1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Just a side piece, we got a little bit of of of hate for our 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,760 for our our view. On Oh yeah, So Oh my God, 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,200 Tanzania hates this podcast, guys. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,600 Yeah, this is Or Tanzania. We're done. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,320 This is, this is not, this is not good to be ever played in 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,040 Tanzania. But no, I mean so so and not to 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,800 explain, because we don't need to explain ourselves, right? 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,320 First of all, it's just the opinions. 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,280 It's our opinions. And that's that verse was still 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:57,960 objectively not good. The What is going on? 11 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Everybody welcome to the 30% Podcast. 12 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,720 I am your host. I am Sam. 13 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,880 I am here with my Co host. The wonderful, The most amazing. 14 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,640 The fabulous. The dreaded. 15 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,600 No What? What did Antonio Soul say we 16 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,760 should call them? The Rastad. 17 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,600 The Rastad AFA me Funa. This is episode 64 AFAAM. 18 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Do you want to say hi? What's up? 19 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:23,960 What's up? Great. 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,120 This episode 64 This Podcast. You can You can You can catch 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,920 this podcast on Spotify. You can catch this podcast on 22 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,920 Apple Podcast. You can catch this podcast on 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Google Podcast. You can catch us on, what else? 24 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,280 YouTube, if that's your kind of thing. 25 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,080 And we're also on social media. That's the 30% pod on Instagram, 26 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,320 on X, on Threads. What other social media site is 27 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,720 there? We're also on LinkedIn. 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,440 I don't know. Is there another social media 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,160 site? Am I missing one? 30 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,000 No, I don't think so. But anyways, yes, so and then 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,200 you can also catch us in real life. 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,800 We are two real human beings. Yeah, that was as smooth as I 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,400 could make it afam. What's up? 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,639 What's up, man? How are you? 35 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,440 Yeah, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. 36 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,880 Just really tired. Sorry. 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Not usually the hour we record, but. 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,680 Yeah, man. This is what it is. 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,640 Let's not make the 4th wall too too much. 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,280 But that's that's not fun. It's always fun. 41 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,120 Breaking the 4th wall is actually really fun, man. 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,200 I enjoy it. I enjoy. 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,120 I enjoy. I enjoy shattering the the 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,000 illusions that corporate, the corporate world has put in front 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,360 of us. I enjoy shattering them. 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,280 How? Tell me how. 47 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,080 How was your week, man? My week was good, man. 48 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,160 I watched. I finally watched the Dune 49 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,400 movie. I hadn't watched it. 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,360 That's the Timothy Chalamet and the ladies and day one. 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,640 I never watched that. I kind of joined the hype train 52 00:02:54,640 --> 00:03:01,360 because Dune 2 is coming out soon and you all know I love 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,200 Dune 2. Dune 2 is a plug in. 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,960 I'm a geek anyway, so yeah, watch that. 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,640 And Dean, one knows what? That is. 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,320 Well, they do because they've heard it multiple times. 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,520 It's the famous plug in that was used to make the song Black 58 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,040 Beatles by Ray Shermard. They used the Dune to plug in 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,840 anyway, so let's not be too geeky. 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,240 What else did I do? So yeah, there's that. 61 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:33,200 They had a lot of, you know, official things government 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,080 related. You know how? 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,720 Yeah. Yeah. 64 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Like, just had to know how it is. 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's always fun. 66 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Yeah, so not fun. It's just a lot of standing 67 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,040 around and queuing. I hate it. 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Making friends. OK, so that and then made a 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,960 bunch of music. Also released some music. 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Released a song with Cookie and Groovy Joe on Friday Gabbana. 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,960 You all should stream that on all the streaming platforms. 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,320 Really excited. Really excited. 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,400 It's some trap stuff. Fire on just like the the Jason 74 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,880 effects. Yeah, no. 75 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Have you heard? Those the Jason I left I left I. 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,240 Left I left. To do that, I had to let that. 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,240 Do that I had to. Let that breathe. 78 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,880 You didn't have to let it breathe. 79 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Yes, I know that it's fire Baby tag. 80 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,520 What else did I do that was of interest? 81 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Yeah, I released some music, so super excited about that. 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Also, there's two more songs that are coming out this week or 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,480 this coming. Yeah, this week on. 84 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Friday is working working. Well, three more songs. 85 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,560 You're my role. Technical. 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,280 OK, All right. OK, Four. 87 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:41,920 Do you want to go? Let's do you want to try for 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,040 four? If I do have personal release, 89 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,000 then we could say 4. Aside from that, yeah man, we're 90 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,960 just working. Yeah, that's that's kind of how 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,360 my week went. How about yours? 92 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,720 That's dope. It's fire. 93 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,720 Yeah, it's, it's been, it's this week has been difficult, man. 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,960 So I've not had my machine. They're still trying to figure 95 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,560 out what's wrong with it. My machine in my laptop, 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Nigeria. Nigeria is called Laptop's 97 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Machine. I'm so sorry. 98 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,280 Maybe that's a Nigerian in me coming out. 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 I've not had my laptop this week, so I've been waking up 100 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,280 every day with a burden to create but nothing to create on. 101 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,560 I've just been recording voice notes and doing other things. 102 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,480 But yeah, I've been productive though, bro. 103 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,000 It's been hot. Can we talk about the Sun? 104 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,560 Very hot man. Yeah, the sun has been doing. 105 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,920 I don't know what it's up to, but it's been ridiculous. 106 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,760 It's that kind of kind of weather where you sleep without 107 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,200 a blanket, one leg out, just trying to regulate your own body 108 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,360 heat. It's craziness, but anyway. 109 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,560 Oh wait, Sam, what did you do for Valentine's Day? 110 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,840 Oh, that. Was that was this week? 111 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,120 I did. I don't know. 112 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,520 What day was Valentine's. Was it Wednesday? 113 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Valentine's always seems like it's on Wednesday. 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,440 It was Wednesday. Valentine's is always on 115 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,120 Wednesday. Wednesday is a day of love 116 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,240 officially declared by me. Is the day of love. 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,920 I didn't. Do Hump day. 118 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,320 What? Wednesday is Hump Day, and it's 119 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,840 also Valentine's Day, which is which is appropriate anyway. 120 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:07,760 Sorry. Yeah. 121 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,160 Very inappropriate. Yeah. 122 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,080 No, I didn't. I didn't. 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,120 I didn't have no Valentine's. I've not done Valentine's in a 124 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,240 long time, bro. I don't know. 125 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,480 What did you do? I'm. 126 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,600 I'm curious. What did you do? 127 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Did you did you? Don't worry about it, man. 128 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,120 No, I'm glad you had a good week. 129 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Oh my God. Moving on swiftly. 130 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,280 So I had a no, no, wait, I had a good Valentine's. 131 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,400 Yeah. Like it? 132 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:44,120 Was how Valentine's is meant to be spent. 133 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:46,000 Let's just say, though, So yeah, really. 134 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,200 OK, yeah. With loved. 135 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,280 With loved ones. Yes. 136 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:49,600 Yeah. Yeah. 137 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,560 Yeah, OK. I'm moving on swiftly. 