1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,880 More breaking of the footballs. This footballs are so flimsy 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,760 man. I've never seen flimsier photo 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,520 walls than this one. These are these are made out of 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,400 drywall. This is drywall photos just 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,680 need. To blow on them lightly anyway. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,880 Pause music. Anyway, Don't look at me like. 7 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,800 That new music, man. New music moving swiftly. 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:01:03,440 The. What's going on, everybody? 9 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Welcome to episode. What are we doing now? 10 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:13,640 This is 545354. 84 man 805050 what are you? 11 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,240 What am I up to? Oh man, welcome to episode 84 of 12 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,040 the 30% Podcast. 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And we're also on social media. 22 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:05,360 That is the 30% pod on Instagram, the 30% pod on X, the 23 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:11,440 30% pod on Threads, the 30% pod on LinkedIn, where you can 24 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,320 interact with us, tell us the things you agree with, tell us 25 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,040 things you disagree with, hate on us, pick us up, whatever you 26 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,120 want to do. Yeah, that is it for the intro. 27 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,640 Alpha, What's up? Great reach my intro. 28 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,240 What was that? Do you want me to reach your 29 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,400 intro? I am going to give you a solid 30 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,000 10 out of 10. Whoa. 31 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,520 I did all around just. No, that's that's what. 32 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:44,200 That's condescending, what you just did. 33 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,800 Wait, wait. No. 34 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Oh my. It's condescending. 35 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,760 No, no, no, let's believe that it's condescending. 36 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,200 It's condescending and that. AFAM is no longer the what did I 37 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,680 say in the intro? He's no longer that. 38 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,960 He's just AFAM now. I didn't mean it to be that OK, 39 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,640 Genuinely, I was, I, I actually, I was just going to give it the 40 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:06,480 10 out of 10. Genuinely, I can't even say what 41 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,880 else I was going to give it is. Cap as cap BMI. 42 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Oh, man, that's a music joke. This is you. 43 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,520 You know what? I'm turning this on you. 44 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,240 This is you turning the audience against me. 45 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Sam, I I see what you're doing. You're you're weaponizing your 46 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,440 audience. You're weaponizing the fanbase. 47 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,720 Wow. Thank you, Sam. 48 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,520 Do you guys see what's happening here? 49 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Do you see the gas lighting that's happening? 50 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,240 Can you just? Tell the fanbase how you're 51 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,800 doing. They're not. 52 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:33,680 They're not here for all this runs you're doing. 53 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,040 I I'm doing fine. Yeah, thanks for asking. 54 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,440 First, I'd like to start this speech about my. 55 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Why you so saucy by? Just saying what it's. 56 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,400 Saucy. I don't like it. 57 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,360 That used to be my tag anyway. No genuinely I'm doing fine. 58 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,400 This week has flown by but been super creative. 59 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:03,000 I'm working on a bunch of projects, music projects for 60 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,360 sure. So you know, that's been keeping 61 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,200 me going. So that's just what I have 62 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,480 really indulged myself. In making music last week, you 63 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,840 said you weren't into doing much of that. 64 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,880 I, I know it's, you see, it's just a, it's a, it's a yo-yo 65 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,440 like of emotions. Like I was going through a bit 66 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,440 of a, I was going to like a bit of a identity crisis where, you 67 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,680 know, I feel like I'm interested in so many different things and 68 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,480 just going through so many different like paths. 69 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,720 But I all, I forget that like what brought me into like this 70 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,040 music space was like production, you know, that's, that's, that's 71 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,520 who I am. I'm a, I'm a producer, you know, 72 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,880 I had to remember that. Like that's, you know, despite, 73 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,840 OK. Like I love, like, I love this 74 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:51,760 podcast and stuff. Like I love managing the artists 75 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,680 that I manage. But like, I am a music producer 76 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,560 and I, and I was like, I need to get back to basics. 77 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,040 This is what I'm here for. This is, this is what I've been, 78 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,840 this is what I'm passionate about music production. 79 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,040 And so, yeah, I, I, I decided, you know, I'm going to like, 80 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,480 really, really go hard on the music production aspect of 81 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,840 things. And that's been going great. 82 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,280 How was your week? I'm doing, how am I doing? 83 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,520 But Speaking of confused, I've also been this week, I've been, 84 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:30,200 I think I've, I've realized that I'm doing entirely too much in 85 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,040 terms of production. Like I've been making, I've been 86 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,280 working at least trying to be creative, but then my, my 87 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:38,640 creativity has been going in so many different directions. 88 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:44,280 And it's, it's like in just terms of the beats, one of the 89 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:47,520 things I like to pride myself on and not in a proud, full, 90 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,360 boastful way, but one of the things I pride myself on is I'm, 91 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,040 I'm able to do different genres rather decently, I guess. 92 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,280 But now how I've, I guess I've been trained since I started is 93 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,040 I didn't focus specifically on one like genre and beat it down 94 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,480 to its death. Like I'd do an Afrobeat 95 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,840 instrumental or beat one today and then like right, right after 96 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:16,200 that I'm jumping into like hardcore EDM and then after that 97 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,400 I'm going into like lofi music. So that's, that's beneficial 98 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 because I'm able to tap into so many different energies and many 99 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,240 different, different energies, different sounds and, and you 100 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,600 know, zones and spaces. But then the problem with that 101 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,840 is I just get very disillusioned in terms of what, which 102 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:36,920 direction to go in my release. So that's what I've been bugged 103 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,760 about this whole week. It's just, I have just, I have 104 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:44,240 so much music sitting around that in so many different camps, 105 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,440 it's hard to figure out how to move forward. 106 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,160 And I think there's a lot of artists who struggle with that 107 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,600 too. So I don't know. 108 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,800 I can't figure out. Trying to figure out how how to 109 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,240 go about that. It's all about figuring out how 110 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,560 to harness that because I get it man, like you, but you have to 111 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,200 harness that like that chaos in some way and like direct it and 112 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,120 get it for. Sure. 113 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, The the, the, the, I 114 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,360 guess the the problem comes in because I feel like I feel like 115 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,680 being multi genre is is like a superpower. 116 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,040 So I feel like if I stick to one, if I stick to here, if I 117 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,000 stick to one genre, I feel like I'm, I'm giving up a lot of my, 118 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,160 myself if it feels like this kryptonite in front of me. 119 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,160 But I guess it all it all boils down to discipline. 120 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,440 Yes. Boils down to discipline. 