at some point, like people 874 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,880 have to, we need to. Something needs to change. 875 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,960 Yeah, yeah. It's actually disheartening, 876 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,120 man, because this is a family who they're probably dealing 877 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,120 with like where's, where's, where's our guy? 878 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,960 And then now you have to start fighting with MCSK and them to 879 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,280 pay you money that that he's owed, probably legally, 880 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:10,280 contractually. It's like, come on, stop, stop. 881 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,440 Just just do the do the right. Thing. 882 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,680 Why can't? Why is it so difficult? 883 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,880 Why? I don't get it. 884 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,280 Let's not get into a rant. Shout out to everyone involved. 885 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,400 Involved. So what we can get into is new 886 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,680 music. New music. 887 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,400 What were you listening to, Sam? Oh, we. 888 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,760 Well, maybe. Let me Oh, OK, let me start. 889 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,640 Let me start. Let me start. 890 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,720 Just based off of your reaction. So Fenna and Ben Soul released a 891 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:44,640 new song. Keke that that that was good. 892 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,040 I also listened to oh produced by Hendrix. 893 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,880 Sam always shout out to him. Moro Bars by Umoja Sounds and 894 00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,040 Frederick Muller Obviously we you know we love Umoja sounds 895 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,880 cannot provoke. Yeah doing I I listen. 896 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,920 Like when I was listening to the song, I realized Moro Bars is 897 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,360 more bars. It's the African richest eight 898 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,280 that. Was an interesting, Yeah, that 899 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,800 was an interesting realization. I. 900 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,680 Was listening to that shout out to new Funk. 901 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,920 He also released the song Be the One. 902 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000 Some new funk just be on his. Vibe. 903 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,920 Yeah, New Funk just does his own thing. 904 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:35,760 So shout out to him, man. There was, oh, there was a shout 905 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,920 out to Carnival for Voices in the Dunes. 906 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,040 You know, Carnival's production is insane, so shout out to him. 907 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:50,840 And then there was Utamu by Razerman Zerwembe, so shout out 908 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:57,520 to him for that. And then for me I had well, OK, 909 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,080 let me just shout out this, this out. 910 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:05,520 First there was Nuka by Sophie, Anzhao, Rexon and Lario, which 911 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,440 was fire. Like, I I really loved the 912 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,240 melodies that Sophie and Zao was hitting. 913 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,600 That's what I listened to. There's one more song I listened 914 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,040 to, which I really like, but we we we'll get into it. 915 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,800 Uh, huh? Yeah. 916 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,520 How about? You some Dang, not too much 917 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,480 different. Let's see, let's see, let's see. 918 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,480 Nanimjinga by Eric Wainaina. That was cool. 919 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,480 I like to say that Eric Waina is coming out of the woodwork again 920 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520 and like he's released in music more frequently. 921 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,280 So that's always cool. And he's working on production 922 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,160 with M3 Booger, who's another producer out here. 923 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,040 So that's fire. That's fire I'd like. 924 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,800 To see cubed. No. 925 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,200 Is it cubed? No. 926 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,880 Is Is it cubed? No, no, I'm just saying oh. 927 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,000 That's good to be shocked, but don't I know it? 928 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,080 Aziz was on a song called Dakar Extended Mix with Dean Walker. 929 00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:01,120 And let me get this right, Savage and she Shea. 930 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,800 Yeah, I don't know how you pronounce that. 931 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,280 It's written differently. Yes. 932 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,000 Who else? Who else? 933 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,480 Who else? Who else released some music? 934 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,160 There was one that I really wanted to shout out. 935 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,680 Can't remember. Oh Caterpillar released a song 936 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,960 called Brighter Days. Caterpillar is a rapper. 937 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,560 That was interesting. Amir. 938 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,680 Explore my mind that was dope and Sona rail Sona I don't know 939 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,040 how to pronounce Sona rail but that have vocals on that were 940 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,520 really like I really like her melody she sounds like she 941 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,920 sounds like if she gets like really nice proper like R&B 942 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,680 production she could go hit me up for for some other ITV if you 943 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,120 need some R&B production let's see let's see let's see let's 944 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,520 see what else was what was yeah I think that's that's that's 945 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,440 what I went through man and just OK. 946 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,360 Different stuff, Sam for me, bro. 947 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:57,000 The song that stood out this week I think has to be to Meru. 948 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,800 Diana by. I mean Koski, Simon. 