138 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,280 Like, yeah uh huh. Yeah, but no. 139 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:57,240 I didn't know Valentine's. I'm of the belief that 140 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,920 Valentine's is a is a is a way is a just another holiday that 141 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,800 they made so that we can buy more things and. 142 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,360 You're one of those people. All holidays are meant for us to 143 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,240 buy more things. We look at Christmas, you look 144 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,040 at Easter. It's just all for you. 145 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Targeted for us to buy things. Some for me personally, I 146 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,200 willingly fall into the trap. It's fine. 147 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,160 Like you want me to buy more. You want me to, You want me to? 148 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Yeah. Take my money. 149 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,320 Take my money. Yeah, it's fine. 150 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,400 What am I going to do, bro? Be grumpy in the house and be 151 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,200 like, you know what I know? I see through you. 152 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,360 I see through your tricks. That was me on Wednesday. 153 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,400 That was me. I even completely forgot. 154 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,080 You just reminded me that Wednesday was Valentine's. 155 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,640 Like, I completely forgot. It's it's crazy. 156 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,600 It's crazy. That says a lot about me. 157 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,880 All righty. Yeah, man, what? 158 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,600 What? What was going on this week? 159 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,000 What What was going on this week? 160 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,560 This was a little bit of a slow Newsweek too. 161 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Quite slow, quite slow. But I mean, you take it away, 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Sam. Yeah. 163 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:00,000 So let's see. So the I ran across the news. 164 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,040 First of all, we had no idea, all right? 165 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,840 We had absolutely no idea that that this was happening. 166 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,840 It's just it was news to us. But then I ran across a tweet 167 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,640 that was talking about. Before we go into the oh, OK, 168 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,920 OK, I was going to say before we. 169 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Go. Yeah. 170 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,200 No Sir, that's how I got to know about some. 171 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,760 I'm just starting to say that's how I got to know about the 172 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,640 festival. So I ran a question which and 173 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,280 then just talking about the Raha Fest and apparently Davido set 174 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,000 to perform I was like. Enjoyment. 175 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:35,440 Not, I've not heard anything, anything whatsoever about a Raha 176 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,919 Fest, either in years previous or years to come. 177 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:40,480 That doesn't make any sense. Years. 178 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,000 In four years I haven't heard anything about. 179 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:47,600 So that was interesting. Wait, wait, what's cutting 180 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,360 across all all time and stuff. Omnipotent. 181 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Omnipresent. Your omnish. 182 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Your ever what? Never mind. 183 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Sorry. Go ahead, effervescent. 184 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,680 OK, we'll go with that. It's. 185 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,920 Definitely not effervescent. Yeah. 186 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,160 So that was interesting. It was interesting going and 187 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,000 learning. Apparently. 188 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,760 It looks like it's a. It's a It's first. 189 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,200 OK, first of all Raha Fest if you can't tell by. 190 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,200 The What is Sam? For the people listening to to 191 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,720 this, what is? Another festival. 192 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,560 Uh huh. Raha Fest is another festival, 193 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:23,400 right? So it's what is a what is a 194 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,960 festival actually? Is it just an event where it's 195 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,920 like a glorified concert, isn't it? 196 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,120 No, it's it's a it's a concert that's bigger, You know what I 197 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,600 mean? Yeah. 198 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:43,200 A festival definition festival is a day or period set aside for 199 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,680 celebration or feasting. It can also refer to an occasion 200 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:50,280 for celebration, such such as one that commemorates an 201 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,600 anniversary of any other significant event. 202 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,920 OK, I hope I have. Definition change from the 203 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,080 dictionary, apart from the 30% podcast. 204 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,600 So the Raha Fest, They're calling it Africa's largest 205 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,960 music, Africa's largest music, arts and cultural extravaganza. 206 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,960 They all are. Every single one of them, right. 207 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,320 Every single one is the largest. So, so it's it's taking place on 208 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,320 the 30th of March 2024 is that that's Easter weekend, right? 209 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,960 That's pretty soon. That's really just like a month, 210 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,400 and 10 days from now, it's. Really. 211 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,000 A month? Yeah. 212 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,120 So. And I saw the news about this 213 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,000 going out, I want to say a couple of days ago. 214 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Not so. Not so long ago, Like 3-4 days 215 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,520 ago. So that's seems like short 216 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,280 notice, especially since it looks like it's a new thing. 217 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,040 We haven't. I've have. 218 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Have you? Never like I just went on their 219 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Instagram and it looks like they they started posting on the 13th 220 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,120 of January. So it looks like Raha Fest is 221 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,680 very much like this year type of thing. 222 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Yeah. So it's it's new. 223 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,440 It's new. It's new. 224 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,640 It's really new, so cool. So headliner is Davido David 225 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Adeleke, the Nigerian superstar. He's he's been around for a 226 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,120 while. We all love Davido, but most of 227 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,680 us love Davido. And then so Co headlining there 228 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:19,440 will be JPJBJPJB Piana from Congo. 229 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,360 We have Musa Keys from South Africa, King Promise from Ghana, 230 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,520 Otili Brown, Major View, The Storyteller, Samido San IP, 231 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,880 Nadia Mukami, Heart of the Band Bensol and Femi One from Kenya. 232 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,320 DJ is King and more DJs to be announced. 233 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,920 So it looks. It looks interesting. 234 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,080 It looks interesting. Yeah. 235 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,120 Did you say Frasha? Frasha will also be. 236 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Very. Frasha Mimkhari, is that. 237 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,960 That's the frash I'm talking about, right. 238 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Is there another one? OK, Yeah. 239 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,200 So there's no other Frasher shout out. 240 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,920 Frasher. Yeah. 241 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,680 So I mean tickets out now if you want to, if you feel like that's 242 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:58,360 the thing that you want to attend, that's cool. 243 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,640 It's really interesting. It's really interesting going 244 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:05,840 through the the, the, the, what's his name, what do you 245 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,240 call these guys? I've got it the term not the 246 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,240 founder, the the promoter. It's not the word I'm looking 247 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,120 for the promoter. The promoter is is what? 248 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,320 What was his name? Tunde, Daniel. 249 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Tunde Daniel That's the Nigerian things to to to put well, it's a 250 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,120 world thing to put your son name before your first name. 251 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,160 I think his name is Daniel. Ari, Sam, But Sam, Dan, Ari, 252 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,920 Sam. Your name is, it's. 253 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,880 A maza in it. Yeah, So anyway, so he's the 254 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,200 promoter. It was good. 255 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,920 Doing some research about him, he seems like it's a he's. 256 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,720 Interesting. Very tough to him. 257 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,680 It's a big deal. Yeah, So what do you think about 258 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:45,760 this, bro? That's, like, never. 259 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:51,720 Seriously. Text to Don jazzy it does. 260 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,160 It does look like I mean that. The the you to go get. 261 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Get on your ancestry.com. Go get get your DNA. 262 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,800 I hope that's not a disrespectful thing to say. 263 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,480 Shout out to you though. Shout out to you, yeah. 264 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,280 What do you think about the the festival? 265 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Festival looks interesting. I mean the line up looks 266 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,280 interesting, looks very ambitious, looks like it's going 267 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,320 to be something for the ages, man. 268 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Like the pricing though is pretty up there. 269 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:23,400 I mean like 6000 for a regular ticket, 12,000 for VIP, 30,000 270 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,280 for VIP, right? Looks like it's going to be one 271 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:33,600 of those. So, you know, what do we expect? 