121 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,880 So yeah, that's that's been that. 122 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,560 Apart from that, I mean, I've been following what's been going 123 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,360 on in the country still. Yeah, things are things are. 124 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,000 I don't say things are mellowing out, but it's it's just doesn't 125 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,880 seem to be as heated as it was the past couple of weeks now. 126 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,200 But. Things are still going on. 127 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Things aren't mellowed out. It's just that their tactics, 128 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,400 are they, they've been by day, I mean the enemy, they've been 129 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,320 really implementing their tactics. 130 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,840 And it was felt a lot like on on Tuesday when they when they 131 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,480 infiltrated the peaceful protests with all their goons 132 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,320 and everything. And, you know, it's just leaving 133 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,000 such a bad taste in people's mouths because, like, it's 134 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,560 really, like, hijacked what the protest was about initially. 135 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,440 And these tactics of theirs have made, like, our generation have 136 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,080 to kind of like, OK, let's pivot and let's figure out different 137 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,320 ways of protest. That's why things feel like 138 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,600 they've mellowed out, but they haven't. 139 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,960 I feel like in people's hearts, in people's minds as at the core 140 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,600 of it all is still the primary focus. 141 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,400 Yeah. The fight is still on. 142 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,960 So yeah. And yeah, I mean, not that we're 143 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,480 here. Like that's how Tuesday went. 144 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,080 And it's just disappointing, man, that like our own 145 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,400 government can pay goons to, like, destroy the their own 146 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,960 city. Like it was like, think about 147 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,760 how ridiculous that is. It's, it's, it's crazy. 148 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,400 It was funny seeing and again, I, I don't know if it's true, 149 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,840 but then it just the, the thought of it, it's funny seeing 150 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,960 the goons coming out saying we've not been paid like. 151 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,400 Yeah, I saw that as well man bro like pay your own. 152 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,840 Goons like what to pay your goons? 153 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,720 Pay your goons at least. At least give them the money if 154 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,600 they're going to destroy the anyway. 155 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,400 Me, if I'm me, if I'm a goon, I'm taking that money. 156 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,480 Are you suing? Can you sue? 157 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,720 If you're a goon? Would you sue? 158 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,640 You can't. But you take you take that money 159 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,840 and then you just don't do anything like this agreed to be 160 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,280 paid. It's like, you know how they 161 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,880 usually pay people like during election they'll be like. 162 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Yeah, or they'll give me. 1000 vote. 163 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,560 I'll take that money. Give me 2000 the way. 164 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,160 Yeah, give me the 1000 vote. But I'll still vote the way I 165 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,160 want to vote. You know what I mean? 166 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Free money. So unfortunately that's what 167 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,520 happened on Tuesday. Thursday was also very muted. 168 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:09,040 But I think the biggest like success is was today when we 169 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,800 record this podcast, which is Sun. 170 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 171 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,760 And obviously, you know, like it was planned, it was always 172 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:21,520 planned that today would be the day in which they we did the the 173 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:27,440 Shujaz Memorial concert, which was always meant to honour the 174 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,240 Kenyans who were killed during the protests. 175 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:34,560 And, you know, it's been it's been difficult like, because I 176 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:38,040 feel like I've just been seeing a lot of funerals and stuff like 177 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,080 that for the people who've died. And it's sad. 178 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,520 But ultimately these are these are people who died for the 179 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,240 country. These are the true Shujas for 180 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,600 real. And so, yeah, seeing that, 181 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,160 seeing, seeing the concerts. Go ahead in the Hulu park. 182 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,120 Memorial concert. That's Sunday. 183 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,600 Yeah, it's today. Yeah, that that's today. 184 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Like that's what happened today. And today's Wednesday. 185 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,720 No, today's Sunday. No, today's Wednesday. 186 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,840 Why are you doing this? OK, OK. 187 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,080 Actually, it's happening. We're breaking the 4th wall. 188 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,520 We're breaking the 4th wall. So when we do this podcast, do 189 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,520 we require is this podcast on? When is this are we talking of 190 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,040 like? Wednesday when we're recording, 191 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,400 when we're recording, it's both, it's both. 192 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:30,760 It's whatever you want it to be. Anyway, she just, yeah, shout 193 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,360 out to the there's a big shout out to the artist who came out. 194 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:39,080 I mean some of the the likes of of of and it's good to see some 195 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,040 of our like our, our goats. Yes, two of the goats were there 196 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,080 Calligraph Jones and BN. We have Fenna, nameless Octopiz. 197 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,080 Also, you don't think nameless is a is a good? 198 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,560 You said two or no good. The the term goat is kind of now 199 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,720 it's it's been. No, no, no, no, actually like 200 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,680 interesting. Some just said I'm sorry some. 201 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:03,120 Are stitching you think that? No, I am stitching you up. 202 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,920 You said there are two goats on this list. 203 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,360 So are you saying so you're either saying calligraph BN 204 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,680 nameless or Octopus or one of them or Eric Y Niner. 205 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,920 So Oh my. So you don't think Eric Y Niner 206 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,440 is a good? Oh wow, Sam. 207 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,960 Actually meant M singer. I meant M Singer. 208 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,520 No, I'm talking about. Remember when you had the 209 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,280 conversation about about about the The Who is the the GOAT? 210 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,080 Like we we had put calligraph bien and and Nyashinski. 211 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,720 So that's why I'm saying 2 two of them. 212 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,760 That's what I'm talking about. Anyway, we had we had nameless 213 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,520 was there octopizo charisma. I'm going to break the 4th wall 214 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,360 again, but it's raining. So if you guys hear rain in the 215 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,680 background, my bad. Juliani raining by Wednesday. 216 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,440 No, it's not. It's raining on. 217 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,960 It is raining on the day we recorded it. 218 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,480 Ericoinaina Sarabi Band Graffiti Mutoria Was there. 219 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,840 DJ Double Trouble? Not to be confused with DJ 220 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,200 Triple Trouble Field Marshall's band Jerry, which is really 221 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,280 interesting. DJ Lord. 222 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,200 Lord Do. How do you pronounce that Lord 223 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,920 the box MC Is that actually how you say it? 224 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,520 I don't know why. I said. 225 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,520 That I don't know why you do that either. 226 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,840 I think it's Punjab and MC Jorah, you had mentioned like 227 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,320 it's really interesting seeing MCS as performers. 228 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,480 Why? Why is that an interesting thing 229 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,560 to you? This is just a breaking the 4th 230 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:35,960 war, I said because I mentioned about seeing MCS prior to the US 231 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,520 recording the podcast. So this whole podcast is just 232 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,920 breaking the 4th I'm. So sorry. 