949 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:05,080 And Vic WI know, it sounds like it gives you vibes of kaske 950 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,120 vibaya. But like listen, if the formula 951 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,120 is working, it's working me. For me it's working. 952 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,160 I I really still enjoy. It yeah it was. 953 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,440 I mean it's it's it's a very familiar Viquez produced the 954 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,080 other one. It's the familiar same type of 955 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,360 beat ish, same type of vibe. There's the there's the it's the 956 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,480 same. It's it has the same Bob and 957 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,080 there's the there's the the vibe, there's the the crowd 958 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,920 vocals in the hook. The crowd. 959 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,120 There's the play between Furthermore and Saru is 960 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,720 Fathermore and Saru. It's just the same, same type of 961 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:36,080 Bob, but but it's actually a banger. 962 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,360 It's it. It sounds. 963 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,600 I like it. I enjoyed it. 964 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,240 I like the energy, the energy of the song for. 965 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,280 Sure. I'm a fan. 966 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,520 I think they should do a video for that. 967 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,200 I can't wait. I think the video for that would 968 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,480 go, yeah, it's actually. So it's not to Saru and to Meru. 969 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520 Yeah, it is like if you listen to the lyrics to that, like, the 970 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,920 stories are very. Yeah, they're very. 971 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,600 And the flow I enjoyed, I enjoyed the the store. 972 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,240 I don't know what's the name for this flow, the stop start flow. 973 00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:03,600 I don't know what she's doing, but it's just it's it's really 974 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,920 cool. I find it interesting. 975 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,920 It's, it's it's new. It's new, but it's different. 976 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,800 But yeah. So I think Sam, I think for our 977 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:19,880 song pick for today, I would love to play Tu Meru Diana by 978 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,480 Vic W Father Moore and Saru Saru. 979 00:49:30,880 --> 00:52:18,320 Black Market Records. That was to Meru Diana by 980 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,240 Victoria W Furthermore, and Saru shout out to them killing it. 981 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:26,560 As always, these guys just know how to make hit songs. 982 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,880 They know the formula. And I fuck. 983 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,240 With them. So shout out to them, Sam. 984 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,880 That's it. I have AI have an important 985 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,000 question for you. What side are you on? 986 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,720 Let's go. What side am I on? 987 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,240 I need to know the sides first. Give me some more context. 988 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,440 There's only You don't even need any context to that question, 989 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,720 man. What side are you on? 990 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:56,000 Whose side are you leaning on? I just had a flashback to my 991 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,880 Sunday school days. I'm so sorry. 992 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,400 I had to list that with some silence, bro. 993 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:06,560 I'm sorry. If you like one thing in 994 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,720 podcasting that you can do to somebody, that's not great. 995 00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,160 Just listen. Science. 996 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The fans are probably like, what 997 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,160 the heck am I listening to? I'm sorry, guys. 998 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,320 It Intrusive thoughts. The intrusive thoughts took 999 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,880 over. What side am I on? 1000 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,160 I am on, but I'm on my side, man. 1001 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,360 I pick me, dawg. What's up? 1002 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,720 Ah, Sam. I'm talking about the J. 1003 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:32,200 Cole Drake versus Kendrick beef man. 1004 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,040 Bro, I'm on no side. I'm, I'm, I'm. 1005 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,200 I'm all. Don't be like no side bro. 1006 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:41,640 This is. This is. 1007 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,560 Inspiring this is. Show some cojones, bro. 1008 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,560 Pick a side. I'm not nobody side. 1009 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,720 I don't even, to be honest, I don't know what what's the beef 1010 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,280 about? What are they what are they 1011 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,200 Drake. And because what I feel like, 1012 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,200 listen, I feel like Sam. Let me break it down for you, 1013 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,120 Sam. Also, Shooter was just like 1014 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,640 Braga, just bragging. And then I also feel like 1015 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,320 Kendrick people are taking Kendrick super serious. 1016 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,120 Like he's actually like going against these guys. 1017 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,560 I feel like these guys are all friends. 1018 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,880 They know what's up. Group like hey, hey, hey, hey, 1019 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:14,200 hey, hey, They're buying it. OK, so Sam, since time 1020 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,160 immemorial. This goes back into the BC 1021 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,920 times. People fought over, especially 1022 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,840 men. They fought over a few things. 