272 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,720 I mean, we've had events like these be cancelled on Kenyans 273 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,960 like. Yeah, we've not. 274 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:39,840 We've not. Yeah. 275 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,560 There's not been a really good, a good. 276 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Sorry to cut you off. There's not been a really good 277 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,080 showing for events. No. 278 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,160 So hopefully this one goes on with a hit without a hit. 279 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,760 Hopefully it does. Because like the only it looks 280 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,280 like the only reliable events so far in the event space are the 281 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,240 ones organized by Gondwana. But even them, they had their 282 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,760 main event, the headliners like pull out last was it last week 283 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,600 and that was a whole thing. But anyway, I mean, so hopefully 284 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,880 this one. Also, do you think many Kenyans 285 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,640 are going to be willing to pay like early bad tickets after 286 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,800 being banned by the likes of Shocker Shocker. 287 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Which, by the way, do you think people got paid back for that? 288 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,840 Got paid their money. Yeah. 289 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,120 We didn't go to the bottom of that. 290 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,600 I need. I need to we need to do some 291 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,040 some research and like actually talk to people on the streets 292 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,760 and find out like what the truth is if they got their money back. 293 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:33,840 I don't know. I hope so. 294 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,320 I genuinely hope so. Like because that's that's if 295 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,760 you don't then how do you go about it? 296 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,080 I guess if you don't get your money you could like band 297 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,320 together and try and make some noise about it, but you've not 298 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,240 had any noise so. But some some introduce us to 299 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,360 like, So what was the tweet saying? 300 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,840 What was the tweet saying? Wait, be so yeah. 301 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,360 Oh, before we get there. Uh huh. 302 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,040 Yeah. Before we get to the no, I just 303 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:03,720 wanted to mention so I also saw sorry I also saw Shanzi, the 304 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Jamaican artist was was set to come to Kenya later on this I 305 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,360 think it was August but she. You mean Shanzia? 306 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,960 I'm sorry. I'm sorry to expose you. 307 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,760 No, I it's not. It's because. 308 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,600 So let me tell you why. Because you said Shanzi and I 309 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,200 was like, who the hell is that? Like I was like, yeah, I'm. 310 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,720 So sorry, No. Yeah, I'm. 311 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,600 So. Sorry. 312 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,920 Oh God. Oh no. 313 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,440 Oh no. This is bad. 314 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,000 This is bad. No, this is real bad. 315 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,240 So yeah, so she was said, but she cancelled for apparently 316 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,720 security reasons. That was there. 317 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,400 The watch, what they're talking about. 318 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,520 Which is it's really strange. But anyway, so it's just a 319 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,320 really by the way, I was So what brought me to the shocking, 320 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:56,440 shocking news? Not, not the the, the Rafa's 321 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,120 news was I saw a tweet. I saw a tweet. 322 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Let me let me pull it up because we're doing journalism here. 323 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,080 We're doing good, good journalistic work. 324 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Top tier journalists here. Top tier. 325 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,040 Here we go. Best of the best. 326 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:13,480 So yeah, the the tweet is by he goes by St. lawyer on on X. 327 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Shout out to him. And the tweet goes, yeah, the 328 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,440 tweet goes, so we'll just, I'll just, I'll read to the tweet 329 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,720 then we can talk about it. So it says paying Davido 330 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,680 56,000,000 is absurdity Now 56,000,000 will come roughly to 331 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,160 around 3-2 hundred $350,000 around that. 332 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,560 So paying. David, no, it's about 388,000 333 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,120 actually. Oh yeah, the shooting's been 334 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,720 doing a weird thing now so it's it's probably it's it's. 335 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,600 I don't know. Anyway, yeah, so he goes on to 336 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:46,520 say that Guap can be used to lock in 56 Kenyan musicians 337 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,960 across genres, lock in a proper three or four day festival open 338 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,520 to other EA countries to pull up, like Saudis, Abu Sarah or 339 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,200 Enyagan Yaga festivals. The Employment Opportunity that 340 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:06,640 will be created is in sane, he goes on to say, and to 341 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,560 hypothesize right. I keep saying that word wrong. 342 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,400 It's not hypothesize. Hypothesize. 343 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Hypothesize each artist with a mili that's 1,000,000. 344 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,160 That's that's slang for one million to their names. 345 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,000 Imagine how many people will get paid. 346 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,000 The manager, The makeup artist, Stylist, DJ, life band, dancers, 347 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,320 choreographers, producer. Locking in the next project, 348 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,880 Videographer and photographer After Me and You in the Producer 349 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,880 category and maybe the Dancer category. 350 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Let me tell you something, The money that's in events is never 351 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,480 trickling down to the producers. Let's let's just be honest. 352 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,280 No, because he keeps going. No, he keeps going. 353 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,280 He keeps going. The chauffeur. 354 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,760 Is never trickling down to us, man. 355 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,400 I just handlers and stage managers but he says and this is 356 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,720 the this is the crux of his argument but we choose to do 357 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:06,240 some kawaida mediocre bookings and on here we have an angry red 358 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,680 faced emoji alpha. Take it away. 359 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,560 I mean so. OK, can we get your thoughts on 360 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,120 this please? OK, here are my thoughts. 361 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,760 So essentially the argument is we should be offering this 362 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:26,120 opportunity for this new big platform, this new big festival. 363 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,360 It should be catered towards Kenyan artists. 364 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:32,320 It's, you know, it's it's the whole argument that you know 365 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,240 why. Play KE first. 366 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Yeah, yeah, play KE, right. So 70 I I mean so having few 367 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,640 let's pay 56 artists 1,000,000 Kenya shillings each to come on 368 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,000 stage which I mean, OK I I see what he's trying to say but I 369 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,600 see what he's trying to say. But obviously if BN was in the 370 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,240 was in the line up, he's not going to accept to be paid the 371 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,760 same as artist X who's you know. Maybe he was not talking about 372 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,440 the top tier artist. Maybe he's talking about like 373 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,840 upcoming artists, because they'll be happy. 374 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,960 Maybe he was. But now this is where the 375 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,360 argument kind of falls apart, I think. 376 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,120 And we have to be realistic about this. 377 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Are Kenyans going to pay? I I I mean, are they going to 378 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:21,360 pay for the tickets or are they going to attend a show such as 379 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:28,800 this that's built off of just upcoming artists, Right, I 380 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,480 think. Wait, sorry, I'm sorry, sorry, 381 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,760 do you. I'm more likely, just just to 382 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,240 clarify, sorry, do you mean I Kenya is going to pay for like a 383 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,360 headliner like David Doe or pay for would they rather pay for 384 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:42,040 headliner like David Doe would they rather pay for? 385 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,200 Well, I was. I was. 386 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,600 I was getting. Upcoming artists. 387 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,640 I was getting there, so, so, so, yeah, I mean that's the 388 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,960 question. And I I was like I was saying, I 389 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,000 think we just have to be a bit realistic here and it's 390 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,760 unfortunate to say, but I think more Kenyans are going to pay 391 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,800 for the bigger international acts. 392 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,280 I think, I think they're going to rather pay for if a Davido is 393 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:09,000 coming, a Banner Boy, a Rama or like one of the foreign acts 394 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,640 like When 2 Chain came or Shancia or Shanci, that's her 395 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,200 name now. So you know what I mean. 396 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Like I think cousins are more likely to pay that. 397 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:24,760 So if you're if you're an event organizer like how are you going 398 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:30,440 to invest that 56,000,000 which by the way is alleged like 399 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,560 that's there's. No, there's no need to put this. 400 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,600 Yeah, the disclaimer on there, these are not, these are not 401 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:37,920 confirmed numbers. Please don't. 402 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,520 Go actually those team no please no, no. 403 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Yeah this is just like this is just for the sake of 404 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,040 conversation right? And just using this persons 405 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,200 tweet. So, so maybe then the question 406 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,120 is like why? Why why? 407 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:56,400 Why wouldn't Kenyans be willing to attend a 56? 