233 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,840 Like we're human beings, bro. Like it's, it's, we'll have, 234 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,680 we'll have more. Future because people listen 235 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,520 people listening to this are like wait what did afam say that 236 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,080 I. Didn't I? 237 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:51,920 Didn't. Oh, my bad. 238 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,960 Yeah. So you were having a 239 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,360 conversation before. Oh, this is horrible. 240 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,280 This is so bad. Anyway, shout out to everyone 241 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,000 who came out and performed. It would have been really good 242 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:10,800 to go for that on Sunday Salve. I'm so sorry. 243 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,200 Continue OK, no, but you know, like honestly, shout out to all 244 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,200 these people. I'm really happy when Jerry 245 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,840 though, like Jerry is really like. 246 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,760 Just like she's climbing up, yeah. 247 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,720 She's climbing up the ladder and that's, it's really good to see, 248 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,680 man. I feel like for me it's like, 249 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,840 yeah, mutorial as well. I feel like that song OTD is 250 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,360 like that's the catalyst that just like put everything in 251 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,720 motion. Fire. 252 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Yeah, so Charlotte in July, obviously Charisma had to be 253 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,080 there. Charisma has been one of the 254 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,520 most outspoken artists like during this period. 255 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,400 And obviously BN, Calligraph Jones, you know, Fenna, 256 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Nameless, those are names which actually I've also been very 257 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,080 vocal to be honest. It will have been good to see. 258 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,520 It will be good to see S to Seoul up there like this will 259 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,960 be. This will be a good one for them 260 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,920 to come together, right? We saw, we saw BN, we saw BN. 261 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,680 I'm saying together if I see like all three, only if I see 262 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,520 BN, it's enough of it. You see? 263 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,360 You see all of them. OK, Yeah, it's all right, man. 264 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,240 But yeah, no, this is really. Good, that sounds mean. 265 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,640 Sorry, I'm joking. This is no, no, I mean, this is 266 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,080 really cool. It's cool to see our artists 267 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,720 come out and support. I do think that they, I mean, I 268 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,280 wish there were more names, but I do understand maybe short 269 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,960 notice and there's a lot that goes into planning this kind of 270 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,760 things individually as if you're treating yourself as a business. 271 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,240 So but it would be cool to see like a lot more names on their 272 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,560 names who have been outspoken about not just now, but then 273 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,280 like in previous times about the government and all that 274 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,200 business. But anyway, hey, we can't we 275 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,440 can't just say, you know, we want more. 276 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,400 This is like really, it's a really good thing that happens, 277 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,760 so, and they made it free too, so. 278 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,040 So, yeah, and, and, and obviously the, the main, the 279 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,520 main, main point of it all, to memorialize the people who lost 280 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,520 their lives, unfortunately, you know, may they rest in peace. 281 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,480 And yeah, that's, that's just the most important part. 282 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,080 But that's just seeing the videos. 283 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,680 I saw them playing like unboggable and like everybody in 284 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,360 the crowd singing it. And I'm just like unboggable. 285 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,760 I I think, bro, it's safe to say that's like one of Kenya's 286 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,320 biggest songs ever. It's in the top three. 287 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,240 And it's not three, like in terms of country music. 288 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,320 Yeah, and it's not 3. Like that song is so impactful. 289 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,920 All these years later, it's still so entrenched in Kenyan 290 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,560 culture. We played it last week and I I 291 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,440 noticed this. Yeah, this is just a, this is a 292 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,760 side like production technical talk. 293 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,200 But I noticed it's in mono. Like I've not had unbolgable in 294 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,720 stereo. I don't really exist anywhere in 295 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,880 stereo except probably the producers. 296 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,359 What do you call it on DSPS? It's in mono and that was that 297 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,720 was I was really confused about that. 298 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,920 But anyway, anyway, petition to replace it with the stereo 299 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,839 version, please. Thank you. 300 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:14,520 All right. Yeah. 301 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:20,319 So, so I guess, you know, we can, I think we can, we can, we 302 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:22,680 can talk about a few. So, you know, this past few 303 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,640 weeks we've, we've really been hyper focused and the whole 304 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,720 country has been on what's been happening, you know, with our 305 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,320 politics, so much so that nothing has been moving. 306 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,520 People have barely been releasing music and stuff like 307 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,960 that. But I've noticed this week 308 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,320 people have been releasing a little bit more music. 309 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,720 There's, there's a little bit, there's a little bit more 310 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,680 conversation outside of what's happening, which is not to say 311 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:56,360 that the main focus isn't still to like get these politicians 312 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,320 out of here. But you know, life continues. 313 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Life does continue. So one thing, one thing, one 314 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,360 thing that just happened this past few weeks that we, we 315 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:11,480 really didn't even, we didn't even have the time to like talk 316 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,920 about it was camp. Did you see the news with camp 317 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,800 recently? Some more news with camp. 318 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,280 Yeah. So I mean, you can enjoy it, but 319 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,920 basically it's the dance still continues. 320 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,720 I guess with these guys it does. The dance is ever going to stop. 321 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,320 So I don't think so. So because there's so much money 322 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,120 out of our money that's involved. 323 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,760 So we, we talked about Camp in the last podcast we had that was 324 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,160 focused on music. We talked about them holding 325 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,800 they held like a press conference where they awarded 326 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,080 like BN with with money and stuff like that. 327 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,800 So Camp apparently have been granted permission by the High 328 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,000 Court to continue its operations. 329 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,840 Obviously we've reported about how Kobo granted POV Risk the 330 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:08,880 sole right to collect royalties as the sole CMO in the country, 331 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,000 and they gave them a contract for a year to do so. 332 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,280 Camp said. Nah, bro, listen, run that back. 333 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,640 That shit's that's just not right. 334 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,160 It's not right Michael, it's not right. 335 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,560 Anybody who watches F1 will understand what I mean. 336 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,240 So essentially for so this follows the decision to 337 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,440 challenge Kobo's move to license a single CMO. 338 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:39,280 So we, so this is a quote by, I want to say Angela Dambuki, 339 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,920 where she says we are pleased to announce that on 24th June 2024, 340 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,160 Camp obtained a stay against the irregular and unlawful decision 341 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:55,400 by Kobo licensing the POV risk formerly known as Prisk as their 342 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:00,560 sole CMO. So essentially I'm just going to 343 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,120 like summarize, they are essentially claiming that Kobo 344 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:11,200 choosing to license Prisk as the sole CMO is actually unlawful. 