1023 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,480 You know, property. Oh no. 1024 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,800 Yeah, finances. Yeah, yeah. 1025 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,640 And women. And so Sam, I can tell you, 1026 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,880 within those three things I have mentioned, right, the fight is 1027 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,560 within that. I think it's been theorized that 1028 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,920 Future and Jake are beefing over a girl as always, as all these 1029 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,200 things always amount to, it's always about fighting over a 1030 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,880 girl and stuff like that. These are these are men in their 1031 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,280 30s, by the way, anyway. Late 30s. 1032 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,560 At that late, that is. At that, bro. 1033 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,800 Anyway, so so that's what sparked the like beef, 1034 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,640 obviously. Apparently Jake has been slimy 1035 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,400 because, you know, apparently even the leak, the Drake leak, 1036 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,880 has something to do with this whole situation. 1037 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,240 As to how that got leaked and stuff, I don't know. 1038 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,640 But these are fighting as usual. So and then now Kendrick. 1039 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,200 Kendrick I think has there's been, there's been, there's been 1040 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,200 things, you know, I feel like Kendrick also feels like he's, 1041 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,400 he's alone. And you know, Jake and and Jake 1042 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:32,800 all are Buddy. Buddy. 1043 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,760 Yeah, yeah, he's been left out. And just just a side note, this 1044 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,160 whole Big Three thing was started by fans. 1045 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,320 This is not like them. So they are playing into 1046 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:46,440 something the fans dreamt up and now it's becoming a huge thing. 1047 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,760 Oh, it's not big me. It's just big me like come. 1048 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,240 On if we're OK. But if we're talking about 1049 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:53,400 sides, man, damn, whose side are you on? 1050 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,960 Because because right now, OK, whose side am I on, bro? 1051 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,880 If people people who know me know I'm a Drake and J. 1052 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,960 Cole fan like so, I'm going to be a gravitate to their side. 1053 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:10,000 But I have to be honest, I think like, that is a really, really 1054 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,200 good song, man. Like Drake's verse on like that 1055 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,760 is insane. Not Drake. 1056 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,200 Kendrick. 'S verse it was. 1057 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,280 It was a It was a show stopper, like what he did. 1058 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,400 But how many years ago 7. Years old bro. 1059 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,080 Bro was going crazy, man. When did he release? 1060 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,840 That the the the verse on big control, yeah. 1061 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:33,200 Control control came out like I want to say it was like 2012 or 1062 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,000 13 over there or something like that. 1063 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,200 Yeah, it's it's, I mean it's not to that scale obviously, but but 1064 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,840 it's because it's different and everything. 1065 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,840 'S different, but some yeah. The the reason why, The reason 1066 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040 why I can give some credence to you saying these guys are 1067 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,440 probably in a WhatsApp group and whatever is because this is this 1068 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,280 whole thing is coming suspiciously at a time when hip 1069 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,640 hop needs some like rewritalizing. 1070 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:57,480 Exactly, yeah. Yeah, because hip hop. 1071 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,200 Hip hop is falling. That's a good. 1072 00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,920 That's a. That's a. 1073 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,360 Anybody who's in the good. Speed will tell you, yeah. 1074 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,800 Yeah, anybody who's in the industry will tell you that 1075 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:10,200 right now the focus of the of the the major labels and stuff 1076 00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:15,800 is on world music and and hip hop needed something like. 1077 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,280 This to kind of revive it, so maybe, so maybe they're playing 1078 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,080 along. This is feeling a little bit. 1079 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,880 I don't know if you're if you're a conspiracy theorist like you, 1080 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,120 you could argue that there is a method to this madness. 1081 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,960 I I would. You know what I think I and just 1082 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:38,400 because of how it's played out, I think because I mean Drake and 1083 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,160 and and Cole did the first person shooter, right? 1084 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,440 And that was dope. And then Kendrick came back and 1085 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,440 responded with that and then and. 1086 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,560 Now Jake Cole has. Responded on on his latest. 1087 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,840 Yeah, on his latest joint, right? 1088 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,920 But Drake gave us an Instagram. Not an Instagram. 1089 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,840 He gave us a a A concert rant. In Drake's defence, bro, he's 1090 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,680 been on tour man, which he's done now, so. 1091 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,920 So you think, Do you think we're going to see a response from 1092 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,040 Drake? I don't think Drake is going to 1093 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,120 respond. Drake is. 1094 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,000 What? I don't think he's good. 1095 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,360 Drake is the king of response. He's going to be doing like 1096 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,560 Petty. Jobs like he does petty jobs 1097 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,160 inside in his, in in his. But but he might. 