408 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,880 First of all the logistics behind having 56 artists in a 2? 409 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,120 Day event I don't know. Are we organized enough? 410 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,360 Are we organized enough? Are we organized enough for 411 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,600 that? It's possible, but you'd have to 412 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,760 have. I would hope we were. 413 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,800 Stages. You'd have to have multiple 414 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,760 stages and have just like a big space and stuff like that, like 415 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,000 how they doing like beneath the bow barbs. 416 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,440 But like that's the that's the issue like are Kenyan are are 417 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,480 Kenyans willing to just see a primary leaf like will they will 418 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,120 they drop like that like And then because we before this, we 419 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:33,800 were looking at the, you know, we were looking at the revenue 420 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,560 streams for for events and stuff like that. 421 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,360 Because I'm not going to lie. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. 422 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:43,560 I'm not too like cluding. So I had to do some research and 423 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,600 you know, they make money through sponsorships, through 424 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,360 advertisements, of course through ticket sales. 425 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:55,760 That's the obvious one. Through, you know, the vendors 426 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,120 who the various vendors who sell, whether it's food, whether 427 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:01,760 it's merchandise. Whether it's. 428 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,880 Whatever. Like they have to pay for space 429 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,680 in the event. Like now if you, if you put all 430 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,360 that together like even just for the advertisers, like they're 431 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:15,400 more advertisers unfortunately are going to look at the ticket 432 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,080 and they're going to see a big name like Barna Boy and and 433 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,160 Davido and see more value in that lining themselves. 434 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,800 Exactly. Yeah. 435 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,760 And this is very unfortunate me. I'm not saying this as. 436 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,440 But it's the nature of the industry though. 437 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,520 Yeah, no, we don't try to, we don't try to put people put 438 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,760 anyone down. But it's the nature of the 439 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,160 industry. It's the levels those guys have 440 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,120 the business. Yeah. 441 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,000 It's at the end of the day business. 442 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,640 It really is. And and so maybe maybe we need 443 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,600 to get because really when it comes to this scale of events, 444 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,280 it's only two people who can really pull that off and that's 445 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,120 either Saudi Soul Bien or his own or Nyashinsky, everybody 446 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,040 else. Like, Even so, I don't know. 447 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:54,880 They're more in there. I don't know if has can 448 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,160 kaligraph. Does he usually have like his 449 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,440 stand alone events that are really big? 450 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,080 Because what's Saudi soul have the whole soul fest thing 451 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Nyashinsky has What does it? What does he call his Shin City? 452 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Yeah, Shin City, right. And that that that's big on its 453 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,400 own. Is there any other artist who 454 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,640 can have like a big level event like like that by themselves? 455 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,240 I don't know if they can pull those numbers. 456 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,360 These are the biggest people for sure. 457 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,640 Maybe. That's what I'm saying. 458 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,000 Maybe if you have like some of the legacy acts maybe like like 459 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,440 AP unit coming together or I, but I don't know I I feel like 460 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,160 currently. But a a multitude of Kenyans 461 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,280 going to really come out to CP unit. 462 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,000 I'm. Not, that's the thing we don't. 463 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,840 Know but I'm just saying like I doubt it like they have to have 464 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,960 more meat to that like P unit. It would be dope if P unit now 465 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,600 come as a as a you know like what do you call them? 466 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:55,560 No, not a Co headliner, but like if they're part. 467 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,160 Of the ticket. Of like a Nyashevsky show or 468 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,720 something. Because you know, like, so. 469 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,880 So listen. The truth is, as much as I'd 470 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,320 like there to be an event that's just 100% Kenyan, which is 471 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,680 possible, but if we're talking about the scale of which Raha 472 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,440 Festival is trying to achieve, it can't be just primarily 473 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,640 Kenyan. You have to have that big 474 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,280 international name, which is unfortunate. 475 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,880 And I'm not saying you know what I mean, like, but like, that's 476 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,880 just how it is. Yeah, especially I mean if if if 477 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,560 you're, if you're if you're investing that much like again 478 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,480 it's alleged, but if you're investing that much into the 479 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:38,240 artist himself in this region, of course then that means that 480 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,600 you might have a lot more. I don't know if if they're 481 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,440 thinking that having 56 of this other guys. 482 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,360 Well and again this is just a guy's thoughts OK this is not 483 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,600 this is not real. But then I don't know if they're 484 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,080 if they think having 56 artists could bring back that revenue. 485 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,320 I feel like there might be a way that they can make that work but 486 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,000 it probably won't be very easy that is. 487 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,080 So it's just really easy. It's just easy calling a David O 488 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,800 and being like fam. Come get your because. 489 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,560 Unfortunately, like if even like if if the ticket is just 490 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,200 primarily like the smaller Kenyan axe making the the the 491 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,960 early bad ticket 6000 people would be like for what? 492 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,520 That's that's unfortunate, but it's David Doe, though. 493 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,120 It's David Doe. David Doe, I think has has 494 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,360 reached that level. But that's what I'm saying. 495 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,000 You see, Kenyans would say it's David Doe though, so we should 496 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,080 pay 6000. But, but if if there was no big 497 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:34,080 like name aside from just like, you know, primarily Kenya names, 498 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,160 people would just be like, yeah, no, I'm not paying 6000. 499 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,240 Not, yeah. I'm not paying 6000 to go see. 500 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,200 Yeah, we've seen, we've seen the people they've complained about. 501 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,720 I mean the amounts of of of money they've had to pay for 502 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560 like local accent and yeah, I don't know if they'll. 503 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,520 Be so maybe. Then I guess a constructive, A 504 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,040 constructive conversation to have would be how do we get 505 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,240 ourselves to the point where we can have massive events? 506 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,520 And then now let's remove Sauti solan Yashinsky from the 507 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,240 equation. OK, just for the sake of 508 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,200 conversation. Right. 509 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,880 How do we get our ourselves to to the scale of like being able 510 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,840 to have like a primarily Kenyan LED like event but that's like 511 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,680 at that scale of you know what Raha first is trying to achieve 512 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,920 ETCETC where like people are even willing to pay like. 513 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,480 Just ridiculously obscene amount of money, yeah? 514 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,280 Yeah, yeah. Obscene amounts, yeah. 515 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:38,320 Obscene because we're brokeies. It's definitely obscene because 516 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,280 we're brokeies. So here's what I think, Number 517 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,200 one, I think we need more superstars from here. 518 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,280 We need more people who we can. We need more people who who who 519 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,840 appeal to, who appeal to the to audiences on that level. 520 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,480 Like like, I feel like we do have stars and I'm not saying we 521 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,120 don't have stars, right. And I know this is please don't 522 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,040 kill me that that's not what I'm saying. 