345 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:18,480 And it's, it's, it's, it was, it was not, what's the word? 346 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,480 It wasn't done with like. It wasn't above board, 347 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,320 essentially. And people feel like, yeah, 348 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,600 people feel like it's just a ploy to kind of like eat more of 349 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,040 the money and stuff like that. Because like we said, an audit 350 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:42,160 was done for Prisk and it was found to be the CMO that 351 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,720 distributed the least money in 2023. 352 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,760 So there's definitely issues there some how do you feel about 353 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,760 like camp, like fighting back? I feel like camp, I think camp 354 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,040 have some really good points like in their argument you, how 355 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,920 do you feel about it? Yeah. 356 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,760 If we're talking about argument, yes, they in the recent past 357 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,720 have I mean, and I've seen support for camp from some 358 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,640 people in the industry that we would consider a little bit more 359 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,400 knowledgeable rather than and I've not seen much support to 360 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:28,720 the other two, Pavrisk and MCSK. But in all honesty, I do feel 361 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,920 like artists at this point, we should I, I, I love what the 362 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,880 parallel. I would like to make a parallel 363 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,480 with what's happening in like the country, like artists. 364 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,360 We, we, we should all seriously band together and try and figure 365 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,600 this out now. We should I mean, I need to 366 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,880 occupy one of these places at some point because. 367 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,040 Some, some. You're speaking the language 368 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,600 right now. This is ridiculous. 369 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Yeah. It's what we're doing currently 370 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,480 in the country is amazing because we've seen how how just 371 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,640 banding together and demanding for what should be to happen 372 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,840 from the people who've entrusted this too. 373 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,520 We need to do that in the music industry. 374 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:16,400 We need to take these guys to task the days of MCSK paying out 375 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,720 12 shillings for the whole year or 100 shillings 1200 for the 376 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:27,440 whole year when we know that that isn't right. 377 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,960 Like it, if we let that keep going on, it's just on us. 378 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,160 So this whole thing with with Kekobo and them saying, OK, do 379 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,960 this person can have the licenses and they take it back. 380 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,600 No, you can't have it. Let's give it to this other 381 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,080 guys. And then now this other guys 382 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,600 come and complain like this whole thing, this shouldn't be 383 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,160 how how our royalty collection is run. 384 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,000 This shouldn't be how the music industry, this shouldn't be the 385 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,840 reputation of the Kenyan music industry. 386 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,320 But unfortunately that's all we see except now the little 387 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,560 pockets of people who are doing distribution with other, other 388 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,040 companies and mostly companies from outside, not companies from 389 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,440 within Kenya, right? So we do need to do that. 390 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,800 I think, I think I, I would really honestly charge the 391 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,040 people who and we might need to follow the, the blueprints too. 392 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,760 Like everyone just needs to band together in no matter what 393 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,000 happens. And we've seen, we've seen other 394 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,200 industries do this, like even the, the, the medics, like, you 395 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,600 know, they, they do the interns and everything like going on 396 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,120 strike. Honestly, Sam, there is so much 397 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,880 money being finessed. We did the math, bro, in that 398 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,120 one podcast. There's so much, the, the only 399 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:39,000 reason they're fighting tooth and nail for this whole CMO 400 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,920 thing is because there's just so much money that that's owed to 401 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:50,400 us creatives and artists that bro, we just can't sit by and 402 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,920 watch them, like watch them like this. 403 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,400 Clamour for it. Yeah, while we are getting like, 404 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:01,080 drops, yeah, man. Like artists, producers, whoever 405 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,560 you are. Like we really need to start 406 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:12,160 banding together and purposefully working to ensure 407 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,360 that the music industry works how it's. 408 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,120 Supposed to work, Sam. It's so embarrassing that the 409 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:24,560 international community is even taking note of the mess that's 410 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:32,400 going on with our CMOS because listen, recently the the CEO of 411 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,120 IFPI actually issued a statement over what's happening with our 412 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:43,480 CMO like Saga and I'm reading now in a joint statement issued 413 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,800 by IFPICEO. So basically IFPI are the guys 414 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,040 who you know, the guys who usually do the yearly report 415 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,520 over what's. Around them, yeah. 416 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,240 Yeah, like they give all the statistics what is, is streaming 417 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,360 still the biggest like way music is being confirmed, IFPI have 418 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,200 all the data about that. So they're really a good data 419 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,560 source of what's happening in the music industry. 420 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,560 So anyway, so in a joint statement issued by IFPICEO, 421 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:20,160 Victoria Oakley and Sizak Director General Gadi Oron, I 422 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,000 hope I've pronounced that well. The two organizations asked 423 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,360 Kekobo to reconsider its decision to award a license to 424 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:31,760 PAV Risk to collectively manage performance and broadcast rights 425 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,200 as a single window licensor in the country. 426 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,920 The statement continues. In order to protect and ensure 427 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,640 the future sustainability of the music sector in Kenya, we urge 428 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,080 Kakobo to reconsider its decision. 429 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,200 With its rich musical heritage and abundance of diverse and 430 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,320 talented artists, Kenya is one of the leading music markets in 431 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,480 sub-Saharan Africa, the fastest growing recorded music region in 432 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,000 the world. A well functioning and efficient 433 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,800 CM collected collective management system that 434 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,440 effectively manages the rights of music creators and producers 435 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,560 and act actively no and accurately distributes revenues 436 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,480 to them is fundamental to its continued growth and success. 437 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Essentially, they're in line with what Camp is raising in 438 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,280 terms of the concerns about what's happening with this whole 439 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:30,520 risk and POV risk thing. Yeah, essentially they're also 440 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,560 just kind of agreeing that this whole pub risk thing looks 441 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,240 sketchy. And listen, if, if, if, if, if I 442 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,200 have one thing on their side is data they have. 443 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,760 They know how much money these guys are eating. 444 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,840 They know how much money should be distributed to our artists. 