1098 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,280 He might take some time. He might dedicate. 1099 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,520 Sometimes. Jake always responds, even if 1100 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,960 it's true. Like like. 1101 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,200 Let me what I'll say is the fans, the fans, hip hop fans all 1102 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,480 around want to see this. I don't know why, but they just 1103 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,800 want to see people fighting. Yeah, we. 1104 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,960 Thrive off of negative energy, unfortunately. 1105 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,120 So this is, this is tantalizing for a lot of people. 1106 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,360 Like, people love this. There's threat. 1107 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,920 So anyway, we'll see how all this plays out. 1108 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,400 I will be taking a lot of interest actually. 1109 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,000 See how it goes, I'll. Just be in the sideline. 1110 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,080 So anyway, watching I. Think you're going to be. 1111 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,320 I'll just be on the sidelines watching just just like like how 1112 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,280 how how how much of an Arsenal fan I am. 1113 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,160 I'm just on the sidelines I'm not like so invested. 1114 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,960 I'm just if you're. Oh, by the way, Oh my God, thank 1115 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,440 you. My new my, oh, my new, oh Oh my 1116 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,440 God. GGMU, thank you guys so much for 1117 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,520 what you've done for drawing with Liverpool. 1118 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,440 I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. 1119 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,680 I am an Arsenal fan, of course, because this puts us at the top 1120 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,720 of the league. We are top of the league. 1121 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,080 We are top of the league. We're not saying that we you 1122 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,960 need to. Say we are top of the league. 1123 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,080 Thank you for listening to the talk about we are top of the 1124 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,640 league no one cares about, no Arsenal are. 1125 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,680 You kidding me? Any guys? 1126 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,640 Listen. So aside from Arsenal just being 1127 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,720 an amazing team which you all should support, I want to leave 1128 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,920 you guys with the three CS that I've been trying to push at the 1129 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,280 end of the podcast. Confidence, Please, guys, 1130 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,360 remember, always remember you all need to be confident in what 1131 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,120 you're doing, especially if you're in the music industry and 1132 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:51,320 people can taste and smell the confidence radiating off of you, 1133 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,600 man. So you always have to be 1134 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,000 confident. You also have to be consistent. 1135 00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,120 We talked about this even in the interview we had with Brian 1136 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,680 Cheger, which by the way, thank you so much Brian Cheger for 1137 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,040 coming Go. Listen to that if you have. 1138 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,360 Consistency. Exactly. 1139 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,120 Go listen to that if you haven't, he said it himself. 1140 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,440 Consistency is key. If you're in the music industry, 1141 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,680 you have to be releasing music at a consistent and strategic 1142 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,000 basis. And the last thing is your 1143 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,520 craft. Always, always, always work on 1144 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,680 your craft, man. Even if it's doing the smallest, 1145 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,800 most minimal thing you can think of. 1146 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,200 Yeah, like I don't. Know as long as it's not. 1147 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,200 Moving backwards, pardon. No, sorry. 1148 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,880 I was saying as like even doing small things, as long as you're 1149 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,480 not moving backwards, you're good. 1150 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:44,640 Yeah, like just doing a small thing like reading up on what 1151 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,360 music distribution is or if you're make, if you make music, 1152 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,760 watching a tutorial on YouTube. That helps and it contributes to 1153 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,680 you moving forward in the industry. 1154 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,040 So always remember those three C's. 1155 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,480 And with that, Sam, thank you for being an amazing Co host. 1156 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,040 Bro. That was episode 71, bro. 1157 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,800 We're in the 70s, man. We're old. 1158 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,600 We're in. We're old the 70s. 1159 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,040 We're in the 70s, man. Yeah man. 1160 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,160 We wear, We have afterwards and we wear bell bottoms and we go 1161 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:24,840 to the disco. OK, don't list that with 1162 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:25,640 silence. Sam. 1163 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,000 Don't do that to me. Silence is a weapon podcast to 1164 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,840 me. Sam, Silence is a Weapon 1165 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,520 podcast, so thank you all for listening. 1166 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,200 Yeah, I'll catch you in episode 72. 1167 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,600 Sorry. Sorry for doing that. 1168 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,320 That was rude. My bad. 1169 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:41,640 Oh man.