523 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,960 I'm not saying we don't have stars, but I think we need more 524 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,360 people who want we can we could export out. 525 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,000 Like, we just need a bigger. I don't, I'm trying to put it 526 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,080 into words, but it's not coming out. 527 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,040 Do you understand what I'm trying to say? 528 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,440 Basically what I'm saying is we need we need more stars. 529 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,000 We need more, more people who are able to draw in crowds of 530 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240 that level. We have artists here, but like 531 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,640 we're talking, we're just, we don't know if they'll be able to 532 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,200 pull. Yeah, we don't know if they were 533 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,600 able to pull those numbers, right. 534 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,280 The numbers required. At the end of the day, it's 535 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,120 business. And if the promoters don't see 536 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,960 those numbers coming back, they're not going to make their 537 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,240 money back. We're not just giving out free. 538 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,040 This is these are not World Relief benefit concerts we're 539 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,880 holding, this is, this is actual things going on. 540 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,920 So that's number one. Of course we need more. 541 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,480 I feel like we would need more organization in the sense that 542 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,480 there has to be like a real concerted effort to to emphasize 543 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,880 the benefits of concerts rather than just throwing a show and 544 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,280 saying for this weekend this and this is like there needs to be 545 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,520 like a a greater emphasis on that, maybe probably more 546 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,960 sponsors, more, more, more corporations. 547 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,600 What do you call it? Paying into the art, more 548 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,320 corporations supporting artists and all their business. 549 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,280 But honestly, if you just ask me, I think the bottom line is 550 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,880 we just we just need more, more artists that are, yeah that are 551 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,840 on that level. That would that would do it. 552 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,440 That would do. That would do it. 553 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,040 Yeah, and that's it's, it's unfortunate to say by Yeah man, 554 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:37,120 because Kenyans, Kenyans are not going to spend that much money 555 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:41,440 on unless it's like you're hearing, you know, banner boys. 556 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,160 Come. Unless you know it's it's it's 557 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,120 an experience you can't get elsewhere. 558 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,800 You know, like like Davido doesn't just show up frequently. 559 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,080 I don't remember the last time he was here. 560 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,440 But then that's like an experience when when when it 561 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,680 comes. And it's an experience just 562 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,680 because of. Who he's become? 563 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Do you think so? Do you think, like in Nigeria 564 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,160 for example, do you think they get hyped for Banner Boy Rema 565 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,640 concerts or like video concerts? Yeah. 566 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,840 And they treat, they treat them just like, yeah, like, you know 567 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,120 how like when these guys come here, there's some reason all 568 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,960 this Nigerian guys come here and then they goof up and guys go 569 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,680 and attack them on Twitter. It's the same thing in Nigeria. 570 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,560 People, people do shop, People shop. 571 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,480 The thing about is it? Is it? 572 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Because is it because these guys never stay in Nigeria, Kinarema, 573 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,160 they're always like abroad like I feel like in a Rama, they 574 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,520 their base of operations is always like in the US or 575 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,800 whatever, like so maybe even for Nigerians like having a Rama 576 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,160 come and perform is novel because. 577 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,960 Like it's like a rare is never there. 578 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,760 That could partly be it. And again we'd I, I think we do 579 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,760 this thing where we compare Nigeria and Kenya too much I 580 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,000 guess, because we're two Nigerians. 581 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,360 Of course it's very easy to do that. 582 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,360 But then I think Nigerians, it's it's it's known to Nigerians and 583 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,200 to people outside of Nigeria that Nigerians just support 584 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,480 their own man like they. I remember I was in, I was in 585 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Nigeria a while back and I was listening to radio and on the 586 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,680 radio stations they were playing mostly Nigerian music, if not 587 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,800 all Nigerian music. I didn't hear like a single 588 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,520 Drake song. I think I had one Nicki Minaj 589 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,920 song, which was really weird. But they play Nigerian, so they 590 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,280 support their own. So back there, people want to 591 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,080 see their people flourish. They want to see their people 592 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,080 thrive And so we still listen if you throw a bat shoe, it's still 593 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,520 going to kill, kill you on Twitter like we're still, we're 594 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,440 still going to complain about it, but we're out there in hoods 595 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,400 supporting our own and I think that's that's something. 596 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,440 And of course now the industry Barclay is really big. 597 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,760 So they can sort of afford that kind of thing here in Kenya. 598 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,720 The industry is, is, is, I mean it's good, it's, it's thriving 599 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,040 and I do believe it's thriving but then it's not at that scale. 600 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,120 So maybe that might affect affect things. 601 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,440 So I mean, you've essentially just gone full circle into the 602 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,960 whole, even the inception of our podcast. 603 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,480 So I guess it's just like, we have to like, what's the word? 604 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,880 We have to not inculcate like we have to. 605 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,200 What was that inculcate. Yeah. 606 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,760 What's the word like? What does that mean? 607 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,400 Infiltrate the minds of the youth like with Kenyan. 608 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,040 Brainwashed We have to brainwash the Kenyan Brainwash. 609 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,400 They're brainwashing the Kenyan youth. 610 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Yeah. No, we have to make. 611 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,200 Creators to brainwash the Kenyan. 612 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,280 No, essentially we have to like, expose them to just Kenyan art. 613 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,440 Kenyan art. It's it's dope. 614 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,400 Like we have to like from an early age, show them that Kenyan 615 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,080 stuff is really fire and something to be excited. 616 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,440 Promoted from my. Young from my young age, so that 617 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,040 they get excited like because you see now as our generation, 618 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,440 we're like, you know, like most of these our celebs, you know, 619 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,400 we've come up with them like, you know, but like we need like 620 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,000 for my are you? Trying to say we can't teach old 621 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,040 dogs new tricks, Is that what you're trying to? 622 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,280 Say, are you? No, you can't, old dogs. 623 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,000 Are you calling our artists old dogs? 624 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,200 No, I'm calling us old dogs. I'm saying like. 625 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,760 Well, call yourself an old dog. Fine. 626 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,760 I'm calling myself an old dog. I'm just saying like because my 627 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,280 generation is out. My generation is like we're 628 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,680 we're played out like even the generation, even the generation 629 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,680 directly be. No, we're old for sure. 630 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,520 You know, it's not about being old. 631 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,080 I'm saying even the generation be below ours is also like like. 632 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,200 That's what I mean. OK, that's what. 633 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,640 I mean the kids who are between 23 and 20 and 23 and 30, like 634 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,200 even then. We're not the deciders of the 635 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,680 culture anymore. Yeah. 636 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,280 I'm saying we're not the deciders of of culture anymore, 637 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,120 like. No, we are. 638 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,640 You're not getting my point. Yeah, bro. 639 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,480 Yes we are. No, if anything, no, if anything 640 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,280 if anything right now we're the we're the the pilot seat seat of 641 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,560 what should be deciding culture I think because we we're at that 642 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,400 we're in that teetering edge between. 