445 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,480 And so for them to come out of the statement, it, it holds a 446 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,280 lot of weight. In fact, I would, I wish we 447 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,000 could talk to the CEO just to find out like the real numbers 448 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,800 because Sam, that's always been one of my biggest like concerns 449 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,720 is that no matter what they tell us, if they tell us that, 450 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,800 remember we came up with a calculation and, and we, we 451 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,000 calculated that it's about 530 million like Kenya shillings to 452 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,560 be collected this year. Like, but even that might not be 453 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,200 an accurate figure like number. Yeah. 454 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,760 So I'd I'd really want to know like what's objectively like 455 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,400 supposed to be collected in Kenya so we know to the extent 456 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,720 of which these people are stealing from us. 457 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,080 So. Once, like if we get that 458 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,720 information and put that out to the people, yeah, If that 459 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,120 doesn't get people going, then I don't know what will at this 460 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,960 point. We need to organize. 461 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,000 We actually need to organize a protest against this, this, this 462 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,280 CMOS. No, I'm more. 463 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,480 Protests no more protest era. While the spirit, yeah, while 464 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,400 the spirit of protesting is still within a of protesting, 465 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:04,480 yeah, for real, because. Bro anyway bro a protest not OK. 466 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,680 There isn't protest now. Peaceful, of course. 467 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,920 Yeah, a revolt, I guess in the music industry is long overdue. 468 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,200 Like it's long overdue. We should have been doing this 469 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,240 for a while now because this is ridiculous and how they're that 470 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,520 it's been treated. And like I said, for the 471 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,200 international people to to notice that because now if IFPI 472 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,600 noticed that and then now all the other, all the countries 473 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,280 that are sort of tapped into what IFPI is doing and they look 474 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,120 at Kenya's, they mess happened in Kenya. 475 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,920 It's going to deter a lot of people from wanting to invest in 476 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,080 Kenyan music. It might deter a lot of labels 477 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,200 from asking the artists to come and sort of collaborate with 478 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,040 African artists. So it does this. 479 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,720 We report on we report on this a couple of a couple of times and 480 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,600 it might seem very trivial, like OK, they're just infighting. 481 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:59,000 But it has a lot of implications in the grand. 482 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Like if you look at it on a wider scale, you look at the 483 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,720 bigger picture, there's a lot of implications of us of the 484 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,000 turmoil and just the indecisive nature and the weirdness going 485 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,120 on with just royalty collection and just how music is being 486 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,320 administrated in the country. So we definitely need to get on 487 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,560 track because it's I think it's it's a it's an important part of 488 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,040 the Kenyan music industry gets get into that next level 489 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160 growing. So yeah, sad that we keep 490 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,400 talking about this though. Sad. 491 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Really annoying. Speaking of, Speaking of the US 492 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,920 getting to, Speaking of us getting to the next level, Sam. 493 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,480 Yeah. When are we going to have a 494 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,360 Kenyan artist like at the BT Awards? 495 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,240 When see I can't really say what I want to say. 496 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,640 Let me see if this is like an PC. 497 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,760 That says everything. That was that was going to come 498 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,960 out. That was that was you almost got 499 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,400 me there. You almost you almost got me. 500 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Put me in trouble. Don't blame me. 501 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,800 No, I mean, that would be great to see, right? 502 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,400 That would be great to see, Yeah. 503 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560 The last, what was the last, actually, we need to do some 504 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,880 research. That was don't I don't tell me 505 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,000 the last people we had on BT was Kampala, because that would be 506 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,640 really. Some I will. 507 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,760 I will cry. I will, no. 508 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,280 Maybe somewhere there, maybe, I don't know. 509 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,280 But if it's Kampala Sam, I will break down in tears. 510 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,280 On my knees right now yeah. So I hope I hope we have a name 511 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,560 like I'm pretty sure Saudis. So what there sometime maybe 512 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:41,520 hopefully praying. But yes, I, I, I think, I think 513 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,480 we're getting there. I think we have a few names that 514 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,720 will potentially. Might still have a way to get us 515 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,480 on that, if I'm being honest, but but it's doable. 516 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,960 It's doable in the foreseeable future. 517 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,000 I see it, I see it. There has to be a lot of work 518 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,960 done. I don't sound like a like a 519 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,680 it's. It's it's def. 520 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,920 Pessimistic, but it's doable. No, no, it's definitely doable. 521 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,960 So basically, Sam, did you, did you pay attention to the BT 522 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,160 Awards that happened last week? I paid attention to it, but I 523 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:25,520 didn't, I, I didn't give I, it was it, my attention wasn't 524 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,440 specifically on the BT Awards. It was just more about the talk 525 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,240 around it. So I guess I, I probably should 526 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,840 have done a little bit more research, but then it was more 527 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160 about the talk around it, you know, the tribute to Usher and 528 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,760 just the nature of how the whole thing went down, the apparent 529 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,160 lack of male performance performances. 530 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,320 But yeah. To be honest, to be honest not. 531 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,640 What you're talking about? To be honest, I'm, I'm not 532 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,120 really too into like the BT awards anymore. 533 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,080 I, I feel like there was a time in my life when the BT Awards 534 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,960 held such a big part of my, my just even what my identity as a 535 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,080 human being. Like if I didn't watch the BT 536 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,760 Awards, who are my but nowadays I don't feel that anymore. 537 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,000 But anyway, I I want to say they, you know, yeah, they but 538 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,520 but they did acknowledge a few African artists. 539 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:22,640 And this year three African artists were notably won awards, 540 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,720 the artist in question being Tyler Thames and Mahadzi. 541 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,560 So obviously Tyler, bro, Tyler is getting the push of a 542 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,760 lifetime. Like so Tyler. 543 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760 Yeah, yeah, bro. She she better have some shit in 544 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,680 the talk though, like for this second album that I'm sure she's 545 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,000 working on and thinking about. Right now, her sophomore album 546 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,640 has to it really she can't she can't hit us with a sophomore 547 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,240 slump. The the music industry does not 548 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,560 care. It's. 549 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200 Brutal. I I can really just be working 550 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,160 on. Some anxiety. 551 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,880 She has some. Proper music she needs. 552 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,880 She needs another water. But that's the thing though, you 553 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,640 can't make a delicious hit, though. 554 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840 You can't get another water. You can't make another water. 555 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,520 That's the problem with being an artist. 556 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Like people think it's just like, oh, just make another 557 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,160 water and you'll be fine. How you can't. 558 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,120 And then the, the, the, the, the biggest crossroad is like, OK, 559 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,360 I, I need to also evolve. But evolving sometimes alienates 560 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360 your core fan base. So like even that's what's kind 561 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,920 of happening with the Remmer right now. 562 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,640 Although I must say, me, I'm a fan. 563 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,720 Me, I'm a fan of what you're doing. 