643 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,200 I think so. I think it's. 644 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,760 The kids, We are. No, because we are the kids. 645 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,480 No, because we are that teetering point of where we're 646 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,680 in between both worlds, where we can straddle being young and 647 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,560 still being and still having like connection with the younger 648 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,560 generation, but also being at the age where we can also be in 649 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,200 rooms with the adults and like actually make like policy and 650 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,600 and like affect things more. Because like most of the people 651 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,440 our age are now getting into like positions of power in the 652 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,640 music industry. You know, you look at, you look 653 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,240 at all the people who like, have big positions right now. 654 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,000 It's not people who are like too dissimilar like to our age. 655 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,200 You get what I mean. So right now we're at the pilot 656 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,440 seat when you're young. When you're young, what you can 657 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,960 do When you're young, what you can do is you can curate the 658 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360 vibe, but you can't really change so much. 659 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,920 You can you can but like it's it's it's more difficult to do 660 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,560 that. So you need people who are like 661 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,360 actually in the in the room. Who have some sort of, yeah, 662 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,280 some sort of like a social pool, some sort of a power. 663 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,240 I guess it's all power. Like that's what that's what all 664 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,280 the people have power. Yeah. 665 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,480 But we like we're in smack dab in the middle for now because we 666 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,040 still anyway so. But that wasn't even my even Now 667 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,600 even I've lost like my train of thought. 668 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,679 But but. I get what you're saying. 669 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,280 I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. 670 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,320 That's that's, that's, I mean it's interesting. 671 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,760 We well, OK, I think we're talking about, we're talking 672 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,239 about the, the, the, the original point was what we're 673 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,800 trying to do with the podcast. But yeah, it's trying to, trying 674 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040 to. It's just make make Kenyan, I 675 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,679 guess, make Kenyan music important to Kenyan people or be 676 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,199 part of that story, I think is. Yes. 677 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,840 Oh yeah. Essentially what I was saying 678 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,719 was we have to have the younger generation like now from 17 and 679 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,280 below actually believe that Kenyan music is as sick as 680 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,480 Nigerian music, as sick as South African music, as sick as 681 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:59,200 Ghanaian music, as sick as like European music and Western music 682 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,480 in general. So that those kids can be like. 683 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,360 So that when they get to the position where they can actually 684 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:11,200 afford to pay 6000, like they can make a decision to pay for a 685 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,400 primarily Kenyan LED event, you know what I mean? 686 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:20,160 Because right now those kids can't really, they're they're 687 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,840 not at the position where they can spend. 688 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,080 But my point is we need to have them grow up into being those 689 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,040 people who, yeah, you know, I love Kenyan art so much, I'm 690 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,200 going to spend 6012 thousand, 30,000 to go to a just a Kenyan 691 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,640 event, you know what I mean? But as we are lost causes, our 692 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,080 generation is lost. Is is a lost cause for that. 693 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,520 And the generation below us is also a lost cause for that. 694 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,560 But the kids we we can still like we can still there's still 695 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,240 hope there. Anyway, we say all this. 696 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:57,520 Still hope for the kids, yeah. Yeah, we just say all this to 697 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,440 say for the time being, if you're trying to have like a 698 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,720 festival type of things, it's still going to have to be backed 699 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,960 by like an international act that's big and that's just how 700 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,760 it's going to have to be for. And like, I mean, it'll be cool 701 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160 to, it'll be cool for us to be proved wrong too, right? 702 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,840 Like it'd be really cool for us to be proved wrong. 703 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,080 Like for maybe a promoter to just to just. 704 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080 No, no, but it can do. No, it can be. 705 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,160 It can be done. But I'm just saying it's it's 706 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,200 all about skill. Yes, you can have a, a, a an 707 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,240 event that's just Kenyan with with Hella Kenyans. 708 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,960 But like is it going to be at the size of what we're talking 709 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,920 about if it doesn't involve Saudi Soul and Nyashinsky? 710 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,560 Because that's my thing. Because you know, most people 711 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560 will go out for. And anyone else in that bracket, 712 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,080 yeah. Not even anyone else that I'm 713 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,960 just talking about. Those you're just you're just 714 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,120 saying those those two specifically, OK. 715 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,440 Yeah. Anyway, I don't know. 716 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,800 That was an interesting. Talk, man, Shout out though, 717 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,240 shout out to them. I mean, I mean, I hope. 718 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,320 I hope it works, first of all. I mean, just with the recent, 719 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,400 what do you call it, the recent track record of festivals, I 720 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,560 really hope that one works out, that the artist that it actually 721 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,120 plays out, it'll be really cool to see. 722 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,960 Yeah man. Davido said he's excited to come 723 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,560 to Kenya again. So yeah, excited to see the PR 724 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,360 team said that. Anyway, yeah, what? 725 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,000 Else. What else was What else was 726 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,440 going on? Nothing much, really. 727 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,920 The only thing I saw was that the oh oh oh, Do you want to 728 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,200 talk about Zinnia being on Tiny Desk? 729 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,680 I don't have. As much to talk about just 730 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,160 congratulations Fam that's that's a big look that's. 731 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,560 A That's a big look and it sets up. 732 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,480 Sorry, go ahead on there with. No, I was just asking. 733 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,480 Who is she on there with? I'm looking for his name right 734 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,960 now because he has a he's a guy I'm not too familiar with, but 735 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,680 he's called, he's called Behana Behana. 736 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,440 I'm not really too familiar with him. 737 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:05,320 He is an Ethiopian ATL based singer and Xenia was one of the 738 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,840 backup singers or the background singers for him on Tiny Desk, 739 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,720 which is really dope and it sets up, it sets up, it sets up a 740 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,360 good storyline because now when Zinnia actually gets a Tiny Desk 741 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,000 of her own, she'll be like, oh, I remember the time I was a you 742 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680 know what I mean? And everybody loves those 743 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,200 stories. Like you'll see how you'll see 744 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,400 how all the blogs will be like oh, artist who was once a 745 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,600 background singer on Tiny Desk now has. 746 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,960 Their own gets her own show. And then that's going to be like 747 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,800 the headline and everyone is going to be like. 748 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,200 This is really cool, man. Like, I I really like. 749 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,000 I like that these things are opening up for for for like 750 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,320 Kenyan artists and Kenyan artists who identify as Kenyan 751 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,200 artists. Like it's so dope and and I 752 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,840 think it's open to everyone. Like it's the hard work, it's 753 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,120 the proper moves man. Shout out to to to her manager 754 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,840 and and the people who are able to get her this. 755 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,520 Shout out to Faye, man. Faye. 756 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,480 Faye is making a fave man. Also, they were the Grammys, by 757 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,080 the way. We never mentioned, but they 758 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,520 were the Grammys. Oh, OK. 759 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,960 Did you know this? That's nice. 760 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,080 No, I had no idea. Oh yeah, they were the Grammys. 761 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,360 So shout out to them bro. They're out there. 762 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,720 They're outside making moves and doing. 763 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,200 Yeah, making moves, moving and shaking. 764 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,240 Making moves, I guess. I guess that raises another 765 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,520 conversation. We can have a Commission of 766 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,080 another day Where like are we? Are we at a place where we are 767 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,720 forced to to go out there to make like these big moves or can 768 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:32,680 we succeed within or 4 walls or I don't? 769 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,440 Think no, you can't. You have to. 770 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,160 No, no. You have to integrate yourself 771 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,120 with the with the Western music market. 772 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,960 Listen, what I've said might sound crazy to you, but look, 773 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,640 you look at all the all the big artists now you look at Tyler, 774 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,480 you look at Rama, you look at Banner Boy. 775 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,680 All of those guys have deals with the major labels from the 776 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,000 West. Listen, if you wanna scale. 777 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,080 Name of that game. Yeah, if you wanna scale to that 778 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,960 level, you have to partner with them. 779 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,600 If you wanna just be a local hero, like, you can also do 780 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,760 that. But like, nobody's gonna know 781 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,880 you like outside unless you figure out a way to also, you 782 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,320 know, get some market share in those other spaces. 783 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,240 It's just. It's just how it is. 784 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,400 Yo, other news, this is big exciting new sound. 785 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,360 They made a video for the harmonized BN and Bobby Shmurda 786 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,880 song WE. Don't have to bring this up, by 787 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,640 the way. We don't have. 788 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,280 We don't. Have no they mean the the What 789 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,440 an amazing song, bro. Oh fantastic, fantastic times. 790 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,120 Anyway, shout out to them. I mean listen. 791 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,760 All I'm going to say is the message is great. 792 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,040 Great message. Uh, yeah. 793 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,120 That's all I have to say about that now. 794 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,800 That's all you have to say. You've said a lot. 795 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,440 Actually, you've said a lot by not saying much alpha. 796 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,960 You said a lot by not saying much just just just a just a 797 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,800 side piece. We got a little bit of of of 798 00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,160 hate for our for our view. On Oh yeah Oh my God, Tanzania 799 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,280 hates this podcast, guys. Yeah. 800 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,200 This is or Tanzania. We're done. 801 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,920 This is, this is not, this is not going to be ever played in 802 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,640 Tanzania. But no, I mean so, so and not to 803 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,400 explain, because we don't need to explain ourselves, right? 804 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,920 First of all, it's just the opinions. 805 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,840 It's our opinions. And that's that verse was still 806 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,560 objectively not good. Yeah. 807 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,960 And we wasn't dissing Harmonize or anything. 808 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,240 We were really just waiting in on Bobby. 809 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:26,720 Schwartzman Yeah, I wasn't just remembered. 810 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200 I was in my tattoo the other day because I took my tattoos 811 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,480 because I'm cultured, right? I was in my tattoo and they 812 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,360 played the song. Now they played the full song, 813 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,040 but they played Harmonize's verse. 814 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:37,480 They played the intro. I'm like, all right, cool, 815 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,320 Harmonize this verse. I'm preparing to hear Doo Doo 816 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,200 Brown. I'm preparing to hear now. 817 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,000 Skipped him completely and jumped straight to what's his 818 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600 name's verse. You can't clap. 819 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,160 No, you can't clap for that. You can't. 820 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,720 I was actually, I was skipped. We don't need to work now. 821 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,520 They just played harmonized in the end. 822 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,240 Yeah, they got. Shout out, shout out to whoever 823 00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,600 made that mix, man. You know what you're doing. 824 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:03,320 You're a true music connoisseur. They don't want to hear Bobby 825 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,760 over here. They want to hear that verse. 826 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,440 They they know exactly what's going on. 827 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,080 But anyway, man, that's shout out to them. 828 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,360 We shouldn't listen. We're not hating on this. 829 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,640 Even me if if if I was making my own mixes, it would be the exact 830 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,920 same thing. Man, that. 831 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,800 Anyway. Years from now you should have 832 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,040 brought even. This is the Why did you just 833 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,480 brought it up? Now it sounds like we're haters. 834 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,480 That's. Tanzania. 835 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,280 Sounds like you don't have anything positive to say. 836 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,080 If you look at the comments section, man, we were like 837 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:30,000 really? Really. 838 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,440 I like my. 20 people. My TC people, I absolutely like, 839 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,760 You guys are doing, you guys are doing Christians out there, but 840 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,920 I love it. But listen, The funny thing is, 841 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,520 we weren't even dissing. We were dissing Bobby Schmurder, 842 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,920 which by the he absolutely deserves to be discussed like 843 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,960 that, were we? Dissing him? 844 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,880 No, we just said that. The OK not dissing to OK, Yeah, 845 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,200 we weren't dissing. I take back what I said, but we 846 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,560 like we were just pointing out that that verse felt like very 847 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,400 low effort. It wasn't good, man. 848 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,160 He just didn't do the. Video wouldn't help that either. 849 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,480 I'm sorry. No, it will. 850 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,560 The video is on 500K views in three days, so despite our 851 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,040 opinions, people are going to love it anyway. 852 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,360 So whatever. Yeah. 853 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,400 Anyway, new music. Sam, what did you listen to? 854 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,280 Music, new music. Music. 855 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,160 New music, new music, new music. Let me pull it up because I 856 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,440 don't remember all of it, offered Dua Lipa dropped. 857 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,600 That's who we're talking about. Let's go. 858 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,880 So it was interesting You you actually put me on to this. 859 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,120 So generation had dropped. You know the project that 860 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:35,560 they're working on with the the four ladies, Lucundo, Juanita, 861 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,040 Wakesho, Bakita. So they dropped a 5 project, 862 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,920 five song project with four songs. 863 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,720 One, I mean with five, sorry, five. 864 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:47,360 Of course A5 song project will have 5 songs. 865 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,640 Jeez, with four songs by each individual and then they have a 866 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,400 song that they're all on there together. 867 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:55,960 Did you get a chance to listen to? 868 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,760 It I didn't listen to the whole project, but I listened to the 869 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,760 song with how do you say her name? 870 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,960 Le kun Le Lucundo. Lucundo. 871 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,920 Yeah, I listened to that song and great, like, shout out to 872 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,600 it's Hendrix. OK. 873 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,120 Do you want him to cut that and use that as a stagner? 874 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,280 Actually, the question we should be asking Sam is why did you 875 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,800 have your own tag Sam? Yo, so the 5th, the 5th song, 876 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,720 the 5th, the 5th song, the 5th song on the project had all of 877 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:29,640 them together. And I think I'm just interested 878 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,600 because I'm interested to know how they sound what they sound 879 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,760 like together on a song. So that was like that's I think 880 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,920 this is the first time they might have done that. 881 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,360 I don't know if I'm wrong but that's interesting. 882 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,440 I'm. I'm just looking forward. 883 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,600 I'm really curious to see what Soul Generation is doing with 884 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,040 these guys. Yeah, we have our R&B song, 885 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,880 Stressed Iana Timing Up and Gay, the producer with a song called 886 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,960 The One. That was Dope, That. 887 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,200 Was shout out to Iana and Josh. Yeah, The other R&B song, Stress 888 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,080 and Jerry released a song called Patience with Dexter. 889 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,200 I think that's how you pronounce that. 890 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,760 It's Dexter. Yeah, not Dexter. 891 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,760 Shout out to Jerry in all cups. NJERI. 892 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,280 That's in Jerry on all social media platforms. 893 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,920 What are you? What are you doing? 894 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,920 Are you paid? Are you paid from moving along 895 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,480 swiftly? Stop. 896 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,560 You're being flagrant now. Just relax. 897 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,760 Calm down. With only the drama queen. 898 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,480 With only the drama queen. Don't be MDQ drama queen. 899 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,000 Yeah, MDQ. That's. 900 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,720 MDQ on also. She's been a all right. 901 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,200 I'm done. I'm done. 902 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,040 OK, Because you have. To share this money that you've 903 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,800 been paid to because I'm not seeing any of it. 904 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,040 All this pay you've been given to put people's socials. 