564 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,680 I stepped away from that poppy sound. 565 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,800 Like Duck, I like that stuff. It's good. 566 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,840 It's different. Villain before her eyes. 567 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,520 But but some, there's a lot of people who don't like the 568 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,600 direction that Rama is going on. And that's the that's the fear. 569 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,040 And for Tyler, Tyler can't because she's very new. 570 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,720 So she can't do what Rama is doing. 571 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,320 Grandma has had like five years to establish himself. 572 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,520 Tyler has only had one year. So it's and it's it's hard, but 573 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,520 like and it's hard. And then when she releases her 574 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,320 project, everyone is like like, oh, all the songs sound the same 575 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,239 and stuff like this. It's like, what do you even do, 576 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,960 man? It's anyway this? 577 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,639 Is some of the pains that a new artist have to has has to has to 578 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,560 face like hey, you came into the game this figure it out. 579 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,960 She's she's still relatively new, even though she's kind of 580 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,760 been doing music for a while, she's still relatively new. 581 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,480 So let's give her time, man. That's that's not true. 582 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,679 But shout out to her man. Congratulations, she won. 583 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,560 So she won, yeah, she she won best international act over Asha 584 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:40,000 K, Ira, star vocalistic Aya Nakamura, BK Cleoso, Carol 585 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Conquer Ray and even Ray. She beat Ray and Tiakola. 586 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,560 Bro and song could do so much for you. 587 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,280 It can change your life. Literally the viewer's choice. 588 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,080 Best new international act went to Mahadzi who beat Tyler, ICU, 589 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:02,840 Shay vibes, Bella, Crystal Duques, Holly Ji, Jungali and 590 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,560 Oram. I really need to get more into 591 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,880 like reggaeton and stuff. And then the other African 592 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,560 winner was Thames who I believe won gave me. 593 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,640 OK, well first best new artist went to Tyler. 594 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,280 That's huge because she beat out 41 four bats Ira star boss 595 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,880 Mandino Friday, October London and sexy Red. 596 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,240 Sexy Red must have been fuming, especially considering Sexy Red 597 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,000 perform and she must have been like what? 598 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Everyone you're going to make me perform and then yeah, everyone 599 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,720 expected. But I would have given it to 600 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:44,720 Friday though. I know that's controversial, but 601 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,160 given Friday that. I haven't had, I haven't heard 602 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,720 much about Friday ever since the whole thing with. 603 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120 Oh, I have, I have. I like I like his music, so I've 604 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,160 been following him. Yeah, but to us on that list, 605 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,840 but to us mainstreamers, like we don't see him on our like, 606 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,800 because I can't say I'm a Friday fan. 607 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,280 I'm just a casual. Like we don't get, we don't see 608 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,320 him on our, like he doesn't pop up on our timelines. 609 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,480 Yeah, Tyler does a lot. And sexy red but sexy red must 610 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,000 be fuming. But shout out to Tyler. 611 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,440 So Tyler won two so far. So there was also the Doctor 612 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,440 Bobby Jones best gospel slash inspirational awards and terms 613 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,400 one with her song Me and you bro. 614 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,000 She beat out people like Kirk Franklin and CeCe Winans 615 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,400 Franklin. First of all, was was was 616 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,280 nominated twice and he and she still beat him. 617 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:47,360 This is some heavy heaters that she she beat out. 618 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,400 So shout out to Thames. Let's see. 619 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,240 And the other is there another one? 620 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,720 Oh, this is cap. I'm sorry, this isn't really 621 00:36:55,720 --> 00:37:01,000 like music, but listen, best movie went to Bob Marley for one 622 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,920 love listen. I love Bob Marley as much as the 623 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,040 next person, and I watched that movie, but that movie. 624 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,960 Was the new one best movie? The. 625 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,080 New the latest Bob Marley movie. I'm so sorry. 626 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,280 That I've seen so many of them. That I'm sorry bro. 627 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,480 It won over Spider Man, Across the spider, Vice the spider. 628 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,000 Vice, I'm sorry. See, see, see, that's see. 629 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,680 That's wild. Now we need to, we need to stop 630 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,840 that. I'm sorry, that's blasphemous. 631 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,400 It wasn't, bro. I'm sorry. 632 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,600 I listen. I love Bob Marley as much as the 633 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,440 next person, but like, that movie was that movie was. 634 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,360 Over the scoping, please. Are you afraid? 635 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,840 You're afraid they're going to do something to you. 636 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,960 They're going to try to cancel me, man, because I have dreads, 637 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,240 man. They're going to be like, brah, 638 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,920 cut those dreads. Hey, they're Rastas. 639 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,360 They're Rastas. Oh, they are Rastas. 640 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,400 Sorry, we were told not to call them dreads. 641 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,360 How? Am I collecting you and I don't 642 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,200 have any? Those are the African winners 643 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,360 of. Those are the African winners of 644 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,440 from BET. Next time we want to see names 645 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,720 like BN. What's the Kenyan name, man? 646 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:06,080 Want to see Bien? Want to see Caroon? 647 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,200 You want to see Alpha Mephena? You know, I don't know. 648 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600 Don't mean I'm just throwing names out there, you know? 649 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,520 Just. Yeah, you know. 650 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,400 Just part of it, Yeah. I mean, I mean, let's do music, 651 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,920 man. And I I I wish that for you, my 652 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,400 guy. I wish that for you, my friend. 653 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,960 I wish nothing but the best for you. 654 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,760 What did Adele say? Never mind. 655 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,880 I'll find Someone Like You. I found out something. 656 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,080 But the best? I just want to tell you guys I 657 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,080 found out some very interesting information about Adele. 658 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,800 But anyway. I'm not ashamed to say it. 659 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,040 I'm not ashamed to say it though. 660 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,800 I won't say it though. But I'm not ashamed to say it, 661 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,480 no. No, it's OK. 662 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:45,920 It's OK. It's. 663 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:46,880 Cool. I'm standing on. 664 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,200 I'm standing on business. I'm standing on my square. 665 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,600 You can knock me out of that square. 666 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Standing on it. 667 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,840 The last thing we should talk about before music, before 668 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,880 music, before the last thing I saw blankets and wine was was 669 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,720 was postponed. So it was, yeah, it was supposed 670 00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:08,280 to happen this Sunday. But obviously they said that 671 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,400 they weren't sure because of security concerns and some roads 672 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,520 would be closed here and then stuff like that. 673 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,000 So it looks like it's been pushed to the 28th of July. 674 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,840 So I mean that's not too that's three weeks from now. 675 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,480 So that's not too bad. So I'm sure all ticket holders. 