905 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,600 So she was up there. So this is called she released a 906 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,920 song called consistency That's good. 907 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,640 I mean I've not I've really not heard a lot of Mudoni drama 908 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,600 Queen's music so this was interesting. 909 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,440 Who else dropped scam. OK now this this was 910 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,760 interesting. So so Mr. Seed and Scam 911 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,360 cardinality released a song called This year. 912 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,120 Now it was interesting to me because scam cardinality, we 913 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,840 know him as part of them. The work cardinality we know him 914 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,320 for his hard raps bro. He was full on loving and just 915 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,840 like soft on this one. It was really interesting to 916 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,120 listen to. I was, I was, I was. 917 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,040 I don't know if I was pleasantly surprised. 918 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,920 I was just surprised like it was cool like he was trying to get 919 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,560 into his dig into his pop bag. You know rappers always have to 920 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,200 get into their pop pop bag. All the greatest have done it. 921 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,440 So that was that was dope let me see. 922 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,080 Oh flyer releases a song called Too Young to Go. 923 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,760 I terribly enjoyed that one too. Yeah, Flyers. 924 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,960 Always his taste released in Fire music. 925 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,960 Let me see what else let me. See, I'm going to take this 926 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,400 chance to say Gabbana by cookie and my. 927 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,960 God, I should have started, produced. 928 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,160 By Alpha Mefona. Let's go. 929 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,240 Let me let me give you your flowers. 930 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,600 Very relaxed. Now you. 931 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,360 I've taken them. So hype, I've pulled them. 932 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,160 From them. So hype. 933 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,200 Yeah, I've approached all of them. 934 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,760 Yeah man, Shout out to you, Alpham. 935 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,440 You put it in work. You're putting me to shame. 936 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,320 I need to get on my I need. But don't worry, music is 937 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,080 coming, Music is coming. But man, that was fire. 938 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,400 That was fire. G is a farm on a beat run. 939 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,680 My guys, my guys streams up. Please guys I really need I 940 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,120 really need. Yeah, don't beg. 941 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,760 Why are you begging? I'm on my knees right now guys. 942 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,840 Please if you can spare some change. 943 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,760 Spare some if. You can spare some change 944 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,080 stream, please put it, stream it, put it on replay in the 945 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,560 night. So like when, you know, you just 946 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,920 put your phone on the bed stand and go to bed, like just put the 947 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,680 Gabbana on replay. Yeah, go the whole night 948 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,800 streaming farms. Let's start streaming farms for 949 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,840 affirms music. Please guys, let's do that. 950 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,920 Streaming farms in 10 to 10? Oh, that's the wave. 951 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,880 Yeah I mentioned two men then you can you can take it off from 952 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,680 there. Sabi we'll release Valentine's 953 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,680 Naoko solo I feel attack now that's kind of crazy Valente's 954 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,800 now got shouted Sabi for for for putting things into perspective 955 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,120 and St. evo release. I really like St. 956 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,000 Evo, man. He released the so-called Y Wahu 957 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:03,560 he's he's he's he's doing a lot in the Afro house scene like I 958 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,480 really like it. I'm I'm I'm I'm like clocking 959 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,120 his releases and I'm I'm I'm vibing men so you have a good 960 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,400 good good job man you're you're you've been releasing 961 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,000 consistently and I'm I'm here for it. 962 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,200 I'm here for it. I'm here for it. 963 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,200 AFA. I mean you've you've kind of got 964 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,160 you've you've kind of gone through everything that I 965 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,880 listened to. The only thing you haven't 966 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,560 mentioned was there was Save Save Man by Blocker Beats, 967 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:33,760 Boutros, Murro and Kivumbi King and yeah, that's all. 968 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,440 And then Sophie Anzhou released Karimu with Dondala and Irene. 969 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,120 I think that's how you pronounce it. 970 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,760 But yeah, Sam, I think in general the song that was really 971 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:53,520 impressive was Mazishi. Mazishi Boy, Black and Swami. 972 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,720 They buried, they buried. It was beat, man. 973 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,240 They put it. They put it 6. 974 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,680 Feet under deep. Into the under. 975 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,440 No it was really cool. It was it was it was dope. 976 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,200 I I I really appreciate like the just the rap like I think we 977 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,600 need more let me say we need more let me not just talk crazy 978 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,760 but then it's it's I let me just I'm personally really excited 979 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,600 when I hear like just rap like pure rap over sample and and 980 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,800 just be saying they really did Yeah man they mixed that English 981 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,280 or Swahili. It was it was cool it had energy 982 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,080 in it. They had those word play Yeah 983 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,840 yeah it was playful it was it was cool dog. 984 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,000 I really enjoyed it, So I think we should play, We should play 985 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,080 that for the people. This is Mazishi. 986 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,320 No, Sorry Mazishi by Killi, Hippy Boy, Black, and the Swami. 987 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,360 Make sure I could make sure. That's my new guess. 988 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:52,800 Let's see your opinion. In fact, yes. 989 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,800 Pause for a second. I was running out the wraps, 990 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,600 missing my torture. I've been running out the caps 991 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,240 where the bitches at. I've been ran out the map 992 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:14,200 because I suggest two things. You're either a piece of paper. 993 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,040 Or or. A piece of shit. 994 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,320 See, I'm. Lyrically, 995 00:51:51,240 --> 00:52:25,680 Revolution watch where you step Route 46 996 00:52:25,680 --> 00:53:31,160 This here's the address. That was Magici by Boy Black the 997 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:36,360 Swami and Kilihibi Fireman. Just, just just super dope. 998 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,920 Just rap music. It's a rap. 999 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,080 Yeah, shout out to them. Shout out to them, man, on a 1000 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,880 super obscure beat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK yeah, man, 1001 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,960 You know you have to. You have. 1002 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,240 To. But yeah, man. 1003 00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:52,840 Guys, thank you guys so much for listening, as always. 1004 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,080 That was. Yep. 1005 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,400 Oh my God. That was episode 64, man. 1006 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,440 So you're really, we're moving here, moving on up to the. 1007 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,760 Anyway, we're moving on to the 70s, man. 1008 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:12,320 So can't wait for that. But yeah, man, good episode 1009 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,280 always has. Something special, special 1010 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,840 planned out for you guys in the 70s? 1011 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,840 OK, we do. This is needs to be. 1012 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,040 I'm so excited about. No, we do have. 1013 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,360 We have so much special stuff. There you go. 1014 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,520 There you go. There you go. 1015 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,600 Listen, you guys can expect. You can expect innovation. 1016 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,680 You can expect excitement. You can expect just amazingly 1017 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,240 produced episodes. Now you're doing, now you're. 1018 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,440 Doing. But guys, thank you guys so 1019 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,280 much. As usual. 1020 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:53,640 You know where to find us. And yeah, that was episode 64. 1021 00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:58,240 I haven't said this in a while, but we started this podcast so 1022 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:00,800 that you guys can listen to way more Kenyan music. 1023 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,840 And just to kind of get the Kenyan industry talked about, 1024 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,480 you know, we want to have a digital record, you know, you 1025 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,520 that you can look at in 20 years and be like, Oh my God, what's 1026 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,960 happening in the Kenyan industry. 10 years ago you 1027 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,560 listened to this podcast and you cannot get like a gauge of 1028 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,560 what's happening. So. 1029 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,080 Yeah, man. So yeah, there's that. 1030 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,960 But like, as always, thank you and we shall catch you on 1031 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,800 episode 65 We Out. Yep. 1032 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,120 Out.