676 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,720 Are just some more time to. Prepare appointed. 677 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,840 It does. I think it's OK. 678 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,760 I think yeah, I think this Saturday I think is not bad. 679 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,960 Let me see who do you know who was scheduled to be on this week 680 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,120 on this? On the line up. 681 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,120 This month, yeah, the line up. On the blankets line up, line up 682 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,600 Yeah, I can see we have Yaba, Sun IP, because that's Sun IP. 683 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,040 Tandy, where is she? It's kind of been disappearing. 684 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:57,520 Nikita Kerring, we have Dagos, yeah, Bensol something Soweto 685 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,720 from South Africa. I wonder if he's from Soweto. 686 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,160 I mean that's just and then we have Savara and I'm sure there's 687 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,320 going to be like other like I don't say smaller to minimize 688 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,800 them, but then so. This and this and this and this 689 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,840 and. Line up so. 690 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,120 This and line up. This and line up man yeah, so. 691 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,120 Listen, you, I'm not seeing how many fam when I look at this 692 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,280 line up. So when I look at these line 693 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,000 ups, I don't see so many hip hop acts. 694 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,760 That's like a thing like we don't have a lot of hip hop 695 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,360 acts. It's just a lot of Afro beats, 696 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,600 yeah. But hip hop isn't like big big 697 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,200 like. That it's not yeah, we need to 698 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,920 have that composition at some point because. 699 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,920 It's only niche. It's very niche. 700 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,520 Like to like specific audiences, Yeah. 701 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,720 Back then hip hop used to be really cool, like it was the 702 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,520 Tanzania and Kenya, like there's some good hip hop coming out. 703 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,360 But then now it's just it's so quiet. 704 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:50,480 I mean, someone needs to start a riot. 705 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,600 Someone needs to Kendrick Kendrick the game and start a 706 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,640 riot in the Kenyan hip hop scene. 707 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,720 You can do that. Some you can do be the. 708 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,320 Producer who sparks you have actually thought about that I've 709 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,560 actually thought in fact this is this is embarrassing, but I've 710 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,600 actually D I've deemed a couple of artists with that specific 711 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,760 angle like listen the Kenyan game yeah the Kenyan game needs 712 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,560 to be needs to be turned upside its head. 713 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,000 Sadly, I don't think they are the. 714 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,640 People who would deliver that message really well would be 715 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,520 Kanakili Hippie. Yeah, but it needs to be like a, 716 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,880 it needs to be like a spark. It needs to be a, a, a very big 717 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,440 kerfuffle, like a, like a talked about thing where artists stop 718 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,120 jumping into, Yeah, artists stop jumping into, into, into. 719 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,680 No, let me. Let me drop some buzz. 720 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,160 I know who I target, but I wouldn't say I know who I would. 721 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,000 Target on the podcast. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 722 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,480 I can't give everybody all myself. 723 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,040 It's keeping information. Another way in music you are. 724 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,640 Complaining about gatekeeping and here you are gatekeeping. 725 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,480 More breaking of the four musics. 726 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,080 These four walls are so flimsy man. 727 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,600 I've never seen flimsier 4 walls than this one. 728 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,040 These are. These are made out of drywall. 729 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,520 This is drywall. Photos just need to just need to 730 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,600 blow. On them lightly, anyway. 731 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:14,800 Oh, that pause music. Anyway, don't look at me like. 732 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,240 That new music, man, New music moving there's. 733 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,680 Been a lot of music. That has come out there. 734 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:22,800 Yeah. There's been a lot of music. 735 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,040 Of course, we're still in the era of the protest, protest era. 736 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,520 So there's a lot of music that's very protest based, protest 737 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,760 themed. We have I don't, I, I, if you, 738 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,040 if you, if I miss out a couple, please put them. 739 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,880 I want to put those ones in the spotlight 1st and then we get 740 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,920 into the rest. Whip Zazakayo by It's Deco and 741 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,000 fancy fingers, of course. Zakah is the nickname of Yeah, 742 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:56,600 let's see Freedom by Yani again based around that theme we do 743 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,320 have. Willie Paul has a song in that 744 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,480 also. It's just a special outside. 745 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,920 I like it when the younger, the younger artists chime in on 746 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,160 their opinion, which is really cool. 747 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,720 I've I've seen some really creative. 748 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:13,560 There are people who are doing creative things out there with 749 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,720 just the whole the whole protest music. 750 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:20,000 But that's cool. Yeah. 751 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,760 But apart from that, we have a couple of drops Brooklyn boys 752 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,840 released into that. Let's see, Let's see. 753 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,000 Let's see, Let's see, let's see, let's see. 754 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,600 He's going to run through them quick. 755 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:37,720 Parotti Tiami official banner with Tiba. 756 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,520 We have all with Sam Anami. Feel free to chime in whenever 757 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,720 you can. I'm, I'm, I'm just going through 758 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:47,440 the long, long. Method you're going through 759 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,960 everything. OK, so for me, I listen to to 760 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,760 Chase by zero, Sufuri YBW Smith and Sean MMG. 761 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,160 That's that classic classic urban tone sound. 762 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,520 I'm also listening to Tajirisha Make yourself very rich or 763 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,560 actually I think they were saying that make this girl very 764 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,400 rich. Anyway sound craft spoiler and 765 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,840 tipsy G shout out to them. More urban tone for your head 766 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,800 top. There was also killer Siku by 767 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:20,960 master VK and Iano ranking. There was Samanami by Ori. 768 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,800 Shout out to Ori, I think she's new ish so shout out to her. 769 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:30,840 There was Zakayo Shuka by Master VK making the total number of 770 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,120 songs that came out this week with the name Zakayo in them 771 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,320 too. There was Why you rude by 772 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,480 blocker beats Hiribai and Jiggy Yo. 773 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,920 I'm always down to listen to some Hiribai production. 774 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,040 Man Hiribai has been a staple since EA Wave. 775 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,800 Oh my God, when's the last time somebody said? 776 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,480 SoundCloud days. Legendary, Legendary, legendary. 777 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,120 Yeah. For me, that's kind of all I 778 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,800 listen to this week. It's good to see people are 779 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,480 starting to release more music, though. 780 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,240 Yeah. I mean, it's not much, but then 781 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,720 it's something. Yeah, it's something. 782 00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:06,880 It's something. Outside now. 783 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,600 For me, bro, I think the song that I'd like to highlight this 784 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,600 week just also because it's still within the themes of what 785 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,480 everybody's thinking about right now, would be to Mechoka by 786 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,320 Keithan. Because actually, genuinely, 787 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,720 we're tired. We are very tired with this 788 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:30,200 current regime in government. And I like, I like Keithan's. 789 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,720 I like Keithan's. I like his approach. 790 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,760 I like his creativity. He obviously posted that video 791 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,840 of him making the beat with the instrument and stuff like that. 792 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,680 Shout out to him. Yeah. 793 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,280 Yeah. Sam, did you? 794 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,680 What did you think of the song? It's cool. 795 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,240 It's cool. I mean, we're definitely tired 796 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:54,120 to me, Chaka. We're also tired getting to my 797 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,640 wit end with all this Kobo drama to me, Chaka. 798 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,640 Yeah, but that's someone needs to make a different song for 799 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,400 that. Yeah, it's cool. 800 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,400 Kitan is obviously a he has a lot of support and he's a well 801 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,320 loved artist so it's it's good to see. 802 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,400 Oh he's well loved. I went through the comments and 803 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,680 everybody was just like in support. 804 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,680 So shout out to Kitan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 805 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,960 He's built. I think he's built. 806 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,960 He's built his people, which is really good to do as an artist. 807 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,920 So shout out to him for doing that. 808 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,560 Yeah. So this is Kitan with Tumay 809 00:46:27,800 --> 00:48:05,720 Choka I. 810 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:22,880 That was Keithan with Tummy Choka again, very, very good to 811 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,320 hear some music about what we're dealing with. 812 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,280 And yeah, I'm sure there's going to be more continuing. 813 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,040 But then as people keep releasing music, yeah, it's I 814 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,800 want to see artists back outside, man. 815 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,640 I know it's, I'm not trying to minimize what's going on, but 816 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,560 I'd just like to see more artists get, get back outside 817 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:45,080 and, and let's, let's, let's, let's keep going and working on 818 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,800 music, trying to release, getting better, aiming for our 819 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,920 collective goal as the music industry in Kenya is to get a BT 820 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,320 award. I don't know if this is the bad 821 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,160 thing to say. No, it's not a. 822 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,560 Collective goal. It's just it's. 823 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,200 Part. It's part and parcel of that. 824 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,080 It's part of it, OK? I'm sorry. 825 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,240 I'm sorry. But like, it's not, it's not the 826 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,440 main goal. Our main goal is world 827 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,800 domination, Sam. Everybody needs to be singing. 828 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,800 Of course. Oh, come on. 829 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,960 Yeah, yeah. March into our. 830 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,920 Domination. Yes man. 831 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,920 Anyway. Anyway, shout out to you guys as 832 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,920 always for listening to this fantastic podcast about the 833 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,400 music industry in the East African country called Kenya. 834 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,320 That was episode 84, Man of the 30% podcast. 835 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,200 We've been doing this for a while, Sam. 836 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,800 I feel like I feel like, is that 84 now? 837 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,960 5. This is 84. 838 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,440 This is 84100%. Don't, don't, Don't put your 839 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,840 spirit of doubt into my soul, Sam. 840 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:53,160 Anyway that. Sounds so serious, I just tried 841 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,000 to. Yeah, because you made me doubt 842 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,440 myself. Of doubt. 843 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,760 Yeah, what did you make me doubt? 844 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,480 Myself, I'm so sorry. I believe in you bro, believe in 845 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,680 you. Speaking of believing in me, I 846 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,840 also believe in you guys listening to this podcast, and I 847 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,880 know I haven't done this in a while, but I want to regale you 848 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,960 guys with my three CS, which I usually push at the end of the 849 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,640 podcast. And those are the first one is 850 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,120 confidence. Guys. 851 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,960 I need you guys to be confident in your art. 852 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,000 Like I know we're coming out of a very difficult period. 853 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,760 I'm in the country and you know, confidence has been at a all 854 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,520 time low and when it comes to like all these other like 855 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,560 creative aspects, but I feel like people are are slowly 856 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,920 getting that confidence to like get back into things and get 857 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,400 into the swing of like creating. So be confidence, please be 858 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,440 confident, please consistency. You all need to be consistent. 859 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,760 Now I understand with what's been happening music wise, like 860 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,120 it was hard to be consistent, especially when your mind is 861 00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,720 thinking about other things. But in general I'd love you guys 862 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:05,000 to just be consistent because you never know, you might 863 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,320 release music at the right time and only because you've been 864 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,520 consistent with releasing music. One person who showed me that 865 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,120 consistency's keys like Sabi Wu. You know, like Sabi Wu is 866 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,120 somebody who's consistently making music and you'd for him, 867 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:26,520 like I've seen people releasing like music that's protest based, 868 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,440 like like now for example. And that's fine and that's fine. 869 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,440 But you see, because Sabi Wu is always recording music and he's 870 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,720 always ready. Like that's why he released that 871 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:42,840 song like instantly. And for him, like it's done 872 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,480 wonders, like just being there at the right time. 873 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,080 So shout out to Sabi Wu, shout out to him being consistent and 874 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,360 always work on your craft. I need you guys to every day at 875 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,720 least do something small. Even if it's something that 876 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:03,360 takes 5 minutes, just do it. If you want to watch like brah, 877 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,720 I was telling some before the podcast I watched a tutorial 878 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,200 that literally changed my production. 879 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,040 Like just because I even if you you've been making music for a 880 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,360 while, always be open to watching a tutorial, learning 881 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,720 something new because you can learn something so small that 882 00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:22,840 goes a long way in changing everything for you. 883 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:29,000 So always work on your craft and those are the three C's by me. 884 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,560 Yeah, man, I was. Looking for something? 885 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,400 Yeah, I, I, I most of what I say at the end is geared towards 886 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,920 like new artists, but it also could, could work with like 887 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,720 fatigued artists. But this one today is just for 888 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:46,360 new artists. Like just something to think 889 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,840 about. Imagine if you began when you 890 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,320 said you were going to begin like you would be so much. 891 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,800 Farther. Now than you are so somebody to 892 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,360 think about like the best. Time to start to think about. 893 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:07,200 The best time to start to start, Don't wait, don't procrastinate. 894 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:17,800 There's your rhyme, yo. Episode 84 bro. 895 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,800 Thank you for listening to us. We're done. 896 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,040 I don't know. See you guys on episode 85. 897 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,000 Oh my gosh.